Gonna incorporate things like 'broken wrist time' and 'broken thumb time' into my daily vernacular. "Oh, you touched my sandwhich? That's broken knee time."
I dont understand why so many people are pissed. It's just an entertaining view at the actual practicality of the keyblade if used in real life, which obviously would be horrendous. I am a huge Kingdom hearts fan and I thoroughly enjoyed this video
same here, it was quite enjoyable as there is a clear line between fantasy and reality keyblade is cool and awesome in the game but it make no sense in reality and that is a fact that we should accept and get over with as this video was for entertainment purpose only
dan winters the problem is him making statements making fun of the creators without understanding the meaning. He also doesn't clarify this is for practical use but just bashed the weapon in general
PNUTBTERON BWLZ I do not want to sound condescending but, did you read the warning at the 10 second mark, especially the the bottom two sentances. If you are only talking about the tone and words, I am content with the warning at the beggining. Maybe you are not content with that. I like his somewhat off the script talking.
yeah no that thing is already ridiculous, let's pretty much 2 kingdom keys in an x shape so the guard is double the width of the kingdom key so already it's stupid
keybashingthing there. no blade in the name, still sounds awesome, rolls off your tongue easily even if you don't know what it really is. "hey, dude, what's that... keybashingthing?" "Yes, exactly" . :-D
when you know that in KH, most Keyblade Masters are dead, and when you watch this video, you know the truth... most of them where killed by their own weapon XD
Surprised you didn't mention the keychain. Because having a foot long chain with a heavy piece of novelty jewelry at the end seems like a great way to throw off balance or get it tangled around your arm or the already ludicrous guard. Love Kingdom Hearts, love the Keyblade's design aesthetically, but definitely a ridiculous weapon, which I guess comes with the territory the moment you name your weapon the "KEYblade" xD
i can't see that the chain would be un-screwable, you're making this up. or is it like each chain link is a clip-on connecting to the others? so you can un-clip each link separately? Multi-pommel for many rightly endings!
I mean it can basically change into whatever you want it to so the guard could very well be an illusion I mean the dang thing turns into a space motorcycle
You are definitely overthinking this. Clipping like that is in almost every game. It’s either overlooked or the developers decide it’s not worth the effort to fix because it doesn’t take away from the overall experience very much
@@theravenlordmasterofthevib8991 Okay... I don't think you're understanding my cynicism. I was trying to poke fun at the game whilst referencing and making a joke out one of the points in the video. I thought my comment about the devs would have clarified the fact that I wasn't being serious, but your comment sufficiently proved otherwise.
"You could call it an extra secure key because it has 4 bits"... Wow. A computer science joke on a sword channel. I don't know how to take this. It want to say that I approve...
I LOVE magical weapons. I love how they look, I love how people fight with them... But I also love looking at how badly designed they are in a practical sense. Thank you for making this video!
I can understand the point of the other videos... but seriously key blades? I don't think the designing department considered any practical use of the 'weapon'
The keyblade is a very cool design, it does not use sharpness to strike its foes, but rather magic as it is within any hit. Notice in the beginning of the first game, where you cannot strike the heartless before you get the keyblade? It's because it's a magical weapon, which sharpness comes from magic, used to specifically strike the heartless. :)
Funny thing is, is that if you pay attention to how sora swings the thing he almost never hits with the key bit side he hits with the ket bit facing him so he hit with the rounded rod
Disclaimer: This is not butthurt. I'm just having fun joining the debate, that's all. The Keyblade's obviously at least semi-metaphysical, as it can land strikes on metaphysical beings (heartless and Nobodies cannot be killed by normal weapons) and the characters simply form them out of some manner of light energy. Therefore, if it is not strictly a physical object, you cannot determine its weight, thus the only way that a larger keyblade would slow a person down would be (tenuously) aerodynamics. Also, as it is the "power" of the keyblade that deals out the destruction, not the actual impact, it does not need a sharp edge. Noticet that in the games the Keyblade wielders can destroy or remove a person's heart merely by touching the tip of the blade to the person's chest. But you are absolutely right about the key-handle-shaped knuckle guard making it cumbersome to use, although it wouldn't be quite as bad as you describe as Sora is striking with the cylindrical part of the weapon, not the key itself. (See 2nd paragraph) Also, although the artwork shows Sora holding the keyblade one-handed, the dimensions are slightly different in the games and he is clearly seen wielding it two-handed, which would diminish the disadvantage a great deal. Again, just for fun, guys. =>
What's more, you don't even strike with the key part. You use the back end. When I first got in to Kingdom Hearts, it was so distracting. Btw, love KH, diehard fan
only way that "weapon" would be effective is when your opponent sees your welding that thing and starts laughing uncontrollably, you could take advantage of them not paying attention and bash them in the head with that thing.
I think I might have thought of some decent techniques you could use when fighting with the key blade, the first one is using the bottom of the Key Bit to sorta grapple your opponent's weapons and somewhat take control of it, and #2 you can do a draw cut motion to smash the bit in your opponents face and make them suffer a broken nose time long enough to beat the shit out of him/her until you win, basically. (Edit) on the topic of sword techniques you could use with a non modified Keyblade, another technique you could use is "Half-Swording" to both have some control of the Double Knuckle Guard so it hopefully won't break your wrist or thumb in combat (by kinda using it like a spear) while being able to dish out as much damage as possible.
one thing you didnt mention was the fact that several characters tend to use the keyblade with a two handed grip despite the fact that the hilt is clearly designed to be one handed
People need to stop acting like skallagrim hates fantasy because he bashes the swords, i actually have the same issue with many fantasy weapons myself but i can ignore the problems they would cause in real life enough to enjoy how awesome they are. As much as it butthurts people, he IS making valid points. most of these weapons could NEVER function properly in the real world without serious problems, doesn't mean we can't accept that fact and still like the weapons in question.
kristian perez if he was taking the magic properties into consideration it would defeat the purpose of the entire damn series. he's here to determine how these blades would functio n when under the laws of physics, not the laws of fantasy...
It's named for it's two uses, as a key and as a blade sinces it's design intent and gameplay intent is to be used as a sword. Though some of the Keyblades don't really fit the name too well. With the Kingdom Key that's seen in this video being the biggest offender.
tetrisclock Its primary use is a magical key that opens stuff. The keyblade has many, many, many forms. Some of which are much more narrow and a lot of them have real sharp edges. So depending on its variation it can either be a slashing or a blunt weapon. In the universe its main use is to defeat particular types of enemies which conventional weapons struggle with (due to these creatures being supernatural). It is also an excellent magic conductor so in this universe... there's that. It doesn't excuse it's pathetic design, especially if you see the ultimate keyblade called the key-blade. This is so goofy looking, pun intended.
tetrisclock Main reason is they use the opposite side of the 'blade; as attack. The key-bit is mainly there for aesthetics to keep the key motif. Some are sharper and are actual blades, still silly, but there ya go. Its more like a bat really
With impractical fantasy weapons i usually assume they have some invisible magic blade around them just so they can slice things.
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@@JaftenLKA Truth, as not only a kh fan but a fan of magic in general, ( I always pick the mage) I am sad about how SEVERELY underused magic is in kh. Wisdom for is almost always at the bottom of the list I drive forms. Though this aqua mod encourages you to use magic a ton (obviously since you are playing as aqua). ua-cam.com/video/7wa71oXIDTw/v-deo.html
Couple of things. First, yes in a fight with actual realistic weapons, and conditions, the keyblade would be utterly pointless. In fact nothing about it would be functional, as the "key" part is not even used, if you look at Soras fighting style, he hits enemies with the blunt side. First Sora is not a trained Swordsman. He got that cool loking magical key thingy that can hurt the literal darkness that he fights, that with a conventional wooden sword, he couldnt even hit. It wasn't inefective, it just didnt hit at all. Later in the game, once Sora actually mastered magic he is able to hit enemies with the wooden sword, so the basics are as such. It is magic. There is nothing about said "keyblade" that actually harms enemies, its the inherit magic that deals the damage. It is also revealed in lore, that the darkness can be fought with conventional weapons, by magic users, however nothing but the keyblade is actually able to release the hearts stolen by the darkness, so the hearless just reform in the realm of darkness and just go back to the realm of light. In other words, anything but the keyblade can only temporarly destroy the physical form, but it will allways just come back. Aside from that, if you look at all the animations of how to fight with a keyblade, it has no similarities to actual fighting of anything. Because in every action, magic is involved. The way Sora turns around when guarding, purposely turning around exposing his back, that still gives him full 360 degrees of perfect invulnerability says it all. So no matter how much realism you wanna try to add into the mix. If the keyblade would work as intended with all the magical benefits. No conventional weapon could harm a keyblade user. Sora is literally able to reflect bullets. Not magical enery shots. Literal bullets (Port Royal) While dancing around and exposing his back. Perfect imunity. Edit: About the whole "metal" thing. The keyblade is lterally materialized out of the strength of your heart. There is not solid material, it dissolves and teleports after all. The thing is literally made of energy.
tehSunBro Actually by that last bit... It wouldn't even be energy if it's powered by "the strength of the heart". That would be more in tune with a spiritual force. Basically fighting with an embodiment of "good" rather than fighting with "mmm that's certainly some 'good' and lethal energy!"
RyuSaarva If you look at the tsuka and the size of it compared to the blade. You'd know that it's based on a Katana. A nodachi base design would have a far longer tsuka. For example, the Tensa Zangetsu from bleach has a base Nodachi design due to tsuka length my friend.
to my knowledge they were used by cavalry units who really hated polearms to get longer reach and also used against cavalry units by cutting horse legs.
11:50 this is actually part of the lore from KH1 where the magic in the keychain is able to change the form of the keyblade. Also the way a keyblade is wielded is having it appear out of nowhere. Combine that with the thematic components of the story in KH2 about existence/nobodies and you have a way to explain the "illusion magic" part of the universe. Also the modification you made at the end of the video is actually the same concept as Ventus' keyblade. It has a normal D guard like you said although it doesn't have the axe head like you'd ideally like.
I just wanted to state two things I saw wrong in this video. -The keyblade is clearly a one handed weapon, yes, but Sora wields it with both hands, most of the time. You can tell by his stance when combat starts. -And, while this part would not change the functionality, to my knowledge, and from what I've seen in the games, Sora strikes with the back of the "blade", as opposed to the key part. Neither of these would change the functionality of the weapon, I just wanted to point them out.
i dont think grab that thing whith two hands because could be a little unconfortable and yeah probably are some other options in combat but you maybe cant conntrol well the sword
There is no reasonable excuse for wielding such a small weapon with two hands except that whoever made the Keyblade clearly didn't design it for combat. Skall made it to scale; It has room for one hand. When you put two hands on a one-handed grip, you don't get momentum like you would with two handed weapons, AND you lose the maneuverability that you want a one-handed weapon for. They could have sharpened the spine of the key (Don't know what it's called) to a axe-like head, or curved it a bit like a scimitar and have the key bit act as a weight to drive more into the cut. It would still have to be thinner, but at least then it would be more blade than key. If I was re-designing the Keyblade to mimic more closely how Sora actually uses it, I'd sharpen the blade (Like how I said above) and give the grip room for two freakishly large hands (Since everyone in Kingdom Hearts has them). If the key shape needs to be retained, they could have extended past the guard instead of having a useless, swinging charm. That way it looks mostly the same with more room and versatility!
In general, I think it would be interesting to look at half a pair of scissors used as a blade. The Character 8 from the movie _9_ uses such a thing too... It is annoying to talk about that movie because the title is a number and all of the characters' names are numbers... Less so in Dutch because the English makes it a bit clearer you're not just talking about numbers, but still...
First of all, the inquisitors appear in *rebels* not on clone wars.... And two, a lightsaber can cut from all directions It uses energy to cut not force
Keyblade? Lol, it's really need to say anything about it? This sword is described even in the game more like a magic toy than something that cuts through the sharpness.
This was the first Skallagrim video I ever saw, and he tore apart my favorite sword from my favorite videogame... and I've loved his videos ever since and now I'm in HEMA because of him.
It's simple: Sora is soooo good at figthing, so he has to use this ridicolous sword as a kind of offset. A handicap if you will, so he just doesn't mow throught the enemies and kill all the challenge and fun in saving the world.
Some suggestions: Mention some of the people who suggested your current weapon. If it's from an anime or game, use some of the music from the original score, so if you cut your sound, we don't notice. Make a note on which form it is, if it has multiple forms. (Since this is the Keyblade, you would call it the Kingdom Key form) I understand the point of using a green-screen, but if you can find a regular wall, that would cut down on the phasing in and out of the video, and fuzziness surrounding anything with movement. Pull your camera back so you can demonstrate your swings without having to worry about going out of frame or hitting your camera. When you're standing, wear a clip-on microphone, so as to cut down on the exterior sound, or get cleaner sound. That's about all I've got right now. I appreciate your take on the Keyblade, but I'd have mentioned the Fenrir blade, which is actually a blade that's styled like a modern key. (With teeth all along it on both sides.) Also, you would hate the Ki-Blade. (It's actually a really weird X-type character that my keyboard can't type, but it's pronounced "Key" or "Kai") My suggestion for future weapons: Final Fantasy 7 and 8 Protagonist weapons, Ivy's Chain/Whip-sword from Soul Calibur, or The Soul Calibur itself. If you read all the way through this, thanks for acknowledging my input. I'm glad that you took the time to read this, and I hope you'll take some of my advice. (If you do take some of my advice, thank you. I appreciate it!
***** Yeah, I noticed that too. I Don't think he has ever played the games.... He wields it completely different and in a less effective way than it is wielded in the games, in which they wield it more like a metal pipe than an axe.
The impractical design always did bother me ever so slightly as a kid; not that I cared, I was still just a kid, but I remember always wondering how Sora would have ever been able to effectively wield a giant key with no actual blade to speak of and a guard that would limit movement and be uncomfortable in the best case scenario.
The only problem with your analysis is the fact that the key part at the end of the weapon is not faced to the enemy when the keyblade is used, you can see that in the game, which made the keyblade even useless once it hits the same points that a staff would normally hit.
The keyblade can also shoot fire, extend to be used as a whip, it can be transmuted into an entirely different weapon, it appears out of nowhere when you're attacked (like it's your freaking spidey sense or something) and oh yeah... it can turn into vehicles which can be used for space travel... "Fantasy Weapon" doesn't even begin to cover it. A lightsaber is more realistic than a keyblade and its a "Sword" made of super heated plasma emitted from a flashlight sized device that somehow knows how to stop 3 feet out.
1.It shoots not fire it casts it, there is no mechanik behind it. 2. The "transmutation" is forced by the keychains. 3. It apears becaus it is a part of you so I understanded that^^ So Spidey sens is not so far away from the truth :D 4. The vehicle part is complet wrong. That are Gummijets and the keyblade has nothing to do with them. And if you want to now how you can curve a plasmastream. Just call Zern in Switzerland.
you are right sora is chosen one who can use it in game the power of heart is exist in the story to use as key blade master but in common sense the power of heart is looklike chi or fajing internal power sora is just a kid who looklike he had intenal power and or use adrenalin or sub cocsious power . the end just dont compare game and real fight so much.
วิชชากร สุขวัฒน์ Sora is not a chosen one, btw. Although, you have a point, if we see "the strength of the heart" like chi or qi or something like that, Sora would not have even a chance to do so, 'cause of no training. But, we need to look this "power" as an external force, more like a "divine" and cosmological force that resides in every living being, not like a inner force like chi or qi. They can't be completely compared one to each other
My main defense for the key"blade" is that it's mostly a magical weapon, and when it's not being used for that, it's pretty much a bludgeoning tool. A steel pipe would hurt just as much as the cylindrical part of the keyblade, and that's pretty damn painful, especially if you're a Heartless.
I just got my hands on a replica keyblade, and damn that "guard" keeps going into my wrist, if I strike hard enough it will likely dig into my skin, I'd be better off holding the other side of it and using the "handle" like a mace head.
I always find your videos fascinating, even though this one was useless, it was quite entertaining. I'd love to request if you could review one of Skyrim's dedric weapons, they have some pretty cool and vicious designs.
I would like to point out a few things: 1, the teeth of the keyblade isn't what strikes the enemy, therefore more of a club than an axe. 2. Sora has been shown to change how he holds it from one to two hands depending on the specific form and attack that's being used 3. it's the physical manifestation of his heart, so I doubt there's any superstrength involved in holding it. that being said, I love this video and agree that the keyblade is stupidly impractical in real life
I don't understand why so many people get offended by criticism of a nonexistent weapon. Yeah, maybe it's just a game and it's not necessarily meant to be practical, but it's not like criticizing something for its flaws is totally out of line.
@@Krytern um no the reason why the keyblade is like that because the original idea for the weapon was not approved by disney. the original design was a chainsaw and sora looked like a monkey. but disney did not want a chainsaw in the game and wanted mickey mouse to star the game. but as a compermise sora's design was changed to have clothing an a color pallet that was like mickey mouse and he was no longer was a monkey and the weapon was changed into the keyblade. and no its not a useless weapon its able to lock the keyholes in the heart of worlds in order for them to not disappear and it can be used to cast magic spells.
@@Boomrainbownuke9608 "and no its not a useless weapon its able to lock the keyholes in the heart of worlds in order for them to not disappear and it can be used to cast magic spells." That isn't what I meant lmao. He swings it around as if it is a sword or something, which it is completely useless to be swung around.
@@Krytern It's swung as a sword to make contact with enemies XD Once it's touching, the magic of the weapon (being a manifestation of a strong heart rather than a physical object) does the rest. I don't really think people need to physically beat others with their conviction to get stuff to happen, so why should a weapon brought forth by conviction need to do anything more than make contact?
@@viteseul What about the handle? Due to the "guards" he wouldn't even be able to swing it the way he does, magic or not. His wrist would probably be broken too. Can you explain this?
I'm actually playing Kingdom Hearts 1 right now. In its defense, Sora doesn't actually strike with the key part. He strikes with the blunt side, basically using it as a metal club, so he doesn't worry about edge alignment. Even so, as much as I like this game, I still think it's a dumb weapon, even if only slightly less than I did before.
In fairness, Sora maneuvers just as well with the keyblade, as he does with his wooden trainer. This seems to suggest that the weight would be approximately that of an average hand-and-a-half sword.
I enjoy a realistic analysis of the keyblade, its a little unreasonable for actual combat, but have you seen Aweme's Man at Arms where they crafted the Keyblade with an actual cutting blade on the end? Its pretty cool.
Thank...YOU! I've always been a fan of KH and played through all the games. But ever since I was a child even I noticed the errors of trying to wield this as a weapon. I understand the "key" part of the name, but with the newer games allowing it to morph it leaves the option to morph INTO a practical blade. Subbed btw :)
You don't actually strike with the crown shaped part ( I don't know what it's called in english ). Look at videos from Kingdom Hearts 1 and you'll see that Sora strikes with the other side. Also there's no need for a (physical) blade, since the keyblade is a magical weapon that draws out the power of the heart. As for the cutting buildings in half: As one gains more and more experience using the keyblade one can learn to use it telekinetically and even alter it's shape. (Look at Terra from Kingdom Hearts 2 Final Mix) I partially agree about the handle. I built a twohanded keyblade out of wood once (just a basic design, it had an oval shaped handle) and it wasn't bad at all, it was surprising how little the handle got in the way. I like your Fantasy Weapons Scrutinized videos and generally agree with what you say. But sometimes it just doesn't make any sense at all to force real world physics and properties on magical themes. I understand that many fantasy worlds base themselves around realistic conditions (like in your skyrim weapons video) but this time I'll have to disagree for the most part.
Yes, but it still gets in your way. It doesn't matter if you strike with the spine of the key or not, you're still misaligned. Try using a hammer with your arm misaligned (carefully) and you'll see how any weight that's off the centerline causes torque. It's not great. Plus, the key guard actually does screw with your wrist because your wrist can't line up with the force. If your wrist can't line up, you get torque in your wrist, which can cause repetitive stress injuries if you're hitting lightly. If you're actually trying to hit or block something your opponent can actually bounce your weapon back into your face if your weight isn't solidly behind the blade. Had a sword teacher do that to me a few times before I learned how to hold the blade. Not fun.
Max Hickman Then let's see weapons like arrows with magic heads, or hilts that sprout magical blades? Magic based is magic based. Bring it here, yes of course it's going to look stupid and useless. The Keyblade is useless without magic. And it's obvious. To scrutinize it is like looking at a wizard staff and saying its just a stick. What's the point in looking at these types of weapons? The person who first commented isn't arguing the reason the series exists. Its the weapon under the microscope.
The key bit is suppose to be on the opposite side when striking. So you're swinging with the blunt end, not the key. I've held a fully sized one, both wood and metal and didn't bother me at all.
certain key blade designs are technically more practical than kingdom key, a way to make it more practical other than slicing the gaurd in 2 and sharpening the teeth of the key, is to make it more of a longsword type design and thin the gaurd a bit
Man at arms made a replica keyblade that actually cuts at the key part. though he did say the key blade was not at all meant for cutting,while looking at the pictures, it did look like it was based off of axe logic, compared to sword/blade logic. also if we want to look more into it, the blade changes form depending on the chain (and other stuff) so a fenrir, soul eater, the original keyblade aka X-blade, and kind of the road to dawn, will defeat your lecture about it being useless/ not a blade thing. as for the hilt part....okay, you win...there is no point to the dual hilt guards and one wrong move will be the end of your hands. well played...and even though this is one of my favorite series... your video is pretty enlightening, but i will take the risk and own a keyblade.
Sekoy the Angel I've already watched man at arms video, you realize he changed the end of it to make it sharper when the original was much thicker.and if you watch the video again you'll notice he only cut a SINGLE object, everything else was smashing, he smashed the statue head he smashed the door he smashed the 1990s console, the only thing he cut was the cantaloupe which he was able to do cuz he sharpened the tip more than it original was sharpened, a club could do EXACTLY what the keyblade did in the man at arms video...
Watch the video again: Tony and crew never swing the keyblade properly, and in one slomo shot the blade clearly deflects at an angle, precisely as Skall predicted. Also, Tony's keyblade is hand-and-a-half-sized, as opposed to one-handed.
Only way the Keyblade could possibly work as it's used in the games, is that it's made of frigging magic. Not made of magic metal or other magic materials, just. . . *made* of *magic*. That cylindrical bit (which is the part that Sora hits things with, not the sticky-out key teeth bit) is alternately as blunt as it looks and sharp enough to slice skyscrapers in half like they're giant butter sticks, depending on what Sora is trying to do with it. Given the other things you pointed out in the video, I can think of three possible explanations, and none of them are particularly good: 1) The physical forces that any object designated by the universe as a "Keyblade" exerts on its surroundings are almost entirely divorced from the actual form of the object. Sora could be swinging around a pool noodle with the word "Keyblade" scrawled on it with sharpie, and it would still somehow work as long as the universe was convinced of "this is a Keyblade". 2) Physics as we know them are already completely screwed in KHverse, and the Keyblade is only the tip of the iceberg. For example, attempting to explain anything concrete about the sea of handwavium that is the space between "worlds". 3) Both 1 and 2. (And yes, I *am* a Kingdom Hearts fan. Look at the adorable evil saltshaker in my icon. You just don't get very far as a critic in a creative writing community when you treat works you like as if they are exempt from having flaws or absurdities, and that's where I'm coming from here.)
It is apparently you who cannot read. My entire first paragraph is expounding on the ways the Keyblade makes no sense. I then go on to show that the only ways to explain it in-universe ("Keyblade" is an idea) or out-of-universe (Squenix cannot into physics) are *extremely* handwavey. Then I have a parenthetical aside paragraph at the end that's basically "Please do not eat me, rabid KH fanpiranhas". Again, I am a writing critic *and* a KH fan, so I have firsthand experience with the rabid KH fanpiranhas. They scare me. I'm not sure where the butthurt here is.
I tried my damnedest to suspend belief when it came to this weapon when I played this as a kid. In the end I just ended up using Fenrir or something that *kind of* looked like it could sorta cut through things and even that felt kinda silly. So yeah, kind of a cool creative concept but in use it was kinda silly. Should have made it surround itself with a visible blade-like energy or something when it cut. Something to say *"this is how its cutting buildings in half"*.
"Should have made it surround itself with a visible blade-like energy or something when it cut." I always imagined the keyblade to be a kind of amplifier. In Kingdom Hearts Sora fights with his heart. Later in the game he was able to injure Heartless even with his wooden sword. So the Keyblade only draws that power out and gives it a needed shape.
MarcoManiac I know how it works in theory. I'm saying that giving some visual indication at some point (even once or twice in a cutscene or something) would have helped make it more "believable". If you have a fantasy weapon I think it should *look* like it can do what it does.
I apologize for responding with something that has nothing to do with your comment, but I always have to commend people for making the classy choice in their Street Fighter characters.
EbonMaster Well in the building fight, it didn't look like he was actually cutting it with the key. It looked like there was some blade like energy forming with the slashes. Plus the key draws out energy from the light within it's user, or darkness and I always thought that, that magic is what enabled it to cut through stuff; like the last boss fight when cutting through the buildings, the slashes were a magical energy like effect instead of the buildings just being cut like regular swords would cut through stuff.. Also Ventus is one character who's keyblade design is closer to the one the guy in the video says would be better to fight with.
In KH lore, I believe, Keyblades are supossed to be keys before weapons so naturally they aren't optimal for fighting. In fact, all of them are just replicas of a Keyblade that does have a blade, the X-blade. And even though the X-blade could be used as a weapon, it's primary function was to unlock Kingdom Hearts. So Keyblades are like a broom: its function is sweeping the floor but you can still use it to smack people in the head xD
One mistake here. Sora generally strikes with the "back-end" of the weapon, making it a club, not an axe. The actual key part is exclusively for opening doors as far as I know. I'm also sure it's called a keyblade because keyclub doesn't sound as cool. Fun series; I'll be looking forward to the next one.
while he's completely correct on design, its important to realize that according to the lore, Keyblades have almost no mass for their owners and their shape means nothing, the shape is based on the heart of the one he bonded with and the power of the weapon is based on the power of the wielders heart and without the strength of heart the weapon is as effective as a stick.
Jerry Tengu and more importantly this is a weapon from the disney universe, i mean, you can't hug goofy and donald duck and then slice and stab creatures with a sharp blade, they needed to design the less dangerous looking weapon possible for their protagonist, and in the end, the obvious choice was to not give him a weapon.
At least some of the variants are somewhat reasonable. One of the KH3 keyblades, Fenrir, looks more like a modern key, which basically turns it into a decent sword with a dumb guard. Other keyblade designs can vary between aesthetics and hints of practicality.
1:18 You're wrong it does qualify as a blade. 1blade noun \ˈblād\ : the flat sharp part of a weapon or tool that is used for cutting : one of the flat spinning parts that are used on some machines to push air or water : the wide flat part of an oar or paddle Clearly if you were in a canoe you could use this as a oar or paddle. Therefore it is a blade. ;p
The gunblade's a bit problematic if you try to review the whole "gun" bit, because Square realised quite early how ridiculous it was, and after receiving something like ten billion fan questions about why the gun part was even there, they kind of elected to cop out and claimed that it doesn't actually shoot bullets (despite the gun mechanism), and instead shoots shockwaves through the blade. Then again, hiding behind "it's fantasy" is never a good excuse, unless the thing literally works on magic. And it should be noted that the real "gunblades" in history were experimental and never really caught on. And they were only really guns with a blade about the size of a large dagger attached. It just wasn't feasible for many reasons. Including the fact that melee weapons must withstand tremendous stress during combat, and building it upon a gun mechanism means that separate, rather finicky and frail parts will have to take the stress. That won't really work too well for long, and you'll just end up with a broken blade and a gun. Bayonets were really the closest they came up with for a functional design, and those are pretty far from any real "gunblades". Really, there's other problems with the fantasy version as well, just as a blade just from the shape, but the gun part is a big thing already.
It's called the key blade because it was modeled after the X-blade (X pronounced Key) which did have a shard edge, also being a magic weapon when Sora swings it it does for a shard edge in air of light. Although there is no excuse for the weight of the weapon, nor the guard. Great vid.
As much as I appreciate the idea of realism in fiction, and I take everything very seriously, I think that the magic element actually makes some sense here. I pretty sure te entire blade is composed of magic anyway, so I don't think weight is much of an issue. Also, I don't think edge alignment matters, since I'm pretty sure any part of the "blade" cuts effectively through magic. I don't know about the in-world justification too much, but I'm pretty sure in the actually gameplay it appears that the keyblade can move through the boundaries of the wielder to some extent, so that the wielder can effectively use two hands and position his wrist correctly, but that may just be graphics error. If it's intentional (which I somewhat doubt), maybe the wielder can occupy the same space as it to some degree, thereby reducing/eliminating the problem. If magic is based on symbolic power and relation to psychological concepts in Kingdom Hearts, (as it is with real-life Alchemy, among other disciplines) then the stronger resemblance to a key may actually make the magic more effective. That would maintain internal logic, and would actually make a great deal of sense. Although they may not have actually designed it according to any logic (one would have to ask the creators, assuming they were both informative and honest), I think it may be good to give it some benefit of the doubt here, as one must judge from the rules and factors of the concept in question, rather than our mundane reality. However, I do completely concur that it would not function effectively in real life, if you consider it as simply a material object to damage your opponent through real-life physics. If you were designing it to be practical in real life, perhaps a better design to maintain its blade aspect would be to actually give it a real one-sided blade, with the teeth of the key on the back side, to add weight to the swing to some degree, and to function as an armour-piercer or a hook or something? That, or you could give it an ax-head in the shape of the key-teeth? That might be less than ideal for maximum pressure on impact, but it could have some function as a hook to catch blades and the like, or at least an ax-head designed to look aesthetically like key-teeth? I think you would have some valid design options, once you fixed the guard. (And preferably including a well-designed pommel, thereby granting you the option of ending your opponent rightly. That would make a cool limit-break.)
That's a super good point about striking with the bottom bit, you could effectively redesign the other end as a hollowed out handguard, which allows it to perform more like an axe, or even a sword if you felt so inclined
Gonna incorporate things like 'broken wrist time' and 'broken thumb time' into my daily vernacular.
"Oh, you touched my sandwhich? That's broken knee time."
+Kyross I used to be an adventurer like you, but then I took somebody's sandwich.
This must be the most hilarious comment I've read on UA-cam. Well done
SOMEBODY TOUCHA MY SANDWICH
Let me guess... someone stole your sandwich...
That's a paddlin'
I dont understand why so many people are pissed. It's just an entertaining view at the actual practicality of the keyblade if used in real life, which obviously would be horrendous. I am a huge Kingdom hearts fan and I thoroughly enjoyed this video
dan winters Thanks for getting the point. :)
same here, it was quite enjoyable as there is a clear line between fantasy and reality
keyblade is cool and awesome in the game but it make no sense in reality and that is a fact that we should accept and get over with as this video was for entertainment purpose only
dan winters the problem is him making statements making fun of the creators without understanding the meaning. He also doesn't clarify this is for practical use but just bashed the weapon in general
PNUTBTERON BWLZ I do not want to sound condescending but, did you read the warning at the 10 second mark, especially the the bottom two sentances. If you are only talking about the tone and words, I am content with the warning at the beggining. Maybe you are not content with that. I like his somewhat off the script talking.
dan winters there's even a warning at the beginning explaining that.
Funny thing is that Sora usually hits enemies with the back of the key bit, so in essence it’s just a glorified club.
He'd definitely love the χ-blade from KH Birth By Sleep.........
We Don't talk about that mess.
Brian Jones idk why
I never heard of that and I’m scared.
I actually think it looks pretty cool 😎
yeah no that thing is already ridiculous, let's pretty much 2 kingdom keys in an x shape so the guard is double the width of the kingdom key so already it's stupid
my guess they called it a blade is because keyclub doesn't roll of the tongue
plus sora and other keyblade welders use the cylindrical part to attack with
keybashingthing
there. no blade in the name, still sounds awesome, rolls off your tongue easily even if you don't know what it really is.
"hey, dude, what's that... keybashingthing?"
"Yes, exactly"
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:-D
+MidnightSt bruh
Key-Mace sounds cool though
True
It would be useful if you're fighting a big fuck off door.
such a useless sword. doesn't even have a pommel. how are you supposed to end them rightly?
but it does
Dale Stevens you flip it around like he said and kill him with the pommel
Maybe that little chain thingy in the back can be thrown. It even unclips for easy removal, (blasphemy, I know). Maybe...
Dale Stevens god damnit
Dale Stevens you call in goofy
when you know that in KH, most Keyblade Masters are dead, and when you watch this video, you know the truth... most of them where killed by their own weapon XD
i love kingdom hearts but seriously i'm still laughing with your comment
Should have used a Blitz Ball instead, those poor silly sods.
@Mr. Webb to be fair, they got killed by the same weapon they wield.
Surprised you didn't mention the keychain. Because having a foot long chain with a heavy piece of novelty jewelry at the end seems like a great way to throw off balance or get it tangled around your arm or the already ludicrous guard. Love Kingdom Hearts, love the Keyblade's design aesthetically, but definitely a ridiculous weapon, which I guess comes with the territory the moment you name your weapon the "KEYblade" xD
+TheValiantBob Well he did remove the chain in his remodel.
+kevin rianto ah, you see, the chain is just a improved pommel to end him rightly.
i can't see that the chain would be un-screwable, you're making this up.
or is it like each chain link is a clip-on connecting to the others? so you can un-clip each link separately?
Multi-pommel for many rightly endings!
Well it does end the enemy rightly, in a way.
TheValiantBob yeah, I made a replica a couple years ago and the chain was very annoying to deal with.
I mean it can basically change into whatever you want it to so the guard could very well be an illusion I mean the dang thing turns into a space motorcycle
Okay need lol
I believe that the back "guard" is illusion magic, based on the fact that Sora's wrist clips through the keyblade model whenever he swings it.
I think that’s more lack of attention to detail than anything else
@@theravenlordmasterofthevib8991 They knew what they were doing...
You are definitely overthinking this. Clipping like that is in almost every game. It’s either overlooked or the developers decide it’s not worth the effort to fix because it doesn’t take away from the overall experience very much
@@theravenlordmasterofthevib8991 Okay... I don't think you're understanding my cynicism. I was trying to poke fun at the game whilst referencing and making a joke out one of the points in the video. I thought my comment about the devs would have clarified the fact that I wasn't being serious, but your comment sufficiently proved otherwise.
Cynicism is almost never obvious on the internet
"You could call it an extra secure key because it has 4 bits"... Wow. A computer science joke on a sword channel. I don't know how to take this. It want to say that I approve...
I LOVE magical weapons. I love how they look, I love how people fight with them...
But I also love looking at how badly designed they are in a practical sense.
Thank you for making this video!
Dark Souls 2 has a much more feasible version of 'key blade'. Even the lock/keyhole itself is a crazy masochist.
Yes
I really like that sword too. It's a surprisingly useful greatsword.
Wait, what weapon is that? O-o
Key to the Embedded.
Yeah. What sucks is that you end up losing it if you use it, though. Which makes no sense.
I can understand the point of the other videos... but seriously key blades? I don't think the designing department considered any practical use of the 'weapon'
the fact it started out as a chainsaw sword only makes it more obvious they weren't going for a practical weapon. lol.
The keyblade is a very cool design, it does not use sharpness to strike its foes, but rather magic as it is within any hit. Notice in the beginning of the first game, where you cannot strike the heartless before you get the keyblade? It's because it's a magical weapon, which sharpness comes from magic, used to specifically strike the heartless. :)
Marc Jensan i couldn't agree any more with you
Marc Jensan I still think it's a horribly terrible looking weapon, but that's personal preference.
Funny thing is, is that if you pay attention to how sora swings the thing he almost never hits with the key bit side he hits with the ket bit facing him so he hit with the rounded rod
Disclaimer: This is not butthurt. I'm just having fun joining the debate, that's all.
The Keyblade's obviously at least semi-metaphysical, as it can land strikes on metaphysical beings (heartless and Nobodies cannot be killed by normal weapons) and the characters simply form them out of some manner of light energy. Therefore, if it is not strictly a physical object, you cannot determine its weight, thus the only way that a larger keyblade would slow a person down would be (tenuously) aerodynamics.
Also, as it is the "power" of the keyblade that deals out the destruction, not the actual impact, it does not need a sharp edge. Noticet that in the games the Keyblade wielders can destroy or remove a person's heart merely by touching the tip of the blade to the person's chest.
But you are absolutely right about the key-handle-shaped knuckle guard making it cumbersome to use, although it wouldn't be quite as bad as you describe as Sora is striking with the cylindrical part of the weapon, not the key itself. (See 2nd paragraph) Also, although the artwork shows Sora holding the keyblade one-handed, the dimensions are slightly different in the games and he is clearly seen wielding it two-handed, which would diminish the disadvantage a great deal.
Again, just for fun, guys. =>
What's more, you don't even strike with the key part. You use the back end. When I first got in to Kingdom Hearts, it was so distracting. Btw, love KH, diehard fan
"it's to not damage the key part"
With a bit that large and thick and it's so magical, there's no need to use the back
Don't forget about that chain sticking out of the pommel. That thing flying around could jack your forearms up pretty good.
0/10, No pommel to screw off and throw
Couldn't you remove the chain from the bottom and throw it
@@frankiebigrings7048 yes but it would make the keyblade useless
since its what gives the keyblade its shape and power.
only way that "weapon" would be effective is when your opponent sees your welding that thing and starts laughing uncontrollably, you could take advantage of them not paying attention and bash them in the head with that thing.
and when it trays swing it stuck in near brush
anti4zz could also be used on a giants doors as a bump key
anti4zz Serious question: were you drunk when you were typing that? Your comment literally makes no sense.
I know this is seven years old but, he literally just made Ventus's keyblade but held it right way up and I love that
That's very informative, now I know what I should be doing if I was to use a giant key as a self defence tool in a fight for life.
I think I might have thought of some decent techniques you could use when fighting with the key blade, the first one is using the bottom of the Key Bit to sorta grapple your opponent's weapons and somewhat take control of it, and #2 you can do a draw cut motion to smash the bit in your opponents face and make them suffer a broken nose time long enough to beat the shit out of him/her until you win, basically. (Edit) on the topic of sword techniques you could use with a non modified Keyblade, another technique you could use is "Half-Swording" to both have some control of the Double Knuckle Guard so it hopefully won't break your wrist or thumb in combat (by kinda using it like a spear) while being able to dish out as much damage as possible.
+Cody The Dragon Samurai. Key blade is awesome.
Ragnarok Sora - And unusable.
one thing you didnt mention was the fact that several characters tend to use the keyblade with a two handed grip despite the fact that the hilt is clearly designed to be one handed
People need to stop acting like skallagrim hates fantasy because he bashes the swords, i actually have the same issue with many fantasy weapons myself but i can ignore the problems they would cause in real life enough to enjoy how awesome they are. As much as it butthurts people, he IS making valid points. most of these weapons could NEVER function properly in the real world without serious problems, doesn't mean we can't accept that fact and still like the weapons in question.
dat one dragon gurl
Thanks for getting the point.
the problem is that people forget skall only takes realistic properties into consideration, not the magical abilities,
kristian perez
if he was taking the magic properties into consideration it would defeat the purpose of the entire damn series. he's here to determine how these blades would functio
n when under the laws of physics, not the laws of fantasy...
Cute eldritch girl i know that, some people dont know however and thats why they comment on the fantasy abilities, is what i'm trying to say,
kristian perez
my bad^^;
I still have no idea why it was called the Keyblade. Why blade? Would Keyhammer or Keyaxe ruin the mystique?
tetrisclock Probably just because they thought it sounds "cooler".
It's named for it's two uses, as a key and as a blade sinces it's design intent and gameplay intent is to be used as a sword. Though some of the Keyblades don't really fit the name too well. With the Kingdom Key that's seen in this video being the biggest offender.
***** truth is, they are already using the illusion magic, its just a saber. yes I am being sarcastic
tetrisclock Its primary use is a magical key that opens stuff. The keyblade has many, many, many forms. Some of which are much more narrow and a lot of them have real sharp edges. So depending on its variation it can either be a slashing or a blunt weapon. In the universe its main use is to defeat particular types of enemies which conventional weapons struggle with (due to these creatures being supernatural). It is also an excellent magic conductor so in this universe... there's that. It doesn't excuse it's pathetic design, especially if you see the ultimate keyblade called the key-blade. This is so goofy looking, pun intended.
tetrisclock Main reason is they use the opposite side of the 'blade; as attack. The key-bit is mainly there for aesthetics to keep the key motif. Some are sharper and are actual blades, still silly, but there ya go. Its more like a bat really
I feel like the keyblade is more of a wand :I lol
Adam Crawford you DO channel magic through it(among other things), so that may not be that far of a stretch.
A wand you hold like a sword and hit people with. Repeatedly. All the time. Like, 99% "hit people with it" and 1% "cast magic with it."
With impractical fantasy weapons i usually assume they have some invisible magic blade around them just so they can slice things.
@@JaftenLKA Truth, as not only a kh fan but a fan of magic in general, ( I always pick the mage) I am sad about how SEVERELY underused magic is in kh. Wisdom for is almost always at the bottom of the list I drive forms. Though this aqua mod encourages you to use magic a ton (obviously since you are playing as aqua). ua-cam.com/video/7wa71oXIDTw/v-deo.html
Couple of things.
First, yes in a fight with actual realistic weapons, and conditions, the keyblade would be utterly pointless. In fact nothing about it would be functional, as the "key" part is not even used, if you look at Soras fighting style, he hits enemies with the blunt side.
First Sora is not a trained Swordsman. He got that cool loking magical key thingy that can hurt the literal darkness that he fights, that with a conventional wooden sword, he couldnt even hit. It wasn't inefective, it just didnt hit at all. Later in the game, once Sora actually mastered magic he is able to hit enemies with the wooden sword, so the basics are as such.
It is magic. There is nothing about said "keyblade" that actually harms enemies, its the inherit magic that deals the damage.
It is also revealed in lore, that the darkness can be fought with conventional weapons, by magic users, however nothing but the keyblade is actually able to release the hearts stolen by the darkness, so the hearless just reform in the realm of darkness and just go back to the realm of light. In other words, anything but the keyblade can only temporarly destroy the physical form, but it will allways just come back.
Aside from that, if you look at all the animations of how to fight with a keyblade, it has no similarities to actual fighting of anything. Because in every action, magic is involved. The way Sora turns around when guarding, purposely turning around exposing his back, that still gives him full 360 degrees of perfect invulnerability says it all.
So no matter how much realism you wanna try to add into the mix. If the keyblade would work as intended with all the magical benefits. No conventional weapon could harm a keyblade user. Sora is literally able to reflect bullets. Not magical enery shots. Literal bullets (Port Royal) While dancing around and exposing his back. Perfect imunity.
Edit: About the whole "metal" thing. The keyblade is lterally materialized out of the strength of your heart. There is not solid material, it dissolves and teleports after all. The thing is literally made of energy.
tehSunBro Actually by that last bit... It wouldn't even be energy if it's powered by "the strength of the heart". That would be more in tune with a spiritual force. Basically fighting with an embodiment of "good" rather than fighting with "mmm that's certainly some 'good' and lethal energy!"
Nerd
@@karthrukon2692 Magic.
as far as i know from playing the games you dont strike with the key part but the back so its flat out a mace XD
more of a bat then
Also it’s used two handed so the guard thing doesn’t really matter as much
He also made the handle too small so its extremely limited.
Kitsune in that case it's just a metal stick, not even a blade
It's inconsistent on which side to use actually.
And now for the next video.....Sephiroths 100ft katana. Masamune
that is based on a japanese nodachi sword.
RyuSaarva If you look at the tsuka and the size of it compared to the blade. You'd know that it's based on a Katana. A nodachi base design would have a far longer tsuka. For example, the Tensa Zangetsu from bleach has a base Nodachi design due to tsuka length my friend.
normal people do not know anything about somethign like that, people say it's not a real sword simply because of it's length.
I see, I'm sure there are live blade varients of the Masamune. Completely impractical but still dangerous.
to my knowledge they were used by cavalry units who really hated polearms to get longer reach and also used against cavalry units by cutting horse legs.
oh jeez, you should see the million keyblade variants, you'd probably faint
oh god HE KNOWS
10:23
The keyblade made me cringe when I first saw it too.
11:50 this is actually part of the lore from KH1 where the magic in the keychain is able to change the form of the keyblade. Also the way a keyblade is wielded is having it appear out of nowhere. Combine that with the thematic components of the story in KH2 about existence/nobodies and you have a way to explain the "illusion magic" part of the universe.
Also the modification you made at the end of the video is actually the same concept as Ventus' keyblade. It has a normal D guard like you said although it doesn't have the axe head like you'd ideally like.
I just wanted to state two things I saw wrong in this video.
-The keyblade is clearly a one handed weapon, yes, but Sora wields it with both hands, most of the time. You can tell by his stance when combat starts.
-And, while this part would not change the functionality, to my knowledge, and from what I've seen in the games, Sora strikes with the back of the "blade", as opposed to the key part.
Neither of these would change the functionality of the weapon, I just wanted to point them out.
i dont think that would help alot
i dont think grab that thing whith two hands because could be a little unconfortable and yeah probably are some other options in combat but you maybe cant conntrol well the sword
Moose G. Mad Click "Read More", guy.
There is no reasonable excuse for wielding such a small weapon with two hands except that whoever made the Keyblade clearly didn't design it for combat. Skall made it to scale; It has room for one hand. When you put two hands on a one-handed grip, you don't get momentum like you would with two handed weapons, AND you lose the maneuverability that you want a one-handed weapon for.
They could have sharpened the spine of the key (Don't know what it's called) to a axe-like head, or curved it a bit like a scimitar and have the key bit act as a weight to drive more into the cut. It would still have to be thinner, but at least then it would be more blade than key.
If I was re-designing the Keyblade to mimic more closely how Sora actually uses it, I'd sharpen the blade (Like how I said above) and give the grip room for two freakishly large hands (Since everyone in Kingdom Hearts has them). If the key shape needs to be retained, they could have extended past the guard instead of having a useless, swinging charm. That way it looks mostly the same with more room and versatility!
Mideval Exponents Maybe because the blade is half his height considering he is still a kid?
I wish Skall would do more of these. I love seeing impractical fantasy junk get analyzed.
My girlfriend requests the scissor blade from Kill La Kill... please rip it to shit - it's ridiculous! xD
Fun thing is that it could actually work, its basically an overised scimitar or sabre
Yeah, from the looks of it, it's just a scimitar with the curve going the wrong way but the blade still on the right side. Weird, but functional.
In general, I think it would be interesting to look at half a pair of scissors used as a blade. The Character 8 from the movie _9_ uses such a thing too...
It is annoying to talk about that movie because the title is a number and all of the characters' names are numbers... Less so in Dutch because the English makes it a bit clearer you're not just talking about numbers, but still...
PIXELFLUX watch man at arm's video, they made one perfectly works
Oh my god yes. Although it might be surprisingly effective...
The makers of star wars clone wars cartoon clearly watched this video, thought 'nah' and came up with the inquisitor's lightsaber
maistromann At least on that one the guard serves a purpose.
First of all, the inquisitors appear in *rebels* not on clone wars....
And two, a lightsaber can cut from all directions
It uses energy to cut not force
Piroclanidis It uses heat, not energy. Energy is not a thing, energy is a property of things.
Keyblade? Lol, it's really need to say anything about it?
This sword is described even in the game more like a magic toy than something that cuts through the sharpness.
fuck you
stupid dumb ass bitch
Yes because its called a "blade"
@@NameN4chname HELL YEAH FUCK HIM!
@@brushogun2051
You two act like fucking children smh
Oddly enough, in modern keys for pin and tumbler locks, the part that goes into the lock is actually called the blade.
This was the first Skallagrim video I ever saw, and he tore apart my favorite sword from my favorite videogame... and I've loved his videos ever since and now I'm in HEMA because of him.
It's simple: Sora is soooo good at figthing, so he has to use this ridicolous sword as a kind of offset. A handicap if you will, so he just doesn't mow throught the enemies and kill all the challenge and fun in saving the world.
"You're taking it way too seriously!" the fanboys squeal, totally oblivious to the irony of their own statement.
TheTundraTerror
Yep, you got it. :)
Do sword-chucks! Do sword-chucks!
Sword chucks yo.
Some suggestions: Mention some of the people who suggested your current weapon. If it's from an anime or game, use some of the music from the original score, so if you cut your sound, we don't notice. Make a note on which form it is, if it has multiple forms. (Since this is the Keyblade, you would call it the Kingdom Key form) I understand the point of using a green-screen, but if you can find a regular wall, that would cut down on the phasing in and out of the video, and fuzziness surrounding anything with movement. Pull your camera back so you can demonstrate your swings without having to worry about going out of frame or hitting your camera. When you're standing, wear a clip-on microphone, so as to cut down on the exterior sound, or get cleaner sound.
That's about all I've got right now. I appreciate your take on the Keyblade, but I'd have mentioned the Fenrir blade, which is actually a blade that's styled like a modern key. (With teeth all along it on both sides.) Also, you would hate the Ki-Blade. (It's actually a really weird X-type character that my keyboard can't type, but it's pronounced "Key" or "Kai")
My suggestion for future weapons: Final Fantasy 7 and 8 Protagonist weapons, Ivy's Chain/Whip-sword from Soul Calibur, or The Soul Calibur itself.
If you read all the way through this, thanks for acknowledging my input. I'm glad that you took the time to read this, and I hope you'll take some of my advice. (If you do take some of my advice, thank you. I appreciate it!
"its too wide too thick to be called a sword"
hmmm this is remind me of something.
No, DON'T MENTION THAT KIDDO!
I enjoyed the whole *crack* "Painful!".
Wait a second... How is this thing categorized as a weapon? It literally looks like a giant key to me...
In the game characters use it to fight with, as a weapon.
Interesting game.
How have you never played or heard about kingdom hearts?
***** Wouldn't that be akin to blunt force? It's more like a wrench then.
The Key Wrench
***** Yeah, I noticed that too. I Don't think he has ever played the games.... He wields it completely different and in a less effective way than it is wielded in the games, in which they wield it more like a metal pipe than an axe.
The impractical design always did bother me ever so slightly as a kid; not that I cared, I was still just a kid, but I remember always wondering how Sora would have ever been able to effectively wield a giant key with no actual blade to speak of and a guard that would limit movement and be uncomfortable in the best case scenario.
The only problem with your analysis is the fact that the key part at the end of the weapon is not faced to the enemy when the keyblade is used, you can see that in the game, which made the keyblade even useless once it hits the same points that a staff would normally hit.
Ah, yes... Very magical and specifically designed to destroy the wielder's scaphoid. In role playing games we refer to those as "cursed weapons."
the makoto
The bane from borderlands
The keyblade can also shoot fire, extend to be used as a whip, it can be transmuted into an entirely different weapon, it appears out of nowhere when you're attacked (like it's your freaking spidey sense or something) and oh yeah... it can turn into vehicles which can be used for space travel...
"Fantasy Weapon" doesn't even begin to cover it. A lightsaber is more realistic than a keyblade and its a "Sword" made of super heated plasma emitted from a flashlight sized device that somehow knows how to stop 3 feet out.
What about Psi blades?
The ones on protoss zealots.
The the plasma is suspended in a containment field btw
electromagnetic fields
Wathever was reading it from wookiepedia
1.It shoots not fire it casts it, there is no mechanik behind it.
2. The "transmutation" is forced by the keychains.
3. It apears becaus it is a part of you so I understanded that^^ So Spidey sens is not so far away from the truth :D
4. The vehicle part is complet wrong. That are Gummijets and the keyblade has nothing to do with them.
And if you want to now how you can curve a plasmastream.
Just call Zern in Switzerland.
Keyblades strength comes from the power of the heart
you are right sora is chosen one who can use it
in game the power of heart is exist in the story to use as key blade master
but in common sense the power of heart is looklike chi or fajing internal power
sora is just a kid who looklike he had intenal power and or use adrenalin or sub cocsious power . the end just dont compare game and real fight so much.
your idea is interresting i like it
make me think about shaolin
วิชชากร สุขวัฒน์ Sora is not a chosen one, btw.
Although, you have a point, if we see "the strength of the heart" like chi or qi or something like that, Sora would not have even a chance to do so, 'cause of no training. But, we need to look this "power" as an external force, more like a "divine" and cosmological force that resides in every living being, not like a inner force like chi or qi. They can't be completely compared one to each other
TheNeoKaiser11 oh I see
and he fight for what he love kairi.....and RikU!!!!!! XD
***** fucking died laughing reading that
My main defense for the key"blade" is that it's mostly a magical weapon, and when it's not being used for that, it's pretty much a bludgeoning tool. A steel pipe would hurt just as much as the cylindrical part of the keyblade, and that's pretty damn painful, especially if you're a Heartless.
Every argument I can conjure up, hey beats completely. Well done, sir!
I just got my hands on a replica keyblade, and damn that "guard" keeps going into my wrist, if I strike hard enough it will likely dig into my skin, I'd be better off holding the other side of it and using the "handle" like a mace head.
In the games Sora strikes with the cylindrical part instead of the key bit, basically using it as a baseball bat.
@@karthrukon2692 cause then it won't look as cool
@@karthrukon2692 beating people up with a giant key is cooler than with some regular old sword that everyone has seen millions of times
@@karthrukon2692 my feelings are evidence
I always find your videos fascinating, even though this one was useless, it was quite entertaining.
I'd love to request if you could review one of Skyrim's dedric weapons, they have some pretty cool and vicious designs.
I would also like to see such a video, but it might be easier on him if you suggested a specific Daedric weapon, such as a quest specific item.
Midget Tosser I thought he would just review the sword by default or at the very least leave it to him what is best to review.
If it's entertaining it's not useless. :)
***** ^this, lol i believe these videos are to entertain
I would like to point out a few things:
1, the teeth of the keyblade isn't what strikes the enemy, therefore more of a club than an axe.
2. Sora has been shown to change how he holds it from one to two hands depending on the specific form and attack that's being used
3. it's the physical manifestation of his heart, so I doubt there's any superstrength involved in holding it.
that being said, I love this video and agree that the keyblade is stupidly impractical in real life
I don't understand why so many people get offended by criticism of a nonexistent weapon. Yeah, maybe it's just a game and it's not necessarily meant to be practical, but it's not like criticizing something for its flaws is totally out of line.
The Keyblade isn't /really/ a sword.
It's made to be a giant key which you can use to smack people.
Yes. To smack the creator for coming up with and/or designing such a utterly unpractical and useless weapon.
@@Krytern um no the reason why the keyblade is like that
because the original idea for the weapon was not approved by disney.
the original design was a chainsaw
and sora looked like a monkey.
but disney did not want a chainsaw in the game
and wanted mickey mouse to star the game.
but as a compermise
sora's design was changed to have clothing an a color pallet
that was like mickey mouse and he was no longer was a monkey
and the weapon was changed
into the keyblade.
and no its not a useless weapon
its able to lock the keyholes in the heart of worlds in order for them to not disappear
and it can be used to cast magic spells.
@@Boomrainbownuke9608 "and no its not a useless weapon its able to lock the keyholes in the heart of worlds in order for them to not disappear and it can be used to cast magic spells." That isn't what I meant lmao. He swings it around as if it is a sword or something, which it is completely useless to be swung around.
@@Krytern It's swung as a sword to make contact with enemies XD
Once it's touching, the magic of the weapon (being a manifestation of a strong heart rather than a physical object) does the rest.
I don't really think people need to physically beat others with their conviction to get stuff to happen, so why should a weapon brought forth by conviction need to do anything more than make contact?
@@viteseul What about the handle? Due to the "guards" he wouldn't even be able to swing it the way he does, magic or not. His wrist would probably be broken too. Can you explain this?
ITS THE KEY CLUB !!!
keyclub doesn't sound cool
+Tracks Darren Yeah it does. It sounds like a very cool disco club.
It aint a disco club though
+Tracks Darren The let's make it into a disco club. 60s here I come!
Oh, no one understood what type of club i was talking about
Oh man the reason I got into skall all those years ago. What a trip down memory lane. Keep rocking skall, now and forever.
You could also just make the whole thing a one-edged sword with the key on the dull side.
I'm actually playing Kingdom Hearts 1 right now. In its defense, Sora doesn't actually strike with the key part. He strikes with the blunt side, basically using it as a metal club, so he doesn't worry about edge alignment.
Even so, as much as I like this game, I still think it's a dumb weapon, even if only slightly less than I did before.
He genuinely kind of scared me when he viciously chopped of the guard with his nerd rage
The crinkle from the tape and cardboard really adds to the illusion of his hand breaking
I’ve never heard Kingdom Hearts explained in a way that didn’t sound like the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard.
*Ansem breaks Sora's wrist by hittin the guard*
Sora: "Heal!"
Ansem: Are you darking kidding me
Disney said they had to use a key
As a weapon
bplmanager
I like keyrod. Unlocking peoples hearts with a keyrod? Probably wouldn't be a disney game for much longer I'll say that right now.
Yes... and as he said in his video, it still could be practical if for example they holographycally did the guard or something.
Troy Hubert
haha are you kiddin? Disney is a real fucked up company. Go look into it, they are somewhere in between charles manson and hitler.
Yeah... except fot the "killing people" part
In fairness, Sora maneuvers just as well with the keyblade, as he does with his wooden trainer. This seems to suggest that the weight would be approximately that of an average hand-and-a-half sword.
If you're going to do this, you may as well do the "Penetrator" of Saints Row the Third
nagual1992 it's a dildo club. What's there to point out?
President of Whiteistan That it's really good for stabbing butts
THISSS
To be fair, why should weapons be practical in Saints Row? You're a literal god in that game
And the Penetrator does fit
The key blade gives the wielder a plus 5 against the laws of physics.
I enjoy a realistic analysis of the keyblade, its a little unreasonable for actual combat, but have you seen Aweme's Man at Arms where they crafted the Keyblade with an actual cutting blade on the end? Its pretty cool.
Thank...YOU! I've always been a fan of KH and played through all the games. But ever since I was a child even I noticed the errors of trying to wield this as a weapon. I understand the "key" part of the name, but with the newer games allowing it to morph it leaves the option to morph INTO a practical blade. Subbed btw :)
you actually changed Sora's key"""blade""" for Ventus Key"""blade""" in a nutshell. LMAO.
Key blade almost sounds like an oxymoron.
its close! I just thought the same thing
You don't actually strike with the crown shaped part ( I don't know what it's called in english ).
Look at videos from Kingdom Hearts 1 and you'll see that Sora strikes with the other side. Also there's no need for a (physical) blade, since the keyblade is a magical weapon that draws out the power of the heart.
As for the cutting buildings in half: As one gains more and more experience using the keyblade one can learn to use it telekinetically and even alter it's shape. (Look at Terra from Kingdom Hearts 2 Final Mix)
I partially agree about the handle. I built a twohanded keyblade out of wood once (just a basic design, it had an oval shaped handle) and it wasn't bad at all, it was surprising how little the handle got in the way.
I like your Fantasy Weapons Scrutinized videos and generally agree with what you say. But sometimes it just doesn't make any sense at all to force real world physics and properties on magical themes.
I understand that many fantasy worlds base themselves around realistic conditions (like in your skyrim weapons video) but this time I'll have to disagree for the most part.
they call the crown part the "fork" or the prongs of the key.
I like to be able to imagine my self as the character I'm playing. So I need a bit more realism.
Yes, but it still gets in your way. It doesn't matter if you strike with the spine of the key or not, you're still misaligned. Try using a hammer with your arm misaligned (carefully) and you'll see how any weight that's off the centerline causes torque. It's not great.
Plus, the key guard actually does screw with your wrist because your wrist can't line up with the force. If your wrist can't line up, you get torque in your wrist, which can cause repetitive stress injuries if you're hitting lightly. If you're actually trying to hit or block something your opponent can actually bounce your weapon back into your face if your weight isn't solidly behind the blade. Had a sword teacher do that to me a few times before I learned how to hold the blade. Not fun.
Dude, he's already explained the stance he'd be taking when scrutinizing ALL the 'fantasy' weapons in his series. Though in case you missed it, 0:10
Max Hickman
Then let's see weapons like arrows with magic heads, or hilts that sprout magical blades? Magic based is magic based. Bring it here, yes of course it's going to look stupid and useless. The Keyblade is useless without magic. And it's obvious. To scrutinize it is like looking at a wizard staff and saying its just a stick. What's the point in looking at these types of weapons?
The person who first commented isn't arguing the reason the series exists. Its the weapon under the microscope.
The key bit is suppose to be on the opposite side when striking. So you're swinging with the blunt end, not the key.
I've held a fully sized one, both wood and metal and didn't bother me at all.
certain key blade designs are technically more practical than kingdom key, a way to make it more practical other than slicing the gaurd in 2 and sharpening the teeth of the key, is to make it more of a longsword type design and thin the gaurd a bit
Man at arms made a replica keyblade that actually cuts at the key part. though he did say the key blade was not at all meant for cutting,while looking at the pictures, it did look like it was based off of axe logic, compared to sword/blade logic. also if we want to look more into it, the blade changes form depending on the chain (and other stuff) so a fenrir, soul eater, the original keyblade aka X-blade, and kind of the road to dawn, will defeat your lecture about it being useless/ not a blade thing. as for the hilt part....okay, you win...there is no point to the dual hilt guards and one wrong move will be the end of your hands. well played...and even though this is one of my favorite series... your video is pretty enlightening, but i will take the risk and own a keyblade.
again, man at arms dude...if anything, its more of an axe than a sword depending on form
man...at...arms.....i feel as if we all doge that source... i see why he forces you guys to fully read the comments
Sekoy the Angel I've already watched man at arms video, you realize he changed the end of it to make it sharper when the original was much thicker.and if you watch the video again you'll notice he only cut a SINGLE object, everything else was smashing, he smashed the statue head he smashed the door he smashed the 1990s console, the only thing he cut was the cantaloupe which he was able to do cuz he sharpened the tip more than it original was sharpened, a club could do EXACTLY what the keyblade did in the man at arms video...
Watch the video again: Tony and crew never swing the keyblade properly, and in one slomo shot the blade clearly deflects at an angle, precisely as Skall predicted.
Also, Tony's keyblade is hand-and-a-half-sized, as opposed to one-handed.
I would like to hear your take on a Buster Sword from Final Fantasy.
Already done. Use the search function on my channel page.
Okay.
The Dragonslayer from berserk would be a better choice.
Otaku_GameFan you sounded defeated
Huh?
Next episode: Guts' dragon slayer!
I second that.
A practical keyblade would be an axe with a handguard.
Can you look at Gut's sword from Berserk?
Only way the Keyblade could possibly work as it's used in the games, is that it's made of frigging magic. Not made of magic metal or other magic materials, just. . . *made* of *magic*. That cylindrical bit (which is the part that Sora hits things with, not the sticky-out key teeth bit) is alternately as blunt as it looks and sharp enough to slice skyscrapers in half like they're giant butter sticks, depending on what Sora is trying to do with it.
Given the other things you pointed out in the video, I can think of three possible explanations, and none of them are particularly good:
1) The physical forces that any object designated by the universe as a "Keyblade" exerts on its surroundings are almost entirely divorced from the actual form of the object. Sora could be swinging around a pool noodle with the word "Keyblade" scrawled on it with sharpie, and it would still somehow work as long as the universe was convinced of "this is a Keyblade".
2) Physics as we know them are already completely screwed in KHverse, and the Keyblade is only the tip of the iceberg. For example, attempting to explain anything concrete about the sea of handwavium that is the space between "worlds".
3) Both 1 and 2.
(And yes, I *am* a Kingdom Hearts fan. Look at the adorable evil saltshaker in my icon. You just don't get very far as a critic in a creative writing community when you treat works you like as if they are exempt from having flaws or absurdities, and that's where I'm coming from here.)
wow, you didn't have to write a book about it
*write
I tend to be that verbose about everything, for the record.
You can write, but you really can't read. Does "Don't watch if you are easily butthurt" ring a bell?
It is apparently you who cannot read. My entire first paragraph is expounding on the ways the Keyblade makes no sense. I then go on to show that the only ways to explain it in-universe ("Keyblade" is an idea) or out-of-universe (Squenix cannot into physics) are *extremely* handwavey.
Then I have a parenthetical aside paragraph at the end that's basically "Please do not eat me, rabid KH fanpiranhas". Again, I am a writing critic *and* a KH fan, so I have firsthand experience with the rabid KH fanpiranhas. They scare me.
I'm not sure where the butthurt here is.
Sorry about that. My bad.
I tried my damnedest to suspend belief when it came to this weapon when I played this as a kid. In the end I just ended up using Fenrir or something that *kind of* looked like it could sorta cut through things and even that felt kinda silly. So yeah, kind of a cool creative concept but in use it was kinda silly. Should have made it surround itself with a visible blade-like energy or something when it cut. Something to say *"this is how its cutting buildings in half"*.
"Should have made it surround itself with a visible blade-like energy or something when it cut."
I always imagined the keyblade to be a kind of amplifier. In Kingdom Hearts Sora fights with his heart. Later in the game he was able to injure Heartless even with his wooden sword. So the Keyblade only draws that power out and gives it a needed shape.
MarcoManiac I know how it works in theory. I'm saying that giving some visual indication at some point (even once or twice in a cutscene or something) would have helped make it more "believable". If you have a fantasy weapon I think it should *look* like it can do what it does.
I apologize for responding with something that has nothing to do with your comment, but I always have to commend people for making the classy choice in their Street Fighter characters.
EbonMaster Well in the building fight, it didn't look like he was actually cutting it with the key. It looked like there was some blade like energy forming with the slashes. Plus the key draws out energy from the light within it's user, or darkness and I always thought that, that magic is what enabled it to cut through stuff; like the last boss fight when cutting through the buildings, the slashes were a magical energy like effect instead of the buildings just being cut like regular swords would cut through stuff.. Also Ventus is one character who's keyblade design is closer to the one the guy in the video says would be better to fight with.
Vincent Edwards
But Ventus held his key at the handle, didn't he? His style was so different from Roxas'/Soras
I guess the big chain on the end is so ridiculous it wasn't even worth mentioning.
In KH lore, I believe, Keyblades are supossed to be keys before weapons so naturally they aren't optimal for fighting. In fact, all of them are just replicas of a Keyblade that does have a blade, the X-blade. And even though the X-blade could be used as a weapon, it's primary function was to unlock Kingdom Hearts. So Keyblades are like a broom: its function is sweeping the floor but you can still use it to smack people in the head xD
Ooooh, I'm surprised there aren't more dislikes already. I had a feeling the butts would be amply hurt this time.
Your avatar bothers me.
3 different archer teams
3 different teams of 6
1 duel
I have yet to see someone more normal, yet more broken than the Blight.
Hey, Orpheus!~
One mistake here. Sora generally strikes with the "back-end" of the weapon, making it a club, not an axe. The actual key part is exclusively for opening doors as far as I know. I'm also sure it's called a keyblade because keyclub doesn't sound as cool.
Fun series; I'll be looking forward to the next one.
sora also manages to use it in a 2 handed grip, despite his freakishly oversized hands. But who cares, the games are still awesome.
You forgot about one important thing Skall: it's made of friendship.
while he's completely correct on design, its important to realize that according to the lore, Keyblades have almost no mass for their owners and their shape means nothing, the shape is based on the heart of the one he bonded with and the power of the weapon is based on the power of the wielders heart and without the strength of heart the weapon is as effective as a stick.
Jerry Tengu
and more importantly this is a weapon from the disney universe, i mean, you can't hug goofy and donald duck and then slice and stab creatures with a sharp blade, they needed to design the less dangerous looking weapon possible for their protagonist, and in the end, the obvious choice was to not give him a weapon.
we are talking about his perspective. not the games lore.
A chainsaw sword?
thats crazy man..
Jerry Tengu Looks more like a belt sander of some sort to me...
All valid points, but this does feel like a bit of a cheap-shot. It's like the fantasy sword equivalent of making fun of a kid with Down's Syndrome.
The character uses it as a weapon so I'll judge it as a weapon.
Don't you mean "fantasy sword equivalent of a potato?"
Maybe the whole thing is just a sword with illusion magic applied to it?
At least some of the variants are somewhat reasonable.
One of the KH3 keyblades, Fenrir, looks more like a modern key, which basically turns it into a decent sword with a dumb guard.
Other keyblade designs can vary between aesthetics and hints of practicality.
1:18 You're wrong it does qualify as a blade.
1blade noun \ˈblād\
: the flat sharp part of a weapon or tool that is used for cutting
: one of the flat spinning parts that are used on some machines to push air or water
: the wide flat part of an oar or paddle
Clearly if you were in a canoe you could use this as a oar or paddle. Therefore it is a blade. ;p
Anonymous01959 A blade is FLAT. Even in case of an oar or paddle. That thing however is just a tube.
***** You forgot the key thing at the end of the tube. ;p
Anonymous01959 By that logic a cube is a blade.
Xendrus Idziak If it's on the end of a stick and you are using it as a paddle
yes....yes it is
Anonymous01959 The definition doesn't say "Anything on a stick is a blade" A cactus is flat if you zoom in on it enough in certain places.
suggestion for the next video: Squall Leonhart's gunblade (which actually is inspired by a real blade)
The gunblade's a bit problematic if you try to review the whole "gun" bit, because Square realised quite early how ridiculous it was, and after receiving something like ten billion fan questions about why the gun part was even there, they kind of elected to cop out and claimed that it doesn't actually shoot bullets (despite the gun mechanism), and instead shoots shockwaves through the blade. Then again, hiding behind "it's fantasy" is never a good excuse, unless the thing literally works on magic.
And it should be noted that the real "gunblades" in history were experimental and never really caught on. And they were only really guns with a blade about the size of a large dagger attached. It just wasn't feasible for many reasons. Including the fact that melee weapons must withstand tremendous stress during combat, and building it upon a gun mechanism means that separate, rather finicky and frail parts will have to take the stress. That won't really work too well for long, and you'll just end up with a broken blade and a gun. Bayonets were really the closest they came up with for a functional design, and those are pretty far from any real "gunblades".
Really, there's other problems with the fantasy version as well, just as a blade just from the shape, but the gun part is a big thing already.
Another suggestion, you could do Red Queen wielded by Nero in Devil May Cry 4
That would be awesome.
It's called the key blade because it was modeled after the X-blade (X pronounced Key) which did have a shard edge, also being a magic weapon when Sora swings it it does for a shard edge in air of light. Although there is no excuse for the weight of the weapon, nor the guard. Great vid.
how about a quelaag furysword i would love to see your oppinion
The Keyblade has always bothered me in the game. Glad there are videos ripping into it's ridiculous design.
As much as I appreciate the idea of realism in fiction, and I take everything very seriously, I think that the magic element actually makes some sense here. I pretty sure te entire blade is composed of magic anyway, so I don't think weight is much of an issue. Also, I don't think edge alignment matters, since I'm pretty sure any part of the "blade" cuts effectively through magic. I don't know about the in-world justification too much, but I'm pretty sure in the actually gameplay it appears that the keyblade can move through the boundaries of the wielder to some extent, so that the wielder can effectively use two hands and position his wrist correctly, but that may just be graphics error. If it's intentional (which I somewhat doubt), maybe the wielder can occupy the same space as it to some degree, thereby reducing/eliminating the problem.
If magic is based on symbolic power and relation to psychological concepts in Kingdom Hearts, (as it is with real-life Alchemy, among other disciplines) then the stronger resemblance to a key may actually make the magic more effective. That would maintain internal logic, and would actually make a great deal of sense.
Although they may not have actually designed it according to any logic (one would have to ask the creators, assuming they were both informative and honest), I think it may be good to give it some benefit of the doubt here, as one must judge from the rules and factors of the concept in question, rather than our mundane reality. However, I do completely concur that it would not function effectively in real life, if you consider it as simply a material object to damage your opponent through real-life physics.
If you were designing it to be practical in real life, perhaps a better design to maintain its blade aspect would be to actually give it a real one-sided blade, with the teeth of the key on the back side, to add weight to the swing to some degree, and to function as an armour-piercer or a hook or something? That, or you could give it an ax-head in the shape of the key-teeth? That might be less than ideal for maximum pressure on impact, but it could have some function as a hook to catch blades and the like, or at least an ax-head designed to look aesthetically like key-teeth? I think you would have some valid design options, once you fixed the guard. (And preferably including a well-designed pommel, thereby granting you the option of ending your opponent rightly. That would make a cool limit-break.)
That's a super good point about striking with the bottom bit, you could effectively redesign the other end as a hollowed out handguard, which allows it to perform more like an axe, or even a sword if you felt so inclined