The Web has lost its Soul - LOVEWEB
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- Опубліковано 26 вер 2024
- Terrified at the sight of Cybermare being hypnotised by UA-cam shorts, Manon shows her how the modern internet could learn a thing or two from the old web.
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Give them lots of love!!They did an awesome job!
Yeah great work to everyone who contributed to this!
Good that You no longer used those Ai voices and supported small voice actors/actresses
I’ll check on’em ^w^ (btw i still haz manon art on DeviousDelt hehehew , this is the last plug of my art , i’d stop at 2 before i really show off my narcissistic side-)
They are great!
Great work! Especially new Manon's voice, it's just amazing! Only one small issue, Cybermare's voice should be little quieter for balanced sound. Thanks for your work, love your vids)
Neocities is mad underrated. It's the only place where the web 1.0 charm still exist that's easy to navigate.
Neos is amazing!! I'm on there all the time.
agreed, currently using it myself
Neocities still exists?
@@tiobridge841 When the hell did I imply it didn't.
@@ringkunmori no no, I just thought it died a long time ago
Kenny and vera did amazing, they really capture the character’s vibe while adding a little something new
Yo completely unrelated but I ADORE your pfp :D
@@lunarlynx5972ME TOO!!! invader zim AND bisexual?!?!?!?!? two of the coolest things EVER!!!!
@@Ikigai_Composes ik, i am so cool and special for being a bisexual zim kinnie lmao
@@Ikigai_Composes ratsism
@@EvilSantaTheTrue ratsism?
manon's voice actor did such a good job i didn't even notice it wasn't text to speech anymore for a good minute or so. fits like a puzzle piece very well.
cybermare's is a bit more clear but still fits her perfectly. sounds exactly like the edgy fifteen year old we all know she kins
and i'm excited to see this help further the web revival movement. it feels good to be able to ACTUALLY surf the web now
hi i voiced manon, thank you so much! that's great to hear
@@Kenny_Kenbee you did good! you're awesome!
Yeah you did good😊
i feel called out by the "14 year olds who make up most of our audience" part
Me too. How did they know that 14 year Olds make up most of their audience. It's almost like youtube tells them in the statistics tab or something
@@salderrsame it’s so weird that they know that they must be doing something shady to know it’s primarily 14 year olds
@@salderr I'm surprised that more people aren't lying about their age
@@kingdededelicious well the minimum age is 13 so you just put 13
is that blue calamus in your pfp
I felt this way too. For a while, I've just been cycling UA-cam Reddit on my phone. I've been trying to avoid Tiktok because of that "zombie" feeling. Like Cybermare, I also realized there is so much astroturfing, ai generated articles, and low effort content on social media and it makes me frustrated.
I wanted to make a website, but it's quite daunting. I can do the programming, but I struggle to make some interesting content. I wonder what I could blog about...
Also, I like the interaction part at the end of this episode of LoveWeb. Instead of the usual "Like and Subscribe" (which kinda insenuates staying on the Core Web), there is a call-to-action to go try doing old web type stuff. It reminds me of old children's shows (The UpsideDown Show). Love it!
Cybermare made a really strong point about nostalgia bait, just about every example of a fresh and unique website shown was very millennial centric with its 90s to Y2K look. When I'm not on core web I spend a lot of time on wikis, fan sites that were primarily about information about a piece of pop culture have been completely replaced by them. Fandom could be said to be core web, but I peruse many fan owned ones too. How could you even compete against them? A glaring omission was old school web hangouts like forums being endangered thanks to Discord, social media etc. A lot of valuable content and interesting discussions are preserved in forums, DIscord isn't searchable by a search engine nor does it preserve content like a forum does.
@@protocetid Fandom feels like a diet core-web site. It's managed to buy its way into owning a virtual monopoly over fan-wikis, all the while making its end user experience insufferable (especially on mobile, where you can't spend 5 seconds without getting spammed with a dozen ads that drain your battery by 10 to 30%).
I get the need for ad-revenue, especially as such a massive platform, but the least you could do is make your site, y'know, useable. Same goes for a lot of cooking websites.
That because people in this society follow Joseph schumpeters footsteps in his creative destruction
So incredibly proud to have worked on this! Loveweb has been a favorite of mine for a long time, and the fact I get to input on it is genuinely crazy! Vera did an incredible job as Cybermare and I look forward to working with her! Shadok blew it out of the water as usual with the animation and storytelling. You all are in for a treat during this premiere!
Hello 👋:D (Nice job!) Loveweb is now my favorite! 😁
Very awesome
It hasn’t premiered yet but I’m sure you did a great job! Will update once I’ve seen the video lol
Sorry you got super sick this week
lmao its all cool@@ShockedTaiLung
After watching this, both Kenny and Vera absolutely killed it with the voice acting
Although i will be honest, Cybermares voice doesnt sound the same, but i still love it regardless
Looking forward to more episodes!!! 🎉
yeah i was worried it would feel completely different switching to VAs, but they did a really good job on it :3
@@Sleepy_Cattt same, glad it went out well
Ywa it swunds diffewently... It isnt bawd but i need tw get used to it :^
niko pfp
I thought I would miss the digitalness of their voices, but not at all! The VAs have killed it! Big props.
This is the only project I was actively observing on CastingCall and I just knew Kenny was gonna voice Manon after hearing it, I could tell he really understood Manon and what they were supposed to sound like, I haven't heard Vera yet so I think I'll keep it a surprise for myself, I'm sure it'll be just as fitting.
thats so nice omg 😭tysm!
If you want old web back, people must want the old web. The internet nowadays is the "coreweb". Lots of people don't even know what it was before. I don't know what it was before. If you want this to be back, it needs to provide some value. But it's hard to do with the old internet because it's unpredictable. Or atleast that's my best guess. Basically the periferies must provide something that core web can't. Dunno what that would be though.
Personally, periphery websites are more personal and don't have the vibe of big tech companies profiting off user-generated content. I admire how people go through the huge effort of learning to make a website so that they can self-express or provide information or have something cool to share with others.
It's not going to happen, because means of cultivating what people like is in hands of biggest groups, which want their mainstream sites being the first choice, being wanted the most and nothing else. Companies going to do anything to kill competitors in the crib, so they could keep pushing their own thing. Because its a way of making money.
maybe we should first start off with what value does the coreweb have. i think the biggest reason why people flock to those big websites, is convenience.
people want to carve out a space and share who they are and what they do or make. a youtube, a twitter, a facebook, or even a google lets you express a tiny sliver of that for the low cost of already owning a computer. this is not the only convenience either. its easier to find new stuff when it just shows up on your feed. its easier to communicate when theres a standardized messaging service built into these applications. its easier to plug in your email address and screen name and that makes your account.
once that infrastructure was built, people flocked to them and we ended up where we are now.
the old web revival movement does have value in and of itself tho.
it is harder to make a website, but why not? learning coding is fun, its a useful skill, and the world is only getting more digital.
even with the most basic understanding of html you can make something that expresses your interests or what you want to express than a tweet or a header can provide.
it is also harder to find new websites, or to communicate if everyone is in different places. but its also fun to click around on websites to see where it takes you, its fun to see who cared enough to put a link to another website that that person liked. the surprise me/roulette option is another really cool way to discover sites out there.
and with communication, theres tons of ways to communicate now. we're not only limited to email, IMing, or forum DMing now, although these all rule in their own way.
i dont think the value of old web stuff is to replace what the core web has stamped all over the place. they simply have had too much money and time sunk into them that they're here to stay. but that doesn't mean old web can't exist or shouldn't be championed.
we should have options to how to participate in the web. its like finding a place to call home. there's houses, apartments, townhomes, duplexes, studios, boathouses, etc. everyone needs a place to call home and everyone theoretically should be able to choose or at least change what place they call home.
the coreweb is full of apartments, places where tons of people call home if they don't want a personal space. commerce, conversation, and advertising are easiest here, but it leaves some space to be desired.
the old web is full of houses and boathouses. more work certainly, like upkeep and cost, but its also bigger, more customizable. its also more private, so you can explore and create to your heart's content.
just like in the real world, if there's a lack of diversity in homes, things can get pretty bad. the insane amount of houses in the us makes for horrible infrastructure and resource depletion. and the focus on houses as the only way to live makes apartment living and other forms of housing harder to be a part of, so everyone strives to get a home. but then it only continues the problem of only having houses.
the world wide web is filled with apartments and not enough homes, which is funny because theoretically the web should be incredibly vast. it should be able to accomodate so many homes compared to the real world. but we've grown up in these apartments owned by these landlords that seek to profit off of us and advertise us nonsense, limiting the space for people to be people and put them into smaller places.
neither personal websites or social media are inherently bad ideas, they both have positives and negatives. but if all the sites are the same, we lose out on the diversity and specialness that multiple websites provide.
i really really love this.
i want this piece of media on youtube to stay alive. love your work.
0:11 the keyboard being taped back together is a nice touch
Really loving the voice for Cybermare, it fits her disaffected and cynical nature perfectly. Frankly I think it's much better than the AI Maud voice, and that alone made me adjust to it without trouble.
Started learning HTML because of this^^
Update: still learning!! My dad is helping me with CSS stuff rn and I think this video has actually introduced me to a whole new interest. Also I love you neocities aaaggahh
The new voices are really nice!! tbh manon's old voice was kinda annoying but just tolerable enough
usually voice changes dont end up better then originals but considering the old ones were Uberduck-like TTS's
this one is a welcome change :3 you guys can put way more expressiveness into the characters now!
as a 25 year old who's felt extremely disenfranchised with the modern web, THANK YOU!! i could neither place why it felt off and what i could do to change that. i can't believe the core web has become so big that it made me forget that the internet is an infinite space. i had a blast looking through a bunch of archived geocities pages just today and i felt that same joy and spark of exploring the kinds of websites i would've as a kid at the library. every website is like a little gift box waiting to be opened, you never know what you'll see!! even with tumblr, it used to illicit that same kind of curiosity with the old freedom of HTML customization but a lot of those pages have been broken by the modern design trying to shove everyone into one big mobile friendly template, it's really tragic. this video really inspired me to try to go out and make my own website, thank you for the resources!
Old good new bad blah blah blah
@@vitorhenriquefarias8916 Cybermare during this episode in a nutshell:
I'm so excited, knowing how shadok videos usually are, this is going to be something crazy! The excitement is real
This is amazings!!! I love Manon and Cybermare’s new voices, I know I don’t talk much in comment sections, but I just wanted to tell u that you all did great on this! :D
i wonder if cybermare and manon would have different voice actors each loveweb episode, as if they were using audio visualizers to change them.
they will not, (unless shadok gets rid of us lmao) very cool idea tho!
@@Kenny_Kenbee ah, alright
It really is nice seeing you talk about this!! Btw if you have a neocities I'd love to see it! :D more people need to get back into web 1.0 vibe stuff!
shadok* UA-cam won't let me edit the comment for some reason
Links to shadok's and loveweb's neocites are in the description. Hope that helps!
OH GOD EDOLON PFP
@@creeperdude3480 I never got into Homestuck, IIRC it was an experimental web comic and a great example of how unique peripheral web can be. Really should've been mentioned.
home stuck
I personally didnt get to experience the early days of the internet so im really thankful that this series documents them this well. Amazing work as always, and great job new voice actors and everyone involved in this project.
Omg!! I'm so glad I stumbled onto this. I've been kinda despairing over the state of the net in recent years, having grown up during the "wild west" era of the Internet in the 2000s. Thank you for making more people aware of these resources!
I HEART THE VOICE ACTING!! ive always loved these but ive had a hard time listening to the ai voices, the voice actors did a wonderful job!
I love the voice acting, it gives the characters so much personality❤
man I miss the old internet.. I cant one single day without complaining about modern web design in some way. and now we have youtube blocking users for using adblockers when nearly 90% of users who use adblockers only installed one specifically BECAUSE of youtube and their overly aggressive advertising that interrupts videos too much with too many unskippable ads. there is no argument that can be made that any update to any website is being done to make it better. they only make the user experience worse so they can profit off us more, because in the end, we're the product.
god I hate capitalism.
looks like somebody needs to take a nap
Shut up neoliberal or libertarian
@@JonathanHeydh-vy4yw Let them talk, everyone got an opinion.
Kenny and Vera did a great job as the new voices. Kinda miss the robotic voices from the ai voices tho. Obviously since that’s off the table, maybe just add some filters on them like flanger or bit crush
Good job to the VA's for this one!
Also damn Cybermare's Speech about Egalitarianism is very Thought-provoking
Well, this is new. Goodbye, MLP A.I. voices. Hello, official VAs!
Good-ass episode, loved the new voices and Cybermare genuinely had me laughing with how some of the lines were delivered. Great job!
This is amazing, this channel, it's so cute, it's so free. Free to be cute cat or cute pony, the delivery is pure quality and informative. Thank you for going for this style.
wow this actually is recommended to me at the perfect time! I'm definitely making a website for myself. This'll be my first time actually learning to do something like this- so html knowledge from 0% to hopefully master levels soooon! Can't wait to share it with friends and try n start really personalizing the internet again !!!
This sires is criminally underrated for the level of effort required to make something like this.
It's a little daunting to hear real people voicing these characters, but I'm sure I'll get used to it after a while.
We ❤ The new VA's of Loveweb.
6:26 nice little easter egg/fun fact:
This blog post was a secret found in Spamton Sweetstakes a while ago as a lore hint for future chapters of deltarune.
Dame CyberMare getting deep
Really like the new voices! When the announcement came out that they were gonna change I was afraid they would lose their charm (as weird as it sounds to find robotic voices charming) but, to my surprise, they're spot on with the characters!
thank you so much!
@@Kenny_Kenbee Amazing job! :D
"probably a firefox extension that blocks youtube shorts"
you know what that's a great idea I should look that up and grab it
Around 2018-20 I had this sudden realization that all I ever did was hop around the big social media sites, and I suddenly longed for all those quirky distinct website I used to frequent. I put in a good deal of effort to return to some old message boards and forums, to bookmark some favorite blogs and so on. I miss the pre-2010s internet, I have to admit.
Oh my god it’s great to have you back and especially with non-ai voices!
This was amazing!! Glad to hear the new VAs! Manon's VA fits them like a glove and the same goes with Cybermare!
...sooo somewhat off topic, but I've been building my own site on Neocities, and while it's been a work in progress for a while, I've got some ideas. :P Can't wait to properly launch it!
manon uses they/them!
@@Bulba413 whoops. I fixed it. :P
Horray, they're back!
whats more sad is that what brought alot of life into these sites was Flash and early forms of animation
great work on this one!! real excited for more new neocities pages & projects to explore!
The voice actors were amazing, great job on this episode.
Can't Wait!
Edit: HOLY SH*T the voices are so good! so glad to be part of the primere with everyone!
Anything that companys monoplise becomes boring and addicting...
I found this video while working on my Neocities!! I recently deactivated and moved on from main social media, and I'm only using UA-cam, Discord, and Neocities. It's been soooo refreshing. I love that this video exists, so I can show people why I've decided to get off main social media :3
Also seeing the Deltarune blog thing jumpscared me because my website is 100% a copy of that because I'm a Noelle introject. LOL
I Genuinely just don't use social media outside of UA-cam and I think it's great.
Infinity scroll broke the internet. With pages you don't get the constant temptation of checking everything out.
I mean, all ships become a ship of Thesus when u replace all the things from Canon.
Damn, deep
I've Never seen this channel before but I belong here
I like how now that i'm deep in the homestuck sauce i recognize the aspect of void staff that cybermare has propped in the corner
Omg the new voices are so cool and cute i love them!!
I'm basically an Veteran of UA-cam. I flipping remember When ads weren't on UA-cam, their was a dislike button for people's BS, lies and messed stuff. There was no content farm, no weird shitty “Family UA-camrs nor no Jake Paul.
Corporatization has not only ruined the internet but also other things like Windows. Remember when Windows had windows? That seemed to have been too complicated for even the corporate behind Windows itself and so they replaced the windows of Windows with plain white walls with things pinned on them. They might as well rename their OS to Walls. Remember how UA-camrs used to be able to customize their whole user page? All that's left is a banner and the pfp. Easy and charmless.
I'd say that it won't hurt the internet if fell back to it's original roots, although I think it shouldn't go full 90s. That would make the programming language PHP useless. There are some modern things I like about websites, such as circular objects and elements flying into screens, but we shouldn't make entire sites out of that, for heaven's sake. I hate it when they do that and their page is just one big vector graphics animation. I think keeping most of the 90s charm and human touch, combining it with a few modern elements would do the trick.
This video was a great reminder of why the internet doesn't feel the same anymore and why it's boring now.
It did however remind me of something else though. It reminded me that internet has not just been ruined by one thing, but multiple things. One other big thing that destroys the internet, for me at least, are the constant, omnipresent discussions about politics.
For the last FUCKING time, I don't want to become a communist!
Great video regardless. Very educational.
(If there was a "return to human comments" movement, I'd be a part of it.)
Hit it right there with the last part. The rampant liberalism of this movement does throw me off. While I do like and support the main objective, we shouldn't bring all the unnecessary bullshit over.
@@Cristopherdreamer to nitpick, but liberalism is free market capitalism, not communism
Did you know The word the modern comes from the Latin word modō meaning just now but it had a different meaning and I know etymology and I don’t get why most people don’t know etymology and tech it in schools
I really love the new voice actors for manon an cybermare!
I must say, the new voice actors did great, hope to see more!
This has motivated me! I have a website for all my creative projects that was on a big website builder, but now I'm gonna move to Neocities. Thanks LOVEWEB!
Be aware that neocities has some restrictions
i had a feeling you'd cover neocities at one point, this video was so good!! ! ! >w
3:27 YOOO ITS MELON KING!!! Let's gooooo, top tier personal website.
Thank you so much for showing me neocities! I love it there!
Oh my god the VAs are so good!!!!
DUDE I LOVE THEIR NEW VOICES OMFGGGGGGGGG!!!
awesome voice actors, they sound perfect. please keep them around, Manon is even cuter
it’s a shame that the most recent video got more views than this series
this video is still charming and well made as all of the episodes are
Gasp, they upgraded their voice modules to have VA add-ons!
Another fantastic video! This is an idea/concept that I can get behind, and it's unfortunate how the Core Web ended up the way that it did, and that most are fine with it thanks to the convenience of it.
Also, Monon & Cybermare's VAs did great work here. They both sound really good, and the performance felt like they did in earlier episodes except more expressive and human. Can't wait for more!
amazing as always, new voices absolutely killed it. thank u loveweb team
i just started, moments ago looking at the old web because of this video, and im just blown away this is so.. itself? its like a real person made this stuff, it doesnt feel corporate and sterile. its so expressive i love this.
edit: i just realised its been like an hour and not just a few moments of looking at these websites. lmao
I almost dont even wana go back to youtube or any other site, this just feels, better? i feel more connected i guess is a better way to put it, im excited i dont feel like im scrolling anymore, i dont WANA scroll anymore, i want to get away from that now that ive found this im not looking back.
edit: im lost where am i
thank you, Shadok for showing me this wonder, i wont be leaving lol
I dunno if resurrecting the eye-gouging nature of Web 1.0 is necessarily what people were thinking when they said they 'miss the halcion days of the internet'. That's not exactly the way to build a community; you need chatrooms and forums for that.
The internet changing is because of corpos and conglomeration and all that other jazz, but it's also because people changed. We find a lot of things from the early days 'cringe' now. You can undo as many systems as you want, change as much of the consumption you have as you wish, but... ultimately you can't change CULTURE like that. Trying to hang on to the culture that came with it ignores that things are very different now and people's values have changed both on and off-line. You can't ever recapture a culture, because it was reliant on everything else going on in the world at that exact moment in time.
That’s because this society is mostly brainwashed by capitalism and neoliberalism and I think your a right libertarian or a liberal or conservative
That’s because this society or country so called culture is based on the ideas and beliefs of the Western European Enlightenment
We need socialism or degrowth and abolish capitalism and neoliberalism
In the darkest moment, when we needed them most, they returned
THESE NEW VOICES FEEL SO REAL (bc it izzz)
guys i don't get the addiction i get extremely bored after scrolling for more than 10 minutes on either tiktok, twitter, shorts, etc. (it MIGHT be my autism)
I am however obsessed with the old internet as a gen z who craves experiencing a little of how the birth and starting growth of the internet felt like 😭 like bro i know it had bad things but the good things were so mf cool
loveweb is everything!!! so many years ive spent on the internet and this is my favorite video series ive ever found here!!
great, now I have a sudden interest in making a website and picking up coding again. Thanks loveweb!!! Love the new voices too
tasty lessons to be learned! great animation as always! love the voice acting!
First video I ever seen from you but golly do I love this! The everything here! I've been very nostalgic recently over the old web as I have taken a small spin of playing on old consoles and games recently and so forth.
This is such a charming and informative video!
I am so thankful for staying up til 2 am watching this almost as if it is the old web once more.
I love this!!! honestly I think after seeing that you have your own website (maybe like a couple months ago) is when I saw how the community and cool websites I see on the internet archive or just random sites I see online is still thriving on neocities or other cool places was really awesome! I haven't made my own website on neocities but I've made a lot of other places and I think I really want to get into making sites for whatever!
also I think Kenny's voice on manon works really well!
no disrespect to vera but their voice might need a bit of time to get used to.
oh look they have real voices now :D
The problem with this old web revival movement is that if you post something on the internet, you want someone to see it, otherwise you wouldn't've done that. And majority of the users are on the core web, and they won't be bothered to look for content that's hosted elsewhere, so if you don't host it on the core web, it's like you don't host it anywhere. And if you have a presence on both core and peripheral web, then your personal webpage is secondary to your profiles on social media.
Just like how you host this show on UA-cam instead of their competitor(e.g: Rumble) or on your own page.
The new voices are great!
Ahhhh i love the voices!! They feel much more natural and cute!!
Let's go! New loveweb video!
Thank you again for a wonderful video, idk how to explain it but this video explains how much stuff haves changed, and that people should know about it and how not to join the hell hole that modern net does to people
its funny how i act like Cybermare but i think like Manon
The internet was once a place to get away from the world. Now the world is a place to get away from the internet
For anyone looking to independently look any further into independent corners of the internet, I recommend the wiki host Miraheze! Especially good for hosting one's own wiki, Miraheze hosts a vast variety of personal and private wikis, whether it be for personal worldbuilding projects, wikis for one's lanugage, or in my own case, a wiki dedicated to Japanese music!
I love LOVEWEB!!! It pains me to see manon in such a bad mood. Its not like him to complain for 8 minutes and not even go on any whacky adventures
The net has fallen, billions must revert
Blackpilled again, it's over.
Ah yes, the Ship of Theseus: a hypothetical pairing of Theodora and Shmeseus from the famous but short lived original web series Plutarch's Kids.
You had to double check I made that up, didn't you.
no
this is fantastic. so happy to discover this. binging all other episodes.
love the voice acting
Wait! There’s a movement on making the internet healthy again?! Where is this website? I wanna join! The internet sucks now. Too much negativity and idiocy. And conformity. I want to go back to the days where going on a website is fun and an enjoyable experience. I wanna join this movement.
Go back to your nostalgia bait
Looks like you have a case of recency bias and you’re mostly a pro capitalist and a liberal or neoliberal and right libertarian or conservative
I'm glad i randomly found this channel one day...and yet found about loveweb and his passion to old internet and then evenabout all this moove
This brings hopes not just for internet...but real world as well
Also "i'm not nostalgic...i'm outragous!"
Let me writt to myself it somewhereXD
I wish to see loveweb turning into some big indi animation project or something...that would be coou and...would fit it perfectly
Cybermare has a point though
As much as we want things to go back to how they use to be, that likely won't happen because of the big corperates and monopolies that changed it to what it is now. It became something that is a part of our lives and capitalism found a way to take advantage of that. And no matter how much we want things to go back, the only thing thats stopping us is the unbreakable and unnegotiable wall of corperate greed. And all this isn't even mentioning the bane that is woke culture and cancel culture.
If it exists, people will find a way to exploit it for money no matter how publicly accessible it is
We need degrowth or socialism or anarchy
"though things may look very dark
your dream is not in vain
for when do you find the rainbow?
only after rain"
lmao the fact that the blog of noelle from deltarune is in this vid is hilarious
I love these new VA's!!!!
Its really relatable thanks for your vid
Companies get money as long as you are using their apps, so its their desire to keep you on it as long as possible in whatever means necessary
Started making a neocities page while high last night thanks to this video. And now I just can't stop going in and working on liiittle adjustments while I get the hang of things so I can go all-in with the graphical side of things later