US Army Combat Vet Reacts to The Engoodening of No Man's Sky by Internet Historian (Part 2)
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Hello Games' No Man's Sky might be the comeback story of the year, maybe of the decade. Join me as we look at Internet Historian's coverage of this event.
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12:00 I think their reason for declining was, that they didn't want to get too dependent to a big corp
remember from Part 1? Sean started his own company because the studio he worked at got absorbed into EA
Yea, because then when big daddy Sony says to do something that might go against the original vision of the game they don't have much choice.
Yeah, Paul. Just because it's a nothing tax write-off to Sony doesn't mean they can't use it to get their hooks in even further. You don't want the publisher to be able to interfere with how your office runs.
This is why so many games have cliche battle royal modes and zombie modes. Because some corporate bigwig comes along and just wants to do what the other successful games are doing for profit motive not realising that by doing that they ruin an otherwise unique experience that would sell better.
It's the same reason he sold his house as opposed to seeking banks or venture capitalists. Sean made sure he wasn't beholden to anyone.
There are always strings attached, especially when you can't see the strings.
That the overal rating for No Man's Sky has gone from Mixed to Mostly Positive, it has been well earnt.
One of the few true redemption stories
Mostly NEGATIVE to Mostly Positive. It's absolutely insane.
yeah
@@therandomartist3201 indeed
Dont forget, that to this day, every single content update the game has ever gotten was free. No microtransactions. No paid DLCs. Nothing. You buy the game, you get EVERYTHING.
I know internet historian talks about that in the video, but i think it needs a ton of emphasis
Indeed that is HUGE! I literally didn't care about the game at all untill I learned about that. Well... that and then I learned about everything else they did right!
Facts.
5:00 Some people don't like debt. Even if it's debt that can be defaulted, it'd still ruin years of work because your business is gone.
I'm with HelloGames and Sean here. Build on your own back, know what you might lose, _without_ being chained to consequences decided by other people.
And also I'm pretty sure that in some countries (maybe not the UK) it is not allowed to get a loan from multiple banks. Not sure though so don't quote me on that.
True, same reason they didn't want Sony's offer. They didn't wanna be attached to some corpo.
41:40 I think the interpreter is for the live audience during the talk/stream since doing subtitles on the fly isn't really possible afaik
Good point, also since automated CC systems require a clear speaking voice, having a human being able to translate for Sean who ends up stuttering and stumbling on his own works will be able to communicate more effectively than the automated system.
It's like being annoyed that there are Spanish channels. It's not 1-1 but it's the same kind of thought process.
It is possible to write subtitles live, I've seen it on a few presidential announcements. But it requires a special software with built in shorthand and the writer has to distillate the sentences to give the essential. At the end of the day, an interpreter is a good solution for a live audience.
@@vianneyb.8776 yeah afaik it requires a stenographer and they are in short supply since most of them are employed in courts and such
And as a side note replaced sign language with Spanish, Japanese, or another language. Saying to It is a language and so that is their form of subtitles. Just because you can read doesn't discredit it. Who needs a German translator? He read English can't he? Not a shot but it is a real irritation to many of the deaf community and sadly a common line said.
"'Is it extortion?' Basically."
I was really waiting on the 'but _____' after what you said. Then I realized that you're right, there's nothing more to it.
@drateR yaG no
@drateR yaG This right here, is how you end up on an FBI watch list (or whatever your equivalent is)
Thanks for being the example of stupidity that we can all learn from, at a distance.
@drateR yaG glowing
@drateR yaG bruh hol up lol, that's a bit too much.
how about we compromise and send sky tv a glitter bomb in the mail
I remember how excited Shaun Murry was when he announced the average steam rating had gone from bad to mixed. He posted.
"WE MIXED NOW BOYS!"
41:40 the interpreter is for the Live audience and the people watching the livestream, you can tell it's on a live stage and the footage was probably from the livestream itself, having an interpreter means they don't need to go back and add it the captions and make sure it matches up right at the same time. making the livestream accessible without having to fuck around behind the scenes and making it possible to just upload it immedeately and be done.
I’m taking the opportunity to call this Documentary “Sean Murray vs the World”
I think that the game designers didn't want too go through the main companies giving them money during the flood was that they wanted to remain independent until they where forced too accept money to hemraging money through lawsuits. They left main stream gaming companies to do this after all.
16:14 The next prompt told how HG denying the help actually kept the company together
Nooo he didn't watch the erotic fanfiction part
thank god
"Combat Veteran" this man knows how to hurt people...
which explains this video's intro, holy fuck, that pun dealt heavy psychic damage xD
Emotionaaal Daaamage?
41:00 - Often times you'll see those interpreters at live events. They're there less for the video and more for the live broadcast and audience there in person. Situations where subtitles are often pretty limited. They're there for a reason though. Not just randomly.
about sony offer, usually such things come at a price, i can bet my ass of, that sony wanted ether temporary exclusive rights for NMS, or a profit share that wold mean "you make your game, but thanks to that contract you can't stop working for us because you don't get anything from sales"
Aw man, you said you loved a come back story but you kissed he BEST story right at the end.
I’m not sure if that was a pun or a typo but it makes the comment even better lol
With regards to sign language, completely get where you are coming from. But this is also done live for deaf people in the crowds. It is honestly a really great thing inclusivity wise because instead of a hilariously bad live-S2T they also get to look at a person expressing body language in addition. Not deaf myself but it's something I'd imagine really appreciating.
Yea the live event makes perfect sense
The Internet Historian is known to include famous clips with fake sign interpretation sometimes, often with people who do not know sign language. There is a chance the sign interpreter is telling you how fat your mom is.
Another “fun fact” about the worlds’ Deaf population: as a group, it isn’t uncommon to possess the ability to read LIPS well enough to keep up with a conversation. Closed Captions are always great tho.
ASL isn’t particularly hard, just counterintuitive (to me, but I can hear.).
That’s something I gotta say man, I might be disability free, but those that were born deaf, blind, missing limbs, etc. y’all are fucking troopers in my eyes.
@Man with hairbecause I’ve basically taken being normal for granted. People with disabilities like deafness and blindness have to many struggles that have to go through in life that I don’t. I don’t have to worry about falling off the curb and smashing my face because I can see. I have nothing but respect for those that can navigate the world like I can yet can’t. Same with deafness. Deaf folk who drive won’t hear horns or trains and even just walking around they have to be more careful than I would have to be. That’s why I think they’re troopers. They just continue to march through life, tackling the obstacles they have to go through in life due to their disability. I won’t let no one disrespect the differently abled
@Robotfromouterfuckingspace differently abled => difabled
One of the best leaders I ever served under was a 25 year old guy who never asked anything of anyone that he wasn't willing to do himself.
He had the respect of people in their 60's for that simple undeniable fact. He's a high performance machine.
If you met him you wouldn't know it though, just an energetic young man who's optimistic.
This combat veteran knows what happened to the EA
Gamers are probably the most aware consumers ever, facing the most corrupt type of journalists ever. No Man's Sky is a rare instance where journalists succeeded in deceiving them.
The scary thing is seeing their underhanded tactics appear elsewhere
Gamers deliberate more before a $60 video game purchase, than some people before buying a car
this is a joke right? I don't know how many projects got a lot of money and then they were just poop when launched. Cyberpunk?
@@DenerWitt Broken, but not terrible, could be better, but it could be worse.
@@zgSH4DOW This is completely false. The amount of people who pre-order at the first trailer of a game is astounding. They set up time off months in advance for a game, then break down if it isn’t what they expected. Not to mention the amount of people I’ve seen base their purchase solely off of a single source.
Hey Paul, I recomend checking out Any Poll's a Goal by Internet Historian
I came here just to have fun... I ended learning about personal financial decisions, economy and how bankrupt works...
I'm just 17 years old, I'm latin, in my culture people with more than 20 years still lives with their parents and it's normal, so I'm far from needing all of this knowledge but anyways... I ended getting something more much better and enjoyable that what I was searching for.
PR costs money, and also would syphon off precious time of developement.
Hello Games did the right thing to not let Sony help them with the game. I've seen how this works. They'll slowly take over, until its not even your game anymore.
Best Redemption Arc in anime history
Seriously after IH video, Hello games released 10+ new updates with even more amazing shit
-Frontier settlements/towns creation and management
-Abbandoned space stations/freighters in space infested by alien that works like a random dungeon
-Giant Mechsuit
-Advanced animal companion systeme with gear and weapons
-Graphical overhaul
-Expeditions: like Seasons in diablo 3 or leagues in POE
-Space anomalies and Points of interests
-Better combat
And there's a ton i forgot.
The Sign Language interpreter is there for the live event - they just include it in the video. That way they don't have to pay someone to write subtitles....
I Don’t know why it even bothering him
@@oh_hershy629 Well he has a point IF the interpreter was there for the video SPECIFICALLY. But in this case, she was there for the live event and is just included in the video.
The lady doing sign language is what's know as an interpreter. She's there for the people that are deaf in the live audience and the people at home if this was streamed where sub titles might not be possible. I've seen it before during news conferences before and concerts and performances I've worked at.
Says he's a government worker, but he teaches us about scams and says don't get greedy, he's one of the good guys
If a corporation tries to offer you help, there are ALWAYS strings attached to it. No large corporation ever acts out of the goodness of their heart.
Nah, you're right and it's a similar setup in the UK. The best move is usually to register the company as a limited liability, because as a sole trader if the company goes down it takes you with it.
Too bad Hello Games is LTD and not LLC.
I say more Internet Historian. If I had to give a recommendation, I'd say check out "The Cost of Concordia". I'm really interested in your take on that LITERAL shipwreck.
More Internet Historian content is always good, but I would particularly recommend his Balloon Boy video and an accompanying Q&A. Should be very interesting to you.
Oh God. My blood boiled after watching the Q&A
Since the release of this Internet Historian video back in 2019, they've since released some 12 major updates.
2-4 are community made by the looks of it.
Damn its really had that many since then? I only just got the game recently, and its so hard for me to tell what was added in updates, and when, because theres been so many.
My god that's so many updates
Best redemption Arc.
Ski free was great. that yeti though it was so powerful it could defeat god
Wait, was it Ski Free? I remember that gameplay loop of skiing and sometimes a Yeti would chase you and eat you...
Damn, that brings back memories.
And most people don't know there was a key to ski faster so they think it's impossible to get away from the yeti
Sean also seems far more confident and comfortable with himself now.
Nooo, the best part of the video is gone
Pretty sure the ASL lady was for the people at the conference. Idk why she was on the video, though.
Because being mute doesn't mean you can't use videos or TV because you're not deaf?
Pretty sure that sign language translator is fake and may also have been edited in by internet historian.
i love the tangents you go on when reacting to these types of videos,
Honestly, No Man's Sky and FF14 are two of the best stories in all of videogame history. It's so, *so* precious to see a good faith effort to live up to what their 1.0s failed at, and redeem themselves through hard work. And it's especially nice to see the playerbases rewarding them for doing so. It tells us that fucking up with your launch doesn't have to be the end of the story - you can, if you dare, redeem yourself completely and show us that you're sorry with your actions, and when you do, the game audiences will always forgive you.
But it's gaming in the early 2000's the likely hood of a loan is non-existent
2010 isn't the early 2000s, my dude.
sometimes when i watching Paul reaction video feels like watching lawyer or politicians reaction which mostly lost the point narrator try to tell, and just focus on profit. lol
Came here to appreciate this amazing video with and learned a LOT ! Also, loved what you talked about leadership. Thanks !
A few days ago they released “Emergence” (aka expedition 4) expeditions in No Man’s Sky are multiplayer exploration/contribution events which provide unique rewards for those who play them
I'm always happy to see more reactions to my favorite creators, but it annoys the fuck out of me that he keeps cutting off the end of videos on a regular basis because he just assumed they're over. There's still like, 5 minutes to the video that he's just skipping
Was it the Sean Murray fanfiction?
If so... I don't think he *needed* to see that.
@@Mortal2064 It absolutely was
@@JC_SoullessI for one thank the heavens that he didn't go through that part, and if you actually wanted him to see that part then go to hell
@@your_fathers but its funny.
well dude, what I though was gonna be a regular reaction video turned into nigh 2 hours of entertainment, but also education, youve more than earned my sub, and I will definately come back for more. good on ya mate
Absolutely loved watching this video! I'd love to see you react to more of SsethTzeentach's reviews, I'd reccomend his video on Vampire Masquerade: Bloodlines. Also I'd love to see you react to Fawful's Minion's Nostalgic Terrors with Halloween coming up and I think you'd seriously love him as a content creator just like how you love Internet Historian and RussianBadger!
This.
The ASL bit was from a live broadcast at GDC, they don't have subtitles on their live broadcasts..
And deaf people don't have a good literacy rate
And having to read subtitles suck, you'd rather hear the person talking.
I'd imagine it would be the same for deaf people. Having to read subtitles suck, you'd rather have someone sign language.
Apparently there's a lot of inflection given in sign language.
Amazing video, anything by internet historian is instant good times.
I'm still legit wanting this game now
It’s a good game imho, and its fairly easy to get it on sale from Steam. I think I got it for like $12 or so & it has insane replay value.
If ya like space/sci-fi/exploration/flight sim games, its worth it if you have a few spare dollars.
I enjoy NMS. I finally gave it a chance earlier this year, and it was right around the time Elite Dangerous was starting to go to hell, so the timing couldn't have been better.
And just a side note: It's a good thing Sean paid for the Joe Danger product by selling his house as opposed to going into debt. It's because of this that they could afford to make No Man's Sky, and it's also the reason they've been able to afford to keep working on it post launch without adding micro-transactions. They never went into debt to anyone, so they were able to use much larger portions of resources doing what they thought was right, instead of being beholden to share holders who would've had them take the money and run.
A lot of EU and EU adjacent countries have some sort of live sign language interpreters for many TV channels, especially for news channels. It’s rarer for entertainment channels but they’re still there. My best guess is that that segment was aired in the UK somewhere
Source: Prior US service member who was stationed mostly in Europe
As someone who knows quite a few deaf people, its hard to get subtitles on something that is Live audience.
When do you think you will be reacting to the Tf2 comic dubs?
As someone who plays No Man's Sky, I can say that after 9 MAJOR updates to overall gameplay, they have more than redeemed themselves.
Watching reactions to this video and I’m seriously thinking of getting it now
@@Chiefhomer89 Go ahead, I got it after watching the original video and I already have 100 hours into it. That was just a week ago. It's so fun. Everything in the game, you get as soon as you buy the game, no strings attached.
This needs a part 3
I learned a decade too late that the way to beat the yeti is to press the down key to go faster
I cannot believe we missed the opportunity to make an Esperanto sign language. Everyone could learn it and it would be handy for people with hearing too when they need to be quiet.
There's been even more updates since then. The look has changed. the environments are fantastic. The sky looks more real. The creature diversity has expanded by leaps and bounds. We're on the "Frontiers" release now. Highly recommend if you haven't gotten up the resolve to try it again. it's almost unrecognizable from what it was a year ago in over all look. We can oversee settlements now. You can ride FLYING creatures now, where you couldn't before. there are community expeditions. You can adopt animal companions, who will then lay eggs and using a feature on the Anomaly you can get some very interesting hybrid creatures. You can change the look of your freighter now. the textures inside space stations have changed and look SO much better. There are new cosmetic customizations. New base pieces and materials to build base pieces with. This list goes on and on. So much new content and more coming all the time. One of my favorite games. 🥰
Edit: Oh yes, and you mustn't forget living ships! While they look cool, there's still a lot of work to be done on them and with as hard working as these guys are, I'm sure they will make them even better.
This channel start as a serious reaction channel and now it end up become a wacky gaming/reaction channel
"When a big corporation offers you money... Especially if there's no strings attached..."
xD
Paul how are you supposed to finish your game if you go into bankruptcy and have to liquidate all the things you are using to make said game
I’m assuming he meant if it fails
Corporate structures can't be used to innovate. Only to defraud.
1:18 ah yes feel young again back to the year I was born.
same
The one part of that video i will forever disagree with.
"It´s not Sony's fault"
They kow what they´re doing and why, it IS their fault.
Whenever an unfinished game comes out, the Suspects are the Publishers, because they´re operated not by people who know what they´re doing or care about the products/studios.
They care about the Shareholders, and the fact that they want money quickly, that is the one, the only thing that drives the Big Publishers.
And that´s why they will always be at fault.
This is the best redemption story I've ever heard
The skiing game was called skii free
SkiFree
6:30 there is literally a mcdonald in a shack in the home depo across the street.
An hour long!? Time to get some popcorn.
I love this game and hello games for all they have done and they are still releasing updates
No Man's Sky won another award last year or the year before for best game currently in development
I'll have you know I have 500 bodies in my basement freezer. The other 300 have turned to skeletons and are stored in my closet.
No press. I'm impressed with how they handled the situation. It was smart because the press is horseshit.
Bankruptcy laws are not the same between the two countries. In the UK you're held more accountable.
Hey Paul, love your work. I want to recommend you react to a UA-camr called Sideways. His focus is on musical theory and is pretty entertaining and easy to follow. I recommend his videos:
- Why Avatar has the most ironic soundtrack of all time.
- Why the Music in Les Miserables (2012) is worst than you thought.
- Why the music in Cats (2018) is worst than you thought. An indirect sequel to the Les Miserables video.
- Why A Goofy Movie is better than you remember.
- How to listen to music incorrectly and how to find Superman in The Avengers. (One title)
most of these vids are 20-25mins. Except for Les Miserables (40mins) and Cats (68mins) but they are worth it if you liked the other options I recommend. Thanks!
I got No Man's Sky recently because of the New MacOS Port. It runs on my MacBook Pro with the M2 processor and 64GB of RAM it runs incredibly fast and smooth along with many other completely unrelated apps I use for work. It's sitting in the background right now. I'm completely addicted to the game. It doesn't feel like a game, it's a sort of lifestyle thing now. If you added reading books to a jigsaw puzzle to doing things like cooking, building, to a computer game, you might have something like No Man's Sky.
I read the other day that there are only 26 people working for Hello Games. I first bought the game back when it came out but stopped playing because I switched from Windows to Mac. Because I bought it way back then, I didn't pay anything this time. I just downloaded the new Mac version.
I've already got a couple hundred hours into the game and I haven't paid anything.
How do they make money? Only on new users?
Your wrong about the bankruptcy thing. Hello games is called "Hello Games ltd" that ltd means limited. this is a form of limited liability company that gives liability equivalent to your investment. this means that the shareholders do actually take on the debt of the company. the banks can and would have gone after everything he owned. Bankruptcy and corporate law is very complicated and has a lot of rules depending on how the venture is structured. You're thinking of an LLC which is also a limited liability company that does not give liability to the shareholders for any debt.
22:11 I've seen a lot of reacts to "The Engoodening of No Man's Sky" and yours was the one I was thinking to be worse, since you are so serious, and the video is also about mocking and fun. But here you made a very intersting consideration that I have never thought about and haven't seen nobody else to point out and it's totally true. They made promisses of the universe of possibilities that they had full control of and knew to be possible and when there was no deadline! How nobody said that before!? From that moment on, I started thinking you are smart and I am dumb. So I'll continue watching the reaction and congratulations (no sarcasm, for real), you are really smart and despite of the jokes and funny tone of the video, you sincerely and smartly made great ponderations
in fact, after almost 1 hour of video, I am becoming a admirer of yours hahaha
47:57 HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA there's no way not even a person so serious like you not to laugh in this part hahahahaha. Very funny!!
Honestly the best method I have seen for small devs is the valheim method, don't worry about advertising until you have a 90ish percent complete game, all the core concepts, gameplay loops and themes in place, then release and focus on that little bit of extra polish afterwards. No one felt ripped off playing valheim despite it technically being incomplete, because there was enough core features, and no one felt disappointed because there was no expectations it kind of just appeared on the scene and was a "this is what we have, take it or leave it."
Damn
Damn, that scam you were talking about is literally like when you get junk mail that is a fake medical bill or something, but for a low enough amount that at first you dont even care to put in the effort to check. Except, obviously, way larger scale.
9:37 true, but it's probably not a good idea long term to rely sole on sequels, as they tend to have diminishing returns, as the vary factors that reduces the expenditures tend to also wear away at intrest
About the ASL comment. He was presenting at a live conference (GDC) where there were likely deaf people in the audience if the had a live interpreter. If they have a live interpreter, they'll show the interpreter over auto-generated text, which is terrible. It would be especially terrible for something like a coding conference where it won't be able to really translate the advanced, interesting stuff that you tune in for.
In terms to sign language, it's a live event. Auto subtitles, least judging by youtube, can be sketchy and there's a live audience. Any deaf people in the audience need that.
26:43 Tell Sony that. They went to this small indie company and didn't even THINK to give them a proper PR guy. Sony fucks up everything as usual.
Can you react endless space 2 review by ssethzeentach's.
The sign language might be for the in person audience and it is a live broadcast(Takes time for subtitles to be done)
Yo mate you should stream this game. It'd be fun to watch.
this makes me proud to own a copy of no man's sky :)
One issue why No Man's Sky got as much shit and people thought they outright lied about stuff, is because most gaming companies/publishers and even sometimes developers constantly do that, lie about features they know won't be in the game but still lie about them and after release "they were cut because they weren't fun". The trust credit between gamers and gaming industry is at the rock bottom, now even more so than back in 2016, so in some ways No Man's Sky was the trigger for an avalanche. The EA's, Activision-Blizzard's and Ubisoft's and TakeTwo's of the industry have been milking the consumers with bullshit and lies for almost a decade, and we're at a point everyone gets hit in the crossfire, whether honest but miscalculated or outright liar.
There's been about 9 free medium to large updates for the game since this video was made as well. Such a great game if you love space!
I loved burnout takedown
Did someone warn him about the ending? :D
The interesting thing about the release of the game is that I had people who barely know what a computer is, send me links to articles about the game because they thought it sounded interesting and that I would likely be interested. If the PR for the game was reaching the average person on the street, the kind of person who doesn't give a crap about any new computer game, it must have been massive.
Got an idea. There's a video by vice news called "Ground zero mali part 1". I would love to see you give your two cents on that XD
Got it so 799 dead bodies is the limit of love
You think you could do a reaction to his GDC presentation?
Regarding the "hiring the PR guy" - it's not that easy to actually hire a PR guy who won't screw things up, especially if we touch such a niche (And it's indeed niche) area as a space exploration games. You can easily find the guy for shooter and explain him how the stuff he is supposed to present is "like Call of duty" or "Like Doom, but with extra mechanics" or "Counter-strike with swords and crossbows", but when it comes to space, it's much harder. Especially during 2016, when the only games that were "like" NMS were Elite: Dangerous (At a time without space legs component and through development of NMS was even without planetary component) and Meme Citizen (Which is not good comparison point to say the least).
Sony should've given them a PR guy.