OLED Burn in? Let's find out!
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My 2020 LG CX is nearing 7000 hours. No issues . . . yet. So far so good. It does its refresh every 2000 hrs. and on it goes . . .
Love my CX
@@djozlaone I think we are just “lucky”. To my mind, we just happened to find a sweet spot in LG’s project development cycle. The CX was at the end of a 10 year cycle. The following C1 demarked the beginning of a new development cycle and since then there have been issues with some of LG’s newer technologies although they don’t seem to be yet in the C series rather its the G series? Meanwhile, the competition is fierce and fast moving year to year and its like playing roulette as to know how to get the best picture, performance and in particular - longevity - for your hard earned money. Makes my head spin as I watch reviews and follow technology trends. Unless you have purchased extended warranties it isn’t easy to swap tv’s out without having to spend - even more money. Quite frustrating / annoying / aggravating spending more - good money after bad! Often I think manufacturers could care less?!
11k hours no problem
An OLED doesn't look nearly as good as it did new after that many hours, you just can't tell or don't have a side by side comparison which is fine. My c1 after 4,000 hours looks dimmer and more washed out than it did new and I baby the panel
@@proggz39 Lg seems to go through teething issues as they progress up the development line from one generation to the next. A whole variety of problems plagued the previous series until they got to the 2020 - CX. Mine is going on 4 years old now and I am not seeing what you describe - yet. Did you purchase an extended warranty? I do routinely as I don’t trust what I might get in the “panel lottery”. So far, I consider myself - LUCKY! However, I know that could change at any moment. My thought is that LG might finally get all the issues worked in this current generation by the time they get to the next C-10 again?
It's definitely a form of burn in. It's not a static logo or anything, but it's the "uneven wear" of the pixels. It's in the middle because that is where most of the focus/action takes place in any movies and shows. It's one of the colors that has aged and hence the tint towards green instead. It's probably the blue OLED sub layer that has aged and it cannot produce the same light. AKA the uneven aging of the pixels.
Burn in is actually a misnomer and just used colloquially for uneven aging of pixels.
Loss of colour volume.
Yeah my 55" LG C8 has excessive burn in from news banners and PS5 video games. My son's 65" does as well. People talk about, "turn down your brightness", "run the pixel refresher", and this, that and the other thing. I just want to watch television. I don't want baby it. Probably get a QLED next time.
Maybe it’s the heat from the fireplace 😂😂😂
As soon as I saw where the tv in this video is mounted. I was like "huh, no wonder it's having issues". I absolutely loath tv mounted over a fireplace, whether gas or wood burning! Lmfao....
I'm surprised a simple color uniformity test wasn't run. Like the ones available on UA-cam, that transition from color to color. If you got burn in, or some kind of color uniformity issue, that test will definitely bring it out.
Yea lol, it was like "I do this for a living" then 3 minutes in he is like "I can ask my friends who are more technical than me", lost all his credibility real quick
I have had a 65" LG C7 from new and i have had absolutely no issues with it. Still impresses me right up to today. I also purchased a 77" Sony A80J OLED and its great...but out of the box it doesnt have the pop of my old C7.
Great video - nice to see people helping people. I’m actually curious most how those KEFs sound that setup looks pretty slick
Have the same issue on my 4 year old b7 lg oled,reds and greens.1 year warranty so would guess needs a new panel.looking to upgrade to new tv this year but have lg oled improved that much apart from going with a 5 year warranty to cover the cost?.
Hello i have a 55 inch LG cs ..almost like c2..which sound mode you suggest to use ..?
A couple of years back you included some installs & there were helpful. So yes.
I have b7 second panel has burn in so ordered 77 inch c2. Since this is original oled in your opinion does the b9 my other tv one bedroom have less burn in issues then b7.
Enjoyed the video. Great info. I hope my new LG OLED does not crap out early considering the Panasonic plasma it replaced lasted 15 years!!!
I just replaced my Panasonic plasma after 20 years with an lg oled
Would you recommend a Sony Bravia OLED over a Sony Bravia Full Array LED TV? I'm thinking of upgrading to a 65 inch Sony model but am not sure of what to buy except the LED's are cheaper.
We just experienced the same issue, where we get the outline of a person in the center that looks green. Our friend pointed it out, and we could then not unsee it. Shopping for a new tv now. This makes me hesitant to get another OLED, but we love OLED picture. Was good to see it's not a one-off on our 4 year old TV.
New tv looked horrible at first. Had an idiot on the screen! Got much better after that.
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We have an LG OLED (C8) and have experienced burn in. It came from a news banner that is on our morning news (1-2 hours a day). The banner is yellow, and is clearly is burn in as it can be seen during light back grounds.
I just gained a new level of respect for this brother after what he did for his friend!!! That was Dope 👍🏿
You just saved the day😱✌️ great tv and huge and beautiful house,greetings from Scotland😉🏴
Your Channel rocks. Love the install videos.
My dad has a b7 with the exact same issue. Ive read somewhere online that its not burn in but is caused by excessive heat in the panel. Not sure if that is the case though.
Thanks BTI.
I have the same problem with my 5 year old C8, and it's been occurring for a little over a year. I'll just live with it until I replace it next year.
Bless You and the Family
I had an E7 that had the same issue. It seems to happen on certain 2017 models. I feel it’s more of a quality control issue. I have a G7 and that’s been flawless since day one. LG would never admit they had a defective OLED. 😆😆😆
Greatest thing I ever did was a 5 year Geek Squad Protection Plan from Best Buy. They replaced my OLED with another OLED. Thank you Best Buy!🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
I have this exact model and my panel did something simular. I contacted LG and was told the panel was still under warranty even after having it over 4 years.LG replaced the panel at no cost. Back to being beautiful again. This experience had me purchase a new c2 just last week.
Can you help me with that LG contact and what I should say?
Could the problem be caused from having the OLED mounted right above a fireplace?
TVs are engineer to be 5 year products from what I understand. And think about it, extended warranties that are offered on them never go out beyond 5 years.
I work a PT job for a major TV brand selling TVs in a major electronics retailer. I speak to folks every weekend who have TVs that have died after 3-4 years. This is why I have a hard time investing the money into an OLED. I say invest, but it really isn't an investment.
Good video Brandon always nice to see a friend help a friend. Kudos to you buddy.
I have an LG 75SM8670PUA. It started to turn on and off on its own. Sometimes stays on for about 40 min. Then it starts again. On and off . Sometimes it just doesn’t stops doing that. Any recommendations? It’s a 5 year old tv
Fascinating video. I like to learn about all this stuff. I am content with my 48 inch Sony A90K.
Is it possible the "forward leaning" tilt position of the wall mount caused some pressure and "bending" on an otherwise very thin and sensitive oled panel itself ? Like some type of physical damage ?
That's what I was thinking, the entire screen is flexing from that mount point and that is where the problem is on the other side
That’s a great friend right there! Super Bowl Ready 🏈
Dope video. Love the house calls!
I've been noticing virtical banding on my Sony A90J well after the brake in period and even after running the manual pixel refresh is there anything more I can do or do I need to look into having the tv replaced (still under warranty with Best Buy)
Definitely give Best Buy a call so they can get someone to look at it as its under Factory Warranty.
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I'm still happy with the Samsung tv's that I bought. Never let me down, working really proper.
Maybe next year the samsung Oled?
So HOW did you fix the tv? I got the same issue.
Please man its the Heat over winter from he's fire place just below the television that caused it lol !
Great video, Brandon!...Keep the trouble-shooting/client interaction video's coming!
Are you serious? What trouble shooting are you referring to?
I still have my Pioneer Kuro 50" plasma its 15 yrs old, first TV I ever purchased. It's perfect minus 2 red pixels that will pop up every so often but rarely. I've thought about buying the 65in used off Ebay just because
That’s pretty cool you help out your old buddy
My c8 65 has the same issue. It's got light burn in from gaming on the edges. It also has the blob in the middle that like washes out the colours of object right in the middle of the screen. Drives me wild.
I have a c7 and logo from the kids TV has burnt in and test slides look pretty rough now after all this time. Replaced it recently for a c2 in the black Friday sales
I'm saving now for a OLED or QLED Sam's Club has great deal yes balling on budget small studio apartment
YES! Absolutely love videos like this. I've hit a total wall with my 65" Sony A80J. Bought Nov 1, 2021 and a year and 3 months later I've got full blow white and black lines going heavily from the left and then slowly fades out to the middle. I've gone through so many emotions... $2700 CAN is a lot of money and with my health conditions, that was REALLY hard earned money. I didn't buy the $378 extended warranty cause that's a) a lot of extra money, considering Costco offers an extra 2 or 3 for $100 CAN and b) I figured with Sony's reputation of making good TV's, I felt confident that if anything happens, it'll happen within a year... and it basically did but Sony said, "Sorry, not sorry."
Sorry to hear that my friend, I actually bought my A90J Master Series in 2021. I haven’t been able to use my TV or PS5 as I spend more time in Hospital than at home. But I really don't believe in extended warranties thier not worth it. I just hope things go good for you, and as for me my concentration and memory is a miss I mean blank. Cause of the medication I have to take. I guess I will eventually get the settings right, hoping I haven't got a cracked screen, or as you mentioned the lines. Take care Ranay.
Have you tried the "Panel Refresh" option? It says you shouldn't do more than one per year. To find it go to:
1) Settings
2) Display & Sound
3) Expert Panel Settings
4) Panel Refresh
I doubt this will fix your problem as it sounds more like a panel issue, but, at this point, you don't have much to lose.
Hope all works out for you and whatever health issue you have can improve.
Take care!
@Root Beer I did, and I sent it out to a local tv repair company who told me after the inspection that the panel is totally pooched and can't be repaired. I submitted an insurance claim through my visa and am hoping they can reimburse me. Sony told me they won't... so fuck Sony at this point and don't buy an OLED for gaming.
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Sorry to hear it, but with costly items I feel it's better to have an extended warranty and not need it than to need it and not have it. I find places like Best Buy will reduce the cost of the warranty with just a little haggling. My 75" QN88B 4 year extended warranty was reduced about 40%.
We just bought an LG B2 OLED 77 inch. Hope this doesn't happen for a while. Any preventative measures I can do to prevent issues?
Don't watch the same news channel 24/7. Other than that, you can lower the brightness, but then your not getting the full effect of your TV. Also turn off the TV when your not using it. Don't leave it on 24/7 if you aren't watching something.
My 2020 cx lg have burn in pixels after the use for two years and six month and i replace it with TCL Qled Tv . Waiting for Lg to change the screen after I contact them. Finally, if I buy US$1700 Tv shouldn’t be as good as I expected??!
yeh more of these videos will be awesome! Keep up the amazing videos
B loved the video entertaining!!!! Your friend has a great set up!
I have the 65inch B6 LG OLED with bad burn in the early OLEDs suck in terms of reliability
My in-laws' LG OLED (B-series) had the same issue. It was the red pixels not functioning properly after a certain amount of time on the panel. Over time it affected all RGB pixels to some extent. Now the only pixel that functions properly is the white sub-pixel.
I bought a LG E6P and a B6 OLED”s in 2017. TV’s have 6,000 and 12,000 hours. Both screens are shot. Marks are noticeable all over screens, LG offered me 10% off my next LG purchase because my warranty is over. After spending $8,000 on 2 LG OLED TV’s, that were advertised to last over 60,000 -100,000 hours, there offer was not where fair. I most likely will not buy LG again.
@@derekchatterley9003 ... sounds familiar. My in-laws had a B6 if I recall. It was toast in 18 months.
The 6 and 7 series had that unnatural pixel wear. Even extended to the Sony A1E, which used the 2017 LG panel. Haven’t heard of it on the 8-series and up, thankfully.
@@j.rfrazier1855 That's good to hear that it may not extend to newer panels. My in-laws' experience really tarnished my view of OLEDs in general.
Glad I bought mini-led. Great tv with no burn in worries. I actually went this route due to my bright living room.
Nice review keep up the good work B the installer
I just bought a "$500.00 TV" (LG 65" UN9000 - 120Hz native) to replace my burned the hell in LG 55" curved C6. It'll hold me over until July for a big upgrade.
If you bring a TV to house, my wife is a good cook, free supper
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Great video. I had the same lg c7 tv and I just replaced it because of the same thing with the screen. The blob in the center would always make a green/yellowish tint in the picture. I just replaced it with an lg c2.
Do you live in a hot climate or do you leave your TV on all day?
@@lukastemberger I’m in NJ so I wouldn’t say it’s very hot. There are some days that it’s on all day but other times it’s off for days at a time. Nothing was really consistent about it.
@@erinjonathan4273 The main reason for burn in is heat. And the heat accumulates in the center of the TV, that's why these blobs are around the center. It's where the panel electronics are behind it and the heat gets trapped. People who leave their TV on all day should go with an LED TV. Especially if you just leave slideshows on like the guy in the video. OLED has an advantage of giving you the best critical picture quality in movies and shows and LED has the advantage of being a good picture slideshow frame :)
I used the hell out of my TV on all the time gaming I could never be mad about my burning but it was only because of the gaming it wasn't for that I could have had it on as much as I wanted I don't think I would have had to burn it never noticed anything that wasn't from gaming. I hope you bought from Best buy and became the Best buy member cuz no matter what happens you'll be covered 5 years from now long as you keep that coverage and all you got to do is pay a service fee to get that model that's going to be newer
Sounds like a good deed to do.. ❤
Thank you very much for the Video, I have the same problem here in Germany with a 2018 LG Panel - also 65" - it was exact 3,5 years but a lot of hour watching - now I have a Samsung QN95A 75" never again OLED - just burned money ... black is also very good at Samsung and HDR is more than double bright
What if this great led will broke in next 2-3 years.
@@kristof46 we have 2 years warranty here in Germany, then I will buy a electronic insurance.
my B7 did the same thing its red pixels fading - once you pull up a full red screen you can see it clear as day.
I bought my 65 LG C7 when it came out and about 6 months ago I noticed signs of burn in from watching sky sports news and it's getting worse every single week, even the mute symbol has burn in that goes up and down the entire right hand side of the TV. So it's lasted a good amount of time.
I,have same tv with same problem lg and sony need upgrade they panels in way better one otherwise better to stay with qled or something
Static images will burn into an OLED, logos fall in that category especially if you're watching the same thing every day for hours
@@jaeblack4752 Absolutely it will do. Luckily for myself i watch various different content which is why it's lasted how long it has before getting burn in.
@@yournightmare9999 They did. The CX and onward use a new chemical layer that effectively doubles to triples its resiliency.
I bought a lg c7 2 years ago. The total usage was around 5000 hours. Shelf life is around 70,000 hours. it had the same issue but worse. Super noticeable when yellow, green, red and brown appear on screen. Also had burning from NBA 2k scoreboards. I'm never buying an oled after see that. Same thing happened on a friend's c8. Love the picture quality but oled burn In is real.
Yep same thing happened to me. Green coloration in the middle of the screen and NBA2K logo burn-in on the lower left corner
2k burn in is real 😅. But it's the right corner not left. Had burn in on my first oled b7 I had it fixed it happend again in months just got used to it little annoying but wasn't crazy just replaced after 5 plus years left will with a C2 for 1099 for the burn in but more for the 120 vrr, but got my protection from Best buy as long as I renew it every year I'm covered 8 years in as much money is going to buy a new TV but end of the day when I got to do is swap it in and pay that fee and I'm covered never point to spend such money on a piece of equipment knowing the issues that they have and not putting the insurance on to work for the investment because my next TV ain't going to cost me nothing but the service fee and most likely it'll be a newer model cuz it's going to be 3:45 years later I think it's worth it is that too mention anything I purchase from here or now is also covered
@@MBD91286 hey how did you get it fixed?
Should i go with X90K 65inches or A80K 65 inches....please help..
How long i can expect them to be durable...
@vi8tboy Got X90K 65inhes
A resounding yes... bring it!
Same thing happened to my 2017 C7 looks like the same model..crazy thing is it’s my bedroom TV and I don’t use it nowhere near as much as I use the TV in the living room
Buddies making some solid points… this is why I switched from Samsung to Sony..2 years in on my Sony oled and it’s running mint.
Have a CX in the Livingroom replaced my C7 which has been in the master bedroom and knock on wood no issues both TV's working beautiful. CX HDMI came loose so I replaced the board but solder in HDMI in old board and working flawless . Replace your friends C7 with a board from EBAY for $100 and like brand new good to go .
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I like these kind of video's. Have you looked at other kinds of Laser Short Throw Projectors, such as the Vava, Optoma, or Epsom EH-LS 100?
Excellent video Brian! You might want to mic the client too so we can hear better what he’s saying. But I love these kinds of videos. :)
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Are the audio equipment near or behind the panel? That greenish color is evident when certain audio equipment are installed to the rear or sides of the panel is the audio equipment are non shielded. Tv's have shielded speakers which is why it does not affect the tv itself.
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if u were in houston, i would hire u immediately. u do great work
Had the c7. Exact same issue 100%
Out of warranty but LG replaced the panel thankfully
LG Oled burn is often caused by the T.Con board storing info , on many lg oleds if you display the picture scene installed it wont show and burn or issues, as the screen in most instances is fine, you cant just swap a t.con baord for a new one as they are pre-programmed with each screen, if you swap a t.con board it will just display the bad image in a different area, we bought a maching from LG to run a programme through the t.con and screen to remove screen storage issues but so far it hasnt been able to run as it should and LG wont support it anymore, we are a tv repair engineer co for a large insurance company and see these screen issues every day, shocking that tv manufacturers get away with this.
"*Not my cable management" 🤣🤣
I used my LG c9 65" as a PC monitor for two years and it got weird burn in and image uniformity issues. It was a big expense for me and the whole experience ruined OLED for me; I don't have the income to spend $2k+ more frequently than once every 5-10 years on a TV. I am back on all QLED displays until micro-LED becomes affordable. I refuse to invest in OLEDs again.
any difference from oled to qled? How is your experience if you compare them?
@@abeidsalim8008 well i got alienware nonitor and 3d lg oled. Well image is better in every way on qd oled but thats years of tech difference.
Is there notable difference between oled and your current Qled tv bro ?
@@abeidsalim8008QLED can't achieve perfect blacks and typically has a level of blooming around bright objects. QLED however can get brighter and SDR content is much brighter.
@@Muhayyo666 oleds have better blacks and better response times oleds are the best looking TVs on the market they just have the biggest flaw as well which is burn in
Incredibly timely video! I'll add to the chorus that I have the exact same issue. My E6 starting showing this a few months ago. First noticed it when watching The Simpsons: their yellow skin color made it jump out. I changed my PC's background to that color (Hex #f8db27, RGB (248,219,39)) and it revealed that not only was there "The Splotch" in the center of the screen, but some burn in where red was previously prominent. The MOST prominent was where the read UA-cam logo sits on ther google tv interface. I hate to give up this TV (it was the last, best TV for 3D), but I can't unsee it, so it's gotta go. Waiting for you all to review the Samsung S95C 77" to determine if that's the route I want to go (also considering Hisense U8 or UX). Oh, and yes, this type of video is great! More please.
Lol. Yes Simpsons was worst case. I almost mentioned it too in my comment about the same issue.
Do you live in a hot climate and leave your TV on all day as well, like this guy?
Right above fireplace at that angle? Possibly related?
I have a samsung 40" that I bought in 2009 that gets burn in when I leave it on a screen for to long but it does clear up overtime. It still gives a beautiful picture and I have a 50" Magnavox that I bought in 2016, gives a beautiful picture, both of these TVs are 1080p and I am going to keep them until they stop working! I hope I did not jinx myself with this post!!!
These TV manufacturers out here scamming us my Samsung QLED crapped out on me early as well.
Great video, please add more videos of this nature..however sorry I have to say that tv at that height and angle 😮…your friend has an amazing home ..is that the only option for him?
Those speakers are crazy, but can’t imagine your getting any decent dynamics, esp. in the lower range, but those bad boys sure look cool.
That's why you add a SUB.
I had my LG do the samething in the same spot.. It was driving me crazy.. Only had the LG for 4 years..(B-Series)
Mine lasted 1 and a half years. Same tv as yours and same green blob when it’s yellow
Exact same thing with mine
Ur Quiz does not look like the A80K as recommended for me when I already bought the A80K, what was recommended was the Sony X95k 75". I bought it on Dec 27th, 2022 along with the HT-A5000 sound bar and rear speakers I am having issues with the sound off and on. Best Buy installed and Set it up, and with the extra headset, I got they plugged it into the center speaker plugs in the back of the TV where the plug is designed for the center speaker for the HT-5000. Well, each time when I switch to the center speaker to use my headset it has issues when I go back to the Audio system setting. the first time it did not stick to the audio system. 2nd time I used it now it seems to split up where my TV remote cannot turn the volume up or turn the TV off. Same thing with my Comcast TV remote. Always have to use the Sony remote to turn off the Soundbar and the TV remote to turn off the TV. Do you have any suggestions on what to do? I tried everything I could think of. Do you know of any others sharing sound issues?
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I tested this green hue on a yellow picture on both my 65 E7 and 77 C2, the C2 is less than 30 hours, and they both show this green hue on yellow. And no, I don't see significant burn in on the E7. I watch in Dolby vision dark or dark mode so it doesn't push too much brightness to the pixels, oled lighting is 50 or lower.
My parents had the green blob on their c7 and lg replaced the panel no charge
9,952 Hours On My LG CX Still Great Picture
Love the cap.
I have a 55 C9 with more than 12,000 hours on it. I bought it at Costco with seven years of warranty coverage three different warranties. Hopefully I’ll never use them but I put a lot of hours on the TV. I don’t think it’ll make it seven years but we’ll see.
Wow, some horror stories in the comments - I’m 3 months into owning a Panasonic LZ2000 (I’m in the U.K. ) hope I don’t run into these issues down the line….the only thing that makes me feel a little better is that it did come with a 6 year warranty. Incidentally, both of the TV’s I had before this one, both Panasonic plasmas still work perfectly. One is 10 years old, and the other is almost 16 years old. I suppose they don’t make them like they used to.
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My LGC1 is amazing for my gaming needs, but I’m always worried about burn in issues. I try to use it just for gaming, and I use my monitor for other content.
Be careful with gaming too. If you play the same games for an extended period of time, the UI will eventually burn into the screen. I've had it happen to me which is why I'm skipping OLED next time I buy a TV.
@@dckillarobo Yes, I switch screens size, hud and some settings to avoid something being on the same part of the screen for too long.
I had the same burn in with a C7, I'm pretty sure LG figure it out with the X version.
I have the same problem with an LG oled 3d curved TV before the 4k tvs arrived. I was getting the green tint on people's faces but not all the time, I thought it mite of been the lighting used in the broadcasting not sure but it's strange.
got lg oled 3D curved tv got screen burn too not happy not sure want kind of tv to but next
@Glenn Pfistner yes mine has screen burn too. I think the newer versions are a lot better now with screen shift & pixel refreshing but you still should be aware of screen burn as long you don't watch the same things with banners & logos like news channels for long periods of time, other than that you should be fine
I prefer large speakers I would like tvs to have a wider aspect ratio then 16:9 I think we are starting to hit the ceiling for picture quality 4K 8k resolution other etc etc all is left is wider aspect ratios to keep people buying
I like these kind of videos
I have a E6. It's had 3 panels because of screen burn. The first time, yes I watched a lot of news channels (especially SKY News) Their yellow breaking news sign burned into the screen, showing up on certain colours, like red. The second panel, I barely watched ANY news channels and still got screen burn/retention. The third and final panel has burn in now too. LG are still trying to suggest that we (there are MANY of us) are watching our TV's wrong! LOL. Also people saying "it works fine with normal use" make me want to scream! As much as I love OLED screens (when they are working) I'm too scared to take the risk with my next purchase.
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Positioning a tv like that is likely the cause as that should be illegal. What is it with TV's above fireplaces?
My 65 inch 4 year old Panasonic oled has just started doing the same thing. Absolutely gutted!!! Like your friend my mum has my old plasma and it's still going. Have e-mailed Panasonic NZ and was told to check for updates and do a reset then get a technician if they didn't work. Update and reset did nothing so going down the technician route. Interesting that your friends LG and my Panasonic both doing the same thing at about the same age! As I understand it the panels all come from LG. Maybe a bad batch?