Why India Lost 2023 World Cup - Expert Analysis By Michael Vaughan
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In this episode of The Ranveer Show, we welcome Michael Vaughan. He is an English cricket commentator and former cricketer who captained the England cricket team from 2003 to 2008. He is considered one of England's most successful cricket captains, leading the team to their famous Ashes victory in 2005.
In today’s episode, we talked about the 2024 IPL and his opinions on Indian cricket players. We discussed his experience in covering the IPL, India x England rivalry, his leadership, IPL auctions, Sourav Ganguly’s team, Hardik Pandya, what’s going wrong with the Indian Cricket Team, is ODI cricket dead, Rohit Sharma, Sachin Tendulkar statue and much more.
This was a fun cricket conversation with Michael Vaughan. I had an amazing time having this conversation and I hope that you guys will have fun watching it. Do not forget to share your thoughts in the comments.
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I'm from India, play local cricket in Australia. It's the lowest grade I play, but the spirit local Australians have to win the game is incredible. They will pick arguments, they will challenge you in every aspect of the game, and they play fearless cricket, never seen them emotionally affected either win or loss. Its the state of mind that is different from Australia and India. If you pick a fight with them they come back harder, my fellow players from India get emotional when they pass any comment and it affects the game. I'm learning that mental strength from them. culturally we grew emotionally impacted by things, I will never give up the love, attachment and family values of my country but learning to balance my emotions.
The test series later this year will show you Indian team’s spirit to win
Right. Totally attest to this
@@Microice13 ICC events already proved. You live in "shall, will, of,but" . They live in reality
Australian just know how to win big tournaments. Indian players r mostly busy of making personal milestones. Personal milestones really doesn’t help India win big ICC trophies.
Overrated Sachin ODI Average: 44
KING BABAR ODI Average: 57
Jealous Indians can only cry. We produce 1000 Sachins in streets of Lahore Everyday.
Rohit Vadapav Crying Viral video is uploaded 👈👍💪
Absolutely agreed .....selfish branded players
Gambir won World Cup and KKR two times
Dhoni won World Cup and CSK five times
Yuvraj won worldcup and SRH one time
Rest of them completely overrated 😂
@@Umar_Akmal_PAK96Ekdum se waqt badal gaya jasbat badad Gaya jindagi badal gayi.😂😂😂
Also captain's who are inconsistent in big stages and thinking that 40 is a match winning contribution..comes with a poor planning on bowling 😅
@@arunvikrama when we play for a team all have role to play . The team decided that RO play aggressive, SG and VK carry and VK goes deep and others gets run . Your cricketing knowledge 😂😂😂
Australians play with their heads, we play with our hearts. They are focused on tactics while we are more into emotions.
So how we won in first encounter?
@@amityadavifyWe Indians choke in finals because of emotions.. very less people talk about it and also yes money has somewhat affected the playing style of Indian cricketers these days.
@@JamesEmmanuel007 on first point how can someone play without emotions? We are not robots ryt. For second point how money changed our batting? Like the same team batted in other matches leading to final. Then suddenly they realize ohh we are so rich so not bat in that way?. Can u answer that.
@@amityadavify emotions of losing previous Worldcup's,emotions of billion people wanting to win, emotions of expectations as cricket is most viewed sport in India so expectations increases with such amazing performance. being an athete i can say that instincts alone impact majorly on the situation irrespective of what skills you possess. the physiological thought also works how many we have won and how many Opponent have won in overall Worldcup finals which affects the emotions somewhere.
@@JamesEmmanuel007 ok so in that we can easily say that we won't win any final in icc events? As population would be increasing only. Or should we select nri players so they dnt feel emotional?
Agar pat Cummins indian hoga to 2-4 movie banjati😂
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After that Maxwell's 200 knock against Afganistan, Australian team playing is entirely different 😮
Afghanistan is mediocre team
@@JohnWickkkkkkkkk But still playing with leg cramps is not a joke, one small mistake will cost the World Cup
@@sumanthaddala6924 you’re right bro
Surya played his worst innings of his career in that final. India sorely missed Pandya. The moment he got injured against New Zealand, although we witnessed the best bowling performance in World Cup history by Shami, I had doubts that in crunch matches, India would crumble and would need someone as dependable as Pandya.
Tum Pakistanio ko sirf Surya hi dikhta hai.. baaki log kya g hilane ke liye the . What about kl Rahul?? He is the real culprit.. because of him we lost the world cup.. he put pressure on virat kohli and other batsmans including your "favourite'' SKY, jadeja..
@@atharvpathare No one is the culprit in this match. No one on the Indian side played a good knock. Although it is tough for us and it has been 6 months since the World Cup has been finished, still when I am reminded of the ODI World Cup 2023, my mind travels to that moment when we see the Aussies celebrating on TV, with tears in our eyes. Yet, we have to remember the amazing innings and historical feats achieved in this world cup. Yes, although India did not win the match, I can assure you, they won the hearts of people all across the world.
Ye Padya kab se dependable ban gaya?
@@rahulshinde6070 2017 ct final, 2022 t20 wc semi, and that great partnership with virat against pak, asia cup t20 against pakistan, asia cup partnership with ishan kishan against pakistan. in pressure situation he is the 2 nd most dependable batsman of india after kohli
Yes you can blame him for his attitude but Pandya is a proven big game player for both India and his franchise teams.
To basically summarise what he said.. India was good but Aussies were just better 🤷🏻♂
Overrated Sachin ODI Average: 44
KING BABAR ODI Average: 57
Jealous Indians can only cry. We produce 1000 Sachins in streets of Lahore Everyday.
Rohit Vadapav Crying Viral video is uploaded 👈👍💪
@@Umar_Akmal_PAK96 ok bro
@@jayramansuryanarayanan7608bro has 0 enemies
@@saivivekbhadragiri 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@Umar_Akmal_PAK96 ok ok okay thank you 🤣🤣
Surya killed the game that day. Kuldeep played better than him that final. Idk why ipl is the base format for Team selection.
Why Surya? You have to blame others also. Middle order struggled that day. KL also played very slowly . NO. 3 or NO. 4 is the best position for SKY. but those spots are blocked. Surya coming down the order is a total waste. Indian team should've realised that. SKY is a genuine high quality batsmen not a finisher. Indian team underutilized him. Even in the T20Is he comes early. In IPL at no. 3 . That's the difference
@@jayanthrajsb9185 no bro they are just haters of Surya.. andhbhakts.. they are fans of tuk tuk Rahul.. kl rahul is the real villian of Indian cricket .. he killed the game completely.. pur pressure on sky and kohli
It's management who killed surya. 4th or 5th match at Lucknow vs eng similar condition he scored 49 & then on beautiful batting pitches didn't have chance to bat for 5-6 matches. Management believed in iyer and rahul more than sky & it was not his kind of wicket. Jadeja was batting ahead of sky. Sky is good player of spin should have cm at 5. Sky>>>>>>iyer, rahul, jadeja.
@@humtobolenge3480but in a very important semi-final didn't Shreyas hit the fastest ever knock-out match century? So how could someone know he won't be performing great in the final?
@@Samudra121 on wankhede 🤡 why he could not score in pressure match like final then??
It's the toxic pressure. Every player knows if they don't perform, it won't be like "it's fine , it happens" . They'll get absolutely shredded. It's either BKL Rahul or KLassy Rahul. So , they're forced to play for themselves
Seriously , we haven't won any tournament in past 10 years 😭 !!
Exactly bkl tuktuk rahul ki vajah se haar gaye
Playing slowly is not an excuse for losing, labuschagne played slower than Rahul
@@devadathvarma4106 your cricket knowledge 🤡 labuschange played anchor because trevis head was going all guns.. Kohli is a designated anchor.. what about kl Rahul??
@@atharvpathare Playing slowly will never affect the result of a game, Cummins could score only 12 runs off 68 against Afghanistan, but still aus chased 291
It was a couple of factors that led to India losing the 2023 World Cup Final.
1. Before the match, Dravid and Rohit Sharma should have been firm about playing Ashwin instead of Siraj. Siraj had a good tournament, but his performance in the last couple of games leading up to the finals was not up to the par. Plus, Ashwin played at Ahmedabad in the 2011 World Cup quarter final vs Australia and got the wickets of Watson and Ponting. Also, Ashwin has always been a big match player and performs vs the Aussies. He also has a history of troubling the Aussie left-handed batsmen like Warner and Travis Head, and he'd have surely got Head out.
2. In game decision-making. When Rohit Sharma got India off to a flyer and we were around 75-2 in 8 overs, like Ponting said on commentary, this is where you don't just play your designated role of hitting, but you adapt since it's a special day (a final). Rohit hit Maxwell for a 6 and 4, and should have played safer shots for the next couple of overs since he was the only one of two players timing the ball well on that day (him and Head). His wicket swung the momentum in Australia's favor, because until then even if batting first wasn't the ideal option, Rohit was making it count and had the Aussies in a corner.
No 1 reason is Rahul Dravid..this guy still experiencing..... ready to loss next T20 wc if siraj ,pant ,Rahul , shreyas any of one is playing
@@rdff3231 true - he’s not a strategist with an attacking mentality that you need to win a limited overs World Cup. Not to forget he captained India’s worst World Cup performance in recent history - the 2007 WC. He’s what he is - a WALL
I agree with 2.
1 is crazy. You would head into a WC final with 3 spinners and 2 seamers? It was either Kuldeep or Ashwin. Ashwin over Kuldeep would've been the surprise that Australia wouldn't have expected.
@@bharath4353, jadeja is overrated. He never won India match by bat. He normally only scores when match is dead. His bowling is pathetic. He keeps his spot in the team all the time.
Ashwin performing against the Aussies is the real joke🤣🤣
Unpopular Opinion,
We missed Hardik Pandya that Day. He can Bat like a cheat code under pressure.
Right man ,,he is asset in pressure situation
He isnt same since he is captaining gujrat...he cant hit it like that anymore
Yes, I remember the T20 WC semiF match against England where due to Hardik's heroics India reached 168 otherwise even 150 looked difficult to achieve, such great bowling England were doing.
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@@atharvpatil0 forgot T20 world cup semifinal 😮
They tried to use the pitch advantage. Made it slow and rough af. Unfortunately, it backfired.
That pitch is not slow bro our batting in power play was gun, but our youngsters can't handle pressure they failed sudden wicket of gill and Iyyer crush KL he create unnecessary pressure in Kohli 😢
@@akhildas000 Pitch got baked in the afternoon. So it became increasingly difficult with passing overs. That's why Rohit was able to bash in the power play. The second innings was under the lights. So with no Sun, cooler temperatures and with dew, it became a road basically. It was still gripping though. But Rohit didn't keep any slips. India would have won if toss had favoured us.
@@NitinSingh-xr7ftExactly!! Hard Facts. On a flat track they could have easily won the match considering the magical form of Indian bowling.
@@akhildas000 kl Rahul is real villian.. he put pressure on kohli and other batters SKY and jadeja
@@NitinSingh-xr7ft we lost just because of timid approch from our batters.. Rohit gave India a blistering start.. but kl Rahul was playing for Australia.. put pressure on Kohli sky
I love it when Dada is always mentioned. The guy is in every1's mind even now. The greatest captain ive ever seen!!!
Why you are giving overbuild up to him, What did Ganguly achieved that much great.
Ganguly put power back in Indian team, in late 90s Indian team was rocked with scandals and were at low, under Ganguly’s captaincy we reached WC final in 2003, he made India one of the strongest team when everyone lost hope, It doesn’t matter if didn’t win anything, he was important in building team which was respected by opponents
@@Punkbars Did he made our team to win world cup, Just made our team better in Asia that's all that to Better than Pakistan. Cricket is played by some 8-10 countries, that it is played by backward Asian countries & in Australia, England, Newzealand & South Africa cricket is not at all a popular game, still we are giving preference to only cricket neglecting other sports we can't achieved that much great & you people giving over build up to cricketers giving overbuild as if he achieved like Ricky ponting.
@@HariKrishna-ix2in he wasn’t ricky ponting I know that, Ricky ponting is greatest captain Of all time, BTW I don’t even watch cricket anymore, but Ganguly should get his credit of building team in dark times, I too want India to have success in Football and other sports, since Football is a true global game, we need good athletes in other sports too
In such a disturbing world a man like ranvir hat's off man😊😊
Hardik Pandya was out of the squad in 2023 ODI World Cup was quite disappointing, same happened with Bumrah in T 20 World Cup 2022 , however those who were Criticizing over ability to play with white ball, must have got their answer when India reached finals of 2023 ODI World Cup
160 runs in last 40 overs cost us the match
20 tw Rahul khail gya
MV has an astute cricket mind. I really enjoyed his breakdown of the WC final. And I totally agree with him. India have an obscene amount of talent. They need to make it count for something by winning some more trophies 🏆.
*India's 2023 World Cup loss likely stemmed from a mix of factors. A pitch backfiring, middle-order batting struggles, and bowling limitations due to dew all played a role.BTW I THINK ROHIT IS ONE OF THE GREATEST CAPTAINS INDIA HAS EVER SEEN. THAT 10/10 WAS INSANE*
I think the main part of India's losing is the pitch.
I think the main part of India's losing is the pitch.
@@kishoredey0412greatest captain yet to win icc trophy 😂😂 and bottled home wc
Dhoni is greatest captain not vadapav
Exactly Dhoni is the GOAT ICC tournaments that India lost in the last 15 years and their captains -
T20 WC 2009 - Dhoni
CT 2009 - Dhoni
T20 WC 2010 - Dhoni
T20 WC 2012 - Dhoni
T20 WC 2014 - Dhoni
ODI WC 2015 - Dhoni
T20 WC 2016 - Dhoni
CT 2017 - Kohli
ODI WC 2019 - Kohli
T20 WC 2021 - Kohli
WTC 2019 - 21 - Kohli
T20 WC 2022 - Rohit
WTC 2021 -23 - Rohit
WC 23
So in the last 15 years India have lost total 14 ICC Trophies in which as Captain Dhoni has lost 7, Kohli - 4 and Rohit - 3.
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@@SRoy2700WTC wasn't in the fixture back then else we failed to qualify even for Finals under Dhoni's legacy. If anyone wants to argue then he/she can check the records how many matches (forget series) India has won under MSD in SENA countries
1:56 wtf Gambhir's description😂😂
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India is great in winning bilateral series, but Australia knows how to win ICC Tournaments
Watched all 8:41 of this video. Still waiting for the “expert”…
Just because a player looks like a million dollars on the naked eye, doesn't mean he can be your go-to clutch player. Shubman Gill, KL Rahul, SKY and Shreyas all look awesome on the eyes but we actually needed a Ishan Kishan for that left-right combination in the middle order. People who rated Gill above Ishan must remember his Asia Cup knock on a tough track against Pak. Him and hardik fought their way to a competitive score. Also, Gill was never in his peak fitness owing to the viral fever that he had before the start of the world cup. Management were very timid and had pressure of popular vote to include him despite his recent illness. They blindly rushed him to play way early. Kishan also established himself with a 200. I felt Kishan could have played a similar role to Gautam Gambhir at No.4 and Iyer, Rahul and Jadeja could have batted at 5,6 and 7 with Kuldeep, Shami, Bumrah and Siraj to follow. We could have batted way better even without Surya as Ishan would have provided great freedom to rest of the batters around him.
Honestly Indian players have poor fielding we have best batsman best bowlers but fielding sucks in an recent show of Kapil Sharma Rohit said sab aalsi murge hain 😢 which is very true Few names like Jadeja , Kohli , Rohit,Pandya are very good fielders but rest of the players don't slide in the field see Aussies they just go to do anything to get the catch forget about Travis head catch in World Cup yesterday's match Tim David took killer catch against RCB . We are not good at fielding we are lazy passionate. See the fitness levels of Australians even though I am big fan of Rohit I always love how Kohli has built himself like a run machine I respect him a lot see Hardik yaa yaa chapri by attitude but his fitness levels 🔥 his performance in knockouts will always be the moment for respect .
Finally someone pointing it out also Australian and other team bowlers like South African bowlers practice to bat well under pressure conditions but Indian players don’t do that they don’t practice too much for fielding and other things which are important aspect of the game even Australian bowlers know how to bat but Indian bowlers don’t know that!
It's really heartening to see that even people like Michael doesn't dare to say the fact that India didn't score boundry between 10 - 40 overs . When this has happened before . I do not remember . So please have the gut to say the truth .
That just shows fearfulness
Maybe it’s the pressure the public puts on them. If sports in India was more diversified like it is in other countries,we would probably win more high stakes games in cricket and win in other sports as well
Very good point broo
It's the toxic pressure. Every player knows if they don't perform, it won't be like "it's fine , it happens" . They'll get absolutely shredded. It's either BKL Rahul or KLassy Rahul. So , they're forced to play for themselves.
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Australians are all about team while Indians are more about personal milestone.
Australia strengthen their bowling and fielding with plans for every batsmen in knockout stages. Batting remains same and dependent on individuals but while fielding and bowling they come up with unique plans and mindset.
The reason Pat cummins came up with top notch plan while indian captain literally had no plans..he just thought scoring another 40 would make us win without even accesing the pitch..he told ind would have batted first on that pitch is a biggest 🤡 moment...
Later when bowling , no opening spell to siraj , shamil was given opening spell..
After 10 overs no mix of pace spinner... straight away spinners at both ends. Worst fielding placement etc etc ..
Yeah the only way we could win was by taking wickets but there was no slip for the main bowler kuldeep
Captionship of Rohit in finals cost us the world cup I think aa well as the pitch creater...
@@AdityaSharma-ei3ur toss was a crucial factor too. Remember against pakistan on a similar wicket we could restrict them just like how australia restricted us. And late november dew made it very easy for batting in the second innings
@@saivivekbhadragiri yes that's also a factor but bhaai toss is not in our hand but other 2 factors are in our hand like pitch creation and captionship
Rohit was merely bluffing. Could literally see it on his face. He knew he lost a crucial toss
Still think Surya should have come at 4 to keep the momentum going. But again Shreyas was in good form as well so maybe it just looks better in hindsight.
The biggest reason for the loss was trying to doctor the pitch. If the pitch had played slow as well in the evening we would have won, but dew came and it just played like a flat track.
If the pitch had been a flat one to begin with, maybe we would have won easily.
Or maybe it was just the panauti of that stadium :p.
Australia have the no fear factor and a bit of mind
Exactly hardik was important for that day.. hope people Stop hating him
Rohit Sharma ke Raja
He would've played with a better strike rate than these tuk tukiyas like Rahul and SKY.
That's why people are hating him. Why does he get injured so often when playing for India?? Why not during IPL? A team can't depend on a single player who is so fragile anyways
@@karansingh248 well said bro
@@karansingh248 dear injury is not in hand..k l Rahul was injured people hated him...bumrah was injured she came back like lion so was rishabh pant...noone wants be injured n miss imp tournament....
Exactly 💯 , it is easy to reach finals but it's very hard to win it 🔥
We played the whole tournament amazingly and we are proud of it, its just that Australians outplayed us. They know how to change the equation to win big games.
Why lost wc -> always internal politics
Australia doesn't have the pressure like India, Indians are so passionate about cricket, the pressure is immense.
Imagine if we would have won the world cup the streets would be flooded with fans.
Australia won the world cup and there were not even 5k people who came to receive the Australian team at the Airport.
So the pressure was immense and we scummed to the pressure in the final.
Australia wasn't a better side than India, no chance!
Lost bcoz aging, big match chokers like Rohit Virat Jaddu are stuck on playing forever rather than moving out. Be prepared for another wc defeat in June.
To summarize, Australia played (plays) fearless cricket, India didn't.
Indian players are too busy impressing Bollywood while Australians plays Smart cricket
Kohli being the key batsman in the Indian didn't take on bowlers after SKY got out. He slowed down the run rate, gave Aussies the upper hand and got out eventually. I would tell Kohli to watch how Arvinda de Silva played in 1996 semi final against India. I think Kohli couldn't handle the pressure, was afraid of getting out.
Its so sad to see the Anchor not praising how good Australia played. He almost choked and then switched the conversation instead of agreeing how good Aussie mentality is.
India will win tournaments when they realize that Dhoni was their last legend. The current crop has no legends what-so-ever. They can be legends after they with a CWC champion.
Also, I think Modi shouldn't have tried to use the final as his campaign. Him running away from the stage killed the handing-trophy ceremony. The worst part was the quiet Indian spectators boo'ed the English umpire.
Beside Hardik, we badly, badly missed Rishabh Pant that day... KL Rahul played the most subdued, lackluster, lukewarm innings in the history of Cricket that day... I personally believe that Rishabh Pant and KL Rahul are exactly opposite to each other... Pant rises to the occasion and KL Rahul boggs down under pressure... It is unfair to blame Jadeja and Surya too... They never got to bat more than 6 or 7 overs in any of the matches... Expecting them to manage almost 16 overs between them, was too much to ask... Hardik was injured middle of the tournament but had he and Rishabh Pant been there, Surya and Rahul would have sat out and we would have had better chance of winning...
Agreed 💯 kl Rahul is suitable for test cricket.. and sky is the top order batsman.. it backfired us
No doubt Pat Cummins did fantastic captaincy and he got the price. In the final Maxwell tricked rohit by getting hit 6 and 4 and then googly to invite for a shot and got the price. Rohit should have realised its big match and with Kohli on other side you can imagine how much pressure any opposition would have knowing world's two best batsman are on crease, He should have attacked whenever he wanted rather than continuous attack. With Gill gifting his wicket Rohit should have planned to stay at least till 20th over or 25th to frustrate Aussies. with 3 wickets down in less than 15 overs it was huge pressure on Virat and KL. Pat used his part time bowlers to cover up 5th bowling option, head, marsh and Maxwell covered 10 overs when india was right under pressure between 11 to 20 overs.
KL and Virat should have tried to maintain rr of 6 without risk till 20th overs. But we know without risk there is no reward, they should have taken calculated risks to release pressure and put it back on opposition. a boundary in 2 overs could have turned momentum back to india with 1 lakh supporters in stadium. Surya had best opportunity in life but playing under pressure is not cup of tea. 240 was still a good total to fight and with 41-3 we all thought we can make it. But here rohit went defensive rather than attacking and not putting more pressure by not giving slips to Kuldeep and allowed easy singles. it was a test match situation for sure.
We missed Pandya in both innings Virat and KL could have played with less pressure knowing experienced Pandya is yet to come. HP can take wickets any time with his smart bowling. Having HP in team would have allowed to play another bowler maybe Ashwin who can bat too.
Asked Jadeja to come before surya also added more pressure on Jadeja.
rohit asked shami to open with bumnrah was unusual change that puts more pressure on shami and gives less confidence to Siraj. so literally 4 bowlers were put under pressure to defend 240 runs in a final match. Rohit was under pressure and he made some wrong decisions for sure. Only if hardik Pandya was in squad things could have been a bit different at least it wouldn't have been one sided match.
I wanted to see Rohit and Virat lifting trophy on 19th November and wanted to dance on streets but anyways...
This was the same guy who tweeted "Told ya! India is going to lose 6-0" after we were bundled out for 36. What we did in the coming 2 tests says it all about our strength and persistence. Secondly, after the third Aussie wicket feel in that final, the Indian commentators kept saying "shant raho shant raho". But our players (along with the 1 lakh audience) went bizarre with emotions. This is where we lost the match.
How a team management leaves a world class offspinner on a slow track against heavy left handed side team and a bowler who has most success against left handed. When India takes brave decisions then only we win ICC trophies like Cummins decided to bowl first and chase a target in final
Australia is Real Madrid of cricket
Michael Vaughan did not win ICC Trophy for England, he choked as captain in 2004 Champions Trophy against West Indies then why is he criticising India for not winning ICC Trophies since 2013
Icc trophies don't define players. He has won the ashes trophy and right now in the Guru position. He has rights to criticise.
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He is the England Captain to win Ashes after 18 years. He was a good Test Cricketer but he was a Mediocre ODI Cricketer and flopped in many ICC Tournaments for England.
He is giving an opinion as asked by ranveer
Your reply is the best reason why we Indians didnt win any trophies. Know why? Because we criticize the feedbackers. The day we focus on feedbacks we will start winning.. Understand!
@@naveenmallampati3294Pakistanis are not allowed to comment
Yeah we really miss hardik at that day. 😢
Hardik in knockout ❤
If there would have been hardik then also Australia would have won
@@lifetimeeducation3739 nope we just wanna 1 wicket, head at that time, may be ig we won.
@@Enchanted_To_You keep making excuses it's your choice 👍👍
@@lifetimeeducation3739 if you work on your excuses you definitely succeed in your life. 😼
You can take all the individual stats home Babar and Kohli, T.Head is taking home the trophies
Pitch and venue selection was abysmal for the final. Let’s start there
Australian are not dependent other players and India depend rohit and kohli so two man never win world cup
Winning a final always require a different ingredients and recipe…Aus knows it better and I keep seeing Rohit after India lost we followed the same what we done throughout the game and he forgot it’s final ..he don’t had any plan B and just wanted to put bigger scope in the board forgetting all the other other factors wind, pitch etc etc that’s where it hurt more ..Ausiee knows Indian team better than Rohit and they tired and it worked. I personally feel is MSD would have been captain he will have plan B and C too. Rohit had no plan B except getting big score.
That is the only way bro,you have to score big
How can he say that a Champions Trophy is not a trophy? Oh Yea, the Dhoni Fielding Miracle of 2013 must pinch him really hard, and Hafeez lifting it in 2017 must be even harder. poor Mike...
Throughout the world cup on batting wickets we went slam bang from first over and then our bowlers came and bowled their heart out. On the finals, they prepared a slow wicket and fell for their own trap and struggled to score on that pitch. That's why we lost. Michael Vaughan didn't want to mention the pitch
Hardik has to go a long way to get even close to ranks of any greats we had.. Also apart from MCG knock, he has not justified his presence in Indian cricket.Its time he has to prove his presence not only in Indian cricket but in world cricket.
As someone who’s watched and supported a high performing team for 25 years, that does everything right except get past the final hurdle, I can completely vouch for Vaughan’s statement on mentality. Big games are all about tactics. No room for emotions. Emotions lead to bad decision making. Weigh the situation in practical depth and weigh your options against that.
Ultimately India got the tactics wrong while Australia got it right. It’s their mentality to ‘get the job done’ coupled with getting their tactics spot on is why they ended up as champions.
What about kl Rahul?? He is the real culprit.. because of him we lost the world cup.. he put pressure on virat kohli and other batsmans including your "favourite'' SKY, jadeja..
India couldn't even play 50 overs😢
@@rajatsharma6544tho 50 overs khelke medal jeeta ya?? Ya trophy??
Hmm vs Australia at Chepauk in Chennai kisne jitaya only game in wc india struggled
That struggle was beautifully covered by media no one talked about the challenges we faced that day our top order collapsed like 2019 semifinal @@atifsiddiqui9826
He is the reason india was able to reach that target.
Keep playing politics and sitting people like Ashwin in the finals……
Our players still think scrambling for a 2nd when there is only one and getting 2 runs is what wins games.. Thats the way to play in unplayable wickets. Not in subcontinent.. Throughout the tournament, that's how the middle order played..with fear..Aussies went for it in the final instead of being fearful. Better team they were
Australia is always the main boss who spoils everything 😂
Most of Indians already knew what was going to happen in that final against Australia, it’s just the heart wasn’t ready to accept and was hoping for magic, which ofcourse didn’t happen :)
Sad but was a hard truth to swallow!
We needed 270+ target in the world cup final.And we need to take all catches.I still remember first ball from Bumrah to David Warner went between the slips and that over went for 16.Australia reduced India to 3 down for almost nothing in our first match.Thats the contrast.Gill clearly post Dengue was not fully fit by his own admission.They should have rested him mid tournament which might have kept his hunger going as well
Australia played brilliant in finals even if India scored 300 runs Australia would have chased it 😂
Aussie have the special gens man its just iintheritted with their culture they dont give up and have that extra ability to pull it up when its require the most no matter what coach you hired or what techinque you got they have that x factor may be it came through the hardship when they landed in 1788 as a conbvict from britain i have watched cricket for 25 years only two things stand out for me as a indian fan one is never right of aussie specially in big games and second never put your money on ind cricket team when its come to big final history is proof. They will keepp playing ipl international playe will come cheer up for india culture and will make mondey learn the indian condition and go back and india cricket will be the same way as always they will win bilateral series or test at home but but any final will be the same case for india except few.I gave up watching cricket after wc 24.
You are really a smart man
No hate against Rohit but if Kohli would have been the captain the whole comment section would look much different everyone would have blame kohli I'm not saying that now everyone should blame rohit obviously its a team play but ppl have shown hatred towards Virat on a whole different level even in semis '19 ppl blame kohli nd his captaincy ... I know you all gonna hate me for this but In my opinion Rohit Sharma is the most protected cricket I have ever come across why was there a need of a bigj shot against maxwell when you had already score few a runs in that over and ppl are actually showing sympathy which is goof but where was there sympathy when kohli's team lost semis in 2019 ... I would really appropriate if anyone tries to counter me nd I respectfully need to know others opinion too
It was bcoz of chopping n changing, bringing 3d player, removing rayadu, bringing mayank Aggarwal and asking Rahul to open. That uncertainty was the problem people blame, not exactly Kohli n captaincy.
100% agree
I didn't see any hated comments against Kohli in that 19 wc
It id so true and that is always my opinion, we missed Hardik in finals. and we need hardik or hardik like to win tournaments
Even pant too. Maybe pant in place of sky would’ve made a lot of difference to the whole tourmament
@@saivivekbhadragiri agree sky is top order batsman.. they played him at no. 7 .. pant/ rinku was great choice for odi
Wish Rinku Singh was in place of Surya and Pant (but he was injured) in place of KL. Even Gil was horrible in final - he played like he wanted to get out until he did manage to get out. Maybe replacing Kishan with Gil in playing 11 was a horrible decision, and it proved as a bad decision for India in the final.
Phata track champion humilited in front of own 132000 crowd...sight to watch😂😂😂😂
Let's actually go batsman by batsman. The only player we can say “choked” is Shubman Gill, he got out playing a needlessly risky pull shot. The look on Rohit’s face standing on the other end said it all. And yeah, SKY just looked lost the whole time. But all the ODI big guns got out in the most unfortunate of ways or in manners they could not do anything about:
1. Shubman Gill - fine, choked
2. Rohit - thought he had cleared the infielder and 99% of the time he would have been correct
3. Kohli - seemed to have successfully defended with the middle of his bat, but almost a freak play, the ball finds its way onto the stumps
4. Shreyas - gets out to the thinnest of edges the third ball he faces
5. KL Rahul - similar as Shreyas. Swinging delivery that takes a thin edge. The commentator actually said at the moment “a batsman of lesser caliber would have completely missed the ball” due to the movement! But KL Rahul was able to make enough adjustment just to get a thin edge, nothing he could do about it, the definition of “unlucky”
6. Jadeja - again similar to Shreyas and KL, a reverse swinging delivery that takes a thin edge
So here’s the top 6 batsment. Other than Shubman, no one choked. KL and Kolhi had to rebuild. Why did we lose? It was written in the heavens that it would be so.
Absolutely ranveer nailed about hardik
Indian team choked or not is debatable.
But it was a terrible terrible pitch for a world cup final.
Bcci and the Ahmedabad pitch
Lost us the final.
Not so much .
Hardik was extremely crucial for the finals - I was scared the whole tournament as he got injured. WE DO NOT HAVE A GOOD ALL ROUNDER! Fing 5 bowlers and 5 batsmen is a big pressure on top of the order. it cannot work. India needs to develop better all rounders. Remember YUVI. thats what we need.
The another reason we lost world cup cause we dont support whole efforts of team we create a virus in team called favouritism on contrary Australians work as whole team thier supporters promotes team spirit instead of doing fan war beacuse this kinda of things eventually effect players performance 🤷♀️
Then how come we lost world cups before 2007 also,, was there still fan clubs, social media and other stuff
@@amityadavify he is right broo
@@jr.vlogger but before 2007 we never had this situation of fan war and all,, still we never won world Cup apart from 1983
A lot of people stopped watching cricket after that final
India played the same xi almost throughout the tournament. They needed to try a left hander instead of Gill. And had Ashwin in the xi for the final.
Vaughan is right. Aussies devised the way to get rid if Rohit. Or India would have scored 320.
Champions trophy is not really a trophy… is real and true 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👌👌
The thing about Indian cricket team is that they celebrate normal one day series whereas Australia treats one day series like practice match.
But when it’s a World Cup Australia,NZ and England play to win. And they r serious with it
New Zealand and England??they have way less trophies than India 😂😂even Argentina went trophiless for so many years in football but they came back
@@rupom8875 but they have better performance than India in world cup in the last 10 years. Don’t look at 100 years of cricket history
@@stockbro1997 in 2011,15,19 they didn't qualified for semies,same with T20 and you are saying they performed better 😂😂😂
simple shamo was never ment to be bowled with that new ball
6:21 why doesn't this 🍻 guy talk about the alternate case of sanju samson. He has also been denied opportunity due to geography.😎
They prepared a shit tip of a pitch to squeeze Australias batting, but Pat Cummins called their bluff at the toss. After losing 3 wickets, Kohli and Rahul didn't have the nerve or courage to take the game on and batted them into a hole. Winning teams don't do this
India only have themselves to blame.
We are becoming PSG of cricket 😢
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I think India needs match-winning middle order batsmen like Dhoni and Yuvi. Unfortunately, two of them: Pant and Pandya, who could've taken the heat back to the opposition, were missing. Once we lost Rohit and Kohli earlier than expected, India crumbled. This has been the story since 2013, more or less.
When did this match happened i never remeber it happened...
Indian team shat itself in the finals... everyone single player failed and performed horribly... it was shameful to watch !
so glad aus beat ind. everything was set up against them, they were for the first time, underdogs. the pitch debacle and manipulation is what cost india actually. Should’ve just left it.
Well toss was the main factor
Net net what Vaughan meant was India are the new Chokers in cricket.
No Micheal Vaughan Sir! With due respect I must say, I differ with your opinion about India weren't scared on that day.
Hell India were scared! And the saying that Indian team management thought that, the score of 240 ODD in a final that too in a dew ridden Ahmadabad is a total bull. The thing is, India were scared in their approach, is evident in many ways (esp during batting).
1) India didn't had any plan B for Pat Cummins masterplan.
2) They insisted Curator to prepare a pitch (and whoever differs to me on this I have an open invitation for debate) which will curb out Australia's batters, but unfortunately this ploy landed differently for India.
3) KL hitting only one boundary and that too against Maxwell.
4) Sending Jadeja over SKY wgo was playing as designated batter in XI. If they didnt had any trust in SKY why did they even picked him in Squad, forget about XI. They could have romp another allrounder in place of SKY as like for like replacement for Hardik Pandya.
5) Giving the new ball to Shami, when its a known fact that, Shami was more lethal throughout WC with a slightly old ball (coming in 7th or 8th over of innings). Also as they didn't gave Siraj the New ball, which simply make him ineffective as Siraj was only effective in WC during initial overs. And considering spinners got ineffective coz of dew India were playing effectively with two bowlers (Bumrah and Shami).
Exactly brother ,talent wise i feel indian player are much more talneted and polished but they are scared in knockouts
After 100-3 of we have continued to attcaked eithwr w have scored 290 pr 190
But we would have lost even on 190 and 240 but if we would have gone for 290 then we may have wo.
@@mandakinijha1116 Micheal Vaughan did draw an interesting comparison of this team with the one which Sourav Ganguly made and nurtured and protected like a guardian angel and MSD took to another level by winning WC with it. Vaughan with his tongue in cheek style said that the group which was led by MSD/Ganguly played much better collectively as group than the current lot. Even if we step aside talent levels of players and try to draw comparisons between both teams purely on enthusiasm, fighting spirit and most importantly will to sacrifice oneself for country, then I must say the team under Ganguly/Dhoni were way ahead than this Indian team. This (current) Indian team I believe is not a family, but more of a collection of individual superstars with inflated egos. Not to forget their blind fans, who support them in their all deeds. There is no passion, emotion and an indomitable will to achieve something for the country or to put oneself on the line for the country (just like what Gambhir and Yuvraj Singh did). Well certainly I'm not talking about everyone in this current lot, and certainly many like Shami and Bumrah made us proud with their performance in this WC by putting themselves in the firing line. Ironically speaking these guys don't even have a decent fanbase either way. 😉😉
I'm talking about big names, who takes leave from national duties for their personal duties. I'm talking about a "self proclaimed Prince" who was piling up runs before this game, and when the team needed him most he faltered big time. And certainly I'm talking about two "celebrity cricketers (for their performance in Koffee with Karan)😏" who tend to remain outside from team most of the time in a year, and quite surprisingly return back to the team just before WC or any other major trophy. One of them took his name off from WC just because of a minor injury, but the same guy watched the SF of WC with full pomp and shore. Why wasn't he in the NCA for a speedy recovery for the team? And another guy is just a curious case. Remember how Ishan Kishan wasn't included into the national squad citing some weird reasons that he didn't inform the management, that he didn't play any Ranji Game etc etc. Whereas we all know, not only team management included him in the squad for the Asia Cup (even when NCA didn't confirm whether he was fully fit or not). Leave alone this also, not only was included in the squad, but also made arrangements to include in XI also even for the cost of a regular WK batter. And the management hadn't stopped there. They now took their blunders far far above by selecting the same guy as the first choice WK-Batter for the South Africa Tour. I just don't know what's this whole lot of obsession with the guy who performs once in a blue moon. I don't know, for how long we keep him in the squad just because of his "Utopian immense talent".
Let me just give you a scenario, imagine instead of Yuvraj Singh and Suresh Raina HP and KL were there in the quarter final game against Australia back in 2011 chasing 260 odds with 4/5 wickets down and only bowler and Yusuf Pathan to follow. Had they been able to win us that game? Just imagine..... 😏😅
@@Ashutosh-lw3cn Kl is still a decent odi and test player but Raina and yuvi were just special
Same I am expecting from rinku and jaiswal,these both lad looks determined whenever they step on field
But this world Cup ,I will still forgive them but they way except Virat and bumrah they wasted 21 and 22 T20 World Cup
They were playing outdated cricket
I still believe Indian team in test and odi is excellent,only thing to add is collective effort and calm head in knockouts
But In T20 ,this will most probably last dance of Rohit Virat
We need to change our old style method of playing slow in 15 over and leaving too much to do for finishers in last 5
Rohit has been awful in t20 world Cup
@@mandakinijha1116 Believe me or not, KL Rahul is not a trust worthy player esp when there is a big match situation and everyone is expecting from him. His history tells the same old story against him. So if you ask me, there is no point in having him in White ball squad at all. And btw it's not like we don't have a choice. We have the likes of Rinku, Pant, Tilak Verma, and many more. And btw, how come Bumrah Wasted the 2022 T20 WC. He wasn't even playing that time. And btw if we are so heavily dependent on a single bowler then I believe we are repeating the same mistake of individual brilliance, which can win you matches but not tournaments.
As for Virat Kohli, I have a question mark on him too. At times it appears that, he prioritizes himself/family more than the country esp when there is desperate times. Whether leaving the team for his first child's birth after the distraught in first test against Australia back in 2020-21, leaving captaincy so late (in 2021) and hence making sure that Rohit Sharma don't get the time to make the team for bigger projects like ODI WC 2023. And even in the forgone test series vs England he again took leave due to the birth of his second child.
See I'm not against Virat as a player or even dare to question his hunger and will to perform greatly for the team. It's just sometimes it appears that, instead of being a leader he sometimes acts more like a "Boss" who thinks that everything originates from me and ends with me. At times he appears to be more of a self centered person rather than a team man esp when it comes to serious decisions. I hope you get what I mean.....
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I just can’t revisit 19th Nov man. Too traumatic.
how dare he say 2013 champions trophy win was not a actual victory? It is perhaps the most dominant India has ever been and that in England. We had it all -_-
Final match was taken for granted... Australian's grab the opportunity.
If you insult me then you deserve my respect...This men keeps insulting our country cricketer every day and today we are taking his opinion to know about the cricket of our country....That is why we have become slaves. We have become used to insulting....good good
He never insults , he just shows us the mirror that:
1.) Richest board whose main focus is on IPL to earn money 🤑
2.) Our cricketers are treated like god , we do favouritism etc
3.) Trophyless since 2013 ( a decade ago 😮 )
Still we are defending us,
Indians play for records and Australians play for trophies, I do not see any Indian player sacrifice their IPL when it comes to national duty and whereas australians opt out of BBL and other leagues and give importance to national team and most of the Australians do not get injured when it comes to playing major tournaments. During England test series Virat took break for personal reasons but the same Virat will skip any one IPL season , I dont think so . We are more concerned about PR , image , fame , endorsements etc , even BCCI has to be blamed as they know Virat not playing will lose eyeballs of IPL . I know People will criticise me but its a fact .
Shreyas sacrificed last year ipl for 2023 world cup
@@deebhai6540 he did not play IPL due to injury i guess back spasm
Ok,, so how we won all matches till final so comprehensively,, almost one sided? Where was IPL logic then?
I know we indians judge on everything,, but why we lack common sense sometimes and link different things to look smart.. India lost because virat took breake from some series and played full IPL? Does it even make sense
@@amityadavify so please tell why do we lose all matches in finals , nothing changed since 2013 , we go to finals and dont cross the final barrier . It is not a question of judging players it a about their priorities . Example in 2022 during england tour we had a great chance of winning test series but last fifth test match was not played due to covid scare and immediately after the series there was IPL when ECB assured all safety measures we went to play the fifth test match later and lost the match and drew the series . The fifth test match was not postponed due to IPL schedule and players wanted to be a part of it . When India win players take all the accolades and when these lose why cant they accept the truth and facts . Please check since 2013 till now we have not won a single ICC trophy inspite of being the richest crocket board having all the resources, talent , money , infrastructure etc everything yet we dont win anything. Not even the players even the administrators have to be blamed how they are handling these issues .
@@777sampathbro Even Argentina went trophiless for so many years in football
Actually he missed out one thing that's fielding ...main difference was fielding that made the difference of 40 runs...😅
Score big runs in big matches and more often than not you will end up on the Winning side. Australians always scores big runs in Knockout stages. 50-60 runs will never big matches.
We lost cause we were oversmart the pitch favored the slow low bowlers and we were not good in this environment, for India a true wicket with true bounce would have helped us win
Many have commented a lot on this interview and why India lost on 19th Nov but apart from Vaughan none other address the key point. We haven't won any trophies since 2011(2013 was a fluke) because no captain/Coach was able to build a collective team which dada had given to Dhoni, MSD/Kohli/Rohit has given you individuals but not a team
Msd gave us 3 ICC trophies 🤫
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Australia team not a cricket oriented nation they have different sports if they go through negative phase they they don't care at all
Michael Vaughn did not explain why India lost. He did explain why Australians, in general win.
Lack of a good left arm bowler who could have got Travis head and maxwell out. They should have played in khaleel Ahmed instead of siraj. Only reason had was played because of ipl politics as he was in rcb
India need aussie coach to win a world cup. Finals are always a mental game. Indians take too much mental stress and cant perform. We need external coaches to win the world. Like Gary Kirsten in 2011.