Quest Update v67 Changes Everything: Your Turn, Apple
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- Опубліковано 4 вер 2024
- VR Meta Quest v67 Update Mixed Reality
After finally getting the v67 update on my Quest, I can finally see what all the buzz is about. This is probably the most important Quest update in a very long time, bringing changes that finally make the Quest 3 feel like the Vision Pro lite.
With massive productivity and customization improvements, I am so excited to share these new features.
#quest3 #meta #vr #mixedreality #oculus
I just tested further, and it looks like maybe I still had an application open when filming and testing, because after recording the video I was able to confirm the cap is 6 applications, not five.
But that is a gotcha everyone should be mindful of, minimized tabs seem to count against your limit. It doesnt seem to be a 6 window cap, it's really a 6 open application cap.
In the Android developer settings there's an option "Force activities to be resizable". Maybe that can let inshot resize.
Now I just wish they would give us pass through portals, so I can see my keyboard and mouse when I'm in Virtual desktop
We got color key pass thru at least, and you can use keyboard tracking (doesn't have to be an exact keyboard, just pick a Logitech that's the same size as what you're using and it'll probably track)
I think immersed has that option
I have that issue with discord on my regular phone, that's 100% on them for releasing the new UI before it was ready. Looks like a great OS
Yeah so far I'm starting to think it's more Android app implementation issues, because it doesn't seem to be consistent for all applications.
I've dabbled and flutter development there's definitely tools and techniques you can use to make sure it scales properly. But I think a lot of app UIs lean on the standard phone form factor
@bc_labs Agreed, it's actually really interesting, I use a Samsung Galaxy S22, About half the time, that join voice channel pop-up shows correctly, the other half of the time it's halfway off the right side of my screen.
Soooo, we not gonna talk about the picture on the right side of that Spotify tab at 1:49?
Although the music was just some synthwave, the album art definitely is not necessarily free of .... suggestive art.
Might clip it out if I can, but it's also kind of funny.
Thank you mate. I've been keeping up with your channel. And I appreciate. Your content And your genuine feedback. And thoughts on the mediquest three and how to use it to be Productive
I really hope that the improvements in the passthrough, the new UI and new functions make it practically a cheaper version of the Apple Vision financially but not behind in terms of resources, what I would like most is that the latency of the virtual control of the quest and the bell of the If your hand had zero latency and was well positioned, another fantastic thing would be occlusion of the body and 3D objects in the real world.
Honestly I think a lot of these things are within the realm of possibility. But there will be trade-offs. The main thing they're running up against at this point I think is battery life. If it wasn't about battery life, and a little bit to the effect of heat, I see them be able to push the quest much further than it already has been.
Apple literally had to essentially cheat by offloading the battery, and making it swappable, to get the Vision Pro to last long enough, and get the weight down enough.
I do wish they had pushed the ram up to about 12gb, as I think that could yield more flexibility in terms of multitasking, as well as processing
Ask her what you said about being a cheaper Vision pro, I think we're already most of the way there. I used the Vision Pro during a demo and although it was a very seamless experience, there are a lot of shortcomings with it that the quest also suffers. Apple was just able to throw hardware, and money at most their problems. Meta is really having to optimize their software to keep the BOM budget oriented.
I would have paid another $150 for the quest 3 to have eye tracking though.
@@bc_labs The biggest problem with Quest 3 isn't even the battery and that it gets hot since you can increase the battery with accessories (which also solve the comfort problem) plus you don't feel or barely feel the heat from it with its face cover , the biggest problem is the lack of ram and eye tracking, with 16gb of ram, foveated rendering and a Snapdragon® XR2 Plus Gen 2 it would be possible to have an excellent improvement in the power of the VR/AR headset, if all games could use it this extra power, games like the walking dead saints and sinner chapter 1 and asgard's wrath 2, which both with the graphical update for quest 3 would run at 120fps (they currently run at 72fps), in addition to getting all the power for multitasking too, is what I hope The Asus VR/MR gamer headset that will use Horizon OS has all these improvements (and if possible QLED + Mini LED or Micro OLED screens (of course if the field of vision is not smaller)), I would easily pay 1000 dollars for it.
Furthermore, even though Apple made the Apple Vision Pro costing a fortune, it did tremendous stupid things with it, starting by making its structure out of metal, which is something that will weigh you down, like if it were titanium, which is much lighter, ok, more It's not, another thing is the useless and very poorly made external screen that increases the weight even more, another thing is the battery that even if you take the parts out and you have a wire hanging with you, you still have the same battery as the Quest 3 or worse.
I’m losing Bluetooth connectivity when I try the new full screen mode.
Xbox/Playstation controls for gaming.
Works fine with the normal large windows though
This really is a strange bug. I don't usually use Bluetooth devices with my quest other than a keyboard, but I was able to play around with it for 15 or so minutes with a Bluetooth keyboard without issue. I wonder if it's controller specific. Which kind of controller are you using Playstation or Xbox?
@@bc_labs I used both and had the same trouble. But maybe it’s because the apps are side loaded.
Again though, it was only in the new supersized screen with the optional dimming.
I’m not sure I saw you test that in the video… would be interesting to know if your keyboard works in that with normally installed apps
You can have 3 floating windows and 3 on the doc not 2 floating windows
I pinned a comment correcting this, there was a minimized window that count against my total when I was testing and recording
In the future just download the update directly when it's available and use side load from the boot menu on the quest 3 to get it installed if you want it earlier
Tried that, it wasn't available yet. Using Meadows website for updating only got me to v66 when I was already on v66.
I was checking to see if anybody had saved their binaries from when they got the update, but had no success
Can v67 remember multiple scanned rooms yet? That really needs to be fixed. Currently, every time I switch rooms, the entire room needs to be re-scanned, even though I had saved and named it. Is there something I’m doing wrong, or this just isn’t fixed yet?
There is a program you can get that scans multiple rooms. I don't know why Oculus hasn't done it yet?
I'm still waiting on v66 to fully kick in I still have that warping problem in mixed reality. TC
Good explanations. Better than some, tbh. Great job!
Thanks, It's always important to me to try to cover the details I feel like are being missed
Can it remember multiple scanned rooms yet? That really needs to be fixed. Currently, every time I switch rooms, the entire room needs to be re-scanned, even though I had saved and named it. Is there something I’m doing wrong, or this just isn’t fixed yet?
What is with the half painted orange wall?
What about the anime chick getting railed on one of his screens???
Testing colors for the office, haha
if they add curve feature, pinning spatial windows to dock, and fix re showing dock when maximized window is active doesnt changes location that would be perfect
There are definitely improvements like that that I'd like to see, but this is definitely just their first update of many on this front. I'm just glad Meta is finally trying to make some advancements on this front. The UI has definitely been a weak point for a while.
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They do have a option to make any window flat or curved bro 😂😂😂
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And you can also pin the windows as well everything you said you can actually do watch other videos and you'll know 😉
@@jdarg4163 dude I meant in new UI :D Im using quest for 3 years dont teach me its OS xD
@@jdarg4163 I meant pinning 6 windows to dock but with placing them where ever you want
the problem is when you change room or open vr app..erase all your layout.
what was the youtube song you were listening to? can't wait for 68 updares
I honestly don't know which one it was this time I just turned on some of my cyberpunk Lo-Fi I listen to, and try to keep it muted to avoid getting myself into trouble copyright wise.
Do you need a Q3 for most / all of these window / passthrough improvements ? or Q2 gets them too
If I hadn't loaned out my quest to I would try to get an answer for you. I haven't seen any sort of notification or updates indicating that the quest to supports this. But I imagine they are going to unify The UI is between Quest 2 and Quest 3 Comma But they might limit the number of Windows Further
@@bc_labs no worries - I enabled Experimental (new window support) on my Q2 and the functionality looks like yours (with less clear passthrough ofc)
@@JMX246 how many windows max? 3 floating and 3 fixed together?
@@bc_labs good question - Ill try and get all 6 going later when back with my headset
They should have mantis gamepad pro overlay on there for android game too that'll be the ultimate all in 1 kinda
I wonder if you can side load it. Does it require root?
@bc_labs no root I managed to work everything except for the overlay on the quest is not allow that was when the 2 first came out. So I Don't know now
The only real think you can really do in VR is Gaming. The rest are nearly gagets.
To be realistic, aaa games are more Importend at the moment as sizeble windows ectect...
The Meta development team is separate than those that make games though, the Meta headset development team only works on software development for the headset, while the game developer Studios make the AAA games so there's really not a misdirection of effort.
I personally think some of the multitasking capabilities are more important to me than gaming at times.
@@bc_labs to play around with this capabilities....
It looks painful to try and move/resize windows. Seems you spent more time just trying to grab the window or place it in the location you want it than anything else. Apple doesn't seem to have this issue.
Apple isn't working off of hand tracking most of the time, and this is the first Meta update with the ability to pinch and pull flat apps off from the dock.
There are some growing pains since this is a beta update, and I'm sure by the time it gets to the official release channel it'll be cleaned up a bit. But resizing was a bit finicky some of the time.
does anybody know how to get this update? i cant find it anywhere in my settings.
You have to do the trade off of joining the PTC (Public Test Channel) to get early updates.
Ain't it 3 windows in a row like as before and they have added space for 3 more so you can use a total of 6 windows all at once i have seen in other videos but I have the spatial app which I could use even more bro lool
I pinned a comment on this because I was incorrect. It's three floating wherever you want, and three docked. I had a minimized tab which apparently counts against your 6 totsl.
I haven't used used the spatial app but I know other apps like fluidd can have more windows but they are only browser windows. You can't run unique apps. So it is a bit different.
I just want pinnable windows back
Pinnable to what? Like where you walk around and they move with you?
I would like something like that to return, as well as I would like some better snapping tools to snap to your room ( I need to rescan my room with the current update to see if they added anything like that)
@@bc_labs on the oculus rift s there was a option to pin windows onto whatever youre doing so i would play my vr games and on the side was a pinned window to watch some streams or videos
Everyone else says 6 windows 3 floating 3 fixed ...
I will do some more testing to correct myself if I'm wrong. It's possible I had an item minimize. At one point I had minimize Telegram and I noticed that minimize items count against your number of windows. I thought I closed it but it's possible I didn't
I just tested further, and at first it was still only letting me have five. I rebooted my headset and I could use six. It looks like maybe my Horizon feed or something was minimized and not closed.
But that is a gotcha everyone should be mindful of, minimized tabs count against your limit. It's not a 6 window cap, it's really a 6 open application cap it seems.
Passthrough isnt better with v67😢
If yours didn't improve with v66, it could be that they haven't pushed the changes for your headset yet. It seems to be not tied exclusively to an update, but to either a server flag or by account/device.
I saw a major jump with v64, and again with v66 with warping fixes. V67 didn't really affect my pass through much, but other people mentioned that they didn't have the warping fix until after v67
@@bc_labsThe warping fix came with v67 on mine as well.
Your turn apple? lol apple dont need to do anything right now, quest is trying to be AVP...and it not even close still...
Apple did better with an unlimited budget, and still has limitations. This device way too close to the AVP feature wise for something 1/7 the price.
Apple needs to show it can make a Vision Pro lite for less than $1500, otherwise it basically will remain a dev kit. I was blown away when I used it, up until I ventured through the app store. Both need work on that front.