I never understood how people can’t understand the value of an original pressing. There’s nothing cooler than finding a NM pressing of a record that’s over half a century old, a fragile piece of plastic enveloped in paper that’s survived decade after decade unscathed until finally making its way into your collection where it’s safe. It’s like music archeology.
One of my favourite finds recently was The Who pinball wizard single because it was a magazine copy totally disposable thin flimsy bit of plastic that def will sound gross, but it survived all this time
The LZ I test pressing story is by far the best record story you’ve shared. Just based on the actual historical relevance of that specific record. Amazing.
When buying a record your first thought should be to get a good sounding version, it doesn’t matter what edition, it’s the music that counts and is always best if it sounds good. After you’ve bought that and you like it, then you can always go after the original. Remember, it’s all about the music
I’m 67. About 30 years ago, I bought CD versions of most all of my LPs, thinking that these would be superior replacements for my “outdated” records. The good news is that I packed my old LPs away, but never got rid of them, thank goodness I didn’t! I still collect CDs, their sound is incredible, but I will never part with my LPs. I also still have my 1978 Sony Turntable.
I love test pressings! My prized ones are my Van Halen test, pressings. I have the 1978 S/T actually, the test pressing was done in Dec. 1977 and it’s signed by Eddie on the white cover.
The first time I've watched one of your videos, I really enjoyed it. There was a lot of good information. I liked the point that you made of record buyers needing to collect what's meaningful to themselves, not to try and impress anyone else. Or, don't collect something just because it's collectable. Do it only if you like it and want it. Good advice.
On the topic of Blue Note, it is worth mentioning that many 60’s & 70’s reisssues were produced with the same stampers as the first press, sonically an identical product and much more accessible price point for what is still a vintage copy.
Hi Dillon. Interesting video 🤔 As OG prices/value increase, there will always be ppl wanting OG pressings. Currently, Led Zeppelin 1 Turquoise UK pressing is selling between $1K and $3K. That’s quite a bit of money for one record (and it’s not even the best sounding version of Led Zeppelin 1)?! 😬 From my 20+ experience, most record collectors are insular, insufferable, & socially awkward ppl, but some are very insightful, friendly, & passionate. 👍🏼 My recommendation for ppl getting into the vinyl hobby: make friends with collectors who have amazing collections. Listen to the records together: talk about them & enjoy them. ✌🏼
You are spot on. Also, everyone should play the records they buy! My brother asked me the other day if he should open and play a limited edition record (only 500copies). I said ABSOLUTELY! Open it, play it, and enjoy it.
100% agree ... I can never own everything that I want ... but I can try😁 I love the hunt, I love the albums and, as you said, I love the "history". It's a great hobby and an expensive one, but I love it.
There is nothing more inspiring than listening to someone who is passionate and supremely knowledgable about what they do. A very enjoyable video, thanks very much indeed.
Originals to me times out of 10 has more air and sound more natural. Grew up in the 70s buying US, UK and Japanese copies and never sold my vinyl - pristine. Got back into vinyl in 2001. You could pick up incredible rare records for hardly anything. Wish I had bought even more Classic Records releases then. I like your shirt - I had one from that tour 4/30/1077 Pontiac Silverdome Love your - nobody cares about your collection but you Trying to get off the “have to have the best pressing” or “compare the very latest reissue” train
I'm in my 60s and I've held on to my albums since I bought in my teens and the past 10 years I've been buying more originals and represses I was trying to get only AAA albums but it's getting harder and harder great video Dylan.
Thanks for this video, Dillon, a great analysis and discussion of reissues vs OPs. Also, thanks for talking about the Wara LP you've reisued! Heard it online, loved it, and just ordered a copy from your site. Sounds really great for a late-night listen! Also neat that you've reissued this- there's so much great music buried out there that most of us will never hear, but it's always great when we find it
My thinking since I started seriously collecting has shifted greatly. I used to not care about what pressing it was, just as long as I could get it cheap. However, as with anything I start collecting, I started thinking about what I should be looking for that will retain or grow value most over time. Obviously the popularity of vinyl waxes and wanes, but there will always be that core of collectors out there. The real die hard collectors. A lot of the time, what they want, is your original pressings, your top condition copies. So my thinking is by focusing on getting those original top copies, I can have a collection of great music that plays incredibly, and it will also retain more value in a soft market than it would if I collected reissues.
@@noblerecords So years ago I used to own an RL Led Zeppelin II and stupidly sold it (the story of my life). Fast forward to 2023 and I recently scored a plum/red UK copy which sounds *unbelievable* . I assume you have heard both and would love your opinion on how they compare.
I am 68 years of age and have been listening to Vinyl Records since I was a young boy growing up in Arkansas. I live in Thomasville, NC now and have approximately 350 albums. I also list to CD’s and I stream music over my Sonos system. I have around 2000 ITunes on my phone. I think that maybe because of my age not many people listen to the kind of music that I do. I don’t collect music I play it. I play , Country, Southern Rock, Jazz, Gospel, and Blues. 70 percent of my music is Country and Southern Rock. Almost all of my music is from the 70’s going back to 1939. I grew up less than an hour from Johnny Cash and Levon Helm. My favorite artist of all time is Johnny Cash mainly because l lived some of the songs he sings. I picked cotton and worked in the fields that often flooded . We were dirt farmers and very poor. I left Arkansas as soon as I could and never looked back. I absolutely do not like hard rock. I am not a Beatles fan at all. I do watch a lot of your videos and I highly doubt you would have anything in your store like the music I listen to. I do continue to purchase albums. I purchased this month another album from The Band, Ramble at the Ryman CD, another Johnny Cash album and a Eagle’s album. The Band Album was purchased at Acoustic Sounds.
Just came across your channel. I enjoyed watching and listening to your perspective on why you collect. I used to collect comic books (meaning that I don’t buy them any more but I still have my collection) I don’t collect vinyl, but I was a DJ hobbyist (80’s + 90’s) single 12’’ freestyle and house which I still own along with my equipment. To those who collect albums, buy the music you want to hear and enjoy listening to. True what is said that no one outside the hobby cares what you have. As a guy who grew up around and buying vinyl, I am delighted that this medium has made a comeback.
Thanks for another great video. I started collecting vinyl again 3 yrs ago. Even as a 59 yr old, you have opened my eyes and ears to so much music that I didnt know existed. There is nothing better than seeking out vinyl that you have recommended like Amanaz, Mcphee and Elias Hulk. I really need to check out your exclusives (Wara). Keep sharing your passion and knowledge.
Great video and some juicy selections. That teal Zep 1 is friggin rare as heck. Honestly and quite simply, I buy records because I’m guaranteed to listen to the whole album . The temptation to skip with cds and streaming is just too much. Also I collect out of habit . Growing up in the 80s, I thought records were just so cool. I know how they’re made and pressed, it’s quite simple tech, but I still find it magical somehow. It’s my preferred format although I know the dynamic range is significantly lower than a cd or blu ray audio, which I also collect. I found over the passed 20 years , it’s not really original or repress that defines what I buy. It’s particular pressings I want . For instance, Herbie Hancock - Headhunters . The originals sound just fine but the 2015 Analogue Productions pressing can’t be beat . I own that OMR of Zeppelin 2 as well, 1981 pressing. The Bob Ludwig is amazing but louder. These 2 cuts along with the Classic Recordings are my favorite pressings . Did you know the master tapes for “In the Court of the Crimson King” were lost in the 1969? All the pressings for all formats suffered generational loss and distortion from improper eq and compression applied. Thankfully, the masters were found in 2002. The vinyl repressing in 2009 and the blu ray multichannel mixed by Steven Wilson under Robert Fripp’s supervision are incredible. One other thing I find interesting or just yet another variable are the mixes of 60’s and 70’s albums. The US stereo mixes of Beatles I find to be crap . Doesn’t hit as hard as the mono mixes of the UK pressings. But the Uk mastering , the drums are buried for the same reason the Bob Ludwig mastering of Zep 2 was rejected. People’s record stylus would jump out. Ringo Starr’s first comment about the remastered 2018 White Album was, “You can finally hear my drums!” And during the 70’s, there were mixing decisions based on the whole stereo cabinet setup most people had. So the spectrum was narrower. Some people like that sound and are used to it. Others like a real wide spectrum. I personally think the Steven Wilson mix of the Yes catalogs and Jethro Tull Aqualung are far superior with a wider spectrum. But hey, the only thing that matters is the music on whatever format you choose. That’s all cds, dvd-a, blu ray audio, Sacd, vinyl, cassette, and streaming are. Just formats .
I know a lot of people don't like Walmart but they do sell some good vinyl ,like Led Zeppelin remastered by Jimmy Page an pressed in in Germany on 180 gm vinyl and a lot of other represses ,so you can preserve your vinyl 😊
After watching this video, I listened to 13th Floor and Wara (I’m a big psychedelic and prog fan). Both were amazing but Wara was absolutely killer! It’s great that I can still discover 1960s/1970s music. Thanks for the suggestions!
I bought Led Zeppelin III when It first came out in the UK when I was 16 my first album. then went on to be a record dealer for 43 years, great video mate.
I got my Zeppelin 1 1972 issue for £18 VG + rating on discogs and a new copy is about £25 to £30 in the uk , I’m not understanding the pricing on new vinyl, love your channel.
The quality of any record pressing varies within the issue, (1st issue, 2nd issue, reissue etc...). My buddy used to own a record store and we would sit and grade the quality of the pressing, regardless of the issue. He would then value the record based on the issue and the quality of the pressing.
I posted the other two comments before the end of the video, I personally wouldn’t bother getting first pressings cause I don’t have the money. I focus on the good affordable stuff. If it’s pressed at Pallas, RTI, QRP, or record industry, and/or mastered by Kevin Gray, Chris Bellman, Robert Ludwig, Bernie Grundman, Ryan K Smith, etc and it’s affordable, I’m in. I have a $27 Frank Zappa that was pressed at Pallas and I forget at the moment who is cut by but you get the point. I would rather have a $35 analog productions, Nina Simone, pastel blues, then an original press, I don’t have the money, I don’t collect for those kinds of reasons, (historical), I just want it to sound beautiful and QUIET. something that I learned from Mike Esposito: do I really have the money in time to dig through original pressings of rumors looking for one that came off the stamper early and hasn’t been chewed up or would I rather just get the 45 RPM (and in my case the 33, as well) copies from Analog productions? Yeah, I’ll take the best sounding for $40-$60, Alex. I’ll tell you what no one cares about: your crackly sounding first press that you spent a paycheck on vs three hours of labor for an analog productions version. The 33 1/3 analog productions version of dreams, makes the panties drop faster than a first any day of the week. I’m being cheeky, but you get my point.
I really appreciate your idea of how that exact piece of vinyl was influencing future artists of California. Never looked at a test pressing like that. Only the allure of a record peeling off a brand new stamper, all details intact.
You were definitely flexing with those zep1 albums. AS YOU SHOULD!! To have both of those is just awesome. Flex away! BTW just found your channel and subscribed. Great video
I can understand why you would want an original. I've gone out of my way to collect certain originals myself. Sometimes albums are remastered and remixed, and you can't get a new copy that isn't. A good example for me was Real Gone by Tom Waits. The newer remixed remaster isn't bad at all, but if you've ever heard the original before, then it is a noticeably HUGE difference. It's worth hunting for the originals if you can.
The remaster is more than a remaster. It changes the music significantly. Real gone was my first Tom Waits album. The remaster is interesting for fans, but the original is better for sure.
I'm just getting into vinyl.... I'm curious about the "original" older records. For example, I wanted Pink Floyd- The Wall from 1979, one of the original or older pressings. I've seen some on ebay, but i don't understand the price differences. Some claim to be "1st pressings" or original records from 1979 but some are 80 dollars and some want like 400., but they are the same. same condition, same records with the same numbers and stuff on them. I just don't want to get screwed i'm not sure what to look for.
My collection is my own plain and simple. I have many originals back in 70s when I was a teenager but beat them to hell. Im happy to have a reissued album and my collection is growing again. I do it for the nostalgia; gives me great joy like many of you.
Most of the time but not always especially for 90s records, Superunknown 1st press was cut from CD and there are many examples. But for analog era 1st pressings are the best.
Great Video! You keep it real, so true to the hobby as well. Been collecting my favorites since early 1980s and didn’t really start playing them till recently, due to having kids and family, now the 1980 Pioneer system is up and running with a new cartridge and it’s all new again! I been looking for some new records I will check out your site, Happy New Year 😎
I'm 40 sec in. Sound is why to buy a original. There's a certain sound vs a re pop. And if they have to ask they will never understand. Not being rude ... I love the original sound cause you travel to a time by sound. Best thing in the universe!
I have a 1969 Led Zep 1 I got from one of my older siblings. I'd say it's VG+. What surprises me the most is how mediocre it sounds. I brought this up in a forum and someone with a lot more knowledge than me said they rushed out the initial US pressings and they do indeed sound flat. I compared it against streaming the remastered version on Tidal and the latter kicked its ass. But I have original Beatles Rubber Soul, Revolver, and the first reissue of the White Album and they're awesome! It's weird to me that my Zeppelin tape that I wore through twice back in the 80s probably sounded better than my original disk. I had crappy stuff in my system back then and now my modern far upgraded stuff reveals weaknesses I never knew existed.
It depends. If it has quiet and delicate portions of a record, I would buy a reissue. If it make sense financially to buy a reissue, I would get the reissue. Other than that, I would try to find a good to excellent copy at a reasonable price.
A few days ago I heard a song on one of the college stations here in Chicago thinking it was Janis Joplin, but when I shazamed it, it turned out to be "Monkey Island" Elevators. After seeing you bring that record up, I put it on from the Web. Now I want a copy. Found CDs and some I'm guessing audiophile pressings with a different cover. I think I'll keep an eye out for the original cover. The Led Zep? Oh yeah, I can see how cool they are. I saw Led Zep three times including the infamous Jimmy passing out on stage, that was a few months before I graduated high school. I would love footage of that. I probably have the ticket stubs from the show.
If the pressing is 80's 90's metal/ alt rock/relatively popular they usually run 100-200 bucks. If you can't afford that but still want the record, that's when id say you should swing a reissue.
Very well said - I have been asked why I have 3 vintage receivers & 4 pairs of speakers when I have a nice surround stereo setup. My reply - it sounds better !!!!
Am a fan of and a sucker for the OG pressings- wondering the hands it’s passed through, what it’s seen or what it’d say if it could talk. Part of what makes vinyl great (or physical media) is the wear on it that tells its own story. (Yes, I know I sound ridiculous)
this was a true statement that it doesnt matter to anyone what you collect. i got a reissue of house of the holy and it sounded better than the one I bought in the 70's.
It’s all subjective. And, when people ask me they want to dive in… I warn them. It’s a crazy passion, they take a lot of room and “$”. But, most of all they need a decent system. On a side note I just ordered 4 of your Noble Exclusives. Can’t wait. Great price & no tax! I’ve also ordered thee Andromeda & a few others in the past. Wonderful, beautifully packaged records! Thanks!!!
Nice one Dylan! Yes, the bottom line is collect what makes you happy. I had 12 different copies of ELP's Pictures At An Exhibition from different countries (even from countries where the quality control is suspect) because I love ELP. Then last year when they issued it on white vinyl, I bought a 13th copy. My friends don't see it, but is has meaning to me - and as you said "that's what matters." Cheers from Central California!
You killed me when you pulled out Nevermind. I have a whole heap of original pressings I got from my dad, and Nirvana are one of my all time favourite bands, and it was one of the first albums I got (but on CD). I want an original pressing of it and I looked up the prices of them recently, but there's no way I can afford one :(
I’m 63, so I was a teen in the 70’s when I started my music collection on vinyl. When I started re-collecting a few years ago, I definitely leaned toward getting early pressings. It just felt right to me. I don’t think I’ve ever spent more than $50 on a single album. If it’s more than that, I am happy with a repress. From a pragmatic point of view, not enough time on earth for me to get hundreds of dollars of enjoyment from an expensive album.
Why I collect records (and to a lesser extent, CDs): I like music. I don’t care what pressing it is, I still get excited when I find something I have been looking for even if it’s a (insert plant) pressing rather than a (insert plant) pressing.
Dylan, Are you familiar with the Pecko Duck version of LZ4? Some people think that versions mastered by George Peckham are special like the RL versions. Any thoughts? I only recently learned of George "Pecky" Peckham.
It's very interesting to hear and read about Original pressings as i can only afford reissues and honestly, theres just so much music to discover out there that for me it's just about experiencing as much music as i can afford. Also, most equipment that's affordable to most of us, very difficulty to hear the small nuances between pressings. I could be wrong though.
As a 50-year record collector and the prices today of original issue vinyl, I think your viewpoint is very sensible and it's a good way of looking at collecting vinyl. Like you said, with the amount of Music out there to experience and enjoy, it only makes sense to keep your costs down so you can collect as much as you want to. Have fun collecting.
I don’t think you need high end equipment to hear the difference in an audiophile record. Listen to the mofi copy of American Beauty and then listen to an OG. You’re going to hear a difference. I think you’d notice a difference on a Crosley
Tripped across your vid here, great watch. I could definitely sit and talk vinyl with you for hours. Great info and perspective. I’ll definitely be buying something from you soon!
Hey Dylan, love your take and philosophy on record collecting. Coolest thing is sharing my experiences with my daughter as she is getting into vinyl. Can't wait to give her her first turntable for the holidays.
Your absolute love for music stands out like beacon, I’ve added some of these to my Spotify library to listen too as I’ve not heard of them before. I saw Robert Plant in Aberystwyth, Wales recently, he was superb. I was a long haired, hippy art student when those led zeppelin albums came out here in the uk, so they are always in my collection. Brilliant vid👍🇬🇧
I like original vinyl records because there is a story to be told about the disc that can be told....or maybe thought about. There is nothing more pleasing than finding a gem of a vintage record. 😊
I've got a lot of Jazz and you're right on all points.. It's an AMAZING time to collect them. The only mono pressing I dig is Time Out on Columbia 6 eye.Amazing depth. The rest is stereo, SRX if available.
Great video! For me, if I can find an original that I can afford, I go for it, if not, I just buy the reissue. This being said, I love the 'historical fact' of having the originals and imagine how they could arrive after so many years to my hands, also if they have an story behind, that the previus owner can tell me, its just awesome! As you said, I cant explain that feeling... But again, I buy lots of reissues also, just because of the crazy pricess that some originals get, Thanks for the video!!
Dylan, I bought a bunch of Van Morison from a guy who was selling his brother's collection as he had gone into care. These records appeared to have never been played and I had in my hand UK first presses from Astral Weeks all through the 70's. I was shocked how much the orange WB labels were worth and as much as I would have love to keep them I sold them all. Astral Weeks and Moondance went to an eye doctor in NYC for a hideous amount of money and I replaced them with reissues which cost me £40. No kidding the run-ins were silent, clean flip backs, beautiful records which I will never see in that condition again. I appreciated your take on it all and pretty much align (as I suspect most do) because we can't help ourselves really, right?
Just found your channel. Subscribed to a fair few others, don’t know how I’ve missed yours. Fantastic, love your passion and knowledge, sense of humour and knowledge. Big fan, look forward to hearing heaps more. Cheers from Australia.
Sold all my 80 LPs in 1975 based on what I had read about the coming "perfect sound forever". Then 2 years later an audio store opened up in Sarasota, FL and I heard one of my favorite LPs on a Linn Sondek LP12 turntable. It took 17 years to be able to afford one but thankfully, one of the employees at that store and a good friend said: "there is good sound to be heard from LPs with lesser turntables." B&O kept me happy for those 17 years and I began to go to garage sales as people gave away their LP collections for pennies on the dollar. Lately, after amassing about 3,800 (not always for 50 cents but sometimes between $3 and $15), it's stopped being fun. I will occasionally pop for $30 for something to fill a gap or to replace a "regret" sale (for example, The Who "Direct Hits" on Track Records). But now, too often, an impulse buy for something at $60 ends up with a slight warp or other issue which, even though my turntable can handle with aplomb, is simply annoying. Funny, but almost none of my garage sale finds have warps of any kind (maybe one slight "hariline" scratch at worst case scenario). In these annoying times, I think it's time to call it a day and listen to what I have. And my Japanese Pressing of Led Zeppelin I is just fine ($8 from same friend who sold me his Linn LP12).
Really interesting topic Dillon. I am 71 and have been buying records of all kinds since I was a radio DJ in the 70s. I have settled into mostly jazz over the years & I do have more interest in originals or early pressings. The historical character appeal is hard to explain but I think you hit the right points. I do think if you are just starting, pressings like Tone Poets are the way to go, but at this stage I mostly am trying to fill holes and grails I want and go for the OGs or early pressings. I find that I can eventually find early presses or OGs that sound great to me. For example, RSD I am generally only interested in the previously unreleased material.
Considering the audio aspect, all modern releases have been mastered digitally, including re-releases of old recordings. The source of new vinyl is not analogue. The old process is gone. The old stampers are either worn or tossed. As a result, new vinyl is essentially a copy of a digital master. Thus, the drive to find the original pressings.
That’s actually not true. Some labels (including mine) use the original source. We just did AAA mastering on 2 of our releases, which means it’s straight from the original tapes, just like they used to. No digital step. Many labels do use digital, you just have to do research on which ones are good. Here’s a video of us cutting the lacquers straight from the tape: instagram.com/reel/C6KfEhEshvT/?igsh=MTg0OXh0MjlleTR5eA==
This is a great video! Unfortunately, some of us have gone as far as looking as to where it was pressed. Some plants just didn’t have great quality control and now I look for the best non digitally remastered press. And if possible from original tape. Always enjoy your videos!
Hi Dillon. Great video. I'm planning to visit your store on 12/23. I'm from Philly but will be visiting my brother in Charlotte for Christmas. Not a fan of record stores like Noble and In Groove which are owned by collectors since they know too much about value and tend to keep the best for themselves while pricing the gems accordingly. So I'm not expecting any surprise value deals but would like to see the store.
I bought the Wara on your recommendation, it was a good price from your store. I am having a little trouble navigating your site. I was looking for an a new copy of Kansas: Song For America. I like playing my records by myself. I recently had a friend over and he bump into by turn table, I was upset but had to get over it. I had just broke the seal so we could listen for the first time together. And all of a sudden the needle bounce across the record. .
Interesting thoughts and perspective as always. I'm an original vinyl collector too, but I'll buy the reissues so as not to wear out my more high end originals. However, reissues can have advantages as you mentioned. They might get different added features like higher fidelity, more artwork, maybe coloured or heavier vinyl quality or different mixes. As a side note, im always interested in how people place their vinyl in the cover, been trying to notice how you do yours. Generally i place the vinyl and sleeve outside the cover (back), and put a clear plastic cover over both. Top load, as in the opening at the top. I used to keep my records so i can slide out the record to the right, but many times they've slid away from my grasp and onto the floor. I try to avoid clear outer covers with a sticky fold over cover, as many times they've snagged the cover and in a few cases ripped bits of the cover off. I agree as far as getting Jazz reissues too. The fidelity is outstanding, plus originals can be hard on the pocket book. Cheers, & dig on diggin!
Another informative and enjoyable video Dylan- cheers. Ive been following your channel for about a year or so now. I think this is my first comment- you do a great job and I've learnt so much. Even though I'm far away in Leeds UK I'd still like to wish you and all the staff at Noble Records a very happy Christmas and best wishes for the New Year.
Curious to know, if there's some Canadian artists which you are familiar with, or like. We've had several good bands come out of Canada, and they're BIG here, but don't get airplay in the U.S. Perhaps a theme for one of your vids. Neighbours to the north😁
Of course Rush, and maybe Bryan Adams, Guess Who, B.T.O. are some our biggest exports. But there are so many more. And I'm not talking about Drake, The Weekend, or Avril Lavine. Bands, like Triumph, Trooper, Klaatu, The Kings, Streetheart, FM ( Nash the Slash ), Blue Peter, Rough Trade, Honeymoon Suite, Tom Cochrane & Red Rider ( Lunatic Fringe, is a great tune. Featured in an episode of T.V. show Miami Vice ), Teenage Head, Saga, etc. Thank you for your reply, and hope to stay in touch. Hopefully you can check out some of the bands I've mentioned, and provide some feedback Keep rocking, Bro @@noblerecords
Love your opinion and attitude towards collecting! I've been collecting since the late 60's and have sold aa previous collection. I so relate and agree with you! Love your channel!
I've got an old Santana album that got ruined by disc washing liquid at some point. Should I find a used original pressing, a new pressing, get the CD, or start some streaming download account? I really don't have space for much of anything anymore, so it would probably be some streaming download account.
I literally have almost every domestic 12 inch dance record that came out from 87-93 via a record pool I was a part of. Then on top of that, around 1000 imported 12 inch dance records and remix services as old as the early eighties. I have been cataloguing all of them. I will eventually sell them so I have been entering them into Discogs. You would be amazed at how many different pressings there are for each 12 inch single. I never realized how many test pressings I actually have. When it comes to dance records, a specific pressing can increase the value exponentially. The work of cataloguing is a very tedious thing. You have to get it right, and they hide the clues everywhere from the label to the vinyl itself at the very end where it is engraved (if that is the right word). I am going to miss my records when I do sell them, but it's time to have someone else discover how wonderful a time it was for dance music in the 80's and early 90's
Like our brother Mazzy said, it’s the music stupid ! I collect what I want to listen to at the best price I can afford. I’d love to get OG Blue Notes but their prices are ridiculous. So instead I but Tone Poets, Classic Vinyl series or OJC if they’re clean and priced right. That LZ I radio copy is amazing ! Still digging The Farm LP I got from your store. Hope all is well and Happy Holidays, Merry Christmas and Happy New Year !
Wise words at the end...don't collect to impress anyone but yourself!
Thank you!
Well said
Dylan, like you I can not explain why I collect. I’m a 61 yo addict. Spent $500 yesterday
I would do that if I had that kind of money
Hahaha I’m with you man 🤣
I spend $300 to $400 Monthly
Good to have another hobby other than the vinyl obsession
@@Matasky2010 nah
I never understood how people can’t understand the value of an original pressing. There’s nothing cooler than finding a NM pressing of a record that’s over half a century old, a fragile piece of plastic enveloped in paper that’s survived decade after decade unscathed until finally making its way into your collection where it’s safe. It’s like music archeology.
I agree! Thanks for watching! 🙏
Exactly!!
And also is the best quality both sound wise and graphically wise ( for the most part).
One of my favourite finds recently was The Who pinball wizard single because it was a magazine copy totally disposable thin flimsy bit of plastic that def will sound gross, but it survived all this time
@@Destide love stuff like that. The fact that it’s flimsy and probably doesn’t sound the best makes it all the much better 😂👍🏼
In the end only YOU will care about your collection, is a great statement.
Thanks! So true!
The LZ I test pressing story is by far the best record story you’ve shared. Just based on the actual historical relevance of that specific record. Amazing.
Yeah it’s special to me! Thanks for watching! 🙏
Spot on, love the closing: “no one cares about your collection but you”.
When buying a record your first thought should be to get a good sounding version, it doesn’t matter what edition, it’s the music that counts and is always best if it sounds good. After you’ve bought that and you like it, then you can always go after the original. Remember, it’s all about the music
I’m 67. About 30 years ago, I bought CD versions of most all of my LPs, thinking that these would be superior replacements for my “outdated” records. The good news is that I packed my old LPs away, but never got rid of them, thank goodness I didn’t! I still collect CDs, their sound is incredible, but I will never part with my LPs. I also still have my 1978 Sony Turntable.
Awesome! Pull them back out!
I love test pressings! My prized ones are my Van Halen test, pressings. I have the 1978 S/T actually, the test pressing was done in Dec. 1977 and it’s signed by Eddie on the white cover.
Wow that’s incredible!
The first time I've watched one of your videos, I really enjoyed it. There was a lot of good information. I liked the point that you made of record buyers needing to collect what's meaningful to themselves, not to try and impress anyone else. Or, don't collect something just because it's collectable. Do it only if you like it and want it. Good advice.
Thanks so much!
On the topic of Blue Note, it is worth mentioning that many 60’s & 70’s reisssues were produced with the same stampers as the first press, sonically an identical product and much more accessible price point for what is still a vintage copy.
Yes! True!
Hi Dillon. Interesting video 🤔
As OG prices/value increase, there will always be ppl wanting OG pressings.
Currently, Led Zeppelin 1 Turquoise UK pressing is selling between $1K and $3K. That’s quite a bit of money for one record (and it’s not even the best sounding version of Led Zeppelin 1)?! 😬
From my 20+ experience, most record collectors are insular, insufferable, & socially awkward ppl, but some are very insightful, friendly, & passionate. 👍🏼
My recommendation for ppl getting into the vinyl hobby: make friends with collectors who have amazing collections. Listen to the records together: talk about them & enjoy them. ✌🏼
Great perspective! I agree!
love your enthusiasm and excitement when you talk about the records
You are spot on. Also, everyone should play the records they buy! My brother asked me the other day if he should open and play a limited edition record (only 500copies). I said ABSOLUTELY! Open it, play it, and enjoy it.
LPs are made to be played not to collect dust 😎.
100% agree ... I can never own everything that I want ... but I can try😁
I love the hunt, I love the albums and, as you said, I love the "history".
It's a great hobby and an expensive one, but I love it.
Yes I agree as well!
There is nothing more inspiring than listening to someone who is passionate and supremely knowledgable about what they do. A very enjoyable video, thanks very much indeed.
You hit the nail on the head Dillon...only collect what you like and means something to you!
Thanks for watching! 🙏
Originals to me times out of 10 has more air and sound more natural.
Grew up in the 70s buying US, UK and Japanese copies and never sold my vinyl - pristine. Got back into vinyl in 2001. You could pick up incredible rare records for hardly anything. Wish I had bought even more Classic Records releases then. I like your shirt - I had one from that tour 4/30/1077 Pontiac Silverdome
Love your - nobody cares about your collection but you
Trying to get off the “have to have the best pressing” or “compare the very latest reissue” train
It’s about the history. What an honor to own an original pressing that was out in that moment in history 🤘
I'm in my 60s and I've held on to my albums since I bought in my teens and the past 10 years I've been buying more originals and represses I was trying to get only AAA albums but it's getting harder and harder great video Dylan.
Thanks for this video, Dillon, a great analysis and discussion of reissues vs OPs. Also, thanks for talking about the Wara LP you've reisued! Heard it online, loved it, and just ordered a copy from your site. Sounds really great for a late-night listen! Also neat that you've reissued this- there's so much great music buried out there that most of us will never hear, but it's always great when we find it
My thinking since I started seriously collecting has shifted greatly. I used to not care about what pressing it was, just as long as I could get it cheap. However, as with anything I start collecting, I started thinking about what I should be looking for that will retain or grow value most over time. Obviously the popularity of vinyl waxes and wanes, but there will always be that core of collectors out there. The real die hard collectors. A lot of the time, what they want, is your original pressings, your top condition copies. So my thinking is by focusing on getting those original top copies, I can have a collection of great music that plays incredibly, and it will also retain more value in a soft market than it would if I collected reissues.
Very good perspective! They aren’t making any more 1st pressings!
@@noblerecords So years ago I used to own an RL Led Zeppelin II and stupidly sold it (the story of my life). Fast forward to 2023 and I recently scored a plum/red UK copy which sounds *unbelievable* . I assume you have heard both and would love your opinion on how they compare.
Would you rather have a NM original pressing or a VG+ second pressing, like a repress from the same or following year?
Unless you’re buying Taylor Swift or Harry Stiles.
@@Pluralofvinylisvinyls I'll usually accept an early repress in place of an OG, until I can find a pristine OG.
I am 68 years of age and have been listening to Vinyl Records since I was a young boy growing up in Arkansas. I live in Thomasville, NC now and have approximately 350 albums. I also list to CD’s and I stream music over my Sonos system.
I have around 2000 ITunes on my phone.
I think that maybe because of my age not many people listen to the kind of music that I do. I don’t collect music I play it.
I play , Country, Southern Rock, Jazz, Gospel, and Blues.
70 percent of my music is Country and Southern Rock.
Almost all of my music is from the 70’s going back to 1939.
I grew up less than an hour from Johnny Cash and Levon Helm.
My favorite artist of all time is Johnny Cash mainly because l lived some of the songs he sings.
I picked cotton and worked in the fields that often flooded .
We were dirt farmers and very poor.
I left Arkansas as soon as I could and never looked back.
I absolutely do not like hard rock.
I am not a Beatles fan at all.
I do watch a lot of your videos and I highly doubt you would have anything in your store like the music I listen to.
I do continue to purchase albums.
I purchased this month another album from The Band, Ramble at the Ryman CD, another Johnny Cash album and a Eagle’s album.
The Band Album was purchased at Acoustic Sounds.
Just came across your channel. I enjoyed watching and listening to your perspective on why you collect. I used to collect comic books (meaning that I don’t buy them any more but I still have my collection) I don’t collect vinyl, but I was a DJ hobbyist (80’s + 90’s) single 12’’ freestyle and house which I still own along with my equipment. To those who collect albums, buy the music you want to hear and enjoy listening to. True what is said that no one outside the hobby cares what you have. As a guy who grew up around and buying vinyl, I am delighted that this medium has made a comeback.
Thanks for another great video. I started collecting vinyl again 3 yrs ago. Even as a 59 yr old, you have opened my eyes and ears to so much music that I didnt know existed. There is nothing better than seeking out vinyl that you have recommended like Amanaz, Mcphee and Elias Hulk. I really need to check out your exclusives (Wara).
Keep sharing your passion and knowledge.
Yes! Check them out! I only do exclusives on things I really love! Noblerecordstore.com/store
Great video and some juicy selections. That teal Zep 1 is friggin rare as heck.
Honestly and quite simply, I buy records because I’m guaranteed to listen to the whole album . The temptation to skip with cds and streaming is just too much.
Also I collect out of habit . Growing up in the 80s, I thought records were just so cool. I know how they’re made and pressed, it’s quite simple tech, but I still find it magical somehow. It’s my preferred format although I know the dynamic range is significantly lower than a cd or blu ray audio, which I also collect.
I found over the passed 20 years , it’s not really original or repress that defines what I buy. It’s particular pressings I want . For instance, Herbie Hancock - Headhunters . The originals sound just fine but the 2015 Analogue Productions pressing can’t be beat . I own that OMR of Zeppelin 2 as well, 1981 pressing. The Bob Ludwig is amazing but louder. These 2 cuts along with the Classic Recordings are my favorite pressings .
Did you know the master tapes for “In the Court of the Crimson King” were lost in the 1969? All the pressings for all formats suffered generational loss and distortion from improper eq and compression applied. Thankfully, the masters were found in 2002. The vinyl repressing in 2009 and the blu ray multichannel mixed by Steven Wilson under Robert Fripp’s supervision are incredible.
One other thing I find interesting or just yet another variable are the mixes of 60’s and 70’s albums. The US stereo mixes of Beatles I find to be crap . Doesn’t hit as hard as the mono mixes of the UK pressings. But the Uk mastering , the drums are buried for the same reason the Bob Ludwig mastering of Zep 2 was rejected. People’s record stylus would jump out. Ringo Starr’s first comment about the remastered 2018 White Album was, “You can finally hear my drums!”
And during the 70’s, there were mixing decisions based on the whole stereo cabinet setup most people had. So the spectrum was narrower. Some people like that sound and are used to it. Others like a real wide spectrum. I personally think the Steven Wilson mix of the Yes catalogs and Jethro Tull Aqualung are far superior with a wider spectrum.
But hey, the only thing that matters is the music on whatever format you choose. That’s all cds, dvd-a, blu ray audio, Sacd, vinyl, cassette, and streaming are. Just formats .
I know a lot of people don't like Walmart but they do sell some good vinyl ,like Led Zeppelin remastered by Jimmy Page an pressed in in Germany on 180 gm vinyl and a lot of other represses ,so you can preserve your vinyl 😊
After watching this video, I listened to 13th Floor and Wara (I’m a big psychedelic and prog fan). Both were amazing but Wara was absolutely killer! It’s great that I can still discover 1960s/1970s music. Thanks for the suggestions!
I bought Led Zeppelin III when It first came out in the UK when I was 16 my first album. then went on to be a record dealer for 43 years, great video mate.
I got my Zeppelin 1 1972 issue for £18 VG + rating on discogs and a new copy is about £25 to £30 in the uk , I’m not understanding the pricing on new vinyl, love your channel.
The quality of any record pressing varies within the issue, (1st issue, 2nd issue, reissue etc...). My buddy used to own a record store and we would sit and grade the quality of the pressing, regardless of the issue. He would then value the record based on the issue and the quality of the pressing.
Well there’s a lot of factors. Source material, mastering, all that. It’s a case by case deal! Thanks for watching! 🙏 happy new year!
I posted the other two comments before the end of the video, I personally wouldn’t bother getting first pressings cause I don’t have the money. I focus on the good affordable stuff. If it’s pressed at Pallas, RTI, QRP, or record industry, and/or mastered by Kevin Gray, Chris Bellman, Robert Ludwig, Bernie Grundman, Ryan K Smith, etc and it’s affordable, I’m in. I have a $27 Frank Zappa that was pressed at Pallas and I forget at the moment who is cut by but you get the point. I would rather have a $35 analog productions, Nina Simone, pastel blues, then an original press, I don’t have the money, I don’t collect for those kinds of reasons, (historical), I just want it to sound beautiful and QUIET. something that I learned from Mike Esposito: do I really have the money in time to dig through original pressings of rumors looking for one that came off the stamper early and hasn’t been chewed up or would I rather just get the 45 RPM (and in my case the 33, as well) copies from Analog productions? Yeah, I’ll take the best sounding for $40-$60, Alex. I’ll tell you what no one cares about: your crackly sounding first press that you spent a paycheck on vs three hours of labor for an analog productions version. The 33 1/3 analog productions version of dreams, makes the panties drop faster than a first any day of the week. I’m being cheeky, but you get my point.
Goddamit, that was the best video ive seen for years and days, you formulated my own thoughts better than I could myself
Hey that means a lot! Thanks!
I really appreciate your idea of how that exact piece of vinyl was influencing future artists of California. Never looked at a test pressing like that. Only the allure of a record peeling off a brand new stamper, all details intact.
You were definitely flexing with those zep1 albums. AS YOU SHOULD!! To have both of those is just awesome. Flex away!
BTW just found your channel and subscribed. Great video
I can understand why you would want an original. I've gone out of my way to collect certain originals myself. Sometimes albums are remastered and remixed, and you can't get a new copy that isn't. A good example for me was Real Gone by Tom Waits. The newer remixed remaster isn't bad at all, but if you've ever heard the original before, then it is a noticeably HUGE difference. It's worth hunting for the originals if you can.
The remaster is more than a remaster. It changes the music significantly.
Real gone was my first Tom Waits album.
The remaster is interesting for fans, but the original is better for sure.
I'm just getting into vinyl.... I'm curious about the "original" older records. For example, I wanted Pink Floyd- The Wall from 1979, one of the original or older pressings. I've seen some on ebay, but i don't understand the price differences. Some claim to be "1st pressings" or original records from 1979 but some are 80 dollars and some want like 400., but they are the same. same condition, same records with the same numbers and stuff on them. I just don't want to get screwed i'm not sure what to look for.
I have pondered this question many a time. Thanks for weighing in. I like both, too.
Thanks for watching! 🙏
Greatest singer songwriter that ever lived. That’s not subjective, that’s an objective truth. I’m not even gonna say who, because everyone knows.
My collection is my own plain and simple. I have many originals back in 70s when I was a teenager but beat them to hell. Im happy to have a reissued album and my collection is growing again. I do it for the nostalgia; gives me great joy like many of you.
Nostalgia for your youth and enjoyment; that's what it's about.
No way, I didn’t know King Crimson had a pressing on Swirl. That’s mad man. That won’t be easy to come by.
Great video man. Love the two LZ.’s. 🤙
Most of the time but not always especially for 90s records, Superunknown 1st press was cut from CD and there are many examples. But for analog era 1st pressings are the best.
Great Video! You keep it real, so true to the hobby as well. Been collecting my favorites since early 1980s and didn’t really start playing them till recently, due to having kids and family, now the 1980 Pioneer system is up and running with a new cartridge and it’s all new again! I been looking for some new records I will check out your site, Happy New Year 😎
I'm 40 sec in. Sound is why to buy a original. There's a certain sound vs a re pop. And if they have to ask they will never understand. Not being rude ... I love the original sound cause you travel to a time by sound. Best thing in the universe!
I have a 1969 Led Zep 1 I got from one of my older siblings. I'd say it's VG+. What surprises me the most is how mediocre it sounds. I brought this up in a forum and someone with a lot more knowledge than me said they rushed out the initial US pressings and they do indeed sound flat. I compared it against streaming the remastered version on Tidal and the latter kicked its ass. But I have original Beatles Rubber Soul, Revolver, and the first reissue of the White Album and they're awesome! It's weird to me that my Zeppelin tape that I wore through twice back in the 80s probably sounded better than my original disk. I had crappy stuff in my system back then and now my modern far upgraded stuff reveals weaknesses I never knew existed.
It depends. If it has quiet and delicate portions of a record, I would buy a reissue. If it make sense financially to buy a reissue, I would get the reissue. Other than that, I would try to find a good to excellent copy at a reasonable price.
A few days ago I heard a song on one of the college stations here in Chicago thinking it was Janis Joplin, but when I shazamed it, it turned out to be "Monkey Island" Elevators. After seeing you bring that record up, I put it on from the Web. Now I want a copy. Found CDs and some I'm guessing audiophile pressings with a different cover. I think I'll keep an eye out for the original cover. The Led Zep? Oh yeah, I can see how cool they are. I saw Led Zep three times including the infamous Jimmy passing out on stage, that was a few months before I graduated high school. I would love footage of that. I probably have the ticket stubs from the show.
I love that you mentioned Townes in your favorite list . I absolutely love him and have slowly been collecting his original pressings!
Good words of wisdom collect for your heart, soul and taste.
If the pressing is 80's 90's metal/ alt rock/relatively popular they usually run 100-200 bucks. If you can't afford that but still want the record, that's when id say you should swing a reissue.
Very well said - I have been asked why I have 3 vintage receivers & 4 pairs of speakers when I have a nice surround stereo setup.
My reply - it sounds better !!!!
Am a fan of and a sucker for the OG pressings- wondering the hands it’s passed through, what it’s seen or what it’d say if it could talk. Part of what makes vinyl great (or physical media) is the wear on it that tells its own story. (Yes, I know I sound ridiculous)
You get it!! 🙏🙏
Thanks as always Dylan! Will look for your store this spring! Planning an eastern seaboard trip…
Awesome! Hope to see you!
this was a true statement that it doesnt matter to anyone what you collect. i got a reissue of house of the holy and it sounded better than the one I bought in the 70's.
It’s all subjective. And, when people ask me they want to dive in… I warn them. It’s a crazy passion, they take a lot of room and “$”. But, most of all they need a decent system. On a side note I just ordered 4 of your Noble Exclusives. Can’t wait. Great price & no tax! I’ve also ordered thee Andromeda & a few others in the past. Wonderful, beautifully packaged records! Thanks!!!
Thanks so much! I hope you love them!
Nice one Dylan! Yes, the bottom line is collect what makes you happy. I had 12 different copies of ELP's Pictures At An Exhibition from different countries (even from countries where the quality control is suspect) because I love ELP. Then last year when they issued it on white vinyl, I bought a 13th copy. My friends don't see it, but is has meaning to me - and as you said "that's what matters." Cheers from Central California!
Thanks so much!
THANK YOU FOR THIS ONE , it was on my mind for a minute . you explain everything to the dot. thank you
Thanks for watching! 🙏
Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this. I'm currently rebuilding my collection on Vinyl and this is great food for thought.
You killed me when you pulled out Nevermind. I have a whole heap of original pressings I got from my dad, and Nirvana are one of my all time favourite bands, and it was one of the first albums I got (but on CD). I want an original pressing of it and I looked up the prices of them recently, but there's no way I can afford one :(
That’s the fun thing about records, you can sometimes get lucky with them!
I’m 63, so I was a teen in the 70’s when I started my music collection on vinyl. When I started re-collecting a few years ago, I definitely leaned toward getting early pressings. It just felt right to me. I don’t think I’ve ever spent more than $50 on a single album. If it’s more than that, I am happy with a repress. From a pragmatic point of view, not enough time on earth for me to get hundreds of dollars of enjoyment from an expensive album.
That makes sense! Thanks for watching! 🙏
Why I collect records (and to a lesser extent, CDs): I like music. I don’t care what pressing it is, I still get excited when I find something I have been looking for even if it’s a (insert plant) pressing rather than a (insert plant) pressing.
That’s a great way to be!
I buy records for the music all the history b/s leaves me cold. Vinyl has got stupid expensive so I rediscovered CD's and I love them.
Dylan, Are you familiar with the Pecko Duck version of LZ4? Some people think that versions mastered by George Peckham are special like the RL versions. Any thoughts? I only recently learned of George "Pecky" Peckham.
It's very interesting to hear and read about Original pressings as i can only afford reissues and honestly, theres just so much music to discover out there that for me it's just about experiencing as much music as i can afford. Also, most equipment that's affordable to most of us, very difficulty to hear the small nuances between pressings. I could be wrong though.
I totally agree! Thanks for watching! 🙏
As a 50-year record collector and the prices today of original issue vinyl, I think your viewpoint is very sensible and it's a good way of looking at collecting vinyl. Like you said, with the amount of Music out there to experience and enjoy, it only makes sense to keep your costs down so you can collect as much as you want to. Have fun collecting.
I don’t think you need high end equipment to hear the difference in an audiophile record. Listen to the mofi copy of American Beauty and then listen to an OG. You’re going to hear a difference. I think you’d notice a difference on a Crosley
Simple answer...I've compared pressings of Zep II from the RL to the Page remaster. The RL stomps every other pressing.
I have all RL led Zeppelin and yes, they do sound better.
Tripped across your vid here, great watch. I could definitely sit and talk vinyl with you for hours. Great info and perspective. I’ll definitely be buying something from you soon!
Hey Dylan, love your take and philosophy on record collecting. Coolest thing is sharing my experiences with my daughter as she is getting into vinyl. Can't wait to give her her first turntable for the holidays.
Your absolute love for music stands out like beacon, I’ve added some of these to my Spotify library to listen too as I’ve not heard of them before. I saw Robert Plant in Aberystwyth, Wales recently, he was superb. I was a long haired, hippy art student when those led zeppelin albums came out here in the uk, so they are always in my collection. Brilliant vid👍🇬🇧
haha... "Im not trying to flex or anything". That should be on the t-shirt of every collector of anything ever😆Great video dude👍
Hahahahha 💪💪💪
Fantastic channel. Congrats for your work, albuns and excelents coments. Regards from Brasil !
I like original vinyl records because there is a story to be told about the disc that can be told....or maybe thought about. There is nothing more pleasing than finding a gem of a vintage record. 😊
I agree! Thanks for watching! 🙏
I've got a lot of Jazz and you're right on all points.. It's an AMAZING time to collect them. The only mono pressing I dig is Time Out on Columbia 6 eye.Amazing depth. The rest is stereo, SRX if available.
I really loved this! I learned a ton! I also like what you said at the end. Get what you love.
Great video! For me, if I can find an original that I can afford, I go for it, if not, I just buy the reissue. This being said, I love the 'historical fact' of having the originals and imagine how they could arrive after so many years to my hands, also if they have an story behind, that the previus owner can tell me, its just awesome! As you said, I cant explain that feeling... But again, I buy lots of reissues also, just because of the crazy pricess that some originals get,
Thanks for the video!!
Thanks for watching! 🙏 I agree with your approach!
Dylan, I bought a bunch of Van Morison from a guy who was selling his brother's collection as he had gone into care. These records appeared to have never been played and I had in my hand UK first presses from Astral Weeks all through the 70's. I was shocked how much the orange WB labels were worth and as much as I would have love to keep them I sold them all. Astral Weeks and Moondance went to an eye doctor in NYC for a hideous amount of money and I replaced them with reissues which cost me £40. No kidding the run-ins were silent, clean flip backs, beautiful records which I will never see in that condition again.
I appreciated your take on it all and pretty much align (as I suspect most do) because we can't help ourselves really, right?
@11:45…the station was K-M-E-T, not K-Met. Regardless, very cool. Probably where I first hear LZ1!
Just found your channel. Subscribed to a fair few others, don’t know how I’ve missed yours.
Fantastic, love your passion and knowledge, sense of humour and knowledge.
Big fan, look forward to hearing heaps more. Cheers from Australia.
Sold all my 80 LPs in 1975 based on what I had read about the coming "perfect sound forever". Then 2 years later an audio store opened up in Sarasota, FL and I heard one of my favorite LPs on a Linn Sondek LP12 turntable. It took 17 years to be able to afford one but thankfully, one of the employees at that store and a good friend said: "there is good sound to be heard from LPs with lesser turntables." B&O kept me happy for those 17 years and I began to go to garage sales as people gave away their LP collections for pennies on the dollar. Lately, after amassing about 3,800 (not always for 50 cents but sometimes between $3 and $15), it's stopped being fun. I will occasionally pop for $30 for something to fill a gap or to replace a "regret" sale (for example, The Who "Direct Hits" on Track Records). But now, too often, an impulse buy for something at $60 ends up with a slight warp or other issue which, even though my turntable can handle with aplomb, is simply annoying. Funny, but almost none of my garage sale finds have warps of any kind (maybe one slight "hariline" scratch at worst case scenario). In these annoying times, I think it's time to call it a day and listen to what I have. And my Japanese Pressing of Led Zeppelin I is just fine ($8 from same friend who sold me his Linn LP12).
I hear that. I miss those garage sale days! Thanks for watching! 🙏
Really interesting topic Dillon. I am 71 and have been buying records of all kinds since I was a radio DJ in the 70s. I have settled into mostly jazz over the years & I do have more interest in originals or early pressings. The historical character appeal is hard to explain but I think you hit the right points. I do think if you are just starting, pressings like Tone Poets are the way to go, but at this stage I mostly am trying to fill holes and grails I want and go for the OGs or early pressings. I find that I can eventually find early presses or OGs that sound great to me. For example, RSD I am generally only interested in the previously unreleased material.
I agree on RSD! Thanks for watching! 🙏
I feel very fortunate to own original pressings of all three Mandrake Memorial albums!
Outstanding amount of work you have done . Appreciate your knowledge .
I got some pretty cool reissues. But I love originals. Of all genres mainly metal and punk for me. Nice video man
Considering the audio aspect, all modern releases have been mastered digitally, including re-releases of old recordings. The source of new vinyl is not analogue. The old process is gone. The old stampers are either worn or tossed. As a result, new vinyl is essentially a copy of a digital master. Thus, the drive to find the original pressings.
That’s actually not true. Some labels (including mine) use the original source. We just did AAA mastering on 2 of our releases, which means it’s straight from the original tapes, just like they used to. No digital step.
Many labels do use digital, you just have to do research on which ones are good.
Here’s a video of us cutting the lacquers straight from the tape:
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@@noblerecords Most labels use digital. Yours is the exception that proves the rule.
This is a great video! Unfortunately, some of us have gone as far as looking as to where it was pressed. Some plants just didn’t have great quality control and now I look for the best non digitally remastered press. And if possible from original tape. Always enjoy your videos!
Thanks for watching! 🙏
Hank Mobley, played with an mono element gives you the 'live experience' Rudy van Gelder wanted you to hear. Wasn't ment for stereo.
Hi Dillon. Great video. I'm planning to visit your store on 12/23. I'm from Philly but will be visiting my brother in Charlotte for Christmas. Not a fan of record stores like Noble and In Groove which are owned by collectors since they know too much about value and tend to keep the best for themselves while pricing the gems accordingly. So I'm not expecting any surprise value deals but would like to see the store.
I bought the Wara on your recommendation, it was a good price from your store. I am having a little trouble navigating your site. I was looking for an a new copy of Kansas: Song For America. I like playing my records by myself. I recently had a friend over and he bump into by turn table, I was upset but had to get over it. I had just broke the seal so we could listen for the first time together. And all of a sudden the needle bounce across the record. .
Hey! Thanks for grabbing wara. I really only sell my exclusives on my website right now, all the collections I get go into the shop!
I'm both also. Best of both worlds 👍 I love the video about that collection. Great story 🥰
Interesting thoughts and perspective as always. I'm an original vinyl collector too, but I'll buy the reissues so as not to wear out my more high end originals. However, reissues can have advantages as you mentioned. They might get different added features like higher fidelity, more artwork, maybe coloured or heavier vinyl quality or different mixes.
As a side note, im always interested in how people place their vinyl in the cover, been trying to notice how you do yours. Generally i place the vinyl and sleeve outside the cover (back), and put a clear plastic cover over both. Top load, as in the opening at the top. I used to keep my records so i can slide out the record to the right, but many times they've slid away from my grasp and onto the floor. I try to avoid clear outer covers with a sticky fold over cover, as many times they've snagged the cover and in a few cases ripped bits of the cover off.
I agree as far as getting Jazz reissues too. The fidelity is outstanding, plus originals can be hard on the pocket book. Cheers, & dig on diggin!
Another informative and enjoyable video Dylan- cheers. Ive been following your channel for about a year or so now. I think this is my first comment- you do a great job and I've learnt so much. Even though I'm far away in Leeds UK I'd still like to wish you and all the staff at Noble Records a very happy Christmas and best wishes for the New Year.
Curious to know, if there's some Canadian artists which you are familiar with, or like.
We've had several good bands come out of Canada, and they're BIG here, but don't get airplay in the U.S.
Perhaps a theme for one of your vids.
Neighbours to the north😁
Yeah I talk about Canadian records all the time!
Of course Rush, and maybe Bryan Adams, Guess Who, B.T.O. are some our biggest exports.
But there are so many more. And I'm not talking about Drake, The Weekend, or Avril Lavine.
Bands, like Triumph, Trooper, Klaatu, The Kings, Streetheart, FM ( Nash the Slash ), Blue Peter, Rough Trade,
Honeymoon Suite, Tom Cochrane & Red Rider ( Lunatic Fringe, is a great tune. Featured in an episode of T.V. show Miami Vice ), Teenage Head, Saga, etc.
Thank you for your reply, and hope to stay in touch.
Hopefully you can check out some of the bands I've mentioned, and provide some feedback
Keep rocking, Bro
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I want the best sound version, even if it's not an OG pressing, but I love to still get them for the artifact
Thanks I do collect what I like new and old and will check out your exclusives.
Great video man! always enjoy watching your channel!
Love your opinion and attitude towards collecting! I've been collecting since the late 60's and have sold aa previous collection. I so relate and agree with you! Love your channel!
INSANE pieces my friend!!!
I've got an old Santana album that got ruined by disc washing liquid at some point. Should I find a used original pressing, a new pressing, get the CD, or start some streaming download account? I really don't have space for much of anything anymore, so it would probably be some streaming download account.
I literally have almost every domestic 12 inch dance record that came out from 87-93 via a record pool I was a part of. Then on top of that, around 1000 imported 12 inch dance records and remix services as old as the early eighties. I have been cataloguing all of them. I will eventually sell them so I have been entering them into Discogs. You would be amazed at how many different pressings there are for each 12 inch single. I never realized how many test pressings I actually have. When it comes to dance records, a specific pressing can increase the value exponentially. The work of cataloguing is a very tedious thing. You have to get it right, and they hide the clues everywhere from the label to the vinyl itself at the very end where it is engraved (if that is the right word). I am going to miss my records when I do sell them, but it's time to have someone else discover how wonderful a time it was for dance music in the 80's and early 90's
Very cool! Thanks for watching! 🙏
I just managed to get a Led Zepp1 NZ press that was done at Grey Lynn at the laundry sharing the steam .same place the King Crims came from
Very cool!
I did get the Three Led Zepp Records from Japan with the posters They hang on my wall.The Led Zepp 3 Poster is a must have. @@noblerecords
Thanks for this. I'm about to start collecting vinyl and this confirmed a lot of what I was thinking.
Like our brother Mazzy said, it’s the music stupid ! I collect what I want to listen to at the best price I can afford. I’d love to get OG Blue Notes but their prices are ridiculous. So instead I but Tone Poets, Classic Vinyl series or OJC if they’re clean and priced right. That LZ I radio copy is amazing ! Still digging The Farm LP I got from your store. Hope all is well and Happy Holidays, Merry Christmas and Happy New Year !