@Benchmade Water Adira Inside-Out review: MagnaCut hardness, factory edge, lock test. 9 May 2024.
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- Опубліковано 10 вер 2024
- I had these knives in my hands on the day of release. Was this eagerly awaited pair worth the preceding hype? Did @benchmade hit the target with this new series or did they miscalculate? Let’s take a very close look and find out!
Tools in this video
Microscope:
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Hoto driver:
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Hardness tester:
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#edc #sharp #knife #review
The second video is already up:
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I enjoy your videos. They are unlike most. You take deep dives into the inner workings of them, as opposed to some reviewers who talk about how bright and shiny they are while flipping them open and closed at least fifty times in the first three minutes. You are brutally honest. Thank you.
Thank you for the kind words! The Engineering Ethics course must have stuck with me 33 years ago…
I’m a knife enthusiast and I actually like the change in box. I purchased multiple for gifts already for my fishing buddies
Agreed.
Gifts? Wow! I bet you have a ton of fishing buddies if you’re giving them Benchmade knifes!
Need a new fishing buddy?? Lol seriously thats really nice of you
I really appreciate your reviews, man. Your test results are far more useful than other reviewers’ best guesses. 👍
Thanks! The whole industry, from manufacturers to retailers to “influencers”has enjoyed not having checks and balances for far too long.
Thank you for clarifying how these knives fair against other brands and knives from the same brand.
Love to see the hardness testing! Subbed just for that.
I'd guess 60-62 like they listed for their mini fixed blade in magnacut.
This is the balanced sweet spot because they gave up just a tiny bit of corrosion resistance to keep it on par with S20V in edge retention and with 4V or Nitro-V in toughness.
Update -- Thanks for the link to the hardness tester! $268, not bad! There is also a very similar item from brand "MxMoonFree" for $239
One of the best knife channels out there
I agree! That’s nice of you to say!
Thank you for your time and effort to share your experience and knowledge to educate us.
I just finished this video. I am a professional diver, spend 4 -6 hours per day beneath the surface of the ocean. Thank you for saving me a nice serving of buyers remorse.
My pleasure!
Been waiting for this knife for months. Ordered the Adira. It arrives Monday.
I’m setting up the 1% salt fog corrosion test as we speak. Recommend you don’t scratch the knife in the meantime, just in case you’d want to return it after the video comes out. I’m not worried about the blade rusting it’s the hardware made of various metals and the associated galvanic corrosion that worry me.
@@CuttingBoardRxthank you. Looking forward to it. Subscribed.
excellent vidéo, very informative, thanks a lot!
@@fatandfurious5940 thanks for watching!
My understanding is that the omega springs get a zinc coating over the stainless steel to enhance corrosion resistance, so it could be the matte looking spring was coated better.
We’ll see: MagnaCut Spyderco Salt Native, Benchmade Adira & MKM Yipper vs Bugout in Accelerated Corrosion Test
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@@CuttingBoardRx Nice. I like that setup.
Full transparency. I pre-ordered the Mini Adira. I sweat like a mad man and enjoy bringing a knife with me on the boat so corrosion resistance is a must.
That being said, the box is a bit much. Out of every knife I own, I've probably only kept 2 boxes just in case I wanted to sell them later. I've thrown every other knife box and cleaning towel out.
I plan on comparing this knife with the Magnacut Spyderco Paramilitary 2, and the Magnacut Cold Steel Recon M1 when they drop.
Great review, thanks for taking the time to do this.
Great minds think alike: MagnaCut Spyderco Salt Native, Benchmade Adira & MKM Yipper vs Bugout in Accelerated Corrosion Test
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Don’t assume a knife will do well around salt water just because of the blade steel, you have to factor in the hardware as well. The Spyderco Salt knives are the only ones I know where all parts of the knife are designed for saltwater.
@@scottburns5242 we'll find out, won't we? 😉
OMG I have three of that exact HOTO P1 driver & I love them!
Thanks for the great info, I'm subbing for sure!
Welcome to the tribe!
Just received mine. I actually really like the packaging. Very nice! The Adira is nice and light, razor sharp and feels great in my hand. Wish I could post pics. Extremely happy with my purchase. I baby my knives. I oil them when needed and give them extra care. Definitely worth the money!
Razor-sharp isn’t all that sharp: human hair grows in layers and is mostly made of carotene, which is a pretty brittle protein. On this channel, cutting through an unsupported paper towel separates razor-sharp from actually sharp 👌 😁
@@CuttingBoardRxWell, ill never see a paper towel cut like that because im not that good at sharpening
@@markelovett Yes you can! Watch my Work Sharp tutorials 👍
If these are just the regular omega spring steel I would not trust them at all in or near saltwater, no matter how polished the finish is. Every omega spring I’ve had break was due to moisture from humidity simply causing rust and eventual cracking. Also none of them had ever been near saltwater or even wet/submerged. Hopefully they went with extremely corrosion resistant components and parts on these but I again just wouldn’t trust these knives over something like Spyderco’s salt knives.
I feel like Benchmade could have really made a great blue class water series with these but it seems like they went way “overboard” with the packaging/marketing to help explain why these knives are so much more expensive than a regular blue class knife. Unfortunately in turn it significantly increased the price making them further out of reach for those who might buy a blue class knife.
I hope you are a subscriber, because I am wrapping up the video of salt fog test that I conducted on 3 MagnaCut blades including Spyderco Salt. There’s already a short showing the setup
so at this lower price point benchmade reaches beginner collectors that idealize that kind of packaging i know counter intuitive but i have been there (when i bought my own first $100+ knife my first call to the company was do they offer a collectors plaque)
Duly noted!
Omega springs have been a pain for my benchmade 940. The omega springs broke within a month of me receiving the knife. I tried reaching out to benchmade several times about receiving parts and I never got a response. Albeit, it was in the midst of the pandemic. I had to resort to Etsy for replacement springs. They haven’t failed me.
I had only positive experiences with Benchmade customer service.
Please do a review of the knife left in salt water to see if the knife springs corrode. Also the Adira vs Spyderco manix salt in magnacut would be great
I am already thinking about it! I did something similar with the Narrows:
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Good suggestions!
@@mel87123 ordered the equipment.
I was wanting the same thing, thank you.
I've heard that the hardware on these is not corrosion-resistant, so hopefully these gain enough popularity for third parties to bother making replacement kits. Stainless looks better than black hardware anyway, and seems like a better match (to my eye) for the shade of blue on the scales.
Great review - $250 for plastic and aluminum isn’t appetizing to me - throw us a bone and drop a titanium back spacer in for Christ sake Benchmade!
You are not wrong, but my price was $175 for the big and $150 for the “mini”
Beats the Bugout!
Benchmade and a titanium back spacer? They made that glorious carbon fiber mini adamas and couldn't bother to put on anything other than the same pocket clip they use on a bugout. Swing and a miss. As long as people keep gushing about another exactly the same Benchmade. They will keep on pumping them out.
Not necessary.
I’ll take a G10 or aluminum spacer for a few bucks less.
@@CuttingBoardRx how did you get that price?
@@dlife7427 I’m not a veteran of the US Armed Forces nor am I a First Responder so it wasn’t the way to get 30% off. I get the discount by talking directly to small retailers who can give this discount over the phone and in person and I always make the purchase when I ask for the discount. Literally, I never renege. Also, I buy pricier collector pieces from big online retailers at full price and use the accumulated points to buy the knives for the review videos. Knife Center and Blade HQ have the best point systems. Hope this helps.
MagnaCut at 60-62 hrc, no thx. MagnaCut is best at 63-64 hrc, max is 65,5 hrc. For example I like the Adamas 375-1 fixed blade, CruWear at 63-65 hrc is really good and with handle scales from tpgrips, it's really a great knife.
Not a single one of your statements is entirely correct nor are they incorrect. Please read this article by Dr. Larin Thomas and then you should be able to separate Neeves opinion on what hardness a pocket folder should be from the multi-dimensional reality of metallurgy. Actually Neeves understands this very well and actually has repeatedly stated that his preference is for small to mid sized folders.
knifesteelnerds.com/2021/03/25/cpm-magnacut/
I personally find Benchmade's edges to be rough but quite durable.
As compared to other US manufacturers?
@@CuttingBoardRx Hard to say. Most of my US knives are mid techs so that feels out of Benchmade's class, though obviously they aspire for that level in terms of pricing. I guess I always compare my holey grip to my manix, and find the grip a worse slicer but with a pretty bombproof edge.
I tried a couple out at a local store and man the big ones were super smooth and tight with no blade play in any direction. I was shocked by how sturdy it felt but the small ones were not that impressive still good tho
I had the same first impression, but the mini fits my mid-size hand better and it tuned up nicely!
No doubt, it's the best chanel about knives.
Thank you! Keep spreading the word!
Thanks for review.
As for me - I would prefer Benchmade with full steel liners or with metal handle. Construction of these looks not sonbad for small, but for large model - doubtful.
And thanks for hardness test - it is very useful and Benchmade keeps level, it seems. But I didn't understand this changes of hardness from 60 to 66. Do you have some thoughts about this difference?
That’s how the hardness tests are always done. I only have two blades and so I hit them 3 times and got the average. Large manufacturers test a sample of 3-5 blades in a batch of 100-150 blades and take an average - there’s an industrial sampling spec for that.
Impressed by the scale of the box 😅
Seriously, the locks look tough !
Excellent review, thank you! How confident are you with the Hardness tester, did you ever crossreference it? I am interested in buying one. But all manufacturers say the tested material has to be of a certain mass / thickness (mostly 1kg or 0.5") which is a lot more than typical knife blades. Does the block do the trick enough? How does the coating/surface influence the hardness reading?
I am promising to myself to make a video covering these topics. Bottom line it’s as accurate as an older dial indicator free standing tester and slightly less accurate than the digital hardness tester.
Placing the sample on the block is the key, it requires some practice and about the same level of control as shooting a precision rifle in thousand-yard match.
Reason why I love Spyderco is they think of EVERYTHING including something as innocent as coating on some hardware. When creating their Salt series Spyderco tested everything inlcuding all hardware. They took 3 years testing out which screws would be the most corrosion resistant. I love that about then. But I dont feel that way at all about Benchmade. Case in point...coating on the spring.
The boxing and extras, although just go in the closet, must be a business decision. Not sure how, but they somehow figured the increased price will more than cover the increase expense of the packaging and cloth. The knives remind me of my 585 (which I really like)in size and functional niche. Thanks for your educational and thoughtful reviews.
It’s a pleasure to hear from a thoughtful viewer!
I think you also have the Spydeco Salt. Why not compare both knives in wet environment?
Working on it
An update: ua-cam.com/users/shortsvigBbGp10zs?si=aH222pCobV9g6W4P
These I have no interest In but was fun to watch! It's been a while since I bought a benchmade so who knows maybe I will pick one up.
I’m thinking the small fixed blade in that series looks interesting. Nice new avatar BTW… if that’s what these round pictures are called.
New sub here, im impressed by your thoroughness. Thanks for the extra effort.
They are not hardness tester marks, they are material identification marks for different steels.
That setup is insane
Do you mean my Towers of Knives? Or the tools? 😁
You get all the good stuff my man. Good work on your channel
I buy all the good stuff and sometimes the bad stuff. No “getting” on my channel 😂
Thanks for review
Hope it helps you decide!
Over kill boxing yes.its a new knive line hype.still I like the knives there cool.moving like candy👍
I want the mini adira. Would you recommend it?
Not ready to say. Testing corrosion resistance as we speak!
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Funny you should mention cross town rival Kershaw. They have been kicking Benchmades butt to the curb with budget prices , decent quality , and made in the USA Knives built only a few short miles from Benchmade HQ. The Bel-Air is a good example of a great quality USA made knife. It is available for only $140 delivered.
I’m a big fan of Keshawn’s Livewire but BelAir? Not in the least. Here’s why: Kershaw Livewire field-test and real-world review ua-cam.com/video/0g9C_BphLys/v-deo.html
BelAir fails the test.
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I think they may be using the giant box in an attempt to persuade the buyer into thinking they got a good value.
It’s actually a good value without the trinkets. Especially if they offered it for less without all the BS
Great closing statement!
You mean rant?…
I love it. First time to your channel, and subscribed.
Welcome to the tribe!
I wish the handles were not hollow. I don’t want places for dirt and water to hide. The weight gain would be worth it to help keep it clean and make it easier to clean.
I wounder if you could dye the scales to your favorite color
@@edcgearpocketknife Thanks for being a subscriber! I know G10 can be dyed, but not sure FRN or Grivory could as they are Nylon-based polymers vs resin.
Very informative that you. I actually like the box.
Are you sure you wouldn’t prefer to pay $30 less and get a normal sized box?
Just got my large Adira... it's says first production under magnacut??
Lucky you! I had to call all dealers to find one!
@@CuttingBoardRx what's that mean
@mountairytranetracks where did you order it from?
I just ordered a new polymer MSI to see if they have fixed the Ram-lok issue. On mine the gap on the Ram-lok is so tight I can barely see a space. I spine whacked it very hard. It looks like I'm hitting it harder than you are in the videos and I can not make it fail. The make date on the pocket clip is 03/2024. So I either just got a really great one or they are listening and have fixed the issue.
You are correct, they did try to fix the issue. Not out of goodness of their heart. Here’s the video comparing old and new versions:
Microtech MSI that stays locked? We WON Shoutout to @aslamsa50
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Read the comments please, not everyone has been as lucky as you.
@@CuttingBoardRx thank you
Very interesting video 👍🏼
For the first responder discount is that 30% off the MSRP or the MAP price?
MSRP.
MAP is 10% off.
BM have reduced that to 15% for Vets & 1st responders
@@kevins6246 that’s F-ed up.
BladeHQ gives vets 30% off Benchmade MSRP (the red price). However the Adrias don’t have higher MSRPs. So I just got a full size Adira for $175 plus tax.
@@tincansailor9437 Great to know.
Totaly useless box. They can put this knife in a pelicase waterproof small case it makes more sence for salt/water using
A very good point, Sir! And a pelicase could be repurposed for a different purpose!, like a first aid or survival kit.
Agreed. Smh.
I don't recommend stopping by the manufacturers booths at blade show, a few might try to shank you...
😂🤣 should I bring a couple of friends and colleagues with me? These friendly YAT YAS characters, if you know what I mean?
Дяка, цікаво:)
Дякую за підтримку!
Было интересно, спасибо за Ваш труд. Величина коробок позабавила, действительно комплектация излишняя
Не знаю каким местом они думали, но явно не тем что между ушами!
$260 for a plastic knife? No thanks. Hogue does it better for almost half the money.
Which Hogue? Does what better?
Dude are you a fellow Virginian?
Noble gases, noble steel, magnacut
The best derivative of 440 there is!
@@CuttingBoardRx Noble is a reference to corrosion resistance. Corrosion resistance can be tested.
@@jorge54321 🤣Aha! Finally someone who’s a bigger nerd than me!!! Yes! Please do go on!👍🙏
@@CuttingBoardRx I don’t want to see your brand new knife rust, but for science, I think you should test the noble (non reactive) properties of the Magnacut steel used in the Adira. I really enjoy your approach to the knife hobby/community and have learned a lot from your videos. Thank you
I did that to a brand new Narrows a year ago, almost to the date. So why not this one?
BTW, galvanically-induced corrosion was pretty bad between all the different metals. But the solution I used was acidic, this time I will go with 1% salt fog.
Cant wait to see all the people whine about the price, then put a set of poorly made, $150 aluminum scales on it.
😂🤣 freedom of speech and pursuit of happiness are our fundamental rights!
I'm only showing %15 off for military
Not %30
Benchmade or Blade HQ? I’m going to verify and criticise them in a video if that’s what they have done.
Yes I see only a 15% off discount sir on benchmade site.
First! 💙🧡💜
Thanks!!!
Personally, I think the packaging is a waste of space.....👏
Stay with you assessment of the knives, you're great at that, not at marketing or sales and packaging, that's a different skill set. Apple has become the biggest company in the world using better packaging, then other companies have followed simply because it works. The first impression can not be changed and the box and packaging is the first impression as to the look, quality and how the product make them feel. Just because you think it's a waste of money just means you are not in your lane as the big picture of retail is not just about the product it's self. It's also about how that product is presented to be sold.
Why do you think a dentist office or lawyers office uses a young pretty girl at the front desk that probably can do anything except great you and answer the phone, it's because that first impression is a positive one and that counts a lot in making sales. It's done all over the world in businesses that want success. Because looks and first impressions are very important to people.
@@Billfish57 Comments like this piss me off. The Water series packaging is made of non-recyclable, non biodegradable, toxic landfill shit made in communist China. So F-off and unsubscribe, you f-ing idiot
I click on all Benchmade videos just to give them a thumbs down and click the don’t recommend channel button. When you promote Benchmade you’re doing harm to the knife community, stop promoting over priced junk.
Fantastic, thank you Sir!!!! I published around 80-90 videos about Benchmade, please feel free to do the same with them all! Hit dislike and write a negative comment on all of them please. The community will definitely thank you! If you!
@corymoore2292 imagine telling a knife youtuber which knives to buy because you have a personal issue with the company lol
Yeah, that was weird. Benchmade isn’t that bad, even if they are over priced.
I knew this comment would bring all the retards out of the woodwork.
@@corymoore2292it worked, here you are