The 16 Shards of the Cosmere

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  • In this video, we talk about all of the cosmere's gods, known as Shards or magic bois. I may have made that last name up.
    Also, my cats are slowly taking over the channel and there seems to be no clear way of stopping it from happening. Oh, well.
    0:00 - Intro
    1:53 - What's a Shard?
    4:20 - Ambition
    6:46 - Autonomy
    8:36 - Cultivation
    10:04 - Dominion & Devotion
    11:22 - Endowment
    13:04 - Odium
    15:02 - Honor
    16:40 - Invention
    17:28 - Mercy
    18:24 - Ruin & Preservation
    20:39 - Final Four
    24:56 - Spoilery Bonus Round
    26:51 - Cat Wrasslin
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  • @yewnork
    @yewnork Рік тому +339

    Honor is not dead so long as he lives in the hearts of men

  • @mrm2542
    @mrm2542 Рік тому +148

    Daily reminder that according to Hoid's letters, Ruin was the most righteous and kind man he knew before he became Ruin

    • @LoreoftheWorlds
      @LoreoftheWorlds  Рік тому +37

      Gosh, I should have put that in here. It's so telling; by the time we meet ruin there's basically nothing of that kind man left

    • @adrianvalladares7564
      @adrianvalladares7564 11 місяців тому +19

      ​@@LoreoftheWorlds One could also interpret that his righteousness and kindness became twisted by Ruin's Intent. And after having Ruin for so long, he was twisted to see the ruination of things as a kind and righteous act.

    • @devaryamadhukar8803
      @devaryamadhukar8803 9 місяців тому +5

      I think of it as more of a sacrifice, like imagine is Rayse was ruins vessel

    • @beepbop6542
      @beepbop6542 8 місяців тому +10

      That DEFINITELY shines through in the story. I don't have the book here right now, but when Kelsier talks to RUin, Ruin basically tells him "I had a deal with Preservation. I helped create all of this, so it is my RIGHT to end it. Nothing has a point without an ending"

  • @damonrowsell2393
    @damonrowsell2393 Рік тому +146

    My personal theory about Invention involves a Word of Brandon from a while ago where he said that there’s at least one shard that isn’t tied to a planet. If Invention has the highest technology out of any shard I could see it ruling over a giant traveling spaceship or other vessel.

    • @LoreoftheWorlds
      @LoreoftheWorlds  Рік тому +33

      Something your comment made me think of- what if invention wasn't tied to a planet but instead a sun? Like invention built some sort of wild Dyson sphere - that would be super fun to explore in a theory video 🤔

    • @God-nw9qd
      @God-nw9qd Рік тому +5

      @@LoreoftheWorlds I feel like a third invested sun might make them less interesting individually tbh.

    • @whyonthefall5373
      @whyonthefall5373 Рік тому +8

      @@LoreoftheWorlds interesting thought. I find it odd how we haven't explicitly seen anything from Invention yet. It does make sense that Taldain has the greatest technological advancement, given Autonomy, but Invention is the only specific Shard that would imply extremely quick technological advancement: it's hard wired into what the Shard wants to accomplish.
      Invention of what though?

    • @Grux_ASG
      @Grux_ASG Рік тому +4

      @@God-nw9qd invention is chilling in a black hole

    • @whyonthefall5373
      @whyonthefall5373 Рік тому

      @@Grux_ASG that would be pretty epic. I'm sure a Shard like that would be interested in unusual celestial objects

  • @projectavalongame
    @projectavalongame Рік тому +68

    I don't have a favourite shard but Sazed has got to be the best vessel

    • @kronosDking
      @kronosDking 4 місяці тому +3

      The tragic thing is, by the time a few thousand years pass, likely nothing will remain of Sazed himself, as the shards take over.

    • @michaelalder3709
      @michaelalder3709 3 місяці тому +5

      @@kronosDkingthat will be very sad, I think.

    • @aryav25
      @aryav25 3 місяці тому +1

      the shard has alread started taking over in era 2, he can't even act much in era 2. I think in about a 100 years more and Sazed would become harmony only.... like there wasn't any Rayse left in Odium, similarly there wouldn't be much of our terris boy left either
      @@kronosDking

  • @GraveKing3473
    @GraveKing3473 Рік тому +51

    Honor. Right or wrong, I can't help but feel my heartstrings get tugged every time I hear stories of brave souls sacrificing themselves for greater causes. Honor, inspiring such souls, and living up to the call himself, is definitely my favorite.
    Also, while I love, love the vessel of Harmony...my personal theory is that Harmony is the overall antagonist of the Cosmere. It's just a thing that I've noticed about Sanderson. He's a deeply religious man that is not afraid to poke at the flaws of religion...so a god that is paving his own path to hell with good intentions just makes sense. Also...I don't think Ruin and Preservation are working together inside that shard...

    • @LoreoftheWorlds
      @LoreoftheWorlds  Рік тому +8

      I am quite scared by what is going on with harmony, but I am near convinced that we'll see honor reforged in some sense sooner rather than later.

    • @vision7media36
      @vision7media36 Рік тому +7

      i think Harmony leaned a lot to Preservation's shard over the years, this is in direct opposition to his shard's (Harmony)intent, resulting in what we're seeing. I feel he needs to balance it out to actually achieve harmony, this might not bode well for Scadrial/other cosmere worlds going forward but oh well.

    • @GraveKing3473
      @GraveKing3473 Рік тому +7

      @@vision7media36 I just always get the sense that I should look twice any anything Sanderson has 'clearly labeled.' He has a tendency to use expectations to twist the story and surprise the readers.
      In a universe with multiple 'gods' if one has a power like 'peace' and one has a power like 'ambition' the only way for both to exist is for one to be coerced, destroyed, or corrupted. Thus a concept like peace, or, Harmony, can become ominous. Because their goal is to make *all* things harmonious. All the shards. All the planets. All the species. A noble goal! But..at what cost?

    • @vision7media36
      @vision7media36 Рік тому +1

      @@GraveKing3473 wow....I did not think of that..... That's such a great angle to come from.
      I'd totally love to see that come to play in the cosmere.

    • @kylecostello4128
      @kylecostello4128 Рік тому +6

      Something back this idea, is one of my favorite quotes in all of the cosmere. “He shall defend their ways, yet shall violate them. He will be their savior, yet they shall call him heretic. His name shall be Discord, yet they shall love him for it. “

  • @nathnaeltsegaw7263
    @nathnaeltsegaw7263 Рік тому +44

    You just blessed my night!
    I like cultivation the most. She seems to have effective measures in place to neutralize the most dangerous shard out there. She is like the old spymaster whose web you don't see until you're ensnared in it.

    • @dullerdog
      @dullerdog Рік тому +4

      i really like how suprised i was with her plans. good writing brandon

    • @LoreoftheWorlds
      @LoreoftheWorlds  Рік тому +7

      I think your description of her as a sort of spymaster makes a lot of sense - I never really thought about her in that context but it fits so perfectly with how she's been operating from the shadows and affecting change over time.

  • @whyonthefall5373
    @whyonthefall5373 Рік тому +36

    My favourite Shard is likely Harmony, as it's the first example of the mixing of Intents, and has huge implications for the Cosmere. Also, I like seeing characters from the first era books sticking around and gaining more knowledge.
    After that, Cultivation is really interesting, given it has a soft magic system based on its Intent. (Side note, I love how the different Shards seemingly have very different abilities-of course, on top of their base powers-based on their Intent, or even the Vessel: eg, Autonomy's many Avatars and weird Perpendicularities, Cultivation's altering and cultivating Old Magic, and Odium's capacity to take away one's pain: to absorb Passion, the emotions of all people. Its quite cool. It gives Shards more individuality on top of their magic systems and the Vessels' personalities.)
    I also really like the Shard Whimsy; giving light hearted fancy the power of a deity sounds really interesting for inter-Shard "politics". Imagine having to deal with a god who's sole interest is to be facetious and aloof?
    Invention, Ambition and Mercy are also very compelling to me.
    Oh yeah, how about Odium? The change in management is going to be quite interesting for the future of the Cosmere

    • @LoreoftheWorlds
      @LoreoftheWorlds  Рік тому +4

      These are some great picks! It's great how the individual shards are so unique, I agree. Also can't wait to see how odiums new manager impacts the rest of the Cosmere!

  • @orrinscott-stewart3641
    @orrinscott-stewart3641 Рік тому +20

    Harmony is my favorite shard mainly because I really liked his vessel so I'm more invested.

    • @darkcow7of9
      @darkcow7of9 Рік тому +1

      Who is it? What book?

    • @nuclear7559
      @nuclear7559 Рік тому +2

      @@darkcow7of9 mistborn era 1 gives the full backstory but he's also in era 2 of course

    • @darkcow7of9
      @darkcow7of9 Рік тому +2

      @@nuclear7559 ok haven't started on mistborn yet

    • @nuggetdoja871
      @nuggetdoja871 11 місяців тому +2

      Invested hehe

  • @mohitbelagal4155
    @mohitbelagal4155 Рік тому +8

    "Honor is dead, but I'll see what I can do."

  • @Alfoldio
    @Alfoldio Рік тому +13

    Im very interested to see what Valor's planet/magic system looks like

  • @dinocollins720
    @dinocollins720 Рік тому +11

    Kelsier takes over he shard of ambition!

    • @LoreoftheWorlds
      @LoreoftheWorlds  Рік тому +6

      This is looking increasingly likely! This would be so interesting to watch

    • @dinocollins720
      @dinocollins720 Рік тому +1

      @@LoreoftheWorlds Love all your videos!!! Keep the great content coming!

    • @tonykuriger573
      @tonykuriger573 Рік тому +3

      If there is some kind of "survival" or "perseverence" shard it would be a sin if Kelsier didn't take that...

    • @dinocollins720
      @dinocollins720 Рік тому +1

      @@tonykuriger573 Agreed!!!

  • @aldan7812
    @aldan7812 Рік тому +11

    Homework assignment accepted! My favourite shard is 100% Honor. Because of the moments the Radiants have through the SA, and the honor involved in all those huge moments that just destroy me lol - It's such a perfect concept for me that this is a no-brainer :-)

    • @LoreoftheWorlds
      @LoreoftheWorlds  Рік тому +2

      Do you think Honor will eventually be reforged?

    • @aldan7812
      @aldan7812 Рік тому +1

      @@LoreoftheWorlds I'm not sure what he's going to do here, but it IS gonna be epic thats for sure - i think there will be some attempt to reconstruct honor, not sure it will be successful though tbh :-)

  • @EmethMatthew
    @EmethMatthew Рік тому +6

    So far I think Odium is my favorite shard simply from the amount of info we have on it in the stormlight archive so far. Harmony might become my favorite as I continue reading, but I'm not deep into that yet.

  • @joebaumann3620
    @joebaumann3620 Рік тому

    Very nice quick listen for the basics or refresher

  • @PlayguePals
    @PlayguePals Рік тому +3

    We're very biased but you're one of our favorite creators on the Internet

    • @LoreoftheWorlds
      @LoreoftheWorlds  Рік тому +1

      I appreciate all the money you folks raise for charity! If I were to feel charitable during this holiday season, wheres a good charity to throw money at?

    • @PlayguePals
      @PlayguePals Рік тому +1

      @@LoreoftheWorlds Excellent question! Since we're mostly all book lovers around here, maybe donate some books to your local library or small bookstores! Get to know a local charity near you who has a large impact on your community. You can reach out to your Chamber of Commerce, and they can direct you to non-profits who work closely with schools, small businesses, and families! Can't make a donation? Sharing about what work non-profits are doing makes a huge difference!

  • @mudbutt42
    @mudbutt42 11 місяців тому +1

    I come back to this video at least once a month. I probably seen it 10 times already.

  • @marcbaigrie2295
    @marcbaigrie2295 22 дні тому

    I fkn love your cat, man. I came for the cosmere but I stayed for that cat.

  • @grykraghhansen3334
    @grykraghhansen3334 Рік тому +2

    I really like Harmony because its vessel is one of my favorite characters and I love them

  • @harrykelsch9796
    @harrykelsch9796 Рік тому +3

    Love the videos keep it up, i would like to see some spoiler content with era 2

    • @LoreoftheWorlds
      @LoreoftheWorlds  Рік тому +3

      It's coming up! You should see some era 2 discussion by the end of the year.

  • @jtsg17
    @jtsg17 10 місяців тому +4

    I'm calling it now. The final shard is "Instinct".

    • @LoreoftheWorlds
      @LoreoftheWorlds  10 місяців тому +3

      Oooooooh, I really like that

    • @ruin8891
      @ruin8891 17 днів тому

      Wished it would be Purity.

  • @barbara7452
    @barbara7452 7 днів тому

    I absolutely love the graphics!

  • @PI20CRAFTING
    @PI20CRAFTING Рік тому +1

    Its whimsy of course.
    Can't wait for your channel to blow up as soon as Branderson hits the Big Screen.

    • @LoreoftheWorlds
      @LoreoftheWorlds  Рік тому +1

      Whimsy is a great choice! What a wild idea for a shard, I can't wait to see what comes of them.
      And thank you, that means a lot ☺️

  • @danielmaasen
    @danielmaasen Рік тому +1

    You make great content - thank you!

  • @bradenbowdish6463
    @bradenbowdish6463 Рік тому

    Great video dude

  • @warbrothers7745
    @warbrothers7745 Рік тому +1

    Great job pal!

  • @CHIIIEEEEEEEEFFFFSSS
    @CHIIIEEEEEEEEFFFFSSS Рік тому

    I love your lore videos. Have you considered putting something at the top of your videos or in the notes that calls out the last book to he published. Might be helpful in the future to have that context.

  • @groofay
    @groofay Рік тому +1

    I think Autonomy is one of the more interesting shards to me, what with the ramifications of putting unconnected avatars of themself seemingly at random throughout the cosmere.
    But as for favorite, for the moment I'm just gonna say Harmony. I love the inner conflict of Ruin and Preservation reflecting Sazed's inner conflict in the last portion of his arc, and it'll be interesting to see how this plays out moving forward as I've only just started Bands of Mourning.
    The musician in me wants to like Virtuosity and Whimsy, so hopefully we'll see more of them sooner or later.

  • @comboclemo
    @comboclemo Рік тому +1

    Harmony is probably my favourite Shard mainly because i loved his vessel before he ascended and revel everytime he has shown up since. As for whats happening to him now i think he is trying to keep the two Shards together but i think eventually Discord will be created from him. As for the mystery Shard i think people have got it wrong its not Survival maybe more like Cowardice or Stealth watching from afar but probably not getting involved in the Cosmere until another Shard or being finds them. Just stumbled upon your channel great work!

    • @LoreoftheWorlds
      @LoreoftheWorlds  Рік тому

      Harmony is just great in general! Very excited to see what happens with them in the long run.

    • @GraveKing3473
      @GraveKing3473 Рік тому +3

      I'll be honest, my love for Harmony's vessel is why I don't love Harmony. I think our dear old friend has been wildly corrupted by warring powers inside him.

    • @LoreoftheWorlds
      @LoreoftheWorlds  Рік тому +1

      @@GraveKing3473 Im so scared for our poor boy
      He literally didnt ask for this

  • @olmodelrio1144
    @olmodelrio1144 17 днів тому

    I was so worried about the last shard being a super secret spoiler and when I realized it was just it felt very funny cuz i totally forgot that was technichaly a new shard

  • @xHTxRaptorF22
    @xHTxRaptorF22 Рік тому +4

    Autonomy is a cat confirmed, also now we have seen a dragon on screen

    • @LoreoftheWorlds
      @LoreoftheWorlds  Рік тому +2

      I know it's not the case but wouldn't that be great if they couldn't find a 16th person willing to take on a shard so they just kinda grabbed a cat

    • @xHTxRaptorF22
      @xHTxRaptorF22 Рік тому +1

      @@LoreoftheWorlds My headcanon is that hoid gave his shard to a cat before deciding that might not have been the best idea and the cosmere is just his story of dealing with an unruly cat.

  • @FrostFireTiger
    @FrostFireTiger 9 місяців тому +2

    I'm curious about Valor. The name itself makes me think of Knights, Paladins, Samurai, Spartans, Vikings, and most forms of Warrior Cultures from history. Makes me think that the power system of its worlds would be physically intensive. Probably something similar to Honor, but probable less Oath dependent and more connected to courage.

  • @Kade_Bauman
    @Kade_Bauman 10 місяців тому

    Your vids are insanely high quality

  • @EonNShadow
    @EonNShadow Рік тому +4

    Um actually...
    WoB has it that Preservation and Cultivation are more diametrically opposed than Preservation and Ruin. 🤓
    In all seriousness though, this video was fantastic! I love the animations

    • @LoreoftheWorlds
      @LoreoftheWorlds  Рік тому

      Wait, really? I never stumbled upon that in my reseach. Thanks for pointing it out, I'll keep that in mind in the future!

  • @ssgspinella
    @ssgspinella Рік тому +3

    Personally I would love to find out more about Valor, that entreats me the most.

  • @nuclear7559
    @nuclear7559 Рік тому

    Great video, very informational and really good memory boost.
    I dont think you mentioned that ruin and preservation are outright said by Sazed to once have been a single shard that split.

    • @jameskunz6590
      @jameskunz6590 9 місяців тому

      They were once united within Adonalsium, but after the shattering, Ruin and Preservation were indeed distinct powers. At a technical level, all the shards belong together.

  • @Ruminations09
    @Ruminations09 Рік тому +8

    My favorite Shard is Autonomy, for a few different reasons.
    First of all, of the base Intents each Shard embodies, Autonomy is the one that I personally value the highest. It would, without a doubt, be the Shard I would be most suited to take up myself of the sixteen options.
    As almost an exact antithesis to that though, I find Autonomy's current rising status as a villain in the Cosmere super intriguing. I personally find it much more compelling to see how ideals traditionally thought of positively can cause harm in their extreme than ideals like "Ruin" or "Odium". They make powerful, scary villains, but forces like Autonomy make for a more dynamic and complex conflict in my opinion.
    The lore behind Autonomy is also some of the most interesting, with how Autonomy is seeding dozens of other planets with Avatars as a way of spreading her control. The fact that the fandom is only just now - within the past year - noticing hints of Autonomy that were set up as early as Elantris genuinely blows my mind. I have particular interest in the Avatar Patji, as First of the Sun is my single favorite planet in the Cosmere.
    But also I just... really like Bavadin so far (despite how little we've seen of them). He's a character who freely changes his gender based on what feels appropriate in the moment and is a big proponant for self-expression. They're not confirmed human, but they seem to be. And if she is, that also makes her the first non-binary human character in the Cosmere.

    • @katieorsomething115
      @katieorsomething115 6 місяців тому

      i like autonomy a lot because ik we'll see them later again, maybe in the next stormlight book or mistborn era three. im almost confident autonomy is behind the ghost bloods, and it'll be interesting to see what they do with other worlds

  • @IamMullet
    @IamMullet Рік тому +8

    I thought it was 17 people who shattered Adonalsium, Hoid and the other 16. He's described it as such and said he just didnt take a shard. Or am I misremembering?

    • @jacobsermersheim6758
      @jacobsermersheim6758 Рік тому +2

      We don't know for certain if he helped with the Shattering, just that he was there. It's possible that he was just a witness or something.

    • @Ruminations09
      @Ruminations09 Рік тому +4

      @@jacobsermersheim6758 No, he definitely was an active participant in the Shattering. He was such an integral part of the operation that the other sixteen even offered him a Shard of his own, which he turned down.
      We already knew this from WoBs and the Rhythm of War epigraphs, but this was made even more explicit in Tress of the Emarld Sea with two notable quotes.
      One where Hoid says:
      "I was part of a secret plot to kill God"
      And another where he says
      " "It's for your own good" is one of the most insulting phrases to hear. I've heard those words. I've said those words. I've said them with sixteen other people."

    • @spoonbender3062
      @spoonbender3062 Рік тому +1

      @@Ruminations09 how could they offer him a shard if there's only 16 lol

    • @tonykuriger573
      @tonykuriger573 Рік тому +3

      @@spoonbender3062 Hoid likely didn't want a shard. That's why he's a colossal pain in the behind to all the other shards and suspect that his ultimate goal is to be the vessel of adonalsium, hence why he travels the cosmere to become invested from each shard.

    • @AvSpenc
      @AvSpenc 7 місяців тому

      @@spoonbender3062I’m sure you’ve already come to the conclusion, but…
      When the 16 + hoid split Adonalsium, the amount was arbitrary. They could have absolutely split it up into 17 shards, but seeing as hoid refused, they only split it amongst the 16. So, from a certain point of view, the original “16 shards” actually each had 1 whole piece + 1/16th

  • @geosustento8894
    @geosustento8894 Рік тому +5

    So regarding Autonomy. I know her actions are kind of contradictory to her intent, what with investing herself in other shardworlds and not just being content in isolating Taldain. I think this action, however, is her making sure other planets do not become threats to her own and thereby a threat to her autonomy. She isn't investing on other planets to help them be autonomous is what I'm trying to say.

    • @LoreoftheWorlds
      @LoreoftheWorlds  Рік тому +1

      Autonomy definitely appears to be going through some sort of internal conflict - the vessel and the shard are clearly at some sort of odds with each other. I won't go into too much detail in that regard though, cause I'm not sure how far you've read and I don't want to spoil anything.

    • @geosustento8894
      @geosustento8894 Рік тому

      @@LoreoftheWorlds I have read everything save for White Sand vol 2 and 3. Hahaha not sure if she features there

    • @dullerdog
      @dullerdog Рік тому

      @@geosustento8894 oh white sand is definitely one of the least cosmere aware cosmere novels out there. No worries for any cosmere connections or obvious shard appearances.

  • @fanghur
    @fanghur 2 місяці тому

    I'm going to be really happy if 'Prudence' turns out to be the name of a Shard, because I was actually the one who inspired Paleo to ask Brandon about that in the WOB.

  • @boredphilosopher4254
    @boredphilosopher4254 Рік тому

    Hey, Great video. One suggestion.
    When you say spoilers ahead, please also mention which book you are spoiling.

    • @beepbop6542
      @beepbop6542 8 місяців тому

      He's talking about the Cosmere, so you should assume the whole Cosmere.

  • @ChBrahm
    @ChBrahm 7 місяців тому +2

    My favorite Shard would be one that doesn´t actually exist... yet
    I have this theory that at some point Odium and Honor will fuse together like Harmony did to become *JUSTICE*
    And just like Harmony has the potential to become Discord
    Justice would have the potential to become Vengance

  • @ValhonStormsent
    @ValhonStormsent 7 місяців тому +1

    In oathbringer chapter 68 page 708 if you have the paper copy, wit says to shallan and I quote “Some men, as they age, grow wiser. I am not one of those, for Wisdom and I have always been at Cross-purposes, and I have yet to learn the tongue in which she speaks.”
    For this line of dialogue from wit, I believe that the last shard is wisdom.

  • @SnakeAndTurtleQigong
    @SnakeAndTurtleQigong 9 місяців тому

    Thanks so much

  • @siruglymane8343
    @siruglymane8343 Рік тому +3

    As of the ending of rhythm of war, my favorite shard is odium.

  • @jbwise2002
    @jbwise2002 Рік тому +1

    New to your channel.. I haven’t read all the cosmere works.. recommend you also mention the novels/content that informs the story. Eg This shard is in this story on this planet..

    • @LoreoftheWorlds
      @LoreoftheWorlds  Рік тому

      I'll break it down real quick for you!
      Mistborn:
      Ruin, Preservation
      Stormlight:
      Honor, Cultivation, Odium
      Warbreaker:
      Endowment
      Elantris (& Emperor's Soul):
      Dominion, Devotion
      White Sand:
      Autonomy
      Shadows for Silence:
      Ambition
      Does not directly appear in content yet:
      Mercy, Invention, Valor, Whimsy
      Hope this helps!

  • @Novasux
    @Novasux 9 місяців тому +1

    I’m really curious about virtuosity. Seems like the civilization surrounding it would be amazing

  • @JulianClosethewriter
    @JulianClosethewriter 3 місяці тому

    I think it is interesting that the word "cultivation" not only means to prepare and care for growing things, but also to harvest them. Whatever Cultivation's intentions, I think she'll take whatever she feels she needs to achieve them.

  • @stanh.78
    @stanh.78 Рік тому

    Harmony is definitely my favorite. The idea of a god who loathes worship is incredibly appealing and humanizing

  • @alakifan98
    @alakifan98 Рік тому +2

    how tf doesn't this have more views and subs

  • @Colonel_Overkill
    @Colonel_Overkill 2 місяці тому

    It was my understanding that 17 individuals were present for the shattering. The 16 who took up shards plus Hoid

  • @virgurilla4084
    @virgurilla4084 Рік тому +1

    Well, up until now, Harmony was by far my easy answer, but going forward, it has to be Odium, I am fascinated and terrified by what may happen _now_ . If you know you know.

    • @beepbop6542
      @beepbop6542 8 місяців тому

      Harmony is going to become even more interesting as he turns into Discord.

  • @doggyboy6333
    @doggyboy6333 3 місяці тому

    Is there a place where we can find all the lore. Like how cultivation looks like a dragon and how autonomy has a deity on First of Dusk and that?

  • @bohd3
    @bohd3 Рік тому

    I could see Autonomy working with Odium for the simple reason that some of the other Shards naturally want to enforce their will on others and that is in director oposition to Autonomy. Plus it makes sense that it would take more than one Shard to kill another.

  • @molliethomas2585
    @molliethomas2585 Рік тому +3

    But hey, that's just a theory. A Game Theory! Aaaaannnnnd cut!

    • @LoreoftheWorlds
      @LoreoftheWorlds  Рік тому +3

      I am so glad someone caught this!!!! I almost cut it out in editing because I wasn't sure anyone would understand 🤣

  • @BBQ_Ch1cken
    @BBQ_Ch1cken 9 місяців тому +1

    I was wondering if you’d bring up the Aethers or not, as they are kind of gods in this universe too

    • @LoreoftheWorlds
      @LoreoftheWorlds  8 місяців тому +2

      I am talking about aethers in one of my next cosmere videos :)

  • @realmless4193
    @realmless4193 10 місяців тому

    With Ruin and Preservation I think they go to the same world because Preservation was trying to protect the Cosmere from Ruin (who would have been more dangerous than Odium) while Ruin saw Preservation as it's biggest opponent so sought to get rid of it first, tying them into an inevitable millenias long battle.

  • @dcmbassi
    @dcmbassi 8 місяців тому +1

    14:47: "... Or would the Vessel have been changed by the Power somehow?"
    Well...
    Anyway, my favourite Shard is Honour, because I'm big on people (including myself) doing what they say they will do.

  • @carlsmith4568
    @carlsmith4568 Рік тому +2

    Was this video made after the Lost Metal release? Or did you intentionally leave out spoilers for *that* Shard..

    • @LoreoftheWorlds
      @LoreoftheWorlds  Рік тому +2

      Spoilers were intentionally left out but I did actually film this back in August. I thought about updating it, but that's such a big topic I'd rather have a whole video talking about it. Good catch!

  • @spaceybun
    @spaceybun Рік тому

    “Well, colors” amazing. My favorite shards are the dragon(s?) because who doesn’t love dragons??

  • @paulfelix5849
    @paulfelix5849 4 місяці тому

    Stumbled on this vid by accident. Intresting.
    Have only read the Misborn books so far, but have a dozen more of Brandon's offerings on the bedside table waiting for their turn.
    Nightblood: Given it's mere shape I would think Sanderson is pullnig a fast one by disguising a "spike" (such as the Hemalurgic Spikes from Mistborn). He does, after all, seem to like misdirecting readers (Sazed and Min's hunt for the true origins of the Lord Ruler, for example). Give the sword/spike oddball characteristics, a nebulous origin, confusing 'goals' and let it distract and dismay until the moment it's "purpose' is revealed and fulfulled... much like Stormbringer in the Elric novels.

  • @akmalnisar6206
    @akmalnisar6206 Рік тому

    Hello, I'm fairly new to the cosmere and was wondering where you got most of this info form?

    • @happykaladin78
      @happykaladin78 Рік тому +2

      All of this information is either gathered from A) Published Cosmere books or B) Words of Brandon (WOBs). WOBs are answers to questions fans have asked brandon. There is a whole list of WOBs that you can find on the 17th shard

  • @sonicdude210
    @sonicdude210 Рік тому +7

    Tress of the Emerald Sea Spoiler
    9:44 finally get to see on screen dragon dragon with dragonsteel, so stormin' hype

  • @picivyvortac2641
    @picivyvortac2641 7 місяців тому

    I think Whimsy is actually the spores now instead of the kites. Brando said that originally Tress was going to have kites being the way that the ships traverse the seas.

  • @undbiter65
    @undbiter65 4 місяці тому +1

    Are you gonna update vod as new shards pop up? Like, say, War or Unity.

    • @LoreoftheWorlds
      @LoreoftheWorlds  4 місяці тому

      Sure am!
      I'm planning on doing an update video on every planet in the Cosmere as well, including the secret project stuff.

  • @elijahdapaedobaptiza4831
    @elijahdapaedobaptiza4831 Рік тому +2

    I don’t think feruchemy is of Ruin and Preservation. I think it’s only of Preservation and Allomancy is of both.

    • @beepbop6542
      @beepbop6542 8 місяців тому

      That would make more sense, but Sanderson has confirmed that Feruchemy is the combo and allomancy is exclusively Preservation.

  • @tingtaiji
    @tingtaiji 5 місяців тому

    Probably should create a spoiler version. Most people watching these videos have read most of Sanderson’s works

  • @Annatar7
    @Annatar7 Рік тому +1

    why this doesn't have more views :[

    • @LoreoftheWorlds
      @LoreoftheWorlds  Рік тому

      Some of my older videos used to get significantly less views than this, it was very disheartening hah
      I appreciate the sentiment though! We'll get more views soon, I have a feeling that this will be a very good year for the channel. Looking forward to it!

  • @ss5gogetunks
    @ss5gogetunks 8 місяців тому

    I've always thought it was weird that preservation's power was allomancy not feruchemy.
    Feruchemy is all about preserving attributes to store them for later, end neutral... Feels more in line with preservation's intent. Where allomancy makes more sense if it's the combined power - burn(ruin) one substance and it is transformed into power (preserved)
    Hemalurgy definitely fits ruin though

    • @LoreoftheWorlds
      @LoreoftheWorlds  8 місяців тому

      I've always felt the same way. Had to look it up like 4 times to make sure when I was first researching stuff. C'est la vie, I suppose.

  • @aneonfoxtribute
    @aneonfoxtribute Рік тому +3

    Devotion and Dominion were not the first Shards that Odium went after, actually. Ambition was the very first.

    • @CrisOfRoshar
      @CrisOfRoshar 5 місяців тому

      Ambition wasn't the first one he managed to kill tho.

    • @aneonfoxtribute
      @aneonfoxtribute 5 місяців тому +1

      @@CrisOfRoshar Yes she was. Odium went to Ambition right away because he marked her as one of the most dangerous.

    • @CrisOfRoshar
      @CrisOfRoshar 5 місяців тому

      You can find the response in Word of Brandon, searching for the name Ambition. I tried to send the link to prove it but I can't.​ @@aneonfoxtribute

  • @seanhalpin87
    @seanhalpin87 Рік тому

    It's gotta be cultivation, she's a dragon, she is playing the long game, and her plans are so important to the future of the cosmere, and I don't know if she's what I'd call a protagonist or antagonist, with how rhythm of war ended up.
    Harmony is probably the most interesting, because we know the veesel SO well, AND Whats going on with them currently, and the implications that might have on their world/the cosmere overall
    I wanna see whimsy the most. I think they will be terrifying

    • @beepbop6542
      @beepbop6542 8 місяців тому +1

      Whimsy will probably end up twisted into being something horrible. It would fit Sanderson's humor well.

  • @amithyst
    @amithyst 10 місяців тому +1

    Harmony is best Shard. His vessel was my favorite person.

    • @LoreoftheWorlds
      @LoreoftheWorlds  10 місяців тому

      He was the best! Can't wait to see what happens next

  • @maciejniemczyk8307
    @maciejniemczyk8307 11 місяців тому +1

    I think that Dalinar will be the new wesel of Honor.

    • @LoreoftheWorlds
      @LoreoftheWorlds  9 місяців тому

      This makes the most sense to me too. I'll probably be making a video sometime soon exploring that possibility.

  • @Thurban
    @Thurban 5 місяців тому

    So how does Unity fit into it all?

  • @dpart3106
    @dpart3106 6 місяців тому

    Im terrorfied of what a planet ruled by whimsy will be

  • @Senior-Donjusticia
    @Senior-Donjusticia 2 місяці тому

    I’m just hoping Whimsy is basically Bill Cipher.

  • @rekirinthestorm
    @rekirinthestorm 11 місяців тому +1

    I believe 18 was the number of individuals there at the shattering! Two chose not to take up a shard!

    • @rekirinthestorm
      @rekirinthestorm 11 місяців тому +1

      Great video! =]

    • @LoreoftheWorlds
      @LoreoftheWorlds  9 місяців тому

      Do we know that frost was there? I'm assuming that's who you mean by two people - Frost and Hoid.
      And thank you!

  • @aryav25
    @aryav25 3 місяці тому

    wait... we know about 1 more of Autonomy's "dieties" that had probably once been a god on Scadrial, Trell

    • @LoreoftheWorlds
      @LoreoftheWorlds  3 місяці тому

      This was unconfirmed as of the filming of this video, unfortunately. I'm gonna wait till after Stormlight 5 to see if anything else pops up then I'll probably update this

    • @aryav25
      @aryav25 3 місяці тому

      oooh okay okay@@LoreoftheWorlds

  • @lordofdoinks3940
    @lordofdoinks3940 2 місяці тому

    Just so you know the decision was made by more then 16 people as hoid has said he denied taking a shard even though he could of, unless it means later in life

  • @aneonfoxtribute
    @aneonfoxtribute Рік тому +1

    "The decision was made by 16 individuals"
    Incorrect! It was 17 individuals! Hoid was there too!

    • @beepbop6542
      @beepbop6542 8 місяців тому

      Frost was also there, as I learned recently, but I don't know for sure if he's involved since I didn't read his story.

    • @aneonfoxtribute
      @aneonfoxtribute 8 місяців тому

      @@beepbop6542 I don't think we know that Frost was there?

  • @mikevasquez1103
    @mikevasquez1103 Рік тому +1

    I would like it if there was a shard named Discovery defined by the drive to explore.

  • @gustavolamego9913
    @gustavolamego9913 Рік тому

    theory with Mistborn era 2 spoilers!!!!! The unnamed shard is called survivor, and so who better to hold it than the survivor (kelsier)

  • @gawys28
    @gawys28 3 місяці тому

    Harmony fav

  • @mareau2193
    @mareau2193 Рік тому

    While that is indeed the title of the second chapter, zero readers unfamiliar with the series will have any idea what that refers to.

  • @theoriesandsuppositions5553
    @theoriesandsuppositions5553 Рік тому +2

    What? I didn't know cultivation was a dragon. Is this a WoB?

    • @LoreoftheWorlds
      @LoreoftheWorlds  Рік тому +1

      Yep! Here ya go
      wob.coppermind.net/events/452/#e14564

    • @Ruminations09
      @Ruminations09 Рік тому

      Technically, the direct confirmation comes from a WoB, but it was figured out by the fandom before the WoB confirmation. Prior to Rhythm of War, the theory existed that Cultivation wad a dragon for a few reasons, the main one being how the Nightwatcher is described as serpant-like.
      The big hints, however, came from RoW itself. When Hoid told the story of The Dog and the Dragon, he mentioned that only one dragon lives on Roshar, and that "she" tends to keep to herself and "hides her true form". He then went on to describe someone remarkably similar to what we know about Cultivation.

  • @stinkytoby
    @stinkytoby Місяць тому

    Isn't one point of RoW to say that no two Shards are "diametrically opposed" like you said Ruin and Preservation are?
    If any Shard were diametrically opposed to Ruin, I'd rather think it to be Cultivation. And with that it feels easy to fall into the rabbithole of trying to group the Shards like the Scadrians grouped their metals

  • @supermonkey321
    @supermonkey321 Рік тому +1

    Harmony isn't a new Shard. It's been said by both Brandon and in the way Harmony himself speaks of the power he holds that Ruin and Preservation are both still separate Shards held by one vessel, creating a new entity, which is Harmony, which is two Shards in one being, but not combined into a new single Shard. So there are still 16 total Shards, rather than 15 now.

    • @salmonofknowledge3229
      @salmonofknowledge3229 Рік тому +1

      Could harmony absorb more shards? Like could it recombine all 16 shards? I know it's not likely to actually happen, but i do wonder..?

    • @supermonkey321
      @supermonkey321 Рік тому +1

      @@salmonofknowledge3229 Maybe, but I doubt it. I think Ruin and Preservation are a special case for several reasons, not the least of which is the fact that held together, they create a sort of balance, although that balance is very difficult for Harmony to control. I think if you added another shard, it would be too unwieldy, though who knows (besides Brandon) what would actually happen in that case. I suspect we will eventually (possibly 20+ years from now) find out what happens if a single person tries to hold all the shards at once, essentially recombining Adonalsium.

    • @jameskunz6590
      @jameskunz6590 9 місяців тому +1

      Brandon has said that the shards are intermingled now to the point that if Sazed were to die, he would drop the shard of Harmony. It would take effort and intent to split them again.

    • @beepbop6542
      @beepbop6542 8 місяців тому

      @@salmonofknowledge3229 That's definitely what Sanderson is foreshadowiing, but it could be a red herring, or maybe Sazed is only a fragment of the full story needed to reunite Adonalsium (if it will ever happen at all(which I think it will))

    • @beepbop6542
      @beepbop6542 8 місяців тому

      Like James said, they have been thoroughly fused, but are disharmonious (ironically), which is why Harmony is turning into Discord.

  • @AndreShouldBeWriting
    @AndreShouldBeWriting 8 місяців тому

    TIL: Invention vessel is called sadface.

  • @geoscope3399
    @geoscope3399 7 місяців тому

    Ok major spoilers for both but my two favorite vessels are:
    Sazed and terravangian

  • @fireguardianx
    @fireguardianx Рік тому +3

    One thing, a Vessel's intent also affects the Shard's intent, it's not a one way street....
    One example is of course, harmony, but also Odium and Ruin. As mentioned by our favourite world walker bard, Ruin's vessel was a genuinely good person, so while the shard is destructive in nature, it's ruin in a natural fation, Odium however, was taken by Raize, and because of this it became the menace of a shard it became... I imagine a better person taking it (like a certain someone of their dumb days) would be able to influence the shard to a less destructive course.

    • @undbiter65
      @undbiter65 4 місяці тому

      The shards intent overrides vessels intent. Look at ruin. It's vessel was one of the kindest people ever supposed.

  • @adrianvalladares7564
    @adrianvalladares7564 Рік тому

    After catching up on Stormlight Archive up to Rhythm of War (minus the novellas), I can say that if ANY shard needs to be splintered/destroyed, it's Odium. That Shard is WAY too dangerous and Cultivation should have planned for splintering it rather doing what she did in RoW.

    • @beepbop6542
      @beepbop6542 8 місяців тому

      He's basically the strongest shard, so it'd be pretty hard to shatter him. Also remember: The shards cannot act against their own Intent. Unless cultivation dies and is inherited by someone new (Like preservation being inherited and used to destroy ruin before the personality becomes too strong), cultivation has to work through humans to achieve her goal.

  • @Kody2905
    @Kody2905 11 місяців тому

    I thought hemalurgy was ruin, feruchemy was preservation, and alumancy was the combined?

    • @jameskunz6590
      @jameskunz6590 9 місяців тому

      Hemalurgy is Ruin, Allomancy is Preservation. Feruchemy is the balance/interplay between them.

    • @beepbop6542
      @beepbop6542 8 місяців тому +1

      It's wierd and kind of contradictory to be honest, but allommancy is pure Preservation, while Hemalurgy is pure Ruin. I do agree that Feruchemy should be preservation and both together should be allomancy (it just makes sense - the whole point is that you need BOTH to create life).

  • @guy_bello
    @guy_bello Рік тому

    What of the 17th shard?

    • @beepbop6542
      @beepbop6542 8 місяців тому

      There's only 16 original, but you could count Harmony as a brand new 17th shard (fusing of preservation and ruin)

  • @benjamincameron3427
    @benjamincameron3427 Рік тому +1

    ***about the spoiler shard***
    Harmony, more like Discord am I right gamers

  • @darrenpinnegar5740
    @darrenpinnegar5740 Рік тому

    My favorite shard is Trel

    • @beepbop6542
      @beepbop6542 8 місяців тому

      Technically not a real shard, I don't think

  • @spoonbender3062
    @spoonbender3062 Рік тому

    Great video, though you're better off talking full spoilers since this is already fairly spoilery.

  • @KaydianBladebreaker
    @KaydianBladebreaker Рік тому

    Aparrently, cats are the source of your Investiture 😀

  • @a_raconteur
    @a_raconteur 4 місяці тому

    I feel prophecy is a nice name for a shard but I am not as well read as I would like to be.

    • @LoreoftheWorlds
      @LoreoftheWorlds  4 місяці тому +1

      That would be a fantastic shard to explore the Cosmere principle of fortune!

  • @ismailhussain7679
    @ismailhussain7679 3 місяці тому

    Music is so loud in the back for

  • @jadecharper1
    @jadecharper1 Рік тому +3

    My theory is that the 16th shard is the 11th pancake

    • @wingracer1614
      @wingracer1614 Рік тому +1

      We may have just got the name of the 16th shard in secret project 1

    • @Ruminations09
      @Ruminations09 Рік тому

      @@wingracer1614What are you referring to? Lumar - the world of Secret Project 1 - isn't a Shardworld

    • @wingracer1614
      @wingracer1614 Рік тому

      @@Ruminations09 I never said it was

    • @Ruminations09
      @Ruminations09 Рік тому

      @@wingracer1614 Yes, I know. Hence my question: what are you referring to?

    • @wingracer1614
      @wingracer1614 Рік тому

      @@Ruminations09 I don't remember now. It was being discussed in one of the Tress videos. Something Hoid said I'm sure.

  • @thestralspirit
    @thestralspirit 10 місяців тому +1

    At 2:33 you said 16... For a while I was suspecting it was actually 17 because of several things prior to the confirmation in Tress of the Emerald Sea. Mainly because of several offhand comments about how Hoid was offered the responsibility but turned it down.
    I realize now that this video came out before the effective confirmation in Tress.. But if you wanted to find it the reference was in the middle of chapter 56
    Additionally, I think technically Honor and Cultivation splintered themselves too. The spren are often referred to as splinters and we know they existed before Odium got there.
    Finally, I am undecided on a favorite shard. However, I am a big fan of stamps