EP 15 | Analysis- How India lost the World Cup against Australia? | 2023 Cricket World Cup Final |

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  • @TheCommonFan91
    @TheCommonFan91  10 місяців тому +2

    Check out our next episode, The Common Fan Awards for the World Cup where we award them all and spare no one !
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    • @RC-ym5cm
      @RC-ym5cm 5 місяців тому

      Its stupid to bring comparisons of earlier captains....Pataudi, Wadekar and many others did not captain in ICC tournaments....Kapil dev has captained 2, Gavaskar 1. Azhar 3 , Ganguly 4, Dravid 2......Dhoni has captained 10.....Kohli and Rohit both have captained 3 each.......I dont understand why even bring that up when the sample size is not comparable.....This is even not even regarding the fact that India was not always a strong cricket team, it took decades to reach there......Kapil has the highest success in that regard- 2 WCs, one of them won, which was undoubtedly India's greatest limited over victory of all time...........India overachieved a lot in Kapil, Azhar, Ganguly era as a whole, compared to what the team was on paper..........

  • @SuperJohn12354
    @SuperJohn12354 10 місяців тому +46

    As an Australian, if you want to know why we win all the time it’s this, we play to win second place is not good enough, India played not to lose and patted themselves on the back for winning 10 games.

    • @drbharatgyn
      @drbharatgyn 10 місяців тому +2

      Spot on... Games against NL/SA were of academic importance, yet bench strength was not tested/experimented upon, just to create few personal records of statistical importance & create an aura of unbeatable team.

    • @sauravsharma1191
      @sauravsharma1191 10 місяців тому +1

      ​@dronejudgein the final game, Ashwin should have been tried.

    • @seemabg4539
      @seemabg4539 10 місяців тому +1

      what ever comments are said from both sides Australia 🇦🇺 has won the final let lndia cry like baby will never forget sunday 19th of November 2023 in Ahmedabad. world cup in lndia lost in lndia "what a tr
      bad luck. 😢 Pakistan is smiling 😊 and lndia is crying 😢 lslamabad. Pakistan 🇵🇰

    • @kosan2875
      @kosan2875 10 місяців тому

      @dronejudge important series???? 🤣

    • @mgreen1206
      @mgreen1206 10 місяців тому +1

      @dronejudgewhat series? Please don’t say the “unimportant and not taken seriously T20” which Australia don’t even play their best players and even the coach has gone home 😢if that’s the series you are talking about it should not even talker about

  • @northshorecouple1060
    @northshorecouple1060 10 місяців тому +60

    India won two series in Australia, yet when Australia toured, india felt they needed to doctor their pitches.
    That’s the mental fragility that stops it from being a great team.

    • @sdutta8
      @sdutta8 10 місяців тому +1

      And doctoring it the wrong way - preparing a slow pitch when the world was saying that India appeared to have the best fast bowlers as well as the best batters against fast bowling. It is mental fragility PLUS stupid planning.

    • @brotherben4357
      @brotherben4357 10 місяців тому +6

      That insecurity comes from the BCCI. They need to back their players more and realise that man-for-man they are better than any team in the world in all 3 formats. In fact, India’s second XI could beat most full-strength teams.

    • @kosan2875
      @kosan2875 10 місяців тому +2

      @@brotherben4357 second XI ? Come on buddy u shouldn't be bragging with a population of 1.6B with all the financial support still can't win a WC in years. Ur best chance was on home ground and u blew it. Tbh with u ur second XI can even beat ur first XI. Skill level ain't that far apart.

    • @brotherben4357
      @brotherben4357 10 місяців тому +2

      @@kosan2875 I’m not Indian, mate.

    • @publius1252
      @publius1252 10 місяців тому +2

      @@brotherben4357 Except in the Final.

  • @mithrasrevisited4873
    @mithrasrevisited4873 10 місяців тому +10

    India needs to stop thinking that they should have won and Australia winning their must have been something else other than Australia, it is starting to get very arrogant. India think they own cricket now and want to tell others what to do. Australia played as a team as in fielding and India played as individual players each trying to impress.

  • @arunnagasamy6277
    @arunnagasamy6277 10 місяців тому +15

    I am telling everyone who compares Australia dominance in '03 & '07. We are forgetting the fact that they were tested brutally in almost all games.They had fought thier way proving they are the best. India were not tested apart from the first game. Also remember Aus dominance was in away worldcups.

    • @publius1252
      @publius1252 10 місяців тому

      And the one they won at home, too, you mean?

    • @nikhilkay1
      @nikhilkay1 10 місяців тому

      they were not tested but Australia and rest of the teams in those eras were not far apart so the matches seemed close enough. Australia although a dominant team in 1999 had a close competitor in SA and Pakistan. In 2003 difference much more in favor of Australia. This Indian team tbh had no close competitor. But you went with the worst pitch in a big ground with just two genuine hard hitters Rohit and Iyer.

    • @arunnagasamy6277
      @arunnagasamy6277 10 місяців тому

      @@nikhilkay1 2023 indian team looked like we had no close competition because of one man I felt. Shami. He just changed the way our team looked on the field. May be if not for his heroics with the ball. We would have been tested a bit more with close matches and tight games. They say" batsmen win you matches, bowlers win you tournaments ". Unfortunately , in the final we didn't give our bowlers much of a chance. But that's where big teams turn dominant. Remember the Aus game against Eng in 2003, the game against Pak when they were something less for 5 . I felt Aus were better prepared to win the match than India on that day. We were high on emotion and adrenaline.

    • @arunnagasamy6277
      @arunnagasamy6277 10 місяців тому +1

      @@publius1252 I mentioned Clearly the Worldcups 03' & 07. I always feel for ODI to sustain and bring in more nations , we need Away teams to win WC. Home advantage reduces the thrill and excitement of the sport.

    • @nikhilkay1
      @nikhilkay1 10 місяців тому

      @@arunnagasamy6277 Shami definitely deserves the man on the tournament, the way he was with the ball was something else. Bumrah provided that suffocation/pressure and Shami came and used it with brilliance. I think for big tournaments you need perfect balance in middle orders like Yuvraj and Raina then the top order stroke players could play their shots freely knowing there is someone like Yuvraj yet to come. Without a perfect middle order like Yuvraj who could bat fearlessly and bowl decently you cannot win tournaments. I think Yuvraj had neutralized Australia in so many tournaments. We have Pandya but little inconsistent and Jadeja who is more of a run adder than a run chaser or power hitter.

  • @billybobd
    @billybobd 10 місяців тому +9

    From my perspective. Even when Australia were 3 for 80 odd the body language from the Indian team was poor. They seemed shell shocked and at a loss for answers. It was like this is not supposed to happen. It's not in the script. I know Australia would still think they would win if in the same situation.

    • @swapanjain892
      @swapanjain892 10 місяців тому

      bingo! India kind of lost when they thought of doctoring the pitch in the final of the wc. This coming from the team that was favorites to win the cup is beyond me. Rohit and Rahul Dravid to blame for the pitch fiasco.

  • @grandmasterjo1
    @grandmasterjo1 10 місяців тому +5

    When you win 10 matches on the trot then you go into panic mode when you’re in a losing situation
    And that’s exactly what happened.
    It’s very easy for experts to give their gyaan before and after the match
    The media professed to the world that india cannot lose the final
    The Indian fans believed it was their birth right to win the 11th in a row
    And while basking in the glory of the 10/10
    Australia studied a plan to win again which they know how to on a big stage.
    In 2011 if there was no Dhoni there would be no cup. PERIOD

  • @Chaudhry_Ghumman_Jutt
    @Chaudhry_Ghumman_Jutt 10 місяців тому +15

    From Pakistan, i feel india only has two gears one is over confidence and the other is under confidence scared and timid, have to find a balanced mentality and maintain that through out also player worshipping is making it hard for team to take strong decisions on selections and giving new blood a shot.

  • @Nicholas.610
    @Nicholas.610 10 місяців тому +7

    I say this respectfully and I truly believe it; India are a team of legends, Australia is a legend team.

    • @TheCommonFan91
      @TheCommonFan91  10 місяців тому

      We think this Indian performance was as close to a legendary team performance as it could have been.
      Australia were better on the D day that makes them so so bloody good. India may still beat them in a 1:1 matchup but a WC final win is special.

  • @leeroyc4148
    @leeroyc4148 9 місяців тому +2

    In India, when a kid gets home from playing cricket his parents say:
    How many runs did you score?
    In Australia, when a kid gets home from playing cricket his parents say:
    Did your team win? That's the difference between Australian and Indian cricket.

  • @stephenhoward8433
    @stephenhoward8433 10 місяців тому +7

    As an Australian i gotta admit. We love spoiling party's, and i love that we hardly even care while it cuts you to the bone 😂

    • @ray.shoesmith
      @ray.shoesmith 9 місяців тому +3

      Winning a World Cup for India is a year long celebration, winning a World Cup for Australia is a Tuesday 😂

  • @bobybrahmam8653
    @bobybrahmam8653 10 місяців тому +11

    1. The problem with Indian team is that we just belive that technical perfection in every aspect of the game gives us the result. But actually it doesn't give the results in every situation. Having a fearless, brave and bold temperament is key. Especially in the situations like finals. We failed to give a counter pressure from time to time while batting. I think that's where we are lacking the most.
    2. Another issue is that our players are not as athletic as the Aussies on the field. Fielding is also an important aspect which can change the course of a game.
    3. Hard hitters are very useful when there is no hope of finding gaps. We should also concentrate on nurturing middle order batters who can do hard hitting.

    • @TheCommonFan91
      @TheCommonFan91  10 місяців тому +2

      The Australian players seemed more planned against us. A wonderful campaign that ended in an anticlimax.

    • @dryn2177
      @dryn2177 10 місяців тому +4

      Ind genetics and physique is not suited for any sports.Better to opt out of sports.Western model is not everything for forecasting country’s development.While starting from beginning when equal physique individuals do not participate its better to opt out of it.Genetics compliments athletism.Going against nature leads to humiliation.

    • @Aman-nk5uq
      @Aman-nk5uq 10 місяців тому +1

      ​@@dryn2177it's a fact. Goras have stronger genetics but we should aspire to be the best. But I agree with your point. look at the heights of Stacs, Cummins and Hazlewoods.

    • @jsb7429
      @jsb7429 10 місяців тому +1

      Yuvraj Singh 2.0

  • @sushrutsharma6927
    @sushrutsharma6927 10 місяців тому +5

    Even after doctoring the pitches ,india cant win world cup. 😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @SuperJohn12354
    @SuperJohn12354 10 місяців тому +9

    The World Cup cricket tournament is where 10 teams come to compete every 4 years for the cricket World Cup for a month and half to always watch Australia win.

    • @TheCommonFan91
      @TheCommonFan91  10 місяців тому +1

      Must say this looks pretty right now. Australian Cricket is a benchmark for all teams across sports.

    • @johndoe5061
      @johndoe5061 10 місяців тому +1

      Fielding is the difference... and some very good bowling.

  • @brotherben4357
    @brotherben4357 10 місяців тому +3

    I know it’s not exactly the same but Modi Cricket WC 2023 made me think of Hitler’s 1936 Berlin Olympics (vs Jesse Owens). Politics don’t belong in sport, especially in peace time.

  • @pb9739
    @pb9739 10 місяців тому +6

    Love this podcast! As an Aussie I reckon one thing is missing in your analysis this Aussie team played for Australia, for their fans, but also for each other, their team mates. I think this teams ‘never say die’ attitude is as much about looking after each other. Listen to all their interviews they genuinely respect and like each other. Cummings and the coaching team have built a team of players that are mates that trust each other and refuse to give up, Because they have each other’s backs, Cheers fella, great podcast!

    • @TheCommonFan91
      @TheCommonFan91  10 місяців тому +2

      Thank you ! Even the Indian team has great camaraderie and respect amongst themselves, no denying that. Just that the Australians were smarter on the day that mattered to overcome a rampaging Indian side.

    • @brotherben4357
      @brotherben4357 10 місяців тому +3

      I don’t think that’s the issue for India at all, mate. I follow a lot of the players on social media and they seem to have a very close-knit group of players.

    • @manoharmeka999
      @manoharmeka999 9 місяців тому +1

      Without cricket, movies or tea stalls, you don't see this much patriotism in this country.

    • @jacobkuntflapp
      @jacobkuntflapp 9 місяців тому

      Yes, we are great, but we don't need to tell everyone. We did well, and so did they. Stay humble

    • @brotherben4357
      @brotherben4357 9 місяців тому

      @@jacobkuntflapp Sorry mate, are you Indian or Australian?

  • @Ducatirati
    @Ducatirati 10 місяців тому +2

    This would be the 20 th show where every talked about India losing, WELL 6 times world champion, this is because, like Aussie Rules Football , an Aussie game , it's in our blood to have a dip , gotta be in it if you want to win it .no offence to Rugger ,but honestly , it's brutal and a game of attrition, but by extension, we know a CHAMPION TEAM ,WILL beat a team of CHAMPIONS , no mentioned they systematic dismantled all when mattered ,, WE know we are better than the sum of our parts , this side is a Cricketing Gestalt , Anaconda of CRICKET, strangles the life out of the oppersition, And at the end of the day India only won one .more Game in the competition . Be Gracious

  • @thatsbollox
    @thatsbollox 10 місяців тому +4

    Just seeing that India had organised a childrens version series immediately after the world cup is all the clues needed. Pure Greed and lusting for cash. With Australia in the country whynot try to jag some extra cash from them whilst they are here. After 6 weeks of playing twice per week we expect them to care about some hit and giggle cricket with the only goal to make a few dollars ? Should be allowed to go home as a complete team. Not every nation has a completely separate 20 over team. We all know it was tacked onto the world cup as a disgraceful and obvious added cash grab by BCCI.

  • @thatsbollox
    @thatsbollox 10 місяців тому +5

    Same old story. Over rating of the Indian team. They churn over and over how "great" every player is, until they convince themselves they are a great team....being disappointed is inevitable.
    On the basis of group games India may have been a slight favorite but we all know thats a silly way to judge the strength of a team. The strength of a team only becomes obvious under pressure. The truth is Australia are simply a better cricket team. They also have the silverware to prove it....lots of it this year alone.

    • @nikhilkay1
      @nikhilkay1 10 місяців тому

      yeah, Australian team themselves are in disbelief they actually pulled this off. Everything had to go their way in the final and they did. This was the weakest Australian team in two decades but they have all the major trophy to show.

    • @thatsbollox
      @thatsbollox 10 місяців тому +1

      @@nikhilkay1 No, they are not in disbelief. They expect to win everytime everywhere.
      The only reason idia was favorite was home advantage. Noone cares about group stage games except fanboys.
      The worst team in two decades as u say ?..those types of teams arnt completely and utterly dominant across multiple continents and win all the big trophies. They have total dominance of the game. I have seen far far worse Aust teams in recent times. 3-4 years ago an example.

    • @nikhilkay1
      @nikhilkay1 10 місяців тому

      @@thatsbollox no one thought India had a home advantage this time, coz Australia toured India right before the tournament began and most of the Australian players have pretty good knowledge about the ground and conditions coz of IPL. I think many Australian players are better player of spin than the past coz they have played in these condition many times. This is actually the only significant trophy Australia have won in Indian condition, actually the most significant. Even the most dominant Australian team couldn't win in India. Australia haven't won a single test series in India (as far as I can remember) whereas India won the test series in Australia with most of their players sitting out injured. This Australian team was the weakest ever.

    • @thatsbollox
      @thatsbollox 10 місяців тому

      @@nikhilkay1 What the hell are you talking about ? Nobody thought India had a home advantage in India ? Grow up. They even got away with changing wickets and tailoring them during the tournament. ....what you mean to say is that YOU dont want people to think India had a home advantage...and IPL is a 20 over game that few of their team play in.
      Yes, the aussies have won series in India.
      If you dont know anything...dont say stupid rubbish.

  • @saeedkanuga8374
    @saeedkanuga8374 10 місяців тому +3

    Indian became too self aware in final. They have to learn to have fun. Dhoni made almost mandatory for team to have fun together and kapil dev had great sense of humor

    • @TheCommonFan91
      @TheCommonFan91  10 місяців тому

      "Became too self aware", that's a great way to sum it up.. We believe Rohit and Rahul had shaped the team really well, they were having fun. Just that they became self aware in the last game.

  • @artislife456
    @artislife456 10 місяців тому +2

    We lost we defeated SA and bundled them at 83..That made the team overconfident and also,the media and fans hyped them to cloud 9..On the other hand Australia was struggling in group stages which made us think that they had turned weak..That is a facade that Aussies always do..they struggle early and then peak around semi finals and finals..This loss will at least be a lesson to never underestimate aussies..

  • @brotherben4357
    @brotherben4357 10 місяців тому +3

    Australia won; India didn’t lose.

  • @thavith
    @thavith 10 місяців тому +3

    I went to the last Boxing Day game that Sachin played. A memory to cherish for a long time. Sadly Sachin was fielding so didn't see him bat...

  • @zenokada2278
    @zenokada2278 9 місяців тому +1

    It’s worth remembering in most of the non Asian countries the cricket World Cup was the second biggest World Cup behind the rugby for most of the tournament
    Here in England rugby got far more coverage than cricket

  • @ReallyInterestingName
    @ReallyInterestingName 10 місяців тому +12

    Indian cricket made me a bigger nihilist towards life than reading anything by Nietzche!

  • @danielm173
    @danielm173 10 місяців тому +2

    India will win all the bilateral, trilateral, quadrilateral, hexagon, octagon,
    PayTM, cycle Pure Agarbathi, BYJU’s learning app, Reliance , Tata Series but
    not any real ICC tournaments

  • @Paul-pl6dl
    @Paul-pl6dl 10 місяців тому +2

    In Australia politic's never gets involved in our cricket never will. And around each ground there are cheaper tickets and then there are higher cost tickets and then there are members tickets so a lot of people can afford to go see a match and what about Karma if you go against the rules. This was the first time a used pitch was used for a Semi final and Final before this World Cup every other country who hosted a World Cup had a new pitch for the Semi and Final so I think Karma just came and bit the BCCI on the arse for changing the pitchs

    • @poushalinag7942
      @poushalinag7942 10 місяців тому +3

      In 2019, semifinal and final was played in used pitch. In 2015, semifinal in Australia was played in used pitch. In 2022T20WC, semifinal was played in used pitch. The loss is not because of pitch.

  • @davidparris7167
    @davidparris7167 10 місяців тому +2

    So, what you are all saying is the CWC23 Final was a Funeral for the Indian Cricket Team and you have all now shown up for The Wake.
    Get a grip what do you think you are, Irish who have made mourning a cultural celebration.

    • @prasannakovalam
      @prasannakovalam 10 місяців тому

      Wouldn't say funeral, but this is another feather in the cap for the Irish - Pissing off the Poms, Guiness, Riverdance and now this!!!

  • @suumitsingh
    @suumitsingh 10 місяців тому +4

    I am hoping Rishabh Pant recovers well and gets to the peak he achieved. Hopefully he becomes the captain and instills a fearless mindset along with a talented team. We need the same spirit which won us the test series in Australia. Difference was fearless cricket and nothing to lose mindset

    • @Nsabuzz
      @Nsabuzz 10 місяців тому +3

      It was a fluke because Australian doesn't took that match seriously

    • @Sothpawman
      @Sothpawman 10 місяців тому

      Cricket is not that serious in Australia anymore, unfortunately. Other sports are more popular. But in the end it is just a sport, not a religion like India thinks. India needs to branch out to other sports.

    • @lakshmidevi0123
      @lakshmidevi0123 10 місяців тому

      ​@@Sothpawmando you think that cricket getting less popular will lead to downfall of Australia in cricket?

  • @rorysusspender5048
    @rorysusspender5048 10 місяців тому +3

    India is a team of brilliant individuals, Australia is a brilliant team. Cricket is a team game.
    India were unbelievable throughout the tournament, largely unchallenged, should have won. Australia were more desperate and had more belief.

    • @rorysusspender5048
      @rorysusspender5048 10 місяців тому

      @dronejudge Australia's bowling and fielding was unbelievable. The sustained pressure restricted the mighty Indian batting line-up to just 240 runs and thus made the run chase that much more attainable.

    • @bellabana
      @bellabana 10 місяців тому +2

      @dronejudgeNope, Australian outsmarted and outplayed India. Australia analyzed the pitch using statistics to examine the results based on its past history and conditions. So they concluded that bowling first was the best tactic due to the dew making it easier to bat later.
      They also were very aggressive in the field, they also frequently rotated the bowling in order to stop India from gaining a rhythm. After they lost 3 wickets they then restricted India to just one 4 in 90 balls. This was a result of a team effort from the bowlers, the fielding and clever field placement by Cummins, the Aussies had done their homework.
      Australia quickly got runs on the board, and even after losing 3 wickets they stayed calm because they knew the dew would make it easier to bat which is why Travis Head was batted aggressive and Marcus played steady cricket to hold down the other end.
      India had the choice of pitches and they got exactly what they wanted but they didn’t do their own research of the conditions, it backfired on them, unlike Australia who had a plan and strategy from the beginning.
      So stop making excuses, India was outplayed in their own country that had the pitch they wanted, a huge home ground advantage with the crowd but they LOST. Australia are 6 time World Cup champions for a reason….

  • @mikeellis4345
    @mikeellis4345 10 місяців тому +1

    India is a team of champions and a team of champions will always be vulnerable to a champion team.

  • @TwelveDeck
    @TwelveDeck 10 місяців тому +3

    Interesting. No BS excuses like I've seen on other Indian podcasts.

    • @TheCommonFan91
      @TheCommonFan91  10 місяців тому

      Thank you ! More episodes coming up ! Do check out our older episodes on the World Cup.😊

  • @thiruvetti
    @thiruvetti 10 місяців тому +4

    Just because Australia won, it doest mean they had the template team to win. Its just that they had nothing to lose. India had all the pressure on them since it was the last ODI WC for Rohit and Kohli. Where as not even the Aussie ex-cricketers gave Aussies a chance in the final.
    Also Aussies had huge weakness in spin department. Fast bowlers are aging and didnt do that well. We won due to the individual brilliance of Travis Head for whom India had no plans.

    • @commonsensemustprevail
      @commonsensemustprevail 10 місяців тому +4

      Crap!!! Australia had a final to lose.

    • @billybobd
      @billybobd 10 місяців тому +4

      Exactly. Australia had a world cup final to lose. They played like they had a world cup to win. I love Odi cricket. You have to do so many things right to win. Prefer over T20. By the way to have hope is to be optimistic. Without hope leads to pessimism.

    • @thiruvetti
      @thiruvetti 10 місяців тому

      @@commonsensemustprevail nah!!. The question is what would have happened to Australian team had they lost? Nothing. There was 0 fan, media pressure on Aussies. As i said even Aussie press wasnt giving them a fair chance in final

    • @brotherben4357
      @brotherben4357 10 місяців тому

      I disagree, mate. The Australian media and public at large don’t accept losses. The Aussie players feel the pressure just as much as any other team but they react to it differently.

    • @thiruvetti
      @thiruvetti 10 місяців тому +1

      @@brotherben4357 Dude - the same Aussie media that didnt even reach the airport to show minute to minute info of a World cup winning side?
      Do u even know the pressure of media and fans in INdia??

  • @jacobkuntflapp
    @jacobkuntflapp 9 місяців тому +1

    Team of champions vs champion team. India one on one are better but Australia got over the line. Plus, the pressure is much different. In India if you start doing bad you really feel it.

  • @jsb7429
    @jsb7429 10 місяців тому +1

    India lost the final at the toss. Not losing the toss but rohit had his tail between his legs while talking to Ravi. You need Singh to win you a world cup like Mahendra Singh Dhoni.

  • @reimannx33
    @reimannx33 10 місяців тому +2

    Australia played with courage and intelligence.
    India played like australia was the boss and lost badly. Now they are acting like cry babies.
    Any questions?

    • @TheCommonFan91
      @TheCommonFan91  10 місяців тому +3

      Who said India is acting like cry babies? Indians haven't complained about anything, just owned up to their defeat humbly.

    • @reimannx33
      @reimannx33 10 місяців тому

      ​@@TheCommonFan91The media and many other folks' incessant complaining about the aussie celebration as being 'disrespectful' is not what one would call introspection about their timid and lackluster performance on the field, in a world cup finals, nonetheless.
      .
      In fact, it is just sour grapes now that their over-confidence has been embarassingly deflated/popped in front their fans full of hubris before they became muted. It's aussies' cup, and if some feel they rubbed your noses in the dirt and insulted their fragile esteem by their celebration, so be it. Be men, not some sappy puppy.
      Suck up the defeat like men and stop playing the badly scripted bollywood, cookie cutter template drama scenes.

  • @johndoe5061
    @johndoe5061 10 місяців тому +1

    Obviously Australia and India are both very good teams, and just maybe the toss and the bravery to bowl first, and then the application of the Aussie bowling and fielding and then a freak like Travis Head to do what he did is the difference. India were fantasic in all other games!

  • @brotherben4357
    @brotherben4357 10 місяців тому +2

    Australia move on very quickly from both wins and losses, except in finals and test matches against India and England. We hate losing more than we love winning.

    • @stephenhoward8433
      @stephenhoward8433 10 місяців тому +2

      👌 fucking hate losing

    • @ray.shoesmith
      @ray.shoesmith 9 місяців тому +1

      Losing against the Poms is harder than losing a footy gf tbh

    • @brotherben4357
      @brotherben4357 9 місяців тому +1

      @@ray.shoesmith I agree. I think it’s because we are tribalistic and see the Poms as the enemy for at least 7-8 weeks a year.
      Opposition supporters in football are only different from us during the time they’re wearing a different coloured jumper. Once the jumper comes off, we’re all back to normal and can be mates again.

  • @swapanjain892
    @swapanjain892 10 місяців тому +1

    India kind of lost when they thought of doctoring the pitch in the final of the wc. This coming from the team that was favorites to win the cup is beyond me. Rohit and Rahul Dravid to blame for the pitch fiasco.However, the pitch was not responsible for the loss. Congrats Aus.

  • @troypeterson5544
    @troypeterson5544 10 місяців тому +2

    Australian cricket is now up there with the best the world has to offer.
    Australia stuck to its winning formula won the toss and we’re confident to ball out the almighty Indian side congrats Cummins for sending India 🇮🇳 into bat and backing your bowling attack too obliterate the Indian batting line up it was first class bowling display . The Australian stuck too a winning formula and that was the difference that this Indian side went away from playing Indian cricket they Indian who is the best ever Indian side too take the field we’re just purely and simply Blown away on the big occasion and got lost on there home soil it’s the Australians that did this convincing

    • @TheCommonFan91
      @TheCommonFan91  10 місяців тому

      Australian team had better temperament for the final !

  • @rorysusspender5048
    @rorysusspender5048 10 місяців тому +2

    Why were the crowds at non Indian games so poor? Very sad.

    • @swapanjain892
      @swapanjain892 10 місяців тому

      They were not. The official numbers at the stadium tell a different story.

  • @Believer17_
    @Believer17_ 7 місяців тому +1

    Chess board game - pat Cummins played in final on their term and conditions one sided 😊

  • @MrWattsi
    @MrWattsi 9 місяців тому +1

    VJ’s ruminations on Hope was pure poetry.

  • @pradyutvatsa3519
    @pradyutvatsa3519 10 місяців тому +1

    Great to collaborate finally on the video, wish it was in more happier times! :(

  • @SteveCaspersz
    @SteveCaspersz 9 місяців тому +1

    You guys provide fantastic analytics and insight. Enjoyed it.

  • @pasqualedilorenzo9089
    @pasqualedilorenzo9089 10 місяців тому +2

    Great in depth analysis of our great game boyz. Fun and enjoyable, cmon Aussie 👏👏👏

  • @exchangedspider
    @exchangedspider 10 місяців тому +3

    Australia has the pedigree, they are vastly superior sport nation they consistently win across various sports, Rugby, Hockey, Swimming, and Bat-Ball.
    India has a long way to go, i felt bad for Rohit. 😊

  • @jamesreynold6711
    @jamesreynold6711 10 місяців тому +1

    India: A team of champions
    Australia: A champion team

  • @prasannakovalam
    @prasannakovalam 10 місяців тому +1

    A great Episode, but the toughest one to talk about. Never want to record such an episode again!!

  • @ritvikshekhar
    @ritvikshekhar 10 місяців тому +2

    Unarguably the toughest episode that we have shot :(

  • @nikhilkay1
    @nikhilkay1 10 місяців тому +1

    100 scoring is so easy these days, they need to remove that stat altogether. I have noticed Virat slows down when he goes to 90s. What's the point of these useless 100s and hero worshipping. And "Prince" has never clicked in any pressure matches, and he is another material in the making for hero worshipping.

    • @TheCommonFan91
      @TheCommonFan91  10 місяців тому

      It was very surprising to see Virat do that this World Cup. Watch our previous episodes where we discuss this in detail !

    • @MarkSchwartzkopff-lz2ow
      @MarkSchwartzkopff-lz2ow 10 місяців тому +1

      Watched lots of games through the tournament and noticed same thing. Didn't lowing effect result in final but did notice Kholi slowing noticeably through 90's to his tons. That is not team play and one day play and very few Australians would do it. That's individual stuff to be reserved for Test matches. Selfish and bad for the team.

  • @vy7697
    @vy7697 10 місяців тому +1

    The mood and betting was that India will win.

  • @cecilhoo9097
    @cecilhoo9097 10 місяців тому +3

    I have never heard of over I billion cry babies. Looks like u guys felt like all u had to show up and the trophy is it's. So many excuses. Learn that in order to win firstly u have to learn to loose

  • @peacesfz03
    @peacesfz03 10 місяців тому +1

    Even when dhoni was captain in T20I World cups 2009, 2010, 2012, 2014, 2016 we lost. And in 2009 champions Trophy dhoni lost. In ODIs 2015 dhoni lost as captain. 5 T20 world cups lost out of 6, 1 each ODI world Cup and champions Trophy lost under dhoni..

    • @TheCommonFan91
      @TheCommonFan91  10 місяців тому

      Yes but it's important that he won 3 titles that no one else did !

    • @peacesfz03
      @peacesfz03 10 місяців тому +1

      @@TheCommonFan91 and he couldn't win the world Cup on 6 occasions which no one did..

    • @artislife456
      @artislife456 10 місяців тому

      @@peacesfz03Nobody other than dhoni has won anything else other than 83 win..He lifted all 3 trophies..Its because of him that we started dreaming of winning world cups..Otherwise,we were not even winning to pakistan and bangladesh..

    • @peacesfz03
      @peacesfz03 9 місяців тому

      @@artislife456 that's rightly said. Nobody other than dhoni in this century has won an ICC trophy. Even likes of rohit. Kohli playing such a good game of cricket indian team is losing the ICC trophies.. I mean to say is we have to see beyond kapildev and dhoni. They are gone.. Every time we saying dhoni hota toh aisa hota waisa kardeta.. Stop saying this and we have to live in the present and think of the future...

    • @freakbae
      @freakbae 9 місяців тому

      Bro comman, even Ricky lost 5/9 ICC tournament as a captain.
      Most important thing is he won CWC and T20 WC at his 1st Captaincy attempt and then his second CT.

  • @kartikey926
    @kartikey926 10 місяців тому +1

    I agree all the points but blaming crowd and venue isn't good what if we had won the final but our team was under confidence and they didn't give any chance to cheer up boundary comes after 20 over and u want crowd to cheer have some sense man.

  • @adtastic1533
    @adtastic1533 9 місяців тому

    Your American friend is wrong. It is ALWAYS Australia's business to be winning WCs

  • @zagariasbooysen7401
    @zagariasbooysen7401 10 місяців тому +2

    Twice in one year don't forget.

  • @HenriHattar
    @HenriHattar 3 місяці тому

    I find it strange that when it is necessary to win that Australia usually does.

  • @rockygupta7339
    @rockygupta7339 10 місяців тому +1

    No use of worthless discussion. You have to see how other teams play over the years. This was pathetic wc. No West Indies pollution fans from other countries. Constant media praising home team. Very bad. Also blame Ipl. No World Cup t20 since it inaugurated. Eng and wi have two. Sa look favorites.

  • @abhisheksharma-sb3er
    @abhisheksharma-sb3er 10 місяців тому +1

    Should have won 😂 isnt that attitude what sink team india in wc2023 finals 😅
    That monologue about hope sound like from sandman, when he defeated Lucifer 😅
    Wtf! With mohali didnt get a single match even though it one of the prominent stadiums in india, they even had one in dharamshala with its being hog in mountain

  • @kneeshiddho
    @kneeshiddho 10 місяців тому +1

    Masala cricket got defeated by pragmatic cricket.

  • @singh0003
    @singh0003 10 місяців тому

    INDIA INDIA yelling/screaming/clapping should be replaced with CHOKERS CHOKERS!!

  • @loblolly777
    @loblolly777 10 місяців тому

    BCCI & IPL are to blame. This is what happens when you think you are entitled to something and favour the cult of the individual celebrity over team grit.

  • @vijaynarainr
    @vijaynarainr 10 місяців тому +1

    This was hard! 😢

  • @mansurbrandy
    @mansurbrandy 10 місяців тому

    India were over confident they thought by winning 10 matches nobody can beat them 😂Jai Australia ❤

  • @AshishBagade-hv4el
    @AshishBagade-hv4el 10 місяців тому +1

    Rinku Singh Rishabh pant have glimpses of MSD winning mindset

    • @ritvikshekhar
      @ritvikshekhar 10 місяців тому +1

      hopefully you're right. But even SKY had similar mindset in T20s that didn't translate to ODIs. Let's see.

    • @AshishBagade-hv4el
      @AshishBagade-hv4el 10 місяців тому +1

      @@ritvikshekhar no no no …look at sky and his facial expressions…he looks like a squeaker not a problem solver…pant and rinku have layers which shows time again again last ball Sixers or winning test matches single handedly in Aus etc

    • @ottawanarayana
      @ottawanarayana 10 місяців тому

      Problem solver? They're cricketers not MBAs😂 Sky isn't suited to anything longer than slam bang cricket. Maybe like Rohit, his designated role in the ODI squad should have also been big bang no matter what the situation. The risk-reward would've email been high and probably worked in our favour

    • @AshishBagade-hv4el
      @AshishBagade-hv4el 10 місяців тому

      @@ottawanarayana when I said problem solver I meant CRICKET problem solver even in T20 if u ball slow ball bouncers in leg side he will fail…continuously …he is not a problem solver ….

  • @klano8443
    @klano8443 10 місяців тому +1

    When Australia use to get flogged by the west indies in the 80's and 90's where was there guts then .

  • @vocalhindu9069
    @vocalhindu9069 10 місяців тому

    ❤good show highly appreciated

  • @suumitsingh
    @suumitsingh 10 місяців тому +3

    Dhoni had big match players likes Gautam and Yuvraj and Raina and he backed them to the hilt

    • @TheCommonFan91
      @TheCommonFan91  10 місяців тому

      That was the strongest, rather the only strong lower middle order that India has ever had.

    • @rrao7963
      @rrao7963 10 місяців тому

      Steve Waugh 120 changed the dimension of Australian cricket they won five World cups two champions trophy one T20 one wtc in span of 24 years won four finals once semifinal what achievement only Eoin Morgan captaincy last World Cup they lost one sided yuvaraj innings reason they lost 2011 knock out he picket two wickets and until his innings they were still in that game Ricky ponting was not in his peak in that world cup still that match he scored a valiant hundred actually middle order batsmen India still could not fill the void after his retirement

  • @mananpuri04
    @mananpuri04 10 місяців тому +1

    Dil toot ta hai to awaz nahi aati

  • @mansurbrandy
    @mansurbrandy 10 місяців тому

    Best and better Team won ❤Jai Australia ❤

  • @fairytaleislame
    @fairytaleislame 10 місяців тому +1

    Pitch

    • @kosan2875
      @kosan2875 10 місяців тому

      What a sore loser mindset 😂

    • @mithrasrevisited4873
      @mithrasrevisited4873 10 місяців тому

      India selected it to advantage their spinners.

    • @mansurbrandy
      @mansurbrandy 10 місяців тому

      Backfired on India 😂

  • @gupto9857
    @gupto9857 10 місяців тому +5

    It's indian hindus lost not of cricket team ,modis lost
    This has to happen because Hindu always poop in comment section against muslim...

    • @prasannakovalam
      @prasannakovalam 10 місяців тому +1

      Hmmm if only the "Hindu" Indian team had members of other faiths who represent the tricolour without their faith being brought into question? If only we has the Tsar of Towlichoki, Mohd Siraj, or the Angel of Amroha, Mohd Shami....

    • @himanshupal6083
      @himanshupal6083 8 місяців тому

      😒🤡wtf

  • @AshishBagade-hv4el
    @AshishBagade-hv4el 10 місяців тому

    the positive beginning would be to get rid of rohit kohli shami because they have REPEATEDLY COLLECTED so much bad and loosing memories that its a bad thing now for youngsters...the bad memories have a tendency to spread and will create sadly new generation of defeatists...thats the last thing we want actually now....THEY SHOULD BE KEPT AWAY FROM YOUNGSTERS !!

    • @aviator9728
      @aviator9728 10 місяців тому

      😂 do you understand the cricket for real. Only experience players created player. Like Rohit Kohli.
      Kl also couldn't convert that innings to bigger innings
      Players other than Rohit Virat Shami bumrah rest new folks have chocked feared in terms of this final

    • @AshishBagade-hv4el
      @AshishBagade-hv4el 10 місяців тому

      @@aviator9728 yeah I am not saying Bumrah…But Rohit Kohli Shami that even after being senior gets jittery …chutiyapa …please understand youngsters ko kharab kar denge ye log I am telling you

    • @aviator9728
      @aviator9728 10 місяців тому

      @@AshishBagade-hv4el are Bhai brett lee ka UA-cam channel video dekh le kaise woh bat karte hai experience players ka team me hone ki importance ki aur experience share karne ki. Are Bhai agar ye senior na hote toh kabke nipat jati team India . Shubhman Iyer Surya siraj ka ye pehla world cup hai. Galtiya technical aur mental huyi hai hamse.
      First lack of intent by new players.
      KL playing too dot balls isase non Stricker ko pressure badhta hai
      Iyer ne age vala ball backfoot defence ke liye Jana technical mistake
      Shubhman ka backfoot short arm jab karte waqt pichla leg across Jana isase body lock ho jati hai open nai hoti
      Rohit ka intent acha tha lekin ball connect na hona yaa fir unnecessary risk Lena jab ki already 10 run a chuke the
      Shami ko naya ball Dena balki woh thodi old ball se ball karte hai.
      Pitch day me slow night me normal behave karna (Ashwin ka UA-cam channel dekho he explained reasons of Australia choosen to ball because of soil type)
      Bumrah ne sab se achi economic bowling ki hai tournament me but other end se shami ki jagah siraj ko dena tha jo ki jam other matches me karte rahe the .
      Hamara unnecessary wicket ke piche bhagna uski waje se first over 15 run 3 over 30 hua tha. Line length bigad gayi thi .
      Bahut sari mistakes hai hamare but hame batting ne jyada chot pohochahyi hai na ki bowling ne
      And bro Australia were spot on in their fielding.
      They uplift their game in knockouts. Irrespective of league matches
      Best team wo nai hoti Jo best ho.
      Best team wo hoto hai Jo us din performance de

    • @ritvikshekhar
      @ritvikshekhar 10 місяців тому

      @@aviator9728 Rohit played very well but his wicket was the turning point

    • @aviator9728
      @aviator9728 10 місяців тому

      @@ritvikshekhar that's what I said in my above comment that we already got 10 runs in that over we could have slowed down a bit and rotated strike but he went to capitalise and maximize benefit because soon powerplay was getting over. Idhar thoda selfish ho kar khelte toh aaj baat kuch aur hoti ya fir wo ball acha connect hota to bhi baat kuch aur hoti these hindsights won't matter now we lost we have to accept it but team performance was brilliant In tournament

  • @simoncavenagh964
    @simoncavenagh964 8 місяців тому +1

    The crowd was a revelation. It want a cricket crowd. It was a T20 crowd. Were any tickets sold to anyone other than Indians? Small pockets of yellow sure. But what a poor crowd once the wheels turned. Fat too parochial. And as for Narendra Modi’s disgraceful trophy presentation…enough said. By far the best of the six WC wins so far.

  • @klano8443
    @klano8443 10 місяців тому

    All Australia have is a cricket trophy India is the 4th largest economy in the world beat that Aussies.

    • @camlon2
      @camlon2 10 місяців тому +4

      You really thinks that's an achievement? GDP per capita is 24 times higher in Australia than India. Clearly, economics is not your strong point.

    • @klano8443
      @klano8443 10 місяців тому

      Obviously with 1.4 billion people who cares about gdp per capita , collective Australia's is what $1.5 trillion total india's is $3.8 trillion, thing is they manufacture for that unlike Australia digs it up , India has 4 car companies Plus agricultural machines industry ,Australia can't keep 1.They have a space program to reach the moon.There it industry is second to the US ,They are also a superpower. Without India's financial input into the game of cricket ?Cricket would have died decades ago .India should start limiting Australians playing in the ipl .

    • @camlon2
      @camlon2 10 місяців тому +1

      The 1.4 billion people in India should care about GDP per capita as it's one of the best measures of quality of life for the nations' inhabitants. @@klano8443

    • @rahatmahmud5435
      @rahatmahmud5435 10 місяців тому

      Bro Don't take cheap weeds 😂😂

    • @leftin74
      @leftin74 9 місяців тому

      If India is so great why are the best you have coming to live in Australia. My Doctor and optometrist are Indian. Ok there are a few who collect the shopping trolleys and run the 7 eleven franchises and drive the parcel delivery vans . But on the whole we only take the best you have. , and the third generation of Indian stock will grow up and play for Australia if they are good enough. So , all good

  • @commonsensemustprevail
    @commonsensemustprevail 10 місяців тому +1

    .

  • @varunshahvo-tv9854
    @varunshahvo-tv9854 10 місяців тому +1

    Im ashamed of india team

    • @TheCommonFan91
      @TheCommonFan91  10 місяців тому

      We are just sad, but we will still continue to support the Indian cricket team.

  • @andyistphdhpc2726
    @andyistphdhpc2726 10 місяців тому

    22:57 Rohit Sharma did win the T20 world cup in 2007

    • @TheCommonFan91
      @TheCommonFan91  10 місяців тому

      Right ! But he's not the Sharma that we remember from that World Cup :)

    • @andyistphdhpc2726
      @andyistphdhpc2726 10 місяців тому

      @@TheCommonFan91 But we do remember him. He scored a half century against hosts South Africa in a must win match for India