I Just Got a $200 TUBE Amp... And It's AMAZING!!
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- Опубліковано 3 бер 2019
- $200 for a tube amp? That can't be right!
Well, I was proven wrong - this amp is cheap and sounds GREAT!
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Part 1- Unboxing and walkthrough
Part 2 - Tone Test: 7:46
Part 3: - Final thoughts: 13:27
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Pros: it’s an affordable tube amp
Cons: it’s an affordable tube amp
Final Verdict: it’s an affordable tube amp
Jack Cone
it's an affordable tube amp
I think it’s an affordable tube amp
@@blackusniggus6249 no ..a tube amp , thats affordable i'd say
Michael Seymour Agreed couldn’t be more right. It’s an affordable tube amp. :)
An amp with tubes, indubitably...
I am in the UK.
I said a couple of weeks ago that I had bought one of these and would post back.
I am an amp-tech type who has been building, repairing and modifying stuff for decades.
Here's the full review:-
The amp made it's 8,000 mile journey in 14 days and arrived intact at a total cost of $351.58 which is circa £266 - that is all-in, shipping, import duty, VAT and everything.
I knew as soon as I unboxed it that one of the smaller, input valves was dead on arrival - it had a very visible white stain in the crown of the glass. This was a valve faulty at manufacture which has had a leaking envelope.
[ edit : on closer inspection later, there is a hairline crack in the glass on the pins, so it probably is damage from a shock in transit]
There is no voltage-selector switch and the unit is set up for USA mains circa 115V. A small indicator is painted on the back which has two lines, each with a tick-box "100 to 120Va.c." or "220 to 240Va.c." The former was ticked.
You will therefore DEFINITELY need a step-down transformer (known as an auto-transformer) to use this amp in the UK. It steps our 240V down to the 110V that this amp runs on as supplied.
UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES SHOULD YOU CONNECT THE AMP (as supplied) DIRECT TO THE UK MAINS WITHOUT THE APPROPRIATE AUTO-TRANSFORMER. You will definitely kill the amp and possibly yourself.
(Any auto-transformer that puts out 110 to 120 volts and is rated at anything above 50 watts will do)
Alternatively and much better, the amp can easily be made to run on UK mains by any EXPERIENCED TECH - see the paragraphs at the end of this post.
Having got the 110V power-supply problem sorted out I powered-up and immediately confirmed that the gassy valve was indeed dead. I replaced it with a handy spare and we were in business.
I can't tell you anything about sound that you didn't learn from the above video which persuaded me to buy it in the first place.
It does have "that sound"
Sparkly highs when clean, warm and creamy when pushed a little and quite a decent roar when wound up.
For a domestic situation and a bit of home-practice, when turned up this amp is fooking LOUD even on the 1W setting.
I haven't had time to try it on full 15W setting properly, just a couple of quick riffs and kerrangs as a test, but I think he's right in saying it would handle your normal drum-kit. IMO use at full volume could definitely get you evicted pretty quickly :-)
So the sound out-of-the-box was good enough. It was definitely absolutely valves and as such adequate and lives up to expectations.
Even as it is delivered, it's a great sounding amp at a very low price indeed.
But I needed one replacement valve anyway and the defective one had shaken my faith a little about the others so since for me this whole buy-a-valve-amp thing was a "let's get this sorted once and for all" I thought I may as well have done with it and get a complete set. Nothing too fancy and expensive, just decent valves.
So I ordered some JJ's from Hot Rox - a matched pair of EL84 output valves, a pair of tested input ECC83's and a selected/balanced ECC83 for the phase-splitter ....... there's less point in having matched output valves unless they are also driven equally.
I chose the medium-hot selected EL84 output valves for "normal" amounts of tone. You can choose "cooler" which run cleaner or "hotter" which start to distort at a lower volume.
Putting them in has changed the sound. Basically the cleans are much the same, it's as dirty as it was before when driven but the sound is a little warmer and more creamy. Most notably, when on heavy dirt, with the new valves I could kerrang a chord and also pick on other notes whilst it was ringing and the other notes came through clear and bright, whereas before with the old valves it was all a bit more mushy. Nice, but a little mushy and indistinct, so room for improvement.
With postage and the small charge for testing and matching the new tubes cost £63.
I think that I am not a fan of the speaker. It is one of the later Celestions, from the times when clean tones often drenched in chorus had become popular. The speaker doesn't sound awful and many will be perfectly happy with it - it's just not much to my ideal taste. Personally, I got my first Greenbacks when I was seventeen and for the next 50 years did not use anything else. Each disappointing experiment with other speakers just left me more convinced that Greenbacks are the answer - but I'm a rock-orientated Strat-playing hippy from the late 60's so my notion of a good speaker might be different to someone else's.
I do have a spare pair of G12H Greenbacks in my loft so one of them will be going into this amp ASAP and I'm near certain that it will then be staying.
One of these Seventy80 speakers new is circa £54.
There is a REASON why a G12H Greenback new is £129! ;-)
The reverb tank is not an Accutronics, but it is decent and has a metal shell.
It is very rigidly mounted to the base of the combo and I will be re-mounting that onto some flexible fittings.
The current mounting must inevitably feed more vibration back from the speaker to the springs so I expect rubber mounts to slightly decrease the reverb-time at higher volumes and improve any handling noise from moving the amp whilst it is on.
The internal wiring etc is neatly done. I'm never overjoyed to see tiny surface-mount components but the amp seems well designed and assembled and there is no reason to think there is anything inadequate or likely to cause a future problem.
The transformers are on the small side but I have no reason to think them not up to the job.
There is no smoothing choke though the power supply seems adequately smoothed and there is no hum problem.
The small transformers and absence of a smoothing choke mean that the chassis itself can be lighter whilst still fine for the job.
Between that and the case construction material, overall weight is 25.4 lbs (11.5 kilos)
The case is indeed made of a compressed paper board type material. As I said in another post, this does not concern me personally as I will only use the amp in my home studio or infrequent jam-session.
If I was a gigging musician, I would probably invest in a flight-case. If I construct a better amp-case, it's a lot of work and it will still get battered by touring. With a flight-case instead, the amp will still look spotless in years to come.
The actual wire inside the mains lead is perfectly adequate for it's job but is a lot thinner than you might think as that outer skin contains three wires and three thick pieces of string as you'll learn if you adapt it to 240v and snip off the American plug. String inside a mains cable is no bad thing and actually a sign of attention to detail as it strengthens the overall cable.
The best solution though would be to fit a Euro socket like most amps have.
The poster was a little unsure about the covering material. I see no particular problem with it myself. It's a white rexine and whilst probably not up to Fender and Marshall standard, it appears reasonably resilient.
OVERALL CONCLUSION
I think that at current prices this is an absolute bargain. It sounds good straight out of the box and there are simple things that anyone can do to improve it further in the valve and speaker swap.
Setting up for operation on UK mains voltage 240V
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As implied by the above panel inscription, the power transformer is actually capable of being wired for 240V as used in the UK.
There are two separate input windings on the transformer, each of 110V. As supplied, they are wired in parallel across the supply voltage. All that is need for 240V operation is that they be wired in series by snipping off/unsoldering two 2 inch loops of wire from the transformer terminals completely, then soldering a little bridging loop to connect the two centre terminals.
THIS IS MAINS VOLTAGE - DO NOT ATTEMPT THIS UNLESS YOU 100% KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOU ARE DOING!
I am a qualified tech.
WRONG CONNECTION MAY KILL YOU OR DESTROY THE AMPLIFIER.
- doing any mod will also negate the guarantee, but shipping 8,000 miles for a repair was never going to be sensible anyway.
I mention it only to say how simple it is for an experienced amp-tech. The snipping and soldering is a 5 minute job so if a person were to remove the amp from the chassis themselves, remove the valves (not needed) and take it to a competent person, the charge for actually doing the job should be minimal. - it takes FAR longer to just get the amp chassis in and out of the cabinet than to do the job itself.
There is also a small glass fuse mounted on the circuit board near the on/off switch.
For 110V operation (as supplied) this is a 500mA slow-blow fuse (has a T engraved on it)
For 240V operation this should be replaced with a 250mA slow-blow ........ or better yet, solder a link across the internal fuse holder and fit a panel-mount on the rear panel.
- whilst you are there and fiddling with the mains input, fit a euro connector.
Awesome post.
@@justthen Thanks - but really I just added a couple of details. I wrote mostly for the benefit of UK peeps who might be interested as I was. I've been looking for a small valve amp that I could afford for ages, a couple of years. I was quite prepared to build it myself by modifying an old radio or similar but people know what they're worth these days. But the cost of the parts plus the aggravation and work of building it myself..... it just wasn't worth it. Buying an amp was out of the question too - even second hand amps that were utterly crap when they were new - and are now 40 years old - is prohibitive.
{sighs) ...... over the years....decades....... I've had a vintage AC30 with Alnico Blues in it, a Fender Tremolux, a Vox 125 Watt lead stack, a 60W Carlsboro valve head, a Sound City 50W valve head, a Marshall 50, an ancient Gibson valve head and a couple of others I forget. Plus half a dozen small valve combo's of 3 to 15W, plus half a dozen Frankensteins I made from old valve radios and the like.
- but I sold them all so here I was, sat valveless in my dotage :-(
........which is how I came to be involved in the slightly crazy business of importing an amp from California.
I tried a Mullard OD tube in valve 1, it wasn't an improvement, so I put the original tube back.
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Now "that" is a review, and opinion ! This is what is missing from comment sections, the will to express ones self, and spend a little time explaining your point of view. Well done, and by all means " keep writing".
"Let's pull er oat"
*Canadian noises*
Right eh?
This guy seems like he wore Ren and Stimpy's Happy Helmet for a bit too long, eh?
Whot you talkin bout
I’ve had one of these about a month now and it keeps getting better as the speaker breaks in. The 70/80s get a bad rap, they’re a little harsh at first and need about 40 hours to really break in but they’re good sounding speakers once they are. They’re shipping now with JJ tubes and a better reverb tank which makes it a even better deal.
Dang so much good info/experience in the comments thank you! As someone who’s really only going to play for themselves alone, would this amp be the way to go then? Just wanna jam out!
What year did they start shipping them with jj tubes?
Ismt break in just your ear getting used to it. I feel like the breaknin on speakers is just snake oil
It's a real shame that learning guitar isn't as popular as it once was, because the guitarist-on-a-budget seems to have many more good sounding options now than ever before.
Maybe that's why they are getting cheaper!
Jayce Burns my first amp was a 65 epiphone 20 watt.
There's never been a time when there were more people playing guitar, so your idea about it not being popular makes no sense.
@@zerodollarstudio6934 Source?
@@zerodollarstudio6934 sales of guitars have been dropping steadily for 30 years. That means fewer people are playing.
The quest to find affordable gear that sounds great/works well continues! Today I think I've found a keeper!
Part 1 - Amp Walkthrough
Part 2 - Tone Demo 7:46
Part 3 - Good vs Bad 13:24
Enjoy!
Hi, I do enjoy your channel. I would like to see you change the tubes and see how much of a difference they make. Thank you..
Thank you so much !!!
Ive git a daphon chinese valve amp. 30watts single 12" very loud and the circuitry is very old school. Great for rock. Cost me $200. Mine about 25kgs.
Hi Darrell, would love to see a tube comparison video too.
You should make a comparison between the jcm800 and the silver jubilee
Your gear demos are off the chart
Love it...yes someone actually plays chords and riffs...
That's what like 95% of guitar playing actually is, and single note runs are always going to sound intelligible. It's when you start adding more notes (chords) that the tone really becomes apparent.
I think the amp sounds fantastic. The Celestion 80 is used in many stock cabs. A creditable speaker, further verified by this demo.
Darrel, I can't thank you enough for all the demonstration and comparison you've made. It educate me to know more about gears. Cheers!
I love the way you understand your camera and use a monitor to see what the viewer is seeing in real time. Very professional. And the answer to any of your questions to the viewer in this video regarding the making of more videos of this amp is...: YES please sir!
Also one of the hottest DBG 1 minute solos evar!!!
Thanks so much ZL!
@@DarrellBraunGuitar You're welcome sir! While I've got your attention would you consider doing a DBG $500ish guitar starter kit with like, this amp, the baby blue Notacaster and some of your own modifications to make it really kick ass? With or without the manufacturer's endorsements, though they'd be crazy not to try jump on board...
This exact amp is also sold under Thomann's Harley Benton brand, "Harley Benton TUBE15 Celestion".
These were first, but that's what HB does.
Is it more expensive or cheaper??
Hey to the guy that liked my reply: get a Blues junior. I just got one and it sets everything to rest it’s 100% worth it man
@@AarenAndy I want one. Never had a tube amp. Hell I just started using interface. Hahah.
@@brickbreaker8148 All made in the same factory on the same line. Slap a different badge on for different markets.
Thanks a million for turning folks on to this kind of stuff. I'm just getting started at age 56. Bought this amp and I'm delighted with the sound compared to other starter amps. I'm a 'what makes this tick' guy and got a spring reverb for it as the stock one is a bit weak in my sample. Right now I'm working with a no-name guitar I bought YEARS ago for my daughter. Just took delivery of a kit so I can build my own Strat and upgrade as needed. Gonna be fun learning all the how-it-works stuff as well as making noise.
Better late than never. I'm also interested in learning how to play. To experience the greats and create my own melodies. I really like the Firefly 338. It has awesome tones. But I'm not technical by any stretch of the imagination so I'll go for something really simple but flexible like the Boss Katana 50. BTW I am a sprightly 44. My partner picked up an ukulele for my last birthday so now I want to stretch myself a bit. Have fun. Cheers!
"guitar tone is all about the player and about the amp"
FACTS
id say 15% guitar 10% player and 75% is amp
Mr. Blonde I think might be mostly about the pickups
That’s what I heard somewhere idk
It's more 8% player (tone and feel are different things), 10% pickups, 15% amp, 67% speaker. My math is also probably off but you get the idea. Speaker is somehow the most overlooked part of a setup even though it makes the most difference by far
Big fax
i really like your videos. really well made and always interesting to watch. And yesss, try replacing the tubes with good quality tubes. i wanna hear how it sounds
great video
Thanks for the kind words!
Thanks for the review! Most of all, stay well Darrell.
I love how open and honest Darrell tells what things are and do, compared to being brand bias. Thanks D.
We all understand that there are better products out there, but there are also affordable options available. Proof is in the video.
Darrell knocks it out of the park again, with another great review of gear we can actually afford that sounds great. This is the kinda stuff we want and need, Darrell.
Sure, we love to drool over the high-end stuff, keep it coming.
But discoveries like the Indio guitar and the Stage Right amp, are the things we are gonna be able to afford, and now we can go ahead and buy without taking massive risks on buying a lemon and then having to shell out again to get something that sounds decent.
2 requests though; could you do a review of the Blackstar 5HT tube combo?
And how about a giveaway comp for a cheap guitar like the Indio that you have taken out of the box and sorted by setting up well and maybe replaced the very worst of the parts (like maybe the tuners, nut, or bridge)?
That would be awesome in extremis.
I don't know if you have a 'daytime job' as well as your youtube and Patreon stuff, but I love the idea that you may be making a living out of doing the stuff you love. That is Awesome with a capital 'A', and something I think all your followers would love to be able to do as well.
FYI; Before discovering your channel, changing strings and setting pickup heights was my limit.
Thanks to your guidance, I now have 3 guitars in various stages of disassembly, upgrading and re-assembly and experimentation. Getting amazing results, super-satisfying, and I just want to keep doing it. You took my fear away that I might break or screw something up. And showed me that I did not need to buy lots of expensive specialist kit. Just a notched straight-edge, some radius gauges, several radius sanding blocks, and a fret rocker.
More super budget kit reviews, 'how to' hot rod demos, and that Blackstar 5HT review, please, Darrell. Oh, and we would love to see/hear if upgrading the tubes in the Stage Right is worth doing.
So for 200 for this and 100 for the guitar (200 if you upgrade it a bit) you could have a perfectly decent set to learn on and have fun with. That's actually pretty incredible.
CrimFerret honestly, as long as you’re not playing a stadium, you could gig with 300...
You could gig w this amp. (Post Script) It will also help if you mic this amp through the PA.
Been gigging with this amp for about a month now. The stock (Chinese) tubes have a bit of a metallic or harshness to them. Swapped them out with some tubes I had in my no longer functional Fender Hot Rod; it sounds great. Side by side to a Blues Jr & you really can't tell the difference. You're on point with the negatives, but they're pretty minimal. (Not a the fan of the 15/1W button; just one more thing that could break/go wrong. I like it simple.) IMO it more than holds it own against other 15w on the market. Get a cover; it's gonna get dirty unless it stays in the studio. 😎
@J Thorsson If you mic the amp through the PA as well, yeah it will work nicely. It did for me. A little bleed into the PA definitely does the trick.
@@TrashcanGarage Stopped reading after the word blonde...
Been enjoying mine for 10 months. Does everything I wanted in a cheap practice amp. Effects loop, power can be reduced for bedroom use, real tubes, great speaker. No regrets.
Darrell, we mostly praise your ability to feature well different guitars, updating and amp evaluations; however, I would like to point out that you are a great guitar player! Great job all the way around.
thanks DBG for doing all the hard work for us. Appreciate the info and reviews you do.
Glad to help :)
Alright Darrel, you're the first person to ever convince me to order a piece of gear online. I watched this video two weeks ago and I couldn't stop thinking about it. Kudos to you!
Hows it been?
They went up!!
I’m flabbergasted how good this amp sounds... 😮
I hope more people will try this guitar amp and I wanted to say I learn a lot with your videos and you play good.
It's actually a direct copy, at least internally, of the Laney Cub 12 amp. Most amp geeks think it's actually made in the same factory. They used to look extremely similar to the Cub, but probably changed the look to avoid that being obvious. Best part - it's less than half the price of the Cub 12 and it's the exact same amp! Awesome demo, BTW.
Clifton J. Great info thanks. I might pick up one of these
Laney Cub 12 sounds better. The Monoprice is dark and mushy sounding, doesn't have the same clarity
@@jumpboy29 Interesting. It is possible that production moved elsewhere since I'm sure Laney wasn't keen on having one of it's amps being de-branded and sold at half price. That could explain some tonal difference, but at least at some point, they were identical, and at at the very least very similar still.
It’s manufactured by Sino Amp. These have a different speaker than the Laney and that the main difference. The Laney also has a digital reverb instead of a spring
Yeah I got a Cub12R and noticed that right away, too. It's almost the same except for a few minor changes (switchable power scaling, spring reverb, speaker). They Laney has 2 inputs instead, digital reverb and a Celestion Rocket/Laney HH.
omg i'm just at the clean tone, but that sounds lovely AF
Dave Jones would be proud of you. We don't turn stuff on when we receive them. We take them apart!!!
After watching this review, I purchased this amp. Was surprised to see they had started using JJ tubes. Love that little amp. I built a 212 cab with a pair of Eminence speakers and it sounds amazing. Loud enough to jam with the guys and the 1watt feature is great for at home. Thanks for the awesome job you do with the honest reviews!!!
A tube comparison video would be awesome! Tubes are something I've never experimented with, so it would be interesting to pit some against each other
Daniel Lee I put a set of JJs in the power section I have a nos rca 12 ax7 in v-1 a Raytheon 5751 in v2 and an EHx 12ax7 in the phase inverter/ v3. Quite frankly it sounds a lot better.
lilnetty2 I’ve tried all 12 ax7s . I like the 5751 in v2 . It makes the gain on this amp more creamy sounding and better for my needs. I miss spoke about NOS . The vintage tubes I have were tubes I was lucky enough to get in used tube amps I’ve had in the past. The rca and the Raytheon tube combo does create a more rounded sound. There’s no mistaking that. I have a lot of tubes and I’ve tried a multitude of combinations. That being said I wouldn’t go out and buy expensive tubes for this amp
In my experience, tubes make quite a difference, but a speaker really changes the sound a lot.
I have this amp and it rocks! My favorite part is the spring reverb.
I’ve had the amp since december so for about 5 months and here’s my review. I would highly recommend going to your local music store and replace the tubes because they are pretty cheap and do not last. Other than that the amp is amazing for only 200$ it’s studio quality with great dirt channels and excellent cleans. Great pedal platform too. Overall if you don’t want to spend that much money on an amp this amp is great to add to your rig
Darrell, that solo was banging! Live your content.
Well done D! Great tones and demonstration! Would enjoy seeing a comparison with your choice of upgrades! Thanks for sharing brother! Be Well!
Thanks Steven!
Keep in mind that they do go on sale. I think I got mine for $170 shipped. And yes, I'd love to see you swap out the tubes to see what difference it makes, if any.
As for the lack of features, that's precisely why I bought this over the Boss Katana. As a beginner, I know I would get bogged down and suffer from options paralysis with a modeling amp instead of just playing. I made the right choice, 100%.
Modeling amps are overrated, pedals work better and are more customizable. I think I'm going to get one of these to replace my practice(modeling) amp.
I've got a Katana 50 but im seriously thinking about one of these too. Much like you the simplicity speaks to me
@@clutch1141 I agree. I bought a effects pedal thing, there is too much there, it's distracting. And I realised that my guitar heros usually have pretty simple setups, a few petals and an amp.
@@bugsy9069 your guitar heroes , and mine, had a studio chalk full of gear and an engineer to run that gear...just saying
The Katana is pretty ridiculous, for the money
Doesn't really have its own sound, but you can dial in a crazy number of well-known amp sounds pretty quickly
I love your honest reviews, ecspeically of cheap guitar pickups and amps
I've had mine for 2 years and it still rocks. I thought about changing the tubes, but I haven't had the need. It just screams... and whispers sweet when I want it to.
It may sound good but when you put the new tubes in there adjust the bios and a new speaker cabinet you won't even recognize the brilliant clean nice tones that come out of it and then I use distortion panels I don't use distortion of that app if I want distortion I use a Laney
This is amazing! Thanks for sharing man! BTW I would love to see you upgrade this amp with higher quality parts
Glad to help :)
Darrell, I'm glad that you have a guitar tech's knowledge and you are willing to try different types of equipment. Extremely interesting review. I noticed that your guitar rack is missing something eye catching and Daphne Blue...just saying :)
What is it?
@@plasticbleach4004 Darrell has a beautiful Daphne Blue Squire Stratocaster that he has to restring. IMHO I think it makes his guitar collection that much prettier when it is on the rack.
@@DBSG1976 aww I knew it was that! I'm really sad about that because I've badly wanted one, and before I could get my hands on one, they went out of production. A Daphne blue Squier deluxe strat has now become one of my dream guitars. A SQUIER!
@@plasticbleach4004 You could always go with a Daphne Blue MIM Classic Series '50s Strat. Extremely well made and I changed out the pickups only due to personal preference. More expensive than the Squier, but worth the price IMHO.
The Chinese no name valves are made in the same factories as your branded valves
batteries are the same way
They're all made by the same guy - I met him his name is ming
The good tubes are russian.
That doesn't mean they're all the same design or built to the same QC standards. Gretsch Electromatic guitars are built in the same Korean factory as Peerless, D'Angelico and certain Carlo Robelli models. That doesn't mean they're all the same guitar.
most new tubes are chinese using old american and russian machinery.
waiting for this to ship from GC now, thanks for the great recordings, i watched countless demos of this and this was the one that sold me on the tone, really lets you hear the full spectrum of sound.
Nice 👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿!! Send and Return, 3 preamp Tubes, 2 Power Tubes!! We are ready for some Clubbin!!
Darrell, my wallet is in jeopardy! You keep finding these fantastic products for a fraction of the cost! Another great video!
Man, that is an AWESOME SHIRT
It's really alive to my ears n your playing, as usual, has been so pleasant 👍
I have had one of these for over a year now and I love it, I have mullard el84's, 1959 sylvania long grey plate 12ax7 in v1, sovtek 5751 in v2 and a 1959 sylvania in v3, I keep swapping the speaker around but I keep going back to the 70/80 or a Jensen c12n. I also have the 5 watt amp too, I have a 1958 sylvania smoke glass black plate 6v6gt and I roll different tubes in it but mostly keep a rca long black plate 12ax7 in it. I have modified the negative feedback loop with a 50k pot and 10k resistor inline to get more gain or more headroom. I have a Jensen c8r in it as well. They are fantastic amplifiers for the money.
Thanks Darrell. Nice and fair, spot on review. I have one of these I bought about a year ago (technically previous model), the redesigned reverb is an improvement over the earlier one, which wasn;t that interesting but serviceable. I really doubt you'll find a better budget tube amp in this price range. The 12" celestion speaker is the star of the show in my opinion. After breaking in it gets deeper and more colorful. Takes pedals well. I swapped in a set of new-issue TungSols, didn't notice a huge difference honestly. I put the originals back in, they were perfectly OK to my ear. Mine never leaves the house, but for kicking around the house it's a fantastic little practice amp. As a starter amp or a first tube amp, I would recommend this all day. Pros far outway the cons here.
Well said, sir. I very much agree. My adult son and I test drove probably 10 other amps - and we both liked this Monoprice amp the best (and my son and I have wildly different ears). I swapped out the Celestion speaker with a bunch of other ones - and ended up going back to the Celestion. This is a great amp.
you would be blown away with a v30 or a good speaker suited better for this.70/80s are generally shrill,thin and nasaly
@@trillrifaxegrindor4411 I have a Traynor YCV-40 that came stock with a 70/80, and never had a problem with the speaker sound. I bought it used, and I've read several times that once they get broken in that speaker can sound very good, some people even rave about them. Mine may have already been worn in when I got it, as I never had to wait for it to develop a good sound.
But the opinions on 70/80's do vary wildly, and it seems to be a bit more shrill now, then a couple years ago.
@@stevejackson2986 Huh. I purchased a used Traynor (not vintage era) 2x12" cabinet with Celestion Seventy 80 speakers. I was really put off by the speakers - I found them quite harsh and lacking in any mid-range definition. So I sold them, replacing them with a vintage Altec Lansing and an Eminence. Now it's probably not fair to compare to the Altec (it's a really sweet speaker with lots of lower/middle/upper mid-range definition), but I'm wondering if the Celestions just weren't broken in. Maybe I dismissed them too soon.
thanks for the review.
what a great time for guitarists: Decent cheap equipment and free lessons all over You Tube.
i would've killed for these opportunities in the 1970s.
ultimately, it's all worthless if one neglects to practice.
Kids, stay in practice or you're wasting money on these goodies.
I have the gear and practice but no band? I cant find one
I have two of these. The newest one is completely stock and has a definite AC15 vibe to it. The older one has new tubes (1 12AT7, 2 12AX7's, Tung-Sol EL84's) and a speaker swap (Eminence Legend with the same sensitivity rating as the Seventy80). It has a much more Fender vibe to it.
I run them in stereo, and they sound absolutely ridiculous together!
WOW! I think I might have to pick one up! I'm a caregiver for my father and also live in a small apartment building. So having a lightweight amp to carry with me to my dad's and back home with access to the beautiful sounds from that 1 watt setting will make many people happy! I struggle to keep an acceptable volume at each place, but still be able to get "my sound". Thanks for such a great review!
I really love it, it sounds awesome to me honestly.
Nice demo! Thanks!
I got the 5/1 watt model of the Stage Right amp and the tone is incredible for such a small practice amp. The controls are much more basic/understated which is good for a more meat and potatoes approach. It has volume, tone and the practical 1/5 watt switch. When you crank it up all the way it overdrives beautifully but has really good high volume clean tone too. It is very pedal friendly as well so hooking up a Tone Bender with a T-style guitar is Led Zeppelin 1 and 2 guitar tone with no effort. Thanks Darrell for introducing me to another amazing find bud and keep putting out the awesome and positive content!
I hope this video blows up too 🙏 nice video 😉
Thanks man!
Darrell Braun Guitar I hope I win the danelectro guitar 🎸
Blowed up GOOD !!! Blowed up REAL !!! good. If you're old enough you'll know where that comes from.
It was great to hear you playing a different amp, the other one makes all your guitars sound similar.
Great review Darrell. That’s an awesome amp for the price and good news for those who are just starting out as well as people on a budget who still want decent tone. Thanks for sharing.
Just recently discovered your YT Channel and love it. Trying to go through all of your Videos. I'm actually trying to decide on a new Tube Amp , so finding your Videos couldn't have happened at a better time. Cheers
Pretty good little amp for the price. Would make a cool little backup amp to have live. Your playing makes it sound great Darrell!
His impressive(!) playing & those fantastic songs he picked --- what a fantastic sound
got mine for 175.00 dollars back in 2012 and bought a couple of tubes that went out since then, Love it. I use the effects loop in the back and add a bunch of my favorite pedals usually 4 or 5 and have a blast. I dig Soundgarden and AC DC and forever a Hendrix fan. Rest in peace Jimi.
Thanks for the demo. I just wanted to compliment your playing. You make it look so easy.
That was great! Would love to see more amp reviews.
It's easy to source replacement spring tanks that fit this thing too, this thing is a great modding platform imo.
The spring reverb on the current one is really quite good, the one on the original models the reverb is absolutely terrible. I have one of each that I use in Stereo. They are amazing.
whats a good source? any tips on finding one cheap? I have the 5w stage right and I love it except it has no built in reverb and I cant have that. I'm scraping by using a Biyang Tri verb, which is OK but I would rather have a tank , for sure.
I disagree. For a combo amp, IMO, there are three things that define the foundation for a modding platform: Circuit, chassis, and cabinet. The circuit is a copy of an only average circuit, I can’t speak for the chassis-if it is surface mounted tube sockets, etc., and the cabinet is tiny and made of crap materials. I’d say this is the opposite of a great modding platform, because you can throw a ton of money into it for modest tonal improvements on a boxy, cheap foundation. Compare this, for example, to a Mexi Strat which is a solid modding platform, as the basics are very solid, yet not exceptional, but anything else can be swapped to taste: in the end it’s always built on that well selected, well crafted wood...not outstanding... but very high grade for modding.
TheConvert surface mount is fine, but it takes more experience to mod than other methods
Azimov Watts Monoprice and Amazon (usually through Monoprice) are pretty much it
I bought one several months ago. After a few months of really great sound became intermittent and it suddenly died. I took it apart and found a cable had fell off between the reverb and preamp. Then I discovered the speaker panel was busted in two places. I made a new speaker panel with a new board and fixed the cable. Sounds like new. If you look at the tubes there are no markings on them at all. I'm going to replace them with high quality tubes. It IS a great amp. I recommend it but it is cheaply made. the speaker panel is made of some weird paper material. Probably why is feels light weight. It feels heavier with a good panel. The amp covering material is shrinking and probably will continue to shrink until it just sluffs off on its own.
Thanks for the heads up.
Good lookin' out.
Ya, thanks. Good to know.
i would almost build a new cab for the guts and have a killer all around amp!
Great review!
Thanks!
I bought one of these as a practice amp and it came with JJ tubes! Amp seems to be fine with plenty of volume. worth the $250 I spent on it. Thanks Darrell!
I have had this amp for a minute, and changed tubes, reverb tank, and speaker (put in a WGS), it is really, really good
@pcanarsky did you try swapping out the cabinet? The cab looks like a piece of crap to be honest. Imagine that putting into high quality solid wood cab would make a big difference. Possibly sized up a slight big as well as I'm sure they made it smaller than necessary to save on production costs. How much $ did you spend on upgrades so far? Just curious.
@@raybrubaker I don't like tracking my mod purchases -- too painful :):):) I think the reverb tank was $20ish, the speaker was a WGS speaker which run $90ish (but then I still have the Celestion, so I don't count that cost :) -- And I swapped the tubes.
Building another cab is a good idea! Personally, I would rather turn it into a head...hum, maybe when I get a down day :)
The Tube Test is up! I added a new set of tubes to this amp and tested it up against the stock ones!
Check out the video here: ua-cam.com/video/CEylCAlxnfY/v-deo.html
These actually come with JJ tubes now. I bought one a couple of weeks ago and it surely came with them.
Dude, great video/review on amp and guitar. Nice to see affordable options out there now. Really intrigued on starting out.
I would realy like to hear a tube chainge. Never realy heard any tube swap. This would be a great example of the difference. Keep rocking !!!
Damn decent TUBE amp for just $200! Definitely seems worth it as a practice amp/bring anywhere amp. At least you won't have a heart attack if it get a nic/dent or someone puts a drink down on it.
Would definitely love to hear the comparison after some branded tubes!
Gonna have to start a gofundme to get Darrell a power screw driver.
power tools are why men have become soft.
@@florascent9ts ummmmm.........no
@@florascent9ts that doesn't even make sense home depot's store brand drill drivers are actually called... RIDGID TOOL.. to me that screams anything but soft men lol
@@gregoriodecker2692 the average male grip strength has decreased compared to previous generations.
@@florascent9ts Tim Taylor vehemently disagrees.
Thanks Darrell Sir ! For the price it's darn good .
Great demonstration. Love your videos. It's like you know what I'm looking for.
I would definitely be interested to compare those stock no-name tubes against a known quality set.
They are almost certainly the same as JJ tubes or Sovtek or whomever. There are only so many tubemakers in the world My guess is that these tubes fail the QC standards for their branded tubes but are at least functional.
@@chuckschillingvideos Judging by the shots in the video, they're most likely Ruby tubes or another no-brand Chinese tube. Chinese 12AX7s (modern/new production) are the only ones that use that three-layer mica construction like the ones in the video. JJ (produced in the Czech Republic) and New Sensor-owned brands like Sovtek, EHX, etc. are Russian-made.
@@alfredothoughts I will defer to your opinion. I am not as well versed in the details of the current tubes as you are (I use NOS tubes).
@@chuckschillingvideos Hey, both are great and have their uses. I work with tubes for a living and see a lot of both and just wanted to toss some info out. I did misspeak saying Czech, it's technically Slovakia now where JJ Electronic is HQ'd. Not sure why but a lot of Chines tubes from Ruby (or cheap Shuguangs) used that three-mica setup. Like how a lot of Russian tubes used the UFO-style getter.
@@chuckschillingvideos Your 100% right, the only difference between these and JJ's or groove tubes etc is that those companies say they check and match their tubes.
Amazing video as always. I more interested to hear the amp through good quality cab/speaker (if you can try it through your blue angel cab - that would be awesome!)
Wow. I am usually quite the tone snob and I am thoroughly impressed. Pretty sure you've convinced me to get one of these for my bedroom.
Many thanks for this kind of reviews, are really helpful for people like me (just starting and with a low budget). Cheers mate!
Speakers and cabinets are often overlooked when creating great tone. It’s amazing just how much changing speakers and/or cabs can change your sound. It’s very important to try out different combinations of each.
I have this amp. Re-tubed it with Tung-sol power tubes and some good preamp tubes, and it's become indispensable to me. I did put a 12AT7 in V1 for some extra headroom, but it keeps up nicely with my 100 watt Fender solid state 2x12 combo. In fact, nowadays I plug into this, and then use the effects loop to plug straight into the power section of the Fender.
What makes this more versatile (in my opinion) than the Blues Jr. (an amp I owned in the past) is the effects loop and the presence knob, features the Fender lacks. There's a lot more tonal variation there, and I can use all my time-based and modulation effects much more effectively.
For the record, this is actually a clone of the Laney Cub 12R. In fact, the internals are literally the same. It even says "Laney" on the main PC board.
Huh ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, I am gettin one
@@matthewotremba9230 You'll dig it.
Darrell, thank you for so much education provided on your videos, man! 🙏🏻
Hi ! I think this amp is just a perfect deal. I really like the way you've test it is great. Next month, it'll be at home. Thanks ;)
Tip for tubes: take them out and put them in using a slow circular motion, don’t just yank them out and or in a left and right motion, DO NOT PINCH THE PINS
Thanks for the video. DEFINITELY DO THE TUBE SWAP!! Put some JJ's, sovtek or svet's in there it'll make a world of difference.
👍Will do :)
Tung-sols are sweet too!
"Do the Tube SWAP. Dooo iiitttt!", in Homer voice.
Definitely Tung sols in the preamp.
I got the smaller 5 watt version of this amp. Swapped out the cheap microphonic no name Chinese tubes for some NOS from viva tubes. Spent $25. Literally a
Night and Day difference. These sound good with the crap tubes. They are magnificent with some quality tubes. The wattage switch is really a dB pad. Gives you some more clean headroom. Obviously It’s an insane value for either amp. You can’t really go wrong with either one.
Great review. Fun and informative.
That looks so clean
Very impressive, especially the single coil sounds. A poor man’s Bluesbreaker is nothing to sneeze at.
Have one of these and I threw in a 8ohm alnico gold in it and man it screams, the volume increased significantly. Thinking of making a 4*12 cab with 2 1960s Jensen concert speakers and two 60s Jensen c12rs or p12rs , I'll also run a celestion blue loaded 4x12 cab. I have the speakers just need to get on it! As always awesome job Darrell!
Audriana Sondej upload a clip!
I put greenback in mine
Light break up has that bell like oomph feel in the tone which is always beautiful to my ears
Great review
I love Monoprice. It won't be perfect at that range, but for people who want to get in to something like guitars, it's a great way to do it cheaply with reasonably good quality equipment that will give you room to grow.
I got mine last year, love it! Yes to a tube comparison please.
Yes, comparison please.
DBG approved lol. Seriously glad to hear you like it. Love mine.
3:49 “Spring erverb”😂😂😂
Thank you very much for the great video review of this amp. Not bad for a $200 amp.
Agree to an extent, this amp is a one trick pony, meaning if playing classic rock/blues it will probably do better sounding job than the katana, but the katana definitely can do it all...i did try out the katana when it first came out at a local shop and was impressed at the capability vs price, but even an old line6 flextone from the early 2000s does a better job as a modeling amp, but then again those flextones were like over $1600 when they first came out lol, so Katana wins only due to price : )
@@seblo8462 Cool. Thanks for being so informative.and comarng the amps. Sometimes it's hard to know which one is best. Like you said this one is not too bad for classic rock/blues but not nearly as versatile. So I guess it just comes down to what you want. And like you said not bad price for a tube amp. Have a great day :)
Yes! Do another demo with good tubes and let's see the difference! Great Demo and a really good value. :)
I just received my monoprice amp. The label on the back states it was made in Nov 2020. This amp came equipped with all JJ tubes. Three ECC 83S power tubes and two EL 84 pre amp tubes. Glad to see there are no unbranded tubes inside now. The amp sounds good and I'm very happy with it. I bought this amp because of all the good reviews and I am a woodworker so I plan to make a custom cabinet for the head and a separate speaker cabinet.
PLEASE GET NEW TUBES AND TEST THIS!!!!
Tubes!Tubes!..
I've been looking for such a test for like ages. I would really like to see if this is a urban legend whether proper tubes make difference in sound quality. PLEASE DO THE TEST!
I tried a bunch in mine. I didn't find that it made enough difference, so I left the stock ones in. These amps are however biased quite cold & getting it up to spec made a huge difference. That & a better speaker. Even a super cheap Eminence with a more British voice was a big improvement.
Don't even ask such a silly question. DO IT!
BTW, sounds really good as is, just want to see if it goes to a higher level of tubey goodness :)
John Austin after one day you've got 215 likes, lol I think your comment is one we all agree with😎
WwoowwW !! $200 bills awesome 15 w and reverb too..mmm I want a new one
Here's some stuff I know about this amp. I bought one a few years ago for $181 delivered. I already had a Laney Cub 12. This amp was basically a clone of that in every way except for a few cosmetic differences (knobs, everything were in the exact same place). I believe thse were made in the same factory as the Laney and just covered and labeled differently). I gave that to my pal who plays in a blues band doing gigs all the time, and he loves it (and he's a fuss budget). He uses it for all his indoor gigs and it's easily loud enough, sounds great. He liked it so much he bought another. Now that one was this newer style with the controls on the front instead of on top like the Laney clone. The amp still has the exact same specs and features (spring reverb was improved according to monoprice). He likes the newer model even a bit better but that could be variation from amp to amp. Both have held up to gigging with no issues for him, and the older model has been at it for a couple of years (he uses the older one for most gigs as they get beat up cosmetically, and the newer one he uses for "nice" gigs like say a wedding). That Laney Cub 12 I have used to be a great bargain itself when I bought it compared to a Fender Blues Jr. ($400 compared to $600) but I see the Laney now for $550. So, this is a great amp for the money. I also have a 40W Marshall tube amp I got new for $400 from Sweetwater, and that was a GREAT deal.
Really nice review, thanks.
This Amp has brought out the 4 letter words to describe how amazing it is!