Who was REALLY behind the downfall of Jim Morrison? Sunset Strip and “WORST Influence on His Life”
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- Опубліковано 2 бер 2024
- Imagine a shy, bookish Jim Morrison with so much talent and a promising future ahead. An incredible mind asking thought provoking questions of himself and the world around him. He is on a burning path exploding like a supernova. But as his star is burning bright he quickly begins to deteriorate. It doesn’t take much for one person to ruin it for everyone they say. And there are lots of theories when it comes to Jim Morrison. We will hear theories from a few who knew Jim best. And we will hear from the man himself.
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The most amazing thing about Jim is that here we are fifty years later and we’re still fascinated by him.
Ask Eric burdon?...😄
That was Jim’s entire objective.
He had a fascinating mind.
Spot on
You know you're on a bad road when (a not-yet-sober) Alice Cooper is worried about you drinking too much.
Very true
Excellent point! Thank-you!
Alice Cooper didn't drink or do drugs. He wouldn't let his band come to the gig messed up, either.
@@russshaber8071 : After he got clean and sober in around 1983.
@cindyspowart555 When I knew him in Michigan, late '60s - early '70s, he did not drink or do drugs. Vince was driven to succeed. He was very professional.
In Paris when Jim overdosed, Pam freaked out not wanting to call the Fire department and not able to speak French, she called her Friends who came too late and found Jim dead. They later put him in the Tub as if he dead of natural causes. Lesson, don't hang out with Junkies.
👍 Amen
"Jim Morrison was never seen dead." - Ray Manzarek
@@sr2291Not seen dead by Ray,, does anyone REALLY think the son of a vice admiral could somehow disappear in some weird plot? Supposedly an EMPTY coffin was buried in that famous French cemetery but the body was turned over to THREE STAR admiral Morrison and he's in a family plot somewhere...
@@micnorton9487 I never said that. But no one legally identified that he was deceased.
@@sr2291 Pam saw Jim dead+ other drug users.
What destroyed Jim Morrison was his addiction to alcohol. He was already a full-blown drunk when the Doors' debut album was released. By the time "The Soft Parade" was recorded,
Morrison's drinking had reached ruinous levels of self-destruction. It was only a matter of time before his short chaotic life was shut down forever.
What a shame. "Strange Days" remains a stone-cold classic. It was Jim's personal favourite album.
My favorite, too!
@@MaureenDeVries-wd9mh Jim was at the very peak of his powers, before fame and alcohol overwhelmed him.
The album’s relative commercial failure was the trigger point for his tragic decline.
Great songs too he died early.alcohol and drugs together is a bad combination. Tragedy for anyone to die so young
Jim Morrison was behind his downfall.
It was also the times.
@@l.w.paradis2108tell it to Seattle in the 90s,it used to be the person,I Hate to say
Agreed
Definitely.
Yes
I'm guessing Jim was behind his own downfall. But before he fell, he gave us some pretty amazing work.
All of us are somewhat responsible for our own downfall. All have sinned. But people are only responsible to the degree they are responsible. There are lots of extenuating circumstances. One person's rent money is stolen, and they have a hard time making the rent. They weren't careless with their rent money: someone just stole it. Their responsibility is not as great as someone who just spent their rent money on luxury things. Someone who gets an injury that causes chronic pain will have a worse risk of opiate addiction than someone with no injury. That is not their fault. So it is dishonest to say that they are responsible for 100% of their problems.
@@lindajohnson4204 Hmm. I tend to disagree. In this life, you tend to get what you give. What you may be seeing is a small portion of the overall story.
@@gwynnielsen5081 Lots of people don't get what they give in this life. The haves love to say that, to torment, discredit and dismiss the have nots. It does not explain why so many thieves have so much. It appeals to the cruel and self-righteous, who love to condemn and crush people when they are down. It does not explain why the sun shines and the rain falls on the righteous and the unrighteous alike.
@@gwynnielsen5081 I think that in Jim's case, only a small portion of the truth is shown, but what isn't shown would explain a lot of the hard to explain things, and about now, someone always chimes in to say (loudly) that it's just another example of how ridiculous, and always 100% wrong, Jim was. Look at his mysterious weight gain in the last years of the 60s, which is held out as an example of how ridiculous he was. But he already was on the receiving end of threats, etc, when the Manson family killings happened. Do people realize that when we read that Hollywood people were feeling threatened because of the Manson killings, Jim knew at least one of the people killed, and possibly more? Because of his interest in film, projects he had worked on, etc, he is fairly likely to have known Sharon Tate, but he definitely knew her ex-boyfriend, Jay (I can't remember the last name), who gave him that famous haircut. This is the kind of guy Jim would have liked a lot, and probably considered a friend. There is a really good documentary about him on UA-cam, and he seems like a great guy, and definitely someone Jim would have liked. He was staying with her and her friends to protect her while she was pregnant, while Polanski was off shooting a movie. If you add to the horror of that, the threats Jim was already undergoing (things like how easy it would be for a sniper to shoot him, especially from a crowded stadium), and there's that much more fear and horror that he had to endure, and somehow accommodate. After awhile, it wears you down, and that's when people don't necessarily take the best care of their bodies. Lots of cause to gain weight in quieting the anxiety, including alcohol, but also sleep, food, any prescription meds, and also not feeling free to get out and get the best, most helpful exercise. By the time those pictures were taken in Paris, he looked pretty good and healthy again, so he wasn't beyond making an effort to be healthy and look presentable: vastly better than he looked, just a few months before, on PBS, and even lots better than when they were recording _LA Woman_ just a couple of months before. There was probably a lot going on that isn't known to the public, and yet Jim has to be regularly dragged through the court of public opinion, making sure that everyone hears and agrees that he is a complete mess-up, 100% to blame for 100% of his problems. That is hardly true about anyone, although we have to take responsibility for what we can control.
@@gwynnielsen5081 My first reply to you was apparently deleted. I took issue with your assertion that people get as good as they give. But thieves steal and become rich, and sometimes live to an old age, and pass the money on to their heirs. There are many other examples: the people who play on the job become popular, while the ones doing the necessary work get worn down. It also doesnt explain why the sun and rain fall on the just and the unjust alike.
Jim's demise was on him. He was a heavy drinker from day one. LSD, too.He lived in the moment. Pam only fueled his crazy. A real shame.
Exactly. He couldn't say no and didn't give a damn about his health. Not gonna live long doing that, or want to.
I agree. He had those addictive tendencies, especially with alcohol, that he allowed to control his life unfortunately. The other three members used/experimented with substances, but as far as I know never went off the deep end.
he never had a relationship with his dad and bouncing from school to school will always make u feel like an outcast because the roots from your tree never have any soil to plant
It's easy to judge from the outside, but much harder to rationalize from within. Remember your kids are your investment, but their outcome is the world's future.
If u are not a dad, maybe your upset at yourself for not having kids, and are taking it out on Jim for either being a coward or a quitter.
i make a another comparison on the comment section of the correlation to Robert Kennedy and how he had father's issues that eventually destroyed himself and his older brother.
How many people in their early 20s would really have had the ability to navigate the world that he did? There were plenty of traps and he fell into a lot of them.
He's rambling about killing his parents on stage in 1967. I liked a lot of their music, but things were taking a depressing turn long before The Manson family murders. The constant threat of the draft to fight in a war even McNamara knew was unwinnable by 1967, the same year the song was written, probably caused a lot of people to live in the moment, even if it was potentially lethal. Morrison was probably protected from the draft due to his wealth and connections, but maybe he felt guilty about that.
He seems to have had the sensibility and sensitivity of a pure artist. The rock and roll world, driven by sales, is a dangerous place for a pure artist.
Very true!
Big money in any genre of music, eventually destroys it. The big money boys who finance bands, hoping for a return on their investment, love money not music. Always remember what it says in the Bible. It's not money itself, but the love of money, (greed) is the root of all evil.
@@user-kj5td9hd3s well said there, man.👉🔥👈
Artists are some of the biggest arseholes you will ever meet. -Artist, former fine arts professor, etc etc.
This has since been disproven.
One of the best rock voices ever
Not even just rock voice but any voice
His Voice? Mediocre at best. Morrison got away with an average voice because of the incredible talent of his bandmates. Even Yoko Ono was a close second to jim.
Merde alors
his voice and how he used it was magic...anyone trying to cover a Doors song fail to the original. And as sad as it is, his incredibly talented bandmates didn't produce anything memorable after Morrison's departure...@@danielbrown3461
@@danielbrown3461 "the incredible talent of his bandmates."
John Densmore, incredible talent?
Oh boy...
Pam's dealer was the son of a french diplomat who left France the day after he overdosed. So I think Jim died from the heroïn he bought for Pam, then the father protected his son by hiding the true reason of the death. That's why the police report mentions a heart attack and why Jim was buried so quickly
Yea ive heard that theory.
@@freewheelingideas However, I was also interested in alternative theories, notably that of mind control by the CIA. In this theory, counter-culture was initiated by the CIA in order to control young people (who outnumbered their elders with the post-war baby boom, and whose demands threatened the established order), notably through the use of LSD. The CIA would have encouraged the emergence of all these groups by giving the means to the music industry (Jim Morrison is the son of an admiral, he went to school with the singer of the Mamas, herself the daughter of a military officer, Franck Zappa is also linked to the army, etc.) In short, as far as Jim is concerned, he could have become a nuisance. And what better way to neutralize resistance than with heroin? It's interesting to note that Janis Joplin obviously died of the same heroin as Pamela, since they had the same dealer, whose wealthy family was closely linked to power. In the end, the story is the same: Jim goes to buy heroin for Pam, he tastes it, it's too strong, he dies, the death is made up and the body quickly buried.
However, I was also interested in alternative theories, notably that of mind control by the CIA. In this theory, counter-culture was initiated by the CIA in order to control young people (who outnumbered their elders with the post-war baby boom, and whose demands threatened the established order), notably through the use of LSD. The CIA would have encouraged the emergence of all these groups by giving the means to the music industry (Jim Morrison is the son of an admiral, he went to school with the singer of the Mamas, herself the daughter of a military officer, Franck Zappa is also linked to the army, etc.) In short, as far as Jim is concerned, he could have become a nuisance. And what better way to neutralize resistance than with heroin? It's interesting to note that Janis Joplin obviously died of the same heroin as Pamela, since they had the same dealer, whose wealthy family was closely linked to power. In the end, the story is the same: Jim goes to buy heroin for Pam, he tastes it, it's too strong, he dies, the death is made up and the body quickly buried.
Wow! That is some interesting information. It certainly would answer a lot of questions concerning Jim's parents' actions or lack thereof after his death. May I ask you how you learned this? Or if you would mind sharing any additional information on the matter? Thank you in advance. 😊
@@darlynegardner2158 I'm french and Jim died in France, so legal reports and interviews are in french. Here is the medic report (heart failure): wildlove.chez.com/jimprincipal/doc3.gif
He took a face from the ancient gallery is one of my favorite lyrics of all time
A man agrees.
Jim read that ....
He took a face from the ancient gallery and he walked on down the hall
Pretty nifty song but it is too bad that they released the filthy version of it. Why couldn't they just let us remember it for the great song that it was?
@@festidious2644 you missed the point of the song. It's a symbolic statement from Frederick Nietzsche if I'm not mistaken. I know the part you're referring to. It's not to be taken literally though.
It is also very odd that his family is satisfied with not knowing whether his body was in the ground or not. I would expect a military man to demand that they show him his son, in that coffin. I'm sure his mother would demand they show her son in his coffin.
I find that really odd that not even his family questioned this. Really odd.
The Dad was just In pure denial that his wicked son was in a prestigious elitist cemetery when he had dishonored his own mother and father in his music and actions. And denial of his own actions and govt. actions in the Gulf of Tonkin.
Most of the Laural Canyon stuff, is, odd....
Clandestine service family.
@@ofangelsflipzspookxville usa. Cia cesspool
As was Dave McGowan's book on the subject. Which I did like, but in the end he blocked me when I asked him how he managed to avoid talking about The Beatles in an entire section on Charles Manson. Like, to the point that he mentions them as little as he possibly can. With a band so tied to that man, that it's almost impossible to separate them anymore.
On August 9th, 1969, The Beatles cross Abbey Road. Behind them is a Volkswagen Beetle with the license plate ending 28IF.
The same day, a time zone away, Tex Watson and members of the Family are heading over to the house on Cielo in a car registered 281P.
Roman Polanski's last birthday present to Sharon Tate was a car with the registration PGY 330. (Piggy???)
That's a LITTLE bit too coincidental if you ask me. Go ahead ask!
He claimed Frank Zappa was against anti-war protesters, and I could not find a single verification of that claim. Zappa thought placards and stomping up and down outside the capitol was a bit futile, but he did not seem to be against anti-war protest that I could locate.
McGowan's book has a lot of truths, some strange omissions, and I always thought it was an insider inside scoop. Letting you know what wants known, but not the total truth. @@ofangelsflipz
The Miami concert, was really the start of it all..my older sister, went to that concert ( Coconut Grove) and she mentioned it was wild, she also said, that she was close enough to the stage; that Jim, didn't expose himself..
Wow too bad she couldn’t have testified.
@@freewheelingideasshe actually wasn't that much of Doors fan, to be honest..she was into Joni Mitchell, and Jefferson Airplane, and Jimi Hendrix.
THANK YOU!!! Coconut Grove! I use to live there it was awesome! Wish I'd have been there at that concert. Saw them live 3x met Jim backstage in Phila., too bad Pam was there
A strange dude liveing strange days. Another lost soul.
@@freewheelingideas They weren't looking for the truth. They were stopping the destruction of our youth. That all seems so innocent compared to what is happening now.
Crazy how in 2024 people as heavy as jim dont exist anymore... rip the poet/musician/writer/filmmaker... rip charisma in general! Who shines anymore? Isn't that insane!! The soul is on the brink.....
Well said and too depressing to think about. Thank goodness we have this music to turn to.
History shows a warring nation loses its culture and soul
To be sure, blind consumerism and the endless post 911 wars have sapped the creativity and philosophy and science out of the American culture
Very wimpy weaklings rapping about how tough they are, now. Like Eminem, and Kanye. But only because millions of other wimpy weaklings love it.
who shines in 2024? taylor swift is the most amazing, charismatic pop star the world has ever seen: eat your heart out, jim! /s
Taylor is amazing! The eras tour movie i cried the whole time!.. but these dudes from the past! Theres a secret they knew! The ability to go that deep! Maybe its the hunger! I dont know... john lennon, jim, jimi hendrix, cobain ect .. they guard a secret.
Morrison actually had an unusually good baritone voice. He had an unusually strong voice.
If he had been a guy who was inclined, he probably could have had a career as a bel canto singer.
Average at best....on the border of tone deaf.
His vocal on Touch MNow, I'm going to love you
'Til the heavens stop the rain
I'm going to love you
'Til the stars fall from the sky
For you and I
Is really, vocally strong. I think they wrote it with a vague thought Sinatra might cover it.
at most maybe a tenor/baritone but I think a tenor? He wasn't that DEEP in voice
@@user-dk1mw9nk8b I think he was in the Martin/Presley range, if not the later Sinatra/Goulet range. He was deeper than Lennon and certainly McCartney.
The Doors are one of my all time favorite bands. Some of the things Morrison did musically was simply amazing. I read Break on Through in high school. I was amazed at what Morrison would do, drink, push the boundaries of normal society. I recall one of the things Morrison would do. Morison would stay up days on in drinking, walking, and just wandering. My sophomore year in high school I stayed up for two days and just walked everywhere around the beach. I didn’t partake in any alcohol or drugs. I wanted to just walk around and meet people. It was one of the best moments I’ve ever had. I just probably should’ve told my brother I was doing this as he thought I just disappeared. He saw me walking on the beach one evening and yelled my name. He said he was moments away from calling the police and reported me missing. While I did scare the heck out of my brother. It was a good time and I met some interesting people. I still listen to The Doors to this day 34 years later. Great band.
Very cool
That's interesting. I had a similar experience when I was 17. I had extreme insomnia, I actually did not sleep for a week! I just walked around and talked to people. I was in a psychoedelic state. The doors of perception were open! In later years when I did acid, it was very similar. I experienced extreme moments of synchronicity, and I realized I could influence the world with thoughts and behavior. People actually started following me and I became like a guru for a week. After a while, the "authorities" noticed as I was disrupting the matrix. I was tricked into going into a teen "facility" and was drugged up. When I became morbidly depressed again, the "authorities" declared victory and let me back into the matrix.
@@user-th3ll8rl7i Cute story, a bit batshit but cute none the less. The matrix...dude, you crack me up. Keep em coming.
To tedwojstic you talking to me? I wasn't trying to be cute. What I experienced wasn't insane, it was the opposite. It was a transcedent experience. That's the point of the name the Doors. The doors of perception are clouded by the "matrix." It would take an encyclopedia to explain this. Millions of people around the world have come to know this. What do you think the whole 60's revolution was about? Score some high quality acid and you'll find out too.
To suggest anyone BUT Jim was “behind” his downfall is to enjoy a misogynist tall tale far more than the truth. Jim was no waif. Brilliant mind and a drive to… push the edge.
Não era abandonado, acho que Jim foi mimado, mas o problema dele foi as drogas, se perdeu como tantos neste mundo. Jogou a vida no lixo.
It is hard to be "intelligent, sensitive and thought provoking" when you drink few bottles of whiskey every day!
Apparently, it isn’t….
Ahh it ain't too hard with a guy of an I.
Q. of around 150
I find it absolutely disgraceful that Pam's parents would even want to have rights to anything about Jim or the Doors over Jim's Family. But that's greed for you. So what that it's wrong and makes absolutely no sense because they had Zero% whatsoever to do with him or them or any of it, but there was a loophole that landed that opportunity to financially benefit by using what's not theirs so why not. Disgraceful & disgusting to say the absolutely least.
With parents like that, perhaps that explains why Pamela turned out the way she did. It definitely wasn't right what they did and there should have been no question about it whatsoever, never mind Jim's family having to take them to court. But, have you seen how people act after even someone impoverished dies? I can only begin to imagine how much worse the sheer madness is when there is that much money involved. I totally agree w/ you that it was disgraceful and disgusting behaviour on their part.
@@RAW-zz7gt wonderful, thanks for sharing this.
He really did not have a downfall, as such. He DID have a drinking problem, and he DID choose to snort heroin in his Paris apartment with Pamela... after drinking all day. The combination killed him. But Jim already had several health issues leading up to the day of his death. One of them was an injury to his lungs that he got in a fall from heights. He also was a smoker of tobacco. He was burning his candle at both ends for years, and it caught up with him.
wow. he also smoked.... no, that will be one of the major facts for killing you at age 27
@@normadesmond6017, smoking cigarettes gave him a nasty cough, which got worse after he fell from a third story ledge. Jim opened a window and walked out on the ledge about 3 floors up, and accidentally fell onto the roof of a storage shed. That accident harmed his lungs even more. His friend from film school that had lunch with Jim on the last day of Jim's life noticed this savage cough.
Heroin ? No......in Paris he only did alcohol ! Lots and lots of alcohol
@@pleun315 Jim always hated Heroin. He'd never do it. And he hated Pam being a junkie.
@@hiramwilliams7560 thats correct, the only reason she went to Paris was for " the count" he provided everyone with China white, heroin. Marianne Faithfully was also there at the time for him and the heroin, she admitted in interviews. Pam was almost most of the time with her own friends in the bars on the South Bank of the Seine, while Jim did his own thing. There are some very detailed videos about the people who where with him, on his last weeks and days.
Jim's downfall was having a heroin addict girlfriend who left her drugs out.
Pam Courson was the worst girlfriend he could possibly have.
Yeah she was pretty sketchy….☠️☠️☠️
That's BS if you've read any books about Jim...He was afraid of pot and didn't touch hard drugs and died because he was a drunk....
Yes he was a alcoholic, but in the early days of the doors he used large amounts of acid as well as weed.@@robertbouchard6719
Jim went to the crossroads and made a 4 year deal with the Devil.
Still to this day I find him the most handsomes man on this earth❤
I heard during a radio interview Ray Manzerek say Jim was a "hopeless drunk." He also said Oliver Stone's movie The Doors was a "pack of lies."
I heard that, too!
All of Stone's movies are a pack of lies. Even his own story as told in Platoon was a pack of lies. What Stone does is create single characters out of multiple people and then puts those characters into situations that are based on a mix of loosely based truth infused with highly concentrated bullshit. For example, Sgt Barnes in Platoon was an amalgamation of about 3 different sgts that Stone served with, and he (stone) never saw any attrocities in villages, he just took what he heard about my lai and then placed his fake characters into similar situations. Thats what Stone does. It works for Hollywood but you cant ever accuse his movies of being truthful. He is a storyteller, pure and simple.
@@stevebell4853 he's a great filmmaker
@@stevebell4853 That's what Hollywood does lol. Get out and have drink.
@@stevebell4853 JFK, another pack of lies. The only thing he got right in that movie was the date and location of the assassination. Commie POS.
I was behind Jim's downfall...But Jim was in front of his own downfall...
Damaged people tend to surround themselves with damaged people. Unless there is an epiphany of some sort, self destructive behavior to self destruction. All people struggle at some point in their life, and when you're young with little experience, it can be difficult to overcome these struggles. People need to show empathy, or at least sympathy for others struggles. But I have a real problem with the suggestion that anyone was responsible for Morrison's downfall, rather than his own self destructive behavior.
Liar, CIA did it.
Be careful what you ask for, you just might get it.
So true...no one forced Morrison to ingest alchohol or drugs. It was his decision. For this reason, classifying addiction as a "disease" rankles me to no end. I can quit drinking or smoking dope. How do I quit cancer or dementia?
Jim was on this Earth to do just what he did! He will live forever!
Amen
Do you really think he's alive right now?
I think he's dead. Like the ðog I had as a kid. Dead.
@@dannymccarty344 Does that make you feel better? It does make you seem childish.
@@williampotter2098 I can say the same about your comment, bro. Your point?
He Dead!
This was my era. Lots of confusion, no anchors, and it happened overnight. As I remember, young people were saddened by his death, reverential, but no one was shocked. They were all dying, one after the other, because of drugs/addiction. He had a phenomenal brain, great intelligence. Who knows what he could have done in a different era. But he was the cause of his downfall.
Jim was a genius and a poet.
Mick Jagger always wanted to be what he was. Jim Morrison -- not so much. He never aspired to be a rock star, even though it was exciting and fun for a while. By the time he got bored and started to scorn his audience, he was already a major alcoholic. It was too late for a big change. Being drunk all the time, he couldn't have made it on his own (e.g. as an actor). So he continued with the band until he was a physical wreck. Then he "escaped" to Paris but didn't really try to adopt a healthier lifestyle. Sad story.
... and then there were those warrants...
If you want to understand why Jim was tired of being a "Rock Star", go on line & look up The Doors Touring Dates. That was enough to wear anybody out. Plus, him getting Drunk before & after allmost every concert certainly didn't make it any easier. He was Burned out with the the whloe Trip.
Then the Police started fucking with him after Miami. Enough was enough. He didn't give a Shit about money. So touring became a pain in the ass. He wanted out..
@@davidhirsch2912 Anyone who toys with the Dark Side gets pulled in.
@@davidhirsch2912 Morrison didn't give a shit about possessions, but he surely needed the money... for accountants, lawyers, his girlfriend and booze.
I agree Georg
A toxic relationship will always eventually end. Wether he planned an escape or actually died was a result of him escaping the situation
Jim went to school with other military kids that also were moved around a lot, so he was surrounded by kids having the same experience. I know this because I was a military kid who changed schools a lot as well. I doubt he was looked at as odd for being the new kid
It's often said that roaming bands of military brats gotta bratty wit jfk. Hence, blown away. Yessirno?
Makes sense. May I ask if you attended any public schools? I just realized I know nothing about military kids schooling...
His dad had a hand in the Gulf of Tonkin false flag. He then moved to Laurel Canyon where he joined up with other kids of higher ups in the intelligence, defense department and military contractors. Zappa, Baez, Kesey up in San Francisco, Hendrix and Garcia were both in the military…. The whole “scene” is kinda suspect with all the links to government agencies and dark ops of the time.
Well I too was a military brat, and I absolutely NEVER fit in anywhere. So...
@@matthewlawton9241 was your father the admiral that was involved in the Gulf of Tonkin? And the friends you have all the kids of higher ups of military contractors and intelligence agencies?
Of course Jim was the instrument of his demise. Just like every rock star whose addictions fucking buried them. Alcoholism nearly buried me, but I wanted to get free of it and found a way.
Dont do drugs kids and if you do you have to have the balls and strength to stop doing them. Dont be weak and let it kill you. Im speaking from experience lol. Its hard it's not easy but a few weeks of pain is better than a short life of addiction. Dont be weak, be strong and fight!!!!!
As an ex heroin addict...I can honestly say...that if u love a junky...u become one eventually...so I blame his obsession with Nihilisn and yes to a decent extent his relationship with Pam...probably would have died young anyway...but heroin gets u there quicker
Yea I think so
Yeah me also. One of the things I read was that he was afraid of needles. Thought he was snorting coke. The count that scored for Pam supplied the heroin that killed lots of the famous. I remember China White being deadly back in the day.
I love Jim Morrison as much as the next guy (probably more), but I'm honestly amazed he made it as long as he did
Ditto. But, I propped him up with with bohnerz n amyls n he made it. He's eightyfoattie foive now in Buca Ratoni
@@BetrayerSlayerMusic OK
I know.. some people have made these idiotic comments like “ no one dies at 27” I’m like what? Of course people die at 27 especially if you are abusing your body with alcohol and drugs
THE DOORS WERE A TERRIFIC BAND ❤❤❤
@@dukelukas5965 Lol, this dude must be a troll, he has made more than one idiotic or mentally ill inspired comment for whatever reason
Jim's lifestyle killed him.
Fame is a crock, power is a crock, who the hell wants that? Freedom man, freedom, enough money just to be, yourself. No acting, no image, just be. Getting up when you like and doing what you like, dress how you like. If you have somebody who loves and supports you and doesn't want a piece of you? That's probably as good as it gets man. - Mickey Alvarez. (Jim Morrison)
Personally one of the problems that I think Morrison had is that he probably felt like a hypocrite. He was trying to be free of the establishment, but had to sell himself to get there to the point where he became part of the establishment. It's like claiming to want to be free of capitalism, and then asking people to buy your records and t-shirts, which is as capitalist as it gets. Do you see the conflict? You want to be free from posessions and junk, but you have to sell posessions and junk to people to be free. It's a nasty cycle because at the end of the day, living costs and you cant eat dirt, it's a no way out situation that the hippy culture could never resolve and thats why most of them gave in and got jobs.
When your face starts turning up on other people's t-shirts, thats when you know your image no longer belongs to you. I think Morrison felt like a fake because he sold out and I dont think he could ever come to terms with it. This is basically the whole premise for "Easy Rider" which sums it all up much better than I ever could. At the end when the one guy says "we did it, we're living the dream" and the other guy says "no.....we blew it"......thats what I'm talking about here. You cant claim to be living a capitalist free dream when you had to sell drugs to achieve it.
The same with Morrison's music, image, and life. He had to sell it all. Thats the worst kind of blowing it there is to someone who hates capitalism.
Anyone with acute drug and alcohol addiction is heading for a downfall ....
I've loved the doors since I first heard "Light my fire" in 67! So sad that he burned so brightly for such a short time. Godbless you Jim and the doors....
You know who also burn brightly....young kids...some as young as 18-19 who are given orders to storm a enemy stronghold such as...the beaches of normandy and who are gunned down. Morrison never had the courage. And he was raised up in relative wealth ....his father being a wealthy high ranking officer so he was never forced into service because of the need for money. In summary he was a semi spoiled brat who was a closet gay.
Perhaps the Greatest Song ........
I think what killed him was Miami Court Case. He was worried about how much time he was going to have to do in prison. I think that is why he went to France because he couldn't be extradited when and if he was sentenced. In a way he has achieved immortality.
I thought that too.
The family is keeping some dark family secrets from the fans. I’m convinced he had childhood trauma, but based on what Ray said, he had a redneck side that came out when he binge drank.
On another bio about Jim, he said he would need at least a suitcase of tranquilizers to face the trial. And ironically, it seemed he was innocent of that particular charge levied against him! EXCELLENT video, BTW. Many pix I've never seen before and very professional video. Kudos.🎉🎉
There is a very detailed video about his last days in Paris, all people involved speak up without any filter....Agnes Varda and Alain Ronay....the last who saw him alive
I saw that one too! Excellent video. Thanks for mentioning it.@@pleun315
Excellent and accurate until the ending. Jims regular hang out at the Rock and Roll Circus in Paris was friends with the bartender. Bartender testified 2 guys came in to talk with Jim quickly and then left quickly. Jim had scored Pam's heroin and went to the bathroom which had closet like rooms to sit in. The bartender noticed Jims drink sitting so went in bathroom and pushed open the door and Jim was sitting down, clothed dead with blood out of right nostril. Dead. The dealer, Count Jean de Breteuil was one pf P,ams lovers and son of 2nd richest family in France. he also provided Marianne Faithful etc. The bar manager called his friends to get the now dead Jim Morrison out of his bar. Eye witnesses who gave interviews years ago testified they took him in a bed sheet down a hall, out an ally @ 4am up to a hysterical Pams apt. The Medical Officers that reported something very odd?
Why was Jims head was under the faucet with same blood out of right nostril and not resting on the incline of the tub as a normal position? Because they were scared to death and they were not thinking and the top half of human body is heaviest....all this is on the web in bits and pieces. The bartender that night liked Jim and did not want any fame or attention but, I have seen him in 3 different interviews over the years. All the exact same. The witnesses in the halls were in there 70's by that time and did not mind recounting what they had seen as so long ago.....I was 18 years old ( 1969) with my girlfriend and heard this strange song come on " Crystal Ship"......that was it for me. Now I', 72 on a beach in Thailand. Waiting For the Sun ( " this is the strangest life I 've ever lived " yyyyaaaaaaaaahhhhhhh)
The truth is important, and cover ups suck, but If what you say is true, and happened, it doesn't matter to me, as an appreciator of Doors music, how he died. What matters in the end is that, by all and consistent accounts, he killed himself slowly with large doses of alcohol 7 days a week.
Perhaps it was a hot dose
The intelligence organizations have been outed for whacking several influential rock stars in that era using this means
Those facts & Theory are all very possible,
expecially the fact about his head being at the Faucet end of the Tub. Who ever dumped him in the Tub, just wanted to get the Hell out of there.
I kinda lean to my own theory, he snorted some of Pam's China White Heroin, felt really good, did some more & OD'ed. No Narcan back then. Pam was probally right there Nodded Out when He died. When she woke for her stupor, he was dead.
Freak out time. She called her friends over & they all got him in the Ground before anyody could investigate what happened. She came back to LA
ithe next day with Bill Siddons, she went on a down hill slide & OD'ed on Herion a couple of years later. Nobody forced Jim to snort the Smack. What's that old expresion: Shit Happens.
Dr Phil did a special on his death. You really should check it out.
My mom was a Hollywood kid back in the late 60's. She bumped into Morrison on the strip. She described him as a fool (he described himself as a clown); of course, she said she was also a fool at the time. It was a playground back then that started out innocent enough, but turned ugly in the end for so many. She also ran into Charles Manson in Hollywood, before the murders. Steve Parent (the guy who got shot in his car at the Tate house) went to High School with my Mom ... Arroyo HS in El Monte. From the way my Mom describes it, it doesn't help to glorify Morrison or people like him. He wasn't someone to aspire to. He wasn't a god. The music of The Doors is legengary, no doubt, but Jim's poetry books left me disappointed. It sounds to me that he was a classic narcissist who masked his pain with drugs. He was probably intersting to hang out with for short spurts.
Crosby said Jim was an asshole. Everytime he came to a good calm peaceful party Jim would come in and ruin the whole vibe making a loud ass of himself. Yelling at people or pushing people down the stairs.
@@JohnGaltGurgi. That wasn't Jim. That was his alter-ego "Jimbo".
And Crosby wasn't an r'shole lol@@JohnGaltGurgi
@@JohnGaltGurgi And Crosby knows what an asshole is.
@@JohnGaltGurgi Please, David Crosby was one of the most toxic assholes in rock music. Talk about pot calling kettle black.
As Ray said, all those flashes from all those cameras in the audience and yet not one picture of the so called..
"exposing himself" Being falsely convicted was the final blow to self preservation for Jim The depression and heavy drinking that followed cost him his life Rest in peace our dear Jim 🙏 ❤
Yes I think he was terrified of going back to that
@@freewheelingideas Agreed...he was.. and rightly so
If he was such a rebel and anti authoritian as they say he was being falsly convicted would have been met with a smirk. It's clear now that morrison had a soft upbringing. Full of priviledge. He most certainly was a closeted Bisexual.
@@danielbrown3461 Did you watch the trial? He did originally joke around and have a smirk until he realized how crooked the judge was. And his girlfriend...would disagree with you
@@danielbrown3461 Unless he was a close friend or close associate of yours, your last comment is only 10% likely, (that being the best estimate of bisexuality, based on established research). Not sure why you, or anyone else, cares about who another person, famous or not, is intimate with. Am I saying that politely enough?
Every single one of his poems is a masterpiece.❤
Jim was my friendly but friend. He spoke for me- he sang for me. I never actually knew him, of course- I lived in NZ. My friends were into smack [heroin]. I was just a skinny country kid- and knew how to survive- to duck and dive. I am still alive now- to tell the tale... ...my nephew Dale died -od-ed over ten years ago. I know the whole story- but family will not tell the whole story. Family is usually scared of the truth.
Jim was way ahead of time and highly intelligent maybe a tortured genius.. Rip Jim
I wonder how artists who die young would be regarded if they had lived. Would they still have legend status or would they have simply faded away.
Director Agnes Varda was called up by Pam to handle dealing with Jim’s body and the Paris police. Marianne Faithfull was in the loop because her boyfriend sold Jim the fatal batch that killed him. It sounded like Jim and Pam were co-dependent but at the same time weren’t exactly monogamous.
Pam cheated like crazy from what I've heard. She also manipulated him.
@@stj971 : Now, aside from their relationship being co-dependent, we would also call it toxic.
Possibly a number of factors caused Jim Morrisons death. He was sensitive, and this combined with substance abuse is deadly. I speak from experience. He had loneliness, a strict father, estrangement from family, no opportunity to form close friendships due to moving around all the time. A destructive relationship with a fellow substance abuser. I think they fed into each other.
"We live, we die, and death not ends it." -JDM
He's right there with me everytime I'm listening to the tunes. If its a tear or a smile I get from his lyrics, I come away with just a little bit more of a fortified soul. Thank you so much James, love ya!!!❣️🙏🏻🔥
We live and we die and death not separate the two...do you remember being born?.
No, it must have happened in one of my Black Outs - JWD
I don’t think the psychedelics were his problem if anything they probably contributed to him breaking out of his shell and exploring possibilities/diminishing fear caused by conditioning.
I would go as far to say that a return to the psychedelics as opposed to alcohol would have allowed him to possibly reconnect with himself.
In general, I think it’s easy to lose yourself when you are always under pressure to perform and be someone that you aren’t.
In the end, I really think he was suffering on the inside as he was so quickly disillusioned or disconnected from himself.
Oasis played at Loch Lomand 1996, they played 'Live Forever' when Jim Morrison face appeared on the huge screen 80,000 fans went wild. Amazing really for a man who died 25 years ago still has that impact.
What I did was to fake my death but I'm still here.
Great photos of young JDM..
Thank you
Being the son if the guy who started Vietnam (Admiral Morrison was responsible for the Gulf of Tonkin) was hard to bear in the rebellious sixties. Might be the key to his drinking spiral and depression.
Wonder if Jim knew it was a false flag?
Painfully ironic. Madness. Two book ends to the 60's culture. The Admiral and the rock star codify the meaning of that generations in fighting
I saw them up in Madison in about 1968. Very weird show, at the end Jim went fulltilt nutjob and smashed the mic-stand onto the floor and walked off the stage and that was it, the show was over. Nobody cheered or clapped, we all just stood there in silence like, WTF WAS THAT? I was with some pretty feaky people, friends of mine who were on acid (I wasn't, I hated acid) but back then some guys just ate it like it was popcorn. Freaky memories I haven't thought about for years, triggered by watching this video on UA-cam. Very unpleasant!
Just go back to his childhood. IMO. Loved JM, as a teenager that sound hit my soul. I never did see The Doors on stage but my sister did - the best gig ever is what she says to this day. She is 70 next week. RIP Jim.
Very cool
Just mind boggling that there wasn't an investigation and autopsy. Usually when someone in their 20s dies mysteriously in their home and someone was there they dig a little.
They wanted to cover it up clearly.
You say "usually" but this was France in 1970. Jim wasn't French. As far as the authorities were concerned, he was just another foreign, hippy type.
Heroin connection to French aristocracy
French Connection. Afghanistan to Turkey to France was the route. He was too young to be smart enough to dump the junkie girlfriend, though his physical appearance clearly shows he was putting down gallons of alcohol.
You are correct, and France in 1971 did indeed require all deaths outside of a doctors supervision (someone dying while under medical care), or under the age of 60, t undergo a full autopsy. Either someone was paid off, or more likely, the bane of human reality...gross incompetence and laziness. Most govts. are not out to get anyone, but they are staffed by humans and many humans are lazy idiots.
Morrison, like most other human beings, is responsible for his own demise. His unbridled pride, narcissism and anti-social, self-destructive nature certainly directed him down the path that swallowed him entirely. He made the decision to run down his chosen path as fast as he could, only to hit the wall in Paris. The people who surrounded him were unable to get thru the walls he started building during his childhood. Sadly, he found it easier to self-medicate himself off the face of the earth, than seek help. Definitely, one of the most gut-wrenching stories in rock history!
I would imagine that seeking 'help' in those days was quite stigmatized; and adding his anti-establishment views that were popular at the time, it just wasn't going to happen. But, putting together all of the details of his upbringing, along with a strong personality, his own psychological 'defenses' and the pressures of public notoriety, his was a path headed for a cliff. It's easy to judge and find the flaws, but all humans are vulnerable under the right circumstances.
@@empireoflizards Ask EVERY soldier that made it home from Vietnam about the lack of help available in that era. If you were indeed referring that I was judging Morrison, you'd be spot on. However, I wasn't simply making a lame attempt at taking an "easy" jab at Morrison's human fallibilities. I was speaking from personal experience as a once self medicating, recovering cocaine addicted 70's rock musician. I was neither judging nor trying to smear Morrison's reputation. He did that all by himself. Even though his life was obviously a sad state of affairs, and having had actual contact with him on several occasions, I feel I said nothing but the truth. And, I said it in the exact same way that I had to in order to face MY OWN fallibilities to get myself out of the hell I foolishly imposed upon myself. All too often, the truth hurts like hell. We ALL have to figure that out.
@@Jakexx01 I completely agree with your reply. My comment was more generally directed but you make great points.
@@empireoflizards I wouldn't be here if I had chosen to coddle myself. Peace. Have a great Easter.
@@Jakexx01 A great Easter for you as well.👍
I've just read the excellent 'Janis' by Holly George-Warren, and the life of Janis Joplin is similar in some respects. She lived absolutely recklessly, and by the age of 19 her coming self-destruction was apparent already. Added to that, I recommend Riders On The Storm by John Densmore, the drummer. All three remaining members of The Doors have written an autobiography, but this one is the best by far for its writer's self-honesty and its analysis of the late 60s and both the light and dark sides of the era. Both of these books are very thought-provoking.
Accidental overdose. It seems he snorted a line of Pamela's Heroin thinking it was coke. Her dealer meddled with the scene. His practice was to pig out on drugs. Obviously you can't do that with heroin, as you can with LSD and Coke. He told Pamela he was feeling sick. Not surprising if it was heroin. Very sad accident. I don't think Jim approved of Heroin so I think Pamela might have lied about what it was.
Anybody that's been around Drugs can tell the Difference between Coke & Heroin just by looking at it.
I always thought he was something of a narcissistic asshole, but I had and loved every Doors album that came out. And with each album that came out, what was never in question was his brilliant way with words, and the hidden buttons he pushed. I came to theorize, and in fact still believe, that of the so-called "27 Club", only he possessed the intellect, money, and desire to pull off his own "death", grew a bigger beard, got bigger and fatter, bought and ran a small cafe' and went on to live the life of freedom he craved and could well afford, possibly still living in Paris in well managed obscurity and having the last laugh to this day. Surely there had to be an M.E., witnesses that fished his lifeless body out of the tub, or at the very least, an ambulance driver who could have verified that it was indeed Jim Morrison. Back then, rumor had it that no one ever actually saw Pamela's dead body either, possibly having gotten all their earthly affairs in order before joining him there. The sister throughout the video, never seems too broken up and comes off as possibly knowing something the rest of us never will.
It would answer a hell of a lot of questions why Jim's parents did not pursue any action and why they reacted as they did. It would also explain why they never contested Pamela, a known and documented heroin junkie, getting Jim's estate. Another point which could have easily been argued. They did nothing until AFTER she supposedly died, and not until 1979. That is very strange. I think that if Jim did fake his death, he would have stayed in France and did exactly as you said. Most fans did not even recognize Jim when he grew out the beard in 69', if he would have cut his hair, kept a beard and possibly tanked up a bit, he would have been unrecognizable. As he was also low key by nature (pre-fame), he likely would have reverted back into his bookish, scholarly persona and gone completely unnoticed.
Absolutely loving this thread. Definitely one if the greatest rock mysteries, and some of us hold out some obscure hope that he did fake his death, and perhaps is even still around somewhere. However, with Jim's alcoholism and drugs it's more likely he actually did die, but the circumstances of that are another mystery all it's own
Janis Joplin only referred to him as "the a** hole"
Read Ray's Book, The Poet in Exile.
Jims dad was very proud of his accomplishments, and thats good.
A beautiful man with a beautiful voice.
Jim Morrison randomly grabbed Janis Joplin and slammed her to the ground. No reason. Jealousy maybe.
Really “BEAUTIFUL”
Pure bullshit.@@ezsmith3765
@@ezsmith3765It was the other way around, get your facts straight. Joplin even broke a bottle of southern comfort over Jim's head.
@@lilajagears8317 I am a tremendous admirer of Morrison and his work, have been for decades. I've read just about every available book over the years; band member biographies/autobiographies, others in Doors circle. I have read more than one account by direct witnesses and some second hand, that he grabbed and pulled her by her hair...and also, yes, she indeed brought a bottle of SC down on his head. It seems there is some accountability there that can be attributed to both, but he arguably started the physical confrontation for whatever reason.
How about changing "beautiful" to "pretty", if that's what you are seeing. We are what we DO, and he did many things that were as far from beautiful as one can get, short of murder. Inferior character, combined with that demon alcohol. Nothing beautiful about that.
Jim was the author of his own demise. The arguments about what a tortured genius he was only go so far. Ultimately, Jim was the one who destroyed himself.
What killed Jim was an addiction to drugs causing chemical changes and dependencies in the brain since a young developing age. Even before he met Pam, he was attracted to alcohol and psychedelics. This left him with a destructive void chemically and psychologically in his brain. His socially unstable upbringing left him with a vulnerability to experiment and get hooked on drugs that altered his perceptions and gave him a form of escape from even his own mind. So he was vulnerable to being in association with any junky. It just so happened to be Pam, the love of his life and the person he felt most connected to, who helped him, (at a time and place (Paris) where he was more secluded) to really go overboard. They also say that his years of drinking so heavily were started to catch up to his health and he was having heart and lung problems. You can see it in the very last photos of him, that, even though he had lost weight, his face was very puffy full of fluid.
What are you? A Shrink?
He liked to get Loaded.
Jim lived life on his own terms. "Downfall" is somebody else's perception. Not everyone is interested in a lifetime achievement award. I came fairly late to The Doors music, somewhat put off by the hype and the image of "Jim Morrison, the rock god sex symbol." It sounded like baloney to me. But if you put all that aside and just focus on the music, it's an extraordinary body of work. And it took FOUR people to create it, by the way. Don't forget that.
It's all been said before , but still pleasant to see someone keeping the Lizard King's fire blazing . I was in Miami in 1969 and remember it well . I am also a musician , attended Florida State and Allen Ginsberg wrote the liner notes for my book of poetry . I have a strange connection & empathy for Jim . He was ( is , depending on one's Conspiracy theory opinion of his passing ) a great Artist . Thanks for the Video .
Wow thank you for sharing and thanks for the positive feedback 🙏 hopefully some young people see these stories too get inspired
Ginsberg was nothing but a bad beard. No brains...
I am 62, and he was a bit before my time, but I have always had a strange empathy for him too. I really really would have liked to see what his life would have been if he had lived.
@@MultiSkyman1 I was born in 76. So, some of the great musicians were either just hitting their peak or going strong. I always loved Jim Morrison's voice. I have to agree with you, it would have been great to see what he would have accomplished. Not only just Morrison, but Hendrix and Bon Scott as well. ❤
@@freewheelingideas Thank you for posting this video! I just found your channel and subbed. I loved the footage that you included in this video. I would have loved to see them perform 'Crystal Ship's live. Not only that, but seeing both Jim and Van Morrison on stage together! Thanks for the great video. I look forward to checking out the rest of your content. 😊
That kind of quick, massive fame and adoration and money can easily destroy an unprepared man.
@JoeBlow-fp5ng Candy is dandy but liquor is quicker.
You see it in singers and athletes especially, and child actors. Art Carney said he was glad he didn’t become famous until he was well into his thirties.
Im sorry, but if my lover was overdosing and literally dying like that, i wouldnt be able to just go to sleep. Id call an ambulance, dudes literally dying screw what hes says esp since hes not in the right mind.
She was a bitch apparently. Gorgeous, but still…
Agreed. If that was what had happened.
Alcohol was Jim’s biggest downfall unfortunately. Jim’s favourite drug was alcohol and a lot of it😉. Very intelligent Very talented man✌️❤️
The Divine Drunk.
It probably would have killed him at a young age. He likely had a rather cirrhotic liver and was pre-diabetic due to alcohol and a diet of nothing but spaghetti according to accounts. Just judging from his appearance in the last years of his life. But it was ultimately heroin that did it. Alcohol would have made it easier for him to overdose as well, with the way he drank.
Love the Doors. A girl I had a huge crush on in high school was a huge Doors fan. I would mock her because I have always been into heavy metal. When I hear Jim sing for the first time, my life was changed. I lost a relationship with a great girl because of being judgemental. It's very ironic that I support Jim's stance against the mindset.
With many years of drinking to excess, using psychadelics.....dying of a drug overdose on heroin seems to be the most likely culprit, and Jim was the author of his own demise....
Yeah, sure !
I doubt he'd have taken it if he knew it was heroin.
I respectfully disagree. It was Pam that brought heroin into his life. It was her dealer and on-again/off-again lover, Marianne Faithfull's boyfriend at the time who sold him the heroin that he overdosed on that fateful night.
He was a good man problem that still goes on today . That's people can't handle real . He was real .
He was a closet Bisexual.
Well, there was that one witch.... He needed better company imo, the man was a like a living portal. And he died at 27... it blows my mind.
The infamous "27" crowd. Very odd.
Being out of breath to climb stairs and his friend asking him if he was alright is a great clue as to his health and medical condition right before his death.If he did heroin and drank booze things can escalate quickly.Just the rapid burial without concern for close family or band members involvement is troubling.
He was also out of shape and obese at the end. Putting on that much weight and a poor diet probably caused him to have high blood pressure. Add in drugs and booze,and I'm sure stress and you have a toxic cocktail.
Plus I read that he had an enlarged heart and high blood pressure as result of childhood rheumatic fever. He also often dangled off of high ledges, and read somewhere a untreated damaged rib from a fall may have meant some inner hemorrhaging. If any of those things are true, he could’ve died without overdosing. Years of drinking, without any of the above causes, also could’ve been fatal. There really should’ve been an autopsy. I wonder if the French authorities always were so careless with suspicious deaths back then.
I did some rethinking and its not a new theory.What if Jim's quick burial was done to stop authorities investigating the how and why he died and who was responsible?. This stops the media circus and any arrests that would have been due. Pamela: If she was around using with Jim, then she could be targeted as a potential suspect. Since She was a well known H addict, She wouldn't want police snooping around.She okay'd the quick burial in Paris,lying and telling authorities that Jim had no guardians and his parents were dead.2.Drug Dealers: Obviously, could put pressure on Pamela to bury the body quickly, with threats and so squelch any further investigations into a bad Heroin ring etc..3>Still don't understand why Jim's father,with high ranking military authority wouldn't have asked to exhume the body and investigate further. A next of kin can do that, let alone one with such an influence as his dad. Quite possibly, they were told the truth and decided it better left as it was.
NO WAY he didn't have AFIB and he would be easily treated today@@girlfriday-nl9we
@@girlfriday-nl9weBooze and heroin are fatal
Apparently Jim did not die in the apartment that he and Pam were renting at 17 rue Beautreillis. An alternate story exists of him over dosing in the washroom of the Rock n Roll Circus on Rue Mazerine in the 6th arrondissement.
Precisely. Exactly as Marianne Faithfull wrote in her autobiography. It took her 30 years to tell the story of Jim's death (why, I don't know) but I don't think she had any reason to lie about it. Add into your comment that it was Pam's French heroin dealer who introduced her to heroin and her on-again/off-again lover, who was seeing Marianne at the time who gave/sold the heroin to Jim. Finally, finally, someone w/ the correct story (as told by Marianne Faithfull). Thank-you!
True. Jim died in the bathroom stall of the nightclub
Interesting to hear Jim comment on pleasing the audience.
I always thought what was so alluring about him was that he seemingly didn’t care what anyone thought of him.
At least, he did a really good job of coming across that way.
As a human being (or a junky, take your pick), being inconsistent and a hypocrite comes with the territory. We all do it. Say the right thing when someone shoves a microphone under your nose but then go home and do the very opposite to the thing you said into the microphone. It's a very human thing. What it basically means is that you cant truthfully trust anyone 100%. Everyone has a point at which they turn into a hypocrite. Even more so when you're trying to sell yourself as an image. Add drugs and booze into the equation and you'll be all over the fucking place with inconsistencies.
Here be truth for those that have understanding. Junkies tell people what they think they want to hear in order to get what they want. I've had a few junky friends, they all had the same ability to look into your eyes and tell you that they love you, the next minute once they've got what they want from you they're smacking the shit out of you and treating you like dirt. Then comes the tears and heartfelt I'm sorry's and round and round we go. Did I tell you that I love you? I trully do. Can you score for me?
So basically, humans and junkies.....everyone is a hypocrite sometimes.
I'm proud to say Jim was behind my downfall! When you're ready for a downfall I highly recommend Jim as a role model!
lol
Ditto😮
Jim was somewhat behind my downfall too. I took acid because I wanted to be like him when I was 20, and I developed HPPD (Hallucinogen Persisting Perception Disorder). Now I can't hold down a job or even drive myself.
Well said, I followed his Foot Steps too.
But, As Clint Eastwood said, a man's got to know his limitations.
Imagine having YOUR life examined under the world microscope through YOUR 20's.
Good point
As a man with a serious alcohol problem, i'm going to go out on a limb and say alcohol and Jim had the main role in his problems. And that is too bad because I believe he was probably a good man.
04:05 "While Jim dealt with a mostly absent father working away in the military..."
Let me translate from MI6 speak. Jim Morrison's dad was US Navy Rear Admiral George Stephen Morrison, who was in charge of the fleet that oversaw the Tonkin Gulf incident, which was the 1964 false flag operation that provided the excuse for the militarization of the Vietnam conflict from 1965 onwards.
Google: george stephen morrison wikipedia
It’s really sad to see alcohol and drugs take over people’s lives.
Tired of the armchair critics up in this comment section claiming he was his own downfall of his own demise blah,blah, blah, be a different story if you personally knew Jim as a person a human being but none of you did and neither did I for that matter, only Jim truly knew himself soo walk on the halllll🤔👉🏼
Well Said.
It's sad that such a great talent was taken so young. I still miss him.
I also often forget that his dad was a naval admiral ! An Admiral! I think that family had some good genetics in it ,among everything else Jim had going for him .
Not a huge sample, but I've met lots of smart men and women with daft kids, and vice versa. The gene pool can be tricky. I tend to go with more environmental explanations. Multiple accounts claim he started to drink heavily at an early age, not just episodical drinking, but every day. His weight gain at the end might suggest his liver failing fast. Liver failure can cause other organ failure simultaneously, heart deterioration etc. Liver cirrhosis with heavy daily drinking can be seen at 25 or 55, and there is no set predictability, only that it will happen.
Yeah he was also involved in the false flag attack in the Gulf of Tonkin. Makes me question everything
Not just any Admiral. He was a key part of the phony Gulf of Tonken incident that got the USA into warring with Vietnam
His Father was a Rear Admirial !! One of the Highest Ranking Officers in the United States Navy. He was the Commanding Officer of the Ship that Fired the First Bomb that Started the Viet Nam War.
Jim hid that Fact. That's why he always told everyone his parents were dead.
If alcohol was invented today, it would be illegal.
They are slowly fading it out..
... or maybe a pharmaceutical company would patent it and promote it as "safe & effective".
Not if the government wanted to tax it.
nice... ....and if you don't drink it, you won't be able to work or get on the bus...@@jeffgarmon1
What about Vaping..and smoking...
I find it funny when people quote Oliver Stone thinking it's things Jim actually said, we need a movie more based in fact than that ridiculous Doors movie.
Oliver Stone is known in the entertainment industry as an opportunist and con man who invents stuff to match his narrative. But he makes entertaining movies. Does the end justify the means? I particularly enjoyed the LA scenes and locations he used in the Doors movie. But that's all.
@@latkagravas2967 I lived in LA for a short time, and I have this great picture my girlfriend took of me standing on the stage at the whiskey, I used to be a huge fan. Read all the books on Jim, no one here gets out alive etc. etc., I just feel that movie made Jim look like a alcoholic asshole, which he was at times, but there was a nice sweet side to Jim Morrison that no one ever captures
That movie sucked bad.
The other Doors hated it.
When addiction takes over the brain the personality amplifies & distorts..Addiction was responsible ...Morrison was self medicating perhaps the pains tht come with being an Artist ..The War With in himself was to furious..
And childhood)family issues.
LA Woman still makes me crank up the volume along with many others! ❤
I've blown a few speakers over the years doing this! 😅😊
Jim killed Jim
The Doors are my favourite band of all time - I am now subscribed to the fact that some special people who touch us in special ways, like Jim, are just angels with a few artistic steps to inspire and then they are gone. And that is how it is - perfectly - meant to be. Universe bless xx.
Jimi Too
Great band, great, legendary music for sure. However, "angels"? We are what we do (did), and what he did killed him. The Universe may have magic, at times and if you believe, but not sure how much of it is used to help those who are as self destructive, and for as long as he was. Just a matter of time.....
You think dying young of a heroin overdose is "perfectly meant to be"? You're a trog. Seek professional health.
Like Jimi & Janis !!
The poet writes the poem he was born to write and then goes wildly into that good night
Never forgotten 🙏 ever!
He’s an original!
I'm a huge Doors fan and loved them, I think Morrison's story is just a tragic tale too in depth for us to even know. Who knows what made him tick, he obviously had some serious childhood issues, it seems like he had a somewhat unstable upbringing as a military brat, other than that I don't know what problems he had😮
I get the feeling he resented his father and did whatever would bring the biggest disappointment to him. Not that he wasn't an artist, he just went about it all wrong. Imagine his dad explaining his antics to his military buddies. To humiliate his dad is something a wayward son would do.
@@stoveboltlvr3798 Yeah, I can see that and I'm sure there was some brutality in the mix as well, we can imagine the kind of disciplinarian his father was, especially considering the rank and assignments his father had, I'm sure he was no doting daddy😯
He was such a nice looking guy, and the Doors were one of the best groups ever. I've got all of their albums; manzarek's keyboard is mesmerizing!👍
Also as the eldest they are usually the most messed up
@@stj971 Ya know, this holds some water because I'm the youngest of 3 sons and my older brother was really fucked up Go's rest his soul. Our father was one real miserable piece of shit who should've NEVER had children and my mother was no innocent victim here either for even having children with such a bum!!!
I've spent 40 years digging into JDM and The Doors, and this was an excellent encapsulation of what I feel is the greatest story in the history of rock n' roll. As for Pam, yes I believe she was ultimately what brought him down, in the end. Not just because of the smack, but because she continually betrayed him, which drove him to all kinds of bad behavior. Shortly before his death Jim was prescribed an anti-asthma medication by a French doctor, a medication that was banned in the U.S. due to cardiac issues. It's possible that this medication, in combination with alcohol and/or cocaine (rather than heroin) brought about his death. Marianne Faithful was sure it was her dealer boyfriend's heroin, which is equally possible. We'll never know for sure, but what an incredible life lived. Enough to base a movie on... RIP Jim & Ray
Great comment,thank you!!!
You can ask him when you get to Heaven
Great you found a keen interest. I read a lot about the JFK assassination. Regarding JM, folks living a fast lane life, and/or self destructive behavior over a long period of time, re: consistent accounts of his EVERY DAY alcohol abuse (more accepted in that era) led to his death. Cirrhosis of the liver, which causes many other medical problems in parallel, (heart issues, kidney failure, etc.) can arrive at 25 or 55, and medical science can't explain the discrepancy, except that it exists.
@@davidhirsch2912 Looking forward to that, actually.
Had a very lucid dream once...
rip jim you were awesome artist and poet you rocked stevo
My grandfather was friends with Jim’s father , he asked him to look into his death. My grandfather was the naval attaché in Paris at the time.
Wonderful, comprehensive video.....that somehow takes an old/vintage tired topic and makes it fresh and interesting.....again. I met the band and spent several hours with both
Jim and Ray when they came to Toronto. I was the Immigration officer who "processed"/cleared them to come into Canada. The time I spent with the band away from
the border, Jim proved himself to be just an 'asshole', and Ray just a 'dick'. After dealing with
thousands of people coming into the country one develops an "inherent" sense of a person's
true character.....maybe it was the "rockstar" personae but both were insufferable to be around. I have no reservations stating that Pamela was the main "catalyst" in the demise of
James Douglas Morrison. An amazing, epic talent. RIP 🖤♠
Wow great insight. I’ve heard that before about Ray. Luckily they left us with their music. Thanks!
Thank you for that. Yeah, unless there was some connection I could see that what you say could have been true even tho I'm a huge JM fan. Most alcoholics are obnoxious.
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He was an Aquarian, typical. 👎
@@stj971 I share your "fan" affection for the man. It's the "mystique" that we are attracted to. But to observe him on a 'candid' basis he was just an obnoxious jerk. So too Ray. Ray was your "wannabee" rockstar. Complete lapdog as was the rest of the band. That's why at the time there was a call for Jim to find more highly talented musicians and clean up his act. But he was too lazy/stoned to leave his lifestyle and his "enabler" Pam. The rest as they say......is history. The band had "peaked" as with Jimi Hendrix. I get a laugh out of those who speculate what new "heights" their music might have achieved.....it was over. Fate/destiny stepped in and sealed the deal.
Jim had an average voice....The Amazing epic talent was the other 3 members of the band....including one you described as being a dick. Jim was carried by the other 3 members.
I think what is more crazy then the downfall of this extremely talented but tortured soul was the fact he has made Pamela's family unfairly wealthy from leaving his fortune to Pam and when she died her estranged parents were able to obtain that wealth while his own family hasn't received a cent from it. I'm sure from the late 70's to now, has amassed a good fortune. I bet Pam's parents thought they won the lottery especially from a daughter who hasn't been close to her family and they only obtained the wealth due to state law and no trust or will for either Pam or Jim other then a common law clause that made them married and therefore left her the beneficiary when Jim died and then she naturally overdosed with her new fortune and declining mental health due to long term drug abuse and being lost without her poet and lust for life. Funny how the world has a sick sense of humor ✌🏽❤️
Kind of True. Jim's parents endind up getting awarded half of his estate in court.
Pam died before the Estate was settled.
There are rummors that she was rock bottom, even prostituting herself for money to feed her habit. She was Hot Looking.
@@davidhirsch2912 unfortunately that's what herion will make you do
One of the few smart popular musicians of the modern day