@@mickeydiamant4507 If you want a pristine and glassy clean sound then this isn't the amp for you. The cleans are nice but it doesn't have that top end sparkle like a Blackface Fender has. I would say the cleans are smooth and veer slightly towards a typical jazz sound. I like to use a bluesbreaker pedal as an always on clean boost to add a bit of depth and a touch of eq to my base clean sound. This amp likes pedals and likes to be driven, that's what it does best.
Looks like it’s taking aim at the blues Junior, Great review of the amp, seems like Dagan was having some fun, can’t wait to find one at the local guitar store to hear what it sounds like in person… Cheers
Here are my two cents: I have tried A LOT speakers in this amp, modern and originals. For clean jazz tone the legend L 1218 is the best I have tried so far in it. A 16 ohmed G12T75 modern takes out the low mids so makes it sound very sparkly and fendery- good if you want to. A vintage V30 that had a dense steely tone- good for slide guitar. Greenbacks sound very woody, but are not my top choice. G1265- similar to the stock HH 1265 in many ways, very nice. The best was an EVM12L, original, in a thiele cab. And the best overall was an Eminence 16 ohm Lady Luck- unbelievable speaker. So good it make me email Eminence to ask for similar contemporary speakers of them (lady lauck is an OEM Emily speaker) and they informed me that their currently produced equivalents are the CV 75/ 65, Reignmaker, Governor and Legend L1275recommended- and they are correct, you may go with any of these!!! From Celestions for this amp I recommend: Alnico blue, gold, cream, ruby. G12H anniversary- not the Heritage. Any Creamback, especially the H75. V type first, A type second. G1265/ T75. 70-80/ G12P80. From Eminence those I mentioned first plus the GA SC64 plus many others. From Jensen C12N, K2, P12. This amp packs a lot of punchiness, boominess and low mids due to circuit design and small enclosure so you may need to compensate for that with the speaker choices. It is a GREAT amp, totally recommended.
Hi. That’s really interesting to hear as I have one of these amps and love it - but I’d like to try different speakers just to see if I can get just a little bit more out of it (and just for the sheer fun of messing with gear if you know what I mean!) How did you try all those different speakers with the amp? Did you physically swap the speakers out each time or did you mount the different speakers in an external cab and use the speaker out on the amp? If so presumably the cab that the different speakers was mounted in would have some impact on the sound? Can I also ask what you mean when you say the Greenback sounds ‘woody’? And any thoughts on the Celestion EVH G12? I’m no expert on speakers, and this is my first tube amp, but whenever I’ve used modellers or IRs, the Greenback models or captures /IRs are always the ones I prefer the sound of, so in my head I’ll like the real thing…
@@littlespaceman Greenbacks suit this amp. All types of them. The EVH Greenback is just another type of Greenback, nothing special. Other speakers that really suit this amp is G12H Anniversary, various Alnico speakers, also Jensens, Eminences, Webers etc. The stock speaker also suits it a REAL lot at least for my taste! Some speakers with very big and deep magnets don't fit in, Cub has a small cab. It all comes down to taste, purpose and experimentation. And musical genre intended! All I did was physical swapping and also external cabs. Nothing digital.
@@littlespaceman also, my post is a little bit old. Now I would totally recommend any Greenback too. What is "woody"? A down to earth sound, full of mids of all kinds.
@@littlespaceman listen, if you love greenbacks, put one in, it's gonna match and it's a classic choice (I would still prefer a G12H Anniversary though for those british timbres). You will never get real bass from a lightweight speaker. On the other hand, heavy duty speakers sound really dull and muffled at low volumes. Lightweight cones, magnets etc are more transparent for cleans. Heavy duty speakers handle distortion better. And so on and so on. Not one thing does everything.
Thank you! That’s all really helpful. Interesting you mention how some speakers don’t sound so good at low volumes as to be honest I’ll mostly be playing this amp at low volume (home use) In terms of the sort of sound I’m after, I love the ‘classic rock’ sort of sound, and I love the fact that the Super Cub has a lot of gain to play with too. In my head I think some type of of Greenback is the sound for me, but as I mentioned I’ve only ever heard models or captures of them, never tried a real one. The problem with mounting one in the Laney to try is presumably you can’t really return a speaker that you’ve mounted and tried? 🙄😏 I do see some great reviews of the EVH G12, so that sounds like something that I’d like to try
Which is better, this super laney or the Blues Júnior? Is Dsl20cr interesting too? It is to be used as a pedal platform. Can you handle rehearsals and small shows? 
Have you gigged with 10w valve amps? :O do you recommend it? Thinking about the super10 👀 just for the price and right now is on stock in my country, so no cubsuper12. Thanks in advance
@@ChrisFariasMusic I've never gigged with a 10w amp, but it's more than doable, if the venue has a PA system, which 99% do, you could gig with a 1 watt amp if you needed to. I say if the amp you're wanting is at the right price, pull the trigger. Unless it's an overly large gig or they don't have a PA system, then you'll be alright
@@dreamlikeproblems sounds legit to me hahah because for gigs with too many people they usually have a PA for sure, but small gigs, like 50 to 100 people I mean because I think that's where I aim, so I wanted to know if those 10W of the cub super10 would do the job :o because I'm thinking on that amp in particular since there's no stock of the cub super12, thank you for answering!
@@ChrisFariasMusicA 10w amp will you do great for 50 to 100 people, unless you're looking for a clean amp. Then you'll need another 10ish watts on top of that. But if you're just wanting a amp and you don't mind some crunch for a small venue, then the super10 will do the job excellently
'Boutique amp' vs 'budget amp'. Friend of mine is an experienced technician, according to him this is a tweaked Monoprice/Harley Benton Tube15 amp (or the other way round). It has the same circuit and components (except for the speaker), same sound and volume too, but at double the price. Even the knobs and the connections at the back panel are identical. This one doesn't have a physical spring reverb however, just a digital one. They split the 1-15 Watt attenuator switch into 2 inputs and added the 'boost' function. You can buy one hell of a boost pedal for half of the money that this amp costs. LOL. Basically you pay double money for an extra input, a transistor boost that costs $5 max and better QC. Did you research that?
Good catch. I was considering this, but you are right. The cheaper amps have the effects loop, speaker out and and the 1w setting - for half the price. No contest, I'll take the Harley Benton.
@@xcx8646 My Harley Benton Tube 15 is still going great after 2.5 or 3 years or so and has kept its place next to my Marshall DSL and EVH 5150 Stealth. It sounds great on its own but when hooked to one of my 2x12s (Vintage 30s and Greenbacks), it's just amazing. A great pedal platform too, it has taken everything I have thrown at it so far, even pedals that sound like crap on the Marshall (I own loads of pedals, mostly gain). Can't go wrong for the money, if you don't like it for some reason you can send it back. At Thomann they have split the HB Tube15 into separate amp and speakercab now, so you can buy 2 components, but that combination is more expensive than the combo and with 10" speaker cab only, no matching 12 inch no more. I have no clue what they tried to achieve there, except maybe for portability or easier combining with other gear.
Had the previous version, Laney Cub 15 head and matching 212 cab. Loved the sound but couldn’t play with a band. Couldn’t cut through with acoustic drums. I was really frustrated because I absolutely loved the sound but it didn’t matter because I couldn’t be heard. I’d love to try this one but there are no Laney dealers within 100+ miles of me with the exception of mail order and that’s only Zzounds that I can find.
The boost circuit is new for the super cub and the reverbs are apparently different. Other than that there might be some minor inner differences, and of course they look different.
This demo does NOT do this amp justice. Might be the microphone choice, but Laney Cubs don't sound like that. It sounds tinny and scratchy (listening through decent studio monitors). I have a Cub12 and it's fantastic in person.
I had a HT-5R mkII for 2 months and ended up selling it. I found the overdrive channel very unusable: it went from no sound to full metal in 1 mm twist. The clean channel should work fine with pedals (which I did not want to use at home) but then again, why buy an amp where you cannot use 1/2 of the features. The Laney seems a lot more usable since you can get to high gain by setting the boost on, while still keeping the possibility of having lower gain crunch. My 2 cents.
@@yunketronikoThanks it was very helpful. Usually i don't expect good results from overdrive channel on any amp. I always play clean with klon type pedal + tube screamer. I play Philip Sayce, Mayer and Hendrix stuff you know? Does the clean channel in HT5R sound full and warmth at low volumes? I used have a Yamaha THR10 but i was tired of boxy sound from tiny speakers. I want something more real
@@viniciusgusmao796 I thought the cleans were good and the tone control + the 2 voices are very versatile. But keep in mind that it has no gain knob for the clean channel, only volume and the EQ knobs only work for the OD channel. The built-in attenuator is great. That amp sounded big (in my opinion), I have a THR30ii nowadays due to family restrictions but the HT-5 sounded way bigger and moved a lot of air. Good luck!
Why not play 10 seconds of clean tones out of the 15:47 minutes of OD? The "clean" part at the beginning unfortunately had already quite a lot of dirt.
I think he got killer sounds out of the amp. Great demo Dagan! This is exactly what I’m looking for to pair with my 12” Celestion Greenback for bedroom Rock tones.
Don't bother buying a Laney Cub Super 12. I got sent a faulty one, which their own tech agreed was faulty. Retailer told me that they could not send a replacement because ALL CUB SUPERS HAD CABINET RATTLE and I SHOULD NOT EXPECT TO GIG OR RECORD WITH ONE. Laney supported this.
this demo of this amp sounds puny. There is another demo amp on UA-cam and it sounds much fuller and seriously rock ready. I wonder why the radical difference in sound?
Can confirm that this amp sounds better in person and I have been really happy with mine. Highly recommend testing one out if you can find it locally.
Thank you for sharing. How is the clean sound?
@@mickeydiamant4507 If you want a pristine and glassy clean sound then this isn't the amp for you. The cleans are nice but it doesn't have that top end sparkle like a Blackface Fender has. I would say the cleans are smooth and veer slightly towards a typical jazz sound. I like to use a bluesbreaker pedal as an always on clean boost to add a bit of depth and a touch of eq to my base clean sound. This amp likes pedals and likes to be driven, that's what it does best.
@@Michael-pm1tq Thank you very much
Hey is it more like a rock amp? I’m looking for a Clapton/ Hendrix tone without breaking the bank
@@Michael-pm1tq Oh well, the jazz sound is exactly what I'm looking for, I don't like high treble like Fenders have.
Sounds really killer for such an affordable amp. No surprise for Cub owners though :-) Laney definitely should get more attention worldwide IMO.
Looks like it’s taking aim at the blues Junior, Great review of the amp, seems like Dagan was having some fun, can’t wait to find one at the local guitar store to hear what it sounds like in person…
Cheers
My brother bought sounds amazing and the other awesome thing it weighs 25 lbs compared to most fenders being crazy heavy
Sounds GREAT!!!!!
I'd love to hear the Head Version into a 4X12 !!!!
Great Vid, thanks guys!
You can't beat the sound, response and feel of real tube amps =)
Here are my two cents:
I have tried A LOT speakers in this amp, modern and originals.
For clean jazz tone the legend L 1218 is the best I have tried so far in it.
A 16 ohmed G12T75 modern takes out the low mids so makes it sound very sparkly and fendery- good if you want to.
A vintage V30 that had a dense steely tone- good for slide guitar.
Greenbacks sound very woody, but are not my top choice.
G1265- similar to the stock HH 1265 in many ways, very nice.
The best was an EVM12L, original, in a thiele cab.
And the best overall was an Eminence 16 ohm Lady Luck- unbelievable speaker.
So good it make me email Eminence to ask for similar contemporary speakers of them (lady lauck is an OEM Emily speaker) and they informed me that their currently produced equivalents are the CV 75/ 65, Reignmaker, Governor and Legend L1275recommended- and they are correct, you may go with any of these!!!
From Celestions for this amp I recommend:
Alnico blue, gold, cream, ruby.
G12H anniversary- not the Heritage.
Any Creamback, especially the H75.
V type first, A type second.
G1265/ T75.
70-80/ G12P80.
From Eminence those I mentioned first plus the GA SC64 plus many others.
From Jensen C12N, K2, P12.
This amp packs a lot of punchiness, boominess and low mids due to circuit design and small enclosure so you may need to compensate for that with the speaker choices.
It is a GREAT amp, totally recommended.
Hi. That’s really interesting to hear as I have one of these amps and love it - but I’d like to try different speakers just to see if I can get just a little bit more out of it (and just for the sheer fun of messing with gear if you know what I mean!)
How did you try all those different speakers with the amp? Did you physically swap the speakers out each time or did you mount the different speakers in an external cab and use the speaker out on the amp? If so presumably the cab that the different speakers was mounted in would have some impact on the sound?
Can I also ask what you mean when you say the Greenback sounds ‘woody’?
And any thoughts on the Celestion EVH G12?
I’m no expert on speakers, and this is my first tube amp, but whenever I’ve used modellers or IRs, the Greenback models or captures /IRs are always the ones I prefer the sound of, so in my head I’ll like the real thing…
@@littlespaceman Greenbacks suit this amp.
All types of them.
The EVH Greenback is just another type of Greenback, nothing special.
Other speakers that really suit this amp is G12H Anniversary, various Alnico speakers, also Jensens, Eminences, Webers etc.
The stock speaker also suits it a REAL lot at least for my taste!
Some speakers with very big and deep magnets don't fit in, Cub has a small cab.
It all comes down to taste, purpose and experimentation.
And musical genre intended!
All I did was physical swapping and also external cabs.
Nothing digital.
@@littlespaceman also, my post is a little bit old.
Now I would totally recommend any Greenback too.
What is "woody"?
A down to earth sound, full of mids of all kinds.
@@littlespaceman listen, if you love greenbacks, put one in, it's gonna match and it's a classic choice (I would still prefer a G12H Anniversary though for those british timbres).
You will never get real bass from a lightweight speaker.
On the other hand, heavy duty speakers sound really dull and muffled at low volumes.
Lightweight cones, magnets etc are more transparent for cleans.
Heavy duty speakers handle distortion better.
And so on and so on.
Not one thing does everything.
Thank you! That’s all really helpful. Interesting you mention how some speakers don’t sound so good at low volumes as to be honest I’ll mostly be playing this amp at low volume (home use)
In terms of the sort of sound I’m after, I love the ‘classic rock’ sort of sound, and I love the fact that the Super Cub has a lot of gain to play with too.
In my head I think some type of of Greenback is the sound for me, but as I mentioned I’ve only ever heard models or captures of them, never tried a real one.
The problem with mounting one in the Laney to try is presumably you can’t really return a speaker that you’ve mounted and tried? 🙄😏
I do see some great reviews of the EVH G12, so that sounds like something that I’d like to try
Which is better, this super laney or the Blues Júnior? Is Dsl20cr interesting too? It is to be used as a pedal platform. Can you handle rehearsals and small shows?

Home use ? I've done loads of gigs with 15w valve amps.
There's a 1w input so it's a pretty great practice/ gig amp
Have you gigged with 10w valve amps? :O do you recommend it? Thinking about the super10 👀 just for the price and right now is on stock in my country, so no cubsuper12. Thanks in advance
@@ChrisFariasMusic I've never gigged with a 10w amp, but it's more than doable, if the venue has a PA system, which 99% do, you could gig with a 1 watt amp if you needed to. I say if the amp you're wanting is at the right price, pull the trigger. Unless it's an overly large gig or they don't have a PA system, then you'll be alright
@@dreamlikeproblems sounds legit to me hahah because for gigs with too many people they usually have a PA for sure, but small gigs, like 50 to 100 people I mean because I think that's where I aim, so I wanted to know if those 10W of the cub super10 would do the job :o because I'm thinking on that amp in particular since there's no stock of the cub super12, thank you for answering!
@@ChrisFariasMusicA 10w amp will you do great for 50 to 100 people, unless you're looking for a clean amp. Then you'll need another 10ish watts on top of that. But if you're just wanting a amp and you don't mind some crunch for a small venue, then the super10 will do the job excellently
Love it. I just saw chappers and the captain do their review and test. Glad i found yours ! Love our stratocaster sound
'Boutique amp' vs 'budget amp'.
Friend of mine is an experienced technician, according to him this is a tweaked Monoprice/Harley Benton Tube15 amp (or the other way round). It has the same circuit and components (except for the speaker), same sound and volume too, but at double the price. Even the knobs and the connections at the back panel are identical. This one doesn't have a physical spring reverb however, just a digital one. They split the 1-15 Watt attenuator switch into 2 inputs and added the 'boost' function. You can buy one hell of a boost pedal for half of the money that this amp costs. LOL.
Basically you pay double money for an extra input, a transistor boost that costs $5 max and better QC.
Did you research that?
Good catch. I was considering this, but you are right. The cheaper amps have the effects loop, speaker out and and the 1w setting - for half the price. No contest, I'll take the Harley Benton.
@@xcx8646 My Harley Benton Tube 15 is still going great after 2.5 or 3 years or so and has kept its place next to my Marshall DSL and EVH 5150 Stealth. It sounds great on its own but when hooked to one of my 2x12s (Vintage 30s and Greenbacks), it's just amazing. A great pedal platform too, it has taken everything I have thrown at it so far, even pedals that sound like crap on the Marshall (I own loads of pedals, mostly gain). Can't go wrong for the money, if you don't like it for some reason you can send it back.
At Thomann they have split the HB Tube15 into separate amp and speakercab now, so you can buy 2 components, but that combination is more expensive than the combo and with 10" speaker cab only, no matching 12 inch no more. I have no clue what they tried to achieve there, except maybe for portability or easier combining with other gear.
Had the previous version, Laney Cub 15 head and matching 212 cab. Loved the sound but couldn’t play with a band. Couldn’t cut through with acoustic drums. I was really frustrated because I absolutely loved the sound but it didn’t matter because I couldn’t be heard.
I’d love to try this one but there are no Laney dealers within 100+ miles of me with the exception of mail order and that’s only Zzounds that I can find.
I think this might just be my next new studio amp, maybe some gigs.
I owned the olod Cub12R. Don't know why I sold it out. Need this thing!!!
Could you please tell me the differences between the Cub 12R & the Super Cub 12 15W ?
The boost circuit is new for the super cub and the reverbs are apparently different. Other than that there might be some minor inner differences, and of course they look different.
@@wea69420 Thanks.
Do you have to go Black Sabbath with it?
Cubs are cool!
Stick it through a decent 4x12 cab and get blown away !
This demo does NOT do this amp justice. Might be the microphone choice, but Laney Cubs don't sound like that. It sounds tinny and scratchy (listening through decent studio monitors). I have a Cub12 and it's fantastic in person.
I got the feeling the guitar was out of tune as well
Totally agree with this. It sound boxy here. And that's not the case AT ALL in real.
I thought the same thing. It sounds like a bee in a beer can.
It's because the mic is too far from the speaker
The 1w mode is quiet enough for apartment use?
Yeah this is the real question! Can we use safely at home?
Yeah it is, i have the first cub 12r, and the 1 watt mode is awesome for appartment use.
It is. 😉 Still loud as hell though actually
Is the internal speaker still on when you hook up an external cab?
No
I was almost already to buy Blackstar HT5R MK2, but after seing this i don't know more what to do. Would you recomend to apartment use?
I had a HT-5R mkII for 2 months and ended up selling it. I found the overdrive channel very unusable: it went from no sound to full metal in 1 mm twist. The clean channel should work fine with pedals (which I did not want to use at home) but then again, why buy an amp where you cannot use 1/2 of the features. The Laney seems a lot more usable since you can get to high gain by setting the boost on, while still keeping the possibility of having lower gain crunch. My 2 cents.
@@yunketronikoThanks it was very helpful. Usually i don't expect good results from overdrive channel on any amp. I always play clean with klon type pedal + tube screamer. I play Philip Sayce, Mayer and Hendrix stuff you know? Does the clean channel in HT5R sound full and warmth at low volumes? I used have a Yamaha THR10 but i was tired of boxy sound from tiny speakers. I want something more real
@@viniciusgusmao796 I thought the cleans were good and the tone control + the 2 voices are very versatile. But keep in mind that it has no gain knob for the clean channel, only volume and the EQ knobs only work for the OD channel. The built-in attenuator is great. That amp sounded big (in my opinion), I have a THR30ii nowadays due to family restrictions but the HT-5 sounded way bigger and moved a lot of air. Good luck!
This amp ir Marshall dsl 5 cr?
I don't know if it's pick-ups are low output or what, but it sounds way too scratchy to me.
I listened to another review and it sounded great. It’s the post amp equipmentthat’s messed up here. Not the amp.
What do these amps sound like through an Sg?
Can i use the app with it?
Can someone tell me, is there any difference in tone between this one and the original Cub series (besides the boost)?
id like to knos too
Sound is not the same, as tubes are not the same, my cub head sounds warmer, but less « grrrrumpy »
is it that different from the old laney cub12r ?
Much more gain on tap, apparently
10.15 Very Very Townsend
A lot of us would appreciate it if you did a review of the Laney LX15. I know I would.!
Sound mettalic
C'mon guys, you're British, how about a little love for the Laney LX15?
It really is.
Why not play 10 seconds of clean tones out of the 15:47 minutes of OD? The "clean" part at the beginning unfortunately had already quite a lot of dirt.
Manners! Because you didn’t ask nicely! ☺️😜
On the edge of breakup is most people clean tone, a raw clean tone is pretty uncommon.
I don't think Laney will be too happy with is awful sound you managed to get out of a great sounding Amp.
I think he got killer sounds out of the amp. Great demo Dagan! This is exactly what I’m looking for to pair with my 12” Celestion Greenback for bedroom Rock tones.
Don't bother buying a Laney Cub Super 12. I got sent a faulty one, which their own tech agreed was faulty. Retailer told me that they could not send a replacement because ALL CUB SUPERS HAD CABINET RATTLE and I SHOULD NOT EXPECT TO GIG OR RECORD WITH ONE. Laney supported this.
@henrik lassen now you have! :) I communicated directly with a Laney UK tech.
this demo of this amp sounds puny.
There is another demo amp on UA-cam and it sounds much fuller and seriously rock ready. I wonder why the radical difference in sound?
Mic position
Could be many things, room size, quality of recording equipment. Could be many factors
+1 for the licks at 11:18-11:47
$900 in Australia. That's not cheep as this guy Sais
Why does every laney cub review need to mention how they use volume control for cleans? Feels forced after a while
It's the right small wattage tube amp thing to do mate
Because it’s the same bloody amp they’re reviewing. If it’s true in one video it’s true in all
It's a very bad recording of this amp great tone :/
Second
Go mstrbte to your achievements
Glenn Lilley ok simp
all the review that I read says the same :(
Too much of highs, hurts the ears, it should warmer
I hope this amp sounds a lot better than the tones demonstrated here - which are just horrible 🤮
I don't think Laney will be too happy with is awful sound you managed to get out of a great sounding Amp.
I don't think Laney will be too happy with is awful sound you managed to get out of a great sounding Amp.