Pokemon Gimmick #21: Tera Shedinja
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- Опубліковано 9 чер 2024
- Shedinja can Terastallize to any type it likes with the new mechanic introduced in Pokemon Scarlet and Violet. Find out what kind of team lets Shedinja thrive in National Dex Anything Goes!
Tera Shedinja Teams - pokepast.es/d7837c02fc09bb39
Honorable Mentions - pokepast.es/e99b1dfbe5b29844
Counters - pokepast.es/ce0faf6a99d6e2bb
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Special Thanks:
TheUKNutter
Enforcer got buffed
Morgan
Murman
Lumii
Siernos
Music by GlitchxCity - / @glitchxcity
Penny Battle Theme (Remix) - Pokémon Scarlet and Violet
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Nemona Battle Theme (Remix) - Pokémon Scarlet and Violet
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Dialga and Palkia Origin Form (Remix) - Pokémon Legends: Arceus
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Timestamps:
0:00 Intro
0:32 Basic Version
1:21 Threat List
2:14 Advanced Version
2:25 Shedinja
3:55 Normal
4:22 Electric
4:36 Balloon
4:56 Poison
5:32 Ground
5:55 Water
6:18 Fairy
6:41 Cyclizar
8:38 Ho-Oh
9:26 Mega Gengar
10:27 Gothitelle
11:27 Tyranitar
12:44 Team Synergy
14:43 VS Revive Cats
15:25 Primal Groudon
16:31 Trubbish
16:51 Meowstic
17:11 Weezing-Galar
17:37 Comfey
18:11 Desc.
18:19 Battles
29:48 Counterplay
33:33 Conclusions
34:11 Special Thanks
34:16 Outro - Ігри
Bonus Replays!
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Normal Shedinja vs Calyrex-Shadow (35 turns)
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Normal Shedinja vs Zacian-Crowned (43 turns)
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Normal Shedinja and Gothitelle vs Necrozma-Dusk-Mane (45 turns)
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Normal Shedinja and Gothitelle vs Necrozma-DM, Marshadow, Reshiram (115 turns)
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Normal Shedinja vs Stall (269 turns)
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Water Shedinja vs Water Ho-Oh (43 turns)
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Fairy Shedinja and Primal Groudon vs Ultra Necrozma and Kyurem-B (26 turns)
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Fairy Shedinja vs Yveltal and Mega Rayquaza (20 turns)
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Fairy Shedinja and Mega Gengar vs Miraidon and Arceus (28 turns)
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Fairy Shedinja and Comfey vs Reshiram (46 turns)
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Fairy Shedinja vs Necrozma-Dusk-Mane (34 turns)
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Fairs Shedinja vs Necrozma-DM and Calyrex-S (39 turns)
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Fairy Shedinja vs Tera Dark Necrozma-DM (77 turns)
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Fairy Shedinja vs Smeargle and Calyrex-S (95 turns)
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Fairy Shedinja vs Cyclizar, Shedinja, and Calyrex-S (39 turns)
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Fairy Shedinja and Gothitelle vs Tyranitar (190 turns)
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Fairy Shedinja vs Ground Shedinja 1 (84 turns)
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Fairy Shedinja vs Ground Shedinja 2 (144 turns)
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Ground Shedinja vs Fairy Shedinja (45 turns)
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Ground Shedinja vs double-crit Ultra Necrozma (72 turns)
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Ground Shedinja vs Calyrex-S and Ultra Necrozma (118 turns)
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Non-Tera Shedinja vs Necrozma-Dusk-Mane (34 turns)
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Non-Tera Shedinja vs Miraidon (16 turns)
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Mega Gengar, Gothitelle, and Tyranitar vs Necrozma-Dusk-Mane (29 turns)
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Mega Gengar vs Trick Room Machamps (19 turns)
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Mega Gengar vs Trick Room Melmetal + Machamp (12 turns)
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Tyranitar ties Revive Cats (109 turns)
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Comfey vs Revive Cats 1 (75 turns)
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Comfey vs Revive Cats 2 (92 turns)
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Weezing-Galar vs Revive Cats (33 turns)
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Trubbish vs Revive Cats (231 turns)
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Trubbish is simply too overwhelming (12 turns)
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Basic Version vs Baton Pass (50 turns)
Tera Shedinja Teams - pokepast.es/d7837c02fc09bb39
Honorable Mentions - pokepast.es/e99b1dfbe5b29844
Counters - pokepast.es/ce0faf6a99d6e2bb
That Trubbish went craaaazy.
When your gimmick is so good that you can write in the top ten of the ladder with account names😄
wait wtf thats so insans
Its with inspect element
@@kyng8156it’s actually not, he showed battles with the accounts in the video, and if you played during that time like i did, you saw those accounts in battles and on the ladder
@@alexr3912 damn i see i wasn't top ladder for gen 9 nat dex at the time
its infinitely funny for me how the way you display heavy duty boots makes it look like the mons are wearing big ol shoes
I greatly appreciate how all the items have been intentionally positioned - boots at the mon's feet, scarf worn around their neck, leftovers held in their hand for eating, and mega stone... being there.
@@Em0srawk the life orb inside the comfey was really neat
I saw the thumbnail and thought “ha, that’s cute, he must’ve edited the text in the leaderboard to make the three accounts above him look like they were promoting his team”
…THEN I SAW YOUR ACCOUNT NAMES DURING THE GAMES YOU INCLUDED.
What a mad lad
Not sure what's more evil, this or revive cats
Definitely yes
Probably revive cats
Why not both?
I think I’ve found an evil way to combine them
Cats are more evil this has like 20 counters
Definitely assist spam, atleast Tera shedinja is a quick and painless loss, losing a 200 turn game hurts alot.
Who wins?
A highly battle tested squad of mythical beings, titanic beasts, and literal gods?
Or a floating piece of dead cicada skin (and its motorcycle)?
Sandstorm being a recommended move on Shedinja. What a world.
natdex ag shifted to be more like balanced hackmons than ubers
This is the fantastic team building I always eagerly wait from Elo Bandit.
I love how much detail you put into these. Super entertaining.
My man didn't have to go so hard with the life orb comfey animation
When people asked for a viable shedinja the monkey paw curled so harc
11:55 Nice little reference there. Had me laughing 😂
i love how they all hold the items, especially comfey
Love how you position the boots like they’re wearing them lmaooo
The AG mons all being Megas and Legendaries with insane statlines and then there's just... Shedinja, is SO funny.
Wonder Guard is one hell of a drug.
Just saw the description. Thanks for putting my friend Nutter in the description, I just let him know and he’s over the moon! 😁😁😁
I'm honestly curious how in the world does Snow and Hail fit into NatDex AG? considering in gen 9 snow replaced hail, does Snow warning cause snow? Or hail in Natdex AG?
Snow Warning causes snow, only the move Hail causes hail.
@@xIcyStarzz No, in gen 9 Snow completely replaced hail so either work for Slush Rush(I don't see why it wouldn't)
@Da Yandere afaik, slush rush users arent in Scarlet and Violet, so it's not 100% clear if the ability procs in snow too.
That said, wonder if snow *and* hail have synergy together. Probably not, but something to think about
@@BubbyBoy beartic has slush rush and it works with snow
@@BubbyBoy cetitan has slush rush
Ttar (handshake) excadrill
“You son of a bitch”
This is the funniest freaking thing
Love how detailed all these videos are, keep up the great work! ♥️
This brings back memories, lovin the content, keep it up bro!
That thumbnail is legendary.
cant believe that my previous comment has been used to help optimize such a devious strategy. love the content, keep it up!
what have you done
Love this video format and editing!!
i was expecting shedninja to be cut due to wonder guard shenanigans with tera. glad to see i was right
So you’re why the ag ladder SUCKS right now
I’m glad to see you posting gimmicks again ☺️
my man!! Im so happy you're back. I somehow das didn't get the memo (thx yt), despite being subscribed
this is some really high-quality content good stuff
Comefy was a good shout for dealing with cats. And you're the only one I came across that night using comedy. Wp
Adding rocks to Tyranitar is actually beneficial against revive cats, so it is an alternative to thunder wave/toxic
This reminds me of my generation 7 balanced hackmons team that played similarly to this team. It used spite to try and remove all the moves that could hit sturdy Shedninja, to a point where Shedninja would sit there and remove the rest of the moves of the opponent’s team. After the shedninja ban in gen 8 I’ve been looking for a way to get that kind of gameplay back and this gimmick definitely feels like this could be that.
Anything goes
*NO DYNAMAX*
...anything goes
Dyna was replaced with Tera
It's such a shame that i watched this video to see what it's like using Shedinja in Gen 9 and try out some strategies, (Because it's my favourite pokémon.) just for the people in the top ladder in National Dex & Admins to remove the gamemode from being public and make it challenge only. :( Good video though it's very informative.
Hey Bandit, I'm still a bit confused on why this is better then tera elec shedinja + air balloon, it seems as if they still die to the same counters, yeah heavy duty boots are important, but can't you just defog?
Air Balloon Shedinja has trouble playing against Rocks plus phasing. A clever opponent will remove a couple of Shedinja's allies if possible to increase the odds of Shedinja being pulled out by Roar or Whirlwind. Then they set Rocks late game and click Roar or Whirl as the Defogger switches in, fishing for Shedinja.
Other than the rocks + phasing weakness, Balloon Shedinja requires an additional Defogger such as Comfey, Weezing-G, or Arceus instead of Tyranitar, which inevitably weakens your Calyrex-Shadow matchup.
Love the Blissey video call back
Look ma, I'm in an EloBandit video!
I love this so much
No guard fissure scarf machamp is nuts unless they have flying type 😂
Cool, i was playing a stall vertion of this gimmick, with mega sableye, suggy and protect in shedinja. And a protective pads sd extreme speed terra ghost arceus for the revival cats
If Shedinja existed in SV it definitely wouldn't have been able to Tera
Nothing can dynamax in SV
*Terrastylise
@@polygondeath2361 looool you knew what I meant
Getting flashbacks to Wonder Trio
Hope Nincada be in the DLC for SV
Nobody else does
I think game freak understands the beast they've created and plan to never unleash it
I like how you edited it to look like the mons with heavy duty boots where wearing them.
Bring back the littleroot town intro!!!
Ah yes more gimmicks evolite golbat has a great matchup against.
wait i just realise that infiltrator mons with switcheroo/trick (eg serviper or chandelure, meowstic) can beat this shedninja by giving it a black sludge. It kills all sets except tera poison, but an eq, hp ground or psychic if it teras during the first turn. And even if the shedninja switches, its now weak to hazards, and since most HDB shedninja teams dont have hazard clearing options, it is now vulnerable to rocks/spikes
32:50 Infiltrators
Included in the Counters paste - pokepast.es/ce0faf6a99d6e2bb
Air balloon electric Shedinja counters: Thousand arrows
Stealth rock X16
Wouldn't moldbreak and reskins work to?
@@brutalnobody5240 yes
NatDex AG is truly one of the formats of all time
Elo what is your opinion on Natdex AG no longer having a ladder?
Does anyone remember where the thunder wave joke was first made?
Absolute Blissey
@@EloBandit thanks
Have you considered using zoroark posing as shedninja with this for added psychic damage to your opponents?
i also went for top 1 in nat ag gen 9 with this last month with this lienup : shed electric, mega medi, arceus water,oh ho, flutter mane, and ofc cyclizar
imo my team was better at killing the weather setters
I wonder if Tera normal shedinja with trick or treat gourgeist is viable (in doubles)
what an intro
Oh hey we both run the same Shedinja set lmao
Ok but why is the music so low quality in the battles lol
well this tier seems terrifying
Elo bandit my beloved
Shedinja wearing a boots omg
how do you play on national dex AG?
Isnt ash greninja unavalible in nationa dex ag gen 9.
Battle bond was changed so you cant get it anymore.
No more AshGren, just +1 all stats Battle Bond Greninja
@@EloBandit so its not nat dex ag cuz 1 mon isnt useble anymore.
Are hail and snow both seperate in ND?
Yes. The move Hail summons hail, everything else calls down snow.
how does he wear boots
To beat cats could you just use rocks on ttar over thunder wave? I could be wrong but that was just my first thought
Rocks don't put on quite enough pressure compared to three layers of spikes
@@EloBandit right, but you can compress team slots that way, still having access to pursuit trapping while being able to actually hurt cats by switching indefinitely
Now I know why Shedinja is not going to be in SV.
Why Shedinja, A Pokemon Dissertation by Elo Bandit
How to counter this Strat: when you see the cyclizar use a fire dark rock ghost or flying move so air balloon pops immediately and you can hit ground moves now!
The cyclizar is most likely scarf and max speed so you won’t outspeed so just kill the shedninja with its weaknesses
Talonflame easily counters this for gale wing priority
Because u can kill the shedninja and then just use a status move
And hazards like sandstorm should work
Normal tera Shedinja is hilarious. I love putting cyclizar on the same team just to make people think it's going to be the generic set.
AG doesn’t allow Dynamax. Now THAT’s funny.
I think it is safe to say that shedinja wont return in gen 9 as dlc.
Wait why Trubbish over Garbodor though
Garbodor loses Sticky Hold and gains Weak Armor. Need Sticky Hold to prevent Trick.
@@EloBandit ahh gotcha
love the trubbish set.
I really dont see what this team is supposed to do against a singular ttar that knows taunt
Ladies and gentlemen, this is why nincada was cut from SV
Couldn't Oinkologne also break this strategy with its ability?
No, you have to make contact for lingering aroma to trigger
@@user-iz2ik3gh2n are you sure wonderguard prevents contact? It's not cited on the wiki
@@tsawy6 Wonder guard prevents contact defensively (all attacks into an immunity do not make contact) Wonder guard doesn't prevent contact offensively, but the set is chosen to not have any contact moves to avoid losing to rocky helmet.
Edit to add: the line that covers this is under "contact" in Bulbapedia.
"If a Pokémon is immune to a move, the move will not make contact with the Pokémon."
@@user-iz2ik3gh2n good to know
wanted to add mold breaker doesn't infact ignore wonder guard, but Teravolt turboblaze aka legends abilities do pokemon supports racism confirmed kek
Mold Breaker does still ignore wonder guard.
How to Kill a Metagame
How do you access national dex AG shedinja is illegal there
Nothing is illegal in Anything Goes! Shedinja is banned from Ubers, though.
Pokemon Showdown allows you to create a new gen 9 national dex ag team.
Does wonder guard ignore Roar?
Nope, phasing moves are great vs Shedinja.
Tera was clearly not made with Shedinja in mind
PS: AG is hell lol
You forgot something:
Any Pokémon who can learn Rock Blast, or any Pokémon who has Mold breaker.
If a Pokémon uses Rock Blast turn one, it can kill if it hits twice.
have you watched the entire video?
He lists mold breaker users as potential checks to shedinja
@@mangosteak Whoops, I must’ve zoned out midway through the video, thanks for telling me, though.
Perishing song: pathetic
Sandstorm?
31:46
Ultra Necrozma and Haxourus:L
Haxorus is mostly outclassed by Kyurem Black, but they all get trapped by Gothitelle.
Why does everyone say “turr-RAST-allize” instead of “tera-stallize”?
American accent.
U mean ter ass talize
@@Benjy52 no, I’m American too, I mean they’re moving the emphasis to the second syllable instead of keeping it on the first
I'm surprised shedinja wasn't banned on release lol
Its ag
@@vvvvvv66666 fair point, although they evidently don't allow megas to terra even in ag and that's way less broken than terra shedinja
Megas not being able to tera is less a balancing thing and more just based on the fact that Mega Rayquaza can't use Z-Moves, so it can be assumed that gimmicks couldn't overlap if they all existed in the same game.
@@hacatu why would they allow megas to tera it already megad
I think it might've been banned from Natdex OU although don't quote me on that
Do you have friends
:(
Photon geyser
Watch the full video.
He explains the checks to shedinja in the end.
+his entire team is built around removing necrozma, solgaleo, lunala and the likes
People really scared to run tar
Also is it really hail not snow in ND?
@@DkKobaADV its both. Snow warning is snow, Hail is hail.
tar shot? why?
@@Pao-vo8mf tar kills non tera ground shedinja on switch in
People so often forget that any form of passive damage takes out Shedinja instantly since it only has 1 HP.
yea thats why they use cyclizar
Did you watch the video??
@@othamneil8958 Ah, the substitute. I didn't think about that. But it's still not perfect. It still needs help and careful play.
@@JanusHoW It's not really meant to be a perfect team. It has flaws. That's true of every team. Careful play is the whole point of competitive pokemon battling
I hate this so much
Frist
Totally original
It's not about using Shedinja first, its about using Shedinja well.
@@EloBandit that's a nice consolation!
Battles would be freaking insane if Game Freak actually made it possible to use every mechanic in one battle.
One Tera
One Mega
One Z Move
One Dyna/Giga
The possibilities of team building would be endless.
Tera z giga mega rectal destruction
i want this shit gone from AG because its so absolutely fucking annoying and requires no thinking while needing so many specific pokemon
too bad there are no rules in ANYTHING GOES.
maybe play a diffrent tier
"No thinking". My dude, you are watching a 30 minute explanation about it
Don't play AG if you don't want to play against cheese strategies, it's kind of in the nature of the tier
Don't be teaching people how to beat revive cats. They just need to get good that's all
Isn't learning/researching how to beat them... how you "get good"?
@@athath2010 people should figure it out for themselves if they are smart enough
@@PreciousLuna1988 Why figure it out if the info is already available, the heck?
@@blobfish1649 why teach people how to beat revive cats
Looks like someone uses the revive cat strategy 😂
I'm so pissed I was subbed to you and for some reason now I'm not and I've missed out on a bunch of vids
youtube automatically subbed me to channels posting elon musk shit so yeah...
@@Pao-vo8mf That happened to me, turns out one of the channels I was subscribed to was hacked so that's probably what happened to one of the channels you watch
I hate Shedinja abusers 🫥🫥🫥 it is literally so braindead op and unfun
Play a different format then? This is literally a meme tier lol
Run counters, thats how the game works