Twitch Streamers are Burning Out
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This video is an interesting commentary on Pokimane's recent video about taking a break from streaming and Ninja's recent clip that he was taking a break from streaming. I think both of these clips, especially Pokimane's new video, are instructive on the future of live streaming and what is happening in the livestreaming space.
Why are more top Twitch streamers taking breaks from Twitch? Why are more live streamers moving to UA-cam and other platforms? In this video we talk about some of the bigger changes that are happening on Twitch because of how livestreaming is setup. We talk about why streamers are quitting Twitch and the future of Twitch and livestreaming.
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This happens in all industries people have spent years in. They realize that they've been slogging through with their head down and ignoring the parts of the job they hate. Then they come back after a break that was long enough where they could "reset" and they realize what a crappy situation they're in. The only difference here is that most of these streamers can afford to stop and figure something else out while "normal people" have to go back to the soul draining job, often feeling more depressed than they were before the trip.
I agree lol. These streamers don’t know how good they have it. I wish I could just “take a break” and reset from my job.
Exactly well said, this is my comment bot who has been feeding off of my data than uses it to get top comments. Thats another theory, to keep people in the dark the majoriety of top comments aren't even real people but clones of them. Twitch view counts are laughable fake aswell but the streamer only needs a quarter of those viewers to get rich.
This. 100% this
24:30 I'm here. Burnout isn't only happening with just top streamers. I have a lot of friends being pressured to stream longer because they see all the top streamers streaming for almost just as long. It's pretty crazy to see.
You reference seeing this a lot in top streamers but it happens constantly in small to mid size as well but they don’t have the money to fall back on like these large streamers. It’s ramping up through the Twitch community on all levels. I’m glad this is being brought to light more and you speak on our options. ❤️
Just want you to know that I found your channel through this comment so it's cool that you decided to share your thoughts here. (probably valuable to know where random people come from and find you right?)
Hey Devin. Thank you for these deep dives. Appreciate the conversation. My husband is a Twitch Partner and made it by playing an RTS game called Company of Heroes 2 and if he does anything else, he doesn’t get the viewership and people are only asking about the game for the most part. It is draining on him as he has other interests and less time as a dad and business owner to stream.
I also think what you said about low fulfillment is hitting the nail on the head. So many people see their jobs as their identity and even more so, I would think, in the streaming world. It can easily become a place a streamer goes to feel better about themselves (when the community is great like my husband’s is) or to avoid the loneliness they feel in their lives. It is an alternate reality in many ways. People need in real life connection and community- we saw this with the pandemic. There has to be a balance of online and IRL life. I would go so far because I am a Christian that there is a lack of life giving spiritual connection to God as well. We are more than just a physical being- we are spiritual and emotional too.
My love goes out to all those resonating with this video. It is a hard industry in many ways. It just takes and takes. I hope those who are committing to being a creator are seeking Christ and community too.
Spirituality is not important to everyone, most are more logical. But a community is always nice and maybe even important for most people, but some people actually prefer to be by themselves most of the time.
@Adree I understand what you mean. I also go through the same problem when I search for Spiritually related content but at the same time, risk an unfulfilling career as a streamer on Twitch.
Take a risk, It would be interesting to see someone label themselves a Christian streamer and talk about these kind of issues. Or just have fun on stream but have that Christian perspective, it will be scary with less viewers at first but more fulfilling.
its the big joke about this type of thing, your audience only cares for one game or type of content but you as a creator find it less and less interesting to do. sounds like he has good support at home which is a great thing. many of these streamers apart to not have that.
@@abel5333 this was exactly what I was trying to do (have fun but label myself a Christian and be open to chat about different topics and share the Biblical perspective and encourage my chat), but my youngest had a sleep regression again and some other issues with her being on the spectrum and when that was settled back down and I wanted to start regularly streaming again, I was diagnosed with a brain tumor. Just had surgery 2 months ago and the surgeon was able to remove it. I’m grateful to say it was benign and I have only minor post op symptoms. This experience makes me think I have a greater purpose outside of teaching my children, but I also know this is my greatest calling. I find great joy in listening to and speaking encouragement into people. Life can be so dark- those experiences and feelings are real- but there is so much light too.
I recognized this early on when I started in streaming while listening & watching to what other streamers where doing. 7 years later I am still a small streamer, but still love streaming by avoiding these pitfalls. I play what I want, I don’t follow trends, and I had a life before & still do during my time streaming. I spend time with family, I enjoy other hobbies, etc.. Yes it comes at a cost of viewership & income but if you can’t enjoy yourself creativity, don’t take down time to recharge, it will always lead to burn out. This is in any field not just streaming. Rock on Streamers. ❤️🤘
EXACTLY... no matter what platform your on. If you dictate your content and streaming around finances... your eventually going to bottom out.. because you arent in it for the passion.
I love streaming but I do it as a hobby once a week, and I ban anybody who is terrible in the community. I will never make a living from it operating that way but I’m alright with that.
I love your content, Devin. I don’t understand this video, however. You say: “I am going to make a bold claim here-I don’t think the future of livestreamers is sustainable.”
This is not bold at all. In fact, to any livestreamer, it is obvious. Livestreamers are like NFL running backs. We sign up to do an unhealthy job to hopefully get paid the 3-5 years that we are able to last. You make it seem as if this video is monumental, when it is elementary. The way you built this video up in the beginning-the “boldness” of your claim-excited me in the hopes of hearing something that was not obvious. I watched every minute of this video, and I don’t see why you thought the information she was saying was shocking or bold at all.
Having said that, I am a member of your Patreon and, again, I absolutely love your content. Thank you so much for taking your time to share all of the knowledge you have in these matters. I am truly grateful.
i'm not a creator, but i'm almost 30 now, and i'm starting to get to the same point of "creative drought" as is discussed in the video. Thanks for showing you care about your community, other creators communities and creators themselves. 24 minute gang reporting in!
I’m like 34 and have never felt very creative. And I try so hard and end up with just blanks. It’s so frustrating. Like I WANT to create, but got nothing. I don’t know how people fuel their creativity, I’m rather envious.
Great video, very comprehensive! I like how you typed notes in the Notepad (I still do that sometimes as well lol)
Thanks for the video as always Devin, just signed up to Novo!
24 min in fam where you at?! So as a Manga/Anime channel myself the "pettiness" and arguments people have in the medium as you can imagine are vast and wide. I'll be 34 in Oct and I passionately love the medium to try and make it a full time career on YT, but I constantly roll my eyes at how silly people bicker or get excited about the "drama" within it.
I made it 24 minutes in and I want you to know you helped me solidify my thoughts and reasons why I don't want to stream. I suppose they could just be excuses for me because I wasn't doing well in the space anyway, but I don't want to go down the streamer path and go through the same things that they do to keep a following. Thank you for putting words to my amorphous feelings.
Streamers trade away their most valuable asset (time) for a paycheck almost 24/7. Good for them, but they're not getting any younger, and they know it.
Isn't that everybody? Lol
@@blingximus Not if you're a business owner, which they technically are. Except their business requires almost permanent attendance. If they're exclusively streaming, the stock they build is themselves (their name, image, influence, etc) which requires constant maintenance.
@@BatteryAz1z you think business owners don't use their time to make money?
I understand your point about streamers actually being the brand and primary draw for income.
But everyone uses their time for income to varying degrees.
@@blingximus Of course, but my point is that with a regular business, it should be able to run itself to some degree so the founder/CEO can take his/her time to invest, expand, branch out, or even retire on a consistent income stream. None of these things are true for streamers, if streaming is all they do. It's like being the owner of a grocery store while being the only employee to man the cash register. I realize Poki and others also have decent sized UA-cam channels, merch, etc, but I imagine these income streams are highly dependent on the streamer being active and relevant in the first place.
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24 minute crew! Thanks Devin! I took some notes to process for later. Great stuff!
Hi, hit the callout. This is the first video I've seen from you and I subscribed as well! Keep up the good work. I'm a Software Engineer and really like your content. I'm curious about the future of the content space, as I have the option to potentially work on some of this space (TikTok, IG, and Patreon)
I've been getting the same McDonalds ad for like 3-4 days on a streamer I watch, and no other ads ever. Not sure if it's the lack of ads or if so many streams are running ads its all that's left. Very strange.
24 mins and staying till the end brother! And as soon as I’m done renovating this house I can afford the patreon and I’ll be in there as well my dude. Just have to keep my priorities in check at the moment. That being said, I appreciate all your videos and wish I could support. Thank you!!
Always listen to this while I'm working, editing, making thumbnails and I love it! You're super informative and explain details of the industry really well. Great video Devin!
24 mins in, every video you put up is interesting and informative even if im not particularly interested in the topic all the time. This one specifically was very good, twitchs day of reckoning looms closer, people cant keep it up any more while only being live. If they pushed clips and encouraged produced videos and made a space for it on twitch, I think it would help a lot. Thanks for the insight devin, if you ever want to go live here on youtube and play some games or just chat im sure many people would come hang with you :)
Woah thanks for the likes people I don't comment often and I think this is the most engagement I've gotten on UA-cam soo noice ✌️
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24 minute mark checking in. Really appreciate the deep dive!
Oh shit just got to the part where you talked about Path of Exile. That's awesome
I always make it to the end and your time callouts but I never comment.
Keep up the great work Devin. I’m considering looking up Novo. I’m a Barber on YT almost 10K subs but I want to transition to gaming.
24 mins in I'm still here. Fascinating and makes total sense. Off to check out Patreon. Glad I watched the convo you dropped some knowledge on with Miz and Poki the other day.
Should also add been doing tech videos on UA-cam and slots on this channel for 9 years. Burning out here too. Still a land grab here aswell.
UA-cam will push active content creators. I do a lot of research on UA-cam golf and see them burn out tyring to keep up with vlog grind.
Love your videos Devin! 26 min in, talking about Twitch in a bind. Surely the solution to this is Twitch developing a VOD solution which would enable them to have ads running 24/7?
I know this is something which Harris Heller pitched to Twitch like 2 years ago and they have absolutely slept on it.
I’m a twitch streamer myself, and my guess is within 2 years we’ll all be streaming on UA-cam.
Totally understand the clicking the live button feeling haha It got so bad one time that I had to train myself to just click it as fast as possible right when I sit down leaving no time to even think about it. Thanks for the vid!
24 min gang lets goo. But seriously knowing the ins and outs of gaming and content creation is a great way to be able to know who a good creator to watch and support. I watch who I like but it’s really interesting to see how they put into practice or do some of the stuff you talk about.
🌹Thank you for making this video. I've actually seen this even on the lower levels. Where people are seriously going , I need more than streaming. Which is meaning not that streaming not good enough, but they want a life beyond the screen. I have to say I was happy to my move to YT over a year ago where I could do my videos and still had time for family and not having to push everything to the side just to be "live." Not saying YT isn't hard it is , but just in a different way. 😎 I also find it intresting you bring up the high school drama aspect. When I did get into twitch my husband that is a bit older than me was like " you know just a big old high school popularity contest with narssistic people right?" and at the time I just kind of blinked and ignored lol.
24 minutes into the video , planning to watch to the end. For me this is intresting.🙂
As a small content creator watching videos like this (great vid, liked and watched in full btw) I started on youtube. Then started multistreaming to YT and Twitch.
After getting more viewers on twitch i became partner and moved to twitch fully.
However now that viewership has dropped again (game hype died down) I feel like I should go back to YT after watching vids like this and because of the discoverability of YT and possible future of twitch.
I feel stressed and not sure how to proceed as family duties also mean I can't stream daily or for super large hours.
i really never post/comment on any video, content, clip on any platform. but, I just wanted to take the time and say that your videos, and your channel, is one of the most worthwhile stuff to watch. although, im not too interested in the inner circle of content creators, its rare to see a channel/creator that is well informed and educated about the topic he/she takes on. props to ya devin. keep on the keepin' on! and thanks for all the content!
Sorry for so many comments 😅 but clicking to "go live" button became a battle between my body and my brain. I kept telling myself I wanted to, or I needed to, but my body literally wouldn't let me. I would be overrun by anxiety, and other feelings that would keep me from going live. My body was just done.
Ooo I found the 24 minutes thing. Discovered your channel the other day, lots of interesting content for me to consume. Thanks. :)
I view it similar to Maslow's Hierarchy of needs. At first, you're doing everything you can to get viewership, partnership, etc. Once you achieve those things and can afford to not be subsistence farming basically, then you allow yourself to get out of fight or flight mode. You allow yourself to become a more evolved human. What you want to be and would be, should you have had those things from the beginning. I have tremendous empathy toward content creators, despite not being one. It's a tough "job". Devin, you do a wonderful job of explaining things to the masses. Kudos. (Of course I made it at least 24 minutes in - I did finish it. :D)
great seeing some content from you. used to see you all the time on trains podcast and i enjoyed your insight there. love the video
35:40 i really respect your decision to leave streaming on twitch. but we weren't hoping you to leave streaming as a whole. I love your content. hope you come back to streaming one day or have even longer videos.
I think as many streamers grow more mature, the big question of “What is it all for?” may weigh more heavily. I wish them well and that, when the time comes, they figure out a helpful/meaningful exit from streaming.
Edit: Obvious 24-minute club member
I guess the millions of dollars, luxury living and not having to worry if you can afford food/bills isnt enough.....I'd suffer a little to be a popular streamer and do the grind to make the bag, retire early and enjoy the millions I made off talking/playing games in front of people. Easy tradeoff compared to my 9/5 that pays me an average pay and will have to grind out for the rest of my life to hopefully retire.
@@NateDoesLife that's the whole point, when you make it to that stage, you probably dont want to keep doing it forever. Most big steamers are probably looking for retirement strategies
@@NateDoesLife i think something to note is the amount of streamers that can get these very lucrative exclusivity deals is the very top .001% of streamers. Maybe less than 100 worldwide. The Tiger Woods, Ronaldo, or Lebron James of the streaming/gaming industry. Most big streamers got to where they are by being ultra consistent & streaming tens of thousands of hours. If you were better at what you do than anybody else in the world, more than likey you wouldn't be (just) getting average pay.
@@paradox_4094 My point being that they shouldn't complain about it. I wont lose a wink of sleep over their "suffering" knowing that they could literally walk away tomorrow from streaming and never have to work again for the rest of their life and be perfectly fine. What is their to bitch about. If I did that at my job I would be fucked for the rest of my life. Regardless of it they are the best (and thats HIGHLY arguable in favor of they got lucky not that they are good at streaming if there is such a thing).
They choose to continue and suffer and make these "im burned out videos" or "I took a break because" and its dumb. If your making millions and suffering THAT much then just retire and call it a life, no one is forcing them to stay in these "High stress" jobs they hold. They CHOOSE to stay.
It'd be like if I complained about how shitty my job is, everyone would tell me to look for a new one.
@Fir3 Eater You comment makes no sense to my original point. My point is that they make ENOUGH to just walk away from their problem of "burnout" and not have to worry for the rest of their life. So why do they need to publicly complain or even say their is such a thing as burnout. If its that bad then just walk away from it, they have the money and made it to the point they can do that.
And just a heads up, your average person wont ever make 30k a month.......most are lucky to make 50k/60k a YEAR.
Made it to the special call out. My man, your 'deep dives'/analysis of what's transpiring in the realm of streaming is fascinating. I always look forward to the next video.
24 minute gang!
At the start of the pandemic I moved into probably the top 10% of earners on Twitch. Streamed 4 times a week while also working full time, putting content on UA-cam/TikTok, and balancing family life. Exhausting is an understatement.
Now I don't stream or make content at all. 2 years of it burnt me out completely, and though I miss it, I'm happier today not stressing about going ng live or editing clips.
Great video Devin!
24 mins in. I agree with the point on clips. There is major opportunity there for not only discoverability but also for incentivizing users to explore offline pages. I do also agree that it is unhealthy to maintain the drama focus on content creation. I do not know if I agree with some of the other sentiments but it was a good topic and interesting video overall.
24 minute gang! I always watch your videos full length. Very interesting to hear your insight and perspective on these kinds of topics and other relevant content.
24 minutes gang! Certainly a relevant topic in this space, a lot of top creators put in insane hours on twitch. There is also the feeling that streamers won't stay relevant if they take a longer break, which I have seen being communicated by some. Usually they are fine though even if they take a break.
24 minutes into a Devin Deep Dive and going to share!! Thankz my dude for putting out yer insightful content!! Spect! 🤘🏻
So shitty that someone would feign mental distress and make it seem like they are burnt out just for an announcement a few days later. Its absolutely disgusting that it was done this way... what's worse is that it immediately followed Pokimane's actual heartfelt video on needing a break.
Excellent insight and analysis! Cheers.
Great video! Just checked out nexus as well. Thanks for sharing
i feel like back in the early days content creators had more fun streaming but now its just becoming so stressful for them
I love the mid video shoutouts. Love your content and hearing some insight on the fun parts of the media life
24 MINS IN! Streamers have been tlaking about this for a long time honestly. On podcasts and in communities for years. Its just that its only coming to the forefront because a huge streamer is talking about it and it feels "important" now.
I think a lot of the failings that come from orgs like Twitch and advertising agencies is not consulting with mental health professionals about burnout and the ethos of twitch. It would be a good time for companies to start to invest more in this.
Always great videos Devin!
Made it to & beyond 24 minutes. Love these vids as it helps me w/ the mindset of what it takes to try to grow.
The Act Man had adressed what a lot of these streamers do and why they do it after dr disrespect had given his insight about halo infinite. He said a lot of these streamers are too afraid to try something else from fear of losing their audience and their steady income. He hit the nail on that one.
I got twenty three minutes into this Devin Nash video and couldn't go any further without a drama update on my favorite streamers! J/K I made the 24m call to action point (and finished the video) Another great analysis and explanation.
Made it to the 24 min super double secret shout-out. I'd add that doctors in residency fit that overworked, burnt-out lifestyle you mentioned. 70+ hour weeks hustling around on the front lines of healthcare is no joke and is usually not at all rewarding.
I've watched the last few videos with the 24min shoutout, but first time commenting.
This spoke to me. I've always been interested in streaming and content creation, you're channel has provided amazing insights to it. And while I wasn't expecting anything massive, very early I recognised that I would only do it as long as it was fun, money wise I'm already making very comfortable money with my every day job.
Just the thought of how much work is required to get to the top 0.1%, and maintain it, was tiring, so I just kept everything low key while it was fun, and when it stopped being fun I just stopped.
Thanks for the content Devin, always informative and enjoyable to watch.
I agree sometimes I get anxiety just looking at the hit live button. Even just doing it part time for years on and off.
24min in. I have found myself wanting longer form videos across all the content I watch. 5-10mins doesnt get me through a work shift or something I'm idly doing haha
24 min in, found your channel last week and really enjoy your knowledge of the online space!
Hey Devin. October 13 2022 will be the 2 year anniversary of your OTK video. I think a update video on the org would be super cool because OTK has grown a lot sense 2020
Appreciate the content and insight dude!
I am absolutely 24 minutes in. I haven't done nearly as much in the field as you have but I've always been really interested in the idea of UA-cam/Twitch because of the ability for random people to create content for anyone in the world to have access to and to get the "more mature" perspective that you give to the industry is awesome for a 39 year old!
Stayed for the whole thing, always nice to see these kinds of deep dives
Again... I hit a point I thought your video was so much longer and you called us out! Love you man, keep up the deep dives.
21:03 I turned red laughing because devin called it and impersonated that character so perfectly, 20 minutes into the video we aren't about the beef, we like appetizers perhaps, a little wine, some mixed nuts and possibly avocado with a hint of lemon~
24:ish I definitely want to note that I binge these videos in waves but I don't even think about cutting them off; There's far too much insight into the organized and clear cut points with some fun mixed in to give me the immersion of both taking in tons of information and getting hit with the power of the notepad, the holy brail hahaha. I sometimes think "Oh The batman (or various long movies) is over 2 hours....hmmm" and I hesitate to watch it right then and there, but Devin Nash videos, I have to absorb them in their entirety, I don't care if they're 4 hours long, I'll re-schedule the rest of my activities during the day to fit these videos hahaha. One random note, Devin is secretly a master impersonator, they're always cracking me up and it hits home pretty much every time. Also, I'm not using that lightly, I love doing impersonations so I feel right at home with some of the funny characters you whip out to illustrate one of your topics or points.
Quality as always Devin. Keep it up.
Love these videos Devin. Keep them coming
I mentioned on Poki’s video it was refreshing to see a big creator talk about the issues with streaming. Likes of Rae and Poki I’ve always thought they probably enjoyed streaming more when they had lower numbers watching, Rae has mentioned it a few times in the past. The pressure a bigger audience brings particularly even more with female streamers. Diversifying in wider media like Rae and Poki are doing is also a good example of moving away from streaming. Certainly interesting to see
awesome video, Devin!
Thank you for shining some light on this issue.
I started streaming on Twitch over a year and a half ago. Being 30 now, I never had this urge to have this Twitch or YT drama on my channel.
Most of my viewers that been here for quite some time, or even from the beginning of being an Affiliate, are my age or older, have a kid at home etc.
Yes, I might end up having more viewers by reacting to this shit, but most of my viewers actually don't care about that drama, or don't even know the guys involved. They're here for the good vibes, chill talks and some raging, here and there. Also, since I have such a wide array of interests when it comes to games, it's hard to keep certain viewers here.
I can play "Call of Duty 1" on one day, a "Naruto" mobile game on the 2nd, "Trackmania" on the 3rd and "Detroit Become Human" on the 4th. Some of my viewers weren't even born when CoD 1 came out.
I would call it a more mature environment, without the little problems one dealt with as a kid.
But I don't want to change that. I know that makes it so much more unlikely to "make it" on this platform, but all I can do is keep grinding.
I enjoy watching your content especially this video! Thank you so much for giving your insight on this topic and yes I have watch all of it from start to finish! The grindset of streaming can be exhausting after you stream long hours especially doing what you don't want to do. To mitigate burnout just enjoy what you like to do or try new things and fuck following the trend/drama even if it cost some viewership. I'd rather produce content that I love to post with less viewership than producing content that follows the trend with more viewership!
Love your videos, length is splendid
Honestly only about half of your videos actually interest me, in terms of the topic or who's involved but I still watch them all the way through because its so rare to get such an indepth and professional take on any topic that its just worth watching.
24mins in brother, and loving it. PoE streamer myself, so definitely curious to hear the Leverage aspect of things. Insight on the industry in general just helps keep my own head on a swivel so appreciate it thank you!
I love your deep dives! I have ADHD and it’s rare for a long video to hold my attention like yours do🤗
24 Minutes! Again.. great analysis and just interesting insight into the world of streaming and the baggage it carries.
24 Minutes Call Out Time ^.^ Thanks for the video. It's so important to bring light upon topics like this. People spend all this time into an exciting career or a relevant career and end up missing out on life and burning out.
24 minutes in. As I grew older I have started to enjoy longer in depth content more and more, therefore i always love watching your videos that are both long and goes in depth about the topics you talk about!
I agree with almost everything you said, but if Twitch doesn't value subs and bits as highly as ADS, then why do they offer turbo at all? One would think they'd do away with that if ads are just so infinitely more profitable.
24 mins, This is just so interesting! thank you very much for your hard work!
Great video and content as always! I love that you talk about this side of content creation and Twitch. Let’s people know there more out there for us.
Here from the 24 minutes callout and yes you should make the videos longer. I really enjoy the content you produce and do think it is meaningful and you are doing a wonderful job. Thank you for always making good content.
Burnout is REAL and it is affecting everyone... not just big streamers. I think we are gonna see a lot of people moving and changing their content approach
i realy loved this video, its nice seeing your prespective.
Amazing and informative video Devin,
When you said about the up and coming streamers being Evil, reminds me of the description of Evil in DnD.
Evil =
Someone who will do what ever it takes to get what they want.
Someone who doesn't mind if others get hurt when they pursue their own agendas.
24 minutes in and I can finally comment. I normally listen while driving or on my TV so in the past i can't comment during the call out. Gotta say I'm glad these points are being brought up. Thank you for talking about it.
Thank you for the insight as always Devin 👍🔥 I hope I can one day reach a % of these streamers but I believe if you do it right you can leverage yourself by diversifying correctly so you don't have to stream 24/7. For example doing UA-cam videos, investing your money to create passive income, diversifying on other platforms with long term content
Love the content my dude 24 minz and whole vid.
I love this stuff 24 mins of great info. My son and I use to stream he thinks it’s amazing and wants a career. I show him this so he understands the pressure we only do VODs on YT because he is young and it’s less stress to have fun together.
Die a hero or live long enough to become the villain. I appreciate the recent talk youu had with Destiny. People tend to stay in their own bubbles, but Twitch feels like a high school clique. Utube algorithm can punish you for time off, but at least you could pre schedule video releases or do community posts.
A shame GreekGodX is going off the deep end. He was too lol bro for me, but made some people genuinely happy. Super wholesome interactions with Sweet Anita. Just because his method worked for him, doesn't give him the right to shame people for not instantly trying to become Hercules.
24 min message received over, continuing march. Would totally watch longer vids, but that could be DevinStream withdrawal syndrome.
24 minute club! Interesting as always, thanks for your takes and insight Devin 👍
I think a new generation of top streamers will be coming now since og streamers are slowly fading out
is that nat? 😂 there will always be new blood. a new generation thirsty for success. i know retailers (for example) are more than happy to churn through season after season of fresh meat, but how long can this business model hold out?
Why doesn't Twitch add a proper VoD library with a search filter for it?
Still watching to end. You’re right on. I always wondered when streamers have down time for hobbies-lol.
24 mins in. 💪 If I were to sign up to it would be for a talk show I'm producing. We're still too small but if let's say CUT or First We Fest were to sign up... Would Novo be able to find sponsors for shows?
Thanks for the all info!
24 min into the video. Made it and still enjoying, thanks for posting
Would love to see you do a follow up interview with MoonMoon. Would love to hear his take on the future of Twitch and streaming as a whole
I have been streaming for over 3 years now on twitch. And managed to get around 20 viewer per stream in the past while grinding Super Mario Maker 2 at some time. When I decided to give up of Super Mario maker 2 and start streaming anything I want. my viewership dropped to average of 3. its frustating but I understand that people dont want to watch me playing other games, the grinding is just anoying and not worth it.
UA-cam you can make a quick video, post it, and it can live on forever. Rewatchability is there. On twitch, you end stream... nothing really happens until the start of the next one. Overall it is not sustainable for the average person.
I'm wondering if the designated clips system isn't built because they think it would take the audience away from the long form live streams. People would just scroll through clips instead? Just a thought I had.
I think a different way of framing the issue here is probably more simplistic than most want to give credit for but...
In general, when blowing up in content-creation/brand-establishment, the "Artists/Talent" themselves individually will find it an essential to long-hour stream, and inturn, let the money pay to help pull, edit, upload, etc the vods for YT, etc... so putting in long hours streaming, isn't just rather necessary, but also fun, rejuvenating, etc., because uncontrollably positive growth in so many ways has a life of its own.
However when the status is already there with an ability to maintain high levels of branding/sponsorships/etc... then putting in the time to stream isn't really necessary or essential anymore... and often times gets in the way of real life stuff.
I think DN does a good job saying he isn't label tossing the word Narcissist around for anyone who does get "big" and just so happens to decide against taking a break from streaming... but it has to be about something that can meaningly "fulfill/replace" that growth factor.
I think ultimately the person must decide within themselves to continue streaming for more than just the money though... if that's all it ends up boiling down to, then a break really does seem like the psychological best practice option.
Always watching the whole video! Including the 24 min secret callout
(which, ofcourse, isn't secret anymore since I'm now commenting. shit.)
24 mins in, felt like 5 min. We can start making these secret call outs a bit longer in. :)
Thanks for yet again a great video!!!
ofc we made it to 24minutes in, i hope this big brain arc goes well. been following your stuff since like the d&d and destiny collabs
24 min deep. always enjoy your perspective on current/future trends
Feel free to call me an idiot, but i believe there is a huge difference between content creation and video game streaming. And thus the creator/streamer should have contract option for one or the other per fulfilment reqs. based on what they want to do.
The big down side of live streaming as a career is there is 0 DOWN TIME. If you want to make money you need to be on 100% and really even if you have a UA-cam and so on line the time you spend streaming would likely be used better building a UA-cam thing
Good luck with your channels and streams guys! Hope you have a good journey
Made it to 24 minutes, might as well finish the rest!