I love what you all do. I would love to help. I live in Irving, Texas, and wanted to see if there are abolitionists here in the Dallas area. I put my information in on the website and haven't gotten a response. I'm not sure if I misunderstood the process but thought someone would get ahold of me.
Love your content. And maybe you feel like you have been called do this, so I say respectfully. No scripture asks "you" to go in protest, argue, debate, point out people's particular sins. If this is the worst you are doing you are doing a great job following, I am not judging. I also think the government has no right to life. AND their rights would definitely not trump a womans right to a life that lives off of her body. I hope nobody gets an abortion and if they do, I hope they come to Jesus and repent. BUT that is between them. I know you mean well I really do. BUT God's ways are beyond ours. An abortion could be the very thing that brings them to Jesus.
@@13raxx67 I disagree but do see where you're coming from. I don't worship myself, but I do have free will and the idea of original sin is meant to keep us good, I get that. But it doesn't.
"The Bible is very easy to understand. But we Christians are a bunch of scheming swindlers. We pretend to be unable to understand it because we know very well that the minute we understand, we are obliged to act accordingly."
In 2021 in Florida rape and incest accounted for .001% of abortions. 126 out of 79817 abortions. While elective and social/economic reasons accounted for 95.5%, 76258 out of 79817. It's just disingenuous to argue that it should be legal because of rape.
That's the trend across the country, the gutmacher institute (spelling) and pew research released a study in 2019 (or 2020) about this, shows that year that over 600k abortions were done, less than 5% combined was from rape, incest, and medical complications. Also out of that, only 54% were first timers, and something like 20% were on their third or more abortion. YET THE LIST OF PEOPLE WAITING TO ADOPT NEWBORNS IS LIKE 2 MILLION, it's heartbreaking.
I may be completely wrong, and I only know of this from another channel that speaks to abolish abortion, but isn't the data results of abortions incorrect becasue there is no requirement for reports or data collection of abortion clinics? I'm not saying the above stated statics are wrong, just curious if my info is inaccurate?
Incest does not matter as it's not really immoral, people keep telling me it is and I'm s psycho but never give me a reason both wether they are for or against abortion.
And you ignore the vast number of pregnancies that never result in birth. You pretend every pregnancy is viable and that couldn't be further from the truth. You don't decide what's inconvenient with other people's medical decisions. You never will. Get a hobby or a real cause. Dehumanizing women isn't going to work out the way you think it is.
@@MarshallllllllWalk3r What do you mean by "mortality rates"? What is the cause of the mortality? Miscarriage without human intervention is a naturally occurring event - typically there is no human action that initiated it. In the case of abortion a human (doctor, mother etc. ) has intentionally introduced something (chemical, or mechanical process) into the otherwise normal growth process of the baby such that it will die.
@@MarshallllllllWalk3r 95% of all maternal mortality is in lower income countries and could be prevented by adequate medical assistance, before, during and after childbirth (WHO). The statistics for infant mortality mirror this fact. It's just a convient excuse for privileged Western women to avoid responsibility.
@@sergeantromanovklov4378 No I meant pro life. Many ex-pro lifers like me used to think that the prolife movement are aiming for abolition of abortion. Many of us have come to realise that this is simply not the case. The perfect example is OK where there is ample numbers to pass bills to abolish abortion. Russel has an OK prolife representative on camera (knowing he's being recorded) admit that he is not an abolitionist and he merely reflects the people in his district. I simply refuse to be a part of any movement that continues to find ways to justify special murder rights for human lives.
@@sergeantromanovklov4378 I meant prolife. Like many others I thought the prolife movement had the aim to abolish or eradicate abortion. This is not the case. And I want no part in finding ways to keep special murder rights accessible to women.
Yeah it’s an interesting distinction that the pro-abortion camp (I refuse to call them pro-choice anymore) wants people to never know about. It’s easier to dissuade rational people from a pro-life platform than it is an abortion abolitionist stance. (imho)
When progressive people say they are devout Christians, what they really mean is this: “The only part of the Bible that I like are the parts that talk about love and about not judging others. The end.”
@@MarshallllllllWalk3r Yes, I try to be like Jesus. He wouldn’t support women ending the lives of their babies. So yeah, Jesus and I are in agreement 😁
@@adriana12995 Jesus was prochoice, and you don't know what he thinks. Sorry. James 1:26 If a person thinks that he is religious but can’t control his tongue, he is fooling himself. That person’s religion is worthless.
@@MarshallllllllWalk3r when you call someone a hypocrite, you must first point out how they are being a hypocrite. Throwing around random words and verses that you don’t understand is fruitless and incoherent. I don’t think that verse means what you think it means.
So basically she's saying "kill all you want because God is love and will forgive you either way"... Someone hasn't the slightest clue of what repentance is ✔
@@lucarich8711 I sure can define repentance for I recently experienced it myself and would highly encourage others to do the same. It is the regenerative work of the Holy Spirit when we are truly repentant (sorry) for living a selfish, self-centered, self-reliant and Godless lifestyle and want to change our behavior thereby giving it up to God. Upon surrendering to God the regenerative process of justification (having been saved from sin and justified), adoption (having been made part of God's family), sanctification (continuously being transformed, made holy, and conformed to the image of Christ) and the future sense of glorification is what repentant Christians anticipate; that one day we will be saved from the presence of sin. A repentant life is a changed life, not in that perfection is ever attained but in that the fruit of repentance - a change in action and attitudes - becomes discernible in a person’s character. A repentant person will hate sin and will live in a way that is pleasing to God... What is your version or understanding of repentance?
@lucarich8711 I sure can define repentance for I recently experienced it myself and would highly encourage others to do the same. It is the regenerative work of the Holy Spirit when we are truly repentant (sorry) for living a selfish, self-centered, self-reliant and Godless lifestyle and want to change our behavior thereby giving it up to God. Upon surrendering to God the regenerative process of justification (having been saved from sin and justified), adoption (having been made part of God's family), sanctification (continuously being transformed, made holy, and conformed to the image of Christ) and the future sense of glorification is what repentant Christians anticipate; that one day we will be saved from the presence of sin. A repentant life is a changed life, not in that perfection is ever attained but in that the fruit of repentance - a change in action and attitudes - becomes discernible in a person’s character. A repentant person will hate sin and will live in a way that is pleasing to God... What is your version or understanding of repentance?
@@lucarich8711 I sure can define repentance for I recently experienced it myself and would highly encourage others to do the same. It is the the regenerative work of the Holy Spirit when we are truly repentant (sorry) for living a selfish, self-centered, self-reliant and Godless lifestyle and want to change our behavior thereby giving it up to God. Upon surrendering to God the regenerative process of justification (having been saved from sin and justified), adoption (having been made part of God's family), sanctification (continuously being transformed, made holy, and conformed to the image of Christ) and the future sense of glorification is what repentant Christians anticipate; that one day we will be saved from the presence of sin. A repentant life is a changed life, not in that perfection is ever attained but in that the fruit of repentance - a change in action and attitudes - becomes discernible in a person’s character. A repentant person will hate sin and will live in a way that is pleasing to God... What is your version or understanding of repentance?
@lucarich8711 I sure can define repentance for I recently experienced it myself and would highly encourage others to do the same. It is the regenerative work of the Holy Spirit when we are truly repentant (sorry) for living a selfish, self-centered, self-reliant and Godless lifestyle and want to change our behavior thereby giving it up to God. Upon surrendering to God the regenerative process of justification (having been saved from sin and justified), adoption (having been made part of God's family), sanctification (continuously being transformed, made holy, and conformed to the image of Christ) and the future sense of glorification is what repentant Christians anticipate; that one day we will be saved from the presence of sin. A repentant life is a changed life, not in that perfection is ever attained but in that the fruit of repentance - a change in action and attitudes - becomes discernible in a person’s character. A repentant person will hate sin and will live in a way that is pleasing to God... What is your version or understanding of repentance?
Right after R v W was overturned, a local Methodist church put these words on their sign "This is not okay. We are not okay. We will fight for women!" I was shocked to see this public statement. This is unfortunately what some churches are teaching.
I watched a short clip, right here on youtube, of a church where the "pastor", dressed in a clown costume, performed the chicken dance while giving communion; complete with the song playing over the sound system for everyone to clap to. With churches like that, no wonder there are "christians" like this.
That really is the problem. This woman really believes she is a devout Christian because so many churches are pushing pro abortion messages. It is really troubling how over half of the churches around have lgbtq flags and have just been taken over by woke ideology.
I wrote this comment on a short, but I wanted to say here that I love my t shirts and I wear them all the time in my generally liberal coastal city. Nobody has confronted me yet. I have had a hard life, been victimized a lot, but I am glad for my life. I hope nobody decides my life isn't worth living because of all the trauma.
People on all sides of this issue are actually extremely lacking in courage and preparation to defend their views. They might not engage you, but you’ve got them thinking. Keep being bold enough to wear the truth on your sleeves.
Sure Jesus is going to come back and look at the aborted babies and say "y'all're doing a fine job". We're supposed to carry our cross and be our brother's keeper.
@@sjruruchunchunmaru9070 Jesus was prochoice, but don't pretend that you know what Jesus Would do. You don't. You're just a silly flesh suit with fantasies.
It’s mental gymnastics. I would have made the same arguments as this girl when I was her age. At least she’s open for an honest discussion and has the chance to change her mind in the future.
While I'm sure most people here will generally disagree with her position on abortion, I do believe we can all agree that at least she came to Hunter respectfully and was willing to listen and debate and also didn't use the old tired trope off " You're a man so you can't have an opinion" argument that so many young woman like to use when debating a male abolitionists. I tip my hat to this young lady.
And why is being "respectful" a thing to be lauded? Don't misunderstand...I'm not condemning self control...far from it. But of what value is "respect" from people who approve of murder? You tip your hat to someone who approves of murder...? Really...?
@@timber72 lol it's not that deep. Regardless of the circumstances, it's always nice to see people freely exercising their freedom of speech to discuss hard topics like this while maintaining professionalism and respect.
@@gavinr4214while being respectful in of itself is noble, you’re missing the forest for the trees here. What’s more important? Someone being nice or someone having a good sense of morality? Focusing on such a small detail of her politeness does a disservice to focus on the weightier matters, the morality of the issue. Will you have the same attitude to someone who murders a person on the street. And then he talks to you politely and says why what he did was justified. Will you say to him “good day to you sir I personally disagree with you but I’m glad we could have civil discourse on why you feel it was ok to kill that guy on the street that I have no ties with”. I don’t tip my hat to people who support murder. It’s not about being belligerent to disagreement but politeness is not the end goal. Justice is.
Responding to 9:17: My childhood best friend was raped by her stepfather and got pregnant, age 12. He forced her against her will to have an abortion. She didn't want to. She thought it was wrong. "Of course" a girl who is raped should have an abortion? What, she doesn't have a say? My best friend died when she was 32 years old. I think there is only so much trauma and betrayal a body can take before it gives out.
I'm sorry to hear about your childhood friend. I agree that the trauma and pain felt from these atrocities can be lethal. I also have a childhood friend whose life was destroyed by the sexual abuse she endured from her mom's boyfriend. She is still alive but she is homeless, drug addicted, severely mentally ill, and incapable of caring for her 2 children. I think about her everyday and I pray for her often. Anyway I hope your friend found peace in the Lord before she passed.
@@PearlsPetalsandPraiseAw thanks. Same here, I think about my friend often, even though it's been decades now since she died. I'm so sorry about your friend. It's so painful to witness, and to remember the beautiful person they were and know what they could've been. I'll pray for your friend. For a miracle, for healing for her. I mean it. Take care.
Well and these people always seem to suggest that the girl's life will be ruined. Ummmm she certainly doesn't have to parent that child if she doesn't want to. Nobody is suggesting that she has to be a twelve year old parent. They're suggesting that allowing that baby to come to term is the right thing to do.
This story is not quite a 'slam-dunk' argument against abortion rights. Twelve-year-olds have underdeveloped bodies, not ideally designed to carry babies to term. Your friend could have actually died in childbirth, at that young age.
Kids would be better off not being born? Seriously? What a despicable person. I was raised in poverty. I was abused in terrible ways. I don't regret my life one single bit.
I think most of these people don't really understand foster care. Foster care is not an orphanage, the vast majority of children in foster care are not waiting to be adopted. There are an estimated 400,000 children in foster care, of those only 100,000 are actually available for adoption. There are an estimated 2 million couples approved and waiting to adopt a new baby, if you find yourself pregnant with a healthy baby and you don't want it it is very unlikely to end up in foster care (unless you refused to give up your rights to the baby).
A good set of questions to ask abortion advocates is: "What if a particular baby was healthy and would be raised as part of a great family?" "Would you oppose the abortion in that instance even if the woman wanted the abortion?"
Abortion is murder-period! Biblically, and medically, it is the premeditated ending of an innocent human being. Ecclesiastes 11:5 As thou knowest not what is the way of the spirit, nor how the bones do grow in the womb of her that is with child: even so thou knowest not the works of God who maketh all. Matthew 10:30 But the very hairs of your head are all numbered. Psalm 127:3 Lo, children are an heritage of the Lord: and the fruit of the womb is HIS reward. Psalm 139:13-18For you formed my inward parts; you knitted me together in my mother's womb. I praise you, for I am fearfully and wonderfully made. Marvelous are your works; my soul knows it very well. 15 My frame was not hidden from you, when I was being made in secret, intricately woven in the depths of the earth. 16 Your eyes saw my unformed substance; in your book were written, every one of them, the days that were formed for me,when as yet there was none of them. How precious to me are your thoughts, O God! How vast is the sum of them! If I would count them, they are more than the sand. I awake, and I am still with you. Luke 1:41-44 And it came to pass, that, when Elisabeth heard the salutation of Mary, THE BABE LEAPED IN HER WOMB; and Elisabeth was filled with the Holy Ghost: 42 And she spake out with a loud voice, and said, Blessed art thou among women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb. 43 And whence is this to me, that the mother of my Lord should come to me? 44 For, lo, as soon as the voice of thy salutation sounded in mine ears, THE BABE LEAPED IN MY WOMB FOR JOY.” Jeremiah 1:5 Then the word of the Lord came unto me, saying, BEFORE I FORMED THEE IN THE BELLY I KNEW THEE; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations Isaiah 44:24-25 Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and HE THAT FORMED THEE FROM THE WOMB, I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself; That frustrateth the tokens of the liars, and maketh diviners mad; that turneth wise men backward, and maketh their knowledge foolish 26 That confirmeth the word of his servant, and performeth the counsel of his messengers; that saith to Jerusalem, Thou shalt be inhabited; and to the cities of Judah, Ye shall be built, and I will raise up the decayed places thereof Proverbs 6:16-19 16 These six things doth the Lord hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him: 17 A proud look, a lying tongue, and HANDS THAT SHED INNOCENT BLOOD, 18 An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief, 19 A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren. Medically: What happens in the zygote stage? If a sperm penetrates the egg, fertilization results. Tiny hairlike cilia lining the fallopian tube propel the fertilized egg (zygote) through the tube toward the uterus. The cells of the zygote divide repeatedly as the zygote moves down the fallopian tube to the uterus. The zygote enters the uterus in 3 to 5 days. The zygote phase lasts only about four to six days, after which the single cell splits rapidly to become a blastocyst and then an embryo. What makes a zygote alive? The fusion of the sperm (with 23 chromosomes) and the oocyte (with 23 chromosomes) at fertilization results in a live human being, a single-cell human zygote, with 46 chromosomes, the number of chromosomes characteristic of an individual member of the human species. At what point does life begin? The biological line of existence of each individual, without exception begins precisely when fertilization of the egg is successful. The process of fertilization actually begins with conditioning of the spermatozoon in the male and female reproductive tracts. Does human life begin at conception? Life Begins at Fertilization with the Embryo's Conception. "Development of the embryo begins at Stage 1 when a sperm fertilizes an oocyte and together they form a zygote." "Human development begins after the union of male and female gametes or germ cells during a process known as fertilization (conception). Does an embryo have a heartbeat? At 6 weeks, the embryo's heart is beating rhythmically, and the heart can be easily identified. Its image has been captured for viewers to see. Researchers have found that the presence of a heartbeat at 6-8 weeks indicates that the baby has a very high chance of surviving to childbirth. Can a fetus feel pain? * The idea that unborn and newborn babies cannot feel pain is obsolete, refuted by an extensive and growing body of scientific evidence. The myth that unborn babies cannot feel pain comes from a bygone era when newborns were strapped down for surgery without pain relief.[i] The substantial published scientific literature on the topic shows that unborn babies can experience pain at least by 15 weeks gestational age (15 weeks LMP, since Last Menstrual Period, the fetal age estimate used by most obstetricians) or earlier. Two common methods are used to measure the age of an unborn baby: Post-fertilization age or post-conception weeks (PCW), used by embryologists, measures the age of the unborn baby from the actual date of conception, while gestational age measures from the first day of the mother’s last menstrual period (LMP, approx. two weeks before conception). Medical practitioners have been using the latter method as standard medical practice for decades, and for the purpose of this paper, ages refer to gestational age unless otherwise indicated. * A comprehensive review of the scientific literature[ii] including neural development, psychology of pain sensation, and moral implications of fetal pain, concludes that unborn babies may experience pain as early as 12 weeks. The review notes that neural connections from periphery to brain are functionally complete after 18 weeks. “Nevertheless, we no longer view fetal pain (as a core, immediate, sensation) in a gestational window of 12-24 weeks as impossible based on the neuroscience.” The review points out that a fetus may not experience pain in the same way as an adult, but does indeed experience pain as a real sensation, and that this pain experience has moral implications. Significant because this unbiased review of the scientific evidence and agreement on existence of fetal pain, as early as 12 weeks and certainly by 18 weeks, comes from two highly credentialed medical professionals, one pro-choice. “The two authors came together to write this paper through a shared sense that the neuroscientific data, especially more recent data, could not support a categorical rejection of fetal pain.” * Embryological development occurs early for pain sensory mechanisms and neurophysiology. The basic anatomical organization of the human nervous system is established by 6 weeks.[iii] Nerve synapses for spinal reflex are in place by 10 weeks.[iv] Pain receptors (nociceptors) begin forming at 7 weeks’ gestational age.[v] * Nerves linking these pain receptors to the brain’s thalamus and subcortical plate form between 12- and 20-weeks’ gestational age.[vi] The thalamus functions in pain perception in fetuses as well as in adults.[vii] * Numerous lines of evidence now show the fallacy in the claim that the brain cortex is necessary to experience pain and suffering, including the fact that decordate individuals as well as animals lacking higher cortical structures obviously do feel pain.[viii] In fact, the human brain cortex does not fully mature until approximately 25 years of age, yet infants, children, and teenagers also obviously can experience pain.[ix] * Fetal reactions provide evidence of pain response. The unborn baby reacts to noxious stimuli with avoidance reactions and stress responses. As early as 8 weeks, the baby exhibits reflex movement during invasive procedures.[x] The application of painful stimuli to an unborn child is associated with significant increases in stress hormones in the unborn child, known as the stress response.[xi] In fact, evidence indicates that subjection to painful stimuli as a fetus is associated with long-term harmful neurodevelopmental effects, such as altered pain sensitivity and, possibly, emotional, behavioral, and learning disabilities later in life.[xii] * Ruth Grunau, a pediatric psychologist at the University of British Columbia, said, “We would seem to be holding an extraordinary standard if we didn’t infer pain from all those measures.”[xiii] * Increased sensitivity to pain. In 2010 one group noted that “the earlier infants are delivered, the stronger their response to pain.”[xiv] This increased sensitivity is due to the fact that the neural mechanisms that inhibit pain sensations do not begin to develop until 34-36 weeks , and are not complete until a significant time after birth.[xv] This means that unborn, as well as newborn and preterm, infants show “hyperresponsiveness” to pain.[xvi] Authors of a 2015 study used the fMRI technique to measure pain response in newborns (1-6 days old) vs. adults (23-36 years old), and found that “the infant pain experience closely resembles that seen in adults.” [xvii] Babies had 18 out of 20 brain regions respond like adults, yet they showed much greater sensitivity to pain, responding at a level four times as sensitive as adults. * Through technological advancements, the peer-reviewed evidence has only become more compelling as ultrasonographic studies have literally given us a window into the womb for the first time. A study published earlier this year found that fetuses at approximately 31 weeks’ gestation grimaced with pain when their thighs were injected with anesthetic prior to a painful intrauterine surgery. Another 2021 study observed the same result - a pained grimace upon being pricked with a needle with anesthetic - with a 23 weeks’ gestation fetus about to undergo heart surgery in the womb.[xviii]
All true. I simply say this. Even if a mother( a woman that is pregnant ) does not have all this information, she does know that the living being inside her womb is her child, and if she does not kill it, it will grow all on it's own, into a full grown baby in a short 40 weeks. It is the 40 week old baby she does not want.
She is justifying killing and saying it's not murder, or murder is a harsher way of putting it because it's better than being in a broken system. Um we don't kill kids who are in the system so they don't have to suffer anymore. These kids were developmentally the same as the aborted baby.
"iz the way the truth and the life" "those that hate me they love death" - pro life abolitionist they say abortion pills die eggs then subconsciously program their kids easter lets die eggS IN multicolor 🌈 baptism get those PAS pills Let's die eggs Hunt them & after the hunt _______ after the hunt eat die & eat eggs that should represent a new life die &eat eggs that should represent being born again die the eggs in multicolor 🌈 baptism hunt them down and eat them as 👹 deviled eggs Yea they use a magic spell d y e & "pronounce" die Eggs pronounced dead Deviled eggs LGBTQ abortionist didn't steal the rainbow You programmed them to use the rainbow!!!
Your attempt to use the Bible as a weapon to force your preconceived dogma on others is sad and, in my opinion, borderline evil. How is it the Jewish faith doesn’t read any of the scriptures you quote in the manner you do? The Old Testament makes clear life begins at first breath - which is why abortion is legal in Israel. Of course, using the Bible which is in no way a science or medical book, as a reference for decisions regarding those topics is folly - and the insistence of some that we do so is a reason record numbers are rejecting religion entirely. (Also I appreciated the deceitful sophistry in your argument, where you cited the reaction of fetuses to pain at levels of development past the point legal under Roe and which in cases of viability were never allowed anywhere in the United States.)
@@MarshallllllllWalk3r Human rights belong to every living human with a unique human DNA, and that includes a person from their moment of conception (zygote). Sounds like you don't understand what humans and human rights are.
If you were alive between 1973 and 2023 ....you survived the modern American Holocaust of the "undesirables". It was one person's choice that determined if you would live or die. Your VERY Blessed to be here.
You're very gifted at this and I feel I'm being trained on how to speak calmly and more slowly when these conversations come up. I always pray for the people you encounter when I watch these. Thank you for getting out there with truth and encouraging us by your actions.
God bless. Yall please keep on the good fight you have changed my mind on abortion. And through your videos i have changed many of my friends and families minds on abortion. It is crazy how many people are willing to over look such precious life and agree to sacrificing children in the name of my body my choice. we have let schools twist a child into a clump of cells a Mear parasite. Thanks for forcing me to open my eyes God bless yall
This is the Important thing for Parents. To teach their children biblical Basics. Thou shalt Not Murder. Otherwise the world will. As a young person i was on the Only in special circumstances r## , incest, ect. But After raising 2 kids, I knew it was Human Life from day 1, and every stage after. Thats the Pro life stance, (Exceptions). There is No Exceptions on Murder of the Innocence.
I think you’re underestimating the mental gymnastics they’re capable of. I’ve called it taking an innocent life and they started arguing with me over if the child is actually innocent. Or even a life at all.
@@BK-im8lrsame, but I continue to call it an innocent human life, or pre-born child as that's exactly what they are 🤷🏻♀️ All their semantics and gymnastics don't change reality
@@astroterf. Yea, I was responding to the person saying that calling it an innocent life would end the semantics game. My point was that abortion supporters will always play the semantics game because that’s all they have to work with.
Any Christ centered man would never marry, and make this woman a mother. Imagine how she will treat you as an elderly spouse, past your prime and in need of a loving spouse.
I never knew people could be more compassionate then God. For I know the plans I have for you,” declares the Lord, “plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future.
Fact. My mother was 13 years old, and I was adopted. No one talks about the father, who he is. I was born because in 1963, it was a crime to murder child in womb.
I think a lot of people are just claiming Christianity as a title, it's unfortunate because if they are Christians they should live the Christian values.
Wow! In the first 30 seconds I can tell she is nowhere near a devout Christian. She says she can’t forgive several things. I wonder if she’s ever heard “forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us.” Her refusal to forgive others will be a detriment to her soul. It seems like her devotion is mostly to herself. 🤦♂️
When she says, "that's how they used to do it," is she saying that should continue? I think the proper response would be, "that logically follows, I guess."
Matthew 7:21 (KJV) Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
Galatians 2:16 (KJV) Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.
@@stevenstahl2219 God saves you. God also clearly teaches that must follow the commands of Christ and avoid grave sin in order to keep that free gift. That's what all Christians believed before the Protestant revolution in the 16th century.
@@stevenstahl2219 That refers to the old Mosaic Law. Paul clearly teaches that justified people can lose the grace of salvation through grave sin. He even says that he could become a reprobate.
@abolitionists rising. Please talk to Pastor Troy Brewer of Open Door Church in Burleson Texas about littles”hobbits” as he calls them that he and his ministry teams rescue from sex trafficking. They have snd do have 10, 11, 12 year old girls that get pregnant and HAVE their babies and LOVE them! He could tell you stories you wouldn’t believe. But you need a new response to the little girl who gets pregnant hypothetical. 👍
If you're a young female who gets her period that means that biologically you are ready to give birth, it still should be looked down upon in our society because of the age restrictions, however, it does not mean she will die, giving birth is a biological process and natural.
I really wish people would use these talking points: If someone kills a pregnant woman (and the baby dies), the killer is charged with 2 murders. If a woman gets an abortion, why isn't she charged with murder? Why is one ok, and the other isn't? Also, those same people are against the death penalty, but they have no problem killing an innocent child.
The sickest part of this video is the reality of having to convince the 'Christian' woman that abortion is murder. The unbeliever is expected to think like the world but the Christian, if they are truly a Christian, shouldn't even have a second thought about it being wicked.
We have to remember the name "Christian" can be taken by anyone nowadays. This is why I call myself "a follow of Hamashiac/המשיח" (one of the reasons), because the title of Christian is so so very tainted. It's very wicked to think that it's ok to k1ll a child, Christian or not but ESPECIALLY if you're "Christian". Especially because we know children a gifts from The Most High. Pray for the ignorant and the confused🤕
How do I get involved? I see there's no groups in Western Wisconsin, I have time and energy and I want to help! I'm willing to sit down with any politician in the state anyone holding office, go to any school, or public event!
I don't know of anyone off the top of my head, but if you join our Facebook group you should be able to find some folks in your area! facebook.com/groups/freethestates/?ref=share
He made a great point. Making abortion safe is protecting the person who murders. Its a repercussion of not following the law and doing something immoral.
I think it’s interesting how in so many of these videos, the person trying to challenge just simply moves from one general sound bite to the next. So predictable.
Thank you Russel and AHA for being the ones to say this is evil and not good! As a women who knows the extreme depths of drapravity in this world I appreciate you. The fact that society is telling girls and women in an unstable state of mind that this is okay is disgusting and an even worse sin then those committing the murder
"i think its murder but the word is so harsh for simply killing babies... " that's basically what she's saying c'mon man you dont believe this. Killing defenseless babies is EVIL.
"Its murd3r but I don't think you should call it that because it would shine light on what it actually is" is what she said. Just a re-forming of the statement lol. Just wrap the truth in bows and sugar coat it and it'll somehow help.
For me, the conversation ends when she agrees that genocide is the answer to poverty and suffering. Let’s set religion aside on this one. That one does NOT have both oars in the water.
This girl makes me so sad bc I've been there- not on abortion, but in the "I'm a Christian but I don't like people and the less of them the better" stance. She's just so intellectually dishonest and it's good to confront her.
Then: She uses the word “fun” as in a “fun” way of describing abortion…I.e.: “hunting” instead of “murder”. Then: She stops listening. She fidgets. Checks her phone. Looks around her. SHE MUST ESCAPE!, she is obviously thinking. I have no more arguments, she thinks some more. I simply cannot listen anymore. I am losing.
This should certainly be discussed in church. This is probably the first time she was able to discuss openly "as a Christian ". Thank you Russell for pastoring.
Do people forget that you can only grow through struggle and hardships? You think spoiled rich kids ever learn anything being sheltered by their money? I’ll take the poor kid experience any day, builds character.
Well done, Russell! Got to the point, and walked through the appropriation that the pro-abortion use. You pointed out the disconnect that is the carve-out for murder that is abortion.
I love how his demeanor and presentations of the arguments totally depends on the other person. His tone and presentation is spot on. Well done! Love the channel and the message.
What i always find intetesting about these exchanges is how whenever you explicitly state the logical implication of their beliefs (if we can kill unborn children because they may end up impoverished or abused, then do you think we should extend that principle to living people?) They always deflect. Notice how when approached with this moral quandary, instead of addressing it, she simply says "well thats what they used to do." An utterly cowardly, vapid non-answer.
If you do not forgive people who sin against you then you are NOT a child of God. Jesus tought us to forgive those who sin against us if we ask forgiveness for our own sins.
It was a woman’s choice to eat of the fruit of the tree of knowledge, but look where that led us. Just because they think they have a right to it, doesn’t make it the right choice.
The fact that she had to ponder on being in the system or being dead is scary stuff...Christ forgives all sinners who repent and realize that they did wrong, but we would go soooo far to rationalize every wrong decision to suite our world view. My feelings don't equal truth. God equals Truth
Ask a pro abortionist if they’re pro abandonment and watch all the moral arguments come flying out their mouths about how it’s wrong for a man to abandon a child he didn’t want and can’t afford to take care of but all these arguments they used are the same justifications they use for their pro abortion stance.
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You can’t have an opinion on abortion if you weren’t aborted correct??
@@sumatrican5990 slavers gonna slave
I love what you all do. I would love to help. I live in Irving, Texas, and wanted to see if there are abolitionists here in the Dallas area. I put my information in on the website and haven't gotten a response. I'm not sure if I misunderstood the process but thought someone would get ahold of me.
Love your content. And maybe you feel like you have been called do this, so I say respectfully. No scripture asks "you" to go in protest, argue, debate, point out people's particular sins. If this is the worst you are doing you are doing a great job following, I am not judging. I also think the government has no right to life. AND their rights would definitely not trump a womans right to a life that lives off of her body. I hope nobody gets an abortion and if they do, I hope they come to Jesus and repent. BUT that is between them. I know you mean well I really do. BUT God's ways are beyond ours. An abortion could be the very thing that brings them to Jesus.
@@usgamechamp2323 He and his girlfriend got an abortion once.
It's all guilt.
"Im a devout christian who is for abortion and not forgiving sinners."
-girl
You're in a cult.
@@MarshallllllllWalk3r actually, you have made yourself your own god and so you, are in fact, in a cult.
@@13raxx67 I disagree but do see where you're coming from. I don't worship myself, but I do have free will and the idea of original sin is meant to keep us good, I get that. But it doesn't.
you worship abortion
@@MarshallllllllWalk3r anything you put before God is an idol you have made, or in other words, a false god you have made to worship.
A perfect example of someone who doesn't really know the definition of devout.
Not understanding the definition's of words seems to be a real problem in general lately.
@@MarshallllllllWalk3rI’ve never seen you pose an argument, but boy do you get your kicks from 🧌
What? @@MarshallllllllWalk3r
@@Jfchild I don't argue with idiots. You just ignore what's inconvenient and you do it every single time.
@@uknownothingoohkilledem5393 who?
my sister is a devout "Christian" like this. The cognitive dissonance with these people is so surreal.
Religion breeds insanity.
They don’t read their Bible and take it as true and they don’t fear God.
It's what happens when you practice the left-wing death cult. It doesn't need to make sense.
That’s what 14ish years of state sponsored indoctrination will do.
"The Bible is very easy to understand. But we Christians are a bunch of scheming swindlers. We pretend to be unable to understand it because we know very well that the minute we understand, we are obliged to act accordingly."
In 2021 in Florida rape and incest accounted for .001% of abortions. 126 out of 79817 abortions. While elective and social/economic reasons accounted for 95.5%, 76258 out of 79817. It's just disingenuous to argue that it should be legal because of rape.
That's the trend across the country, the gutmacher institute (spelling) and pew research released a study in 2019 (or 2020) about this, shows that year that over 600k abortions were done, less than 5% combined was from rape, incest, and medical complications. Also out of that, only 54% were first timers, and something like 20% were on their third or more abortion. YET THE LIST OF PEOPLE WAITING TO ADOPT NEWBORNS IS LIKE 2 MILLION, it's heartbreaking.
I may be completely wrong, and I only know of this from another channel that speaks to abolish abortion, but isn't the data results of abortions incorrect becasue there is no requirement for reports or data collection of abortion clinics?
I'm not saying the above stated statics are wrong, just curious if my info is inaccurate?
Incest does not matter as it's not really immoral, people keep telling me it is and I'm s psycho but never give me a reason both wether they are for or against abortion.
Rape and INCEST are the same thing.
There is no reason to have separate catagories.
@@johnhedtke7571 lol no they are not you can have incest consensually, rape by nature is not consentual
Their hypotheticals are always the edge cases.
They ignore the vast majority of babies killed for convenience.
And you ignore the vast number of pregnancies that never result in birth. You pretend every pregnancy is viable and that couldn't be further from the truth.
You don't decide what's inconvenient with other people's medical decisions. You never will.
Get a hobby or a real cause. Dehumanizing women isn't going to work out the way you think it is.
You ignore mortality and miscarriage rates.
@@MarshallllllllWalk3r What do you mean by "mortality rates"? What is the cause of the mortality?
Miscarriage without human intervention is a naturally occurring event - typically there is no human action that initiated it. In the case of abortion a human (doctor, mother etc. ) has intentionally introduced something (chemical, or mechanical process) into the otherwise normal growth process of the baby such that it will die.
@@alisterrebelo9013he’s too stupid.
@@MarshallllllllWalk3r
95% of all maternal mortality is in lower income countries and could be prevented by adequate medical assistance, before, during and after childbirth (WHO).
The statistics for infant mortality mirror this fact.
It's just a convient excuse for privileged Western women to avoid responsibility.
I used to be pro-life, then Russell showed me that I was actually an abolitionist who hadn't realised it. Thanks Russell!
Pro choice ?
@@sergeantromanovklov4378 No I meant pro life. Many ex-pro lifers like me used to think that the prolife movement are aiming for abolition of abortion. Many of us have come to realise that this is simply not the case.
The perfect example is OK where there is ample numbers to pass bills to abolish abortion. Russel has an OK prolife representative on camera (knowing he's being recorded) admit that he is not an abolitionist and he merely reflects the people in his district.
I simply refuse to be a part of any movement that continues to find ways to justify special murder rights for human lives.
@@sergeantromanovklov4378 I meant prolife. Like many others I thought the prolife movement had the aim to abolish or eradicate abortion. This is not the case. And I want no part in finding ways to keep special murder rights accessible to women.
@@alisterrebelo9013 oh okay awesome 👍🔥
Yeah it’s an interesting distinction that the pro-abortion camp (I refuse to call them pro-choice anymore) wants people to never know about. It’s easier to dissuade rational people from a pro-life platform than it is an abortion abolitionist stance. (imho)
When progressive people say they are devout Christians, what they really mean is this:
“The only part of the Bible that I like are the parts that talk about love and about not judging others. The end.”
You should try to be more like Jesus instead of weaponizing religion.
@@MarshallllllllWalk3r Yes, I try to be like Jesus. He wouldn’t support women ending the lives of their babies. So yeah, Jesus and I are in agreement 😁
@@adriana12995 Jesus was prochoice, and you don't know what he thinks. Sorry.
James 1:26 If a person thinks that he is religious but can’t control his tongue, he is fooling himself. That person’s religion is worthless.
@@adriana12995 Proverbs 11:9 says, "The hypocrite with his mouth destroys his neighbor, but through knowledge the righteous will be delivered."
@@MarshallllllllWalk3r when you call someone a hypocrite, you must first point out how they are being a hypocrite. Throwing around random words and verses that you don’t understand is fruitless and incoherent. I don’t think that verse means what you think it means.
"I am pro-sin because God is forgiving"
We know.
@@MarshallllllllWalk3r What do you know? With all your spamming, I'm unsure if you know as much as you claim to.
@@alisterrebelo9013 Marshall just does this on all this channels videos. All clown no substance
@@nebenThat he might be, but posting as much as he does is bound to keep engagement of these videos up! YT loves an active comment section
@@cronolink9 I think he's Russells biggest supporter!
So basically she's saying "kill all you want because God is love and will forgive you either way"... Someone hasn't the slightest clue of what repentance is ✔
Neither do you apparently. It doesn't mean "stop sinning". Can you define repentance?
@@lucarich8711
I sure can define repentance for I recently experienced it myself and would highly encourage others to do the same. It is the regenerative work of the Holy Spirit when we are truly repentant (sorry) for living a selfish, self-centered, self-reliant and Godless lifestyle and want to change our behavior thereby giving it up to God. Upon surrendering to God the regenerative process of justification (having been saved from sin and justified), adoption (having been made part of God's family), sanctification (continuously being transformed, made holy, and conformed to the image of Christ) and the future sense of glorification is what repentant Christians anticipate; that one day we will be saved from the presence of sin. A repentant life is a changed life, not in that perfection is ever attained but in that the fruit of repentance - a change in action and attitudes - becomes discernible in a person’s character. A repentant person will hate sin and will live in a way that is pleasing to God... What is your version or understanding of repentance?
@lucarich8711
I sure can define repentance for I recently experienced it myself and would highly encourage others to do the same. It is the regenerative work of the Holy Spirit when we are truly repentant (sorry) for living a selfish, self-centered, self-reliant and Godless lifestyle and want to change our behavior thereby giving it up to God. Upon surrendering to God the regenerative process of justification (having been saved from sin and justified), adoption (having been made part of God's family), sanctification (continuously being transformed, made holy, and conformed to the image of Christ) and the future sense of glorification is what repentant Christians anticipate; that one day we will be saved from the presence of sin. A repentant life is a changed life, not in that perfection is ever attained but in that the fruit of repentance - a change in action and attitudes - becomes discernible in a person’s character. A repentant person will hate sin and will live in a way that is pleasing to God... What is your version or understanding of repentance?
@@lucarich8711
I sure can define repentance for I recently experienced it myself and would highly encourage others to do the same. It is the the regenerative work of the Holy Spirit when we are truly repentant (sorry) for living a selfish, self-centered, self-reliant and Godless lifestyle and want to change our behavior thereby giving it up to God. Upon surrendering to God the regenerative process of justification (having been saved from sin and justified), adoption (having been made part of God's family), sanctification (continuously being transformed, made holy, and conformed to the image of Christ) and the future sense of glorification is what repentant Christians anticipate; that one day we will be saved from the presence of sin. A repentant life is a changed life, not in that perfection is ever attained but in that the fruit of repentance - a change in action and attitudes - becomes discernible in a person’s character. A repentant person will hate sin and will live in a way that is pleasing to God... What is your version or understanding of repentance?
@lucarich8711
I sure can define repentance for I recently experienced it myself and would highly encourage others to do the same. It is the regenerative work of the Holy Spirit when we are truly repentant (sorry) for living a selfish, self-centered, self-reliant and Godless lifestyle and want to change our behavior thereby giving it up to God. Upon surrendering to God the regenerative process of justification (having been saved from sin and justified), adoption (having been made part of God's family), sanctification (continuously being transformed, made holy, and conformed to the image of Christ) and the future sense of glorification is what repentant Christians anticipate; that one day we will be saved from the presence of sin. A repentant life is a changed life, not in that perfection is ever attained but in that the fruit of repentance - a change in action and attitudes - becomes discernible in a person’s character. A repentant person will hate sin and will live in a way that is pleasing to God... What is your version or understanding of repentance?
Yeah this girl’s theology is wanting very badly. Her church has done her an egregious disservice.
Right after R v W was overturned, a local Methodist church put these words on their sign "This is not okay. We are not okay. We will fight for women!"
I was shocked to see this public statement. This is unfortunately what some churches are teaching.
@@Greenie-43x not unborn women, clearly 😢
@@Greenie-43x they’re not part of the body of Christ then
I watched a short clip, right here on youtube, of a church where the "pastor", dressed in a clown costume, performed the chicken dance while giving communion; complete with the song playing over the sound system for everyone to clap to.
With churches like that, no wonder there are "christians" like this.
@@madjack821 sadly, I agree.
The church at large needs to have their hearts convicted of this. Too many are bending to the culture
That really is the problem. This woman really believes she is a devout Christian because so many churches are pushing pro abortion messages. It is really troubling how over half of the churches around have lgbtq flags and have just been taken over by woke ideology.
End times
Amazing to see a full 30 minutes of no one shouting obscenities at you or being rude. Thank you for all y’all do!
I wrote this comment on a short, but I wanted to say here that I love my t shirts and I wear them all the time in my generally liberal coastal city. Nobody has confronted me yet.
I have had a hard life, been victimized a lot, but I am glad for my life. I hope nobody decides my life isn't worth living because of all the trauma.
Awesome!
No one cares, see?
People on all sides of this issue are actually extremely lacking in courage and preparation to defend their views. They might not engage you, but you’ve got them thinking. Keep being bold enough to wear the truth on your sleeves.
@@IJPhiloponus Lol
@@MarshallllllllWalk3r 🧌 cares
"Can you be a Christian and pro-choice? "
Well yes but actually no
Jesus was prochoice
@@MarshallllllllWalk3r 🧌 are pro choice
Sure Jesus is going to come back and look at the aborted babies and say "y'all're doing a fine job". We're supposed to carry our cross and be our brother's keeper.
@@Jfchild sorry buddy, can't see your finger painting
@@sjruruchunchunmaru9070 Jesus was prochoice, but don't pretend that you know what Jesus Would do. You don't. You're just a silly flesh suit with fantasies.
It’s mental gymnastics. I would have made the same arguments as this girl when I was her age. At least she’s open for an honest discussion and has the chance to change her mind in the future.
Hmm..true...true
Did your body count end up in the double digits? Genuine question
Only my husband, as it should be.@@CoercedJab
While I'm sure most people here will generally disagree with her position on abortion, I do believe we can all agree that at least she came to Hunter respectfully and was willing to listen and debate and also didn't use the old tired trope off " You're a man so you can't have an opinion" argument that so many young woman like to use when debating a male abolitionists. I tip my hat to this young lady.
I agree it is nice when people can have a civil conversation using logic.
And why is being "respectful" a thing to be lauded? Don't misunderstand...I'm not condemning self control...far from it. But of what value is "respect" from people who approve of murder? You tip your hat to someone who approves of murder...? Really...?
@@timber72 lol it's not that deep. Regardless of the circumstances, it's always nice to see people freely exercising their freedom of speech to discuss hard topics like this while maintaining professionalism and respect.
@@timber72 Youve seen disrespectful engagement on here many times from the otherside and thats what you advocate for? reallly?
@@gavinr4214while being respectful in of itself is noble, you’re missing the forest for the trees here. What’s more important? Someone being nice or someone having a good sense of morality? Focusing on such a small detail of her politeness does a disservice to focus on the weightier matters, the morality of the issue.
Will you have the same attitude to someone who murders a person on the street. And then he talks to you politely and says why what he did was justified. Will you say to him “good day to you sir I personally disagree with you but I’m glad we could have civil discourse on why you feel it was ok to kill that guy on the street that I have no ties with”.
I don’t tip my hat to people who support murder. It’s not about being belligerent to disagreement but politeness is not the end goal. Justice is.
Responding to 9:17: My childhood best friend was raped by her stepfather and got pregnant, age 12. He forced her against her will to have an abortion. She didn't want to. She thought it was wrong. "Of course" a girl who is raped should have an abortion? What, she doesn't have a say? My best friend died when she was 32 years old. I think there is only so much trauma and betrayal a body can take before it gives out.
I'm sorry to hear about your childhood friend. I agree that the trauma and pain felt from these atrocities can be lethal. I also have a childhood friend whose life was destroyed by the sexual abuse she endured from her mom's boyfriend. She is still alive but she is homeless, drug addicted, severely mentally ill, and incapable of caring for her 2 children. I think about her everyday and I pray for her often. Anyway I hope your friend found peace in the Lord before she passed.
@@PearlsPetalsandPraiseAw thanks. Same here, I think about my friend often, even though it's been decades now since she died. I'm so sorry about your friend. It's so painful to witness, and to remember the beautiful person they were and know what they could've been. I'll pray for your friend. For a miracle, for healing for her. I mean it. Take care.
Well and these people always seem to suggest that the girl's life will be ruined. Ummmm she certainly doesn't have to parent that child if she doesn't want to. Nobody is suggesting that she has to be a twelve year old parent. They're suggesting that allowing that baby to come to term is the right thing to do.
@@thornarts2130 so sorry 😢💜
This story is not quite a 'slam-dunk' argument against abortion rights. Twelve-year-olds have underdeveloped bodies, not ideally designed to carry babies to term. Your friend could have actually died in childbirth, at that young age.
You are as an American granted "...life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness..." and you can't have those when you're murdered without concent
naw sadly that is from the declaration of independence, it's not a law
Poor girl doesn't understand the Gospel if she is questioning if people can be forgiven for sins.
Kids would be better off not being born? Seriously? What a despicable person.
I was raised in poverty. I was abused in terrible ways. I don't regret my life one single bit.
Then she conflates hunting with murder of a child all the while smirking.
I think most of these people don't really understand foster care. Foster care is not an orphanage, the vast majority of children in foster care are not waiting to be adopted. There are an estimated 400,000 children in foster care, of those only 100,000 are actually available for adoption. There are an estimated 2 million couples approved and waiting to adopt a new baby, if you find yourself pregnant with a healthy baby and you don't want it it is very unlikely to end up in foster care (unless you refused to give up your rights to the baby).
"People murder their kids because..."
Girl, nothing you say after that "because" will ever be an excuse for murder.
A good set of questions to ask abortion advocates is:
"What if a particular baby was healthy and would be raised as part of a great family?"
"Would you oppose the abortion in that instance even if the woman wanted the abortion?"
Abortion is murder-period!
Biblically, and medically, it is the premeditated ending of an innocent human being.
Ecclesiastes 11:5
As thou knowest not what is the way of the spirit, nor how the bones do grow in the womb of her that is with child: even so thou knowest not the works of God who maketh all.
Matthew 10:30
But the very hairs of your head are all numbered.
Psalm 127:3
Lo, children are an heritage of the Lord: and the fruit of the womb is HIS reward.
Psalm 139:13-18For you formed my inward parts; you knitted me together in my mother's womb. I praise you, for I am fearfully and wonderfully made.
Marvelous are your works; my soul knows it very well.
15 My frame was not hidden from you,
when I was being made in secret,
intricately woven in the depths of the earth.
16 Your eyes saw my unformed substance; in your book were written, every one of them, the days that were formed for me,when as yet there was none of them.
How precious to me are your thoughts,
O God! How vast is the sum of them!
If I would count them, they are more than the sand. I awake, and I am still with you.
Luke 1:41-44
And it came to pass, that, when Elisabeth heard the salutation of Mary, THE BABE LEAPED IN HER WOMB; and Elisabeth was filled with the Holy Ghost:
42 And she spake out with a loud voice, and said, Blessed art thou among women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb.
43 And whence is this to me, that the mother of my Lord should come to me?
44 For, lo, as soon as the voice of thy salutation sounded in mine ears, THE BABE LEAPED IN MY WOMB FOR JOY.”
Jeremiah 1:5
Then the word of the Lord came unto me, saying, BEFORE I FORMED THEE IN THE BELLY I KNEW THEE; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations
Isaiah 44:24-25
Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and HE THAT FORMED THEE FROM THE WOMB, I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself; That frustrateth the tokens of the liars, and maketh diviners mad; that turneth wise men backward, and maketh their knowledge foolish
26 That confirmeth the word of his servant, and performeth the counsel of his messengers; that saith to Jerusalem, Thou shalt be inhabited; and to the cities of Judah, Ye shall be built, and I will raise up the decayed places thereof
Proverbs 6:16-19
16 These six things doth the Lord hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:
17 A proud look, a lying tongue, and HANDS THAT SHED INNOCENT BLOOD,
18 An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,
19 A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.
Medically:
What happens in the zygote stage?
If a sperm penetrates the egg, fertilization results. Tiny hairlike cilia lining the fallopian tube propel the fertilized egg (zygote) through the tube toward the uterus. The cells of the zygote divide repeatedly as the zygote moves down the fallopian tube to the uterus. The zygote enters the uterus in 3 to 5 days.
The zygote phase lasts only about four to six days, after which the single cell splits rapidly to become a blastocyst and then an embryo.
What makes a zygote alive?
The fusion of the sperm (with 23 chromosomes) and the oocyte (with 23 chromosomes) at fertilization results in a live human being, a single-cell human zygote, with 46 chromosomes, the number of chromosomes characteristic of an individual member of the human species.
At what point does life begin?
The biological line of existence of each individual, without exception begins precisely when fertilization of the egg is successful. The process of fertilization actually begins with conditioning of the spermatozoon in the male and female reproductive tracts.
Does human life begin at conception?
Life Begins at Fertilization with the Embryo's Conception. "Development of the embryo begins at Stage 1 when a sperm fertilizes an oocyte and together they form a zygote." "Human development begins after the union of male and female gametes or germ cells during a process known as fertilization (conception).
Does an embryo have a heartbeat?
At 6 weeks, the embryo's heart is beating rhythmically, and the heart can be easily identified. Its image has been captured for viewers to see. Researchers have found that the presence of a heartbeat at 6-8 weeks indicates that the baby has a very high chance of surviving to childbirth.
Can a fetus feel pain?
* The idea that unborn and newborn babies cannot feel pain is obsolete, refuted by an extensive and growing body of scientific evidence. The myth that unborn babies cannot feel pain comes from a bygone era when newborns were strapped down for surgery without pain relief.[i] The substantial published scientific literature on the topic shows that unborn babies can experience pain at least by 15 weeks gestational age (15 weeks LMP, since Last Menstrual Period, the fetal age estimate used by most obstetricians) or earlier. Two common methods are used to measure the age of an unborn baby: Post-fertilization age or post-conception weeks (PCW), used by embryologists, measures the age of the unborn baby from the actual date of conception, while gestational age measures from the first day of the mother’s last menstrual period (LMP, approx. two weeks before conception). Medical practitioners have been using the latter method as standard medical practice for decades, and for the purpose of this paper, ages refer to gestational age unless otherwise indicated.
* A comprehensive review of the scientific literature[ii] including neural development, psychology of pain sensation, and moral implications of fetal pain, concludes that unborn babies may experience pain as early as 12 weeks. The review notes that neural connections from periphery to brain are functionally complete after 18 weeks. “Nevertheless, we no longer view fetal pain (as a core, immediate, sensation) in a gestational window of 12-24 weeks as impossible based on the neuroscience.” The review points out that a fetus may not experience pain in the same way as an adult, but does indeed experience pain as a real sensation, and that this pain experience has moral implications. Significant because this unbiased review of the scientific evidence and agreement on existence of fetal pain, as early as 12 weeks and certainly by 18 weeks, comes from two highly credentialed medical professionals, one pro-choice. “The two authors came together to write this paper through a shared sense that the neuroscientific data, especially more recent data, could not support a categorical rejection of fetal pain.”
* Embryological development occurs early for pain sensory mechanisms and neurophysiology. The basic anatomical organization of the human nervous system is established by 6 weeks.[iii] Nerve synapses for spinal reflex are in place by 10 weeks.[iv] Pain receptors (nociceptors) begin forming at 7 weeks’ gestational age.[v]
* Nerves linking these pain receptors to the brain’s thalamus and subcortical plate form between 12- and 20-weeks’ gestational age.[vi] The thalamus functions in pain perception in fetuses as well as in adults.[vii]
* Numerous lines of evidence now show the fallacy in the claim that the brain cortex is necessary to experience pain and suffering, including the fact that decordate individuals as well as animals lacking higher cortical structures obviously do feel pain.[viii] In fact, the human brain cortex does not fully mature until approximately 25 years of age, yet infants, children, and teenagers also obviously can experience pain.[ix]
* Fetal reactions provide evidence of pain response. The unborn baby reacts to noxious stimuli with avoidance reactions and stress responses. As early as 8 weeks, the baby exhibits reflex movement during invasive procedures.[x] The application of painful stimuli to an unborn child is associated with significant increases in stress hormones in the unborn child, known as the stress response.[xi] In fact, evidence indicates that subjection to painful stimuli as a fetus is associated with long-term harmful neurodevelopmental effects, such as altered pain sensitivity and, possibly, emotional, behavioral, and learning disabilities later in life.[xii]
* Ruth Grunau, a pediatric psychologist at the University of British Columbia, said, “We would seem to be holding an extraordinary standard if we didn’t infer pain from all those measures.”[xiii]
* Increased sensitivity to pain. In 2010 one group noted that “the earlier infants are delivered, the stronger their response to pain.”[xiv] This increased sensitivity is due to the fact that the neural mechanisms that inhibit pain sensations do not begin to develop until 34-36 weeks , and are not complete until a significant time after birth.[xv] This means that unborn, as well as newborn and preterm, infants show “hyperresponsiveness” to pain.[xvi] Authors of a 2015 study used the fMRI technique to measure pain response in newborns (1-6 days old) vs. adults (23-36 years old), and found that “the infant pain experience closely resembles that seen in adults.” [xvii] Babies had 18 out of 20 brain regions respond like adults, yet they showed much greater sensitivity to pain, responding at a level four times as sensitive as adults.
* Through technological advancements, the peer-reviewed evidence has only become more compelling as ultrasonographic studies have literally given us a window into the womb for the first time. A study published earlier this year found that fetuses at approximately 31 weeks’ gestation grimaced with pain when their thighs were injected with anesthetic prior to a painful intrauterine surgery. Another 2021 study observed the same result - a pained grimace upon being pricked with a needle with anesthetic - with a 23 weeks’ gestation fetus about to undergo heart surgery in the womb.[xviii]
All true. I simply say this. Even if a mother( a woman that is pregnant ) does not have all this information, she does know that the living being inside her womb is her child, and if she does not kill it, it will grow all on it's own, into a full grown baby in a short 40 weeks. It is the 40 week old baby she does not want.
She is justifying killing and saying it's not murder, or murder is a harsher way of putting it because it's better than being in a broken system.
Um we don't kill kids who are in the system so they don't have to suffer anymore. These kids were developmentally the same as the aborted baby.
"iz the way the truth and the life"
"those that hate me
they love death"
- pro life abolitionist
they say abortion pills die eggs
then subconsciously program their kids
easter lets die eggS IN multicolor 🌈 baptism
get those PAS pills
Let's die eggs
Hunt them & after the hunt _______
after the hunt eat
die & eat eggs that should represent a new life
die &eat eggs that should represent being born again
die the eggs in multicolor 🌈 baptism
hunt them down and eat them as 👹 deviled eggs
Yea they use a magic spell d y e
& "pronounce" die
Eggs pronounced dead
Deviled eggs
LGBTQ abortionist didn't steal the rainbow
You programmed them to use the rainbow!!!
Facts! Critical thinking skills, definition. Thank you for not being lazy!
Your attempt to use the Bible as a weapon to force your preconceived dogma on others is sad and, in my opinion, borderline evil. How is it the Jewish faith doesn’t read any of the scriptures you quote in the manner you do? The Old Testament makes clear life begins at first breath - which is why abortion is legal in Israel. Of course, using the Bible which is in no way a science or medical book, as a reference for decisions regarding those topics is folly - and the insistence of some that we do so is a reason record numbers are rejecting religion entirely. (Also I appreciated the deceitful sophistry in your argument, where you cited the reaction of fetuses to pain at levels of development past the point legal under Roe and which in cases of viability were never allowed anywhere in the United States.)
Amazing content, please keep the long form uploads coming!
"Abortion should be legal because God can forgive it"
Can God forgive rape?
"Yes."
So rape should be legal?
"No."
Ok so where is her actual argument?
She's very inconsistent, "allow the mom to kill her baby" and "I don't agree with it." If you dont agree with it, why would you want to allow it?
She understands human rights. You don't.
You can not like something. That's ok.
@MarshallWalk3r oh hey look, it's the troll commenting on everyone's comments. Point and laugh at him, everyone
@@MarshallllllllWalk3r Human rights belong to every living human with a unique human DNA, and that includes a person from their moment of conception (zygote). Sounds like you don't understand what humans and human rights are.
@MarshallWalk3r why do you spend your time hate watching this channel and making a fool of yourself? I'm genuinely curious.
@@panzer00 I do neither.
What else are you curious about?
Pray for this girl. She needs abundant grace :(
If you were alive between 1973 and 2023 ....you survived the modern American Holocaust of the "undesirables". It was one person's choice that determined if you would live or die. Your VERY Blessed to be here.
The holocaust continues.
Oh... her. Definitely wasn't expecting her to be the "devout Christian".
Jesus said:
"...thou shalt not smite the seed of the woman, neither shalt thou slay it when born." (Didache 2:1-2)
The fact that she stays and keeps listening, even though she has very little to say herself, is a good sign. 🕊
I don't know how you do it, Russel. You are so calm and collected. Gotta be the Lord's peace. Shalom and God bless your work!
You're very gifted at this and I feel I'm being trained on how to speak calmly and more slowly when these conversations come up. I always pray for the people you encounter when I watch these. Thank you for getting out there with truth and encouraging us by your actions.
God bless. Yall please keep on the good fight you have changed my mind on abortion. And through your videos i have changed many of my friends and families minds on abortion. It is crazy how many people are willing to over look such precious life and agree to sacrificing children in the name of my body my choice. we have let schools twist a child into a clump of cells a Mear parasite. Thanks for forcing me to open my eyes God bless yall
She's a very nice young lady. She seems open minded on the subject and willing to have a discussion about it. Very soon she will be against abortion.
This is the Important thing for Parents. To teach their children biblical Basics. Thou shalt Not Murder. Otherwise the world will.
As a young person i was on the Only in special circumstances r## , incest, ect. But After raising 2 kids, I knew it was Human Life from day 1, and every stage after.
Thats the Pro life stance, (Exceptions).
There is No Exceptions on Murder of the Innocence.
Cult alert!!
@@MarshallllllllWalk3r The cult of MarshallWalk3r.
@@MarshallllllllWalk3r The modern left is a dangerous cult
If we just stick to the terminology “ending an innocent life,” then all this semantic disagreement wouldn’t be an issue.
Of course it would..their response is "its just a clump of cells...its not living"
😂😂
I think you’re underestimating the mental gymnastics they’re capable of. I’ve called it taking an innocent life and they started arguing with me over if the child is actually innocent. Or even a life at all.
@@BK-im8lrsame, but I continue to call it an innocent human life, or pre-born child as that's exactly what they are 🤷🏻♀️
All their semantics and gymnastics don't change reality
@@astroterf. Yea, I was responding to the person saying that calling it an innocent life would end the semantics game. My point was that abortion supporters will always play the semantics game because that’s all they have to work with.
@@BK-im8lr oh I totally agree, semantics ARE all they have, it's sad really
Any Christ centered man would never marry, and make this woman a mother. Imagine how she will treat you as an elderly spouse, past your prime and in need of a loving spouse.
I never knew people could be more compassionate then God.
For I know the plans I have for you,” declares the Lord, “plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future.
Fact. My mother was 13 years old, and I was adopted. No one talks about the father, who he is. I was born because in 1963, it was a crime to murder child in womb.
I think a lot of people are just claiming Christianity as a title, it's unfortunate because if they are Christians they should live the Christian values.
Jesus was prochoice.
@@MarshallllllllWalk3r thou shalt not murder, 👉🏻🤪
@@MarshallllllllWalk3r Jesus was a lot of things but not pro-choice to murder your children
@@anarchytelevision8445 Murder is already illegal, I don't need some Bible BS.
@@MarshallllllllWalk3r 🤦🏼
Being a pro choice Christian.. is a oxymoron...
SO she agrees with Margaret Sanger🤔
Dad, what is an example of oxymoron? Me: "Pro-abortion devout Christian".
Wow! In the first 30 seconds I can tell she is nowhere near a devout Christian. She says she can’t forgive several things. I wonder if she’s ever heard “forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us.” Her refusal to forgive others will be a detriment to her soul. It seems like her devotion is mostly to herself. 🤦♂️
When she says, "that's how they used to do it," is she saying that should continue? I think the proper response would be, "that logically follows, I guess."
More like a devout hypocrite.
Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? Romans 6:1
Matthew 7:21 (KJV) Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
That contradicts the Protestant heresy of "justification by faith alone."
@@j.knight9335do works save you? Or those the Holy Spirit in us create good works?
Galatians 2:16 (KJV) Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.
@@stevenstahl2219 God saves you. God also clearly teaches that must follow the commands of Christ and avoid grave sin in order to keep that free gift. That's what all Christians believed before the Protestant revolution in the 16th century.
@@stevenstahl2219 That refers to the old Mosaic Law. Paul clearly teaches that justified people can lose the grace of salvation through grave sin. He even says that he could become a reprobate.
Saying you’re a devout Christian doesn’t make you one
I love it, devout Christian, who is pro abortion and talking half woke that is a contradiction in terms.
The short term for it is called "oxyMORON".
No way Christ would have anything to do with abortion
@abolitionists rising. Please talk to Pastor Troy Brewer of Open Door Church in Burleson Texas about littles”hobbits” as he calls them that he and his ministry teams rescue from sex trafficking. They have snd do have 10, 11, 12 year old girls that get pregnant and HAVE their babies and LOVE them! He could tell you stories you wouldn’t believe. But you need a new response to the little girl who gets pregnant hypothetical. 👍
If you're a young female who gets her period that means that biologically you are ready to give birth, it still should be looked down upon in our society because of the age restrictions, however, it does not mean she will die, giving birth is a biological process and natural.
I really wish people would use these talking points:
If someone kills a pregnant woman (and the baby dies), the killer is charged with 2 murders. If a woman gets an abortion, why isn't she charged with murder? Why is one ok, and the other isn't?
Also, those same people are against the death penalty, but they have no problem killing an innocent child.
Because its her choice.
Also a clump of cells isnt an innocent child.
Great interaction. She will go on to change her positions one day - AND impact others!
Seeds planted will grow!
The sickest part of this video is the reality of having to convince the 'Christian' woman that abortion is murder. The unbeliever is expected to think like the world but the Christian, if they are truly a Christian, shouldn't even have a second thought about it being wicked.
We have to remember the name "Christian" can be taken by anyone nowadays. This is why I call myself "a follow of Hamashiac/המשיח" (one of the reasons), because the title of Christian is so so very tainted. It's very wicked to think that it's ok to k1ll a child, Christian or not but ESPECIALLY if you're "Christian". Especially because we know children a gifts from The Most High. Pray for the ignorant and the confused🤕
How do I get involved? I see there's no groups in Western Wisconsin, I have time and energy and I want to help!
I'm willing to sit down with any politician in the state anyone holding office, go to any school, or public event!
I don't know of anyone off the top of my head, but if you join our Facebook group you should be able to find some folks in your area!
facebook.com/groups/freethestates/?ref=share
good luck Steven and thank you.
@@AbolitionistsRisingthank you, I will make a Facebook!
Do you guys have any plans on coming to Wisconsin?
Not currently, but maybe in the future. We've been to some of your schools out there and they're crazy haha.
@@AbolitionistsRising UW Lacrosse needs your presence!
feminism did a number on this one
He made a great point. Making abortion safe is protecting the person who murders. Its a repercussion of not following the law and doing something immoral.
I think it’s interesting how in so many of these videos, the person trying to challenge just simply moves from one general sound bite to the next. So predictable.
Thank you Russel and AHA for being the ones to say this is evil and not good! As a women who knows the extreme depths of drapravity in this world I appreciate you. The fact that society is telling girls and women in an unstable state of mind that this is okay is disgusting and an even worse sin then those committing the murder
God bless you and what you and your church do .
She was at least polite and courteous, think she will ponder the conversation and change her mind
"i think its murder but the word is so harsh for simply killing babies... " that's basically what she's saying c'mon man you dont believe this. Killing defenseless babies is EVIL.
"Its murd3r but I don't think you should call it that because it would shine light on what it actually is" is what she said. Just a re-forming of the statement lol. Just wrap the truth in bows and sugar coat it and it'll somehow help.
She's not the brightest crayon in the box is she?
That's the mush mind that comes out of public indoctrination centers (schools).
You make great arguments. At the end of the day, they are stubborn. Mentally and spiritually stubborn.
For me, the conversation ends when she agrees that genocide is the answer to poverty and suffering. Let’s set religion aside on this one. That one does NOT have both oars in the water.
This girl makes me so sad bc I've been there- not on abortion, but in the "I'm a Christian but I don't like people and the less of them the better" stance. She's just so intellectually dishonest and it's good to confront her.
Then:
She uses the word “fun” as in a “fun” way of describing abortion…I.e.: “hunting” instead of “murder”.
Then: She stops listening. She fidgets. Checks her phone. Looks around her.
SHE MUST ESCAPE!, she is obviously thinking.
I have no more arguments, she thinks some more. I simply cannot listen anymore.
I am losing.
Sickening that she is wearing a cross.
This should certainly be discussed in church. This is probably the first time she was able to discuss openly "as a Christian ". Thank you Russell for pastoring.
Do people forget that you can only grow through struggle and hardships? You think spoiled rich kids ever learn anything being sheltered by their money? I’ll take the poor kid experience any day, builds character.
Well done, Russell! Got to the point, and walked through the appropriation that the pro-abortion use. You pointed out the disconnect that is the carve-out for murder that is abortion.
I like this argument of not appropriating the 13-year-old girl's pain and I'm going to use it.
I love how his demeanor and presentations of the arguments totally depends on the other person. His tone and presentation is spot on. Well done! Love the channel and the message.
No Christian is pro-choice.
We don't join any groups.
I'm so thankful for this ministry.
And 4 minutes in, condoning genocide lol
I thought this comment was hyperbole, then I made it to the 4 minute mark...
@@Joelthinkershit blew my mind
She condoned the killing of "homophobes" about 19 mins in
It’s literally an evolution of nazi ideology
What i always find intetesting about these exchanges is how whenever you explicitly state the logical implication of their beliefs (if we can kill unborn children because they may end up impoverished or abused, then do you think we should extend that principle to living people?) They always deflect. Notice how when approached with this moral quandary, instead of addressing it, she simply says "well thats what they used to do." An utterly cowardly, vapid non-answer.
If you do not forgive people who sin against you then you are NOT a child of God.
Jesus tought us to forgive those who sin against us if we ask forgiveness for our own sins.
Wow, she is so ignorant. She thinks it’s wrong but people should still be able to murder.
Pray for this girl
A mom can get arrested and get her child taken away if she's willingly using drugs while pregnant. Now get that one right how's that logic make sense
But if you do not forgive others their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.
Mathew 6:15
It was a woman’s choice to eat of the fruit of the tree of knowledge, but look where that led us. Just because they think they have a right to it, doesn’t make it the right choice.
She’s a walking oxymoron
She made it through the system, is in college with all the potential in the world but is seriously considering abortion for others. SMH
Where there is life, there is hope. "Even this BS beats dead" Sadie Adler.
We need to teach this young woman the definition of the word “devout!”
I love what you all do. God bless
I wasn’t ready for my first son either it was time to grow up and take responsibility
I love the way Russell engages with people. God bless him ❤
Hey, that was a good exchange. Almost no one is willing to flip their views right away, but hopefully they’ll give it some thought
You can almost see the lightbulb go on in her head.
But she will NEVER admit it.
What is going on with the lightbulb?
The fact that she had to ponder on being in the system or being dead is scary stuff...Christ forgives all sinners who repent and realize that they did wrong, but we would go soooo far to rationalize every wrong decision to suite our world view. My feelings don't equal truth. God equals Truth
Ask a pro abortionist if they’re pro abandonment and watch all the moral arguments come flying out their mouths about how it’s wrong for a man to abandon a child he didn’t want and can’t afford to take care of but all these arguments they used are the same justifications they use for their pro abortion stance.
How is her audio so clear?
The change in the mindset of women from 1924 to 2024 is quite stark.