The Truth About Vinland Saga
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- Опубліковано 8 тра 2024
- The future of Vinland Saga is a mysterious one, as the author says it's very close to concluding, but I argue that many of its core themes are characters need a lot more than a few chapters to properly conclude... Especially Thorfinn.
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Thorfinn does have enemies..but he is trying his best to not see them as enemies..trying his best regardless of whether it is possible..and I respect him so much for that
Why respect?
@@Dailymemes2470 I respect him for trying his best to do good??? and he inspires me..If he tries so much to do good in such a difficult world..I, in such a easier world, can do much better
@@itzmehDevi exactly
@@archiskulkarni1971 :)
Thorfinn is such a huge inspiration to me because despite the task of trying to be good seeming so impossible, he tries his hardest to do it regardless. There’s no reward for his efforts, and he still moves forward. His pursuit of redemption and goodness and even the concept of having “no enemies” is in fact impossible, but that doesn’t mean you shouldn’t try.
This video is really well-written, as someone who just started collecting the Vinland saga volumes, I quite enjoyed it!
people who understand vinland saga are better humans now love you all guys
This anime is so beautiful. It explains so much better than anyone I thank the creators for this piece of pure content
I think what you were saying about the allure of the sword makes a lot of sense... and in some ways, it feels like a bit of an addiction. it's tempting, even despite the high possibility of it hurting you, and when you consume something like drugs, it won't truly feed or nourish you, no matter how much your body feels like it needs it. at the end of the day, violence is something simple and easy, which people fall back on when they've given up on the more complex task of navigating around it. you could talk to a person whose difference in opinion frustrates you, or you could hit them until they stop talking altogether, and yours is the only perspective that now matters. history is written by the winners.
however, I think what the first season highlighted excellently, is that this isn't actually "winning" in the long run. Askeladd and his crew did their time in the role of the "winners" of conflicts against weaker people... villages they raided, armies they outfoxed, etc. they took whatever they wanted. but there is a simple concept of fair play to this. they can take what they find, so long as they are the strongest guys there. it sucks for the victims, but it's no skin off their nose. and yet, now they have no right to complain if the script is flipped on them. they have no right to complain if they are robbed, injured, or killed. and for a lot of these men, I think it prevents them from truly admitting what they love, value, or want out of life deep down. if they admitted something like that, then the people who hate them would know how to hit them where it hurts. and that would be entirely fair. you can only win as long as you're the strongest guy there, so vulnerabilities like these are something you cannot have... no matter how much you may want it.
this is where the first season's focus on what love is, what it means, and how it is accessed, makes a lot of sense. Askeladd and his crew cannot access love, because they've given too many people too many reasons to hate them. they're on the record as not giving a shit about that. so if they ever found a person, place, or thing that they loved enough to mourn if they lost it... they might have to understand what they really did to all those people, and they might have to admit that they don't deserve to keep what they love, if all is truly fair. they can try to be selfish, and keep what they covet for themselves... but if anyone who hates them comes to rob them, and succeeds... they can't possibly complain. that's fair play.
in this way, men like Askeladd seem to preemptively rob themselves of every good thing they could've had. no one can hurt you by taking a thing you never had in the first place. and in this way, the addiction metaphor fits too. you feel like you need the sword... the violence. and yet, it is not sustenance. it hollows you out. you lean on this thing to survive as it hurts you worse than the people you're killing ever could, telling yourself you feel no hunger while starving to death.
I think in the recent chapters of Vinland Saga, we're seeing a bit of the flip side of this. once you allow yourself to have the things you were deprived of... you understand their value. Gudrid just spend 9 months producing a baby from her own flesh, and now she understands what went into every life on earth. at least that much time, and effort. and in an instant, the sword can take that out of the world, plus that person's entire lifetime's worth of experiences, and it'll rip a hole in the lives of anyone who ever cared for them besides. this has been her work in Vinland, and I think Thorfinn is the type of person who can recognize this too. if he wants to keep his child, then he can't rightly justify robbing mothers of their sons, wives of their husbands, siblings of their brothers... war is the last thing he wants. it's just inviting threats closer to the things he loves most, which he now knows the value of. he didn't used to understand, back when he was a child, what was so tragic about the victims he'd slain. he understands this now.
the point of saying "you have no enemies" was originally Thors' attempt to communicate something very complicated to a young child in a simple way. but these words have the ability to chameleon themselves with the situation. in season 1, "you have no enemies" is something Thorfinn pushes back against. he makes enemies, until he learns why a person shouldn't. that phrase isn't a given. and in season 2, he puts in the work. he understands that you have to make that statement true, through effort. and then continuing forward, he learns that whether someone is your enemy is a two person decision. it can be unbalanced... in fact, he's been on the more aggressive side of that imbalance before. having no enemies doesn't just mean "to cease harm" but also... to atone in full, and to avoid falling back into the behavior that made so many enemies to begin with. you have to keep making that choice, even when it is most difficult, if you still want it to be true. "you have no enemies" is a mission statement, and Vinland Saga consciously chooses to tell it's story about people who aren't perfect in their attempts to fulfill this goal. even Thors started as a warrior. even Thorfinn went through the violent childhood that he did. this does not disqualify a person from the need to try. being imperfect does not spoil you forever.
and this frees us up to take a step back, and consider the full picture of violent action. what truly causes it, and what it's true effects are. the things that we, as people, want, and whether violence is an appropriate path to get them. and I do think that violence is often a means of communication, especially in the case of revenge. "I want to hurt you, in equal measure to the pain I feel. feel what I feel, and know me." is the true driving force behind revenge. and a lot of the anger comes when that communication fails. when the one who needs to know this pain, fails to acknowledge the damage they've caused, or recognize that it matters. it's infuriating. whenever Askeladd was smug toward Thorfinn, Thorfinn only wanted to hurt him worse, because clearly he doesn't get it yet. he can still be flippant. he still doesn't realize that he was cruel. he has to know how much it hurts. Thorfinn wants to hurt him.
and still other violence communicates more mundane things, like superiority. "I can take what I want from you, because I can kick your ass" is a pretty dispassionate sentiment for some. but that is also the source of imbalanced emotions around violence. something that means nothing to the perpetrator, might mean everything to the victim. and truly, what is a victim supposed to do?
I thought Thorfinn's fight with Snake in season 2 was brilliant, because yes, Thorfinn had to choose violence. he couldn't just expect to get what he wanted without fighting. but also... he didn't get what he wanted. Arnheid and Gardar both end up dead by the end of the season. and, if Thorfinn wasn't there, what would the options have been for just Arnheid and Sverkel? a pregnant woman with no ability to fight, and an old man who can't even stand up... fighting is not something they can do. what are the options for people like them? and truly... we too, are not Thorkell. any given person reading this could get bodied by someone who happens to be stronger. we all need a strategy that doesn't involve a fight.
if we're being honest, people like Arnheid are the ones who can't withstand a village raid, or a beating, or a war. these are the people who don't just _want_ non-violent options, but _need_ them, because that's the only option they have at their own disposal. I think a large piece of Thorfinn's goal of non-violence, is an acknowledgement of perspectives like these. Thorfinn is one man, and there are a lot of fragile people who cannot survive the most violent path that he could technically choose for himself. these are the things that give Thorfinn's life true sustenance, and he has to be strategic for their sake. he has something worth protecting, so he can't just default to communicating with violence anymore. a large part of diplomacy is avoiding the kinds of desperate situations that his life's joy would perish beneath the heel of. if there is any way at all, his task is to find it. he still has to put in the work of having no enemies.
Bro this video is so well edited and explained!
Great vid!! I would love to see you make one about the latest chapters of lnu
Abolutely great video. Thank you so much
Music used - Jin Sakai
Album - Ghost of Tsushima ost
Track 2
The real warrior - Vinland saga 1 ost
Canute showing up in Vinland will not happen. First because it is not historical and second because there is no reason for it to happen. The most we might get is a conversation between Thorfinn and Canute in a epilogue.
Yes because it not being historically accurate has stopped the story so far.
While the story has used exaggeration and invented some characters to fill in gaps such as Askeladd. Though, on the major historical note, it hasn't taken such liberty. Having European showing up in America century before they actually did feel like ot would be straying much farther than anything the story as done so far. But that's not the main reason it won't happen. The main reason it won't happen is because it's not necessary and the story has given no indication as of yet that it is building toward that.
Another W video
You will always have enemies don’t be naive
The thing is you don't have to see them as such
nope, not really
You have enemies because you can’t imagine a world without them enemies.