Ali's Impossible Victory Explained

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  • Опубліковано 31 жов 2023
  • We take an in depth look at the story, history and tactics behind Ali's and Foreman's iconic Rumble In The Jungle. Considered by many the greatest boxing match of all time.
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  • @TheModernMartialArtist
    @TheModernMartialArtist  6 місяців тому +45

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    • @GunslingingSpider0
      @GunslingingSpider0 6 місяців тому +3

      Please do a video on G Man Gerald McClellan

    • @nickhughes7858
      @nickhughes7858 20 днів тому +1

      Can we please see a break down of Foreman vs Norton
      I know it will be very similar to Foreman vs Frazier but it would still be a very interesting and entertaining video to watch

    • @verity4917
      @verity4917 3 дні тому

      @TheModernMartialArtist, you can say whatever you want Muhammad Ali WAS THE MAN OF THE 20TH CENTURY, THE MOST FAMIUS, A LIVING LEGEN! Check this up!🤔

  • @Makkushimu
    @Makkushimu 6 місяців тому +1119

    I think the whole Ali losing to Frazier, Frazier to Foreman, and Foreman to Ali is a perfect example of "styles make fights".

    • @bjuganda7758
      @bjuganda7758 6 місяців тому +111

      Rock Paper & Scissors

    • @geraldfriend256
      @geraldfriend256 6 місяців тому +26

      No better example

    • @dudetrustme8320
      @dudetrustme8320 6 місяців тому +62

      Fraziers style was terrible against the excessive power of Foreman.

    • @marksheppard6498
      @marksheppard6498 6 місяців тому +28

      @@dudetrustme8320
      Same results if Tyson fought George

    • @OfficiallyWrexx
      @OfficiallyWrexx 6 місяців тому +56

      Except that Ali’s first fight with Joe was a once in a lifetime fluke with Ali underestimating Joe (this happens a lot when you legitimately feel like NOBODY can whoop you) and Joe literally fought his absolute BEST fight that night. My theory anyway with the rest of the trilogy as evidence(plus Ali and a lot others thought he won but that knockdown had CRAZY effect worldwide lol). Let’s also not forget Ali was forced to throw 3yrs of his fighting prime away due to bullshit prior to their fight.

  • @Jabbing_Jack
    @Jabbing_Jack 6 місяців тому +1004

    "I hated every minute of training, but i said, 'Don't quit', suffer now and live the rest of your life as a champion." -- Muhammad Ali

  • @Alex-cw3rz
    @Alex-cw3rz 6 місяців тому +1448

    Fun fact George Foreman in those 8 rounds against Ali landed more punches on Ali than Wilder did in all 3 Fury fights combined (30 rounds). Foreman 194 punches landed, Wilder 177. He landed more punches than Usyk did in either AJ fights as well. By the way this is not saying Ali is bad, this shows how amazing Ali was to not go down once. It also shows how much more they threw and the accuracy of these greats, Foreman was not even known for his stamina or punch rate at all back then.

    • @TheModernMartialArtist
      @TheModernMartialArtist  6 місяців тому +404

      A lot of that has to do with Foreman knowing how to jab and body punch really well. But Ali's endurance was insane, I can't think of many heavyweights that could take those body shots. And enough head shots landed to give Foreman a victory over pretty much any other heavyweight at the time. So the crazy thing is that Foreman's plan worked, he executed it well, and it would have gotten him a victory over pretty much anyone else. At the same time, Ali had way less room for error than he usually did. A few more head shots in the early rounds and I think he would have been down.

    • @Alex-cw3rz
      @Alex-cw3rz 6 місяців тому +91

      ​@@TheModernMartialArtist yep, that's a perfect analysis as always and as you say many people think of Foreman as just a really hard puncher, but he was much more than that.

    • @youtoo2233
      @youtoo2233 6 місяців тому +17

      Ali could have done his stick and move routine and George would have rarely landed

    • @TheModernMartialArtist
      @TheModernMartialArtist  6 місяців тому +165

      He says in his book he couldn't. George did too good a job cutting him off. According to Ali, he was literally unable to dance. I think most would have given up at that point if their entire style had been rendered useless over a few rounds!

    • @Alex-cw3rz
      @Alex-cw3rz 6 місяців тому +52

      ​​@@youtoo2233 if he could why didn't he, that sounds like a much more sensible idea than getting punched 194 times by one of, if not the hardest punchers of all time. If it was easier for Ali to do a James Braddock style win, he would have espcially as Foreman had much worse stamina than Max Bear, making stick and move even more attractive proposition. But Ali didn't, because he couldn't against Foreman especially at this point in his career.

  • @klaudioabazi4478
    @klaudioabazi4478 6 місяців тому +432

    This is my Favorite Boxing Fight of All Time. The Hype, the buildup, the Fighters, the Showmanship, the stage, David and Goliath, and the unexpected and iconic outcome. It has all the hallmarks of the perfect legendary story. Truly a unique event that will never be repeated. R. I. P. Ali, Go On strong Big George.

    • @damonshekhem8906
      @damonshekhem8906 6 місяців тому +6

      Do you know a young guy told me that Foreman was nearly the menace Tyson was in like are you ignorant they literally thought Foreman was going to kill Ali

    • @klaudioabazi4478
      @klaudioabazi4478 6 місяців тому +13

      @@damonshekhem8906 I Love Tyson but he was a child in comparison to Foreman in his prime in the intimidating game.

    • @damonshekhem8906
      @damonshekhem8906 6 місяців тому +5

      @@klaudioabazi4478 I’m in total agreement

    • @FatherofMan25
      @FatherofMan25 6 місяців тому +7

      Ali’s comeback arc is the greatest story in sports history. It peaked with his victory over Foreman. If his career had ended after that fight, it would’ve been truly storybook.

    • @klaudioabazi4478
      @klaudioabazi4478 6 місяців тому +4

      @@FatherofMan25 i fully agree bro. But Ali's pride got the better of him. Add to that an army of sycophants in his entourage convincing him that he was invincible, damaged his body more than it should have. Tragic, but still the Legend never dies.

  • @lO_OI
    @lO_OI 6 місяців тому +124

    "When he tried pawing to break his guard, he found out the ex-champion had no guard" is such a raw line

    • @petergreen5337
      @petergreen5337 4 місяці тому +7

      Yes : beautiful improvisation under the circumstances, showing yet again, HOW Ali NEVER stopped thinking as fighter .

  • @ggggggrrrrrhhhh2065
    @ggggggrrrrrhhhh2065 6 місяців тому +173

    "Very even fight."
    "Ali, a sneaky right hand."
    "Another sneaky right hand."
    "This time he works shoulder-to-shoulder with Foreman... AND A COMBINATION! FOREMAN! IS DOWN!"
    *Bob Sheridan and the audience explodes*

    • @sholaebofin6090
      @sholaebofin6090 6 місяців тому +5

      I love his commentary it's so epic

    • @Treebot1
      @Treebot1 6 місяців тому +10

      And he was the only one that saw what Ali was doing before the end of the fight

    • @stavros693000
      @stavros693000 6 місяців тому +6

      Just found out that Sheridan passed away on 27th of september 2023, he was 79 yrs. R.I.P

    • @chuckemeade
      @chuckemeade 6 місяців тому +7

      @@Treebot1 No Joe Frazier stated "he's using that old pro skilllmk on George and George's falling for it" I don't George is gonna make it".

    • @petergreen5337
      @petergreen5337 6 місяців тому

      ❤HAHAHA agreed

  • @Alex-cw3rz
    @Alex-cw3rz 6 місяців тому +259

    19:12 one other thing to mention is how unbelievably accurate Ali is here, every single punch lands exactly where he wants even though foreman is stumbling forward and to the groud, Ali's reaction time is so great he does not throw that last punch as he knows Foreman is going to the ground.

    • @elijahjamescomia2601
      @elijahjamescomia2601 6 місяців тому +7

      I don't think every punch he threw here hit foreman but when it did miss foreman he just used the missed punch to set up another, it was a thing of graceful brutality

    • @vistarecords4930
      @vistarecords4930 6 місяців тому +12

      Ali really controlled this fight. His speed was too much for Foreman, and if it had gone to the scorecards Ali would have won as most of Foreman's punches missed or did little damage. By the third round Foreman was just swinging wildly, where Ali was methodically targeting (and hitting) Foreman.

    • @Alex-cw3rz
      @Alex-cw3rz 6 місяців тому +2

      @@elijahjamescomia2601 which punch missed of those 4? The clip shows every single one and foremans head being jolted by everyone.

    • @elijahjamescomia2601
      @elijahjamescomia2601 6 місяців тому

      @@Alex-cw3rz there was a hook (which wasn't shown in the clip) that he tried hitting with which didn't hit

    • @elijahjamescomia2601
      @elijahjamescomia2601 6 місяців тому +1

      @@Alex-cw3rz foreman blocked the left hook and i'm not sure if the right hook was actually intended to move foreman's guard

  • @kristianjosh8293
    @kristianjosh8293 6 місяців тому +162

    To the world, it was a boxing match. But these two warriors were employing wrestling/judo and Muay Thai techniques. It was truly a Mixed Martial Arts fight at the heart of it. What an era.

  • @youtoo2233
    @youtoo2233 6 місяців тому +97

    Truth is very few knew the strength of Ali, much stronger than people realized which is why you see him manhandling George quite a bit

    • @misterwachulochulo5262
      @misterwachulochulo5262 6 місяців тому +6

      he wasn't that strong he was just incredibly accurate and good at breaking rhythm, so those laser-pointed punches would land when his opponents least expected it, which made them always devastating
      if ali had been a natural powerhouse like foreman then he'd have at the very least one body in his record

    • @youtoo2233
      @youtoo2233 6 місяців тому +23

      @@misterwachulochulo5262 several Fighters that are on record talking about ali said he was very strong in the clinches and they couldn't break free, look how he would push Foreman head down and lean on his back, tied him up

    • @misterwachulochulo5262
      @misterwachulochulo5262 6 місяців тому +17

      @@youtoo2233 I didnt know that, damn, having strength and cat-like accuracy is such a deadly combo, no wonder he got as far as he did

    • @active.7universal
      @active.7universal 6 місяців тому +21

      Norton also stated that hitting Ali was like hitting cement

    • @andu1854
      @andu1854 6 місяців тому +6

      Ali also was just as tall as George, so he didn’t have the size advantage

  • @jamesmarshall6619
    @jamesmarshall6619 6 місяців тому +54

    My favorite comment on this fight came from George Foreman. Foreman said "Ali said 'Is that all you got George?' And I thought "Yup.'"

  • @sebastiaankrul2403
    @sebastiaankrul2403 6 місяців тому +72

    The story leading up to this fight has to be the greatest in boxing

    • @TheModernMartialArtist
      @TheModernMartialArtist  6 місяців тому +18

      Both men are fascinating characters with crazy stories. Both heroes in their own ways!

    • @kcash6359
      @kcash6359 6 місяців тому +5

      @@TheModernMartialArtist The fight was originally scheduled for September 24th, but Foreman got cut in training. That extra month being in Africa helped Ali. He had time to win the country over.

    • @ghostdance56
      @ghostdance56 10 годин тому

      You mean the accusations that someone was tampering with Foreman's food? LOL

  • @KingSadim
    @KingSadim 6 місяців тому +302

    I'll never know how Ali survived those body shots, you could see the power behind them

    • @drinfernodds
      @drinfernodds 6 місяців тому +67

      @@formosan2823 I remember Ruslan Provodnikov had a video showing that his piss turned black from all the body shots Tim Bradley landed on him. They didn't even look bothersome and Tim's not a hard puncher, but it did a ton of internal damage.
      Ali probably pissed colors that were only perceptible to mantis shrimp.

    • @cygnusprime6728
      @cygnusprime6728 6 місяців тому +13

      ​@@drinfernoddsthat disgusting but hilarious, I learned about mantis shrimps crazy eyesight.

    • @andu1854
      @andu1854 6 місяців тому +14

      Ali had a great chin, and could
      Take a punch and he let George punch himself out

    • @CB-xr1eg
      @CB-xr1eg 6 місяців тому +11

      @@andu1854 He was talking about body shots not punches to the chin.

    • @mr.doctorcaptain1124
      @mr.doctorcaptain1124 6 місяців тому +16

      I mean, he didn’t survive those shots… Ali died early of Parkinson’s and was a shell of his former self by the time he hit the age of 45. And every medical doctor on the face of the planet believes, but cannot prove, that he got that from boxing…
      But he died a king.

  • @kencusick6311
    @kencusick6311 6 місяців тому +66

    Ali had one of the greatest chins in heavyweight history and he was impossible to hit in combination. To see Foreman hit him with combinations is incredible. But he took it. Archie Moore said years afterward that he saw Ali was an escape artist of the highest quality.

    • @jayedwards4787
      @jayedwards4787 6 місяців тому +3

      Foreman didn’t hit Ali in combinations ! Laughable …Foreman essentially landed no significant punches to Ali’s head …

    • @miguelguzman4552
      @miguelguzman4552 5 місяців тому +4

      Definitely one of his most underrated qualities, took punches from shavers

    • @petergreen5337
      @petergreen5337 4 місяці тому +1

      ❤well said and well REASONED.

  • @Khamae77
    @Khamae77 6 місяців тому +66

    Funny fact. With longer arm reach, Ali was 6'3" 216 lb and Foreman was 6'3" 220 lb. But Ali was considered as the dancing butterfly and Foreman as "Big" 😉

    • @sethteeter5225
      @sethteeter5225 6 місяців тому +18

      Yeah the reason foreman looks bigger is because of how much bulk muscle mass he had compared to alis lean mucsle mass

    • @thespy7795
      @thespy7795 6 місяців тому +14

      Foreman is actually 6'4"
      Ali was 6'2.5"

    • @kcash6359
      @kcash6359 6 місяців тому +10

      @@thespy7795 You are correct, although Ali may have been 6'2 and 3/4. I have stood next to both fighters, although not at the same time. Foreman's hands are huge.

    • @ballhawk387
      @ballhawk387 6 місяців тому +15

      Don't know their true dimensions, but it is obvious there was not much of a size difference. Same with Ali vs. Liston. Ali was a big heavyweight for his time.

    • @aarondigby5054
      @aarondigby5054 5 місяців тому +1

      ​@@sethteeter5225Ali had a more sullen physique he didn't look all muscle bound, George looked all Hulkish and slow. This is what the British announcer said about Ali "the Dancing Master with the Lightening Quick Hands" what people need to do is listen to the play by play announcers as their calling the fight instead of hooping and hollering in the background.

  • @damienhouse7706
    @damienhouse7706 6 місяців тому +184

    Hell yeah! This is the only video I ever wanted you to remaster, and you did it! Good job man.

    • @TheModernMartialArtist
      @TheModernMartialArtist  6 місяців тому +60

      I really needed to because it deserved it. It was crazy going through both of their books because they both give round by round accounts and often brought up the same moments. But they saw things completely differently, until the end of course.

    • @CarlDaCool168
      @CarlDaCool168 6 місяців тому +9

      @@TheModernMartialArtistwas actually hoping you’d expand on your old video so thanks

    • @petergreen5337
      @petergreen5337 4 місяці тому

      ❤agreed 100% well said.

    • @rafaelperezsosa9950
      @rafaelperezsosa9950 3 місяці тому

      @@TheModernMartialArtist what books?

    • @jayedwards4787
      @jayedwards4787 3 місяці тому

      Tell the clown to do Foreman vs Young … won’t ever see that happen

  • @jk_46
    @jk_46 6 місяців тому +59

    Ali's speed and accuracy was just on another level! It was on display again for all to see in this fight and even though he spoke to Foreman, took his best shots and talked more, the punches still did proper damage. Foreman looked tired by round 4, his face was starting to swell while Ali was landing more and more clean shots while forman was hitting body or air. He took Foreman to deep waters and drowned him🙈. I know Ali is the self proclaimed greatest but when he was focused on proving a point and did the necessary training, he was just about invincible. He stopped the monster who everyone thought would kill him. It has to count for something! One also has to considering that he wanted to fight anyone and everyone, sometimes multiple times if needed. Legend!

    • @CB-xr1eg
      @CB-xr1eg 6 місяців тому +2

      I feel privileged to have witnessed the great Muhammad Ali in his prime. No more to be said.

    • @petergreen5337
      @petergreen5337 6 місяців тому

      ❤agreed 100%

    • @aarondigby5054
      @aarondigby5054 5 місяців тому +1

      Watch the last minute and a half of round five and you'll see Ali's greatness

    • @aarondigby5054
      @aarondigby5054 5 місяців тому

      George Foreman was 40-0 with 37ko nobody gave Ali a snowballs chance in gell, but Ali predicted what all he could and couldn't do, he was confident. He said George was slow, plodded around the ring like a mummy, telegraphed his punches, Ali dissected George like a surgeon.

    • @sidharthk2793
      @sidharthk2793 3 місяці тому +1

      ​@@aarondigby5054
      Foreman was too overconfident and barely trained due to injury. He even prayed to not get Ali killed. Imagine how much could Foreman train with that attitude, He simply had no plan. He lost because he was exhausted fastly. He had Ali at the 7th round I guess but couldn't finish since he himself was tired.

  • @sharpvidtube
    @sharpvidtube 6 місяців тому +44

    Ali was the greatest, as Tyson said, he would do whatever it took to win. He had all the skills, was incredibly fast and had an amazing boxing brain, but it was his willpower that that took him to another level. Any other boxer would buckle in this fight, with the heavy punches Foreman threw, but Ali was willing to go the 15 rounds.

    • @stavros693000
      @stavros693000 6 місяців тому +6

      Yeah Ali was prepared to die in that ring! He paid a heavy price to acheive greatness in the second half of his career....Amazing comeback story. It was like David & Goliath!

    • @jayedwards4787
      @jayedwards4787 6 місяців тому +1

      None of the punches Foreman threw hurt Ali ..they didn’t land to the head

    • @stavros693000
      @stavros693000 6 місяців тому +4

      @@jayedwards4787 Getting hit to the body does more damage...Ali pissed blood for weeks after the Rumble in the jungle!
      BTW Ali was rocked a few times by foremans power shots that got through Alis guard and landed flush on his chin!....But Ali had next level resilience, recovery & stamina!

    • @jayedwards4787
      @jayedwards4787 6 місяців тому +1

      These Foreman -worshipping clowns .Foreman was a headcase , channelling his hero, Sonny Liston, so-Big bad George was easily conned into punching himself out and then , exhausted, and with zero boxing skills , he was easily KOed…Foreman didn’t land anything of consequence the entire fight while Ali hit him with straight right leads . Foreman was a great puncher with a great left jab- but he had psychological problems and no defense or stamina, as light-punching Jimmy Young showed. @@stavros693000

    • @aarondigby5054
      @aarondigby5054 5 місяців тому +2

      Foreman never went 15 rounds but once

  • @HorangiTiger
    @HorangiTiger 6 місяців тому +118

    "He hurled thunderous haymakers with all the fury of a god of war laying waste to a defiant nation." Your narration is always so fun to listen to lol.
    Great video! I've always wanted to see you cover this fight more in-depth.

    • @jayedwards4787
      @jayedwards4787 6 місяців тому

      This guy has psychological problems - a bizarre worship of both Ali and Foreman .His commentary is usually comedic because of this

    • @petergreen5337
      @petergreen5337 6 місяців тому +1

      ❤well said and well OBSERVED

    • @jayedwards4787
      @jayedwards4787 3 місяці тому

      What a headcase ..Foreman just exhausting himself throwing body shots

    • @phealy02
      @phealy02 2 місяці тому

      A little florid for my tastes, but it is entertaining to listen to. 😀

  • @whatisahandle_69
    @whatisahandle_69 6 місяців тому +112

    Ali is my idol as a revolutionary who put his time and money where his mouth was and denied the US the sadistic pleasure of killing him at war in Vietnam. God tier bravery and character.

    • @TheModernMartialArtist
      @TheModernMartialArtist  6 місяців тому +56

      The cool thing is that Ali would have spent his time touring army bases and other safe jobs like that. He refused to go on behalf of the people they were sending to the front line, taking a stand for them.

    • @whatisahandle_69
      @whatisahandle_69 6 місяців тому +18

      ​@@TheModernMartialArtistright on, thanks for that. I wasn't aware they wanted him for propaganda purposes.

    • @mr.doctorcaptain1124
      @mr.doctorcaptain1124 6 місяців тому +5

      When did Ali put his money where his mouth is? Can you name even a single time, ever?
      I always see Ali fanboys say that (don’t get me wrong, I love Ali too, but not as a humanitarian. I love him as a boxer and a champion), but I’m yet to have anyone actually point me to an example of him actually doing that. Usually people always say “Oh he helped build a hospital in Ziere!” But that’s not true. He never gave a dime to that hospital, he only visited it.

    • @Slip526
      @Slip526 6 місяців тому +6

      you can stand up to something with words besides money buddy

    • @whatisahandle_69
      @whatisahandle_69 6 місяців тому +23

      @@mr.doctorcaptain1124 he went to jail in his prime. Lost some of the best boxing years of his life for the anti-war cause. Money meets mouth. What more do you want me to say?

  • @tonyfortune346
    @tonyfortune346 6 місяців тому +16

    I've been watching boxing for a long time and I've seen thousands of different boxers but nobody made boxing look as beautiful and graceful as Ali. If i could only watch one person's fights for the rest of my life theres no question it would his.

  • @MattanzaMafiaFedora
    @MattanzaMafiaFedora 6 місяців тому +49

    Glad we got a more in-depth breakdown of this fight, David!
    Next, could we please get Sugar Ray Leonard vs Floyd Mayweather Sr?

  • @achillesiq491
    @achillesiq491 6 місяців тому +17

    One of my favorite Ali fights! Never get tired of watching it and hearing everyone that night thinking Foreman would win by knock out...then only til about the 5th round did the commentators start to doubt...ha!

    • @ghostdance56
      @ghostdance56 6 місяців тому

      Not just the commentators, anyone with any sense believed Ali had no chance. Ali was luckiest man alive that night.

    • @turukbodunucuntunudmadmkun2088
      @turukbodunucuntunudmadmkun2088 6 місяців тому +2

      @@ghostdance56 no luck. Technic, speed!

    • @ghostdance56
      @ghostdance56 6 місяців тому

      @@turukbodunucuntunudmadmkun2088 - He layed helpless on the ropes most of the night. Who you think you're kidding?

    • @haroldsmyth6685
      @haroldsmyth6685 5 днів тому

      ​@ghostdance56 joe frazier was wrong jim brown was wrong. You in good company

  • @user-wu6td7qg7e
    @user-wu6td7qg7e 2 місяці тому +5

    David, You give the best analysis of anyone Ive seen on boxing (thank you for your great content.) I am 58 and remember this fight very well. Everyone including myself at the time surely thought Ali would lose. My dad was the only one who thought Ali could do it

    • @gulizarkarasu308
      @gulizarkarasu308 2 місяці тому

      Your dad know a lot about boxing. I hope he is still alive.

  • @Halibut86
    @Halibut86 6 місяців тому +29

    George looks absolutely exhausted just a few rounds in after the rope a dope!
    Whether that's conditioning, heat, or excessive force expelled trying to KO is hard to say; probably all factors.
    Interesting to learn that it was a tactic Ali used in sparring to test his opponents. You definitely needs tons of experience to use a strategy this risky against one of the most powerful men of all time!

    • @petergreen5337
      @petergreen5337 6 місяців тому +1

      ❤exactly well OBSERVED

    • @TheBillaro
      @TheBillaro 6 місяців тому +2

      he was taking head shots throughout the fight. imho this hurt him cumulatively.

    • @danielbrown7115
      @danielbrown7115 6 місяців тому

      He was drugged. Ali had to win because if he lost there would have been a riot and massacre of epic proportions. This was in a murderous African country that hated George and loved Ali. Go see the movie When we were Kings and George Foreman autobiography By George. The ropes were not supposed to be as loose as they were by regulation.

    • @asmrnaturecat984
      @asmrnaturecat984 3 місяці тому +2

      ali had said even before the fight that foreman never had many rounds in the ring, same thing he said before liston
      compare to ali, he always pull the match to judges decision or tell the ref to stop when his opp couldnt go on
      and ali fought more frequent, he has more stamina, skill, and experiences

    • @andu1854
      @andu1854 2 місяці тому

      He punched himself out

  • @askalucas411
    @askalucas411 6 місяців тому +34

    Thank you for all you do. Incredible videos. I just finished watching the Ali vs Forman video you just uploaded and all I can say is thank you for such incredible work. ❤ every video you have uploaded has been 100/10
    God bless you and your family brother

    • @TheModernMartialArtist
      @TheModernMartialArtist  6 місяців тому +19

      Thanks I appreciate that! I went hard on this one, weeks of research. The fight deserves it, contender for greatest fight in history. I'll keep making these videos as long as people care to watch them :)

    • @kcash6359
      @kcash6359 6 місяців тому

      @@TheModernMartialArtist Yes, thank you. This has always been my favorite fight. Saw it on Closed Circuit live, in Worcester , MA that night.

  • @blueeyebandit
    @blueeyebandit 6 місяців тому +32

    " Ernie Shavers the hardest hitter in boxing history " According to Ali , Ron Lyle , Larry Holmes... And basically anyone who faced the Acorn AKA Black Destroyer , never the less Big George is right up there .

    • @bjuganda7758
      @bjuganda7758 6 місяців тому +5

      Even Big George said that he glad he didn't fought Earnie Shavers which shows Big George respecting the power of Earnie Shavers

    • @blueeyebandit
      @blueeyebandit 6 місяців тому

      Both Joe Frazier and Big George where ducking a Shavers fight , opting to set up another opponent . Shavers had a feared reputation every boxer testifies to his power . Only Ken Norton was humble when asked the comparison of punch power who hit harder he said they hit about the same . @@bjuganda7758

    • @TheBankofJosh
      @TheBankofJosh 6 місяців тому +3

      Shavers said he asked both Frazier and Foreman to fight and they both denied him

    • @active.7universal
      @active.7universal 6 місяців тому +4

      ​@@TheBankofJoshtrue//bazooka Joe said (no earnie I'm not fighting you man you hit to damn hard )

    • @Ken_Frazer-619
      @Ken_Frazer-619 2 місяці тому

      ​​@@bjuganda7758if Only George Foreman didn't take a year out he would've fought Shavers, Quarry or Bonavena as Ali wanted Foreman to win a tune up while he was fighting Lyle and Bugner so they can fight around the time of the Thrilla in Manila meaning Frazier's shot would've been pushed back to 1976 and Norton's to 1977
      An Ali-Foreman rematch in 1975 would've been a war with Ali winning again by knockout

  • @saddlerjfk
    @saddlerjfk 6 місяців тому +45

    I'd love to see a breakdown on Ali's defensive style when doing the Rope-a-dope. Did Foreman never land a single liver shot or did Ali just make sure ever single body punch landed in a place that didn't hurt as much?

    • @Treebot1
      @Treebot1 6 місяців тому +15

      he deflected a lot, but he definitely took a lot of brutal shots.
      he undoubtedly trained his body to withstand punishment so he could protect his head.
      larry holmes would later remark on Ali pissing blood for days after fights.
      he paid a huge price for those victories

    • @kcash6359
      @kcash6359 6 місяців тому +2

      @@Treebot1 Luis Sarria was Ali's masseur. He kept Ali's body in shape and worked with him through most of Ali's title fights. Ferdie Pacheco said Sarria was a "fitness guru", and Angelo Dundee stated Sarria added years to Ali's career.

    • @Eb-or
      @Eb-or 6 місяців тому

      Is Sarria responsible for killing Ali's brain then?@@kcash6359

    • @miguelguzman4552
      @miguelguzman4552 5 місяців тому

      He kinda did that

    • @SheldonPlankton-gp8il
      @SheldonPlankton-gp8il 4 місяці тому

      Check 8:48

  • @lesson9280
    @lesson9280 6 місяців тому +4

    "the unexpected rhythm caught Ali by surprise." is one of the funniest things in fighting i have ever heard and seen.

  • @cnh2132
    @cnh2132 6 місяців тому +14

    "Boy, you've picked the wrong moment of the fight to get tired!"

  • @vistarecords4930
    @vistarecords4930 6 місяців тому +17

    Ali fought a really smart fight against Foreman. He let Foreman tire himself out in every round, and Ali managed to steal 5 of the 7 rounds (as I scored it) in the last 30-45 seconds of those rounds. He'd come to life late and land more good punches in the last 30 seconds of the round than Foreman had for the first two and a half minutes. Ali's speed was too much for Foreman. Most of Foreman's punches either missed or did little damage. Just like Frazier and Norton gave Ali fits in their stylistic matchups, Ali was all wrong for Foreman. It was a great fight, but Ali owned it.

    • @petergreen5337
      @petergreen5337 4 місяці тому +1

      ❤Precisely.

    • @Ken_Frazer-619
      @Ken_Frazer-619 2 місяці тому

      ​@@petergreen5337Ali would've beat Foreman in a rematch for sure by Knockout in 1975 or by a Unanimous Decision in 1976

  • @cyberjayhd7051
    @cyberjayhd7051 6 місяців тому +14

    I can tell this video is gonna be great. The craziest heavyweight fight I've seen

  • @gregd806
    @gregd806 6 місяців тому +15

    I'm glad you took a revisit of this fight, knew there was more story to tell from this one...
    10/10 Work here, Mate!

  • @justdynee
    @justdynee 6 місяців тому +9

    I think it was Ali's size which almost matched Foreman but was 4 pounds less with similar heights and reach that made him in this fight. He could tie up Foreman unlike Norton or Frazier. That is what he did in desperate and non desperate times. Over time the guy with the bigger muscles had to pay for carrying that extra weight. Foreman lifts weights in training, usually a no-no especially in them days. I think Foreman was out on his feet in rounds 5,6,7, and 8.

  • @cmbrewer84
    @cmbrewer84 6 місяців тому +17

    It’s crazy how a younger Ali knocked out Archie Moore one of Foreman’s trainers and defeated Foreman with Moore in the corner watching

    • @petergreen5337
      @petergreen5337 4 місяці тому

      ❤Moore had also trained Muhammad Ali before he teamed up with Angelo Dundee.
      Archie Moore and Sandy Sadler had a CLEAR PLAN of how to DESTROY the " butterfly "
      Archie Moore and Sandy Sadler had KNOCKED OUT 200 fighters between them.

    • @asmrnaturecat984
      @asmrnaturecat984 3 місяці тому +2

      foreman also adores his mentor and sparring partner sonny liston
      imagine restoring liston's honor by ko'ing ali..he had all the motivation and reason to beat ali

    • @Ken_Frazer-619
      @Ken_Frazer-619 2 місяці тому +1

      ​@@asmrnaturecat984Fun fact in 1972 Ali wanted to fight Foreman in an eliminator to face Frazier as he couldn't stand the fact that he would only get his shot at Frazier after Foreman did and George didn't beat the fighters he beat to get the shot but Foreman's camp refused

  • @anemicroyalty8764
    @anemicroyalty8764 6 місяців тому +13

    Please do Tyson-Douglas! Feels like the only big fight you haven’t done.

    • @aarondigby5054
      @aarondigby5054 5 місяців тому +1

      Tyson/Douglas was a bigger upset than Ali/Foreman

  • @davida.munene9118
    @davida.munene9118 6 місяців тому +20

    Often recognized for his speed, his brute strength is so underated. He manhandled foreman even in the early rounds, He was really really strong

  • @johnrenehan7406
    @johnrenehan7406 4 місяці тому +4

    This is the best in depth analysis of this iconic fight ever ; unlike several others - it highlights how many good hits Forman actually landed onto Ali ; Watching the complete fight a good few times , it was difficult to see many of Gorges punches land at all !
    A brillant critque

  • @zoyazam8776
    @zoyazam8776 6 місяців тому +5

    "Ali finishes the job with a cross and watches the man the world told him cannot be beat, fall to the floor" -David Christian
    My favorite line from the other video about Rumble In The Jungle

  • @dfk09
    @dfk09 6 місяців тому +7

    Great video but slight correction: Ali was 32 in 1974 when he faced Foreman. He was born in January 1942.

  • @am2382
    @am2382 6 місяців тому +78

    They robbed Ali's potential prime between 67 - 69.

    • @vistarecords4930
      @vistarecords4930 6 місяців тому +30

      Ali would have been frighteningly good - great - during that period. If you look at his last few fights before the ban he was really becoming an absolute monster. So fast, but with enough power to put his opponents down on the canvas. The fact that he came back after so much time off and won the title back is amazing. The Ali that took the title from Foreman was great, but nowhere near as great as he would have been in 1968 and 1969. And if he didn't have that time off he would have been sharper in the early and mid 70's - think about that!

    • @aarondigby5054
      @aarondigby5054 4 місяці тому +6

      IKR, Ali should've sued for potential income lost

    • @naunau311
      @naunau311 3 місяці тому +1

      @@aarondigby5054 Sued who lmao. He's the one who broke the law.

    • @-dave3577
      @-dave3577 2 місяці тому +2

      @@vistarecords4930 He would also have likely retired a lot earlier and probably with his faculties still intact.

    • @mercistephens7325
      @mercistephens7325 2 місяці тому +5

      @@naunau311 An unjust "law" deserves to be broken

  • @robertmorris9998
    @robertmorris9998 6 місяців тому +6

    Great job remastering this video, and the commentary pretty good too!!
    I remember this fight well. I was (and am) an Ali fan, but I could not ignore the power of foreman. Every punch, if connecting clean, could do severe damage. He was truly a beast in the ring, completely unafraid and fighting with gladiator abandon.
    No one was more shocked than I when Ali got hit, again and again, yet somehow remained on his feet. It is a testament to his will and resolve, and a great chin as well.
    After he weathered the 3rd and 4th round, I knew how it was going to go, and began to feel bad for George. He had been outfought, and outsmarted, and was going to pay the ultimate price for it.
    Surely one of boxing’s greatest contests, by two of its icons…

    • @jayedwards4787
      @jayedwards4787 6 місяців тому

      Ali didn’t get hit… that’s how he made it …He was prepared for the body shots and nothing landed to the head . This wasnt a great contest and Foreman wasn’t even a good boxer, though he had great punching power.

  • @ezsmith3765
    @ezsmith3765 6 місяців тому +4

    That combo Ali dropped GF with in rd8 is a TOP10 moment in SPORTS history.

  • @ender8170
    @ender8170 6 місяців тому +9

    I would absolutely LOVE some videos on Foreman's techniques and how he fought. Everyone talks about second career foreman, but never first career when it comes to how he fights. I don't really care for cross guard foreman that much, but long guard foreman was INCREDIBLE! please talk about it!

    • @jayedwards4787
      @jayedwards4787 6 місяців тому

      He as almost totally unskilled - Foreman had a great jab and he was a tremendous puncher .He had no defense, no stamina and he had psychological issues

  • @granadosvm
    @granadosvm 6 місяців тому +5

    I remember watching this fight. Ali was my idol and he looked like he was losing and (to my childhood untrained eye) not even trying.
    Little I knew Ali was experiencing early stages of Parkinson's, not being able to evade punches with the agility of early years, he invented the "rope a dope" to use the ropes like in 8:21 where if he had been standing and had to resist the impact, he could have been knocked out, but he just left his body go as back as possible in the slightly lose ropes, letting the ropes absorb part of the impact. Something similar in 8:39 and 11:48 Ali was making Foreman feel tired and instead of the attempts of devastating power Foreman was trying, Ali was slowly mining him down. By the time Ali knocked Foreman down, Foreman was too tired and lacked the stamina to stand up on time. Foreman had the strength to stand up and fight again, but it took him too long.
    In the words of Ali himself, every champion wrote his page in the book of boxing, but Ali wrote complete chapters.

  • @fearsomename4517
    @fearsomename4517 6 місяців тому +5

    Literally the best boxing match since forever. "I said I was the greatest before I even knew I was" - Muhammad Ali

  • @timephire
    @timephire 6 місяців тому +7

    Great timing on dropping this one! Rumble young man rumble!

  • @jasintosamora5599
    @jasintosamora5599 3 місяці тому +3

    I remember this as a kid. Two great warriors. Ali is the greatest boxer fighter of all time. Imo no one comes close. May he rest in peace.

  • @twobyfour
    @twobyfour 6 місяців тому +4

    "You`re not hitting George, You`re not breaking popcorn George"! How Ali pulled this off is incredible.

    • @aarondigby5054
      @aarondigby5054 5 місяців тому

      The first time both fighters were guaranteed $10million purses." The Rumble in the Jungle "

    • @andu1854
      @andu1854 2 місяці тому

      Ali had a great chin, never was knocked out

  • @jgreenbelt
    @jgreenbelt 6 місяців тому +5

    I am so happy you remade this video!

  • @HatoriZenzo-un9gx
    @HatoriZenzo-un9gx 6 місяців тому +7

    i think we all like ali because he always looks like you are watching a movie where human is fighting against MONSTERS , he looks too human too smart and speed while his opponent alwas huge and musclar and like predator
    this era was so cool for heavyweight

  • @zainwasem
    @zainwasem 4 місяці тому +3

    This fight is full of patience, confidence of Muhammad Ali. he is the Greatest ❤️ Ali Punches speed accuracy his comments everything is top class.

    • @petergreen5337
      @petergreen5337 4 місяці тому

      ❤agreed 100%. Well said and well OBSERVED.

  • @bryanmulcare9083
    @bryanmulcare9083 6 місяців тому +5

    Muhammad Ali is one of those fighters where he can trash talk against his opponent and show why he’s better. He’s one of those guys where he can pull off the impossible.

  • @TimeNap
    @TimeNap 6 місяців тому +8

    I remember thinking this fight was All getting beat up for 5-6 rounds, then flipping it and winning. Then I watched it and was surprised that Ali was always in the fight and winning exchanges.

    • @tonyfortune346
      @tonyfortune346 6 місяців тому +3

      Yeah, I'm not sure how that narrative got started but everybody who hasn't actually watched the fight thinks that's how it went. I thought the same before my first time watching it.

  • @victorsanchez-castro8944
    @victorsanchez-castro8944 6 місяців тому +5

    These historic fight breakdowns are my favorite type of video that you put out. Thanks for the great content

  • @howardacquistapace5967
    @howardacquistapace5967 6 місяців тому +4

    "the mummy" tag was given by Ali to name how foreman would be moving near the end of fight after Ali , as he had planned, allowed him to wear himself out throwing all those huge blows without really connecting with the elusive and self protected defense Ali had cooked up.
    Ali, pre fight quote
    "I'll be the mummy's curse"

  • @ezsmith3765
    @ezsmith3765 6 місяців тому +1

    This channel is SO GOOD. The best of its kind. I’ve been subbed for over 4 years now.
    Fascinating breakdowns for the well educated combat sports fan as well as being simplified enough for the new viewer.

  • @lucasmungoni5580
    @lucasmungoni5580 6 місяців тому +29

    Just the fact that it was held in Africa already made it a hit

    • @itsnotme3882
      @itsnotme3882 6 місяців тому +3

      Why? Couldn’t a great fight have been held anywhere and still been a great fight? It’s about the fighters isn’t it?

    • @drinfernodds
      @drinfernodds 6 місяців тому +13

      ​@itsnotme3882 the promoter Don King was working with the government of Zaire, whose leader wanted the publicity of the fight for his country.
      Basically like how Saudi Arabia throws a ton of money to host boxing bouts now, like Fury vs Ngannou.

    • @camoss3724
      @camoss3724 2 місяці тому

      @@drinfernodds Plus, Don King couldn't get the funding or the venue for the fight in the United States. Or anywhere else for that matter.

  • @riossalinas2819
    @riossalinas2819 6 місяців тому +4

    Your breakdowns are professional and sound. Love this

  • @xctkillaprodigyx2586
    @xctkillaprodigyx2586 6 місяців тому +2

    This is the best channel on UA-cam and its not even close. Thank you so much for your amazing analysis and content. Peace and love my brother!

  • @VegetaWien89
    @VegetaWien89 6 місяців тому +4

    The remastered video we have all been waiting for!

  • @samueldowney2806
    @samueldowney2806 6 місяців тому +3

    Wonderful, thanks for this one man. Great video. Love both these legends.

  • @TheGunDude
    @TheGunDude 6 місяців тому +1

    Man you make these videos so incredible. Bringing the fights to life!

  • @pauldrew3696
    @pauldrew3696 6 місяців тому +16

    There were probably only 3 times Foreman hit Ali clean in the face or jaw, but those shots would have dropped anyone else. The man was simply mythical with an iron will.

    • @petergreen5337
      @petergreen5337 4 місяці тому

      ❤exactly well said and well REASONED.

  • @sethteeter5225
    @sethteeter5225 6 місяців тому +4

    You dont know how excited ive been for this thank you so much

  • @TECHNOIR
    @TECHNOIR 6 місяців тому +3

    George Foreman has long belied F. Scott Fitzgerald's maxim 'There are no second acts in American life' - George is a fantastic human being, love him. Ali's victory was genius and arguably birthed the perfect George. George would be one of the first to admit that losing was one of the best things he has done

  • @blisshyatt6350
    @blisshyatt6350 2 місяці тому

    I loved the first Ali Foreman breakdown you made and very happy you did one in much more detail. Keep em coming!!

  • @Tyson59166
    @Tyson59166 6 місяців тому +5

    Foreman in his actual prime and champion🏆.
    Ali defeated him😮❤
    He was so depressed that took 15 years to recover

  • @TechnoLawyer
    @TechnoLawyer 6 місяців тому +4

    Ali, fear? I’d think this fight would show he had none. Foreman had demolished Frazier and Norton, looked like he’d do the same to Ali. And Ali shit talked Foreman before the fight, shit talked him during the fight, beat him mentally, then beat him physically.
    My favorite comment from Foreman on this fight was that there was a point where he nailed Ali with a perfect right and Ali said “is that all you got George?”. Foreman said he thought “yeah actually” and got really discouraged 😆

  • @Treebot1
    @Treebot1 6 місяців тому +4

    It bugs me when people say George Foreman lost because he was tired. Ali was sniping him with stinging laser precise shots thruout the fight. Something like 15 straight right hand leads in the first alone.

    • @duranfreeman839
      @duranfreeman839 6 місяців тому

      Ali was a damaged fighter after this one!!

    • @bobbyhulll8737
      @bobbyhulll8737 6 місяців тому

      @@duranfreeman839this fight was inconsequential to Ali’s Health .

  • @yimins_baybeh
    @yimins_baybeh 6 місяців тому +2

    About time you redid this !!

  • @marsMayflower
    @marsMayflower 6 місяців тому +2

    love your videos, man. excellent stuff.

  • @donkeyfacekilla1
    @donkeyfacekilla1 6 місяців тому +3

    Love your videos. Learn so much!

  • @eddyyt7466
    @eddyyt7466 6 місяців тому +3

    I love your videos, you introduced me to the great Emanuel Augustus and I’ll forever thank you for that.

  • @keep_walking_on_grass
    @keep_walking_on_grass Місяць тому +2

    I was 10 years old and watched the fight live at night on a small black-and-white TV. The quality wasn't nearly as clear as it is here on YT or anywhere else. All I saw was Ali looking really bad, with his back against the ropes, and I was shocked. Then it suddenly happened, and Foreman went to the canvas. I watched that fight 100 times ever since then and this is the fight, I adore Ali for the most.

    • @Defender_928
      @Defender_928 Місяць тому

      Thx for sharing your beautiful memories with this fight ❤

  • @ExcellentHealth
    @ExcellentHealth 6 місяців тому +1

    Thank you my friend. I was wondering why your older video covering this fight had less detail in comparison to many of your other breakdowns. Will be a fun watch.

  • @jojolisticallyspeaking4266
    @jojolisticallyspeaking4266 6 місяців тому +4

    It's been a while Bro. I miss your spot on narration as your video plays on. You have a great voice too. This Ali/Foreman fight is a masterpiece! Keep it up buddy.

  • @freezhollywood
    @freezhollywood 6 місяців тому +3

    Ali is a from a different cloth. To survive a monster but not only survive the monster but conquer the monster!

  • @Eazy-ERyder
    @Eazy-ERyder 6 місяців тому

    Thanks for giving it to us again..your reviews are fantastic!

  • @alanhouston5874
    @alanhouston5874 6 місяців тому +1

    Great video (as always)
    I always shudder of that shot from behind of Big George hitting the heavy bag with that right hand shovel hook

  • @casualgamer3903
    @casualgamer3903 6 місяців тому +4

    i think ali said to forman during the staredown something along the llines of "chump u in school when i was beating sunny liston"

  • @houdinididiit
    @houdinididiit 6 місяців тому +4

    Interesting that Foreman trained under Sonny Liston who was defeated by Ali. Liston was a beast. Looking at footage just before their fight, most would put him crushing Ali. Gotta give it to Ali's incredible unique style tho. His near featherweight footwork and powerful jab really set him apart. There will never be another like him.

    • @aarondigby5054
      @aarondigby5054 5 місяців тому

      And that snake like jab, sneaky right hand and footwork the likes of the HW division had ever seen.

    • @houdinididiit
      @houdinididiit 5 місяців тому +1

      @@aarondigby5054 His footwork was so unique that Bruce Lee adopted it. (I read that in a book years ago,). Many people don’t know that. But when Bruce first came to America as a young man, martial arts wasn’t such a big thing. It was all about karate. His main art form Wing Chung, has limited footwork. Bruce, being the way that he was, changed things up and it all came from Ali’s footwork. Watch Bruce Lee in his films doing his own shuffle.

  • @Fosah
    @Fosah 6 місяців тому +1

    love these videos man never stop showing the youth who the boxing greats are!

  • @MasterBrianJohns
    @MasterBrianJohns 6 місяців тому +2

    Outstanding work! Keep it up!

  • @GaiJinGringo
    @GaiJinGringo 6 місяців тому +3

    So glad you did a proper vid on rumble in the jungle,besides the 6 min vid

  • @constantintummescheit4314
    @constantintummescheit4314 6 місяців тому +4

    Man i love your channel I hope you keep it up man can you continue to break down George Foreman fights?

  • @aayoutbe2825
    @aayoutbe2825 6 місяців тому +4

    Thank you..enjoyed it

  • @WokeSoros
    @WokeSoros 6 місяців тому +1

    Dude, I absolutely love your work.

  • @MateusSantos-hk2gs
    @MateusSantos-hk2gs 6 місяців тому +4

    I was waiting for that

  • @theblkwolverine1570
    @theblkwolverine1570 6 місяців тому +7

    Ali is still the greatest of all time.

  • @cdrfrost734
    @cdrfrost734 4 місяці тому

    Man, great job on this videos you're killing it.
    Keep it up!

  • @walterdanielantoniopalavec3822
    @walterdanielantoniopalavec3822 4 місяці тому +1

    What is clear is that, you should not only hit with brute force but with intelligence...ALI is the greatest not only for its technical quality but for fantastic INTELLIGENCE

  • @jeffeverett274
    @jeffeverett274 6 місяців тому +3

    George had a problem with pacing himself. Ali out witted him.

  • @BigBrainLynx
    @BigBrainLynx 6 місяців тому +7

    You should do a video on Ken Nortons style my man, he started boxing at 23 and was self taught in the beginning, hence his awkward, jerky style

    • @Alex-cw3rz
      @Alex-cw3rz 6 місяців тому +7

      His cross arm guard was exceptionally effective as well, it nutralised Ali's jab and in part I think that is why Foreman during his later career developed a cross arm guard

    • @BigBrainLynx
      @BigBrainLynx 6 місяців тому +6

      @@Alex-cw3rz Yeah his style gave a ton of trouble to boxers, but it was pretty weak against punchers (You can't blame him though, his era had the toughest heavyweights in history), I would kill to see how he would do in the modern era.

    • @Alex-cw3rz
      @Alex-cw3rz 6 місяців тому +3

      ​@@BigBrainLynx well in the Ali vs Norton fight, Norton threw 635 punches and landed 286 punches which is an accuracy of 45% against someone with the defensive the calibre of Ali. There is no boxer today who lands even close to 286 punches in a fight and not one has a 45% accuracy. Usyk who lands more punches than any other heavyweight today, you can add up both AJ fights (24 rounds) together for usyk to land as many punches as Norton did in 15 rounds and Norton had double the accuracy of Usyk in either of those fights as well Usyk 21% hit rate against AJ who is not the best defensive boxer.

  • @g.m.fordham9217
    @g.m.fordham9217 6 місяців тому +2

    Great analysis of one of the greatest fights ever! Thanks for your insight!

  • @mscir
    @mscir 6 місяців тому +1

    AWESOME video, thank you!

  • @andu1854
    @andu1854 6 місяців тому +4

    I liked that Ali took on every top fighter during his career, so he did have some losses, but I still consider him one of the greatest (unlike Floyd,
    Who was only concerned with a 0 in lost column, and avoided fighters until they were last prime)

  • @atifjameel5996
    @atifjameel5996 6 місяців тому +5

    Ali should've retired after this because he proved and proved again he's the GOAT of GOATS

  • @t0byd431
    @t0byd431 6 місяців тому +2

    Another great video, as always

  • @demoniac972
    @demoniac972 6 місяців тому +2

    The extremely high level of these 2 warriors is incredible, here it is clear that boxing has nothing to envy of wing chun