Mr Olympia 2007 Screwjob - Victor Martinez Got Robbed!

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  • Опубліковано 19 жов 2016
  • Only one question was asked that day: how in the blue hell did Jay "I can't believe it's not butter" Cutler walk away with the victory here?!?
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  • @tfeating
    @tfeating 7 років тому +467

    For me. biggest robbery was 97 Mr.Olympia
    Nasser Vs Dorian without bicep.

    • @Tomn8er
      @Tomn8er  7 років тому +122

      Oh yeah another horrible call I'll be revisiting that one too ;)

    • @tfeating
      @tfeating 7 років тому +18

      Tomn8er Yep. That was the most
      horrible... History

    • @menknurlan
      @menknurlan 7 років тому +26

      Imo levrone should've taken the sandow that year. He looked WAY better than Dorian no bicep.

    • @stannjob
      @stannjob 7 років тому +14

      Train for Eating NOPE! even with 1 biceps he overshadowed Nasser and everyone, UNIQUE CONDITION! thats Dorian... Dorian just destroyed his arms so he could get the best back in history.

    • @ursine82
      @ursine82 6 років тому +41

      worst one by far is franco 81 with gyno and no legs imho. But certainly 97 as well. Shameful display.

  • @MrMcGee-wv2mi
    @MrMcGee-wv2mi 6 років тому +441

    Jay won because he didnt lack hair.

    • @mustafahaider8399
      @mustafahaider8399 5 років тому +11

      Mr. McGee so what about Ronnie "bald & gut" Coleman? 😂

    • @freddy-hy9vf
      @freddy-hy9vf 4 роки тому +4

      @Kort Latimore cuz u missed the joke

    • @steelboy2593
      @steelboy2593 4 роки тому

      xd

    • @DavidBro-vz2zi
      @DavidBro-vz2zi 3 роки тому +2

      I really hate that headshaved body builders. They look like criminals so scary

    • @rykercamden9155
      @rykercamden9155 3 роки тому +1

      I know Im pretty off topic but does anybody know a good place to watch new movies online ?

  • @apn3117
    @apn3117 5 років тому +180

    ”old dude in the background” That’s Ben Wieder fam

    • @ryutenmen
      @ryutenmen 5 років тому +11

      Yeah one of the two founder fathers of IFBB.

    • @SalahEd25
      @SalahEd25 3 роки тому +34

      Well isn't he an old dude ? 😆

    • @warrenbuffet1910
      @warrenbuffet1910 3 роки тому +3

      @@SalahEd25 hes dead sadly

    • @MrXennon1
      @MrXennon1 2 роки тому +6

      @@warrenbuffet1910 that’s irrelevant, at the time he wasn’t and was in fact old

    • @MrXennon1
      @MrXennon1 2 роки тому +3

      @@Jwask23 no he’s not? You’re referring to the first comment I assume, which isn’t the comment I replied to. Get your head out of your ass

  • @alterego9618
    @alterego9618 2 роки тому +45

    I remember when this happened and I felt so bad for Victor

  • @Tyler1330
    @Tyler1330 4 роки тому +29

    100% agree this was Victor's show and Dexter wasn't far behind. Happy Dexter got the nod he earned the following year. Sadly Victor didn't get the win he deserved in 07!!

  • @bantersaurusrex1202
    @bantersaurusrex1202 5 років тому +54

    Ronnies right side wins this show!

  • @Wikingking
    @Wikingking 5 років тому +38

    Always fun to re-watch your old stuff :) Damn, this was Jay Butter instead of Cutler :D But credit has to be given where it is due: his back double bicep (at least from the waist above) murders the others. It looks like as if he would have had 20 pounds of additional muscle just on his back compared to the rest - even Ronnie. Crazy density. His glutes and hams were soft as a baby's though.
    Also, Dex really peaked between 07-09 and he was screwed of a silver medal at least in 2 occasions (here and in 09). He was SHARP and ready to take advantage of any situation, any of the big guys coming in 90% or below. He couldn't defeat politics though...

  • @petershenouda4010
    @petershenouda4010 3 роки тому +21

    This really screwed with Victor's mindset - he was never the same after this.. he clearly deserved to win...

  • @bio-plasmictoad5311
    @bio-plasmictoad5311 5 років тому +20

    Geez, Ronnies left side really melted away from damage didn't it. Wonder why he even attempted to compete. Same with Dorian as well though when he competed injerd they don't know when to quit.

    • @reddevil6585
      @reddevil6585 Рік тому

      Money & sponsorships
      Didn’t know what to do with himself

  • @lazur1
    @lazur1 5 років тому +9

    Dex's conditioning's so good he became the only man w/high lats to win the O.

  • @Fefaslima26
    @Fefaslima26 6 років тому +15

    If you can just hold on and listen, you’ll see how fair this guy is on his commentaries.

  • @Palrath1
    @Palrath1 6 років тому +36

    imo this year should have ONLY been between Dex and Victor. Dex has been screwed over so many times even tho he's been the tightest most symmetrical builder on the circuit

    • @cpnstbn1266
      @cpnstbn1266 6 років тому

      Victors biceps pop out way further than his shoulders. Unacceptable proportions. Also they didnt work out their calves, Jay did. Personally I don't get why everyone is saying Dex, victor were better.

    • @Palrath1
      @Palrath1 6 років тому

      Striations, conditioning > pure mass.

    • @ArMiNiSfUCkinRedicK
      @ArMiNiSfUCkinRedicK 4 роки тому

      Its because dexter shorter so he appears smaller then all them...its bullshit...hes always the best conditioned....but victor looks so big and conditioned he def deserves the w in this one

    • @dublbude
      @dublbude 2 роки тому

      Yep, Dexter won!

  • @gtnetwork2828
    @gtnetwork2828 7 років тому +70

    Honestly, people are always saying that victor should have won this year, but it srather equal between him and dexter according to theses pictures.

    • @Dahblackrussian
      @Dahblackrussian 7 років тому +1

      Donald Trump no calves

    • @Tain950
      @Tain950 6 років тому +10

      Pictures don't really tell the whole story

    • @Blazin_Tundra
      @Blazin_Tundra 6 років тому +1

      abcfitness Ronnie’s calves were small af relatively speaking

    • @thomasbeach498
      @thomasbeach498 4 роки тому

      Jake Martinez I know. Wtf. Dexter is great yes but Victor won soooooo obviously I don’t get how the Ifbb could give it to jay even for politics. If there shady at least go well guys if we give it to jay it’s going to be is ridiculous people will riot lol. It’s fucked. Jay actually looked awful. When talking about his leg size to Dennis. Wolfs legs were more shredded by a mile and so obviously bigger. Wtf. Look at the pic where the video ends and he raises his arm with an awkward face. His legs look so downsized. I have no interest in the me Olympia anymore and Havnt got time. Politics. Something needs to change or hoping the rocks new show or whatever the rumour is. I could rent all night. I competed as a full time athlete at the highest level in my sport of grappling. I’ve been given a decision I know I lost and went to guy after and his team and said sorry guys that was bullshit. Its happened to me where guys came to me to apologize after to show some class. Where’s jays class. He knows of course. Egomaniac.

  • @lazur1
    @lazur1 5 років тому +68

    Yes, Ronnie's damaged goods here, but you can still see the structure that made him the 8-time winner.

    • @fender1000100
      @fender1000100 4 роки тому +3

      He had crap calfs. Nobody with calves like that should win one Olympia let alone 8.

    • @usmilitary280
      @usmilitary280 3 роки тому +9

      @@fender1000100 the abs always looked so bad to me bad then when I saw his most muscular I was just left astonished by his monstrous mass and shape.

    • @DruiD.aprime
      @DruiD.aprime 3 роки тому +5

      @M B he had 22 inch calves, but his calves were short and never looked good.

    • @carvedfromlife8949
      @carvedfromlife8949 3 роки тому +1

      @@usmilitary280 I agree, I always hated Ronnie's midsection.Just thought it looked weird n blown out. Thought he looked better the first year or 2 he won. After he just looked big but not overall better than everyone he was beating. Rigged ass shows.

    • @samraizshoaib585
      @samraizshoaib585 3 роки тому +3

      @@fender1000100 Every pro has atleast one weak body part or weakness. Except maybe Phil but he was and is narrow.
      Dorian had bad arms.
      Cutler didn't have a good back.

  • @heruking4391
    @heruking4391 5 днів тому +1

    Victor Martinez won the 2007 Mr. Olympia.

  • @debajyotinath5021
    @debajyotinath5021 6 років тому +7

    Cutler has also been robbed earlier, the key is to keep challenging the champion again and again. Victor Martinez should have brought this kind of physique more times in Olympia. It takes time to dethrone a reigning champ. And almost all multiple Olympia owners have won once or twice, that they did not deserve to win.....be it Arnold, Ronnie, Jay .....

    • @Vic00-rc6bd
      @Vic00-rc6bd 10 місяців тому

      80 Olympia...lol

    • @Mmmm-lx9vb
      @Mmmm-lx9vb 9 місяців тому

      Except thats not how it should work and the rules dont state that. The competition is there to crown the best physique that year, not getting the title because of favoritism even though you looked clearly better goes against ifbb rules. I can agree with a system that if everything else is tied, you favor the champ but that was not happening here AT ALL. Victor was the clearly better bodybuilder and deserved the title

    • @debajyotinath5021
      @debajyotinath5021 9 місяців тому

      @@Mmmm-lx9vb There have been many such instances where the best physique that people (like us) thought, did not win. And it won't be the last. Every Olympian who have been competing for long knows that.

  • @Dlegend73
    @Dlegend73 4 роки тому +12

    Great honest video! Victor has been black balled man. More than once. And great job in calling out IFBB bullshit.

    • @Vic00-rc6bd
      @Vic00-rc6bd 10 місяців тому

      Arnie, 80 Olympia...😂

  • @phoenixrisin2269
    @phoenixrisin2269 5 років тому +16

    From the back, Dexter disappears! Victors back looks great. Victor had enough to win but it was mass mania in those days! Victor was his best! He was the Shawn Rhoden with a back and arms in this show!

    • @jacobbrassard2776
      @jacobbrassard2776 4 роки тому +2

      Dex had one of the best backs. What are you talking about

    • @thomasmuller546
      @thomasmuller546 4 роки тому +1

      hands down dexter looks the best , not even close overall >.

  • @scottetanner
    @scottetanner 5 років тому +8

    'this old dude in the back ground' WTF!!!

  • @rminitials
    @rminitials 7 років тому +21

    Holy shit. I didn't realize how well conditioned the blade Dex came in during this show. This was definitely Dex vs Martinez. I'm sorry about Jay, lotta love for the guy. He's a champ but he had no place up on that stage. At least not in the top 3. I'd given him 4th.

    • @wslilsoldier575
      @wslilsoldier575 5 років тому +2

      Your fuckin stupid you mean 3rd ronnie looked awful this year

    • @andreasbadenhorst820
      @andreasbadenhorst820 4 роки тому +3

      @@wslilsoldier575 I think he ment Denis Wolf should've been third

  • @miguelroman4294
    @miguelroman4294 6 років тому +5

    I must say that I totally agree with your assessment, you were right on the money. Victor completely owned Jay, he was more conditioned, dryer, bigger and had better symmetry along with fuller muscle bellies on his back and arms. I really like Jay for everything he brought to the scene every year but I must admit 2007 belonged to Victor Martinez!

  • @yannikleuschner1426
    @yannikleuschner1426 3 роки тому +9

    2007 was dennis 2nd olympia his first was in 2006 where he didnt crack the top 15

  • @adrienbrown1944
    @adrienbrown1944 6 років тому +1

    Still waiting on the review of the 1997 mr o!!! Don’t think we forgot about that one ;) btw awesome Chanel, keep it up!!

  • @iambodybuildingyt221
    @iambodybuildingyt221 3 роки тому +2

    The most controversial placing in 2007 in my opinion was Wolf in 5th place he should have been in the top 3 and I would have had Wolf in 2nd place in 2007. This is how I saw it based on modern day standards no biased decisions.
    1st Victor Martinez
    2nd Denis Wolf
    3rd Dexter Jackson
    4th Jay Cutler
    5th Melvin Anthony
    6th Ronnie coleman

  • @gtnetwork2828
    @gtnetwork2828 7 років тому +4

    Like the videos bro, keep em up. very entertaining

    • @Tomn8er
      @Tomn8er  7 років тому +1

      This means a lot to me coming from you Mr President! :P

  • @jamesgoldbar5515
    @jamesgoldbar5515 7 років тому +11

    first pose dexter looks great..best to me...

  • @Walruskinz
    @Walruskinz 7 років тому +24

    7:30 Victors back looks perfect

  • @kayday803
    @kayday803 2 роки тому +2

    With Martinez standing next to Dexter I realize how similar their physiques are with the exception of the mass that Dex gives up to Martinez

  • @TheCorrectionist1984
    @TheCorrectionist1984 7 років тому +37

    I like your comparison of Wolf and Jay this year. I wonder where Jay would have placed if it was his rookie debut and nobody knew who he was really. sometimes the winner shouldn't even have been second or third, like Dorian.

    • @samuela9237
      @samuela9237 4 роки тому +2

      they probably would have placed him 12 no joke

  • @bobkurtz7076
    @bobkurtz7076 7 років тому +50

    im a big Jay fan but I agree Victor should have got the win

  • @jesusconde4317
    @jesusconde4317 5 років тому +2

    Nobody realises??? this is an American competition and competitors from there always had, have and will have a huge advantage.

    • @porcupinecraig
      @porcupinecraig 5 років тому

      Then explain Dorian.....

    • @jesusconde4317
      @jesusconde4317 5 років тому +1

      @@porcupinecraig good point. I already thought about it. It is similar to what happens with the Oscars. American and English actors are above aaaany other country in the world even disregarding language.

  • @bigdan9850
    @bigdan9850 4 роки тому +6

    I remember being new to bodybuilding around this time and being warned about how much politics were involved in the sport. And watching this Mr.Olympia, it was so apparent, even to a newbie. I immediately knew that it would not be worth cheering for your favourite bodybuilder, Because he wasn't going to win, even if he deserved to. This is why I believe the sport is so predictable. Even the sports insiders will not call out the IFBB for fear of being blacklisted.

    • @laurikotivuori1585
      @laurikotivuori1585 3 роки тому +3

      Doesn't apply to modern bodybuilding. The political decisions at the olympia haven't been a real thing for 3+ years now in any competitions, and they only happened once at the olympia in the 2010's, in 2014. 2017 was kinda controversial too, but Ramy lacked separation that year.

    • @gabbeskillz6262
      @gabbeskillz6262 2 роки тому

      @@laurikotivuori1585 Phil was better than Kai in 2014 though.

    • @laurikotivuori1585
      @laurikotivuori1585 2 роки тому +2

      @@gabbeskillz6262 Arguable, the poses went 4-4 and Kai didn't have a horrible midsection unlike Phil that year. The fans got so mad at Phil in 2014 and *especially* in 2017 that the judging criteria started shifting to penalizing the guts, and now we're experiencing an open class with barely anyone that has a "bubble gut", something the 2010's were full of. The past winner has a small waist (for a 300lbs guy it's even tiny) and well defined abs, the one before that a small waist and decently defined abs, and the one before that had a tiny waist and amazing abs + obliques.

    • @gabbeskillz6262
      @gabbeskillz6262 2 роки тому

      @@laurikotivuori1585 Kai did have a gut and lost 2-6, winning only the FDB and FLS, maybe the ab and thigh? Either way, he still deserved to lose.

    • @laurikotivuori1585
      @laurikotivuori1585 2 роки тому

      @@gabbeskillz6262 2-6? How in the world is Phil even remotely close to Kai in the ab n thigh with worse abs AND thighs along with less mass and a worse V-taper?
      Also, how is Phil beating Kai in the rear double bicep with a smaller and narrower back, much worse legs and worse arms -especially the biceps in a back double bicep? Both of those poses are borderline knockout punches, not that close.
      This contest went 4-4, all poses being clear and decisive. Phil won as the guts were not penalized at the time like they are now, it wasn't as bad of a decision as 2007 or 1997 but not far off.

  • @iseehowitis9382
    @iseehowitis9382 4 роки тому +8

    They should've gave ronnie's right side the sandow. It was on point

  • @hungarianbeast
    @hungarianbeast 5 років тому +10

    Totally agree, Jay didn't look mr.O worthy at all, neither in 06 nor in 07, in 2008 the judges had no other choice than to crown Dex, couse Jay looked like 20 weeks out at that show. Luckily after that we got prime Jay. but those 3 years were horrid.

    • @Tomn8er
      @Tomn8er  5 років тому +1

      Yeah I remember hating the 06 Olympia with a passion because the original UA-cam video had this garish red lighting that made them all look like juicy rotisserie chickens, especially Jay. But going back and watching clips with better lighting I think he deserved it. Was better than Coleman for sure and was just soooo much bigger than Dex or Vic, and not as off as in 07 or 08.

    • @hungarianbeast
      @hungarianbeast 5 років тому +2

      Yeah, 06 and 07 was the "dark times" Olympia. At least in 06 they had some minimal effort put into lighting, but 2007 was a joke. Originally I also hated the decision that they "robbed" Ronnie of his 9th title, but looking back he was asimetric, and just visible beaten up as far as his body goes. But he was still in better condition than Jay :D

  • @K9BuiltLife5053
    @K9BuiltLife5053 5 років тому +3

    Ronnie looked melted

  • @vandevenfitness7908
    @vandevenfitness7908 3 роки тому

    Lol that intro needs to be brought back 😂👌🏼

  • @ods1ODS
    @ods1ODS 4 роки тому +1

    I remember Jay had some definite asymmetry going on for this show as well. In the legs, tris, and maybe the lats.

  • @ShotgunsCentral
    @ShotgunsCentral 7 років тому +13

    Robbery did occur

    • @Tomn8er
      @Tomn8er  7 років тому +5

      yeah there's been a lot of controversial outcomes in the history of the Olympia but this one's not even debatable

    • @monsoon1174
      @monsoon1174 7 років тому +1

      Honestly, after watching this video I am more convinced that it wasn't as much of a robbery as I had first assumed. Sure, Jay wasn't numero uno by a long shot, but he wasn't near as behind I had imagined. I would have given Victor or dexter first, victor or dexter second, and jay third.

    • @ShotgunsCentral
      @ShotgunsCentral 7 років тому +1

      Well if a guy wins the olympia when he deserved 3rd at best I think that's robbery to the max lol. And let's be honest here there wasn't much competition in the olympia at this time, just washed up Ronnie, no Kai or Phil and Dennis was just starting at the time

  • @gullybop1695
    @gullybop1695 4 роки тому +6

    Jay lost every pose, but he won the Mr. Olympia. LOL!!!

  • @natepolidoro4565
    @natepolidoro4565 Рік тому

    The opening seconds of this video actually startled me.

  • @timcotter8178
    @timcotter8178 3 роки тому +5

    14:40. Look at that: Victor has calves.

  • @kevinrex7414
    @kevinrex7414 3 роки тому +1

    Maybe Jay getting the 07 win was judges telling bodybuilders to work on their calves.

  • @scottcrabtree3239
    @scottcrabtree3239 5 років тому +2

    Why were Jay's Abdominal muscles so odd looking? And honestly, Dexter could have very well, taken the top spot in this Olympia.

  • @davidward5225
    @davidward5225 3 роки тому +1

    The idea that glutes have to be shredded is asinine. That’s a modern invention of bodybuilding that only goes to show how close these guys are to death on stage. Training used to be about “health and fitness.” I’m sorry those days have disappeared.

  • @josephchenco8624
    @josephchenco8624 Рік тому

    Jay won because then Jay looked overall better. It is not about striations, which to many don't make sense. What fans look for are overall aesthetic appeal and Jay had it and deserved to win the Mr Olympia in 2007. The Judges did a good job in selecting the true champ Jay.

  • @BatmanBoss
    @BatmanBoss Рік тому +2

    1 Victor
    2 Dex
    3 Wolf
    4 Jay
    5 Ronnie

    • @troy8613
      @troy8613 7 місяців тому

      That’s much closer to how it should have been!! There’s an argument that jay should have placed even lower with his poor conditioning.

  • @DenisUspeshny
    @DenisUspeshny 22 дні тому

    The contest, the show, is a beauty pageant. Jay just looks better overall, with hair, etc. he is a better ambassador for the sport. That’s why.

  • @eriche8870
    @eriche8870 2 роки тому +1

    No argument Victor wins this show. Ronnie was already suffering with his injury here.

  • @SalahEd25
    @SalahEd25 3 роки тому +1

    Jay Culter came with soft ass glutes and won Mr Olympia 😂

  • @mike-iv5gj
    @mike-iv5gj Рік тому

    Jay had some asymmetry issues too in this show. Which was part of what made 2009 so amazing. And his A.R.T. massage therapy to treat it has been pretty well documented.

  • @kayday803
    @kayday803 2 роки тому

    Third one’s the charm! Vic’s sidechest reminds me so much of Ronnies! Insane

  • @dalish
    @dalish 4 роки тому +1

    I 100% its all politics here. I mean you gotta be blind to give it to Jay. Victor so deserved that win. He is the hardest working guy I ever met. Never gives up and always finds a way.

  • @YouRube.
    @YouRube. 5 років тому +6

    Jay beat Victor with hair gains in EVERY pose

  • @secretly3652
    @secretly3652 4 роки тому +2

    I had a hard time deciding between Dex and Victor. I rly want to give it to dexter. I think they won the same number of poses. Dexter had better conditioning but Victor was bigger. We didn't get to see the front lat spread, but I imagine Victor was better. So I will give him the win.

  • @BatmanBoss
    @BatmanBoss Рік тому +2

    Wolf looks better than Cutler! Lol

  • @SureBone99
    @SureBone99 2 роки тому +1

    I think I watched this video 10-13 times

  • @stilo2703
    @stilo2703 3 роки тому +1

    Ronnies tan makes it look like he is wearing gloves

  • @stannjob
    @stannjob 7 років тому +1

    33:36 ahahahhahahahahahahahhahahahaha!!! you made my day!!!!! Like your videos!

  • @richardpizzario3627
    @richardpizzario3627 6 років тому

    Martinez looks like a buff Vin Diesel.

  • @Caio-ow5tm
    @Caio-ow5tm 2 місяці тому

    lighting pretty good on this year

  • @johnthomas209
    @johnthomas209 5 років тому +1

    I love how pissed you are about IFBB and judging. Nice video

  • @markseeley718
    @markseeley718 Рік тому

    Ted Vernon, "I'm done!" ~~S. Beach Classics

  • @myflesh10
    @myflesh10 5 років тому +7

    As much as I Love Jays overall structure in most poses(besides the most muscular, never his best) I def see what U mean by him not being in great shape this year. Victor was super awesome here, kinda like a few others like Kevin L and Flex who seem like they should have taken the O at least once. Damn Dennis looked great too, not the best front and back double biceps but amazing in so many other poses as well as really conditioned. You brought up some great points. Jays structure though is amazing despite his less conditioned physique, he never really had arm/bicep veins throughout his whole career

  • @04dram04
    @04dram04 3 роки тому

    #5's abs are flawless

  • @harlemdeni
    @harlemdeni 4 роки тому +1

    For years I've heard how Victor should've won this. He was in the best shape ever, but it still! wasn't enough to beat Dexter!! Yeah, a robbery did happen, but it happened to The Blade's legacy. Dexter Jacskon was the clear winner of this Olympia.

  • @ArMiNiSfUCkinRedicK
    @ArMiNiSfUCkinRedicK 4 роки тому +1

    Ronnie was like dorian yates...a shell of himself...only difference was the judges gave dorian a going away gift

  • @kringlefanten
    @kringlefanten 3 роки тому

    Jay's tan kinda looks like a lobster

  • @gmschaarawtaza4104
    @gmschaarawtaza4104 11 місяців тому

    i’ve met jay and vic a few times during my tenure on the amateur circuit. super nice guys. politics plays a role in this business without a doubt.

  • @JohnSmith-ui3ce
    @JohnSmith-ui3ce 4 роки тому

    The rear lat spread goes to Victor, but Dexter looked really good in that pose too.

  • @frankiep5751
    @frankiep5751 2 роки тому

    The real reason he got robbed was the IFBB knew that he was guilty of selling steroids.. he went to prison the following day /week. They can not have a Mr.Olympia who is convicted and guilty of selling steroids. It would look bad for business.

  • @ironwarrior73
    @ironwarrior73 2 роки тому +1

    One of the worst decisions ever! I like Jay but no f#cking way did he win this show.

  • @aliasalbatross700
    @aliasalbatross700 3 роки тому +2

    I liked Dex the most here, the only shots he was giving up completely to the other competitors where the ones where he wasn't even hitting the pose properly, either because of misstimed shots or because he was jostling for position. I'm really digging victor as well here, wasn't as sharp as the Blade but definately a lot sharper than Jay and with size to match on most shots. Honestly, it should have been between Dexter and Victor, either would have been fine for me, Jay got the pitty win, his mass was great but he was incredibly soft just like you mentioned. Lower body was very solid but it comes to the upper body I even think King Coleman had him beat in just about every shot where they weren't showcasing arms and lats. Ronnie may have been a mess symetry-wise but even then he looks considerably harder than Jay, he completely smoked Jay in the most moscular though Dexter pretty much smoked them all.

  • @samraj5186
    @samraj5186 2 роки тому

    In the rear lat spread Jay looks like he has a hunch back. Terrible shape that destroys his symmetry.

  • @sandeeps7827
    @sandeeps7827 4 роки тому

    "This old dude in the background" was Ben Weider

  • @atharvnaik8888
    @atharvnaik8888 4 роки тому +1

    From back Victor looked like Shawn rhoden

  • @safailmulkumov8756
    @safailmulkumov8756 3 роки тому

    I dont see any difference between my fridge and Jay.

  • @thorcerchi5341
    @thorcerchi5341 2 роки тому

    In my opinion Victor wins the front double biceps hands down here. He is very close to the best Flex Wheeler. Great flow, simmetry and proportions

  • @iglehart14
    @iglehart14 4 роки тому +1

    Victor 1st, Dexter 2nd, and Jay or Ronnie was not in the top 5. Just highway robbery.

  • @sidotai6123
    @sidotai6123 Місяць тому

    That night was Victors night to win 💯👊🏽

  • @JohnSmith-ui3ce
    @JohnSmith-ui3ce 4 роки тому

    Victor won the rear relaxed pose.

  • @marioreglin5995
    @marioreglin5995 5 років тому +1

    Come on people everybody knows this is USA, where nobody beats the US people

  • @bartomiejkempkiewicz4395
    @bartomiejkempkiewicz4395 4 роки тому

    Martinez is smoking them in front double biceps!

  • @christophercurrymd8652
    @christophercurrymd8652 7 років тому +27

    victor
    dex
    jay
    ron

    • @doointhedoo
      @doointhedoo 6 років тому +2

      Nah Just Victor and Dexter. Jay and Ron didn't deserve to place that high.

    • @glenntipton6226
      @glenntipton6226 5 років тому +8

      victor
      dex
      Wolf
      Cutler
      Coleman

    • @dleigh9997
      @dleigh9997 5 років тому +4

      Victor
      Dexter
      Wolf

    • @Tyler1330
      @Tyler1330 4 роки тому +1

      D Leigh 100% agree with that order. Ronnie sadly should have sat out and let BB comp go
      and Jay presented a poor package making his flaws stand out unlike his 09 & 2010. Where Jays conditioning hide any genetic flaw extremely well.

  • @wingedhussar1453
    @wingedhussar1453 6 років тому

    U forget to see tht bodybuilding is not all about conditioning, its about show and cutler looked all around roundest and biggest while posing great

  • @rockywaters9592
    @rockywaters9592 5 років тому +10

    Do the 82 Olympia, no way was Dickerson better than Padilla and Platz.

  • @mohammadaminsarabi6207
    @mohammadaminsarabi6207 5 років тому +12

    2010 also belongs to heath not cutler...
    I respect cutler but he should ended up with 2 less mr0 title

    • @Wikingking
      @Wikingking 5 років тому +9

      But 2005 and even 2001 is debatable, he could have won at least one of those. Not to mention the "interesting" versus round of 2004 when Jay had a point of advantage until the last matchup against Ronnie, like if it was a movie. And previously Ronnie won the "abs and thighs" against guys like Dexter...it's a joke :D

    • @jimmychitwood9442
      @jimmychitwood9442 4 роки тому +1

      mohammad amin sarabi Jay should have won at least two of Ronnie’s Mr. O’s. So it evens out for him.

  • @arthurw1604
    @arthurw1604 4 роки тому

    Damn in BDB ronnies left upper body looks like a mini version of his rightxD

  • @vicentarreolacapri8829
    @vicentarreolacapri8829 7 років тому +1

    falto kevin levrone spawn el inmortal pero recuerdo ese año y guardo mi revista .like por vic y jay

  • @gustavalmqvist1475
    @gustavalmqvist1475 6 років тому

    I've got to say that I like Dexter's side chest the best! He almost looks classic with that twist in his torso. Opinions?

  • @user-fn3jc6ep5e
    @user-fn3jc6ep5e 10 днів тому

    C'mon, Cutler had the best hair. As a matter of fact, he was the only one with hair in that lineup. In case you're wondering, yes he could win based solely on this. He didn't have to have the best butt to win as you're suggesting here

  • @BigBoyRandom
    @BigBoyRandom 7 років тому +1

    Tomn8er said you might be able to come in back in the 80s and 90s with soft ass glutes like thez looooooooooooool

  • @jeffhayes2177
    @jeffhayes2177 4 роки тому

    I thought Jay was really smooth looking 2006 and 07 Olympia.

  • @torque122
    @torque122 6 років тому +4

    Yes this was one of Jay’s worst years. Didn’t deserve anything but 4th or 5th. Pathetic Olympia just like ‘80,’81,’97,and’01.

  • @manduheavyvazquez5268
    @manduheavyvazquez5268 5 місяців тому

    Victor looked much better in 2006, better legs and back, in 2007 his quads are so small maybe with 2006 shape victor can won. Jay won the back and legs, the strong points in Olympia.

  • @PresidentCoochieGrabber
    @PresidentCoochieGrabber Рік тому

    Get the the chopaaaaa

  • @Kush1322
    @Kush1322 6 років тому +5

    33:34 lmao thats ben weider

  • @noelrosell521
    @noelrosell521 7 років тому

    10:58 laughed my ass off hahaha

  • @jamesbailey5008
    @jamesbailey5008 4 роки тому

    Gold

  • @j.c.mhardcoremetalfan413
    @j.c.mhardcoremetalfan413 7 років тому +28

    Jay is big.but the dudes body just doesn't look good.even when he is spot on with conditioning.hes like a a square.when he does a abs pose with arms behind his head.its like a refrigerator .straight down.sorry big yes. Mr Olympia na.not one of the best Mr Olympia winner body at all.

    • @Leggn0
      @Leggn0 5 років тому +2

      Jay was amazing and had one of the best bodies ever 2001- 2003 not just at the o but in many others like the arnold and iron man. those were some of his best physiques ever, when he really chased the size, it showed, but imo i think he still looked great

    • @dleigh9997
      @dleigh9997 5 років тому +2

      2001 he look decent but not as good as bodybuilders like Shawn ray, flex wheeler, kevin Levrone, dexter jackson, and Victor Martinez

    • @noddingbart6915
      @noddingbart6915 5 років тому +2

      The pose is called Abs and thighs. When you don't even know what a pose is called, i don't see how your comment is valid

  • @dubenstein6347
    @dubenstein6347 2 роки тому +1

    Ronnie's front double bicep was better than Dorian's front double bicep and Yates won