Bonus point for Whitebeard: You put him, the man who fostered hundreds of troubled children into his care, in a prison. While him allying with Weather and Emporio is garanteed, I can just straight up see him making almost each enemy stand user into his new son/daughter. He coming out of GSDP with a whole new army.
The one problem with whitesnake is that you said jolyne only woke up because her grip on the bone was hurting her, if white beard gripped the bone it would turn to pure dust and he wouldn’t be able to wake up
I always loved how Whitebeard was built up to be this powerful, evil MENACE and then we get to meet him for a bit longer and it turns out he's like, one of the NICEST people in One Piece.
It's especially surprising considering in the manga he has a swastika flag the first time you see him, so you expect him to be some sort of Pirate Hilter or something
@@theoverseer1775 TO BE FAIR The swastika was a symbol meant for good fortune and prosperity, Nazi's basically took it and now most people associate it with the Nazi party when it was originally suppose to be a good thing. The Emperors of the Sea (Yonko) had sayings comparing them to the Devil. "The pirate Whitebeard, scarier than the devil." and Big Mom had something along the lines of "Not even the Devil dares to miss her tea party." You'd think all Yonkos were horrible people but Whitebeard ended up fairly good and had a crew that genuinely loved him as a father figure. He even claimed many islands to as a safety net to protect common people from other pirates.
that bone is not doing crap to white beard, the only reason Jolyne felt pain from the hip bone is because she's a "relatively" normal human. pucci himself could walk into the room and stab him with the bone and white beard would at best shift in his sleep.
bro he would cripple a dude (honestly with how buff this dude is one punch from him would probably break puchi’s bones) then adopt him. That sounds like something from a shitpost
@@jojogacha974Whitebeard longed for family, so he basically went around adopting troubled children and people into his crew and family, most of them we're people who challenged him
To be fair, a character in a similar level to Whitebeard survived a fall from airplane height with 0 damage; so yeah he probably come out of an airplane crash unscathed
SPECIFICALLY on his head, by the by; he was actively *trying* to die with that fall by impacting the terra with the most “vulnerable” part of his body, and the only thing he got out of it was a very superficial headache that had no 0 effects on him afterwards.
@@williamargott398 ^ same here, I only used “him” to refer to Kaido ‘cuz he doesn’t appear until like 300 episodes in by name (another 400 episodes later for actual entrance)
For those who dont know Whitebeard is almost 22 feet tall 298kg /657 lbs, he had the quake fruit witch allowed him to make shock waves that are strong enough to destroy the world. When he died it took 267 sword wounds, 156 gunshot wounds, 46 wounds from cannonballs, a 4 foot hole right through him from magma and another 2 foot hole from a beam of light. On top of that in the manga half of is head was completely blasted off. He died standing up with no scars on his back because he never ran away from a fight.
Don't forget about the heart attack he suffered half way through the battle, caused by his illness that others have already pointed out, which is what lead to the first magma hole being blown into his chest. It took three point blank volcanic eruptions, two to his internal organs and one melting off part of his face, to bring this monster of a man down. And he only went down _after_ beating the shit out of the guy who landed these three blows on him, then causing an earthquake that almost destroyed the entire island they were on and then finally being shot to death by an entire new pirate crew, but only after beating the shit out of their captain.
his ability isn't taking stands and memories it's being able to turn an aspect of a person into a disc with stands and memories just being some things they can turn into discs they also did this with eyesight so he could turn white beard's devil fruit into a disc and then give themselves it
A few things. For Marilyn Manson, I'm going to argue he probably could win the bet. Even if Miraschon cheats, I see him as just brute forcing his way through the bet by sheer force of will. For Bohemian Rhapsody and Underworld, I think the Quake-Quake Fruit just wins in those situations. His attack range could hit Ungalo with minimal issue, and Underworld's ability is specifically underground. He could just collapse the hole, survive because he's fucking Whitebeard, and climb out to pursue Pucci.
To be fair most of these situations are solved by whitebeard just fucking nuking the field If he founds no reason to hold back everything and everyone is fucked
Idk anything about one piece but from the video explanation I assumed it only affected the ground. How would it affect a plane in the sky? Not to mention that he would also be killing everyone else on the plane if it did.
I love how you spoil the whole heaven plan thing but refuses to spoil "the dude whitebeard was going to save." edit: this comment became a insane argumentation. I do think white beard kills MIH pucci.
I think he just assumes anyone who's watching this channel has already watched all of JoJo's. Watching all of One Piece as a prerequisite is much greater of an assumption, Marineford happens 457 episodes into a 1000+ episode franchise.
@@jacobestersonFun fact: the JoJo manga as a whole is actually longer than One Piece's manga. JoJo's manga has around 25k pages while One Piece had around 21k in September 2022 (only source I could find for One Piece page count was from September 2022)
@@ogFunnyValentinehe could kill puchi at any moment of this what if, his speed is incredible, he has conquerors which wasn't mensioned in the video and he is probably strong enough to fight and beat mih without many problems
14:38 Dog, this whole airplane section, I genuinely have tears in my eyes from laughing at the idea of whitebeard just tanking a plane crash and saying "well that just happened". God, never stop making these vids
i don't think whitebeard would feel the pain of the bone to wake up lmao. tbf his raw dura is way too much for whitesnake considering he was eating magma and all those hundreds of attacks. hes also gigantic so the acid covering him would be difficult af. he'd likely observation haki up pucci or level the entire prison instantly if he felt he was being attacked. he'd be completely immune to rhapsody since he has no connection to any characters unless u were to argue op gets brought in.
if we go by his bounty of several billion and that taking his organs is taking his life then his organs are worth a lot more then most bets he would casually do with a random person
@@josephvaccariello4181 the issue is that if the bounty is in another world, how would it be claimed? If the bounty is in the same world, it would not be active, since he is in prison in this scenario
without seeing the video I say yes not only is all Whitebeard needs (I assume in his prime) 1 punch and Pucci is done, he can see into the future (10 seconds based on Shanks), and is way too sturdy for Pucci to deal any damage combined with him being able to casually cause massive earthquakes all around earth has Pucci no way of escaping.
yeah he can the best Pucci has is using a car not only would an earthquake destroys roads Whitebeard probably come sprinting after Pucci faster than the car can go@@realestdarkie
Whitebeards powers are said to be able to destroy the one piece world, which is many times bigger than earth. Worst case scenario the heaven plan is about to succeed and whitebeard easily destroys the earth
whitebeard could destroy the entire state and tsunami it to dust, theres no way pucci could dodge 4+ tsunamis +a fucking state sized earthquake+ the prussure all that causes in the air
For the record, Whitebeard's treasure is a little village on Sphinx Island, which is his hometown. He isn't going to make any bets involving that place, so Marilyn might not be able to do anything about him.
Also in part 6 narrative on destiny, fate and stand users being drawn togheter etc are all explained as a sub category of gravity Just like how in one-piece they say it's the colour of the king only given to individuals who are destined for great things, I can totally see Pucci describe it as gifted individuals who "have a lot more gravity around them" where everyone else is fodder basically And C moon controls gravity as was his whole point with all that
I think a lot of these fights will boil down to: -Observation Haki lets him see that the stand/stand user has stinky intentions -He blasts them with conquerors, likely from literally the other side of the prison -GG stand user defeated This is, after all, assuming he is absolutely focused and determined to rip Pucci limb from limb before he can... erase free will or whatever. Even if conqueror's doesn't work because stand users have too much fighting spirit, it's safe to assume he can do the same things people like Rayleigh and the Admirals do with Armament, the thing where they use it from a distance. No-sells stuff like C-moon. ...Though, I guess if we're talking old-as-fuck Whitebeard, he probably couldn't crank out big haki at that point? iuno
@@poopoopeepee6834 Well using rules from one anime and applying them to another is kind of weird but Imma go ahead and say if advanced observation can see the future, observation can at least sense stands.
@@skittleboi1193 well that kinda seems unfair because sense stand users cant see haki they wouldn’t know which parts of there bodies weren’t covered by it There has to be something the stand users get that would level the playing field
@@poopoopeepee6834 I mean this hypothetical isn't too much about fairness all abilites are fair game the only things changed are to make sure the story stays in around the same structure.
@@poopoopeepee6834 Point of the observation haki isn't to see the stand - observation haki has the whole "tell how people are feeling, feel that they wanna attack you, yadda yadda" thing going on. Feel some dude in the prison that's thinking hostile things about Whitebeard? There's yer stand user. I don't think Whitebeard would actually just go paste some random dude for thinking bad things about him, but at the least I think it no-sells the memory wiping stand because he doesn't need to remember them to know that they think they've won a fight against him.
"Whitebeard is no pushover" _me, a One Piece fan who knows Whitebeard could literally sink the entire continent the prison is on if he wanted to:_ yeah you could say that.
Due to Haki and Stands being tangible manifestations of one’s spirit, it’s fair to say that WB could both see and injure stands. However, that also means that C-Moon would still be able to touch WB, thanks to them being similar concepts.
I always had a theory of why Whitesnake has the the acid room and the shape shift abilities. I think this may be stolen stands. The reason why he doesn't have every abilities is because stands work with some sort of compatibility system. You cant use stands if they don't fit your personality and emotions. Both Shape shifting and sticky acid illusions are pretty Pucci like. That's the reason why nobody could use Jotaro's Star Platinum and the same reason why Emporio could use Weather Report at the end. Both Emporio and Weather really really wanted to kill Pucci by that point.
Weather report (stand) is a sentient stand and the memories of Emporio where his and not Weather Report's (human), so I think he would have let Emporio use him regardless of whether pucci or not. Obviously Weather report(stand) remembers actually who pucci is now so that helps alot too.
The acid in the room *is* his ability, a mental warping substance which he can target in ways as preferring a disguise illusion, forming into a disc and copying an mental aspect of a person ie vision, memories, sprites, and to cover another person in it to cause narcolepsy and hallucinations
the fact that you described all of this without even taking Whitebeard's fruit into consideration for any of the fights just shows how much of a BEAST the man is
Don't forget that Whitebeard also has y'know, the ability to just completely utterly devastate anything and everything around him. I feel like that part was a little slept on.
@@Shushfrrn Good sir you seem to have forgotten that in the scenario pucci never even makes it that far, and to be frank whitebeard could level the entirety of florida if he wanted.
I personally think Whitesnake is just like that because he used multiple Stand Discs on it. The same way that absorbing the Green Baby changed its appearance (and name), I think it started out as a Stand that could just take discs, and Pucci cherry-picked the ones he liked.
You could make the argument that whitesnake could steal whitebeard's devil fruit, since theyre basically equivalent, not that it would affect the oitcome on the slightest, but you know....
Big Mom wins most fights in most franchises because of two different factors. First of all, her fruit allows her to instantly kill you if you're afraid. She doesn't use it much in the series but at face value that's how it works, and that alone means she can at least hypothetically defeat the vast majority of other universe's characters regardless of other factors. Secondly, she's seemingly completely immune to physical damage from the outside. Her skin is shown to be all but impenetrable and SPOILERS... Even when she's finally beaten, it's only because they pushed her into a giant hole in the ground where she fell into lava. Even then she's implied to have survived. Her fruit alone is overkill in most cases, let alone her flat-out immunity to non-internal damage and her sheer power. Lastly... With her homie powers, all she needs to do is systematically defeat stronger and stronger enemies, turn them into her loyal puppets, and suddenly she has an almost infinite army of insanely powerful spirits. The only reason she even lost to begin with in One Piece is because she didn't use her power to it's full potential, she really should've spent more time roaming the globe and making powerful homies.
@@awsomno That's true and also completely terrifying. Big Mom might be the strongest character to bring into other franchises just because of the abstract way in which her power functions.
15:02 again, no. the plane crash said everyone in it died (aside from the 2 seats). it doesn't matter how hardy you are, Underworld transfers the physical defence and *fate* of the people inside it.
With just his observation Haki Whitebeard could easily blitz every single character due to it giving him FTL reaction speeds and that's not even taking into account that he may have had future sight due to his experience and Haki prowess but I can't confirm that fact. Whitebeard also has an advantage against White Snake's "sleepy acid" due to him possessing Conqueror's Haki. That form of Haki allows its wielder to exert their tremendous willpower as a weapon / physical force. He could cancel out the ability via pure will power if Jolene could break out of it with a bit of pain.
He actually could. Observation Haki allows a person to sense invisible enemies so while Whitebeard couldn't hit a stand he could at least "perceive" them. It's debatable if you could hit a stand with Haki but since stands are both manifestations of life energy it could be possible to hit a stand with Haki attacks. @@davinsantoso96
@@davinsantoso96observation haki can allow people to see on spiritual levels, like with fujitora a blind man could still see the outlines of people around him because they have souls, and stands are manifestations of the soul, so it could be likely whitebeard could see stands.
Bro did not just say whitebeard beats jojos verse😂😂😂😂😂😂nice joke lil bro, whitebeard isnt even light speed so he cant dodge the attacks even if he knows they coming plus pucci has infinite speed
The thing is, white beard wouldn't have to deal with any of it. the second he shows up in prison he's smashing his cell wall with one punch and walking outside, finding pucci and ripping his ass into two pieces
future sight kinda counters alot of the stuff. he also has conq haki wich is kinda broken in jojo and could prob solo everything since alot of those guys have weak will power
@@Shushfrrnwillpower doesn't determine if you're not influenced by conq. If the person using conq is 1. Stronger in general and 2. Is going against someone without conq, they are going to collapse. People with strong willpower have been folded by conq.
Bro glazed whitebeard so much, like 99% of this chat think whitebeard is a god and probably hasn't even watched JJBA. like bro pucci is not a twig and all pucci needs is one touch for his memories. Haki will still get inside out and conquerors haki does not see that far in the future plus White Beard got killed by SPEARS basically any stand is stronger than that. White Beard died in marine fort. The plot armour they gave him crazy
An aspect of this kind of stuff that's really overlooked is how the power systems would actually interact. Could Whitebeard use haki to touch stands like with logia devil fruits? Would Pucci be able use haki, and by extension, Whitesnake? What kind of stand would a person like Whitebeard even have?
Haki would be able to touch stands there are 2 ways you could explain this 1. Verse equalization, basically saying haki is like hamon cause hamon is life energy stand is life energy so hampn can interact with stands 2. Haki is will power which is like life energy so it will be able to touch stands
Whitebeard's plan to beat Miu Miu would be to remember these three things: 1- 2- 3-Kill Women The guards don't have the slightest chance of even damaging him without ballistic weaponry
@@Servant_of_Allah_Most_Merciful"He was shot by 152 bullets and was hit by 46 cannonballs. And despite all this, his proud back, over the course of his entire life as a pirate, never received a single scar from running away!"
@@KyonariHowever, unfortunately fate in JoJo's can never be avoided and will always happen no matter what therefore that future sight is completely useless because fate cannot be avoided
15:51 why is it that when it comes to c-moon flipping gravity, i just see whitebeard planting his legs in to the ground itself, walking up like he is one some leisurely stroll
In white-bearded defense he was able to live with a hole in his chest and having his face blown off his durability is beyond ridiculous literally impaled and shot hundreds of times each during the war and almost none of them did any visible damage until there was two huge gaping holes in his abdomen and even then he was still able to fight for a good little while and since this is old man Whitebeard we don't even have to bring up all the nonsense he's capable of with Advanced conquerors
Honestly Pucci would probably switch his loyalty to Whitebeard and become part of his crew, they wouldn't even be enemies. Originally Ace wanted to kill Whitebeard but Whitebeard won him over. With Dio not around anymore, Pucci just clings to Dio's memory because he doesn't have any other father figure to accept him like Dio did and tell him what to do. Whitebeard would fill that role for Pucci instead, and Pucci would tell him all about his heaven plan. Whitebeard himself would attain heaven, and use this to become king of the pirates. Whitebeard and all the allies he would make would join with the Revolutionary Army to overthrow the World Government, using all of the ancient weapons to wipe out the Celestial Dragons and destroy the holy land of Marie Jois. Other rival pirates who refuse to join his crew or ally with him would go to war against Whitebeard, which would include Luffy and the Straw Hats among many other pirate crews; the other 3 of the 4 emperors would also refuse, as would Blackbeard. Luffy and the Straw Hats would have to make strange alliances with people like Big Mom and Kaido to take down Whitebeard and free the world from Whitebeard's rule. Luffy would eventually find out about Dio from his brother Ace telling him what Pucci told Whitebeard, and Luffy and the other renegade pirates who oppose Whitebeard would resurrect Dio. Dio would go on to be the captain of the Stand User Pirates, allied with the Straw Hat Pirates, Big Mom Pirates, Animal Kingdom Pirates, and so on against the Whitebeard Pirates and the Revolutionary Army for control of a world that no longer has Marines or a World Government. Then Pucci would finally come to his senses as a government official from Florida, and report everything that had happened to the Florida state government. The governor of Florida would receive a report about all of what happened, point to it as a success story, run for president, and win. However, he would be assassinated shortly after taking office by his own vice president... Dio, who he foolishly picked as a running mate. President Dio would declare all the pirates to be terrorists and order them to be hunted down by the U.S. government, which would now be run by Stand users and vampires. But then Ultimate Kars would return from outer space and use his vampire-devouring powers to devour President Dio, as the last and most powerful of the Pillar Men. Luffy would show up and use his Gear 5 form and do the biggest punch ever to launch Ultimate Kars back into outer space, and Whitebeard would step down from being king of the pirates and hand the title down to Luffy for this heroism. Then everyone would have a big party singing Bink's Brew, prior to Laboon showing up, bigger than ever, and devouring everyone in one huge gulp, leaving no survivors. The end.
I wonder who would have an easier time stopping the heaven plan Risotto or Diavolo Risotto has more experience going out and assassinating while Diavolo has the more powerful stand. If humans have iron and Risotto can manipulate it can he just move the stand user that would cause him trouble kinda like blood bending?
I don't think Whitebeard would fall to Yoyo Ma. He's been around the block and i'm pretty sure he can tell when someone is being genuine. Pretty sure he'll just take the chance go stop his head the moment he goes to boot lick.
I mean Whitebeard could absolutely annihilate Pucci, but I’m assuming his has to find out what Pucci plan is before just punching some random priest to death
@@Shushfrrn no one said that. Whitebeard is powerful, but no one’s surviving getting cut in half by made in heaven when it gets its speed going. What I was saying was Pucci with white snake and even c moon won’t be able to defend against the power of Whitebeard. He’d blow right through all Puccis stands strength and they wouldn’t have the stopping power to stop him before Whitebeard one taps Pucci. And of course is made in heaven starts it’s speed Whitebeard won’t be able to touch him, unless the massive range and power of his devil fruit distrusts or even kills Pucci as he’s running around
Whitebeard would struggle hard. He isn´t a Stand user so he could only attack the User not the stand. That would give pucci a huge advantage. Pucci could just take whitebeards memory disk without him noticing (because again he cant see or touch stands) and thats that. But I don´t know all of whitebeards strenght´s or what his armors strenght is so yeah. i thing the stand users have a good chance.
Firstly observation haki might bypass the seeing part and as far as we know his fruit doesn't have a range limit correct me if I'm wrong I haven't seen one piece in years but I'm pretty sure he can attack from the other side of the world and if he is determined enough that mean pucci dies no matter where he is in fact he might even be able to beat made in heaven as future sight
If armament haki can hit logias and hollow hollow fruit ghosts its not a stretch to say it could hit stands and observation haki can see life force which is what stands are made of
@@awsomno White beard is said to be able to destroy the one piece world, which is many times bigger than ours, he could easily destroy the Earth And this is while dying and hooked up to life support machines for the whole time
@@awsomno The reason why Made In Heaven is so strong is because its speed affects its striking power. If you read the manga or watched the anime, Anasui specifically says "Its destructive power is average at best" and The fact that Jotaro has tanked deadlier attacks (High DIO, Killer Queen's explosives etc) it wouldn't really make any sort of sense that MIH wouldn't be able to eventually get fast enough to be able to kill Whitebeard.
I think you forgetting about conquer haki a lot of the stands like the plane crush and the debt collector can be stopped by simply activating the haki as the user it self is in range and weak minded whitebeard conq haki is one of the strongest and could knock out most people Edit:also whitebeard knows a different kind of haki that hits before his actual weapon or fist hit we learn about it in wano so more possibilities that he beats puchi
Giving Edward the info that pucci is the bad guy is just too easy. If he starts with the same condition with jolyne, without any info about Pucci he'll probably just be killed without getting a chance of using his powers. And since he is a nice guy I doubt he'll use his powers strongly enough to hurt people around him, so even if he tries to escape, Jail house lock will stop him. The reason he acted so smart in the war was because he knew the opponent. Here he have no idea about stands, stand users, how they work, or whatsoever. And since he can't hurt stands or even touch and see them anyways.. I mean, if he use the conqueror haki directly to the stand user? Maybe he'll have a chance to win an opponent instantly. But he's just not a type of guy who use conquerer haki to anyone he meets, and he probably won't use it to opponents that just seem like helpless weak people. Another thing I want to say is the survivor. If he get affected by that stand he'll probably massacre countless innocent civilians and workers, which will probably damage him mentally...Alot. JoJo universe is not really so great for a person who knows nothing about stands. And if pucci just had the memory disc of jotaro he will just go straight foward for the c-moon, proabably causing the green baby to awake. This can kill Edward because he won't hurt a baby, but his body will be turned into plant in an instant. And if he stress the baby and be attacked by the green green grass of home? Hmm...he stands absolutely no chance.
Looking at the shit white beard survived at marineford, as soon as one organ is gone, bro would obliterate marilyn manson, and walk off the organ damage
Considering he has advanced observation haki, he might even be able to beat made in heaven by one tapping it before the acceleration gets too far out of hand. With his insane strength and AOE from quake moves he low diffs all of stone ocean
@@jozillaarevalo1747 he can kill pucci before he accelerate to infinite speed did you forgot that he slowly accelerate his speed and the world so if whitebeard created a shockwave that is directed to pucci that shockwave will travel so fast that it will kill pucci
@@Hazel564well canonically the birth of made in heaven create large light source then acceleration just happened immediately even a few second of time acceleration which make them lost to pucci before the acceleration getting faster and faster And even a acceleration has started WB still have problem dealing with pucci since pucci already dodge star platinum punch when the acceleration wasn't that fast mean pucci already goes much faster than light speed since part 6 star platinum is state to be faster than light
I think you don't understand something, Devil fruits are part of the Body unlike Stands which are more like souls, Haki is a spiritual energy meaning it could damage and find Made in heaven besides that just hit Pucci that will solve all problems @@smireniwaifu
@@KyonariI disagree with the part of Haki detecting stands Even paranormal entities and ghosts can see or feel the presence stands But ye whitebeard one shots if he lands a hit
Whitebeard was able to react to Ace attacks while sleeping because of his observation haki, so he probably would Counter white snake's acid with observation haki too
0:23 On a different day, you could've hidden it from me, but I literally just introduced my friend to HuniePop, so the soundtrack is now always in my radar. You really thought you could get away with putting the Nutmeg Cafe theme in a video? Hah!
16:30 and across the whole video I think you forgot that a stand is also an invisible force that Whitebeard CANNOT SEE. He wouldn't know when to even activate his haki. Even if he did, there is no reason haki would deflect the ability as haki is essentially the person's spirit given form. You know what else is spirit given form? Stands. And stands get affected by other stands multiple times in the series. Its likely either the haki would deform and crush Whitebeard, or his body would deform within the haki but be stopped by the haki layer resulting in his organs being crushed. All in all I doubt Whitebeard would even catch on to Pucci's schemes at all due to literally not being able to see what he is fighting.
Alright, let's debunk your points one by one. First off, Whitebeard has observation haki, which can activate without the user's active input in reaction to threats, even if he himself can't see stands. Second of all, stands and haki are different things. They both come from the same source, willpower, but that's like saying milk and wool are the same thing because they both come from a sheep, so while Armament Haki doesn't guarantee an immunity to a stand's ability, there's also no evidence that the haki would deform or crush Whitebeard, that's bullshit. Also, at the end of the day, all Whitebeard has to do is fucking wreak havoc upon the world with one of his scale 20 earthquakes and call it a day. Being really fast doesn't matter if the shockwaves go everywhere.
@@M4x_P0w3r First off, there is no reason that observation haki would be able to sense stands in any way shape or form. If you say that it can, then that implies that haki is linked to stands in a way that makes you're second point useless, proving that they aren't just 'different', which proves my point. Chewie dog straight up just said 'it wouldn't work' so I said keyword 'likely' that the stand would be able to bypass it, so it was actually me just disproving that you can't objectively say that 'it wouldn't work'. Finally this story he created isn't him getting told 'kill Pucci' he is replacing Jolyne, so why would he want to wreak havoc in any way, he has no reason to. My point is, Whitebeard would be dead before he even realised it, all Pucci has to do is either avoid him until MIH/CMOON and punch/speed blitz him or just try to kill him with Whitesnake. I'd also like to see whitebeard beat someone as smart as Pucci when he is hiding, as Whitebeard can't attack stands either so literally can't damage him. I really don't think he's the kind of guy to get hit a few times and decide to just destroy the whole prison aswell.
@@diamondscar5818 Observation haki detects danger around him and the ill intent from the user, which is the one that controls the stand. If say Jotaro was about to hit him with Star Platinum, Whitebeard would see himself being hit by an invisible force and therefore would know something is up. Therefore, that whole part of your comment is pointless. If Pucci tries to kill him with Whitesnake, Whitebeard kills him way faster. If Pucci is in his CMOON phase, Whitebeard can still counterattack the gravitational pulls thanks to his shockwaves, which are more than strong enough to counteract the altered gravity. His surface inversion would work much slower, if at all, on Whitebeard considering his immense might and durability. Honestly, his best bet is to try and rapidly age Whitebeard, considering his advanced age and health problems. And if it's MIH we are talking about, guess what? The shockwaves of his attacks are accelerated as well. Whitebeard didn't precisely get to lead an armada of 1.6 thousand crew members and dozens of territories and organize an assault on the marine headquarters by being stupid. Overall, what you don't seem to get is that the Quake fruit gives Whitebeard immense range of attack. It doesn't really matter that he can't touch Pucci's given stand at any time, because wherever his stand is, Pucci must be as well. And if Pucci goes down, so does his stand. And let me tell you that a single attack from Whitebeard is enough to obliterate Pucci 500 times over.
@@M4x_P0w3r Observation Haki detects ill intent from the user. But only if in range. You also said Whitebeard would ‘see himself getting hit’ nice try but that’s future sight which Whitebeard did not have. If Pucci is hidden (keep in mind whitesnake is a medium range pilot stand, and so is cmoon) perhaps Whitebeard would sense intent, but it might not work if Pucci wasn’t actually there, and even if it did, what would he do? Non stand users cannot attack stands. Your whole ‘if whitesnake is there so is Pucci’ is sort of random because like I said he distances himself from the stand. Keep in mind he isn’t going to think ‘I know the stand user must be nearby’ because he doesn’t even know how they work yet. Also due to the fact that Whitebeard replaces Jolyne in this scenario, I have said before he isn’t going to just destroy the whole prison just to kill Pucci when he doesn’t even know he wants to kill him yet. You are forgetting that this is all based upon him actually finding out about the plan without seeing stands. About Whitebeard reversing the gravity with shockwaves. That is the silliest thing I have ever heard. What is he gonna do? Punch himself? He’ll do even more damage than Cmoon! Not to mention while Cmoon uses gravity, it’s not ‘just gravity’ gravity doesn’t have the force to turn someone inside out, the stand is much stronger than you think. Finally in MIH Pucci would probably just kill Whitebeard before he could even use a shockwave considering how long it would take to actually use one (I mean to activate one), or he could just wait out Universe reset and kill baby Whitebeard. You need to remember the only reason Pucci was super mega careful and had a long battle when he had MIH was because he was just terrified of Jotaro. Whitebeard isn’t as fast, and cannot stop time. Pucci wouldn’t hesitate for a second.
@@diamondscar5818 Only if in range, true. Last I've seen, Whitesnake has about a 20 meter range, C-Moon has a 3km range but only on its gravitational shift effect and Made in Heaven is also a close range stand. The only way Pucci is safe from it is if he hides and activates the gravity fuckery of CMoon, meaning he cant use his far more deadly abilities on him. "If whitesnake is there so is Pucci" I mean that if Whitesnake is there, Pucci has to be in the immediate area around it, so he's not safe. And you haven't really explained why Whitebeard wouldn't destroy the jail. Jolyne doesn't because she can't, but Whitebeard not only can, but he's an infamous pirate that isn't afraid of collateral damage. If he thinks the prison going down is necessary, he'll fart and the entire prison and everyone inside is reduced to rubble. Okay, maybe this part is me explaining myself poorly. No, Whitebeard can't reverse gravity with his shockwaves,, that is indeed silly. What he can is counteract the effect of the gravity with his shockwaves. Third law of newton in action, think basically geppo but on a larger scale (no, I'm not saying Whitebeard can use geppo, but theoretically he can replicate its effects with the push force of his shockwaves). "In MIH Pucci would probably kill Whitebeard before he could even use a shockwave" Okay, how? He sure as hell won't be killing Whitebeard by throwing a few knives like he did with Jotaro and Jolyne, and Whitebeard is still fast as fuck. He'd be able to tank basically anything Pucci can throw at him and retaliate with a sped up earthquake of his. And if he waits for the universe to be reset, then he won't be able to just kill baby Whitebeard. Anyone who survives the time acceleration is brought into the new world and positioned exactly where they should be according to fate. Therefore, Pucci would need to fight Whitebeard as he is at the time he was at the prison, and not before. If he could do what you suggest, don't you think he would have done so with Emporio? Yeah, Pucci was so careful with Jotaro because of his time stop. Now think how terrified he would be of a giant of a man that has strength beyond that of 100 Jotaros, can tank basically anything you throw at him, can perceive intentions and attacks before they are dealt, knock people unconscious by just willing it and that can wreck havoc on his surroundings. Time stop or not, Whitebeard is a far more deadly opponent than Jotaro is.
So if we're going by this new rule that Whitebeard can now see and damage stands without being a stand user, I think Whitesnake might've had a chance if he took Whitebeard's Memory while he's sleeping. Pucci made Domenico almost completely nonthreatening from stealing his memory, so Whitebeard may be the same case. As for C-Moon, Pucci could just stand on the floor since everything in a 2 mile radius gets flipped in the opposite direction via gravity, sure it won't send him to space, but it would a big hinderance, enough at least to stall for Made in Heaven
Can you make a video of jeffy stop the heaven plan
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Jeffy wood stop the heaven plan BC he wode make c moon or white snake lose some braincells or hit him so heart he dies
Why are you asking me this? Who’s white beard? The heaven plan? Are you ok?
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Merilyn Manson got to him😔
This Is OBVIOUSLY A Wendys
Mr White, what are you saying?
Bonus point for Whitebeard:
You put him, the man who fostered hundreds of troubled children into his care, in a prison. While him allying with Weather and Emporio is garanteed, I can just straight up see him making almost each enemy stand user into his new son/daughter.
He coming out of GSDP with a whole new army.
When he leaves 99% of the prisoner will follow him
Whitebeard will have his own army of stand users
whitebeard when green state dolphin prison:
Have we forgot he cant see stands
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Obs Haki he still can sense the danger and know his enemy intentions
The one problem with whitesnake is that you said jolyne only woke up because her grip on the bone was hurting her, if white beard gripped the bone it would turn to pure dust and he wouldn’t be able to wake up
TRUE
@@eduardopantoja9115bro He is not talking about dio bone
He is talking about emporio's mother bone💀☠️
@@chewiedog1tbh i dont think the poison could even do much to the man whitebeard is.
also you downplayed whitebeard so much in this battle.
Why is this entire comment section talking about people gripping other people's bone??? 💀
@@eduardopantoja9115bro watched the series with the screen off
I always loved how Whitebeard was built up to be this powerful, evil MENACE and then we get to meet him for a bit longer and it turns out he's like, one of the NICEST people in One Piece.
Dad vibes
Whitebeard is a menace strength wise but otherwise he’s a good dude
I never watched the show, but even I knew he's one of those papa bear type behemoths
It's especially surprising considering in the manga he has a swastika flag the first time you see him, so you expect him to be some sort of Pirate Hilter or something
@@theoverseer1775 TO BE FAIR
The swastika was a symbol meant for good fortune and prosperity, Nazi's basically took it and now most people associate it with the Nazi party when it was originally suppose to be a good thing.
The Emperors of the Sea (Yonko) had sayings comparing them to the Devil. "The pirate Whitebeard, scarier than the devil." and Big Mom had something along the lines of "Not even the Devil dares to miss her tea party."
You'd think all Yonkos were horrible people but Whitebeard ended up fairly good and had a crew that genuinely loved him as a father figure. He even claimed many islands to as a safety net to protect common people from other pirates.
that bone is not doing crap to white beard, the only reason Jolyne felt pain from the hip bone is because she's a "relatively" normal human. pucci himself could walk into the room and stab him with the bone and white beard would at best shift in his sleep.
That acid would do like nothing to him too, Pucci would be standing waiting for hours as he just has a nice nap the entire time
What do you mean shift in his sleep, the bone would turn to dust when it comes in contact with wb
granted he took like 250 sword wounds. he'd probably wake up before pucci even scratch him
@@Goblin_Hater_37 i mean. Why would Whitebeard have a resistance to a stand power. If the stand says Nap time wtf is he gonna do.
@@lazarlazarteam1033 white beard on death bed beat the crap out of ace when he was sleeping what is a nap gonna do to him
Witebeard: destroys the entire prison, beats up Pucci, and then adopts Pucci along with the entire prison.
bro he would cripple a dude (honestly with how buff this dude is one punch from him would probably break puchi’s bones) then adopt him. That sounds like something from a shitpost
Whitebeard adopts everyone he defeats. @@jojogacha974
@@koffertje huh.
@@jojogacha974yeah thats bassically how ace joined his crew
@@jojogacha974Whitebeard longed for family, so he basically went around adopting troubled children and people into his crew and family, most of them we're people who challenged him
To be fair, a character in a similar level to Whitebeard survived a fall from airplane height with 0 damage; so yeah he probably come out of an airplane crash unscathed
SPECIFICALLY on his head, by the by; he was actively *trying* to die with that fall by impacting the terra with the most “vulnerable” part of his body, and the only thing he got out of it was a very superficial headache that had no 0 effects on him afterwards.
You mean Kaido?
@@dylee818 yes, didn’t want to give spoilers for anyone who hadn’t seen the series but ye
@@williamargott398 ^ same here, I only used “him” to refer to Kaido ‘cuz he doesn’t appear until like 300 episodes in by name (another 400 episodes later for actual entrance)
Vesna Vulovic was a Serbian flight attendant who survived the highest fall without a parachute at 10.15 Kilometers or 6.31 Miles.
For those who dont know Whitebeard is almost 22 feet tall 298kg /657 lbs, he had the quake fruit witch allowed him to make shock waves that are strong enough to destroy the world. When he died it took 267 sword wounds, 156 gunshot wounds, 46 wounds from cannonballs, a 4 foot hole right through him from magma and another 2 foot hole from a beam of light. On top of that in the manga half of is head was completely blasted off. He died standing up with no scars on his back because he never ran away from a fight.
also he was a cancer patient for like a decade lmao
Don't forget about the heart attack he suffered half way through the battle, caused by his illness that others have already pointed out, which is what lead to the first magma hole being blown into his chest.
It took three point blank volcanic eruptions, two to his internal organs and one melting off part of his face, to bring this monster of a man down. And he only went down _after_ beating the shit out of the guy who landed these three blows on him, then causing an earthquake that almost destroyed the entire island they were on and then finally being shot to death by an entire new pirate crew, but only after beating the shit out of their captain.
Hé cant destroy the World lol
@Heccyboi the océan is not the planet
Hé only did that to one chunk
Marine Ford is an island
@@Bruh-wtf-did-i-just-watch it was literally stated he can tho..
Imagine being pucci and this 22ft grandpa is just hunting you down.
And the grandpa is busting through walls and somehow see the future.
Imagine being whitebeard and getting negged
And destroys oxygen
@@Freaky-RaineHe can also grab you from 10 meters
@@Shushfrrnas a jojo fanboy, get off the drugs 💀
You kind of forgot that Whitesnake can just take peoples memories. His ability is not just taking stands visibly is taking stands and memories
Kind of what i was thinking too
his ability isn't taking stands and memories it's being able to turn an aspect of a person into a disc with stands and memories just being some things they can turn into discs they also did this with eyesight so he could turn white beard's devil fruit into a disc and then give themselves it
@@templatename2143 yea
A few things.
For Marilyn Manson, I'm going to argue he probably could win the bet. Even if Miraschon cheats, I see him as just brute forcing his way through the bet by sheer force of will.
For Bohemian Rhapsody and Underworld, I think the Quake-Quake Fruit just wins in those situations. His attack range could hit Ungalo with minimal issue, and Underworld's ability is specifically underground. He could just collapse the hole, survive because he's fucking Whitebeard, and climb out to pursue Pucci.
To be fair most of these situations are solved by whitebeard just fucking nuking the field
If he founds no reason to hold back everything and everyone is fucked
Idk anything about one piece but from the video explanation I assumed it only affected the ground. How would it affect a plane in the sky? Not to mention that he would also be killing everyone else on the plane if it did.
@@sifsuxIDVno, white beard can not only create shockwaves but he can also distort miles of land
@@sifsuxIDVone of the clips in the video showed him "grabbing" the sky to cause massive tremors
@@sifsuxIDVbut his fruit doesn't only affect the ground
I love how you spoil the whole heaven plan thing but refuses to spoil "the dude whitebeard was going to save."
edit: this comment became a insane argumentation. I do think white beard kills MIH pucci.
I think he just assumes anyone who's watching this channel has already watched all of JoJo's. Watching all of One Piece as a prerequisite is much greater of an assumption, Marineford happens 457 episodes into a 1000+ episode franchise.
@@jacobesterson pretty much that what I thougth.
finished both animes,jojo is better for me but white beard can kill pucci from the start if he wanted too@@jacobesterson
@@jacobestersonFun fact: the JoJo manga as a whole is actually longer than One Piece's manga. JoJo's manga has around 25k pages while One Piece had around 21k in September 2022 (only source I could find for One Piece page count was from September 2022)
@@ogFunnyValentinehe could kill puchi at any moment of this what if, his speed is incredible, he has conquerors which wasn't mensioned in the video and he is probably strong enough to fight and beat mih without many problems
14:38 Dog, this whole airplane section, I genuinely have tears in my eyes from laughing at the idea of whitebeard just tanking a plane crash and saying "well that just happened". God, never stop making these vids
3:08 "Thanks to the gura gura no mi"
As if wb can't fr lift the entire cell block with one arm
he just causes a magnitude 15 earthquake and he wins, and remember, thats whitebeard suffering from stage 4 cancer
i don't think whitebeard would feel the pain of the bone to wake up lmao. tbf his raw dura is way too much for whitesnake considering he was eating magma and all those hundreds of attacks. hes also gigantic so the acid covering him would be difficult af. he'd likely observation haki up pucci or level the entire prison instantly if he felt he was being attacked. he'd be completely immune to rhapsody since he has no connection to any characters unless u were to argue op gets brought in.
Who’s op?
one piecei m guessing@@jojogacha974
@@jojogacha974 one piece oops
@@therealest9651 oh. Wait so what would happen if whitebeard saw whitebeard?
@@jojogacha974 no clue maybe he explodes by d4c rules or it just wouldnt happen since hes here meaning one piece is real
Have you considered that the value of Whitebeard's organs is questionable as his size presumably makes them incompatible with a normal human.
so they will worth even less.
Or more based on stem cell research and using the organ tissues to replace damaged organ tissues.
if we go by his bounty of several billion and that taking his organs is taking his life then his organs are worth a lot more then most bets he would casually do with a random person
@@josephvaccariello4181 the issue is that if the bounty is in another world, how would it be claimed? If the bounty is in the same world, it would not be active, since he is in prison in this scenario
@@eemelikorteniemi3966the organs can be selled for money either way if not even more
Studying the organa
without seeing the video I say yes not only is all Whitebeard needs (I assume in his prime) 1 punch and Pucci is done, he can see into the future (10 seconds based on Shanks), and is way too sturdy for Pucci to deal any damage combined with him being able to casually cause massive earthquakes all around earth has Pucci no way of escaping.
yeah he can the best Pucci has is using a car not only would an earthquake destroys roads Whitebeard probably come sprinting after Pucci faster than the car can go@@realestdarkie
Whitebeards powers are said to be able to destroy the one piece world, which is many times bigger than earth.
Worst case scenario the heaven plan is about to succeed and whitebeard easily destroys the earth
whitebeard could destroy the entire state and tsunami it to dust, theres no way pucci could dodge 4+ tsunamis +a fucking state sized earthquake+ the prussure all that causes in the air
yep I think 100 times bigger than earth@@RennHans
bro what pucci soloes with whitesnake he doesnt even need made in heaven or c moon
For the record, Whitebeard's treasure is a little village on Sphinx Island, which is his hometown. He isn't going to make any bets involving that place, so Marilyn might not be able to do anything about him.
Whitebeard could also use conquers haki on every single person he has to face
If it’s old mf wb he can’t use conq due to his sickness
Also in part 6 narrative on destiny, fate and stand users being drawn togheter etc are all explained as a sub category of gravity
Just like how in one-piece they say it's the colour of the king only given to individuals who are destined for great things, I can totally see Pucci describe it as gifted individuals who "have a lot more gravity around them" where everyone else is fodder basically
And C moon controls gravity as was his whole point with all that
I think a lot of these fights will boil down to:
-Observation Haki lets him see that the stand/stand user has stinky intentions
-He blasts them with conquerors, likely from literally the other side of the prison
-GG stand user defeated
This is, after all, assuming he is absolutely focused and determined to rip Pucci limb from limb before he can... erase free will or whatever. Even if conqueror's doesn't work because stand users have too much fighting spirit, it's safe to assume he can do the same things people like Rayleigh and the Admirals do with Armament, the thing where they use it from a distance. No-sells stuff like C-moon.
...Though, I guess if we're talking old-as-fuck Whitebeard, he probably couldn't crank out big haki at that point? iuno
But even with observation haki it would be kinda pointless against a stand user since he wouldn’t be able to see the stand
@@poopoopeepee6834 Well using rules from one anime and applying them to another is kind of weird but Imma go ahead and say if advanced observation can see the future, observation can at least sense stands.
@@skittleboi1193 well that kinda seems unfair because sense stand users cant see haki they wouldn’t know which parts of there bodies weren’t covered by it
There has to be something the stand users get that would level the playing field
@@poopoopeepee6834 I mean this hypothetical isn't too much about fairness all abilites are fair game the only things changed are to make sure the story stays in around the same structure.
@@poopoopeepee6834 Point of the observation haki isn't to see the stand - observation haki has the whole "tell how people are feeling, feel that they wanna attack you, yadda yadda" thing going on. Feel some dude in the prison that's thinking hostile things about Whitebeard? There's yer stand user.
I don't think Whitebeard would actually just go paste some random dude for thinking bad things about him, but at the least I think it no-sells the memory wiping stand because he doesn't need to remember them to know that they think they've won a fight against him.
12:02 Assuming whitebeard doesn't just crush the bone to dust in his sleep, not that the acid would do anything to wb anyways
If we're being real, he'd probably be bringing along Jolyne's gang, as well as a LOT of other stand users. He's jsut that kind of guy.
"Whitebeard is no pushover"
_me, a One Piece fan who knows Whitebeard could literally sink the entire continent the prison is on if he wanted to:_
yeah you could say that.
Due to Haki and Stands being tangible manifestations of one’s spirit, it’s fair to say that WB could both see and injure stands. However, that also means that C-Moon would still be able to touch WB, thanks to them being similar concepts.
He can't stop Pucci from clapping Dios cheeks
Whitebeard probably believes in gay rights.
He can join in too.
Sorry guys i meant to say that he WILL join in.
There is a reason mf didn't get any children, and it wasnt because his seed spitter aint working
@@dan_asd bout to use his df to shake THAT ASS
@@mithmoonwalker chad whitebeard
I always had a theory of why Whitesnake has the the acid room and the shape shift abilities.
I think this may be stolen stands. The reason why he doesn't have every abilities is because stands work with some sort of compatibility system. You cant use stands if they don't fit your personality and emotions.
Both Shape shifting and sticky acid illusions are pretty Pucci like. That's the reason why nobody could use Jotaro's Star Platinum and the same reason why Emporio could use Weather Report at the end. Both Emporio and Weather really really wanted to kill Pucci by that point.
Weather report (stand) is a sentient stand and the memories of Emporio where his and not Weather Report's (human), so I think he would have let Emporio use him regardless of whether pucci or not. Obviously Weather report(stand) remembers actually who pucci is now so that helps alot too.
The acid in the room *is* his ability, a mental warping substance which he can target in ways as preferring a disguise illusion, forming into a disc and copying an mental aspect of a person ie vision, memories, sprites, and to cover another person in it to cause narcolepsy and hallucinations
I have no idea what one piece is about or who white beard is but this video makes me think he's an absolute fucking chad
He absolutely is
Whitebeard is probably the single biggest chad in anime. Change my mind.
the fact that you described all of this without even taking Whitebeard's fruit into consideration for any of the fights just shows how much of a BEAST the man is
"no one can live without a heart"
Bayonetta: hold my tea
I will admit, seeing the JJBA x One Piece video notification pop up made me immediately click it
Don't forget that Whitebeard also has y'know, the ability to just completely utterly devastate anything and everything around him. I feel like that part was a little slept on.
Dont forget that pucci also has y'know the ability to reset the whole universe
@@ShushfrrnImplying that Whitebeard won't just decimate him while he's accelerating
Woah no way😢he can reset the universe... and proceed to do no damage to Whitebeard. Shocker.
@@M4x_P0w3rInfinite speed goes crazy
@@Shushfrrn Good sir you seem to have forgotten that in the scenario pucci never even makes it that far, and to be frank whitebeard could level the entirety of florida if he wanted.
THE STANDS!!!!
THE STANDS ARE REAAAAALL!!!
Can we get much Higher?
So high~
Yall keep forgetting something… HE CANT SEE STANDS NOR ATTACK THEM
For bohemian Rhapsody, whitebeard wouldn’t have a problem cause he can’t look up to any fictional characters because it’s after his time.
Sora warrior of the sea comes to attack him
@@elementa7463fr😂
No matter what timeline are you in.
There would always be lots of fictional characters that you would probably heard of or even believe in.
one piece????
@@Muchinoi bro did not read the bohemian rhapsody arc
13:32 if he asks me for directions,i would probably say "North latitude, 28 degrees, 24 minutes, West longitude 80 degrees, 36 minutes"
I personally think Whitesnake is just like that because he used multiple Stand Discs on it. The same way that absorbing the Green Baby changed its appearance (and name), I think it started out as a Stand that could just take discs, and Pucci cherry-picked the ones he liked.
Asked a relative that works as a pilot and they confirmed that Whitebeard is over 2 times too tall to fit inside an airplane standing up
this video is brilliant, I hope you blow up soon! the editing and story telling is fantastic!
How could you wish him to blow up 😱😱😱😱😱
You could make the argument that whitesnake could steal whitebeard's devil fruit, since theyre basically equivalent, not that it would affect the oitcome on the slightest, but you know....
i want to see big mom vs every stand from a part cuz the soul fruit might just be able to make stands.
That is true stands are related to souls and she can steal souls and put them in literally anything imagined a living hurricane with weather report
Big Mom wins most fights in most franchises because of two different factors. First of all, her fruit allows her to instantly kill you if you're afraid. She doesn't use it much in the series but at face value that's how it works, and that alone means she can at least hypothetically defeat the vast majority of other universe's characters regardless of other factors. Secondly, she's seemingly completely immune to physical damage from the outside. Her skin is shown to be all but impenetrable and SPOILERS...
Even when she's finally beaten, it's only because they pushed her into a giant hole in the ground where she fell into lava. Even then she's implied to have survived. Her fruit alone is overkill in most cases, let alone her flat-out immunity to non-internal damage and her sheer power.
Lastly... With her homie powers, all she needs to do is systematically defeat stronger and stronger enemies, turn them into her loyal puppets, and suddenly she has an almost infinite army of insanely powerful spirits. The only reason she even lost to begin with in One Piece is because she didn't use her power to it's full potential, she really should've spent more time roaming the globe and making powerful homies.
@@awsomno That's true and also completely terrifying. Big Mom might be the strongest character to bring into other franchises just because of the abstract way in which her power functions.
white beard wouldn't see the stand since he isn't a user so if jail house lock is used. he just gets dementia
15:02 again, no. the plane crash said everyone in it died (aside from the 2 seats). it doesn't matter how hardy you are, Underworld transfers the physical defence and *fate* of the people inside it.
Proof? cuz I don't remember the whole physical defense transfer thing
With just his observation Haki Whitebeard could easily blitz every single character due to it giving him FTL reaction speeds and that's not even taking into account that he may have had future sight due to his experience and Haki prowess but I can't confirm that fact.
Whitebeard also has an advantage against White Snake's "sleepy acid" due to him possessing Conqueror's Haki. That form of Haki allows its wielder to exert their tremendous willpower as a weapon / physical force. He could cancel out the ability via pure will power if Jolene could break out of it with a bit of pain.
But Whitebeard cant see stands Sadly
He actually could. Observation Haki allows a person to sense invisible enemies so while Whitebeard couldn't hit a stand he could at least "perceive" them.
It's debatable if you could hit a stand with Haki but since stands are both manifestations of life energy it could be possible to hit a stand with Haki attacks. @@davinsantoso96
@@davinsantoso96observation haki can allow people to see on spiritual levels, like with fujitora a blind man could still see the outlines of people around him because they have souls, and stands are manifestations of the soul, so it could be likely whitebeard could see stands.
@@UsoppDgreat oh I see
Bro did not just say whitebeard beats jojos verse😂😂😂😂😂😂nice joke lil bro, whitebeard isnt even light speed so he cant dodge the attacks even if he knows they coming plus pucci has infinite speed
The thing is, white beard wouldn't have to deal with any of it. the second he shows up in prison he's smashing his cell wall with one punch and walking outside, finding pucci and ripping his ass into two pieces
Before that tho pucci just runs through midbeard at infinite speed
@@Shushfrrn but at that point pucci wouldn't have made in heaven yet
Thats not how MIH works.
The world over heaven actually exist, since diavolo died to it.
future sight kinda counters alot of the stuff. he also has conq haki wich is kinda broken in jojo and could prob solo everything since alot of those guys have weak will power
None of the god tier jojos charaters have weak will power also pucci negs
Yes ik I just ment some of them
It either stops at c-moon or mih in my opinion
@@Shushfrrnwillpower doesn't determine if you're not influenced by conq. If the person using conq is 1. Stronger in general and 2. Is going against someone without conq, they are going to collapse. People with strong willpower have been folded by conq.
Bro glazed whitebeard so much, like 99% of this chat think whitebeard is a god and probably hasn't even watched JJBA. like bro pucci is not a twig and all pucci needs is one touch for his memories. Haki will still get inside out and conquerors haki does not see that far in the future plus White Beard got killed by SPEARS basically any stand is stronger than that. White Beard died in marine fort. The plot armour they gave him crazy
An aspect of this kind of stuff that's really overlooked is how the power systems would actually interact. Could Whitebeard use haki to touch stands like with logia devil fruits? Would Pucci be able use haki, and by extension, Whitesnake? What kind of stand would a person like Whitebeard even have?
Haki would be able to touch stands there are 2 ways you could explain this 1. Verse equalization, basically saying haki is like hamon cause hamon is life energy stand is life energy so hampn can interact with stands
2. Haki is will power which is like life energy so it will be able to touch stands
whitebeards stand would probably be earfquake a reference to tyler to creator
Yoo that's actually fire
Or he could just like spam his fruit and bury pucci in the rubble
Stop spamming bro!!!11
Ez spammer noob😎
Whitebeard one shots the island killing everyone instantly
Whitebeard's plan to beat Miu Miu would be to remember these three things:
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2-
3-Kill Women
The guards don't have the slightest chance of even damaging him without ballistic weaponry
Ballistic weaponary ain't doin shit against whitebeard he tanked 46 shots from cannon
@@Servant_of_Allah_Most_Merciful"He was shot by 152 bullets and was hit by 46 cannonballs. And despite all this, his proud back, over the course of his entire life as a pirate, never received a single scar from running away!"
@@jacobesterson and it doesn't even compare to the wounds he got from akainu and his son that i forgot name of
Can we get much higher? **pucci ascends**
You failed to mention that whitebeard would possibly not know about c moons inside out ability
He has advanced armament so there is no touching between them
@@AndrejKovacevic-id8hy why would he even know that it is that harmful
he can see in the future 10 seconds to be exact @@Prickyboi
@@Kyonari on point
@@KyonariHowever, unfortunately fate in JoJo's can never be avoided and will always happen no matter what therefore that future sight is completely useless because fate cannot be avoided
White beard look like bubba from prison in the thumbnail
6:32 “Bruce force”
15:51 why is it that when it comes to c-moon flipping gravity, i just see whitebeard planting his legs in to the ground itself, walking up like he is one some leisurely stroll
In white-bearded defense he was able to live with a hole in his chest and having his face blown off his durability is beyond ridiculous literally impaled and shot hundreds of times each during the war and almost none of them did any visible damage until there was two huge gaping holes in his abdomen and even then he was still able to fight for a good little while and since this is old man Whitebeard we don't even have to bring up all the nonsense he's capable of with Advanced conquerors
Honestly Pucci would probably switch his loyalty to Whitebeard and become part of his crew, they wouldn't even be enemies. Originally Ace wanted to kill Whitebeard but Whitebeard won him over. With Dio not around anymore, Pucci just clings to Dio's memory because he doesn't have any other father figure to accept him like Dio did and tell him what to do. Whitebeard would fill that role for Pucci instead, and Pucci would tell him all about his heaven plan. Whitebeard himself would attain heaven, and use this to become king of the pirates. Whitebeard and all the allies he would make would join with the Revolutionary Army to overthrow the World Government, using all of the ancient weapons to wipe out the Celestial Dragons and destroy the holy land of Marie Jois.
Other rival pirates who refuse to join his crew or ally with him would go to war against Whitebeard, which would include Luffy and the Straw Hats among many other pirate crews; the other 3 of the 4 emperors would also refuse, as would Blackbeard. Luffy and the Straw Hats would have to make strange alliances with people like Big Mom and Kaido to take down Whitebeard and free the world from Whitebeard's rule. Luffy would eventually find out about Dio from his brother Ace telling him what Pucci told Whitebeard, and Luffy and the other renegade pirates who oppose Whitebeard would resurrect Dio. Dio would go on to be the captain of the Stand User Pirates, allied with the Straw Hat Pirates, Big Mom Pirates, Animal Kingdom Pirates, and so on against the Whitebeard Pirates and the Revolutionary Army for control of a world that no longer has Marines or a World Government.
Then Pucci would finally come to his senses as a government official from Florida, and report everything that had happened to the Florida state government. The governor of Florida would receive a report about all of what happened, point to it as a success story, run for president, and win. However, he would be assassinated shortly after taking office by his own vice president... Dio, who he foolishly picked as a running mate. President Dio would declare all the pirates to be terrorists and order them to be hunted down by the U.S. government, which would now be run by Stand users and vampires. But then Ultimate Kars would return from outer space and use his vampire-devouring powers to devour President Dio, as the last and most powerful of the Pillar Men. Luffy would show up and use his Gear 5 form and do the biggest punch ever to launch Ultimate Kars back into outer space, and Whitebeard would step down from being king of the pirates and hand the title down to Luffy for this heroism. Then everyone would have a big party singing Bink's Brew, prior to Laboon showing up, bigger than ever, and devouring everyone in one huge gulp, leaving no survivors. The end.
Uh. That was.. one hell of a few paragraphs. good job.
These Videos are so god damn random, i love it
I wonder who would have an easier time stopping the heaven plan Risotto or Diavolo Risotto has more experience going out and assassinating while Diavolo has the more powerful stand. If humans have iron and Risotto can manipulate it can he just move the stand user that would cause him trouble kinda like blood bending?
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What if there was Weather Report there and Whitebeard became a snail?
white snake's abilities aren't really random: they all fit into a stand/soul category
I don't think Whitebeard would fall to Yoyo Ma. He's been around the block and i'm pretty sure he can tell when someone is being genuine. Pretty sure he'll just take the chance go stop his head the moment he goes to boot lick.
Whitebeard wouldn’t know any of the characters that bohemian rhapsody brings to life so he wouldn’t be affected
chewiedog becoming a one piece youtuber?!?
Lets gooo, now he talko about my top 2 anime
hes going to kill the entire prison
You forgot 🐌
You should make a video about "All One Piece characters vs All stands"
I mean Whitebeard could absolutely annihilate Pucci, but I’m assuming his has to find out what Pucci plan is before just punching some random priest to death
in which case he wouldn't even be a threat unless Pucci killed one of his sons to get Jotaros disc
One piece meat riders think whitebeard is walking away for getting hit at infinite speed
@@Shushfrrn no one said that. Whitebeard is powerful, but no one’s surviving getting cut in half by made in heaven when it gets its speed going. What I was saying was Pucci with white snake and even c moon won’t be able to defend against the power of Whitebeard. He’d blow right through all Puccis stands strength and they wouldn’t have the stopping power to stop him before Whitebeard one taps Pucci. And of course is made in heaven starts it’s speed Whitebeard won’t be able to touch him, unless the massive range and power of his devil fruit distrusts or even kills Pucci as he’s running around
@@ShushfrrnJojo brainlets forgetting that MiH accelerates gradually
I can't imagine how funny it would be to see the giant 6.6 meter Whitebeard in that small ass prison
Whitebeard would struggle hard. He isn´t a Stand user so he could only attack the User not the stand. That would give pucci a huge advantage. Pucci could just take whitebeards memory disk without him noticing (because again he cant see or touch stands) and thats that. But I don´t know all of whitebeards strenght´s or what his armors strenght is so yeah. i thing the stand users have a good chance.
Firstly observation haki might bypass the seeing part and as far as we know his fruit doesn't have a range limit correct me if I'm wrong I haven't seen one piece in years but I'm pretty sure he can attack from the other side of the world and if he is determined enough that mean pucci dies no matter where he is in fact he might even be able to beat made in heaven as future sight
If armament haki can hit logias and hollow hollow fruit ghosts its not a stretch to say it could hit stands and observation haki can see life force which is what stands are made of
@@awsomno White beard is said to be able to destroy the one piece world, which is many times bigger than ours, he could easily destroy the Earth
And this is while dying and hooked up to life support machines for the whole time
@@RennHans Disc Stealing is a win con and Whitesnake is significantly faster than Whitebeard. His haki future-sight would only delay the inevitable.
@@awsomno The reason why Made In Heaven is so strong is because its speed affects its striking power. If you read the manga or watched the anime, Anasui specifically says "Its destructive power is average at best" and The fact that Jotaro has tanked deadlier attacks (High DIO, Killer Queen's explosives etc) it wouldn't really make any sort of sense that MIH wouldn't be able to eventually get fast enough to be able to kill Whitebeard.
4:31 no, if he dies, you die. it's not like he akes 1000 damage so you take 1000 damage. im pretty sure the damage is proportionate
I think you forgetting about conquer haki a lot of the stands like the plane crush and the debt collector can be stopped by simply activating the haki as the user it self is in range and weak minded whitebeard conq haki is one of the strongest and could knock out
most people
Edit:also whitebeard knows a different kind of haki that hits before his actual weapon or fist hit we learn about it in wano so more possibilities that he beats puchi
Old whitebeard doesn't have color of supreme king
@@DokiaDonDonhis clash with luffy proved otherwise
@@Cooldude909-ng2on when did they clash💀
Your plan worked perfectly. I don't even like One Piece or JoJo and here I am.
Also, the 8:14 part made me spit out my water, that was too perfect
Can he get much higher than made in haven?! I doubt
Yea, but if Pucci pulls off MIH its wraps, WB isnt fast enough to stop MIH, tgough he does probably one shot it
Giving Edward the info that pucci is the bad guy is just too easy. If he starts with the same condition with jolyne, without any info about Pucci he'll probably just be killed without getting a chance of using his powers. And since he is a nice guy I doubt he'll use his powers strongly enough to hurt people around him, so even if he tries to escape, Jail house lock will stop him.
The reason he acted so smart in the war was because he knew the opponent. Here he have no idea about stands, stand users, how they work, or whatsoever.
And since he can't hurt stands or even touch and see them anyways..
I mean, if he use the conqueror haki directly to the stand user? Maybe he'll have a chance to win an opponent instantly. But he's just not a type of guy who use conquerer haki to anyone he meets, and he probably won't use it to opponents that just seem like helpless weak people.
Another thing I want to say is the survivor. If he get affected by that stand he'll probably massacre countless innocent civilians and workers, which will probably damage him mentally...Alot.
JoJo universe is not really so great for a person who knows nothing about stands.
And if pucci just had the memory disc of jotaro he will just go straight foward for the c-moon, proabably causing the green baby to awake. This can kill Edward because he won't hurt a baby, but his body will be turned into plant in an instant. And if he stress the baby and be attacked by the green green grass of home? Hmm...he stands absolutely no chance.
Looking at the shit white beard survived at marineford, as soon as one organ is gone, bro would obliterate marilyn manson, and walk off the organ damage
Considering he has advanced observation haki, he might even be able to beat made in heaven by one tapping it before the acceleration gets too far out of hand. With his insane strength and AOE from quake moves he low diffs all of stone ocean
no, just No
Future sight doesn't help when fighting someone who's speed is categorized as infinite.
@@jozillaarevalo1747 MIH does not has infinite speed, MIH is just, REALLY fast, not infinite in speed.
@@jozillaarevalo1747 he can kill pucci before he accelerate to infinite speed did you forgot that he slowly accelerate his speed and the world so if whitebeard created a shockwave that is directed to pucci that shockwave will travel so fast that it will kill pucci
@@Hazel564well canonically the birth of made in heaven create large light source then acceleration just happened immediately even a few second of time acceleration which make them lost to pucci before the acceleration getting faster and faster
And even a acceleration has started WB still have problem dealing with pucci since pucci already dodge star platinum punch when the acceleration wasn't that fast mean pucci already goes much faster than light speed since part 6 star platinum is state to be faster than light
I like the idea that Gwes tries shrinking him only for him to become some regular 6 foot dude
Cant pucci just like steal his devil fruit power? With white snake
nope even if tho what will it change? Whitebeard is a monster
Taking his memories is more sure to work
Whitebeard is far superior in strength
But white snake is all about manipulation and ambushes
@@Kyonari yea but like what is he gonna do with made in heaven? Without df
I think you don't understand something, Devil fruits are part of the Body unlike Stands which are more like souls, Haki is a spiritual energy meaning it could damage and find Made in heaven besides that just hit Pucci that will solve all problems @@smireniwaifu
@@KyonariI disagree with the part of Haki detecting stands
Even paranormal entities and ghosts can see or feel the presence stands
But ye whitebeard one shots if he lands a hit
Whitebeard was able to react to Ace attacks while sleeping because of his observation haki, so he probably would Counter white snake's acid with observation haki too
0:12 worked on me
0:23 On a different day, you could've hidden it from me, but I literally just introduced my friend to HuniePop, so the soundtrack is now always in my radar. You really thought you could get away with putting the Nutmeg Cafe theme in a video? Hah!
16:30 and across the whole video I think you forgot that a stand is also an invisible force that Whitebeard CANNOT SEE. He wouldn't know when to even activate his haki. Even if he did, there is no reason haki would deflect the ability as haki is essentially the person's spirit given form. You know what else is spirit given form? Stands. And stands get affected by other stands multiple times in the series. Its likely either the haki would deform and crush Whitebeard, or his body would deform within the haki but be stopped by the haki layer resulting in his organs being crushed. All in all I doubt Whitebeard would even catch on to Pucci's schemes at all due to literally not being able to see what he is fighting.
Alright, let's debunk your points one by one. First off, Whitebeard has observation haki, which can activate without the user's active input in reaction to threats, even if he himself can't see stands. Second of all, stands and haki are different things. They both come from the same source, willpower, but that's like saying milk and wool are the same thing because they both come from a sheep, so while Armament Haki doesn't guarantee an immunity to a stand's ability, there's also no evidence that the haki would deform or crush Whitebeard, that's bullshit. Also, at the end of the day, all Whitebeard has to do is fucking wreak havoc upon the world with one of his scale 20 earthquakes and call it a day. Being really fast doesn't matter if the shockwaves go everywhere.
@@M4x_P0w3r First off, there is no reason that observation haki would be able to sense stands in any way shape or form. If you say that it can, then that implies that haki is linked to stands in a way that makes you're second point useless, proving that they aren't just 'different', which proves my point. Chewie dog straight up just said 'it wouldn't work' so I said keyword 'likely' that the stand would be able to bypass it, so it was actually me just disproving that you can't objectively say that 'it wouldn't work'. Finally this story he created isn't him getting told 'kill Pucci' he is replacing Jolyne, so why would he want to wreak havoc in any way, he has no reason to. My point is, Whitebeard would be dead before he even realised it, all Pucci has to do is either avoid him until MIH/CMOON and punch/speed blitz him or just try to kill him with Whitesnake. I'd also like to see whitebeard beat someone as smart as Pucci when he is hiding, as Whitebeard can't attack stands either so literally can't damage him. I really don't think he's the kind of guy to get hit a few times and decide to just destroy the whole prison aswell.
@@diamondscar5818 Observation haki detects danger around him and the ill intent from the user, which is the one that controls the stand. If say Jotaro was about to hit him with Star Platinum, Whitebeard would see himself being hit by an invisible force and therefore would know something is up. Therefore, that whole part of your comment is pointless.
If Pucci tries to kill him with Whitesnake, Whitebeard kills him way faster. If Pucci is in his CMOON phase, Whitebeard can still counterattack the gravitational pulls thanks to his shockwaves, which are more than strong enough to counteract the altered gravity. His surface inversion would work much slower, if at all, on Whitebeard considering his immense might and durability. Honestly, his best bet is to try and rapidly age Whitebeard, considering his advanced age and health problems. And if it's MIH we are talking about, guess what? The shockwaves of his attacks are accelerated as well.
Whitebeard didn't precisely get to lead an armada of 1.6 thousand crew members and dozens of territories and organize an assault on the marine headquarters by being stupid.
Overall, what you don't seem to get is that the Quake fruit gives Whitebeard immense range of attack. It doesn't really matter that he can't touch Pucci's given stand at any time, because wherever his stand is, Pucci must be as well. And if Pucci goes down, so does his stand. And let me tell you that a single attack from Whitebeard is enough to obliterate Pucci 500 times over.
@@M4x_P0w3r Observation Haki detects ill intent from the user. But only if in range. You also said Whitebeard would ‘see himself getting hit’ nice try but that’s future sight which Whitebeard did not have. If Pucci is hidden (keep in mind whitesnake is a medium range pilot stand, and so is cmoon) perhaps Whitebeard would sense intent, but it might not work if Pucci wasn’t actually there, and even if it did, what would he do? Non stand users cannot attack stands. Your whole ‘if whitesnake is there so is Pucci’ is sort of random because like I said he distances himself from the stand. Keep in mind he isn’t going to think ‘I know the stand user must be nearby’ because he doesn’t even know how they work yet. Also due to the fact that Whitebeard replaces Jolyne in this scenario, I have said before he isn’t going to just destroy the whole prison just to kill Pucci when he doesn’t even know he wants to kill him yet. You are forgetting that this is all based upon him actually finding out about the plan without seeing stands.
About Whitebeard reversing the gravity with shockwaves. That is the silliest thing I have ever heard. What is he gonna do? Punch himself? He’ll do even more damage than Cmoon! Not to mention while Cmoon uses gravity, it’s not ‘just gravity’ gravity doesn’t have the force to turn someone inside out, the stand is much stronger than you think. Finally in MIH Pucci would probably just kill Whitebeard before he could even use a shockwave considering how long it would take to actually use one (I mean to activate one), or he could just wait out Universe reset and kill baby Whitebeard. You need to remember the only reason Pucci was super mega careful and had a long battle when he had MIH was because he was just terrified of Jotaro. Whitebeard isn’t as fast, and cannot stop time. Pucci wouldn’t hesitate for a second.
@@diamondscar5818 Only if in range, true. Last I've seen, Whitesnake has about a 20 meter range, C-Moon has a 3km range but only on its gravitational shift effect and Made in Heaven is also a close range stand. The only way Pucci is safe from it is if he hides and activates the gravity fuckery of CMoon, meaning he cant use his far more deadly abilities on him.
"If whitesnake is there so is Pucci" I mean that if Whitesnake is there, Pucci has to be in the immediate area around it, so he's not safe. And you haven't really explained why Whitebeard wouldn't destroy the jail. Jolyne doesn't because she can't, but Whitebeard not only can, but he's an infamous pirate that isn't afraid of collateral damage. If he thinks the prison going down is necessary, he'll fart and the entire prison and everyone inside is reduced to rubble.
Okay, maybe this part is me explaining myself poorly. No, Whitebeard can't reverse gravity with his shockwaves,, that is indeed silly. What he can is counteract the effect of the gravity with his shockwaves. Third law of newton in action, think basically geppo but on a larger scale (no, I'm not saying Whitebeard can use geppo, but theoretically he can replicate its effects with the push force of his shockwaves).
"In MIH Pucci would probably kill Whitebeard before he could even use a shockwave" Okay, how? He sure as hell won't be killing Whitebeard by throwing a few knives like he did with Jotaro and Jolyne, and Whitebeard is still fast as fuck. He'd be able to tank basically anything Pucci can throw at him and retaliate with a sped up earthquake of his. And if he waits for the universe to be reset, then he won't be able to just kill baby Whitebeard. Anyone who survives the time acceleration is brought into the new world and positioned exactly where they should be according to fate. Therefore, Pucci would need to fight Whitebeard as he is at the time he was at the prison, and not before. If he could do what you suggest, don't you think he would have done so with Emporio?
Yeah, Pucci was so careful with Jotaro because of his time stop. Now think how terrified he would be of a giant of a man that has strength beyond that of 100 Jotaros, can tank basically anything you throw at him, can perceive intentions and attacks before they are dealt, knock people unconscious by just willing it and that can wreck havoc on his surroundings. Time stop or not, Whitebeard is a far more deadly opponent than Jotaro is.
Bro could one shot pucci and the entire prison and everything around as long as pucci hasn’t gotten to c-moon
as if he can interact with stands
We assume that armament haki allows him to do that
I rather think its Observation Haki@@solaireofcatarina44
i mean whats stopping whitebeard from destroying the entire prison with pucci inside
nothing@@Hazel564
So if we're going by this new rule that Whitebeard can now see and damage stands without being a stand user, I think Whitesnake might've had a chance if he took Whitebeard's Memory while he's sleeping. Pucci made Domenico almost completely nonthreatening from stealing his memory, so Whitebeard may be the same case. As for C-Moon, Pucci could just stand on the floor since everything in a 2 mile radius gets flipped in the opposite direction via gravity, sure it won't send him to space, but it would a big hinderance, enough at least to stall for Made in Heaven
Whitebeard unironically just destroys everything in a 3 mile radius and oneshots Pucci 😂
Whitebeard doesn't have a stand so he cant see stands
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Observation haki can see life force which is what stands are made of and i’d say There’s about a 60% chance that armament haki can touch them
Nuh uh@@RennHans
Whitebeard can’t see them 💀
10:58 WHITE STRENGTH IS INASNE LMAO
is everyone forgetting whitebeard cant see stands
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White Beard having his memory disk removed realizing he just got one shot by a move he knew nothing about:
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Best way to defeat pucchi just distroy the whole prison with a tsunami