Love the uniqueness of this board and the innovative and high quality engineering of it here. I also happen to think I'd get a lot out of a southpaw configuration of the arrow cluster. Makes me think that there's a lot of room for southpaw TKLs; given how much I'm into 75s, that might end up being my favorite configuration. Anyway, spectacular review as usual. Love all the info you condense into such an easy to follow (and aesthetically pleasing) package.
Great review, nice to see something unique thats not in a larger form factor. Super clean transition at 3:49 as well. Great to see you messing with new angles and different styles of editing 🔥
With all the insanely meticulous design choices here, I feel like the V2 (if they decide to make it) will improve on the sound and flex of the board. What you get right now is very cool in it's own right, but the sound might leave some folks wanting. Great video, as in-depth as always.
i cant remember who it was, but they talked to the creator/designer of the board and they wanted to reduce case ping as much as possible. so they basically reduced the cavity under the pcb as much as possible. that being said it does result in a more muted sound signature beacuse of this. i feel like any revision for an r2 that would drastically change this would also change the footprint or overall size of the board.
Finally someone who actually mentions ISO options!!! it feels like most keyboard reviews seem to forget most of the people who will buy they keyboard in question and probably most of the people who will end up watching their videos about said keyboards are predominantly not from the US, even a lot of smaller manufacturers forget this too giving no ISO option but i guess is makes sense if you're only marketing to and shipping to the US! but the rest of the world (the UK, all of Europe, all of Asia, Australia etc) we all use ISO!
@@brotherfranciz i am half australian & i've always used ISO, whenever i've gone over there and basically been the tech support for my family they all have ISO, maybe different parts uses different layouts, but it is considered a part of asia and asia use ISO
Doing design work I actually use arrows on both left and right side of the board. Currently have Caps+WASD for left side. As you mentioned to avoid taking your hand off the mouse but also using the right side arrow cluster for anything needing a combo of buttons+arrow keys.
It is baffling that the board sounds that much better in southpaw, but we take those. I think an aluminum or pom plate in this could really help with getting the sound there, pc is often just too neutral to really slap for me. But either way, this board is pretty cool. Price is...high for me but at the very least its something unique. Seems worth if budget allows. Great video homie, love the new space. Lighting particularly on the sound test was absolutely flawless
If I hadn't committed to a Geonworks W1-AT last October this would be it for me. I love that functionality to flip it over and that thinner profile without the F keys
Clarifying point, VIA is not open source, it is closed with an approval process. VIAL is the ope source version however that has been developed by the community as a true open source option to VIA.
Hey, I think that you should 100% check out the Simpler60. It’s a pretty innovative board and definitely punches above its price point. It’s ready to shop from PrimeKB for $180-190. This board looks really awesome though and I would definitely love to see a budget board with this modular design.
I want this kind of reversible form factor in a TKL. Or just a friggin' lefty TKL. They kind of dumped the bed with omitting the F-row. I don't know why this is so popular to do, it's infuriating when otherwise great ideas are ruined by limited functionality that requires you to remove your right hand from the mouse. We need greater left hand functionality to catch up with the standard. I.E. board design to catch up with the times of modern use-cases. I had a 60% that wasn't annoying to use because I was able to reprogram the windows key to be the function key; and another with a split spacebar where one of the splits was function. It's just so much faster to be able to access that stuff with the hand that's almost always _already there_ haha
This keyboards design looks amazing! The sound is what will be driving most people away if I had to assume, but this one is looking like a buy from me!
I would have hoped that for that price point, there would have been more options to tweak typing feel out of the box. The Zoom 65 may not be an ambi-compatible layout, but having some flex cuts in a 1.2mm pcb seems like a no brainer above $200 right now. Then you can either leave foam and/or plates out for a slappy feel or stuff that trunk with foam for a stiffy.
Thanks for the review. For 500 bucks, shouldn't it be closer to perfect? You weren't super excited about typing feel and sound, plus the build is complex. How do you justify this price with the things you did like?
I’ve only heard good things about the TX stabs, but I’ve yet to see them in stock. If anyone has recommendations on where to get them or when they’ll be in stock at a particular vendor, I’m all ears. Thanks for the vid Brian! Really enjoyed your take on this!
they are easy to get. Minokeys still has stock including 1.2mm. Other vendors restocking soon. Kibou Hk has stock also. Also rumors that prevail are working on stabs too
@@Unknown-sh2mz unfortunately minokeys shipping to the US is kinda brutal (starts at $15), but it is great to see them in stock, thanks for sharing! FWIW, have checked stock at like 4 different sites multiple times over the last 6 months, and have never seen them in stock. That and having only one or two vendors with stock currently doesn’t necessarily align with my definition of easy to find.
I like the 60+10 form factor, but the strange mounting choices make it a pass for me. That and the screen, weight coating and brass just add extra cost that I'm not up to pay.
Damn I was super excited until I heard the price... question does it have a good warrantee? If the warrantee is lifetime the price is justified in my opinion. I have spent $150-$200 on keyboards where something burns out or stops working at about 1 1/2 years 'right outside the warranty period'..so if the warrantee is good might be an option for me
Custom Keyboard almost never have warranty. The people who make them aren't massive multi million dollar companies. Some are a single person and others are just a small group of people. Besides, PCB's very rarely stop working. The difference between a prebuilt keyboard breaking and a custom one is that our custom boards are made to be taken aparts and self-serviced. These boards also come with an option add extra parts such as PCB's. The real money lies in the case and weight. If you have never built a custom board I would stay away from this one. This is a pretty complicated board so if you concerned about the realibility of the product, there is a higher chance it would be user error before a manufacturing issue. That's my advice to you.
@@Prism_JTN I have 2 boards with burned out leds on them... maybe i am just bad luck with leds i dunno... no spills on either boards and multiple leds just stopped working on 2 separate boards after 1 1/2 years... so piece of mind if a led burned out i am just wondering if a free replacement board down the road is included in the price...granted I could resolder the leds but it's a pain with those tiny things with an iron. Editting my response... better question is their a custom shop out their that does warrantee their boards? Maybe??
@@yp-lo8op Sadly there is no such thing. The only two companies that could potentially do that is Keychron and Glorious. Bear in mind that per key RGB or ANY kind of RGB is extremely rare in the custom keyboard community. Is is pretty much only for those who don't know were each key is. Another big reason why there aren't many RGB boards is that ethusiasts, like myself, spend hundreds of dollars on keycaps and I dislike how per key RGB taints the color of the keys and even splashes to the side changing the Patone or RAL color that the original desginer painstackingly tried to perfect. I know because I have keycap designer friends. Also, there are a lot of opaque switches in the community which don't let much light through anyway. I am even going to put solid color switches on my Tenet70 when I get them. What I mean by all of this is first, don't get too deep into this hobby if RGB is very important or a neccecity for you and second, if you want complete replacement for a PCB due to a single LED burning out after a while. You can only replace PCB's if they come broken from factory. There are many that do so, however, many others have disclaimers in their pages saying that is wear is found on the PCB they will not replace it. Makes sense really. Imagine you made the Tenet70 and you sold 2000 units. You then buy 300 more for the extras sale and just in case some emergency happens. You ONLY have 2,300 units. You don't have the capacity to create a repair and replace system when it's just you and maybe 2-3 more people. There's just no gain for you otherwise. The hobby isn't big enough to make stuff like that happen. You will only maybe find stuff like that wil companies like Glorious or Keychron which are far more mainstream. It's a luxury hobby in the end.
@@Prism_JTN rgb is not an end all for me... when working after hours IT... I do use it sometimes with my monitor brightness turned way down to save the eyes... but honestly as bad of luck I have had with board mounted leds I am done with them... for someone who is dipping there toes into custom keyboards what is the best place to start for a 75%? I lubed my pre-built keyboard switches but feel custom hand made keycaps 'whixh i want' are a waste on a garbage pre-built. So looking at a good place to start... I can solder in switches. But would prefer drop ins to save time... so many different sites out their with different boards... decks... ect... no idea what is best and where to even start... to many options. I know the layout and switches I want but no idea on a form factor provider. Any site suggestions would help.
@@yp-lo8op The 75% form factor was introduced in late 2019 and properly took strength in 2020. Because of this, there aren't a plethora of 75% out there for the custom scene. I can totally recommend you the Keychron Q1 but only if you can properly do your research for modding that specific kit. Other than that specific kit, there really aren't any other good 75% kits our there in-stock. Pretty much a of the really nice 75%'s have been in GB or are going go be in GB. Examples are the Jelly Epoch, Gok 7V, Hope75, Bubble75, Aero75, Satisfaction75, E7-V2, Fuji75, among others. That's the state of 75%'s today. Other form factors have plenty more options.
This kb in the left side arrow setup is awesome to see 🫠🥰👍. I personally loved the first audio check as I prefer heavily muted sound in my kbs’. I feel while a pricier kb …. With the screen and option to be left or right arrow sided gives this design sone uniqueness and justification for its pricing. I’d love to get one of these, but I already have a few kb that I already love, own and use regularly 😇🤯💕
This is cool and all, I don't get the trend of tiny less functional KBs, I would like to see a custom full KB for us OGs out there who don't want to compromise and do Naruto hand signs for a simple function
Well, I will give an update on the software, it is horrible. Obinskit stopped working with the board so you have to use Hexacore Link and the monitoring basically sucks, as soon as you minimize the software and launch anything else, the monitoring will disable, when your computer goes to sleep and so does your keyboard with it, upon wake up the time in the oled will continue from the moment it went to sleep and the software will not update it until you restart the whole software. Not good enough for a board that costs over $500.
Love the uniqueness of this board and the innovative and high quality engineering of it here. I also happen to think I'd get a lot out of a southpaw configuration of the arrow cluster. Makes me think that there's a lot of room for southpaw TKLs; given how much I'm into 75s, that might end up being my favorite configuration.
Anyway, spectacular review as usual. Love all the info you condense into such an easy to follow (and aesthetically pleasing) package.
That black colorway is fire! It's such a unique piece that overshadows some of its weaknesses!
Great review, nice to see something unique thats not in a larger form factor. Super clean transition at 3:49 as well. Great to see you messing with new angles and different styles of editing 🔥
With all the insanely meticulous design choices here, I feel like the V2 (if they decide to make it) will improve on the sound and flex of the board. What you get right now is very cool in it's own right, but the sound might leave some folks wanting. Great video, as in-depth as always.
Keybored just released a video improving the sound. Basically swapped out the gaskets and did a tape mod
i cant remember who it was, but they talked to the creator/designer of the board and they wanted to reduce case ping as much as possible. so they basically reduced the cavity under the pcb as much as possible. that being said it does result in a more muted sound signature beacuse of this. i feel like any revision for an r2 that would drastically change this would also change the footprint or overall size of the board.
Finally someone who actually mentions ISO options!!! it feels like most keyboard reviews seem to forget most of the people who will buy they keyboard in question and probably most of the people who will end up watching their videos about said keyboards are predominantly not from the US, even a lot of smaller manufacturers forget this too giving no ISO option but i guess is makes sense if you're only marketing to and shipping to the US! but the rest of the world (the UK, all of Europe, all of Asia, Australia etc) we all use ISO!
Australia uses ANSI.
@@brotherfranciz i am half australian & i've always used ISO, whenever i've gone over there and basically been the tech support for my family they all have ISO, maybe different parts uses different layouts, but it is considered a part of asia and asia use ISO
Woah that’s super cool!
So thankful you did Oil Kings with this, as that was my plan for it as well.
That was an actually good transition to the sponsor, LTT should take note
Really great video and board review!
I just really miss you saying "You ready? LETSGOOO" every time I love screaming it with you haha keep it up!
always look forward to your videos despite not having a board myself!! thank u :)
Great Video my friend 🤙🏽
Loving the BBW & Alchemy screw tray. Man’s about the culture
Doing design work I actually use arrows on both left and right side of the board. Currently have Caps+WASD for left side. As you mentioned to avoid taking your hand off the mouse but also using the right side arrow cluster for anything needing a combo of buttons+arrow keys.
sunlight lighting looks clean 👌
Thanks! Nice to have some natural light back in the space
Looks sick!!
I heard they are going to add another layer of poron foam between the plate and pcb for the finally product
It is baffling that the board sounds that much better in southpaw, but we take those. I think an aluminum or pom plate in this could really help with getting the sound there, pc is often just too neutral to really slap for me. But either way, this board is pretty cool. Price is...high for me but at the very least its something unique. Seems worth if budget allows.
Great video homie, love the new space. Lighting particularly on the sound test was absolutely flawless
i dunno, the sound is not for me, but i'm happy more southpaw boards are out there!
If I hadn't committed to a Geonworks W1-AT last October this would be it for me. I love that functionality to flip it over and that thinner profile without the F keys
Me: most keyboards should really be hitting $500+ at all.
Tenet 70: hold my beer.
Clarifying point, VIA is not open source, it is closed with an approval process. VIAL is the ope source version however that has been developed by the community as a true open source option to VIA.
Hey, I think that you should 100% check out the Simpler60. It’s a pretty innovative board and definitely punches above its price point. It’s ready to shop from PrimeKB for $180-190. This board looks really awesome though and I would definitely love to see a budget board with this modular design.
Simpler60 is just a modern Tofu. At $180, you can get a QK65 (r2) shipped, which is a way better board
3:18 Missed opportunity to do an Amogus or Rick Roll.
Have you seen the akko acr pro 75? I'm deciding on buying it, and it looks pretty good!
I like that you boop the snoot to change the OLED function. Shame that the sound is so poor.
you planning on doing a take on the Steelseries Arctis Nova Pro Wireless?
You should get your hands on the china gb stuff. There really is lot of interesting stuff coming out and some will hit the international scene later.
I want this kind of reversible form factor in a TKL. Or just a friggin' lefty TKL. They kind of dumped the bed with omitting the F-row. I don't know why this is so popular to do, it's infuriating when otherwise great ideas are ruined by limited functionality that requires you to remove your right hand from the mouse. We need greater left hand functionality to catch up with the standard. I.E. board design to catch up with the times of modern use-cases. I had a 60% that wasn't annoying to use because I was able to reprogram the windows key to be the function key; and another with a split spacebar where one of the splits was function. It's just so much faster to be able to access that stuff with the hand that's almost always _already there_ haha
Absolutely amazing
This keyboards design looks amazing!
The sound is what will be driving most people away if I had to assume, but this one is looking like a buy from me!
Keybored had some good mods for the sound including different sized gaskets.
can u buy one for me too my family is homeless
Damn, it sounds amazing ^_^
I missed this one... looks like the GN has ended. Damn this is JUST was I was looking for
Man I'm normally a 75% guy because I love the look of the F row but this is so good
awesome video! can i please get a link to your sound paneling in the background?
I would have hoped that for that price point, there would have been more options to tweak typing feel out of the box. The Zoom 65 may not be an ambi-compatible layout, but having some flex cuts in a 1.2mm pcb seems like a no brainer above $200 right now. Then you can either leave foam and/or plates out for a slappy feel or stuff that trunk with foam for a stiffy.
Thanks for the review. For 500 bucks, shouldn't it be closer to perfect? You weren't super excited about typing feel and sound, plus the build is complex. How do you justify this price with the things you did like?
My man hanging onto the PNW with that Patagonia
The hell? you
e right, the left-hand config did sound a lot better
"The look of this BBW is what got my attention for sure." 😍
I’ve only heard good things about the TX stabs, but I’ve yet to see them in stock. If anyone has recommendations on where to get them or when they’ll be in stock at a particular vendor, I’m all ears. Thanks for the vid Brian! Really enjoyed your take on this!
they are easy to get. Minokeys still has stock including 1.2mm. Other vendors restocking soon. Kibou Hk has stock also. Also rumors that prevail are working on stabs too
@@Unknown-sh2mz unfortunately minokeys shipping to the US is kinda brutal (starts at $15), but it is great to see them in stock, thanks for sharing! FWIW, have checked stock at like 4 different sites multiple times over the last 6 months, and have never seen them in stock. That and having only one or two vendors with stock currently doesn’t necessarily align with my definition of easy to find.
I like the 60+10 form factor, but the strange mounting choices make it a pass for me.
That and the screen, weight coating and brass just add extra cost that I'm not up to pay.
hey please also review the Ajazz AC067
Holy christ dats a lot of gold
Damn did you buy the Focal Clear MG in addition to getting to keep the standard Clear?
Filmed that a few days back
I can’t fucking wait
Those are torx not hex, right?
Damn I was super excited until I heard the price... question does it have a good warrantee? If the warrantee is lifetime the price is justified in my opinion. I have spent $150-$200 on keyboards where something burns out or stops working at about 1 1/2 years 'right outside the warranty period'..so if the warrantee is good might be an option for me
Custom Keyboard almost never have warranty. The people who make them aren't massive multi million dollar companies. Some are a single person and others are just a small group of people. Besides, PCB's very rarely stop working. The difference between a prebuilt keyboard breaking and a custom one is that our custom boards are made to be taken aparts and self-serviced. These boards also come with an option add extra parts such as PCB's. The real money lies in the case and weight.
If you have never built a custom board I would stay away from this one. This is a pretty complicated board so if you concerned about the realibility of the product, there is a higher chance it would be user error before a manufacturing issue.
That's my advice to you.
@@Prism_JTN I have 2 boards with burned out leds on them... maybe i am just bad luck with leds i dunno... no spills on either boards and multiple leds just stopped working on 2 separate boards after 1 1/2 years... so piece of mind if a led burned out i am just wondering if a free replacement board down the road is included in the price...granted I could resolder the leds but it's a pain with those tiny things with an iron. Editting my response... better question is their a custom shop out their that does warrantee their boards? Maybe??
@@yp-lo8op Sadly there is no such thing. The only two companies that could potentially do that is Keychron and Glorious.
Bear in mind that per key RGB or ANY kind of RGB is extremely rare in the custom keyboard community. Is is pretty much only for those who don't know were each key is. Another big reason why there aren't many RGB boards is that ethusiasts, like myself, spend hundreds of dollars on keycaps and I dislike how per key RGB taints the color of the keys and even splashes to the side changing the Patone or RAL color that the original desginer painstackingly tried to perfect. I know because I have keycap designer friends. Also, there are a lot of opaque switches in the community which don't let much light through anyway. I am even going to put solid color switches on my Tenet70 when I get them.
What I mean by all of this is first, don't get too deep into this hobby if RGB is very important or a neccecity for you and second, if you want complete replacement for a PCB due to a single LED burning out after a while. You can only replace PCB's if they come broken from factory. There are many that do so, however, many others have disclaimers in their pages saying that is wear is found on the PCB they will not replace it.
Makes sense really. Imagine you made the Tenet70 and you sold 2000 units. You then buy 300 more for the extras sale and just in case some emergency happens. You ONLY have 2,300 units. You don't have the capacity to create a repair and replace system when it's just you and maybe 2-3 more people. There's just no gain for you otherwise. The hobby isn't big enough to make stuff like that happen. You will only maybe find stuff like that wil companies like Glorious or Keychron which are far more mainstream.
It's a luxury hobby in the end.
@@Prism_JTN rgb is not an end all for me... when working after hours IT... I do use it sometimes with my monitor brightness turned way down to save the eyes... but honestly as bad of luck I have had with board mounted leds I am done with them... for someone who is dipping there toes into custom keyboards what is the best place to start for a 75%? I lubed my pre-built keyboard switches but feel custom hand made keycaps 'whixh i want' are a waste on a garbage pre-built. So looking at a good place to start... I can solder in switches. But would prefer drop ins to save time... so many different sites out their with different boards... decks... ect... no idea what is best and where to even start... to many options. I know the layout and switches I want but no idea on a form factor provider. Any site suggestions would help.
@@yp-lo8op The 75% form factor was introduced in late 2019 and properly took strength in 2020. Because of this, there aren't a plethora of 75% out there for the custom scene. I can totally recommend you the Keychron Q1 but only if you can properly do your research for modding that specific kit. Other than that specific kit, there really aren't any other good 75% kits our there in-stock. Pretty much a of the really nice 75%'s have been in GB or are going go be in GB. Examples are the Jelly Epoch, Gok 7V, Hope75, Bubble75, Aero75, Satisfaction75, E7-V2, Fuji75, among others.
That's the state of 75%'s today. Other form factors have plenty more options.
mousepad ?
Seeing this makes me wonder what the changes finalmouse will make to the keyboard game
None by going by what they have done for the mouse game
Time for ultra lightweight magnesium keyboards with holes
This kb in the left side arrow setup is awesome to see 🫠🥰👍. I personally loved the first audio check as I prefer heavily muted sound in my kbs’. I feel while a pricier kb …. With the screen and option to be left or right arrow sided gives this design sone uniqueness and justification for its pricing. I’d love to get one of these, but I already have a few kb that I already love, own and use regularly 😇🤯💕
So... we need to use the legendary build guide once again
the more keyboard vids the wilder the artisans are getting
This is cool and all, I don't get the trend of tiny less functional KBs, I would like to see a custom full KB for us OGs out there who don't want to compromise and do Naruto hand signs for a simple function
😭
Thanks!..
I just new that at some point something was going to be “brilliant” about the board.
Its morbin time
check out Keybored's mod to this board!
Reppin the PNW with the Patagonia 😎
Im confused why no one is calling this an FRL TKL
i want it
this is my perfect keyboard. too bad im broke
it looks like every other keyboard
Well, I will give an update on the software, it is horrible. Obinskit stopped working with the board so you have to use Hexacore Link and the monitoring basically sucks, as soon as you minimize the software and launch anything else, the monitoring will disable, when your computer goes to sleep and so does your keyboard with it, upon wake up the time in the oled will continue from the moment it went to sleep and the software will not update it until you restart the whole software. Not good enough for a board that costs over $500.
It seems like a very quiet board, something for the streamers and zoomers out there, or for those who have a light sleeping spouse, lol
huh???
This board makes me stiff as a.... board
Looks cool, not very practical... might as well go for a TKL, or a southpaw at that point.
$850? hahahahahhahahahhahahahahah
Too expensive
I am sorry
"GIF"?! unsubscribing! 🤣
Anyone that spends that much on a board with so much functionality stripped out of it just looks like a total tech novice or worse, a Mac user.