Why You Probably Shouldn’t Use Zelle

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    Over the past couple of years, Zelle has exploded in popularity. Virtually everyone has heard of it and many have even ditched PayPal and Venmo. While this may be surprising at first glance, when you consider the advantages of Zelle such as instant transfers, direct integration with bank accounts, and no fees, it’s no wonder why it’s so popular. But, like all things, there is one caveat to this service. While the service itself is exceptional, the reason that it’s so fast and cheap is that its from the big banks themselves. Historically, big banks have abused their trust over and over again even leading to disasters like the 2008 financial recession. And, the big banks gaining control over the p2p payment market will just further increase their power over our financial lives. So, while Zelle itself is a great service, its popularity may not be the best thing for society. This video explains the story of how Zelle was created, why it’s so popular, and the dark truth about the service.
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    0:00 - The Rise Of Zelle
    1:20 - Early Failure
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 378

  • @MrAngenos
    @MrAngenos Рік тому +296

    At least Zelle isn’t trying to charge me $2500 for my different opinion

    • @LogicallyAnswered
      @LogicallyAnswered  Рік тому +27

      Hahaha

    • @rightwingsafetysquad9872
      @rightwingsafetysquad9872 Рік тому +24

      No, but Chase is canceling people's accounts and changing a $500 fee to send the remaining balance. The good news is Zelle works with local credit unions.

    • @Jeez001
      @Jeez001 Рік тому

      Zelle is a nightmare so many people especially older folks are falling for scams via Zelle and Zelle doesn’t do a damn thing.
      Smalller banks are bullied into using Zelle by big banks which own a stake so don’t care about cost of implementing or losses from fraud.

    • @renownedfear187
      @renownedfear187 Рік тому

    • @thequantaleaper
      @thequantaleaper Рік тому +1

      Wait, what?

  • @mradamdsmith
    @mradamdsmith Рік тому +153

    I run a small business and take PayPal payments. Unfortunately, PayPal will also hold payments until you have more history, leading to the money being tied up longer. And then there are fees on top of that. Zelle just moves the money and that's the end of it. Much, much better.

    • @randomstuff-qu7sh
      @randomstuff-qu7sh Рік тому +5

      Another downside of PayPal, unless they've changed it, is if the customer returns a product for a refund, the business doesn't get the fee PayPal charged back.

    • @zionismisterrorism8716
      @zionismisterrorism8716 Рік тому +1

      Paypal can freeze your account for misinformation too.

    • @BigEightiesNewWave
      @BigEightiesNewWave Рік тому +2

      B of A Zelle users just LOST THEIR MONEY!

    • @randygraham926
      @randygraham926 Рік тому +1

      I agree with your comments regarding PayPal -- have not tried Zelle.

  • @pavelkoudelka8934
    @pavelkoudelka8934 Рік тому +294

    This always surprises me. In the Czech Republic, we have had instant payments between most banks for years, and banks that do not participate in this system usually transfer funds on the next business day. For example, I always have to laugh if I hear about using checks in America TODAY, for example. In our country, they are practically no longer accepted by banks, and no one has been using them for decades.

    • @valentinmoeller
      @valentinmoeller Рік тому +20

      Yeah. Europe rocks in this way. I love this too!

    • @Parciwal_Gaming
      @Parciwal_Gaming Рік тому +18

      Even GERMANY the champion of cash an technosceptezism in Europe has phased out checks

    • @bdev5988
      @bdev5988 Рік тому +15

      Yeah US regulations screws financial tech innovation. I tried to create FinTech startup in the US and it was horrible. So much regulation that nothing actually new could be created

    • @Srivishnu_S
      @Srivishnu_S Рік тому +16

      India has UPI,
      Which is even more cool!
      Seems america is still growing in it's transactional trajectory!😂🤣

    • @funmilayotijani3119
      @funmilayotijani3119 Рік тому +18

      Same in Nigeria. We have a central bank management system that handles all bank to bank transactions so transfers are automatic.
      Imagine my shock when I heard the almighty America didn't have that. 😲
      We can also top up our airtime from our bank apps and pay for most utilities

  • @caladonius5132
    @caladonius5132 Рік тому +175

    My last Landlord used Zelle. He found it very convenient with his tenants and other small business, like plumbers and such. No fees that I remember him speaking of and payments were instantly credited to the correct accounts. Also, Credit Unions use the network. Because mine does. That's all that I know about Zelle.

    • @lucasrem
      @lucasrem Рік тому

      He is not US, he is not understanding ....
      Google = online freaks !

    • @codelessunlimited7701
      @codelessunlimited7701 Рік тому +7

      That's kinda like pretty dangerous of him using Zelle.

    • @fuckthisksksjjksdfjd
      @fuckthisksksjjksdfjd Рік тому +8

      Dangerous how?

    • @carthellkelly1599
      @carthellkelly1599 Рік тому

      @@fuckthisksksjjksdfjd No dispute process if a service provider doesn't do what they're supposed to; no protection against fraudsters. Once the money goes to the other party, it is effectively gone.

    • @MaxPower-11
      @MaxPower-11 Рік тому +10

      As long as you know who you are dealing with on the other side of the transaction, Zelle is fine to use.

  • @thetimebinder
    @thetimebinder Рік тому +174

    Can you imagine the dystopian nightmare of banks creating cards that let you pay merchant instantly directly from your bank account? Crazy.

    • @elymanic3497
      @elymanic3497 Рік тому +24

      Like a Debit Card?

    • @LogicallyAnswered
      @LogicallyAnswered  Рік тому +53

      Debit cards still go though visa or MasterCard usually

    • @Apurvanotfound
      @Apurvanotfound Рік тому +7

      Yeah there is UPI in india

    • @yuvrajprashar
      @yuvrajprashar Рік тому +1

      That's exactly what UPI do in India 🇮🇳

    • @yuvrajprashar
      @yuvrajprashar Рік тому

      @@LogicallyAnsweredthere's upi too in India . You should definitely make a video on it

  • @jadengrant
    @jadengrant Рік тому +60

    This video didn't make me think Zelle is bad, and I use it fairly frequently; it's an outstanding service as well, so I need to know what you are on about.

  • @sweytank
    @sweytank Рік тому +74

    Imo, India's UPI still stands out of any payment method. It would be wonderful if you cover it as its way ahead of Zelle or PayPal.

  • @sustain6084
    @sustain6084 Рік тому +12

    Meanwhile UPI: You guys still charge transfer fees, That's ridiculous

    • @MaxPower-11
      @MaxPower-11 Рік тому

      There are no transfers fees with Zelle.

  • @Absol407
    @Absol407 Рік тому +15

    In Venezuela Zelle is actually used and accepted almost everywhere, something like 95% of places accept it in one way or another. We basically adopt anything that allows us not to use our native currency.

  • @riteshyejju9509
    @riteshyejju9509 Рік тому +25

    I really like zelle but UPI in India is my favorite, it works great. UPI changed lives of millions of people. I think eRupee will be revolutionary in terms of transactions/payments. Excited to see how it will work out.

    • @blah2blah65
      @blah2blah65 Рік тому

      "eRupee" sounds way cuter than other currencies like the boring dollar, euro, or yuan. I'm on board with this new eRupee revolution! And there's an "UPI" as in "up-ee" too? Cuteness overload! Please take my money!

  • @scottfranco1962
    @scottfranco1962 Рік тому +6

    Zelle always worried me, so I only use it to pay trusted persons. Thanks for the deep dive, I didn't really know much about Zelle.

  • @seanistheman7sk
    @seanistheman7sk Рік тому +5

    The one and only time I used Zelle to send my mom 1k, she never got it until 6 months later. When I called Zelle they told me to call the bank and when I called the bank they told me to call my moms bank. My moms bank told me they never got it. No one was able to help us and then one day 6 months later my mom saw it finally in her account. So I absolutely HATE zelle

    • @jesussalazar8066
      @jesussalazar8066 Рік тому

      Thats 100% not zelle but a bank issue cause i went through the same thing. Now with chase i can send 3k and they get it instantly

  • @samueladams2340
    @samueladams2340 Рік тому +9

    Transfer using PayPal takes a 1-3 business days. Zelle typically takes 30s. Ain’t nobody for time for that!

  • @jdubsfl5307
    @jdubsfl5307 Рік тому +53

    Another major con of Zelle: it provides banks (and by extension the IRS) with a trail of transactions that otherwise could've normally been conducted in cash. As a consequence, when the IRS polls your bank they can retrieve a list of your Zelle transactions and include these when reconciling your returns. Businesses are now required to report any digital payments above $600 to the IRS.

    • @edwardmartin8769
      @edwardmartin8769 Рік тому +20

      Why is that bad? Don’t we want regulation and correct taxation?

    • @jdubsfl5307
      @jdubsfl5307 Рік тому +20

      And we can observe that the IRS is already monitoring the comments section.

    • @eegernades
      @eegernades Рік тому +5

      @@edwardmartin8769 for the rich little guy already has their money taken eery other way

    • @StuartcDundas
      @StuartcDundas Рік тому +17

      Zelle has said they're not reporting transactions to the IRS, because the $600 rule is for goods and services and Zelle operates under the assumption that Zelle payments are personal transactions not good or services.

    • @cris1735
      @cris1735 Рік тому +8

      @@edwardmartin8769 Large corporations and rich individuals never pay the taxes they owe. They know every loophole and tax avoidance scheme they can take. On the other hand, poor and middle class people have to shoulder all the costs and be the honest ones.

  • @n2201
    @n2201 Рік тому +11

    This problem has already been answered by UPI used in India. total annihilation of credit card

    • @deus_ex_machina_
      @deus_ex_machina_ Рік тому +4

      @@WitchMedusa Should we just keep quiet about it so other countries don't feel bad about being behind the times?

    • @token3462
      @token3462 Рік тому +1

      @@WitchMedusa Once you use UPI, you’ll realise how laughable the payment industry is of the western world 😂

  • @portiasnowdon9443
    @portiasnowdon9443 Рік тому +19

    Hmmm as a Canadian I don’t understand this, we just interact e-transfer directly from our banking apps? We don’t really use 3rd party apps.. isn’t that just a money grab for fees?

    • @LogicallyAnswered
      @LogicallyAnswered  Рік тому +5

      Yeah basically hahaha

    • @viharsarok
      @viharsarok Рік тому +1

      Do your Canadian banking apps offer you free multi currency accounts and currency exchange?

  • @balpreetsingh6834
    @balpreetsingh6834 Рік тому +29

    You can also cover NPCI's UPI, since it has started to go global now.

  • @jaspreet6075
    @jaspreet6075 Рік тому +6

    Upi is on another level

  • @neilmarkcorre5524
    @neilmarkcorre5524 Рік тому +13

    Coming from a "developing country" (or 3rd world), we've had instant transfers and easy transfers using phone numbers for years now. You can also make transfers using QR codes between banks. There are convenience fees but it's fine given the convenience of instant transfers. All bills are also accessed and paid in the same app, adding to the convenience.

  • @danielvasquez3758
    @danielvasquez3758 Рік тому +1

    Thanks LA!! Another great video!! Hope you have a great weekend!!

  • @Anton-V
    @Anton-V Рік тому +10

    In Mexico we have a system called SPEI, virtually all banks support it and most of the time transactions will go through within a few minutes or seconds, I think is really convenient but it's not very popular, a lot of people don't have a bank account and most people who have one withdraw all their funds on their payday and just use cash

  • @forkyfork
    @forkyfork Рік тому +3

    I have never used Zelle, but when my Chase account was hacked, that’s what the scammers used to siphon money out of it. So I am a bit weary..

    • @randygraham926
      @randygraham926 Рік тому +1

      Did Chase get your money back to you?

    • @azyx100
      @azyx100 Рік тому

      Well we are more interested in how your bank account got hacked. How?

  • @freecuriousmind
    @freecuriousmind Рік тому +3

    Only if you knew the power of UPI in India. We can pay instantly using mobile numbers and QR codes.

  • @AbdelazizRashed--
    @AbdelazizRashed-- Рік тому +2

    I am not from the US, but in Egypt we have a similar app called InstaPay made by Egyptian banks. Before this app, the only way to send and receive money was by E-Wallets which charged between 1-2% every time you want to withdraw money, and sending money from bank account to another was out of the question. After InstaPay, I could send and receive money to and from pretty much anything, E-Wallet, bank account, phone number, email you name it all of this free of charge.
    I don't care if the bank is controlling everything. I am not a banker or a rich person to care. All I care about the convenience and the fact that I am saving money.

  • @DeltaDemon1
    @DeltaDemon1 Рік тому +5

    Been using paypal for years. Never even heard of Zelle or Venmo. Even if I had heard of it, they mean nothing. Paypal is self explanatory. Naming should mean something.

  • @PN-ve9lf
    @PN-ve9lf Рік тому

    You never disappoint!

  • @InstinktzBTW
    @InstinktzBTW Рік тому +7

    I love Zelle. I only use it to transfer funds instantly from bank to bank or to receive payments from relatives

  • @boredcryptek5513
    @boredcryptek5513 Рік тому +11

    I have been using Venmo this far. I think I used PayPal once to pay someone for some collector's style purchase I once made. Zelle seems interesting for sure just haven't really needed to use it.

  • @veernagda9203
    @veernagda9203 Рік тому +5

    India has similar system regulated by GOI known as UPI, and which can be used using n number of apps not specifically Bank app or specific app.
    Just scan a qr or enter an ID or enter phone number and bank to bank transfer of money

  • @JP-vr7od
    @JP-vr7od Рік тому +11

    I’d rather banks have the power than visa, Mastercard, and PayPal. Banks have a lot more competition, which is a great thing for the customer.

  • @tomudom
    @tomudom Рік тому +1

    Instant money transfer between bank are everywhere in southeast Asia, it has a drawback in which scammers can get money easier and faster compare to what we have now in US. Also consumer protection are better with credit card purchase.

  • @tohgaming69
    @tohgaming69 Рік тому +2

    second nice
    i always make sure to watch your vids asap they are legendary

  • @dang6102
    @dang6102 Рік тому +1

    I would’ve preferred using an account number instead since having to share personal information is undesirable.

  • @valentinmoeller
    @valentinmoeller Рік тому +2

    I love this channel. You are great at explaining so man things. I love it! But please could you think about upgrading your microphone or used EQ? Your voice is way to compressed and should have more details in highs and mids. Thank you!!

    • @LogicallyAnswered
      @LogicallyAnswered  Рік тому +1

      Thank you for the feedback Valentin! I don’t think it’s the mic because I use an mkh 416, but maybe something can be tweaked in eq.

    • @SearchFinger
      @SearchFinger Рік тому

      @@LogicallyAnswered good content, but I have to crank up my laptop's volume because your bedroom voice is so soft... ;-)😁

  • @reeceaberdeen-roberts1212
    @reeceaberdeen-roberts1212 Рік тому +7

    Always weird seeing these videos because in Europe we've been able to do this with our banks for years with no extra apps

  • @Footballzenis
    @Footballzenis Рік тому

    Interesting video Man. Very informative. Thanks for sharing this with us.

  • @vekvideos
    @vekvideos Рік тому +1

    Almost every Indian watching this video will smirk at least once for sure.
    “They are talking about hours & days to receive money in their account”

  • @Marvelously888
    @Marvelously888 Рік тому

    Just found you - appreciate the information! Thanks

  • @kashyapchonekar5437
    @kashyapchonekar5437 Рік тому +3

    Me using upi everyday 👀

  • @pbilk
    @pbilk Рік тому +1

    It sounds like Zelle by the large banks in the USA is similar to E-transfers that pretty much all banks in Canada use.

  • @jackwillemszoon6586
    @jackwillemszoon6586 Рік тому +1

    Until it's established in the marketplace then suddenly it's no longer free and you have to pay for the service!

  • @jorgebours3691
    @jorgebours3691 Рік тому +4

    i dont agree with the international part, most countries already have a free instant transfer system, the US is just way behind on this which is why these apps are even a thing.

  • @prathersmith4562
    @prathersmith4562 Рік тому +1

    I enjoy using zelle because since I joined my daughter's cellular plan, I can sent her my part of my bill with no fees. I also like moving money from one bank account to another bank account with no fees if I have a bill that I am paying with a particular card and don't have enough funds on the card to complete the transaction. I work two jobs and have my pay going to separate accounts. It allows me to manage my money better.

  • @justinfowler2857
    @justinfowler2857 Рік тому +1

    Zelle, helping scammers steal from your grandma since 2016.

  • @cocoa1harrison
    @cocoa1harrison Рік тому +2

    THAT'S WHY IT'S BEST 2 SEND $1. TO B SURE WHO U R SENDING FUNDS 2 RECEIVE THAT 1ST B4 SENDING THE ACTUAL PAYMENT IF THEY RECEIVE THAT PAYMENT THEN IT'S OK 2 SEND WHATEVER U WERE PLANNING ON SENDING THEM

  • @randomstuff-qu7sh
    @randomstuff-qu7sh Рік тому +1

    I wouldn't say I'm a fan of Zelle, but I do use the service. I use it to transfer funds between my main bank account and another account that just exists so I can rent a safe deposit box. I don't have to do it often; just every few months to keep the bank from labeling the account "abandoned" and stealing my money (which they've tried to do a few times before I started using Zelle to create activity). I notice Zelle gives a giant warning every time I transfer funds, saying that once money is sent, its gone, make sure to send only to people you know and trust, etc. Not sure if that's standard for all users or if they see I'm sending to my own email and think I'm falling for a scam.

  • @tonymouannes
    @tonymouannes Рік тому +3

    Zelle is a direct transfer service. It's more like ACH than PayPal, even though it takes business away from it. Payment services are a useless middle man and require 2 additional transfers from and to a bank account. I use zelle to move money between my own accounts in different banks which would take too long using ACH. It's also useful when splitting large bills like rent.

  • @HennessyCG
    @HennessyCG Рік тому +1

    I know a few friends have to use Zell cause their bank acts like venmo and Cash App are out of circuit atms

  • @ShivaPrasadrao1
    @ShivaPrasadrao1 Рік тому +3

    hi, a suggestion for next video UPI of India. Which is the free of charge payment medium. even without internet we can transfer funds

  • @MOBMJ
    @MOBMJ Рік тому +1

    I don’t really use Zell that much, but it’s nice to have if you need it. I use more Venmo and Apple Pay with friends and family.

  • @JeremyBolanos
    @JeremyBolanos Рік тому +1

    Use case. Zelle is great for bank-to-bank transfers. Only so much as a payment option if you trust the person (club dues, reimbursement for lunch, etc.). With Paypal, unless you use them for a bank, you still have to pay to transfer that money to your bank. So you would want to avoid your roommate paying you via Paypal for their share of the rent.

  • @aoarecruiter
    @aoarecruiter Рік тому +1

    This aged well.

  • @realRichHunting
    @realRichHunting Рік тому

    I've been using Zelle for a couple of years and it's completely replaced PayPal. I deleted the PayPal app from my phone and haven't logged into the account in over a year. PayPal has a bad habit of holding funds and since I travel a lot for my job, they always made me verify my information, since I am in a different location many times I take payments. PayPal was great 10 years ago, but now it's a burden.

  • @weird-guy
    @weird-guy Рік тому

    i´m from Portugal and we have a similar app called MBway, but people still use bank transfers if is between same bank is instant,if not takes a max of 3 days but most happens in the same day.

  • @akshaypendyala
    @akshaypendyala Рік тому +2

    You must take a look at UPI technology being used in India, you would be surprised!

  • @danielvasquez3758
    @danielvasquez3758 Рік тому +8

    Zelle is that sneaky little brother!!

  • @OriginalGrasshopper
    @OriginalGrasshopper 5 місяців тому

    So crazy to see how many DECADES behind the times the United States is. In Sweden we’ve had free, instantaneous bank to bank transfers since the 1980’s. And everyday purchases are done with your phone through a system called Swish.

  • @FatheredPuma81
    @FatheredPuma81 Рік тому

    I used Zelle to transfer money between my bank accounts. Was convenient the first time because it worked instantly but sending money back took a couple days. Was also inconvenient because I added my email to 1 and my phone number and email to the other. The result was I could only send and ask for money from 1 of the accounts...

  • @taoriq3632
    @taoriq3632 Рік тому +11

    I am not a fan of Zelle I am a huge fan of it this because PayPal has screwed me over a number of times when I made transactions

  • @echung168
    @echung168 Рік тому

    Well to be fair, Zelle's massive growth probably has something to do with the fact that it works directly with massive banking institutions. My BoA uses Zelle when Venmo and Paypal was slowly coming up back in like 2014/15. No one knew what it was or barely anyone had it.

  • @justinliao5192
    @justinliao5192 Рік тому

    One of lousy friend gave a wrong phone number for me to Zelle. Lucky me, the person who owns the phone number didn’t accept the payment. However, it makes me think twice when using Zelle nowadays!

  • @mysteryspy7
    @mysteryspy7 Рік тому +9

    I think you should make a video on UPI and how it revolutionised the peer to peer money transfer in India

  • @andrewtaylor1256
    @andrewtaylor1256 Рік тому +3

    unfortunately the pharmacy I use for my cats only takes checks or Zelle. seeing they are in New Zealand, im stuck using zelle for my cats meds :(

    • @kevalshah7977
      @kevalshah7977 Рік тому

      how does the pharmacy accept payment with zelle? do they just give you a phone number or email id to transfer bill money?

  • @spankynater4242
    @spankynater4242 Рік тому

    I stopped using Zelle when the IRS announced the $600 threshold. I don’t use Zelle for business, but I don’t want to have to deal with another government form.

  • @daveselbow9128
    @daveselbow9128 Рік тому +1

    Zelle's income is the payment data - the 'new oil'

  • @theenergizer248
    @theenergizer248 Рік тому +1

    never heard of Zelle. didn't know they exist

  • @sumantasahoo7841
    @sumantasahoo7841 Рік тому +1

    In India we have " UPI " It's great.

  • @Syncopator
    @Syncopator Рік тому +2

    If you're buying stuff, you don't always have a choice-- sellers may only accept certain services, it's not always negotiable. And we've needed an alternative to Paypal for a long time, its services leave a lot to be desired. I started using Zelle because of a seller who didn't accept Paypal, and it's been convenient ever since. However, my average transaction is a lot lower than $300, by an order of magnitude. As a seller though, I wouldn't have to worry about scammer customers because if the money ain't there, I don't deliver the goods-- that's my transaction security...

    • @kevalshah7977
      @kevalshah7977 Рік тому

      so how do you pay to the seller via Zelle? via mobile number like that?

    • @Syncopator
      @Syncopator Рік тому

      @@kevalshah7977 Either mobile number or email. But you have to do it through your bank's website. Many of the major banks support it.

    • @MrTeff999
      @MrTeff999 Рік тому

      Zelle tells you to send money to only those you know. Unlike the traditional credit cards, you have no protection from scammers.

  • @desert-fax-only
    @desert-fax-only Рік тому +2

    I hope more credit unions start adopting Zelle also.

  • @lilshaunpicanto
    @lilshaunpicanto Рік тому

    You know what else took 5 business days to complete??
    My Mom 😂😂😂😂😂 3:20

  • @Justin_black_leviathan
    @Justin_black_leviathan Рік тому

    I get so many scams contacting me about zelle payments. I tried to sell a laptop on the marketplace, and it was a nightmare.

  • @thomasreese2816
    @thomasreese2816 Рік тому

    Each bank can decide to use the Zelle app, or implement their own usage. Bank of America won't let you use the app, which make sit super painful to transfer

    • @randygraham926
      @randygraham926 Рік тому

      Change your bank and tell Bank of America the reason. Most big banks -- especially Wells Fargo -- are so dishonest it's better to use a credit union anyway.

  • @rightwingsafetysquad9872
    @rightwingsafetysquad9872 Рік тому +1

    I don't think Zelle is necessarily a move against PayPal or Square (CashApp owner). Seems just as likely to be a preemption of FedCoin. If the Dollar and Euro go digital, no one has much need for a depository account at all,

  • @95blahblahhaha
    @95blahblahhaha Рік тому +1

    When it comes to friends I say "I'll cashapp you" way more than Venmo and def more than PayPal

  • @kennedyatwood5364
    @kennedyatwood5364 Рік тому

    ?Can you use Zelle to transfer money to/ from any US territory bank (i.e. PR) to/from US mainland bank?

  • @chrisbarry9345
    @chrisbarry9345 Рік тому

    Huh? PayPal must have really changed from back when I used it more because I'm accustomed to it always assuming a fraud claim is valid and basically making the merchant prove that the funds shouldn't be taken from them

  • @jimmikaelson
    @jimmikaelson Рік тому +1

    I used to work for one of those pioneering banks, I was there when CXC was created, until it was rebranded as Zelle, the real problem why money in the United States takes longer to get transferred than probably anywhere else in the world is because of the Anti-Money Laundering Law, if you include the Patriot Act, and the Bank Secrecy Law, you get the current US banking system.
    Banks can actually get penalized if they're proven to provide a way for people to use money that cannot be traced, an example of that is an incident with GE Capital which is now rebranded as Synchrony Bank,,

    • @randygraham926
      @randygraham926 Рік тому +1

      Excellent point and absolutely correct.
      Americans are already half way to dystopia ... and just haven't gotten the memo yet. Now the IRS wants to know when you send or receive $600 over PayPal??!! I'm sure that will stop tax fraud among the billionaires.

  • @00mpa1oomp4
    @00mpa1oomp4 Рік тому +1

    consumer banking in USA belong to the middle ages, so old school

  • @mkulak0
    @mkulak0 Рік тому +1

    Lol, in Poland every bank offers instant transfers via phone number for free

  • @Mobius_Pizza
    @Mobius_Pizza Рік тому +1

    Why dont bank in US just overhaul the ACH to be instantaneous. European banks have fee free instant transfer for a while now. It is mind boggling that it is quicker for me to write a check to myself and scan it to another bank via app than do an electronic ACH.
    Zelle is nice but not all bank supports it and the problem is it is tied to phone number and an email. If you have more than 2-3 banks there's a hassle.

  • @leadbullets4life
    @leadbullets4life 2 місяці тому

    Zelle is not protected, if you sent out money to a client and you misspell the email address you could be sending money to someone else and a 99% chance you will never recover your money.

  • @dimaisatree
    @dimaisatree Рік тому +12

    I love Zelle, it’s so quick and easy to use. I tried PayPal but it’s confusing and money doesn’t transfer instantly.

  • @robertoXCX
    @robertoXCX Рік тому +1

    I personally feel like a lot of issues could be solved if more people got in the know about the wonders of ACH.

    • @MaxPower-11
      @MaxPower-11 Рік тому

      The problem is that ACH is not a real-time system, unlike Zelle and the upcoming FedNow system.

  • @DirtyMikeandTheBoyz
    @DirtyMikeandTheBoyz Рік тому

    PayPal doesn't charge money transfer fee because they charge a fee to add the money in the first and also withdrawal. They have many fees.

  • @centralintelligenceagency9082

    The power consolidation will be incredible

  • @SpringRubber
    @SpringRubber Рік тому +1

    Zelle is run by big banks yet there is no recourse for a mistake. If you are perfect good for you. I used Zelle once but it's a hard pass for me.

  • @digitialkonnections9954
    @digitialkonnections9954 Рік тому +1

    I use Zelle so I don't have to pay additional taxes if you spend over $600 dollars in a year (Venmo and Cash app issue)

  • @IronMan3582
    @IronMan3582 Рік тому +1

    My credit union based in Virginia doesn’t support Zelle as of yet, hate to be that guy. This was especially inconvenient when my new landlord only took Zelle, and I had to go through hoops of fire to get it set up because it required third-party authentication to make the transfers go through and my credit union didn’t know anything about it.

    • @rockmusicman21
      @rockmusicman21 Рік тому

      How can they legally not accept checks or cash?

    • @IronMan3582
      @IronMan3582 Рік тому +1

      @@rockmusicman21 he does it’s just that I’ve never carry cash since the summer of 2001 when I got my first debit card, I haven’t used checks since 2009. Most banks charge for checks these days and they are no longer complementary. Being that I live in Pennsylvania and my credit union is in Virginia. It’s really hard to find a ATM that doesn’t have a transaction fee that will allow me to withdraw more than $300 at a given moment. So at present, and Zelle is my only option the guy doesn’t take PayPal Venmo cash app none of that stuff.
      And the reason why I have a credit union in Virginia and live in Pennsylvania is because I couldn’t afford to live in Northern Virginia by myself after I broke up with my ex girlfriend, and she wrecked my credit and checking account for my bank in Virginia so I had to use the credit union that I got the car loan from for my full-time use. It sucks and I hate it.

    • @rockmusicman21
      @rockmusicman21 Рік тому

      @@IronMan3582 sorry to hear that. My landlord only accepts checks in the mail the old fashioned way so i had to pay to order checks from the bank and buy stamps and envelopes. Its really annoying. My last landlord i would just hand him cash after i cashed my paycheck

  • @456ashar
    @456ashar Рік тому +4

    I love Zelle. Makes everything so easy. I only use it for transactions below 200$. Above that is Wire transfer or Paypal.

  • @wyattboyer6540
    @wyattboyer6540 Рік тому

    The thing is, there’s always another side. I don’t trust PayPal anymore than them

  • @mrlucasftw42
    @mrlucasftw42 Рік тому

    The banks HAVE NOT been standing behind Zelle. Many people dispute and get denied. Legally (at least with how weak the regulators are) they aren't exactly bound to. Most people have to get the media involved (if they are with one of the bigger banks) to have any hope of reimbursement.

  • @ytpremium7649
    @ytpremium7649 Рік тому +1

    Zelle has been targeted by the tax franchise board and is coming for everyone who transacted $600 or more

  • @rohitx32
    @rohitx32 Рік тому

    And now just imagine if you can send money from Zelle to Paypal or Venmo vice versa That will be called UPI

  • @dystopia-usa
    @dystopia-usa 3 місяці тому +1

    Doing any sort of financial transactions/business on a smartphone is just asking for trouble.

  • @elymanic3497
    @elymanic3497 Рік тому +1

    Only reason I use zelle. Is my bank app. Td Bank and Citi has it. So my parents and brothers can send from one to the other instantly. Without a 3rd party

  • @mentos124
    @mentos124 Рік тому

    in brazil we have "PIX", kinda like zelle but by the government itself

  • @gopinathkaki5982
    @gopinathkaki5982 Рік тому +2

    Thank god We India's have UPI

  • @thomasstvarnik
    @thomasstvarnik Рік тому

    Just use your bank? Instant free payment, if you make a mistake, you can go, explain and the bank will get the money back for you. These apps seem useful only for abroad payments, but i’d probably use Wise for those.

  • @yeastarly4268
    @yeastarly4268 Рік тому

    Zelle I really only use to send or receive money from friends or family since it goss straight to my account or straight to theirs businesses PayPal only for the saftey and protection they provide

  • @pegcity4eva
    @pegcity4eva Рік тому +1

    Canada has had interact for like twenty years.