Thanks for the vid. Am all in favor of white elastomeric roof paint directly on conventional pitched asphalt shingle roofs. It works well. I painted Home Depot Henry brand/Lowes Black Jack brand (several other brands exist) white roof paint with a conventional 9" paint roller on a stick, least expensive grade directly on my conventional asphalt shingle roof in 2008. Applied about 4 coats to completely seal any gaps, especially where one shingle overlaps atop its downhill neighbor shingle. Used aluminum tape to seal bigger than 1/4" gaps or wherever bolstering needed, such as a protrusion from the roof or where a nailhead appears atop the shingle layer around the perimeter of the roof every 1-2 feet or so, then painted over the aluminum tape with white roof paint. In 2017, 9 years later, it's still going strong. Much cheaper than a reroof, saves on cooling bills, seals leaks and stops new leaks. Also painted the drip lip around the perimeter of the roof so precipitation touches nothing but white roof paint til it hits the ground. Don't like white? Paint over the white with the exterior grade paint of your choice of color, including the same color as your old shingles if you prefer. As a test, painted an inconspicuous piece of the roof with the date in mid 2015 in a dark color. In 2017, it looks like it was painted on yesterday, with no visible wear. On the elastomeric white roof paint can label, it may say don't apply on shingles. Ignore this if your asphalt shingles are pitched conventional or pitched rolled and aged over 30 days. The white roof paint adheres very well when painted directly on the aged shingles.
Kevin Pullman I'm a journeyman roofer with 4 decades experience roofing sloped residential roofing as well as flat commercial & industrial roofing ,I agree with every application method you used with exception of 1 ,which is when a " nail pop " is popped up above a shingle, jail pops are common on roofs installed with air nailers, to effect a professional repair pull the jail with a flat bar ,then use the flat bar to lift up the shingle with a hole in it ,once lifted you'll see a hole straight thru your roof ,this is where you take a metal flash card and slide it under the shingle and over the hole thru the roof ,then place just a dab of polyurethane caulk or black jack caulk tube tar over the nail hole from the bottom side of the shingle tab ,then run a light head of black jack around the outer edges of the shingle tab so when you push it down it's glued to the roof ,the way you did it with aluminum tape worked and hasn't failed but it can ,even if you don't want to mess around sliding flash cards under jail holes you still want to always remove the nail, if the shingle is too old to lift up ,or is baked together then just use your paint brush and rub a good glob of Henreys coating into the hole and double coat that tab ,Henreys " Cool White " elastomeric roof coating is awesome and I use the hell out of it on my rental homes ,we currently own 62 rental homes in good middle class neighborhoods where an ugly roof will drive gold tenants away ,on homes where a white shingle roof would look appropriate we just use the Henreys cool white ,but on homes where a white roof would look like hell I use the Terra Cotta or Brown colors Home Depot will special order ,Henreys will also color match your homes paint scheme and make a custom color batch for you & ship it to Home Depot ,I've had Henerys make us up an entire pallet of Dark Bronze for the condo complex we own where the roofs are half standing seam metal roofs and half shingles, the metal roofs are dark bronze so we had to have the custom color ,we coated those roofs 6 yrs ago this June and not 1 single roof leak or discoloring of the material ,I agree with you that Henerys roof coatings are exceptionally good products ,the only roof coating I've used that's better quality than Henerys is made by the Garland Company called White Knight but it's over $200 for a 5 gallon pail and also requires a expensive primer . The best way I've found to make Henerys last the longest is we use a paste brush to coat all the shingle weeps " spaces between 3 tabs " and we also brush coat the long runs where the edge of the shingles overlap the previous course ,once that's done we use 12 inch wide thick bristle push Brooms to apply the coating ,I avoid using sprayers because the coating then just lays on top vs being rubbed into the granules ,we always 2 coat every roof we use Henerys on so for the final coat we use wool paint rollers on heavy duty frames ,anybody who tells you that Henerys roof coatings are junk is an idiot, I'm retired from professional roofing being I'm 72 yrs old but before I retired my company used hundreds of thousands of gallons of Henerys coatings on Ford Motors cap sheet flat roofs, public school systems with sloped cap sheet roofs and metal panel roofs ,the only times I've seen Henerys not work excellent is when the roof surface wasn't properly cleaned or primed .
@@petersawiris933 I been in the waterproofing industry as well as working under a roofing union shop, I seen many things in my life but your reasoning is way out of context and understanding of liquid membrane systems is deceiving. The roof does not need to breathe.
Thank you for the incredibly useful comment about your experience coating shingle roof. Based on your information, I decided to coat my roof with cheaper elastomeric coating instead of expensive silicone coating like Henry tropicool. I hope elastomeric coating can do good job of keeping rain out. Based on people who gave very bad feed back on home depot elastomeric coating, it looks like elastomeric coating takes long time to dry/cure and should not be exposed to rain for weeks after painting, as it can be washed away by rain before it can fully cure. Henry does have product targeting specifically asphalt roof - "roof saver 812" and "shingle guard 612" which come in 0.9 gallon pails (no 5 gallon bucket available). What turned me off from these product was claim that 0.9 gallon can cover 200 sq feet. Which seem wildly optimistic. Also product weight varied quite a bit when I took the scale to Home depot and weighted various "roof saver" cans.. Anywhere from 7.5 lbs to 9.5 lbs with no consistency which indicate Henry is doing very poor job of production quality control, at least for their asphalt shingle coating products.
@@petersawiris933 Actually you make a good point, moisture could be an issue under shingles and despite what the other so-called “expert” said, shingle systems can and do breathe, albeit only a small amount and I think what he's trying to say is that they are not necessarily designed to do so. Regardless I propose that in extreme scenarios it could be an issue however there are ways to get around this and I would say that in drier climates this probably is not an issue. I think it's probably fine as long as you do not live in an extremely wet environment and you have good attic ventilation. I have a client with a shingle roof and he has been coating it since 1958 as far as I know he has not had any mold or issues but this is Los Angeles. as far as my credentials I am a third generation certified master roofer, a state licensed roofing contractor and I've been running a roofing company with a very good reputation for decades.
if this is not for flat roofs, what do you recommend for flat roof sections over patios that use the asphalt roll? It's about 15' wide by maybe 30 foot long. It's 23 years old and doesn't leak but it's lost most of it's little rocks and is blistering in a few spots. Hoping to get a couple more years out of it before replacing.
Thank you for your question, To provide you with the best possible answer, we would need more information about your particular situation. Please reach out to our Technical Support department at service@techniseal.com or phone us toll-free at 1 800 465 7325.
Dude.... since this guy won't give you an answer, don't buy Acrylic or this elastic product ever! .... Just go to Home depot and buy Urethanizer. You'll thank me later. Been dealing with flat roofs my whole life and there is nothing better than anything that has Urethane.
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If can't be used on leaky roof what's the point of using this I want something that's coats roof seals minor leaks and extends its life Otherwise I'd just paint my kitchen and put new shingles on the roof
Have you read the instructions/label of this product? Is to preserve the roof NOT to fix it. If you have a leaky roof, you need to fix it first and then do the coating. Also if your roof is old and the shingles are done, you'll need to do the roof again. I know it is a bummer, but house comes with cost ;) Techniseal has amazing products, i used this one for my roof and it looks just amazing. It doest make it stronger. I have way less shingles residues on the gutters .
i love the comments by the know it alls and the roofer "specialists" that must spend lots of time surfing the web looking for things to bitch about. if you spent more time earning a living and minding your own business you would have less time to complain about the struggles of others trying to make a living or share their experiences.
So a roofer should never be on the internet? We should just work nonstop all of the time? What a really ignorant thing to say. Here you are bitching about something and adding absolutely no context to the video. You just came here surfing the web to bitch, how fucking ironic and what a hypocrite. Maybe you ought to be spending more time minding your business and earning a living.
@@kevinwaller6353 Amen brother ,id bet a weeks pay the guy doing the crying isnt even a real roofer,a shingler maybe but i garantee he dont know how to install a 4 ply hot coal tar pitch roof,or a 1/4 inch per foot slope tapered insulation system covered by a Thermastic " Hot Rubberized Asphalt " system,or a Burmastic " Cold applied asphalt BUR " system ,or even a simple Firestone 60 mil EPDM system,yet here he is bitching at real roofers who are here to wittness a home owner who was sold snake oil having magic sauce applied over shingles that are secured using my wifes staple gun .
I completed the 4 years of trade school required to earn my Journeymans card in Roofing & Waterproofing in 1981 ,ive been a senior foreman at the countrys largest union roofing contractor for 22 years overseeing jobs as large as 11,000 square ,ive applied tens of thousands of square in cold tar spray down Built Up Roofing and as many square in premium roof coatings ,in my 42 years as a Master Waterproofer ive never seen any manufacturer specify a shingle tab be stapled down,or even nailed down with exposed fasteners protected by nothing more than a 20 to 30 mil thick top coating ,the home owner would be just as well burning $100 bills once an hour for 24 hours as they would be having shingle tabs stapled down with some magic sauce sprayed over the roofing system .
Read between the lines my friend......dab them during prep...and carry on...if that's the best criticism u could come up with all your bogus credentials...then he's done an excellent job....I own a bunch of properties and I've roofed my fair share...its not rocket science...Mr PhD waterproofer....gtfo here with that man
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Everything causes cancer. Absolutely everything and if something doesn't cause cancer I can guarantee you it's a shitty product and won't work as intended
There’s a lot of stupid people out there. If you have a leaky old roof than replace it. This isn’t for fixing old leaky roofs. If you have a good roof and just want to change the color so it looks better with your house paint then here’s the solution. Roofers will always want you to spend $15-$30k to replace a good roof just to change the color.
Good Afternoon, Our range of products for the maintenance and protection of asphalt shingles and roofing materials is available in Canada only. In 1975, Canada adopted Celsius as its standard temperature measurement unit when it switched from the imperial to the metric measurement system.
Yeah, USA is one of the left over countries that forgot to adapt to metric system that the whole world uses. Time for a change? Joke aside, we are also having trouble when we visit the USA, miles to km, or gallon to liter is OK but converting F to C is not easy.
Never under any circumstances and I mean never should you coat a shingle roof. This is completely insane to even suggest to people. This will create tens of thousands of water traps and make leaks appear throughout the entire roof. The shingles repaired around the chimney were not even staggered. That is just absolutely the worst way to install shingles as the purpose of the proper installation is to lap all shingle in a 6" weaved pattern to prevent water intrusion. There is no way in the world that a coating would seal a non-staggered shingle joint. That just is scientifically impossible. Those shingles appeared to have 6 or more years left to them depending on the environment so why would you even consider coating them and destroying them? You can not in no way long term prevent water from getting under the coating and it's all down hill from there. Every time I have seen any attempt to coat shingles it has failed miserably and I have seen many of them. It is my professional opinion suggested by this video that Techniseal does not have a good understanding of how coatings work and/or fail miserably.
I been in the waterproofing industry as well as working under a roofing union shop, I seen many things in my life but your reasoning is way out of context and understanding of liquid membrane systems is deceiving. The roof does not need to breathe either.
There are shops which professionally coat shingle roof to extend it's life. So it must work at least to reasonable extent for professionals to offer this service.
@@springer-qb4dv No it doesn't not in the least bit. It actually creates more of a problem and honestly I don't know of one company in existence that does it nor have I seen any roofs with it done because it just does not work. I have 30+ years of roofing experience.
@@kevinwaller6353 Here is a video by professional roof firm which does both recoating and re-roofing: ua-cam.com/video/Ck8aRsxh_d4/v-deo.html "75-80% of customers choose re-coating their roof"
@@springer-qb4dv, just because someone convinces someone to pay for something doesn't mean it's a good idea. I have been roofing for 30 years and never have I seen where someone applied a coating to shingles that held up. After a short period of time the it will begin to peel and create areas for water to get in and get trapped which will eventually go somewhere. You'll never convince me of this. You have zero years of roofing experience and I have 30. I have more than a video to go by.
Thanks for the vid. Am all in favor of white elastomeric roof paint directly on conventional pitched asphalt shingle roofs. It works well. I painted Home Depot Henry brand/Lowes Black Jack brand (several other brands exist) white roof paint with a conventional 9" paint roller on a stick, least expensive grade directly on my conventional asphalt shingle roof in 2008. Applied about 4 coats to completely seal any gaps, especially where one shingle overlaps atop its downhill neighbor shingle. Used aluminum tape to seal bigger than 1/4" gaps or wherever bolstering needed, such as a protrusion from the roof or where a nailhead appears atop the shingle layer around the perimeter of the roof every 1-2 feet or so, then painted over the aluminum tape with white roof paint. In 2017, 9 years later, it's still going strong. Much cheaper than a reroof, saves on cooling bills, seals leaks and stops new leaks. Also painted the drip lip around the perimeter of the roof so precipitation touches nothing but white roof paint til it hits the ground. Don't like white? Paint over the white with the exterior grade paint of your choice of color, including the same color as your old shingles if you prefer. As a test, painted an inconspicuous piece of the roof with the date in mid 2015 in a dark color. In 2017, it looks like it was painted on yesterday, with no visible wear. On the elastomeric white roof paint can label, it may say don't apply on shingles. Ignore this if your asphalt shingles are pitched conventional or pitched rolled and aged over 30 days. The white roof paint adheres very well when painted directly on the aged shingles.
Kevin Pullman I'm a journeyman roofer with 4 decades experience roofing sloped residential roofing as well as flat commercial & industrial roofing ,I agree with every application method you used with exception of 1 ,which is when a " nail pop " is popped up above a shingle, jail pops are common on roofs installed with air nailers, to effect a professional repair pull the jail with a flat bar ,then use the flat bar to lift up the shingle with a hole in it ,once lifted you'll see a hole straight thru your roof ,this is where you take a metal flash card and slide it under the shingle and over the hole thru the roof ,then place just a dab of polyurethane caulk or black jack caulk tube tar over the nail hole from the bottom side of the shingle tab ,then run a light head of black jack around the outer edges of the shingle tab so when you push it down it's glued to the roof ,the way you did it with aluminum tape worked and hasn't failed but it can ,even if you don't want to mess around sliding flash cards under jail holes you still want to always remove the nail, if the shingle is too old to lift up ,or is baked together then just use your paint brush and rub a good glob of Henreys coating into the hole and double coat that tab ,Henreys " Cool White " elastomeric roof coating is awesome and I use the hell out of it on my rental homes ,we currently own 62 rental homes in good middle class neighborhoods where an ugly roof will drive gold tenants away ,on homes where a white shingle roof would look appropriate we just use the Henreys cool white ,but on homes where a white roof would look like hell I use the Terra Cotta or Brown colors Home Depot will special order ,Henreys will also color match your homes paint scheme and make a custom color batch for you & ship it to Home Depot ,I've had Henerys make us up an entire pallet of Dark Bronze for the condo complex we own where the roofs are half standing seam metal roofs and half shingles, the metal roofs are dark bronze so we had to have the custom color ,we coated those roofs 6 yrs ago this June and not 1 single roof leak or discoloring of the material ,I agree with you that Henerys roof coatings are exceptionally good products ,the only roof coating I've used that's better quality than Henerys is made by the Garland Company called White Knight but it's over $200 for a 5 gallon pail and also requires a expensive primer .
The best way I've found to make Henerys last the longest is we use a paste brush to coat all the shingle weeps " spaces between 3 tabs " and we also brush coat the long runs where the edge of the shingles overlap the previous course ,once that's done we use 12 inch wide thick bristle push Brooms to apply the coating ,I avoid using sprayers because the coating then just lays on top vs being rubbed into the granules ,we always 2 coat every roof we use Henerys on so for the final coat we use wool paint rollers on heavy duty frames ,anybody who tells you that Henerys roof coatings are junk is an idiot, I'm retired from professional roofing being I'm 72 yrs old but before I retired my company used hundreds of thousands of gallons of Henerys coatings on Ford Motors cap sheet flat roofs, public school systems with sloped cap sheet roofs and metal panel roofs ,the only times I've seen Henerys not work excellent is when the roof surface wasn't properly cleaned or primed .
i though this was the best way to destroy shingles because they cannot "breath" after they are coated?
@@petersawiris933 I been in the waterproofing industry as well as working under a roofing
union shop, I seen many things in my life but your reasoning is way out
of context and understanding of liquid membrane systems is deceiving.
The roof does not need to breathe.
Thank you for the incredibly useful comment about your experience coating shingle roof. Based on your information, I decided to coat my roof with cheaper elastomeric coating instead of expensive silicone coating like Henry tropicool. I hope elastomeric coating can do good job of keeping rain out. Based on people who gave very bad feed back on home depot elastomeric coating, it looks like elastomeric coating takes long time to dry/cure and should not be exposed to rain for weeks after painting, as it can be washed away by rain before it can fully cure. Henry does have product targeting specifically asphalt roof - "roof saver 812" and "shingle guard 612" which come in 0.9 gallon pails (no 5 gallon bucket available). What turned me off from these product was claim that 0.9 gallon can cover 200 sq feet. Which seem wildly optimistic. Also product weight varied quite a bit when I took the scale to Home depot and weighted various "roof saver" cans.. Anywhere from 7.5 lbs to 9.5 lbs with no consistency which indicate Henry is doing very poor job of production quality control, at least for their asphalt shingle coating products.
@@petersawiris933 Actually you make a good point, moisture could be an issue under shingles and despite what the other so-called “expert” said, shingle systems can and do breathe, albeit only a small amount and I think what he's trying to say is that they are not necessarily designed to do so. Regardless I propose that in extreme scenarios it could be an issue however there are ways to get around this and I would say that in drier climates this probably is not an issue. I think it's probably fine as long as you do not live in an extremely wet environment and you have good attic ventilation. I have a client with a shingle roof and he has been coating it since 1958 as far as I know he has not had any mold or issues but this is Los Angeles. as far as my credentials I am a third generation certified master roofer, a state licensed roofing contractor and I've been running a roofing company with a very good reputation for decades.
if this is not for flat roofs, what do you recommend for flat roof sections over patios that use the asphalt roll? It's about 15' wide by maybe 30 foot long. It's 23 years old and doesn't leak but it's lost most of it's little rocks and is blistering in a few spots. Hoping to get a couple more years out of it before replacing.
Thank you for your question,
To provide you with the best possible answer, we would need more information about your particular situation.
Please reach out to our Technical Support department at service@techniseal.com or phone us toll-free at 1 800 465 7325.
Dude.... since this guy won't give you an answer, don't buy Acrylic or this elastic product ever! .... Just go to Home depot and buy Urethanizer. You'll thank me later. Been dealing with flat roofs my whole life and there is nothing better than anything that has Urethane.
@@HFH-Official I'll look into that. Still haven't done anything yet. thankyou
I use epoc 301 black asphault covered 1400 sq feet used 50 gallons
Where do you buy this? I can't find it anywhere. I'm located in USA and it's not for sale on website or ebay or Amazon.
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Homedepot should carry this. Theya re a reseller. or you can order it from Homedepot.
Fabulous idea
If can't be used on leaky roof what's the point of using this
I want something that's coats roof seals minor leaks and extends its life
Otherwise I'd just paint my kitchen and put new shingles on the roof
Have you read the instructions/label of this product? Is to preserve the roof NOT to fix it. If you have a leaky roof, you need to fix it first and then do the coating. Also if your roof is old and the shingles are done, you'll need to do the roof again. I know it is a bummer, but house comes with cost ;)
Techniseal has amazing products, i used this one for my roof and it looks just amazing. It doest make it stronger. I have way less shingles residues on the gutters .
i love the comments by the know it alls and the roofer "specialists" that must spend lots of time surfing the web looking for things to bitch about. if you spent more time earning a living and minding your own business you would have less time to complain about the struggles of others trying to make a living or share their experiences.
So a roofer should never be on the internet? We should just work nonstop all of the time? What a really ignorant thing to say. Here you are bitching about something and adding absolutely no context to the video. You just came here surfing the web to bitch, how fucking ironic and what a hypocrite. Maybe you ought to be spending more time minding your business and earning a living.
@@kevinwaller6353 Amen brother ,id bet a weeks pay the guy doing the crying isnt even a real roofer,a shingler maybe but i garantee he dont know how to install a 4 ply hot coal tar pitch roof,or a 1/4 inch per foot slope tapered insulation system covered by a Thermastic " Hot Rubberized Asphalt " system,or a Burmastic " Cold applied asphalt BUR " system ,or even a simple Firestone 60 mil EPDM system,yet here he is bitching at real roofers who are here to wittness a home owner who was sold snake oil having magic sauce applied over shingles that are secured using my wifes staple gun .
I have been doing industrial roofs for 11 years and residential for 4 years, this is the most retarded thing I have ever seen
Who sells this
I completed the 4 years of trade school required to earn my Journeymans card in Roofing & Waterproofing in 1981 ,ive been a senior foreman at the countrys largest union roofing contractor for 22 years overseeing jobs as large as 11,000 square ,ive applied tens of thousands of square in cold tar spray down Built Up Roofing and as many square in premium roof coatings ,in my 42 years as a Master Waterproofer ive never seen any manufacturer specify a shingle tab be stapled down,or even nailed down with exposed fasteners protected by nothing more than a 20 to 30 mil thick top coating ,the home owner would be just as well burning $100 bills once an hour for 24 hours as they would be having shingle tabs stapled down with some magic sauce sprayed over the roofing system .
Read between the lines my friend......dab them during prep...and carry on...if that's the best criticism u could come up with all your bogus credentials...then he's done an excellent job....I own a bunch of properties and I've roofed my fair share...its not rocket science...Mr PhD waterproofer....gtfo here with that man
How much leter
Great info. Thanks for vid. The product doesn't appear on the website. Thanks
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Do this product cause cancer
Cool... Don't eat it then.
Everything causes cancer. Absolutely everything and if something doesn't cause cancer I can guarantee you it's a shitty product and won't work as intended
There’s a lot of stupid people out there. If you have a leaky old roof than replace it. This isn’t for fixing old leaky roofs. If you have a good roof and just want to change the color so it looks better with your house paint then here’s the solution. Roofers will always want you to spend $15-$30k to replace a good roof just to change the color.
Celsius? We’re in America bro
Good Afternoon,
Our range of products for the maintenance and protection of asphalt shingles and roofing materials is available in Canada only.
In 1975, Canada adopted Celsius as its standard temperature measurement unit when it switched from the imperial to the metric measurement system.
All normal world using Celsius and Metric :))
Yeah, USA is one of the left over countries that forgot to adapt to metric system that the whole world uses. Time for a change? Joke aside, we are also having trouble when we visit the USA, miles to km, or gallon to liter is OK but converting F to C is not easy.
That tie off point is the dumbest shit I've seen. If that guy trips over his own rope he will definitely hit the ground with all that slack
Never under any circumstances and I mean never should you coat a shingle roof. This is completely insane to even suggest to people. This will create tens of thousands of water traps and make leaks appear throughout the entire roof. The shingles repaired around the chimney were not even staggered. That is just absolutely the worst way to install shingles as the purpose of the proper installation is to lap all shingle in a 6" weaved pattern to prevent water intrusion. There is no way in the world that a coating would seal a non-staggered shingle joint. That just is scientifically impossible. Those shingles appeared to have 6 or more years left to them depending on the environment so why would you even consider coating them and destroying them? You can not in no way long term prevent water from getting under the coating and it's all down hill from there. Every time I have seen any attempt to coat shingles it has failed miserably and I have seen many of them. It is my professional opinion suggested by this video that Techniseal does not have a good understanding of how coatings work and/or fail miserably.
I been in the waterproofing industry as well as working under a roofing union shop, I seen many things in my life but your reasoning is way out of context and understanding of liquid membrane systems is deceiving. The roof does not need to breathe either.
There are shops which professionally coat shingle roof to extend it's life. So it must work at least to reasonable extent for professionals to offer this service.
@@springer-qb4dv No it doesn't not in the least bit. It actually creates more of a problem and honestly I don't know of one company in existence that does it nor have I seen any roofs with it done because it just does not work. I have 30+ years of roofing experience.
@@kevinwaller6353 Here is a video by professional roof firm which does both recoating and re-roofing:
ua-cam.com/video/Ck8aRsxh_d4/v-deo.html
"75-80% of customers choose re-coating their roof"
@@springer-qb4dv, just because someone convinces someone to pay for something doesn't mean it's a good idea. I have been roofing for 30 years and never have I seen where someone applied a coating to shingles that held up. After a short period of time the it will begin to peel and create areas for water to get in and get trapped which will eventually go somewhere. You'll never convince me of this. You have zero years of roofing experience and I have 30. I have more than a video to go by.