There's way too many factors to consider to have an answer tbh. How far away do the lions start? If they're close from the beginning, it's an easy w for the lions.
@@mhead1117 There is a zero percent chance of the lions winning. Again, C-Moon can turn gravity itself upside down. The lions are dying. Then there’s GER which cannot be harmed at all except by reality manipulation which I don’t think lions have. There wouldn’t even be enough space for 1 billion lions to take on all the stands at once even at their most effective. They’d be piling onto each other trying that and hurting themselves.
I think it would be hilarious to think of Kira Yoshikage, last on the field, and as the lions slowly circle him he tells one lion everything about him. The lion doesn't understand but then bites the dust activates, now that lion is even more confused because the battle just restarted.
@@kilzfordays they all are confused then kira says Killer Queen: Bites Za Dusto and then they are even more confused because they all are at the start of the battle and some of them start randomly exploding 💀
Judging by the looks of the stand, it would be as, if not a little more, dumb than okuyasu, the blinds on his eyes for example, it means his ahh doesnt even have a good spatial awaraness, noob fr.
@@akamegaedits ur the one coping no amount of lions beats the sun or some one who can invert gravity/pause time or heat up their surrounding or change demension a etc
You literally forgot about the most powerful stand? Hermit purple could simply smash a camera and maybe figure out where the lions might be AT ANY TIME
@@williammatkins6348 Guys.. the joke is really simple. They're saying that Hermit Purples greatest strength is the fact you can figure out where the lions are at any time by smashing a camera... but it's 1 billion lions.. we can already see where all the lions are.
@@Xman34washere The Hand is probably going to take out more than 3. Plus it could just fly away by erasing the space in front of it if it needed to escape. The Hand is fucking busted and the lions would stand no chance.
I feel like removing the stand user is a buff for the stands. Besides some of them needing stands, you remove a fatal weakness for the stand: if the user dies, the stand goes with them, minus cases like B.I.G and limp. I think users should be included
I'm assuming the arguement is based off of stands dying after receiving injuries that would kill their users, I feel like it'd be unnecessary to include stand users to the discussion for stands that don't need a user, do you really think the lions can deal with vampire laser eyes?
Honestly, pretty much any stand that can only be defeated by specific stands have an inherent advantage. Jumping jack flash would wipe the floor with 1 million lions.
why the fuck is he right???! like that stand can make 100% oxygen, like come on! 100% oxygene is UNBREATHABLE, he is killing all the lions without breaking a sweat. WEATHER REPORT SOLO
@Freedfg that is true. It's shown Jumping Jack Flash is one of those stands Weather Report is nearly completely useless against, once JJF's ability activates. I don't think Jumping Jack Flash would win against even a thousand Lions. It's gravity pull range is limited. When it's filled with Lions, the rest not affected can just attack the stand. It didn't really show any combat abilities to defend against a single lion.
Imagine weather report or any stand really that can make a huge block of ice and then have thankful death do it’s thing like that one person that almost got the tape from mista
2:56 Just one quick thing that I'm sure others have pointed out, the Grateful Dead doesnt affect other stands. Sex pistols seemed to be completely unaffeccted by the stand ability; the only problem was that the stand user (Mistah) was dying from it
Technically stands don't age, so the reason they'll be affected by the Grateful Dead is because the user will grow old and become weaker. Since stand is bound to the user's spiritual energy, they generally weakens as their users age. So without the user, the stand should be unaffected.
Having both Green Day and C-Moon on the battle field would make for a deadly combo, having C-Moon affect the gravitational pull and having the lions sent flying backward, while Green Days ability takes effect and consumes their flesh with mold!
But it's also shown the gravity can somewhat be countered. It's just shifting sideways. Depending upon the terrain, the Lions can simply climb over one another or the terrain itself to get to C-Moon. It's a Billion Lions.
@Dominic Stocks that's a good point. Still, with millions upon millions of Lions, I can them literally make a pile the size of mount everest to get to C-moon 🤣
You forgot that Justice could also possess the dead bodies of the lions, meaning that killing a lion would give not 1 but 2 zombie lions fighting for the stands
Deadly combos nobody really thinks about: Grateful Dead + The Sun. Grateful Dead ages you faster the hotter you are and The Sun is, well, the sun. Probably will take less than 10 seconds of being exposed to the two of them for anything to age to dust.
Underrated combo: Weather Report and Survivor Survivor makes anything it affects go ballistic and fight at the slightest provocation, and spreads via an electrical current, you can see where this is going Make it rain, unleash Survivor, and watch
The funny thing is: Survivor would be one of the most deadly stands to the lions. It’s ability (if it can affect non humans) would cause the Lions to fight each other (optimistic)
Another would be Justice, the Fog Stand. All it would take would be one scratch or even a corpse. And it can control the lions. They'd have: a Undead invisible lion Army from Limp Bizcuit, Lion turned Dinosaurs Army from Scary Monsters, Angry Lions attacking eachother from Survivor, and Lions controlled by Justice.
Something he forgot to mention is that by removing the users he's also removed stand range. That means that anything like Star Platinum is no longer limited to a few meters, and can just rush through swaths of lions without having to worry about any limitations to range since they can easily close the distance
@@grahamrange7092 Star platinum on its own wouldn't be able to take out the billion lions. It could probably take on a few hundred, maybe a thousand or two if we're being generous because it is quite strong, but yeah not really that valuable here.
I got it, Enya’s Justice stand can control things after piercing them, allowing her to puppet their corpses, she can also control multiple things at once. So even more zombie lion army.
Yeah, then get hanged man on there to get those wounds. And Silver Chariot+ Anubis who are super fast. Or maybe give Anubis to The World. Hermit purple is full of thorns, so add that as well. Plus any other stand that can pierce like Geb, Hierophant Green and Metallica. Also it would finish the lions Cream didn't OHKO
Not including the stand user is a HUGE advantage for the stands. A lot of stands are impossible to kill without the weakness of a vulnerable user. Also it doesn't make sense not to include the user because most stands doesn't have a mind of its own.
i take it like this: the stand will act as if it’s being controlled by a user, but the user is just in the stand. The stand will walk like a human (if it can) and if you wanna go the extra mile, you could say that the stand has the endurance/stamina of the user.
Don’t forget yellow temperance. It’s a stand that absorbs organic matter, can manifest spikes, and is seemingly immune to physical damage. As the user said, it has no weaknesses.
that was taken from purple haze feedback, an off shoot written by araki talking about what he did after he left. his virus also grows so strong it can kill itself lol
just want to put in that the only limitation of The World's timestop is the user's ability to sustain it. So if it were detached from its user and simply allowed to roam free, it should theoretically be able to stop time forever and kill all the lions that way.
@@Gaut420 its not draining. Timestop is dependent on your oxygen or something along the lines. Its stated somewhere somewhere in show. Its also why the world has an oxygen tank on its back
@@dragonsmoke16418DIO doesn’t need oxygen to survive so if this were the case he would be able to stop time indefinitely. It’s never stated that timestop is dependent upon oxygen. I highly doubt Jotaro can only hold his breath for 2 seconds. The oxygen tanks are likely either just a design choice, or a reference to one of Ronnie James Dio’s most popular songs, “Holy Diver”.
It would be limited by how long you could hold your breath unless you’re DIO who has oxygen tanks in which case he’d be limited by that plus how long he could hold his breath. However, this doesn’t mean that timestop is dependent on oxygen alone, but also how much they have “trained” their timestop, as Jotaro at first was able to stop time for 5 seconds but doesn’t use it for quite a while until part 4 at which point it has decreased to half a second until the end of part 4 where he trains it to 1-2 seconds. After this, he trains it to 5-6 seconds for part 6 as he was worried about not being strong enough to protect people like he was in part 4. Tl:dr: timestop dependent on both how much you have trained it and how long you can hold your breath (I guess)
Yeah cheap trick def solos. The lions would have no choice but to "surrender" (cheap trick is probably one of my favorite stands just because of how stupid it is)
I feel like white album would be really good as it’s user can skate around while loads of lions get frozen tbh it would basically be a better cream because it can see where it is going
A small thing about Grateful Dead. The aging is only shown to affect the people, not the stands themselves. We see Sticky Fingers and Sex Pistols acting just fine despite their users almost being dead at that time. Stands cant be affected by the aging, and since you clarified that it is just the stands there, stands like Grateful Dead, Purple Haze, or Ozon Baby reasonably wouldn't be able to affect any other stands besides the stands that require users, such as Love Deluxe or Emperor.
Additionally, I do wonder how a Stand like The Sun would interact with Weather Report and if they would unintentionally counteract each other. But speaking on it, how could the lions ever deal with The Sun? They would all die of heatstroke before the fight even got serious.
about grateful dead and aging, we do see in part 3 that when Polnareff get younger because of sethan's ability, silver chariot also get weaker. Would that mean that stand age in a way as well ? although it's true that this doesn't seem to happen in the greatful dead's fight
@@xeskenn18 that's not necessarily what happens in the Sethan fight. It was established earlier that Polnareff was born a Stand user, much like Avdol. So when he is reverted back to an 8 year old, his stand reverts back to how powerful his fighting spirit was when he was 8 (which obviously wasn't that much). His stand didn't become younger, his will just became smaller as a result of his de-aging. This is the same reason why Jotaro couldn't use his stand when he became younger. Star Platinum had been dormant until the events of part 3, and so it became dormant again when Jotaro reverted in age. But even if stands could become younger, this still wouldn't technically apply to Grateful Dead because they are completely separate stands that have different rules for how their power works. It's like the old comparison between Hanged Man and Man in the Mirror. They both operate using reflections but the rules they have are completely different, as J Geil has to travel between reflections as a beam of light while Illuso can use his own "mirror world". Stands all have their own rule sets, and what a Stand can do with a power may not necessarily be the same as what another could do with a similar power.
Weather Report and Catch the Rainbow is a great combo but you also need to remember that after a while the ground is going to be all wet, meaning that survivors will become a broken stand that can make as many lions as it wants turn on each other in aggression.
@@Minious1020 That depends if stands are alive by nature or just entities, living things can be affected but if stands are just representations of someones soul that might mean that they arnt affected.
And I think this only just scratches the surface of how favored the stands are. For another win by technicality, you got 20th Century Boy and Magenta Magenta just lives forever, probably surrounded by rotting lion corpses, but still technically a win. And for a crazy synergy, we got Blue Hawaii from part 8, that makes any human or animal seek onto a target in and attack, essentially. So long as the victim has touched something the user has linked to, so let's say one of Joshu's teeth and kinda just, throw it into the lion mob. Then the lions, not understanding strategy or patterns, will simply attack the traitorous lion. This will likely give the lion who killed the mind controlled lion some feeling of guilt, and that's where Civil War comes in. This will basically animate what they feel guilt about, creating a SECOND ARMY OF LIONS. Theoretically, this could end with around 2 billion lions. This could also work with Survivor instead of Blue Hawaii, but then the stands would probably fight and result in a Notorious BIG only win, which is lame. Lastly, I know we barred off non canonical stands, but how do we feel about NYPD Blue from Jorge Joestar? What's the stand do? Be a cop. Just one singular fat middle aged cop. That's it. Is that too overpowered or..?
We haven't even touched the possibility of a Made in Heavan, D4C Love Train and Wonder of U sweep. There's also C-Moon who can blow them away, Brainstorm, another virus stand, base D4C who can bring more friends and insta-kill lions.
Imagine how busted weather report and hanged man combos would be. Like it’s probably not the most efficient killer, but has a crazy busted range and ability to never be killed itself unless a lion gets a lucky shot on a random raindrop at the perfect time.
@@xleplayVA how would get attack it without hurting itself? Tusk act 4 and love train would be interesting, but I can't see wou killing big. How would it damage him? I mean sure big wouldn't be able to get to Giorno or tooru but they wouldn't be able to kill it either so it's kinda a stalemate until they give up or die of old age.
Wonder of U would decimate the lions cause when they try and go after it they would succumb to calamity. Theoretically, this could probably solo the lions since they would not even be able to approach Wonder of U close enough to cause damage.
@@lord-of-flys there’s no real evidence showing the speed at which WOU can switch and cause calamity to targets, assuming it does have an order of who to kill. So no real way to say whether WOU flops or trucks.
@@cringeslayer3892also, something i forgot to mention is If wonder of U has no user/the user died, then it roams around freely and causes calamity all over the place. So it technically works since there are no users here.
People very often forget that The World has endless time stop potential. The reason Dio didnt was because he was still getting use to the power. And even he said that he eventually would have been able to stop time forever. So with this being said, I think the conclusion is obvious
It has the capability of doing so because DIO has more life force than an average human. Jotaro at his peak physical form was able to do 5 seconds. DIO, as a vampire, was able to extend this time even further by absorbing humans and especially those descended from Jonathan. He also never ages so his time won't decrease. This gives the question, would a DIOless The World have infinite time like DIO **could** or just have the time stop time of a regular person. The same goes for star platinum. Are they the only stands affected by life force? Can being a vampire make other stands more powerful?
@@anoon-also tbf to the stands, jotaros peak time stop efficiency was not very peak right? as far as i'm aware he never really trained it and specifically got very rusty between parts 3 and 4
I would've thought Survivor would be the ultimate MVP. Instead of creating an exponentially growing army, it just makes everyone go into a free-for-all.
@@fern_lightvale Dio explains it himself . its weakest cuz you cant control it or choose the victim. so its useless to dio. he says its a strong stand but its the most useless to him.
Other than this video being very good, this brings me to the most important question of all: how can someone actually think 1 billion lions could beat all Pokémon? I feel like anybody who actually think the lions could win have never played, read or watched any form of Pokémon media.
Ok, but have you considered, 1 billion lions...is a lotta lions. I don't care if you have Arceus and its thousand fucking hands that's a BILLION lions, imagine thinking Necrozma with its dumbass laser beams or Yveltal's kill everything cocoon could KILL 1 BILLION lions. You're insane if you think 1 BILLION lions could be beaten.
@@PEARLSTOTHEPLAYERS Counter argument: Metapod uses the move harden so many times that it becomes invincible resulting in the lions pissing off because they become bored af.
@@PEARLSTOTHEPLAYERS the issue with 1 billion lions is that they can only come from so many places. Say for example the pokemon just manipulate the battlefield a little, for example they create an earthquake tearing down a massive hole in the battlefield lions just fall in, stand on the side of the hole and get blasted by ranged abilities or leave (the only possible way the might win), pokemon can also fly and most importantly have range which allows them to defend in a way more organized manner (this ofc depends on what kind of intelligence we allow the pokemons to have but as far as I remember at least the legendary pokemon were pretty intelligent to the point they could probably command the rest. So with the ability to strategise all we need to do is arrange the pokemon in a formation where they just blast everything that tries to approach from range, using attacks with AoE, poison attacks, fire attacks etc. might also cause environmental damage making the approach impossible. Most importantly, pokemon have been seen surviving absolutely ridiculous things while lions are just actual animals, even a lot of first form pokemons could probably cause a lot of damage here since pokemons just have been shown to be far more durable and capable of stupid destructive power. There is of course the issue with lion after lion just charging them, especially if the pokemon are surrounded that they eventually run out of energy and lose that way but if we take into consideration the ability to manipulate the battlefield even that is fixed.
True mvp is Bohemian Rhapsody. Man literally can create a character that specifically is able to erase 1b lions in one blink and then fly to a moon or smth. This is truly best stand out there to win this fight
Do Lions have a concept of fictional characters? Is Mufasa just gonna show up and all the lions just get killed by a stampede after being betrayed by their brothers? "That's how the story goes!" After all
My first thought on reading this is that the 1b lions are also fiction, and thus bohemian rapsody would bring them to life. Actually thinking about it bohemian rapsody also brought to life images and paintings, so my next thought is if combined with boingos toth you have an infinitely replicating army, as its images of the future would come to life, replicating all the stands and lions again.
Weather Report not only enables Catch the Rainbow, but it also enables Hanged Man, giving you an invincible one shot machine flying around the battlefield at lightspeed cutting all their legs off before they can even move.
There's another stand in Part 5 that would also help and that is Chariot Requiem If you count making the lions evolve into other creatures as a kill ofc Besides, if the body swap is used, then the already existing stands in the battlefield are going to be buffed
@@winningsmile1843 I mean, it wouldn't really, because they don't have users in the this situation.and even if it make every stand bond with a lion, any lion that tries to attack SCR will just have it's new stand turned against them. So overall easy dub for stands
A lot of stands, especially ones from later parts are just perfectly suited for killing 1 billion lions. I Am A Rock could be combined with Cream to essentially create an endless Absorber of Lions. All it takes is Man in The Mirror to ensure every stand’s (and stand user’s) safety in the case that something risky for both sides like Grateful Dead is used.
Yeah but a combination of stands can make sure that no stands even take damage (including ones like Thoth), assuming the time stop cooldown is 2x the time stopped, Star Platinum, The World (only freezing for 5 instead of its max), and The World (AU) can create a permafreeze and chip away at the lions, and throw in stands immune to Time Stop, like Tusk Act 4, C-Moon and the whole thing would be over without a real second passing
@@rdavila8964 Yeah but it's 1 billion lions semi spread out, I'm not doubting it's force but its not gonna be insta win, also I'm not sure I would include it as the requiem arrow doesn't belong to SC anymore
I just realized The grateful dead and The sun together are literally unstoppable. The sun makes everything warmer to the point that aging is instant and they would dehydrate VERY fast. also Both have a large AOE radius
I think Soft and Wet should also count as an MVP not for how many loins he kills but for how many stand he saves. Think about it just have Soft and Wet remove the aging of all the other stands or the ability to get sick or any other thing that might cause friendly fire and boom the stands are doing a lot better then they where doing before.
I also feel that C-Moon and Made in Heaven would be MvP's. C-Moon with the ability to manipulate gravity. And Made in Heaven being so fast it''ll slice through the lions easily
It's hilarious the number of stands that can basically solo the lions, but would kill all the other stands. Also I don't know if the vid says it, I am most of the way through, but the sun could pretty much solo
My one thought going through all of this was one stand being able to take them all on singlehandedly by practically juzt walking. Wonder of U. Heck, he diesn't even need to walk. All he needs is for the lions to approach him then kablammo, they're kapoot. Combine that with Weather Report's raining, even the simplest of rains, and we got bullets coming form the sky.
yah i was going to say that as well i mean rain turns into bullet i am sure he could turn coffe into acid and well YEAH WONDER OF U ALONE CAN SOLO 98% of jojo
@@user-bt7zh9tz4t the calamity get stronger the closer they get yo wou So it is impossible for lion lol Also the calamity affect everything trying to pursue him not 1 thing per time
not to mention, some stands have abillities that can combo off eachother for exampel: A silver charriot holding an anubis with armor release has shown to not only become faster and more stronger, but combined with silver charriot's after images, it can shred through lions like a living blender Imagine Kiss not only duplicating the projectiles of stands that use projectiles, but also imagine kiss duplicating anubis and now silver charrtiot is basically a blur that can match made in heaven's speed stands like emporer could be held by other stands, so emporer could be held by tusk act 4, and sex pistols could team up with tusk act 4 plus emporer, to bounce the projectiles of both emporer and tusk one last exampel, to add to the ever expanding army of sheer heart attacks, zombie lions, dinosuars, and zombie dinosuars we could add bad company and survivor, to add more to the army, so lions would be attcking eachother, while bad company wipe them out
Greatful dead and the sun, the sun gets the lion extremely hot and greatful dead ages them super fast tou also dont need just the sun like magicians red or weather report could do just as much damage
D4C with Scary Monster's could make an infinite army. Also Your Silver Chariot idea with Anubis could also work with Hang Man who could slice up be in the swords to slice up all the lions the side of the sword faces.
You could probably counter the downside of Grateful Dead with Ghiaccio's stand (I forgor the name), but you'd have to be careful not to get the lions in his range as well or it would negate Grateful Dead entirely
There’s also Pet Shop to help with that, and there’s a few stands that can heat up the lions to really speed things up, namely Magician’s Red and The Sun
now that i think about it why did they bring Pecci and not Ghiaccio to the train, he can just create a frozen barrier in the middle of the train protecting him and Procuiutto or also Pecci if they did bring him anyway Mista wouldn't be able to break it then Procuiutto can just touch him to age him before throwing him of the train. Also Ghiaccio's stand is called White Album
Yeah, white album + grateful dead is just plain a broken stand combo that proves that La Squadra had *way* more combo options than they used in Part 5. If they were all working together at any given time Giorno and Bucciarati would've stood no chance.
Keep in mind, there would be about 5,952,381 lions fighting EACH stand, if the lions were equally divided to each stand, a reminder of how powerful the stands are.
@@praaiseso is the power of the strongest stand in jojo: the sun Massive fireball with no user meaning it can’t be hurt Idk man I think the lions aren’t winning this one
I don’t think Cream has to worry that much about killing Stand Users as a battlefield to host 1 billion lions is so huge there are probably points in which he can catch a break for a peek if an ally is around.
So i just did the math, and if 1 lion was killed every 1 second, by say a single punch from star platinum or any other single target stand, it would take 31 years to take out all 1 billion lions
Because of d4clt I think stands win because the damage goes back to all the nearby lions unless they learn infinite rotation stand users are fine. Lol this got really popular!
So everyone gonna just stand in a straight line to stay inside of love train? Also I find it funny that love train doesn't even belong to Valentine as it's the corpses stand, so Lucy gotta just be hunched over in the corner
10:10 Actually, I think Notorious B.I.G. is just a normal remote controled stand. At the end of SHA4, Kira summons SHA, lops off his left hand and says: "Sheer Heart Attack, you're now free". SHA survived losing its origin, which means it's technically post mortal as well.
There's a huge error in the video that i need to point out, you completely got Ozone Baby wrong. At the Ozone Baby section in 04:03, you say that Ozone Baby will pressurize the air around it, and works slower in an enclosed area, but that is not correct. Ozone Baby's ability ONLY works on enclosed area, once activated, it pressurize the air within closed spaces only, not affecting open areas at all. The true deadly part of the ability is that once the closed spaces are pressured, opening them will cause a drastic decrease in air pressure, making anyone within (who are also pressured) suffer from decompression sickness and die. Meaning that anyone trapped within Ozone Baby's pressured spaces cannot escape because it's a near guaranteed instant end, making them having no choice but to stay in the closed space and suffer a slow death. So despite still being horrifying, it doesn't really work under this battle scenario since you stated it's open space, rendering the stand pretty useless. Unless stands like the Fool or Under World can make enclosed spaces for it to use the ability.
Doesn’t it only work if the lion wants to kill WOU? I’d think in a battlefield scenario, you’d see a random lion look at WOU, then start to melt, but the others are fine right?
@@Purple_Sloth yeah but considering wou as a stand can disguise even against other stand users to make it think its a human i doubt the lions would even realise its a stand and just think its a human or whatever its disguising and try to eat it so 1 lion wouldnt be the only problem there would be lots of lions just very inefficient since they wouldnt be focused on 1 human walking around doing nothing
@@toweroffrogs9470 I was thinking it was like a battlefield filled with lions, lion sees stand, lion wants to attack stand. If every lion was implemented with the idea of “I know every stand here and I want to kill all of them” then yeah WOU would be included and the ability would activate on all of them. But if it’s like some lions chilling on a battle field with their other 1 billion lion bros then they probably won’t attack until they see the stand is what I’m thinking.
I think you're underestimating the utility of The World and Star Platinum: The World. While they are mostly single-target stands, they both share the ability to stop time. Which means that, from a pitched battle deployment position, they can each be used to effectively instantly move any stand they need into position, extract stands that are in danger of getting overwhelmed, and provide support where needed basically without any time passing. Of course they're practically guaranteed to take out a few lions as well, but their best use would be support.
And still to this day those both still hold the title as the most strongest stands in physical strength, One platinum punch would kill a lion, Given it's light speed punches in stopped time, it can drop a lot of them. And if we're assuming the stands don't have a user they can stop time indefinitely. Since Jotaro couldn't stop time as long as Dio because his body/ heart couldn't handle it but Dio could because he was a vampire no user to suffer pain= infinite stop, BUT it would be better if they just let the other users deal with it
@@demonthesoule Hell, if you’re going faster than light (which is confirmed), time stop isn’t needed. Couldn’t star platinum or just extend his hand and ram the lions at light speed? If each lion had 20 square meters to themselves that would be 20 billion square meters for star platinum to cover, the speed of light can cover that area in around 66 or so seconds. Keep in mind star platinum is even faster than that and other FTL stands like The World or Made In Heaven exist to make the cleaning even faster. I’m pretty sure Chewiedog underestimated the raw speed of SP.
Your also forgetting about part 7 yhe world which can also stop time and technically part 4 part 3 and part 6 star platinum are different stands plus mandon and kc which is more time based stands effectively having full control of time
@@RallyLikesCheese Star Platinum is the same stand throughout the various series, just with slight differences in appearance to match Jotaro's wardrobe changes and Araki's change of artstyle over time. Part 7 The World is technically just an alternate timeline counterpart to Part 3 The World, and functions identically. King Crimson can't be used in this way as its ability only allows itself to skip through time. As for the other main time-based stand, Made In Heaven, despite having one of the most ridiculous abilities under normal circumstances it's actually completely useless in this battle. It could actually end up being a disadvantage since its ability would reduce the effectiveness of Star Platinum and The World.
@@VestedUTuber How would MiH reduce their effectiveness? Star Platinum was able to stop time while MiH was activated. If Pucci didn't have the knives Jotaro would've killed him.
Stands win on the principle of Cream. Being a vampire, he would never need to leave his dimension for sustenance or any other reason, as shown by DIO surviving in an underwater coffin for a century. He could easily go on a massive killstreak and take every lion slowly and methodically on his own. I also feel like Justice would do a fantastic job, as each lion kill shifts the numbers in their favor. No tangible form means Justice can’t be harmed by the lions, so it’s a perfect matchup. Limp Bizkit can actually be hurt, so I’d say it’s actually a little less effective in this regard. Same goes for the zombies. Also, cool idea, could Weather Report use lightning to charge up Red Hot Chili Pepper? If so, RHCP becomes effectively immortal, and incredibly powerful. It’s also a huge boost to Foo Fighters with a rainstorm.
Cream is less useful than you think. What happens when Cream pops out of his bubble, only to find he's flown himself underneath tons of water/dirt, and can't find his way back to the surface?
People sleep on Anubis so hard. Exponential growth is insane. For every kill, it becomes faster, more strategic and stronger. It could easily kill 4/5 lions in its base form, and after that it's GG and no lion can top it individually. Moreover, if you ever kill the user, it could take control of a lion and continue from where it left off
@@yuribumagnygoncalvessampai7560 I've done some cooking. Star Platinum is the ideal choice, not because of Time Stop, but because of his enhanced senses and reflexes. This combos very nicely with Survivor's Weakness Visualisation effect, and also Anubis' Selective Permeability and Technique Enhance. With this combo, you have a super strong, super fast stand that can see your weaknesses, target your weaknesses, and can attack past most forms of barrier or defense, meaning you can't protect those weaknesses. And thanks to both Survivor's and Anubis' scaling effects, this monster only becomes stronger the longer it fights.
@@dragonheart1236 and if you throw weather report into the mix, you can just put anyone into a blind rage, making them easier to be killed by anubis star platinum
Everybody seems to forget about justice Like, wth are a bunch of lions gonna do about a fog? A fog that puppets corpses, doubling the amount of zombie lions (and dinosaurs) they're up against, along with the living ones, should they get an ouchie
Purple haze? It's ability is litterly to spread a acid-like virus cloud One of my fav stands :) Edit: holy shit I was right.... time to buy scratch tikets
After seeing the part about the video stating the battle would be without the user, I immediately have come to the conclusion that many stands could most likely solo this, the ones that come to mind are the geb, sun, sethan, cream, and hanged man(which could out live the lions at minimum) only considering part 3 stands, not to say the other parts don’t have it better.
Limp Bizkit + Justice would mean every time a lion dies, you get both a ghost zombie AND an actual zombie, creating 2 new units to fight the lions every time one dies. Once the ball gets rolling, it's going to be a bloodbath.
Hell, Scary Monsters can solo considering every Lion that gets so much as a nick of blood becomes part of the Dino army, as well as Diego being able to dodge bullets rather easily. Common Diego W.
@@CJ0809 and causes an explosion big enough equivalent to the heat source so regardless with that logic even though I forgot about it , an explosion the size of a mini sun is probably still going to do some insane damage
You glossed over Catch the Rainbow but honestly with that + Weather Report, that combo could single-handedly body all of the lions. Like, seriously. The rain is now a field of razors that slice the lions to bits when they move. GG.
@Catmanic A) There's no stipulation that Catch the Rainbow can't use rain created by another stand's ability (because why would there be) and B) Weather Report can just create weather phenomena. So if it makes rain, it's rain.
I think cheap trick could play a very similar role as BIG, it’s even more amazing if the curse effects still active off a corpse plus lions would be attracted to eachother so it’s like an infective forever virus
Another stand that would be a MVP is Wonder of U since all it needs to activate is for someone to "pursue" it or it's user. Which it's version pursue is extremely vague, meaning if they looked at the stand or user or thought about killing him, then the ability of calamity would activate making just about anything deadly. Trip on a pebble? Your leg is gone. One of the lions accidentally bumped into one other? Suddenly a domino effect of lions squishing like they were made of jello.
@@lanyon2716 thank you; but I don't remember caring about what people were asking. I was adding onto the topic of the video. Next time try getting some bitches instead of starting an argument on a twelve day old comment.
Summoner Class: Limp Bizkit (For ghost summons) + Justice (For corpse summons) + Scary Monsters (Rawr) + Notorious B.I.G (For speed summon) + Golden Wind (Random summons) Slow Killer Class: Grateful Dead (Rapid age increase) + The Sun (More heat for GD) + Weather Report (More heat for GD) Ozone Baby (Dps damage) Danger Aoe Class: Purple Haze (Rapid virus infection) + Green Tea (Rapid mold infection) Killer Queen (Explosive damage) OP Aoe: C - Moon (Gravity Control) The Hand (Spatial Destruction) + Cream (Spatial Destruction) Weather Report / Heavy Weather (It's just Weather Report) Wonder Of U (Like Cmon!!!) Honourable Mentions: The Stand that DIO thought was useless
Imagine this, Horus + White Wlbum distributing ice while Grateful Dead ages the lions. Would take a while but with zoning stands like The Fool you could prolly make an impenetrable fortress to stock up, and since this will prolly take a while to end, Pearl Jam could be used on the lions along with The Sun to create lion Jerky that heals you.
White Album can freeze ocean so its quite op you can make tall castle of ice and let the genocide type stands do there work (yes Purple haze is extra op because you won't be going to be affected by virus and can throw bulbs out of castle weather reaport can rain frogs with full power and any other long range stand will work with full power)
Another use of the MVP Weather Report is creating a strong air current lifting every lion up in the air to a point where the drop would kill them and then just letting them fall which means possibly killing every lion in one stupidly broken attack
Also, just... a blizzard. Lions generally live places that don't turn quite that frozen, and Weather Report can just do that. He could also probably accelerate global warming insanely if he were so inclined just to make it so that the lions ran out of energy to even move to find food, and would die of starvation while every other Stand stays close to White Album for protection.
make pucci speed up time for his allies and they will take out the lions within a few seconds "Made In Heaven's speed is infinite according to the canon wikipedia"
You left out Wonder of You, he could sit in place and eat lunch ot smh while the lions die as they try to follow him also Weather Report and Catch the Rainbow would be a pretty cool combo, you should make a video about best stand combos
@@tuluflulu Actually it can target more than 1 person but they'd be in order of priority eg when he had yasuho on top of his order, she was supposed to die first, followed by rai and then gappy. Tooru can control that order and also quickly switch that order to kill multiple lions at a time
for the grateful dead problem, just have heaven's door write "fog only affects lions" on it and the battle becomes child's play. and weather report can raise the temperature so that the lions have a higher body temperature and the stand takes much less time.(the same things can be say for purple Haze)
Actually this problem solves itself, this is a lion vs stand only battle, and in the grateful dead fight only the humans were aged, so stands are straight up immune to grateful dead aging
My other, in my opinion, MVP stands: -C-Moon: A stand who can manipulate gravity and send a ton of lions to the space like Kars? Very useful -Over heaven: The fastest stand who can accelerate time into a new Big Bang? Pretty OP -GER: Oh, come on! This stand is undefeatable, even a billion lions can kill him because he can cancel all attacks -D4C love train: Not only has an imprenetable defence, also his fortune retribution can affect some of the lions that are in the battle -Green day: A stand similar to purple haze, and better, because it only affects the flesh (and stands are spiritual, no-corporeal beings) -Wonder of U: Similar to D4C love train, but with the calamity making untouchable the stand And thats it, my personal MVPs stands
a popular question of the same thread is 1 Billion Lions vs the Sun and the Sun is itself a stand ability
Ngl I wish I thought of that sooner
@@chewiedog1 😂😂 dawg not gone lie your my new favorite youtuber
@@chewiedog1 do what stand would be the best stand to fight against 1 billion lions
@@Freaky-Raine probably survivor, because it could make a billion lions attack each other and kill them all instantly
You stole it from one UA-camr
just simply get jotaro to say “So it’s the same type of stand.” so he can pull out 1 billion lions
Star Platinum: Billion Lions
bro heavy weather will 1 shot bro
@@TheJustincluck can lions read subliminal messages tho?
Birds can
@@triangularvegetables “Star Platinum: The World Lions” or something.
if you think about survivor can technically solo all 1 billion lions by making them fight each other
Oh damn you're actually right , stands are really broken
@@oh_Penitent_one holy shit i did not think abt that
Which was named as “the weakest stand” by DIO. Guess we finally made a good use for it.
as long as it is paired with a stand that can create water or it is raining
@@Hirusocool so weather report + survivor is 💀 for lions
The lions when Bohemian Rhapsody summons every Pokémon: 😨
Lmao
Lions when Bohemian Rhapsody summons Lions
Yes, but if a lion encounters arceus, the lion will just turn into arceus kinda.
There’s also C-Moon who could literally just turn gravity upside down and instantly kill all lions by sending them into the atmosphere.
We don't exactly know how large his radius is, but that is a good point
@@jamespilgrim3774 about 2x Cape Canaveral, since the gravitation got weird before the SO gang arrived at CC
@@jamespilgrim3774 no stand user no limit
There's way too many factors to consider to have an answer tbh. How far away do the lions start?
If they're close from the beginning, it's an easy w for the lions.
@@mhead1117
There is a zero percent chance of the lions winning. Again, C-Moon can turn gravity itself upside down. The lions are dying.
Then there’s GER which cannot be harmed at all except by reality manipulation which I don’t think lions have.
There wouldn’t even be enough space for 1 billion lions to take on all the stands at once even at their most effective. They’d be piling onto each other trying that and hurting themselves.
I think it would be hilarious to think of Kira Yoshikage, last on the field, and as the lions slowly circle him he tells one lion everything about him. The lion doesn't understand but then bites the dust activates, now that lion is even more confused because the battle just restarted.
Then kira yoshikage starts telling his life story and identity to the lions..
@@sebasg4mer575 the lions then get so confused they all die
@@kilzfordays they all are confused then kira says Killer Queen: Bites Za Dusto and then they are even more confused because they all are at the start of the battle and some of them start randomly exploding 💀
@@sebasg4mer575 Yes
I get that this is a joke, but.... Kira revealing his identity is the very thing that deactivated Bites The Dust....
No user? Man the hand is finally gonna get to show off its full power
Judging by the looks of the stand, it would be as, if not a little more, dumb than okuyasu, the blinds on his eyes for example, it means his ahh doesnt even have a good spatial awaraness, noob fr.
@@cross977so position him away from the other stands and have him spam his attack, no problem
ZA HANDOOO
@@cross977 yea but when it touching you deletes you instantly doesn't require a brain
Za hando Za warudo
My favorite combo to think about is the greatful death + the sun stand, just raises the body temperatures and therefore the aging exponentially
Mine is weather report and catch the rainbow, This combo would be ultra busted
the lion's fw the sun ages and goes supernova
Keep in mind, The Sun, Magician's Red and Greatful Dead would make a crazy combo.
Don't even need Magician's Red, The Sun and Greatful Dead are all you really need
@@wtf_is_this_handle_shit Magician's red would help a lot too.
lions speed blitz bro cope
@@akamegaedits ur the one coping no amount of lions beats the sun or some one who can invert gravity/pause time or heat up their surrounding or change demension a etc
@@akamegaedits GER Simply existing is an instant win. Any attack thrown at it is instantly undone
You literally forgot about the most powerful stand? Hermit purple could simply smash a camera and maybe figure out where the lions might be AT ANY TIME
yeah but it would just be a spikey vine even if you did give it a user the user would just die as soon as he tried to fight the lions
@@ayasantos6746It's a joke
Most powerful stand lol. Cheap trap is 100 times stronger. I can joke too XD.
@@williammatkins6348 Guys.. the joke is really simple.
They're saying that Hermit Purples greatest strength is the fact you can figure out where the lions are at any time by smashing a camera...
but it's 1 billion lions.. we can already see where all the lions are.
doesn't matter
A lot of stands, without users, lose their downside or balance. And most of them become broken the moment that happens.
Like The Hand is just slow now and with like every Stand here is at least taking out 3
@@Xman34washere The Hand is probably going to take out more than 3. Plus it could just fly away by erasing the space in front of it if it needed to escape. The Hand is fucking busted and the lions would stand no chance.
Imagine star plantinum with rage
The Hand loses Okuyasu. It now solos the lions.
@@wormsign2637 FAX
I feel like removing the stand user is a buff for the stands. Besides some of them needing stands, you remove a fatal weakness for the stand: if the user dies, the stand goes with them, minus cases like B.I.G and limp.
I think users should be included
I'm assuming the arguement is based off of stands dying after receiving injuries that would kill their users, I feel like it'd be unnecessary to include stand users to the discussion for stands that don't need a user, do you really think the lions can deal with vampire laser eyes?
@@KatZEdition all Kira would need is a sexually harassed small child
Just give em requiems to all stands and tell them to go live by themselves to save the world, boom, op stands thinkin on their own
(Would not work I know but imagine if it did work XD)
All of the users are in coco jumbo (the turtle from part 5)
Weather Report is the real MVP 😂 He can literally just delete the ozone layer and EVERYTHING except the stands are dead (cause they don’t have a user)
Honestly, pretty much any stand that can only be defeated by specific stands have an inherent advantage. Jumping jack flash would wipe the floor with 1 million lions.
why the fuck is he right???! like that stand can make 100% oxygen, like come on! 100% oxygene is UNBREATHABLE, he is killing all the lions without breaking a sweat.
WEATHER REPORT SOLO
@Freedfg that is true. It's shown Jumping Jack Flash is one of those stands Weather Report is nearly completely useless against, once JJF's ability activates.
I don't think Jumping Jack Flash would win against even a thousand Lions.
It's gravity pull range is limited. When it's filled with Lions, the rest not affected can just attack the stand.
It didn't really show any combat abilities to defend against a single lion.
@@BrakSplash it has its shrapnell centrifuges
Imagine weather report or any stand really that can make a huge block of ice and then have thankful death do it’s thing like that one person that almost got the tape from mista
2:56 Just one quick thing that I'm sure others have pointed out, the Grateful Dead doesnt affect other stands. Sex pistols seemed to be completely unaffeccted by the stand ability; the only problem was that the stand user (Mistah) was dying from it
EXACTLY
The Grateful Dead and The Sun would make for a great combo
Technically stands don't age, so the reason they'll be affected by the Grateful Dead is because the user will grow old and become weaker. Since stand is bound to the user's spiritual energy, they generally weakens as their users age.
So without the user, the stand should be unaffected.
Said something similar in another thread, learning about the unique properties of abilities is really cool
@@havinearlong9055don’t forget in this case almost all the stands dont have users.
1 billion lions: *exist*
WOU’s meteor: allow me to introduce myself
thats what ı am think
U know that Wou can damage its user?
@@Shadowlooord the user doesn’t have to live, the lions just have to die.
But with Wonder of U the user will never die unless the lions make an existing thing that does not follow the world’s logic.
@@Shadowlooord Wou is calamity so even without the user the effect can be used
I thought the sun would be up there because it's THE LITERAL SUN
Having both Green Day and C-Moon on the battle field would make for a deadly combo, having C-Moon affect the gravitational pull and having the lions sent flying backward, while Green Days ability takes effect and consumes their flesh with mold!
But it's also shown the gravity can somewhat be countered. It's just shifting sideways.
Depending upon the terrain, the Lions can simply climb over one another or the terrain itself to get to C-Moon.
It's a Billion Lions.
@@BrakSplash but the terrain is flat like he said in the video
@@BrakSplash oh and the gravity depends on where pucci stands, but since there is no pucci????
@Dominic Stocks that's a good point.
Still, with millions upon millions of Lions, I can them literally make a pile the size of mount everest to get to C-moon 🤣
@@Shiina6969 I guess it shifts to where C-moon stands *shrugs*
You forgot that Justice could also possess the dead bodies of the lions, meaning that killing a lion would give not 1 but 2 zombie lions fighting for the stands
true true and then c-moon and just make gravity go wack since stands don't move according to gravity
Not Zombie Lions, Zombie Dinosaur Lions. Two armies of them. GG
Basically a whole game of infection
Notorious B.I.Gs kills don't count tho, it would consume the bodies of the lions so not even limp bizkit can zombify it.
@@Mr_Fr34ky though Notorious B.I.G would also be an MVP in this situation.
Deadly combos nobody really thinks about: Grateful Dead + The Sun. Grateful Dead ages you faster the hotter you are and The Sun is, well, the sun. Probably will take less than 10 seconds of being exposed to the two of them for anything to age to dust.
If you can get the temperature high enough to alter your body temperature, you proprably wont need to use Greatful dead to kill someone
Problem goes back to the self damage grateful death does to allies
@@absolutegarbage3654 The Sun's user sitting in his AC box again
@@absolutegarbage3654 just have white album create ice to cool people.
C-Moon + Green Day. C-Moon can fling them to the sky, and once they fall they will just disintegrate
Underrated combo: Weather Report and Survivor
Survivor makes anything it affects go ballistic and fight at the slightest provocation, and spreads via an electrical current, you can see where this is going
Make it rain, unleash Survivor, and watch
The funny thing is: Survivor would be one of the most deadly stands to the lions. It’s ability (if it can affect non humans) would cause the Lions to fight each other (optimistic)
the problem is that at some point the stands would start fighting each other too
@@thesyndrome43 Then just make sure Vanilla Ice stays in the void till everyone's dead.
Another would be Justice, the Fog Stand. All it would take would be one scratch or even a corpse. And it can control the lions. They'd have: a Undead invisible lion Army from Limp Bizcuit, Lion turned Dinosaurs Army from Scary Monsters, Angry Lions attacking eachother from Survivor, and Lions controlled by Justice.
@@thesyndrome43 just if they don't get wet, oh fu- the rain
@@cheesecake1255 Not to mention Weather report would absolutely just devastate them.
Something he forgot to mention is that by removing the users he's also removed stand range. That means that anything like Star Platinum is no longer limited to a few meters, and can just rush through swaths of lions without having to worry about any limitations to range since they can easily close the distance
How quickly could star platinum kill one billion lions after all he can move at light speed
@@grahamrange7092Made In heaven makes the lions go to heaven
@@grahamrange7092 Star platinum on its own wouldn't be able to take out the billion lions. It could probably take on a few hundred, maybe a thousand or two if we're being generous because it is quite strong, but yeah not really that valuable here.
@@jackthorndyke3390 dude the lions would not be able to damage star platinum, he would destroy them it would just take awhile
@@fallenlegend2763 He wouldn't have the stamina for it
"exponentially growing numbers of invisible zombie lions" is technically one of the sentences that was ever made.
That might be a new sentence
Invisible zombie lion dinosaurs
I read this comment at the exact same time as the dude said it
Bohemian Rhapsody can just summon 1 of every Pokémon so now it’s every JJBA stand and every Pokémon vs the Lions.
I got it, Enya’s Justice stand can control things after piercing them, allowing her to puppet their corpses, she can also control multiple things at once. So even more zombie lion army.
Yeah, then get hanged man on there to get those wounds. And Silver Chariot+ Anubis who are super fast. Or maybe give Anubis to The World.
Hermit purple is full of thorns, so add that as well. Plus any other stand that can pierce like Geb, Hierophant Green and Metallica.
Also it would finish the lions Cream didn't OHKO
@@xoana4197 Red Hot Chili Pepper + Weather Report.
It wouldn't even be a fair fight.
I’m just imagining Kira running up to a lion and telling it his life story so he can use btd
*steps getting closer and louder* "my name is kira yoshikage, i am 33 years ol-" *dies*
@@emanueldavi._.5220other Kira Yoshikage “good grief.”
The lions wouldnt even get past sheer heart attack for him to need to do that though
Not including the stand user is a HUGE advantage for the stands. A lot of stands are impossible to kill without the weakness of a vulnerable user. Also it doesn't make sense not to include the user because most stands doesn't have a mind of its own.
i take it like this: the stand will act as if it’s being controlled by a user, but the user is just in the stand. The stand will walk like a human (if it can) and if you wanna go the extra mile, you could say that the stand has the endurance/stamina of the user.
think of the stand like iron man armor
These particular lions can interact and see stands xD
@@starkiller6tothe9gaming81 you don't know if we should or not be able to see Lions
Even with the user, Postmortem Stands like Cheap Trick and Notorious B.I.G. would win by default.
Back to Pokemon introducing Magcargo being as hot as the sun.
Back to stands and we have the literal sun...fr...no joke...
“I dunno man. One billion lions is a lot of lions.”
-My brother
Tell you brother that The Sun(Stand) Beats 1 billion lions.
Don’t forget yellow temperance. It’s a stand that absorbs organic matter, can manifest spikes, and is seemingly immune to physical damage. As the user said, it has no weaknesses.
True, its only weakness is the user, as proven by jotaro when he was choking him underwater
@@epixerty and theres no user so no weakness
@@buh-buh-cat DO YOU UNDERSTAND?
Notorious B.I.G vs Yellow Temperance when?
@@FizzyPopVevo tbh i would prefer notorius b.i.g vs weather report, would love to see hiw the snails would affect the stand
What’s even scarier about purple haze is that he can take off the bulbs (all star battle) and throw them sometimes
And at the end of his one and only fight in the series
that was taken from purple haze feedback, an off shoot written by araki talking about what he did after he left. his virus also grows so strong it can kill itself lol
Purple Haze Feedback wasn’t written by Araki, it was written by Kohei Kadono. However Araki did do all of the art for the light novel.
@@wormlington ah, my bad, thank you for correction
@@skincutta He literally does it to kill Michael Jackson, wdym
Keep in mind every last lion purple haze kills WILL be made into a zombie to kill more lions
I feel like cheep trick would also be a great stand for the lions since the quantity of lions there would always be a lion looking at their backs
THATS WHAT I WAS THINKING THE ENTIRE TIME
But what happens when you get to 1 lion?
@@epicsaxguy2924 he lives
@@epicsaxguy2924 He gets beat up by the rest of the stands
@@ItsMe_Victor right I forgot it's not just soloing it's all of them
just want to put in that the only limitation of The World's timestop is the user's ability to sustain it. So if it were detached from its user and simply allowed to roam free, it should theoretically be able to stop time forever and kill all the lions that way.
Same thing with SP Jotaro can’t withdtain it for very long because it’s so draining
@@Gaut420 its not draining. Timestop is dependent on your oxygen or something along the lines. Its stated somewhere somewhere in show. Its also why the world has an oxygen tank on its back
@@dragonsmoke16418DIO doesn’t need oxygen to survive so if this were the case he would be able to stop time indefinitely. It’s never stated that timestop is dependent upon oxygen. I highly doubt Jotaro can only hold his breath for 2 seconds. The oxygen tanks are likely either just a design choice, or a reference to one of Ronnie James Dio’s most popular songs, “Holy Diver”.
@@MaximusMeridiusX i said something along the lines of it. Read about it because the author stated it somewhere
It would be limited by how long you could hold your breath unless you’re DIO who has oxygen tanks in which case he’d be limited by that plus how long he could hold his breath. However, this doesn’t mean that timestop is dependent on oxygen alone, but also how much they have “trained” their timestop, as Jotaro at first was able to stop time for 5 seconds but doesn’t use it for quite a while until part 4 at which point it has decreased to half a second until the end of part 4 where he trains it to 1-2 seconds. After this, he trains it to 5-6 seconds for part 6 as he was worried about not being strong enough to protect people like he was in part 4.
Tl:dr: timestop dependent on both how much you have trained it and how long you can hold your breath (I guess)
Cheep Trick would be absolutely Devastating, the moment the stand obtains ahold of a lion, it would just tear lines through the hoard.
Yeah cheap trick def solos. The lions would have no choice but to "surrender" (cheap trick is probably one of my favorite stands just because of how stupid it is)
@@hydemeit is LITTERALY called Cheap trick. So it fits.
Wonder of u chilling in the background
@@grandpa8877probably forces them all to either die or look at Cheap Trick.
@@Aaa-vp6ug true but wonder of u can become the doctor aka fresh meat the lion eyes
I feel like white album would be really good as it’s user can skate around while loads of lions get frozen tbh it would basically be a better cream because it can see where it is going
A small thing about Grateful Dead. The aging is only shown to affect the people, not the stands themselves. We see Sticky Fingers and Sex Pistols acting just fine despite their users almost being dead at that time. Stands cant be affected by the aging, and since you clarified that it is just the stands there, stands like Grateful Dead, Purple Haze, or Ozon Baby reasonably wouldn't be able to affect any other stands besides the stands that require users, such as Love Deluxe or Emperor.
Additionally, I do wonder how a Stand like The Sun would interact with Weather Report and if they would unintentionally counteract each other. But speaking on it, how could the lions ever deal with The Sun? They would all die of heatstroke before the fight even got serious.
lions speed blitz bro cope
Yeah, I kinda agree. Since most stands are spirit manifestations, they shouldnt have any body heat to think of.
about grateful dead and aging, we do see in part 3 that when Polnareff get younger because of sethan's ability, silver chariot also get weaker. Would that mean that stand age in a way as well ? although it's true that this doesn't seem to happen in the greatful dead's fight
@@xeskenn18 that's not necessarily what happens in the Sethan fight.
It was established earlier that Polnareff was born a Stand user, much like Avdol. So when he is reverted back to an 8 year old, his stand reverts back to how powerful his fighting spirit was when he was 8 (which obviously wasn't that much). His stand didn't become younger, his will just became smaller as a result of his de-aging.
This is the same reason why Jotaro couldn't use his stand when he became younger. Star Platinum had been dormant until the events of part 3, and so it became dormant again when Jotaro reverted in age.
But even if stands could become younger, this still wouldn't technically apply to Grateful Dead because they are completely separate stands that have different rules for how their power works. It's like the old comparison between Hanged Man and Man in the Mirror. They both operate using reflections but the rules they have are completely different, as J Geil has to travel between reflections as a beam of light while Illuso can use his own "mirror world". Stands all have their own rule sets, and what a Stand can do with a power may not necessarily be the same as what another could do with a similar power.
Weather Report and Catch the Rainbow is a great combo but you also need to remember that after a while the ground is going to be all wet, meaning that survivors will become a broken stand that can make as many lions as it wants turn on each other in aggression.
But also does the same to Friendlies.
@@Minious1020 That depends if stands are alive by nature or just entities, living things can be affected but if stands are just representations of someones soul that might mean that they arnt affected.
Also the hanged man can go full force as it has been shown that it can go through the reflection of raindrops
@@Minious1020 Heaven Door probably could cancel Survivor's ability
@@Minious1020 stands have no neural sistem
And I think this only just scratches the surface of how favored the stands are. For another win by technicality, you got 20th Century Boy and Magenta Magenta just lives forever, probably surrounded by rotting lion corpses, but still technically a win. And for a crazy synergy, we got Blue Hawaii from part 8, that makes any human or animal seek onto a target in and attack, essentially. So long as the victim has touched something the user has linked to, so let's say one of Joshu's teeth and kinda just, throw it into the lion mob. Then the lions, not understanding strategy or patterns, will simply attack the traitorous lion. This will likely give the lion who killed the mind controlled lion some feeling of guilt, and that's where Civil War comes in. This will basically animate what they feel guilt about, creating a SECOND ARMY OF LIONS. Theoretically, this could end with around 2 billion lions. This could also work with Survivor instead of Blue Hawaii, but then the stands would probably fight and result in a Notorious BIG only win, which is lame. Lastly, I know we barred off non canonical stands, but how do we feel about NYPD Blue from Jorge Joestar? What's the stand do? Be a cop. Just one singular fat middle aged cop. That's it. Is that too overpowered or..?
the Blue Hawaii and Civil War is a good combo but would only work in a church-sized space from what was said
NYPD blue would solo it’s diff not allowed
We haven't even touched the possibility of a Made in Heavan, D4C Love Train and Wonder of U sweep. There's also C-Moon who can blow them away, Brainstorm, another virus stand, base D4C who can bring more friends and insta-kill lions.
A stand theoretically 🤓don’t have a temperature, so it wouldn’t affect any of his allies
No need to bring non canon stands when WoU would win alone
The hand: "you spin me right round, baby right round like a record baby, right round round round!"
Imagine how busted weather report and hanged man combos would be. Like it’s probably not the most efficient killer, but has a crazy busted range and ability to never be killed itself unless a lion gets a lucky shot on a random raindrop at the perfect time.
Catch The Rainbow and Weather Report might just be able to kill all Lions instantly
Notorious B.I.G oneshots them all on its own, considering even a full team of other stand users couldnt kill it, and its now a kraken in the ocean.
@@xleplayVA B.I.G gets overlooked too many times, even GER probably couldn't beat it.
@@dankrigby5621 nah ger beats it, basically all the ubers beat it: GER, Tusk act 4, D4C LoveTrain, Wonder of U
@@xleplayVA how would get attack it without hurting itself? Tusk act 4 and love train would be interesting, but I can't see wou killing big. How would it damage him? I mean sure big wouldn't be able to get to Giorno or tooru but they wouldn't be able to kill it either so it's kinda a stalemate until they give up or die of old age.
Wonder of U would decimate the lions cause when they try and go after it they would succumb to calamity. Theoretically, this could probably solo the lions since they would not even be able to approach Wonder of U close enough to cause damage.
Actually with wou the "it's 1 billion lions" excuse works because it only works on 1 person at a time
Decimate means to diminish by a tenth
@@lord-of-flys there’s no real evidence showing the speed at which WOU can switch and cause calamity to targets, assuming it does have an order of who to kill. So no real way to say whether WOU flops or trucks.
@@cringeslayer3892it does have an order of calamity, and will target one person at a time until they either stop seeking for the stand user or die.
@@cringeslayer3892also, something i forgot to mention is
If wonder of U has no user/the user died, then it roams around freely and causes calamity all over the place. So it technically works since there are no users here.
People very often forget that The World has endless time stop potential. The reason Dio didnt was because he was still getting use to the power. And even he said that he eventually would have been able to stop time forever. So with this being said, I think the conclusion is obvious
It has the capability of doing so because DIO has more life force than an average human. Jotaro at his peak physical form was able to do 5 seconds. DIO, as a vampire, was able to extend this time even further by absorbing humans and especially those descended from Jonathan. He also never ages so his time won't decrease. This gives the question, would a DIOless The World have infinite time like DIO **could** or just have the time stop time of a regular person. The same goes for star platinum. Are they the only stands affected by life force? Can being a vampire make other stands more powerful?
@@anoon-If stands could use their abilities then yeah it could stop time forever since it's tied to the user's stamina
okey but a billiions lions is too many lions
@@anoon-also tbf to the stands, jotaros peak time stop efficiency was not very peak right? as far as i'm aware he never really trained it and specifically got very rusty between parts 3 and 4
Just gonna ignore wonder of U..
0:05
The focus on this thumbnail with gardevoir is gold.
Me using Osiris to beat all the lions in a poker game:
Probably better odds of getting that to work than Boy II man
@@Purple_Sloth how about highway star
I would've thought Survivor would be the ultimate MVP. Instead of creating an exponentially growing army, it just makes everyone go into a free-for-all.
Lol, survivor is the weakest stand
@@llawliet7434The reason it is called as "the weakest Stand" by DIO, is because the activation of the Stand effect.
@@fern_lightvale Dio explains it himself . its weakest cuz you cant control it or choose the victim. so its useless to dio. he says its a strong stand but its the most useless to him.
Survivor needs humidity or water to travel better, so Weather Report would be a pair made in heaven
“Exponentially growing numbers of invisible zombie lions” - Brand new sentence
Everyone has a pack of ice, grateful dead does its deed, happy time
“Invisible zombie lion turned dinosaur army” had me dead 💀
Other than this video being very good, this brings me to the most important question of all: how can someone actually think 1 billion lions could beat all Pokémon? I feel like anybody who actually think the lions could win have never played, read or watched any form of Pokémon media.
Especially now with the release of Scarlet and Violet, we got FLAMIGO.
Ok, but have you considered, 1 billion lions...is a lotta lions. I don't care if you have Arceus and its thousand fucking hands that's a BILLION lions, imagine thinking Necrozma with its dumbass laser beams or Yveltal's kill everything cocoon could KILL 1 BILLION lions. You're insane if you think 1 BILLION lions could be beaten.
@@PEARLSTOTHEPLAYERS Counter argument: Metapod uses the move harden so many times that it becomes invincible resulting in the lions pissing off because they become bored af.
@@PEARLSTOTHEPLAYERS mega tyranitar solos
@@PEARLSTOTHEPLAYERS the issue with 1 billion lions is that they can only come from so many places. Say for example the pokemon just manipulate the battlefield a little, for example they create an earthquake tearing down a massive hole in the battlefield lions just fall in, stand on the side of the hole and get blasted by ranged abilities or leave (the only possible way the might win), pokemon can also fly and most importantly have range which allows them to defend in a way more organized manner (this ofc depends on what kind of intelligence we allow the pokemons to have but as far as I remember at least the legendary pokemon were pretty intelligent to the point they could probably command the rest. So with the ability to strategise all we need to do is arrange the pokemon in a formation where they just blast everything that tries to approach from range, using attacks with AoE, poison attacks, fire attacks etc. might also cause environmental damage making the approach impossible. Most importantly, pokemon have been seen surviving absolutely ridiculous things while lions are just actual animals, even a lot of first form pokemons could probably cause a lot of damage here since pokemons just have been shown to be far more durable and capable of stupid destructive power. There is of course the issue with lion after lion just charging them, especially if the pokemon are surrounded that they eventually run out of energy and lose that way but if we take into consideration the ability to manipulate the battlefield even that is fixed.
...and in the crowd of stand users,you hear only a single sentence: "Yo, Josuke!" - Okuyasu
the combo of the greatful dead and THE SUN and white album is perfect
True mvp is Bohemian Rhapsody. Man literally can create a character that specifically is able to erase 1b lions in one blink and then fly to a moon or smth. This is truly best stand out there to win this fight
Do Lions have a concept of fictional characters? Is Mufasa just gonna show up and all the lions just get killed by a stampede after being betrayed by their brothers?
"That's how the story goes!" After all
@@drasticplastic1218 you seem to not understand Bohemian rhapsody. ANYBODY can draw a character and image that it can , for example, kill 1 b lions.
Can’t heavens door just write that one of the stands can kill a billion lions?
My first thought on reading this is that the 1b lions are also fiction, and thus bohemian rapsody would bring them to life.
Actually thinking about it bohemian rapsody also brought to life images and paintings, so my next thought is if combined with boingos toth you have an infinitely replicating army, as its images of the future would come to life, replicating all the stands and lions again.
@Drastic Plastic that's a good question.
Bohemian Rhapsody's Stand power is probably useless, if it's against 1 billion Lions.
Weather Report not only enables Catch the Rainbow, but it also enables Hanged Man, giving you an invincible one shot machine flying around the battlefield at lightspeed cutting all their legs off before they can even move.
There's another stand in Part 5 that would also help and that is Chariot Requiem
If you count making the lions evolve into other creatures as a kill ofc
Besides, if the body swap is used, then the already existing stands in the battlefield are going to be buffed
That would also hurt the stands
@@winningsmile1843 I mean, it wouldn't really, because they don't have users in the this situation.and even if it make every stand bond with a lion, any lion that tries to attack SCR will just have it's new stand turned against them. So overall easy dub for stands
@@Mr_Tux794The lions don’t have stands they just have the ability to interact and see stands to balance it
@@OasisTrain he means if they bond with the already existing 134 stands
@@KronosXL. Ah I don’t really get what you mean but I at least see your point thx
Ok before i watch this video ima guess that bohemian rhapsody, cheap trick, bites the dust and wonder of you solo
A lot of stands, especially ones from later parts are just perfectly suited for killing 1 billion lions. I Am A Rock could be combined with Cream to essentially create an endless Absorber of Lions. All it takes is Man in The Mirror to ensure every stand’s (and stand user’s) safety in the case that something risky for both sides like Grateful Dead is used.
Yeah but a combination of stands can make sure that no stands even take damage (including ones like Thoth), assuming the time stop cooldown is 2x the time stopped, Star Platinum, The World (only freezing for 5 instead of its max), and The World (AU) can create a permafreeze and chip away at the lions, and throw in stands immune to Time Stop, like Tusk Act 4, C-Moon and the whole thing would be over without a real second passing
or just SCR by itself could alter all the 1 billion lions simultaneously
@@rdavila8964 Isn't there a range on it's effect?
@@Lunar_F_Blues range is at least greater than the city of Rome
@@rdavila8964 Yeah but it's 1 billion lions semi spread out, I'm not doubting it's force but its not gonna be insta win, also I'm not sure I would include it as the requiem arrow doesn't belong to SC anymore
I just realized The grateful dead and The sun together are literally unstoppable. The sun makes everything warmer to the point that aging is instant and they would dehydrate VERY fast. also Both have a large AOE radius
So yeah my guess is the sun
@@NiceO1 oh my fucking god you are a genius
or just made in heaven resets the universe without the lions
I think Soft and Wet should also count as an MVP not for how many loins he kills but for how many stand he saves. Think about it just have Soft and Wet remove the aging of all the other stands or the ability to get sick or any other thing that might cause friendly fire and boom the stands are doing a lot better then they where doing before.
For the aging There's Horus wich creates ice
@@firuto7970 Also White Album just freezes things in an AOE by cooling the air
@@firuto7970 white album is just horus but better, why they did it i don't know but it is
I also feel that C-Moon and Made in Heaven would be MvP's. C-Moon with the ability to manipulate gravity. And Made in Heaven being so fast it''ll slice through the lions easily
Stand don’t age
love that theres just a giant ship in the corner cause whats strength going to do
Since the Lions are pursuing you, WOU won't even have to do anything.
It's hilarious the number of stands that can basically solo the lions, but would kill all the other stands. Also I don't know if the vid says it, I am most of the way through, but the sun could pretty much solo
I feel like adding the users back would make this drastically more fair
Yes and more interesting but also stands would still win by default cause of notorious big
You forgot about survival, just imagine the chaos lmao
My one thought going through all of this was one stand being able to take them all on singlehandedly by practically juzt walking. Wonder of U. Heck, he diesn't even need to walk. All he needs is for the lions to approach him then kablammo, they're kapoot. Combine that with Weather Report's raining, even the simplest of rains, and we got bullets coming form the sky.
yah i was going to say that as well i mean rain turns into bullet i am sure he could turn coffe into acid and well YEAH WONDER OF U ALONE CAN SOLO 98% of jojo
@@levanteluxegifting8430 The better analogy would have been lava, but acid works too.
Lions would destroy WoU. If he was solo. Based on how you wrote it, they must be very close to tooth.
@@user-bt7zh9tz4t Elaborate
@@user-bt7zh9tz4t the calamity get stronger the closer they get yo wou
So it is impossible for lion lol
Also the calamity affect everything trying to pursue him not 1 thing per time
not to mention, some stands have abillities that can combo off eachother
for exampel:
A silver charriot holding an anubis with armor release has shown to not only become faster and more stronger, but combined with silver charriot's after images, it can shred through lions like a living blender
Imagine Kiss not only duplicating the projectiles of stands that use projectiles, but also imagine kiss duplicating anubis and now silver charrtiot is basically a blur that can match made in heaven's speed
stands like emporer could be held by other stands, so emporer could be held by tusk act 4, and sex pistols could team up with tusk act 4 plus emporer, to bounce the projectiles of both emporer and tusk
one last exampel, to add to the ever expanding army of sheer heart attacks, zombie lions, dinosuars, and zombie dinosuars
we could add bad company and survivor, to add more to the army, so lions would be attcking eachother, while bad company wipe them out
Greatful dead and the sun, the sun gets the lion extremely hot and greatful dead ages them super fast tou also dont need just the sun like magicians red or weather report could do just as much damage
@@BEANN3217 yea and the ice dude in part 5 could stop the ally stands from ageing
Emporer
Emporer
D4C with Scary Monster's could make an infinite army. Also Your Silver Chariot idea with Anubis could also work with Hang Man who could slice up be in the swords to slice up all the lions the side of the sword faces.
You could probably counter the downside of Grateful Dead with Ghiaccio's stand (I forgor the name), but you'd have to be careful not to get the lions in his range as well or it would negate Grateful Dead entirely
There’s also Pet Shop to help with that, and there’s a few stands that can heat up the lions to really speed things up, namely Magician’s Red and The Sun
now that i think about it why did they bring Pecci and not Ghiaccio to the train, he can just create a frozen barrier in the middle of the train protecting him and Procuiutto or also Pecci if they did bring him anyway Mista wouldn't be able to break it then Procuiutto can just touch him to age him before throwing him of the train.
Also Ghiaccio's stand is called White Album
Yeah, white album + grateful dead is just plain a broken stand combo that proves that La Squadra had *way* more combo options than they used in Part 5. If they were all working together at any given time Giorno and Bucciarati would've stood no chance.
@@mcslayer9796 Also Weather Report could probably raise the temperature even more to speed up Grateful Dead
lion speed blitz
No mention of Green Day is crazy
I'm surprised you didn't even bring up the sun I mean we already knows who wins that one.
Keep in mind, there would be about 5,952,381 lions fighting EACH stand, if the lions were equally divided to each stand, a reminder of how powerful the stands are.
Dont worry guys
Khnum got this
I don't know man but 1 billion lions is a lot
@@praaiseso is the power of the strongest stand in jojo: the sun
Massive fireball with no user meaning it can’t be hurt
Idk man I think the lions aren’t winning this one
@@Slykie they can probably use sunscreen
easy victims for WoU
I don’t think Cream has to worry that much about killing Stand Users as a battlefield to host 1 billion lions is so huge there are probably points in which he can catch a break for a peek if an ally is around.
Cream is just gonna go Vroom Vroom
Just put him in the middle and have him do a circle for like 20 minutes.
So i just did the math, and if 1 lion was killed every 1 second, by say a single punch from star platinum or any other single target stand, it would take 31 years to take out all 1 billion lions
Because of d4clt I think stands win because the damage goes back to all the nearby lions unless they learn infinite rotation stand users are fine. Lol this got really popular!
So everyone gonna just stand in a straight line to stay inside of love train? Also I find it funny that love train doesn't even belong to Valentine as it's the corpses stand, so Lucy gotta just be hunched over in the corner
Made in heaven could clear it while doing friendly fire.
WOU is an easy win
Well Love Train also kind of has friendly fire. We don't want Scary Monsters to die.
@@RommekePommeke still it kind of ends up killing everything then so still a win
10:10 Actually, I think Notorious B.I.G. is just a normal remote controled stand. At the end of SHA4, Kira summons SHA, lops off his left hand and says: "Sheer Heart Attack, you're now free". SHA survived losing its origin, which means it's technically post mortal as well.
Until the hand is gone or until sheer heart attscj explodes
notorious B.I.G will just be going after mih the whole time but mih can use that and make it hit all the lions by running near them
@the man yes mih will have notorious under control and if it stops moving noc will attack the lions
No
Quick search on mih's speed it is beyond the speed of light and is said to be inf
There's a huge error in the video that i need to point out, you completely got Ozone Baby wrong.
At the Ozone Baby section in 04:03, you say that Ozone Baby will pressurize the air around it, and works slower in an enclosed area, but that is not correct.
Ozone Baby's ability ONLY works on enclosed area, once activated, it pressurize the air within closed spaces only, not affecting open areas at all. The true deadly part of the ability is that once the closed spaces are pressured, opening them will cause a drastic decrease in air pressure, making anyone within (who are also pressured) suffer from decompression sickness and die. Meaning that anyone trapped within Ozone Baby's pressured spaces cannot escape because it's a near guaranteed instant end, making them having no choice but to stay in the closed space and suffer a slow death.
So despite still being horrifying, it doesn't really work under this battle scenario since you stated it's open space, rendering the stand pretty useless. Unless stands like the Fool or Under World can make enclosed spaces for it to use the ability.
soft and wet could in theory bubble lions for an enclosed space but even then its still straw pinching for a use of ozone baby
Wait what about WOU? Wouldn’t they all start to die immediately as they started to pursuing?
If “weather report” and “wonder of u” we’re together it would be op because of how the flow of calamity works with rain.
Doesn’t it only work if the lion wants to kill WOU? I’d think in a battlefield scenario, you’d see a random lion look at WOU, then start to melt, but the others are fine right?
@@Purple_Sloth yeah but considering wou as a stand can disguise even against other stand users to make it think its a human i doubt the lions would even realise its a stand and just think its a human or whatever its disguising and try to eat it so 1 lion wouldnt be the only problem there would be lots of lions just very inefficient since they wouldnt be focused on 1 human walking around doing nothing
All lions would be hit by lightning
@@Purple_Sloth No, since its ALL Lions vs ALL Stands, they would be trying to pursue him as well, and thereby activate the effects of his stand.
@@toweroffrogs9470 I was thinking it was like a battlefield filled with lions, lion sees stand, lion wants to attack stand. If every lion was implemented with the idea of “I know every stand here and I want to kill all of them” then yeah WOU would be included and the ability would activate on all of them.
But if it’s like some lions chilling on a battle field with their other 1 billion lion bros then they probably won’t attack until they see the stand is what I’m thinking.
For the grateful dead you also have to account for the fact that 1 billion lions are making a lot of warmth making them age even faster
I think you're underestimating the utility of The World and Star Platinum: The World. While they are mostly single-target stands, they both share the ability to stop time. Which means that, from a pitched battle deployment position, they can each be used to effectively instantly move any stand they need into position, extract stands that are in danger of getting overwhelmed, and provide support where needed basically without any time passing. Of course they're practically guaranteed to take out a few lions as well, but their best use would be support.
And still to this day those both still hold the title as the most strongest stands in physical strength, One platinum punch would kill a lion, Given it's light speed punches in stopped time, it can drop a lot of them. And if we're assuming the stands don't have a user they can stop time indefinitely. Since Jotaro couldn't stop time as long as Dio because his body/ heart couldn't handle it but Dio could because he was a vampire no user to suffer pain= infinite stop, BUT it would be better if they just let the other users deal with it
@@demonthesoule Hell, if you’re going faster than light (which is confirmed), time stop isn’t needed. Couldn’t star platinum or just extend his hand and ram the lions at light speed? If each lion had 20 square meters to themselves that would be 20 billion square meters for star platinum to cover, the speed of light can cover that area in around 66 or so seconds. Keep in mind star platinum is even faster than that and other FTL stands like The World or Made In Heaven exist to make the cleaning even faster. I’m pretty sure Chewiedog underestimated the raw speed of SP.
Your also forgetting about part 7 yhe world which can also stop time and technically part 4 part 3 and part 6 star platinum are different stands plus mandon and kc which is more time based stands effectively having full control of time
@@RallyLikesCheese
Star Platinum is the same stand throughout the various series, just with slight differences in appearance to match Jotaro's wardrobe changes and Araki's change of artstyle over time. Part 7 The World is technically just an alternate timeline counterpart to Part 3 The World, and functions identically. King Crimson can't be used in this way as its ability only allows itself to skip through time.
As for the other main time-based stand, Made In Heaven, despite having one of the most ridiculous abilities under normal circumstances it's actually completely useless in this battle. It could actually end up being a disadvantage since its ability would reduce the effectiveness of Star Platinum and The World.
@@VestedUTuber How would MiH reduce their effectiveness? Star Platinum was able to stop time while MiH was activated. If Pucci didn't have the knives Jotaro would've killed him.
Invisible zombie lions that spread a highly infectious and deadly disease across the battlefield
Stands win on the principle of Cream. Being a vampire, he would never need to leave his dimension for sustenance or any other reason, as shown by DIO surviving in an underwater coffin for a century. He could easily go on a massive killstreak and take every lion slowly and methodically on his own. I also feel like Justice would do a fantastic job, as each lion kill shifts the numbers in their favor. No tangible form means Justice can’t be harmed by the lions, so it’s a perfect matchup. Limp Bizkit can actually be hurt, so I’d say it’s actually a little less effective in this regard. Same goes for the zombies.
Also, cool idea, could Weather Report use lightning to charge up Red Hot Chili Pepper? If so, RHCP becomes effectively immortal, and incredibly powerful. It’s also a huge boost to Foo Fighters with a rainstorm.
what about hs?
stand buffs
My take
Purple haze + weather report
Purple haze uses his virus and weather report can use high gust of air to blow it to the lions
Cream is less useful than you think. What happens when Cream pops out of his bubble, only to find he's flown himself underneath tons of water/dirt, and can't find his way back to the surface?
@@chhite7590 he would just activate his ability again and fly back up to the surface
People sleep on Anubis so hard. Exponential growth is insane. For every kill, it becomes faster, more strategic and stronger. It could easily kill 4/5 lions in its base form, and after that it's GG and no lion can top it individually. Moreover, if you ever kill the user, it could take control of a lion and continue from where it left off
Give Anubis to a strong humanoid stand like Silver Chariot or Star Platinum, infect said stand with Survivor, and buddy, you got a soup cooking.
@@dragonheart1236thats... horrorfying, my god
@@yuribumagnygoncalvessampai7560 I've done some cooking. Star Platinum is the ideal choice, not because of Time Stop, but because of his enhanced senses and reflexes. This combos very nicely with Survivor's Weakness Visualisation effect, and also Anubis' Selective Permeability and Technique Enhance.
With this combo, you have a super strong, super fast stand that can see your weaknesses, target your weaknesses, and can attack past most forms of barrier or defense, meaning you can't protect those weaknesses.
And thanks to both Survivor's and Anubis' scaling effects, this monster only becomes stronger the longer it fights.
@@dragonheart1236 and if you throw weather report into the mix, you can just put anyone into a blind rage, making them easier to be killed by anubis star platinum
Dio: hold my road roller
Giorno: what lions?
Pucci: MIH has already killed you
Wonder of U.
Everybody seems to forget about justice
Like, wth are a bunch of lions gonna do about a fog? A fog that puppets corpses, doubling the amount of zombie lions (and dinosaurs) they're up against, along with the living ones, should they get an ouchie
Purple haze? It's ability is litterly to spread a acid-like virus cloud
One of my fav stands :)
Edit: holy shit I was right.... time to buy scratch tikets
And Gold Experience/Requiem can vaccinate the friendlies.
@@Minious1020 exactly
@@Minious1020 and d4c lt is immune as long as lt is active
I think the viruses has to infect the user, not the stand
@@paracausallybased nope. It was stated that the creature born within the Virus has a natural immunity.
After seeing the part about the video stating the battle would be without the user, I immediately have come to the conclusion that many stands could most likely solo this, the ones that come to mind are the geb, sun, sethan, cream, and hanged man(which could out live the lions at minimum) only considering part 3 stands, not to say the other parts don’t have it better.
Limp Bizkit + Justice would mean every time a lion dies, you get both a ghost zombie AND an actual zombie, creating 2 new units to fight the lions every time one dies. Once the ball gets rolling, it's going to be a bloodbath.
@@megasuperiordude Lets not Forget Scary monsters Either making em dead Dino's/zombie dino's, but also having living dinos to work with.
though thats cheating and boring, in realistic scenario youd be completely correct
Hell, Scary Monsters can solo considering every Lion that gets so much as a nick of blood becomes part of the Dino army, as well as Diego being able to dodge bullets rather easily.
Common Diego W.
If they had the sun stand from stardust crusaders it's gonna make sheer heart attack even stronger and the aging one as well
but SHA doesnt get stronger with heat...
Heat makes explosions bigger
@@Hirusocool it does. SHA exploded a lot more powerfully when it contacted fire
@@REAL_HYPER1 but it moves towards the heat source
@@CJ0809 and causes an explosion big enough equivalent to the heat source so regardless with that logic even though I forgot about it , an explosion the size of a mini sun is probably still going to do some insane damage
Doobie wah sounds very strong vs 1 billion animals which are obv breathing
You glossed over Catch the Rainbow but honestly with that + Weather Report, that combo could single-handedly body all of the lions. Like, seriously. The rain is now a field of razors that slice the lions to bits when they move. GG.
I remember hearing that Catch the Rainbow has to use natural rainfall, so that wouldn't work if that's true
@Catmanic A) There's no stipulation that Catch the Rainbow can't use rain created by another stand's ability (because why would there be) and B) Weather Report can just create weather phenomena. So if it makes rain, it's rain.
I think cheap trick could play a very similar role as BIG, it’s even more amazing if the curse effects still active off a corpse plus lions would be attracted to eachother so it’s like an infective forever virus
Another stand that would be a MVP is Wonder of U since all it needs to activate is for someone to "pursue" it or it's user. Which it's version pursue is extremely vague, meaning if they looked at the stand or user or thought about killing him, then the ability of calamity would activate making just about anything deadly. Trip on a pebble? Your leg is gone. One of the lions accidentally bumped into one other? Suddenly a domino effect of lions squishing like they were made of jello.
thank you no one was talking about WoU
@@lanyon2716 thank you; but I don't remember caring about what people were asking. I was adding onto the topic of the video. Next time try getting some bitches instead of starting an argument on a twelve day old comment.
@@HeirofDacia 🤓
Wou+wr would be deadly
@@HeirofDacia he said no one talked about it, not it wasn't included dude.
Summoner Class:
Limp Bizkit (For ghost summons) + Justice (For corpse summons)
+ Scary Monsters (Rawr) + Notorious B.I.G (For speed summon)
+ Golden Wind (Random summons)
Slow Killer Class:
Grateful Dead (Rapid age increase) + The Sun (More heat for GD)
+ Weather Report (More heat for GD)
Ozone Baby (Dps damage)
Danger Aoe Class:
Purple Haze (Rapid virus infection) + Green Tea (Rapid mold infection)
Killer Queen (Explosive damage)
OP Aoe:
C - Moon (Gravity Control)
The Hand (Spatial Destruction) + Cream (Spatial Destruction)
Weather Report / Heavy Weather (It's just Weather Report)
Wonder Of U (Like Cmon!!!)
Honourable Mentions:
The Stand that DIO thought was useless
Imagine this, Horus + White Wlbum distributing ice while Grateful Dead ages the lions. Would take a while but with zoning stands like The Fool you could prolly make an impenetrable fortress to stock up, and since this will prolly take a while to end, Pearl Jam could be used on the lions along with The Sun to create lion Jerky that heals you.
White Album can freeze ocean so its quite op you can make tall castle of ice and let the genocide type stands do there work (yes Purple haze is extra op because you won't be going to be affected by virus and can throw bulbs out of castle weather reaport can rain frogs with full power and any other long range stand will work with full power)
Meanwhile have all the long range stands like Sex Pistols, Aerosmith, Heirophant Green, Emperor, Magician's Red, etc. Stay in and funny pew pew
You could use Made in Heaven to accelerate the Grateful dead or Puerple Haze effects I assume.
Don't forget about the best defending stan, C Moon
@@janmarcoperezbatres2203 made in heaven doesnt accelerate anything biological
"exponentionaly growing army of invisible zombie lions turned dinosaur" is not a sentence i thought i would hear today.
Another use of the MVP Weather Report is creating a strong air current lifting every lion up in the air to a point where the drop would kill them and then just letting them fall which means possibly killing every lion in one stupidly broken attack
Also, just... a blizzard. Lions generally live places that don't turn quite that frozen, and Weather Report can just do that. He could also probably accelerate global warming insanely if he were so inclined just to make it so that the lions ran out of energy to even move to find food, and would die of starvation while every other Stand stays close to White Album for protection.
@@theendersmirk5851 Yeah but thats boring
make pucci speed up time for his allies and they will take out the lions within a few seconds "Made In Heaven's speed is infinite according to the canon wikipedia"
You left out Wonder of You, he could sit in place and eat lunch ot smh while the lions die as they try to follow him also Weather Report and Catch the Rainbow would be a pretty cool combo, you should make a video about best stand combos
It can only target one person at a time. Sure, nothing's gonna stop it, but it's not gonna rack up kills as fast as Purple Haze for example.
@@tuluflulu Actually it can target more than 1 person but they'd be in order of priority eg when he had yasuho on top of his order, she was supposed to die first, followed by rai and then gappy. Tooru can control that order and also quickly switch that order to kill multiple lions at a time
@@tuluflulu No it doesn't it was at multiple places at the same time in the manga lol
@@FortressJoJo It was? I might have to reread it.
Two combos that come to mind are Speed King + Grateful Dead and Speed King + Magician’s Red
for the grateful dead problem, just have heaven's door write "fog only affects lions" on it and the battle becomes child's play. and weather report can raise the temperature so that the lions have a higher body temperature and the stand takes much less time.(the same things can be say for purple Haze)
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or white album
Actually this problem solves itself, this is a lion vs stand only battle, and in the grateful dead fight only the humans were aged, so stands are straight up immune to grateful dead aging
@@Mr_Tux794 yes, but i think the stand are physical entity in this match, because the Lion can see and touch they
I do not understand how can a stand age but they can change
My other, in my opinion, MVP stands:
-C-Moon: A stand who can manipulate gravity and send a ton of lions to the space like Kars? Very useful
-Over heaven: The fastest stand who can accelerate time into a new Big Bang? Pretty OP
-GER: Oh, come on! This stand is undefeatable, even a billion lions can kill him because he can cancel all attacks
-D4C love train: Not only has an imprenetable defence, also his fortune retribution can affect some of the lions that are in the battle
-Green day: A stand similar to purple haze, and better, because it only affects the flesh (and stands are spiritual, no-corporeal beings)
-Wonder of U: Similar to D4C love train, but with the calamity making untouchable the stand
And thats it, my personal MVPs stands
yeah i think you mean made in heaven
For green day the lion need to fall so if the battle it's on a plain it's completely useless
@@Agente189 Or Green Day needs to get higher.
@@roetemeteor I don't think they have plane or elicopter so it's completely useless
@@Agente189 but what if you cmoon it
0:35”ladies gentlemen and other”got me so dead bru😂😂😂😂
0:27
How?
@ ☠️you don’t get it