Why YOU Should Make a Website!
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- Опубліковано 9 вер 2024
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Hey everyone! Today I wanted to talk about the state of the internet, how artists and everyone is affected by AI slop and social media, and why I think everyone should have a personal website these days! Let's bring back the old school internet in new, fun, and creative ways! ^_^
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💜 im gonna post a follow up vid on some tips on making your own website + responding to some comments!! be sure to subscribe so u will see when its out :3 thank u all so much for all ur input - i've been reading the comments and am really glad to hear all your opinions
I sorry u yap a bit too much edit ur video like get straight to the point
Hii your website link doesn't work for me Idk whyy it says "This site can’t be reached
Try:
Checking the connection
Checking the proxy and the firewall
Running Windows Network Diagnostics"
@@nihiqallam5616 make your own vid
My comment seems to be glitching.
But I felt this frustration too.
Then I learned about Neocities.
It's bringing back the old crazy website energy
@@nihiqallam5616hey, don't be an ashole.
Okay? Yapping is a more genuine and nuanced form of communication.
Free yourself from the shackles of your short attention span.
on the topic of dead internet theory - I hate that its harder to find these fun websites because our search engines now prioritize websites that have pumped a ton of money into advertising or are tailored for heavy traffic. Google no longer shows unique sites anymore. Its very commercial :c
Yeah it's gonna have to be friends sharing it to eachother, but also someone could technically make a website that's a list of all the cool small websites
And share it around within the communities
Yeah, you literally can go pages and pages on Google without finding a single one of these websites.
@@anjellalo972I know a lot of personal sites have a “other cool sites!” Type of page in there. Its usually not a complete list of every small site ever but more personal recommendations from the maker
@@anjellalo972 theres hella web rings out there for starters look up brisray webrings
The genius of the web was its decentralized nature, with everyone spending most of their time on a handful of corporate websites that magic has disappeared.
Yes this new social media stole the magic
banging comment OSOSOSOS
retvrn to the rhizomatic internet
The fediverse has the capacity to reclaim the internet's former glory, if it becomes widely adopted.
Funny enough, people spent months working of Web3 slop technology because they wanted to add nonsense on top of the current web to make it decentralized, but it already was decentralized to begin with.
There's something particularly transcendent about seeing a scene kid talking about the dying internet theory. Scene really has this vibe for me of being the very early days of the internet, the precursors. It's like watching a time traveler who was using the internet in 2004 explaining how to save the thing they love to the people of the future
I did not think about that.
hey, thank you for writing this. (it made me a little emotional hehe)
I used to be a scene kid in my teens, it's definitely a dated style these days.
Well said haha. The only thing missing was MSN 'nudges' being heard in the background, with BMTH being played off some Myspace account :'] good times.
@@bencastor9207 its coming back and tbh i wouldnt be surprised if it came back to stay. i personally also loved th scene style in middle school, and im getting back into it now as an adult
Ive been noticing on tiktok ill see the most jaw dropping beautiful artworks w like 20 likes its really disheartening
Absolutely. Increasing amount of artists just go unnoticed and disregarded. The algorithm isn't meant to push very low traffic numbers/engagement, despite years of the blood, sweat, and heartfelt tears put into such craftsmanship... :-(
I come across them somewhat often as well.
And then all the obvious rage bait gets like a million quad triple likes ☠️☠️☠️☠️
@@TALLYOFTHEOPERAS bro i would be devastatingly embarrassed if i owned any of these corporate media platforms, especially if you just look at the """trending""" page like... what a blazing heaping pile of debris that is. 💀💀💀💀
Istg the trending page for every major social media platform looks so… weird and yet the most bland as possible lmfao
They're probably all AI art
A scene kid teaching people about abandoning social media and returning to the oldweb. My past, present, and future are colliding!
Oh also Tumblr is one of those social media that let you customize your page A LOT. I found it really cool as a person who never saw that super customizable era of the internet , don't know why it's not mentioned as much.
Was freaking out loads when I saw the blog edit option. 😭😭
yeah! i can see tumblr coming back into the mainstream because of how customizable it is
@@chloe54251 PPPLLLLLLEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAASSSSSEEEEEEEEEE AAAAAHHHHHHHHHH
Also I like your Juuzou profile pic lol! That character is kind of my inspiration :33cc
tumblr has moved away from the customisation in recent years in favour of prioritising the mobile app--even on desktop, it takes multiple clicks to get to someones actual .tumblr url (it used to be where youd get taken first). it's still infinitely better than most social media but it's worse than it used to be in a lotta ways :
@@ezranexcalibur yeah kinda sad that even if you customize your Tumblr.url, not everyone will see it. (Especially since most people now browse it on their phone)
Plus as you said, it's kinda tedious to click through every page to get to the url of every cool artist you see.
It's cool to see a beautifull page from time to time when I do click the url though
Can't believe Neocities isn't being mentioned in the comments yet. I read my favorite blogs and webcomics there!
OMG i didnt know neocities was a thing !!! i LOVED geocities around 2013-2016 i customized my tumblr based off geocities.
i saw another artist using neocities for web comics and other art. I thinking to do that for my art
I HEARD OF IT BUT I DONT HAVE A COMPUTER RAH (why do I say "rah"???)
Edit: I thought it would be blocked on my school laptop but apparently not
You can access it on the phone and make your own website on your phone
making a website on Neocties got me into web coding!!! :0D!!!
So excited to see a scene kid talking about quirky internet stuff to me on UA-cam again lol
True. The scene aesthetic was peak.
@@Kodeb8ew.. the a word…
@@DINURSWARRR✨✨AESTHETIC ✨✨ 👄 😜🦅🪑
@@DINURSWARRR
aesthetic
/iːsˈθɛtɪk,ɛsˈθɛtɪk/
Learn to pronounce
adjective
concerned with beauty or the appreciation of beauty.
"the pictures give great aesthetic pleasure"
noun
a set of principles underlying the work of a particular artist or artistic movement.
"the Cubist aesthetic"
does that scare you?
@@DINURSWARRR it was awsome sauce cry about it
Its awful that I can get tired of the internet right now, considering how much interesting treasure is hidden within. I'll follow your advice because I cant find joy in the major sites/apps anymore
I think on WHY websites "back in the day" felt unique is because shit wasn't as centralized as it was now. It wasn't so much that "oh, people went to random websites and enjoyed it", it's that back then, you had like, webpages dedicated to hobbies, by hobbyists. If you wanted to meet people who like a certain anime, there wasn't a subreddit for it, you had to look for it- you had to LOOK for people who liked the same stuff as you did. And when you did find something FOR YOU, it was ran by people who gave a shit about you. Like yeah imagine an entire website, ran by people, that's all about giving you the latest on anime. It's not news networks, it's not coming from twitter, it's coming from a single website ran by like 5 people who Give A Shit.
I think everyone feeling empowered to create their own website, going on neocities and shit is cool,it's a PART of the solution, but what we really need to take back is a sense of community, niche community, outside of those central twitter/instagram/bluesky sites. Discord is not the answer either, the way information is KEPT in certain discord communities is sickening- THE INTERNET WAS MADE TO SHARE INFORMATION, DO NOT KEEP THAT SHIT INVITE-ONLY
Theres this account that I keep seeing on comments, I keep meeting them again, and it's because we both like 2000 music like MCR, and I think I even saw one of their comments on PINTEREST on a mcr meme post lmfao and I really enjoy running into people again, it makes me so happy that I can kind of be friends with someone online from *social* media
That was part of the charm of the internet in general. I remember being a kid and like a lot of kids I didn't feel like I could even talk to a lot of authority figures in my life, and my interests were not broadly popular ones that I could discuss with my peers in real life. But online I could find a forum about fantasy writing or a game I liked, and join the forum by making up a username and password, and just start posting, and a bunch of people, often from different walks of life, would welcome me, and I could directly discuss things with the site admin or for that matter with much older people who were not my grandparents and had a lot of valuable perspective on life.
We desperately need forums to make a comeback. Information and resources being locked away in Discord servers is such a huge problem.
My only actual reason for using Discord is talk to friends, with very small communities made for ourselves and the people we met in our interests and helping each other out in our games and work. Nothing more.
I feel like I missed out on so much by only getting a good grasp of how the internet worked by the time forums went essentially extinct. I desperately want to just hang out in a place with people who likes the same stuff that I do. It's just not the same on "social" media where people have made even something as simple as connection and socialization into a race for reactions and recognition.
I want connection and the internet is slowly becoming corporatized just to take that away from us. It's time we turn back.
Edit: the only thing I don't want back is the rampant hatred running around only thinly veiled as humor. Can we just...be nice to each other in this day and age?
@@GANONdork123 reddit is that basically
Theres something refreshing about making a page solely for your art and ocs that wont get pushed down a feed in 30 secs. Idk what it is but I'd rather my art be posted where no one goes vs being posted where everyone scrolls past it 😅
The algorithm did it's thing. Cool that you ended up in my recommended section 🤗
same
same (comment for engagement)
i typically put a bunch of videos in my recommended that i find interesting in my watch later, but i decided to just watch it instead of putting it off and i don't regret a thing haha
I really hope personal websites make a comeback! I've been spending my summer working on my site, it's been a good lil project to keep my sanity lol. And it's a good way to share some essays I write, as well as small little blog posts about what I've been doing/thinking lately
Was just thinking about that older time of the internet where it was just a bunch of personalized sites and niche, yet authentic interests. Small but unique corners of the internet. Not where everything is clout and career focused.
Modern website design are too sterile and boring.
I got curious can i check your website? Xd
@@cameram-guy8684 Saaammmeeees I think everyone here should post their website or whatever their working on I'm so curious lol jdfj I'm working on one too :DD Xd lol
Yes please send your link!
This is a great reminder. I have been building my own website for me and my business for this exact reason. Social media sucks.
True.
mmm I think social media is fine. Its people that fuck it up 90 if not 100% of the time :P
@@leggotheeggodemon1323no its the people that run them that changed to origional intent of them. Now it's to make us mindlessly scroll, instead of an actual reason to be on any of these websites. They're all become the same website like they all have the same goal
Insta was for sharing pics with friends, yt was for finding cool or interesting or funny videos or watching your favourite youtuber and the popular vids were shown to everybody not just people interested in the topic. Tiktok was a lypsync app, wattpad was a place kids read crap for free and chatted in a welcoming community. EVERYTHING has changed for the worse the more money these companies made
Vine was so unique, idk why it ended
I think you might like Ben Tarnoff's Book "Internet for the People". He really advocates for a community-based internet, like we used to have in the beginning stages, which was then substituted by social media. Social media has changed immensely too, and the "social" aspect of these platforms is pushed to the brink of extinction by the algorithms. The internet is isolating us instead of bringing us together. At least on the major platforms (UA-cam being a bit of a special case there). I recently made a video installation about this topic.
Loved your video.
That sounds dangerously close to "socialism"/"communism" xD
Almost as if the antithesis to being human is the predatory system we call "capitalism" xD
I did have an idea for an open source, decentralized, distributed social media platform that would be a one-time purchase and you'd keep and own all your own data but I struggle to develop it under my current "living" conditions heh
@@3nertia you should try to get funding!!
@@Liv-is8eo That's a lot easier said than done, sadly! I've been slowly working on just getting myself a proper desk (I'm on the floor as I type this) for years now. It's really difficult when you can't even afford a decent vehicle :/
@@3nertia aw I imagine it must be tough. Not sure where you're from but in many countries there are institutions who give out funds for these kind of things. Anything is possible :) wishing you the best
@@Liv-is8eo I live in the US and healthcare is a joke here. Capitalism exists everywhere though 🤷
Thanks. I'm doing the best I can with what I've got🙂
I mean this as a compliment, you look like you time travelled from 2007. Reminds me when things were better.
Nice job on your website! I started making websites in the era where everyone had background music and flashing gifs everywhere.
For the past two years I've been working on building a independent non-AI art platform called DomoTown. I saw what was happening with all the big platforms for artists with AI and corporate rot and wanted to create something just genuinely good for artists that never sells out to corporatism.
The idea of having your own website to customize has me thinking about going in a new direction as well, like providing space and tools for people to make it easier to make their own websites. There's a new(ish) technology called web components that can make it easier for people to create re-usable components like layouts, menus, galleries, blogs, etc. and make them easily customizable. With lots of people working on components and sharing them maybe together we could build an independent internet comprised of islands of unique interconnected websites together.
Love to hear your part in this. Heres to open the old internet comes back! Down with big social media!!!!
I remember hearing about domotown through your post on the deviantart subreddit! Personally, I prefer the more old-fashioned interface of other art sites like side7 and newgrounds (plus the fact that you can warn for mature content on there), so I will probably post there, but I looked through your site a few months ago and it seemed like a very cool concept!
@@Adrenaline0413 If you haven't seen, people started returning to classic gaming commentary type videos earlier this year and these channels are popping off. Most of them do Minecraft but people do all kinds of games, it's really cool to see.
Go for it!
Making a website like this is my dream
As a millenial ive now seen the full range of this internet timeline. Where it started, to today, and i can see the writing on the wall where this is going.
And yes; the internet used to be better. To its bones.
Im fairly confident that Gen Z, and especially Gen Alpha, and onwards, will start turning away from technology to a certain degree and dailing back the tech timeline as a social/generational trend in the purpose of highlighting how work and tech culture is making people emptionally/spiritually sick, and the response will be to become tech minimalistic. There will be more talks about meet ups in person, using analog/digital equipment such as older handycams/digicams, using tapes, buying more property in smaller town areas for both the peace and affordability of the properties, and creating their own websites and blogs again.
The newer generation is already sick of feeling sick, and they arent going to guzzle down advertisements and souless apps and subscriptions anymore. The capitalism playbook has become too obvious and there will be a swing in the other direction, and for good, in my opinion.
As a gen z who lived the last days of early internet, it feels like the internet is fastly becoming TV 2.0
I don't think we'll go back to analogue tech, because the capabilities we have now are truly amazing, but I do hope and agree that we'll disconnect a little bit more.
@AmbivalentMind you might be misunderstanding what I meant by "going back", or maybe I didn't explain it clearly enough. I'm not saying a permanent step back into using analog tech for industry. I meant a personal aesthetic preference when people choose what kind of cameras or gaming systems or music listening/playing devices. It's already happening. UA-camrs are starting to buy Sony digi-handycams off ebay and millennial already revitalized the physical records industry. Even in our house, for our living room, we all decided we prefer the sound of playing records versus the higher tech speakers coming out of our big flat screen TV which has youtube and Spotify on it. On paper it's just better. But for the vibes, something just feels far more sane about picking out an old record ajd just putting it on the player- it's very calming. This is what I mean. People doing mix tapes again for friends on cassette, Gameboy and boardgames instead of VR, bringing those things camping, taking Polaroid pics, shooting digital on tape and then editing it on Premiere, etc. Slowing things down versus more integration of tech into our literal glasses or brains.
@@lunaticoni it is, homie. It is. The internet today is at its stage compared to when cable was at its worst.
yeah, it gets a bit hard when youve had so much internet you literally dont know what other activities you can do irl. but im at least seeing my own gen z self decouple from the internet & in the future when i have less digital clutter, i dont really see myself being on the internet recreationally nearly as much. or at least not on social media and addictive games
There was a dragon website that played mystical-sounding music once it opened and it just had tons of pictures of dragons. Some info, lots of different dragon artwork, I LOVED it.
do u still remember the name?
I seen a similar video a few days ago. This person did the same thing but they had a section on their page where they put links to other personal pages from people who made stuff they were interested in as well. If everyone did this there would be this whole web of pages that one could fall into the rabbit hole on.
I've been on the web since '95, what you are talking about is what we use to call "web rings" You'd put a little box at the bottom of your web page and you'd be able to click a button that would take you to another random page that had the same interest as the page you were currently on. The internet of old was amazing and it's sad so many never got to experience it.
Ah I left a comment about web rings too 😊
gotta love my algorithm. I really hate how corporate, and commercial platforms suck the life and creativity out of everything and are solely there to get money. I feel like we won't be able to live good without creativity, so we gotta bounce back somehow.
also holy crap i love your website design and logo!
The dominance of corporate interests is an inevitable consequence of eternal human laziness, and there is nothing you can do about it, we have already passed the point of no return.
Your hair, your style and your enthusiasm for art reminds me of the internet in the 90s and 00s. (Man I'm old...)
You're very cool, keep it alive! :3
I felt a similar way about Discord being the only haven I still enjoy being in. You get to choose what groups you're in, no algorithm, no blatant money grabbing sponsorships, you just get to chill and post what you like.
I made a website a while ago
I started a photography project 2 years ago and needed a place to show all the photos and decided "You know what, no platform suits me so I'm gonna make my own"
This video reminded me of it so I'm currectly updating it
UPDATE: I FINISHED UPDATING IT! Even changed the design a little.
Planning on adding more in the future
I'd put the website here but I don't think self promo is allowed so :P
aw I'm still interested in seeing it!!
could I see the site? I'm a hobby photographer as well, and I'd love to check it out :D
@@hopps2734 It's one of the featured websites on her site now!
It's the one labeled "circadian project"
Hi! I would also like to take a look
From someone who seek refuge on the internet for peace, i ended circling back to my childhood where nature is now much peaceful 😮💨 i still check socials just to keep up with news around the world to prepare myself for the what ifs
Your video made me cry. I've been so tired lately, anything and everything being monetized and/or political, it's just so sad. It feels like we're slowly losing ourselves. But your video gives me hope. I had been working on a page before. It's not pretty, but not everything needs to be "aesthetic" tbh. I just want to talk about stuff that matters to me, idk. Maybe someone will listen eventually. That would be nice.
I am always happy to see younger generations get into web building, plus also keeping the scene style alive.
"We have to take the old and make it new" Was a fantastic quote that i will be stealing. Amazing video :D
Preach queen! The way major corporations run various platforms and all the AI nonsense are the reason I find myself using the internet less and less. I think demise is absolutely inevitable for the internet, or at least for it's current state. Us artists shall adapt and create our own space.
P.S.: I love your hair!
Woah, youre like out of a time capsule. Thats so rad, your style is sick asf. Loved the video
I think what a lot of people miss in the "AI Art" conversation, is that context is inseparable from meaning. AI can make something that masquerades as beautiful, but if the context behind it is that it was made by a machine with no artistic intent, that changes the way you interpret it. People often frame this as a nebulous "human-ness" or "awareness", and I think that's too wishy-washy. You lose people on that. In reality, it's a social aspect of art. It's the desire to ask, what is the artist trying to tell me? And when the artist is a machine, the answer is "nothing".
I recently found Neocities and loved it so much, it actually made me want to learn html and make my own! There are so many quirky little sites there. It`s so fun clicking through all the custom buttons and pages with music and art. It gives you so much inspiration and you can`t help but think how you would design it yourself. I was having all the thoughts you talked about how cool it would be to have a little "Cool Website Revival" and wrote about it under another video but honestly was kind of intimidated by coding.
But i think this video finally gave me a push and i want to try.
I see that i`m not the only one who thinks it will be cool if everyone returned to making custom little blogs and webpages. (Yeah, half of them will look like hot garbage, but it`s hot garbage made with love and gifs)
If i manage to make my own website i will post it here^^
Its not hard to set up something! just type in right here how to make a gallery on html and just copy paste . easy pizi. you can go from there. am building a personal site right now lol its fun! ok bye
It is difficult to grow, but you can be on forums and create a community there, many other options IRL also for creating/maintaining a community that at the same time forces you into thinking outside the box and stepping outside the comfort of online presence. It also depends on how much each one values a complete stranger's attention, even if it means getting on your knees begging for it. There's definitely people who really enjoy the battle for the short attention span and the next shiny thing that everyone would end up copying. I applaud your congruence and authenticity.
I've found plenty of niche forums started in the 1990s that are still around today, like the doom9 forums
This is an interesting topic. The Dark Forest Theory of the Internet is essentially what you're talking about and has been discussed for quite a few years, however, it seems that the use of AI is accelerating things exponentially.
YES! I made a forum for this exact reason, I just don't vibe with Discord (video eventually coming on that topic), and in making the forum, I realized that making your own website is the best way to fight the big tech nonsense - we can make the internet WE want!
SPIT YOUR FACTS MY MAN! (also kinda off topic whats your forums name)
@@koikoifishfish Reject Convenience :)
This video is a breath of fresh air. Social media can be a volatile, toxic and damaging thing these days. I lost interest in almost all of it a long time ago, I sometimes use Instagram but stopped using Facebook/Reddit and every other social account. I grew up in the MySpace/MSN/Faceparty/Vampirefreaks era in the early 2000's... I feel like that was when the paradigm of making a connection with someone and having a sense of wonder and freedom of expression was at its' peak and in its purest form. I feel like the landscape of social media as it stands now is holding me back from being creative online, I would much rather create my own website and have my own space than push it through the handful of sites that will take control over it. This is why I love UA-cam and am on it literally every single day - I can still have that sense of wonder and discover something that isn't shoved in my face, I might stumble upon a gem of a video like this from an interesting and articulate person such as yourself. Reaching an audience organically is a rare thing in the state of today's internet, but when it happens it's something worth cherishing, for the artist as well as whoever finds it. Subbed because this message you've conveyed really resonates with me, plus you seem like a cool person. I've been wanting to create something for the longest time - my own UA-cam channel, my own anime, voiceover work, artwork, music, anything I feel i'd love to share with the world, but I have no desire to go through social media and let it lose its' meaning to me. Maybe this video is the push I needed. Thanks for sharing. Sending good vibes from the UK.
Something Ive heard about that is supposedly similar to MySpace is SpaceHey, so maybe thats worth checking out!
Weirdly, youtube REALLY wanted me to watch this vid. Came across my dash like 5 different times, each time i thought "eh, this isnt meant for me, lets find something else"
Then it pushed your newest video two times, and figured "okay something about my algorithm and their content lines up, i should watch it"
And very happy i did, i like this
11:00 you might find SpaceHey interesting :) It's basically a MySpace copycat! It's mostly goth/scene kids on there, too.
In the online subculture I interact with, there's already a lot of shifting towards forums and blogs, such as LessWrong, Substack, and other websites. The high standards of discussion there allow in-depth conversations on a lot of subjects that would be harder to do on the mainstream internet.
also on youtube, i started "do not recommending" EVERYTHING. now i see people like you. and i watch one video of any "unknown" youtuber and move on. its so nice to hear different povs. i wish people were more... disagreeable tho.
This is exactly what I’ve been wanting to do!! I got rid of my smartphone and social media about a year ago and I only want to have a UA-cam and website. I’m so glad this video got recommended, it gets lonely not wanting to live the same way as everyone else so it feels really nice to see that there are likeminded people out there. I’ve been having trouble building my website tho and figuring out what to put on it, I have so many things I want to share and I get overwhelmed about how to organize it. I looked through yours though and I got really inspired on how to structure it, and it makes me want to start working on it again after procrastinating for so long. Thank you for sharing!!
Before watching the video (I even hesitated clicking it) I was like totally I'm not having a website
But halfway through the video, I'm already convinced that I need to make one
Ironically enough it's just what I needed as a musician who has also lots to show, it's great if I can put it all in the same place
Now to the adventure of actually learning to create one
By the way I was not even around on the time where websites and the internet where in their prime, so that's as well why I was hesitating of the unknown
i definitely feel this, i try tailoring my ig/yt pages to my main interests (guitar, anime, cooking, language learning, etc) instead of dealing with algorithms, i think trying to occasionally cut down on random accounts that you follow really helps you find out what you really care about online. there are some options for blocking/requesting to not show channels or content, but those don't always work from what i've seen.
This got my brain flowing with ideas for my own website I might make.
I've gotten into fictional writing earlier this year and it's my favorite creative outlet I've ever pursued and it's easier than anything else to do, ever since I wound up being disabled almost two years ago.
But the problem with sharing writing is it's bad enough trying to share flashy stuff like drawn art, but stories that are just words are even tougher to have seen. The best way I currently have to share my writing is through videos, but that takes like 10x extra effort because I have to push through my chronic pain to record voice overs and it's just really hard to make them. However, watching this video inspired me to try out posting my writing to my own website so I can just post stuff as is without scaring people by telling them my stuff is on Patreon, or hurting myself for videos.
Another idea I had is to make like a weekly "artist interview" section on my website, where people can ask to have their work be immortalized on the site and they can just talk about the stuff they've made, or I can go out and interview some of my favorite artists/creators for my site, and I can go back anytime and re-experience getting to talk to people I look up to.
idk if I'll actually go through with any of this. I'm not feeling great at the time of writing this comment and I need to go lay down rn, but as soon as I can get back up I think I'm gonna give this a try! Thanks for the inspo and encouraging people to think outside the box. I get very stuck in my ways so I definitely needed to hear this. I'll try to remember to come back and post my website if I feel like it's something I wanna stick with.
love to see the diy spirit. if you want a small taste of what the old internet was like, i think neocities is similar in goal. the websites themselves are a piece of art that has the creator's heart in it.
There's something really comforting about seeing a scene kid absolutely crush the aesthetic in 2024. And in their own unique way too. Such a free spirit.
I think that you can fix internet search by having user indexed search. You can construct your own index and share it with other people. Some people will spend a lot of effort curating high quality indices and indices will have reputations for things like not having any AI slop and other garbage in them.
I have noticed that I am lonely. When I was a youngin, back in the Wild West days of the internet, you would run into strangers a lot, and could talk and chat about…. Whatever! Every website had a forum and hanging out in forums was my favorite pastime
But MySpace and Facebook kinda killed the forum… which was okay, until corporations started filling up Facebook with content. I don’t care about corporate content AI garbage - I just want to talk to another person about something random and- ya know - have fun?
Guh
Anyway
Thanks for making this! I think I agree, lol
UA-cam and Pinterest are my only socials lol. Love your hair btw!!
I had this idea too. I miss when the internet was rad and full of creativity and art. The internet of the 90s and early 2000s was so inviting and so fun. I made my own website because I got sick of the algorithms, the tiny little compressed images, and social media didn't seem to be where I enjoyed posting my photographs. It's so inexpensive to get a domain name and build a site nowdays.
WHOA luvstar! This video blew up! Congrats!!! You super deserve it!💚
artists are always underappreciated on socials outside of art spaces. it's always been this way. they under appreciate our skill when we want fair compensation for it but also want our work for dirt cheap to appreciate.
i've noticed a lot of people start gravitating to neocities (i assume this is where this video is going) and i wasn't aware at the time that there was an index to see thumbnails of so many other people's works and websites. it's so cool and cute! it really reminds me of the originality and uniqueness early internet days had ; w ;
15 years ago you had specific sites to post your art or webcomics and it was relatively easy to be discovered by people looking for those things. Even a less customizable platform would at least make it clear who made what and would have formats that actually suited the content an artist wanted to post (like a high quality static image with whatever dimensions you wanted to use). Social media has weakened that link and AI just seems like the next step to compress and regurgitate people's work.
The internet will decentralize again and become a cluster of walled gardens like it was back in the disparate niche forum days.
I forgot everything was a forum back then in those days!! Everything was so cool cause they just kept it freaking simple with users and their somewhat limited knowledge about website production bro 😭😭
@@menamisai5451 I hear you. They weren't flashy and streamlined, but they had soul.
Reddit needs to collapse first. Forums aren't coming back in full force until then tbh
I have been thinking about making my own fansite for a band called Controlled Bleeding, since I found this really old Iron Maiden fan site from the late 90s and it gave me inspiration.
Pre-UA-cam their were a lot of group made websites for content creators. Angry Video Game Nerd had Screw Attack, The Nostalgia Critic had Channel Awesome, Johntron, ProJared, & peanut butter gamer had Normal Boots also a lot web comic sites.
I also think it's just safer for artist to band together, way to many story of content creators getting cyber attacked by internet psychos.
I really agree with the things you said. I don't use social medias because I think they're a waste of time, but I do use stuff like UA-cam of course. Social medias just have too many restrictions on creativity so making a website sounds like a blast to me. I'm the type of person who would spend hours on the smallest of details so a website sounds perfect for me. If I manage to make one then I'll 100% post all my art stuff there!
Btw I love your hair, it's super cool! Your fashion style is straight outta the early 2000's, the fashion back then rocks!
I've seen this one video from a small channel talking about how Cara can be actually good for artists and that all other artists who compared it to Insta on UA-cam say that it's bad because they already have a decent following on Instagram and they don't wanna start it all over again, if they tell people to leave it. And so that small creator compared them from a newbie perspective. So I've been kinda concidering to try it out and see for myself.
But making your own website sure does sound like a great idea! I'd love to make one one day, but I'm just kinda scared of how it all works, of diving into this tecnical side of things, which is completely foreign to me; of figuring out the design and finding people to pay to and who can help with all that.
I love this hairstyle, btw, it looks really nice! It kinda looks like your natural hair, tho. Did you finally dye it??
P.S. Congrats on the 1k!
ive seen mentions of Cara lately and still have yet to look into it at all since i decided not to be on social media. buttttt if it seems to be a good place for artists, i might look into it!! honestly starting over does suck for already established accounts, but i think there is always something exciting and opportunistic about having a fresh slate :) and yeah websites are a bit of a challenge, maybe not for everyone, but as long as you can find your own platform where you feel at peace online, website or not, i think thats totally fine too! also thank you!! the hair is a wig but it feels like my own hair and style so much 0-0 i was honestly amazed lol - its def my go-to now!
I tried Cara and it seems the same as any of the other social media platforms. The popular cool people get all the attention etc. UA-cam seems to work better for me personally, as strange as that seems.
one thing you can do to avoid the technical aspects is use a simple free website host like rentry (and keep a copy on your hard drive in case it has to close down like its predecessor). It doesn't need basically any technical knowledge. You'd need to find elsewhere to host images (it can only display them), but for stuff like blogs it could work well enough.
I'm not an artist (yet, i've started buckling down on art and music this year) but as someone who grew up on the early internet I completely agree. When youtube first came out animators were in love with the platform as it was an easy and free way to just show off creations. Sites like newgrounds where you don't have to worry about competing with the algorithm are still up to this day and FULL of great animations, voice actors, artist etc. If you ask people who did VA work or Animations on those sites in the early days they got a lot of exposure to news channels and companies. Not always a good deal but still got a lot of offers. Where the internet is now, it's always going to be harder to compete even without things like youtube algorithms but whenever I see a nice, clean and easily accessible website made by independent creators i'm more inclined to check their stuff out even if im not interested.
Omg you’re reminding me so much of how I used to dress in my teens. Fashion seriously rotates generationally. Now kids are talking about going back to websites? Omg, it’s like my teens all over again. Oddly refreshing. Old stuff was better, yup. Old ways of doing things is better. Yup.
RSS and static sites were how we used to do it, and I've missed it. I'm kind of happy to see that coming back. RSS is super easy to set up on any websites, and many website makers support it by default, and it's a great way to follow updates of any website using any RSS feeder (I use thunderbird, but there are a lot of alternatives that are web-based that you can sign up for to access the same feed from everywhere, and even some that you can host yourself!)
The other thing is that the only people you're beholden to for content moderation are yourself and your hosting provider, and if the hosting provider changes their ToS it's easy to move to a different one and keep the same website and url so nobody who follows you will even notice. None of the "I'm leaving Y social media site for Z" and hoping everyone follows you.
I've been feeling like the gentrification of the internet in the name of advertisements has done nothing but damage to the internet and internet culture as a whole. I created my own website back during my undergrad as a new home for my own content. I still have a long way to go before I can safely say that it's 100% ready, but it's still public for people to check out. Since 2012/2013/2014, when UA-cam channels went from canvases of your passions to generic pages, I've been DYING for a place to really call my own, and that's been the major driving force behind my site. As of writing this comment, I'm still working on making custom webpages to organize my content because Wordpress's archive pages don't really offer much in terms of flexibility aside from what category is shown. Amazing video! I have your building website video queued up to run in the background while I'm working.
EDIT: Forgot to also mention that the website I'm working and reworking as a home for my content is my only website! I made a dedicated blog where I talk about whatever is bouncing around in my head and a dedicated portfolio website!
If you wanna check them out, I'll put them below in a reply.
I purposely do not centralise my content on a website or account because I don't want to be too personal on the internet.
Omg. I had totally forgot that everyone can make their own website. Thank you for this reminder, I should plan it now.
As someone who has been on the internet for +10 years, loves art and has just started to make her own art, I agree with everything you've said. Your video just casually appeared on my feed after weeks of my view on social media becoming more and more cynical. I used to love twitter some years ago but nowadays it just drains my energy, full of slop, toxic discussions, misinformation, bots, ads, it's miserable, yet I still use it because it's the only way *I* know of showing my friends and other people what I like, who I am and p much everything about me. I saw a couple of artists I follow (a gamedev and a digital artist respectively) showing off their personal websites on neocities and heyspace and I was like... why can't the internet be like this lol.
I think the only problem of making a website for me is that I love social media for the interaction with other people, which is not as direct or fluid in websites, but the amount of personalization and personality you can give to a website is miles better than what social media is today. It's also a stance that I've seen is getting more and more popular, what with younger internet users getting nostalgic for an era they didn't live through and people who did and actually engage with the internet getting tired of the way things are going. I predict social media will just become full time slop for corporate accounts, older people who look at the news and regular people who just wanna keep in touch with the world or their friends while every art scene will go for more personal spaces.
i'd say leave a guestbook on your page if you want the social interaction and someone that genuinely wants to put in the effort will reach out.
sometimes not being able to have mass visibility and talk to everyone online is better even though it doesnt look like it. ive met more genuine and mentally sound people back then that ended up being very long term friendships when i could only talk to 1 or 2 people a week on my page than i did when i was coming across multiple people a day on twitter etc. with twitter it was superficial friendships that would last for a week or so before some dumb drama would kill it.
As a webdev this is why I think the rss format is so great. Podcasts have embraced it and I wish more creators did. Anyone can build an rss aggregator and a ”platform”. Artists and whoever else can post their content and just let anyone that is interested subscribe to their updates. And like nothing is stopping artists from creating a gallery format, a standardised way to describr how to consume their content.
We bustin out the old Neocities page with this one🗣️🗣️❗️❗️❗️
Yesss!!! Back before the days of social media, the internet was built and driven by nothing but pure passion and creativity. People built and shared things they were interested in. There was no profit motive or algorithm or anything. It was pure, beautiful passion. Seeing spaces like this making a comeback as a sort of rebellion against the corporatized stagnation of online spaces gives me so much hope.
I used to build websites and I vividly remember the good ol' web. Your vid has me considering building a personal website again.
plz do it
As someone who was online before social media, thank you!
I am so tired of seeing the death of the internet at the hands of large corporations. There is no more coding, design, or work put in to things. All we see are edited photo, reposts, and content being recycled.
Keep focused and move forward with what you're saying. You're just starting to see the light. :)
i watch every video about ppl making their own sites,, i’ve seen a lot more ppl doing this the last few years, esp this year. & i’m so grateful to everyone contributing to this movement
So glad i clicked on this video! I deleted every social media i had pretty much the second i left high-school. And now i wish i had made a website way sooner. It truly does seems like the last healthy way to interact with the internet
honestly im just happy my gf made me a website. i didnt see the use of it yet but now that she made my little spot on the internet and i feel like i can take myself more serious too.
I like the pixel font typing visuals on your website.
You have convinced me to make a website! Thank you!
I've genuinely been thinking a lot about this lately. All social media feels miserable and returning to small esoteric websites sounds like a much more pleasant and useful way to engage in online stuff
Theres this game called Hypnospace Outlaw where it kind of emulates this type of space. Its kind of ironic that there is a big group of people that long so much for this flavor of experience but cannot get it nowdays that they created a fictional space (a game world) which they can finally create this tiny websites for other players to see the magic of it. Anyway, thanks for the advice, will try that myself
i can listen to you for hours and not get bored because how much I can relate to what ur saying.. AI is affecting my Music production income as well. All I can say is we gotta look at this as a test so we can finally break free from the chains of giants socials monopoly on trying to control how we express ourself and what we make for the sake of going "trending"
been talking ab this for a while now. social media simply isnt made for broadcasting yourself and your talent/ideas/art anymore. the algorithm only favors degenerate content and you have to upload 20 times a day for your channel to grow, which is simply impossible if you make quality content.
This reminded me of how much fun I had back when I was younger in the internet
This is a little unrelated but I've recently found your channels and you just seem like such a great person! I've been wanting to make art videos and ur content has definitely inspired and motivated me to start planning some! 💚 Also amazing hair color 💚💚💚
aww thank you so much!! im so happy i could inspire you! 💜
I created my own website to sell my original 3D prints because Etsy is just full of dropshippers pretending to sell "hand made" products and the website is so full crap that the algorithms will bury you if you don't pay for advertising. Its so crappy on there now and my opinion is that it is designed like that on purpose these days. After designing my website, my girlfriend said she really liked the look of it because it reminds her of 'old internet'. That made me feel pretty good because it takes me back to the late 90's and early 00's when things were much more fun.
I had a myspace page way back in the day and you are quite right about it feeling really similar to having your own page or corner of the internet. It was limiting for sure but it was still really fun making it your own! SPECIFICALLY picking the song that played when someone visited. UA-cam also used to let you customize your page WAY more and it was so amazing. Slowly over time they've standardized everything until it became what it is now.
As a 29 year old who used to be into Emo subculture and had my own blog about Shaman King, it warms my heart to see someone with colorful Scene hair tell me to post my Sonic OCs to Neocities in 2024.
It also really feels like these systems have made people who participate rather bland to match a corporate incentive, and as a result fall under the same format and layout every time. it incentivizes copying others instead of innovation.
Also, PatRatrick's video is eye opening.
This is one of the most optimistic things I've seen in a very long time, and I am extremely grateful for it. My friend and I, both creators of our own kinds, are getting together to make websites for ourselves tomorrow.
why are these comments so nasty?? anyways, could you make a video on how you make yours (if you’re comfortable)? i’m personally interested in trying website, youtube, tumblr
I totally agree, when i was learning to make stuff it was so easy to get people to share what they were working on. But nowadays I've noticed that almost everyone hides their art and talks about it like it's not good enough (for what? I say!). And yes i totally think this is largely due to the influence that comes from the social media age; people are being deceived by the marketing. Influencers can seem "natural" to the untrained eye and a lot of us are trying to compete with the reality TV version of their lives we see online or on tv, but don't forget they're all going to a lot of trouble to get the appearance they obtain! It's normal for normal life to look not professionally produced!!!!
I love the galaxy feel of your website ^^ I look forward to see what you post~
I used to have a website but it cost money so I closed it. I've been thinking I want to make a new website l, but now I'm super pumped.
Also Yes!!! Let's all get together and revive the internet~! (>
A couple years ago I was learning how to create a website from scratch but now my interest in photography and your video have inspired me to follow through
It's funny youtube fed me this a week after I started learning HTML for many of these exact reasons. Yesterland inspired but about southside 90s rap (that's the idea at least) since I actually know a lot about it and want to write about it, but I don't want a fkn tumblr page, or instagram or even worse, twitter or medium.. I just want more stuff like yesterland to exist. It is my favorite website and I read it everyday just because it feels so damn human to me.
I don't agree with everything in this video, but I think we want the same thing. I am not an artist tho so the motivations are probably very different.
I lived these days, but its so refreshing to hear that people much younger than me talk in this way. I hope you lot take the internet back in this way.
i just want a website thats like the old deviantart
me too! minus the questionable content, i have a lot of good memories of deviantart.
@@unodos2647 oh yes definitely
sometimes i wanna make a website like that but i wont be able to deal with the responsibility of data leaks when they happen and security ruohwrohrogheo
hopefully it doesn't have anything weird
I've been somewhat already doing this with spacehey, custom tumblr themes, artfight and toyhouse. Ive coded and customized the html/css on all of them and it's the most creatively freeing thing ive EVER done in a long time. it feels so incredibly personalized and like you're literally looking straight INTO who i am as a person and my personality. Whenever i figure out how to code a certain thing i get SO happy when it works!!! Html has literally become a special interest for me in the past year and i wish more websites allowed for us to customize it. i swear ive found myself just staring at my toyhouse page for a good while just because of how pretty it is and how happy i am with it
Every social media now is just a boring copy of each other with extremely limited customization and it's SO draining and boring. ive considered deleting my twitter and tiktok but my ADHD brain is too addicted to em to ever commit to that, but ill definitely look into making my own website like this. i used to make my own websites with webnode.. or whatever it was called.. when i was in elementary school cuz i wanted to make my own page about my little pony and i remember it was SO fun. I should definitely dip my toes back into that space :D
thank you so much >w
I'm glad other Creators/Artists are starting to realize that hosting your own sites/domains is a LOT more ideal than relying on Tech Giants for everything.
An internet wild west Renisanse Would probably solve a LOT of issues that plague modern society as a whole, not just online society. I aprove of this video, the background music in it, your stance on the matter, and your amazing purple hair.
+Rep
The problem with artists is a business model problem:
- artists earn CONSIDERABLY less than nearly all other groups, hence they are not interesting customers;
- artists attract other artists instead of wealthy viewers, hence they are not interesting content creators / attracting interesting customers;
- artists are more inconsistent in their production, hence being less useful for platforms upon which to build viewer habits;
- (hypothesis here) artists also generate a little more demand on the bandwidth than an average viewers with equal or more money.
Hence, catering to artists is a financial suicide from the perspective of a platform.
And all of that is before AI generation, which ads further competition.
For artists, as a community, to be an important customer base, they would need to...
- work highly paid day jobs;
- then spend their downtime on the art community.
This would create a high capital segment, instead of a low one.
My opinion. Am I wrong?
I don't think you're wrong but working a high paying job and making art isn't an easy feat. The higher quality your art is, the more time and energy you have to put into it. A high paying job often means working your ass off or having high responsibilities. Working your ass off 24/7 isn't a good feeling.
Companies should adapt their business model competently instead of passing the burden to users.
@@No.17TypeS , I understand the limit of work 24/7 you mention. I myself am working every day, building my own tiny (AI art related) "startup". There are times I'm just mentally drained.
I think your have a misunderstanding however, around this statement of yours:
"Companies should adapt their business model competently instead of passing the burden to users."
Companies don't seek you (artists) out. Thriving products are typically designed for the better customers, and its a coincidence that artists decide to use the better available product.
Companies who rely on artists are prone to a slow death, much like DeviantArt: new competitors will slowly chip away at their userbase and revenue.
I don't mean to sound demeaning, but in many ways, artists are like ticks catching a ride on a moose. Too many of them, and the whole beast dies. Too few, and the general ecosystem would suffer... but the moose would survive none the less.
Speaking as someone building a related product: my own software is artist-tolerant, but not artist-reliant. In part because I am building a locally-installed software: your usage wouldn't be a cost to me. In other part, because you're less likely to spend 400+$ on add-ons than a small construction contractor may.
Lowkey thought this was going to be a programming video but this is just as good. Solid point tbh
love your childlike sense of wonder never lose it