People Laugh At Bing. It’s 2X More Lucrative Than Google.
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- Опубліковано 30 лип 2024
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Since its introduction, Bing has been a meme. People have always seen Bing as Microsoft's crappy attempt to take on Google. And though Bing was a massive loss leader in the early days, over the years, it has evolved to be much more than just that. You see, Bing has been able to create a pretty strong niche user base thanks to their rewards strategy. This has only been assisted by people’s growingly negative opinion of Google and growingly neutral opinion about Microsoft. This is no coincidence either. Microsoft has become a lot more passive over the years and has started to embrace its competition instead trying to compete against everything. This has allowed them to make a chromium-powered Edge that’s better than Chrome. And it appears that Microsoft is carrying over this same approach to Bing as well. Instead of trying to force Cortana down people’s throats, Microsoft has opted to incorporate ChatGPT into Bing which seems to have generated a pretty positive response from the public. This video explains the underdog story of Bing and why Bing is not a failure
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0:00 - The Sentiment Surrounding Bing
2:40 - Attracting Users
5:50 - Superior Demographics
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Is anyone else absolutely FLOORED to hear that Bing makes $11bn a year?? 😵💫
That sounds like a 10th of what Microsoft makes
Still very minute compared to what Microsoft as a whole earns
@@8xus_1 way less then that
A rounding error compared to what Microsoft actually earns
Never expect bing to make a comeback the way they did!! Glad to see some competition!!
For real haha
I've used Microsoft Bing as my exclusive search engine from around 2011 or 2012, sometime around 2018 or 2019 I switched to Ecosia which is powered to Microsoft. Google hardly shows better results and with Bing you get Microsoft Rewards and with Ecosia you're helping endangered ecosystems around the world.
Competition is always good compared to monopolies, regardless of how you feel about the competitors.
@@LogicallyAnswered
Is clicking on website link gonna open new tab ?
Microsoft will be too big
Been about a week since i switched from Google to Bing. I really do like the experience here. It offers everything google does with some additional features. Also switched from chrome to Edge and my computer feels much snappier.
Glad to hear that Singh!
Luckily for Google though UA-cam can never be replaced.
I've been using edge at work for about a year now but firefox is still by far my preferred browser at home.
See I feel the opposite. My job uses all Microsoft based products and every time I need to do a search I always just bing search it and realize my results are garbage and helpful so I have bing Google and always find my answer.
This is happened way too many times. Before my current job I've binged and googled to see what's giving me what I want need and look for with various categories and bing still hadn't done anything for me especially not find anything I ask it for.
@@oppionatedindividual8256 Yup, my friend always said Google search can never be replaced. But I think UA-cam is harder because it's not just a tool, it's kind of social media.
Definitely true - as an IT expert I avoided Microsoft products my entire life and even 20 years in my professional life. They tried to get users and lock them down in their all-or-nothing mentality. Glad to see they have come out of this phase, because while I have no emotions towards Microsoft one way or another, one cannot ignore their skill and competence as a world leading tech corporation.
But now they do everything as a Subscription Service rather than Buy Once Own for Life like the old days so it's a Wash
@@DarthAwar Subscription services are not necessarily bad. In some way I actually prefer it as it forces the software vendor to continue to provide value if they want to continue to earn my money. I guess if you are the type of person that buys a software and runs it for 15 years without updating maybe you don't like the subscription model.
@@TurboSpeedWiFi it also reminds businesses to update their s***
@@colto2312 Very true. I think this is a benefit. No longer is upgrading an expense that the finance department wants to complain about. Instead the upgrade is viewed as part of what we are paying for and something we want to get.
I'm slowly transitioning to Bing for searches now. I feel like Google is tampering too much with the search algorithm and feeding me results which they feel like rather than what I expect.
Same me too! However I also saw some videos talking about that and am secretly wondering if they are targetted recommended videos to switch. Nevertheless, I am much happier on Bing, especially for images! Google removed so many features for images...
I mean the first page of search in Google is literally just ads
You aren't the only one feeling that about google!
I transitioned pretty fast!
More bing than Google now
Now is a really dangerous time for Google. Keeping the company culture/strategy like this and they will fail against a way more flexible Microsoft. Or trying to radically change course and risk losing control. Also Microsoft seems to have their revenue streams more diversified and most revenue comes from locked-in companies.
I never thought that I'd hear the words flexible and Microsoft in the same sentence but here we are.
It seems like there are serious work culture problems at Google they need to address first.
Windows 11 still not as flexible as android tho
Classic case of rabbit and the hare where the roles got reversed
@@piplupempoleon4225 lol wtf out of thin air
@@glauberbispo8922 it is true tho, windows 7 costumization > windows 11
I wouldn't expect that profits scale linearly with the market share percentage. I.e., probably if Bing had the same market penetration percentage of Google, it's fairly possible that revenues per percentage would fall.
That’s true, especially as they expand to less profitable demographics
Solid video. I had no idea Bring was nearly this profitable. I recently switched to Bing to try it after all of these years. I’m shocked at how good it is now. Can’t wait to see the search wars heat up!
I am looking forward for these changes in the search landscape. I actually liked the fact that the old in-house version of Microsoft Edge was able to open e-book formats easily. It also memorized the last page you were reading (something that the current Edge does if you open a PDF with it. I've never seen Chrome do that).
What do you mean? You can make google save you tabs when closed in settings if that's what you mean
@@redshift739 if you opened a PDF in edge scrolled to a certain page and closed the PDF, edge will automatically open the PDF to the last page you were on when you reopen the pdf
i noticed that edge eats less RAM than chrome itself despite being a chromium based browser too while being responsive as well
now i'm giving bing a chance and it's soo good
Just switched to Edge and Bing from Chrome and Google a week ago, and so far I have no desire to go back...
Bing should make a dark mode before AI chat.
there are extensions for that
It have dark mode now.
I haven't checked out Bing in a good 5 years until they announced their AI bot, and man it has improved a lot
Overtime Bing I'm sure will take the lead that Google currently holds, situations such as this aren't unheard of; once less viable options have changed themselves to become fair better than their competitors.
It's what I expect to happen, another search engine will inevitably take their place. Just looking at companies of the past, patterns like this immerge constantly.
Thanks for your consistent videos 🙏🙏
Thanks man!
Your videos are always so entertaining and you learn something. Thanks!
Thanks bro!
@@LogicallyAnswered *sis but no problem!
I have Bing chat and ChatGPT constantly open on my second monitor while I write a book on my main monitor. There is no better application to have access to while you are writing. They answer any question I might have related to my writing. Definitions, synonyms, perfectly tweaking a sentence I can't seem to get perfect on my own, advising on punctuation etc, etc. ChatGPT blows my mind when it comes to understanding the fine nuance of the English language. Mmmm bah bah google.
Glad to see you again!! Hope you have a great week!!
Thank you Daniel! I hope you have a great week as well
It's normal for massive bussiness to win less by user compared to less massive ones, the strategy (differenciation vs cost strategy) follows that tendency.
I'm happy to see options!
They need to take this opportunity to increase market share and lock them in the ecosystems, because the general public aren’t going to change browsers because an AI chat.
Good timing; Google searches were getting more and more useless by the day. Not respecting my quotes because the algo thinks it knows what I'm looking for, better than me? Not cool Google. Not cool.
I've been buying MSFT stock because bing is crushing it and oepnAI > Google's AI
@Kirbo Will be interesting to see
As an AI enthusiast I don't think so. Most of Open AI stuff like ChatGPT is built on top of Google's technology. The problem with Google is that they are not making any public releases as they are big and have reputation to save. Google cannot produce misinformation like ChatGPT. But I am sure when they come out with the products, they will make a huge impact. When it comes to AI, Google is top tier atleast according to me.
@@ravitejaknts dude you missed their presentation? It presented fake information so your arguments are invalid 😅 also made stock drop 100billion
@@Anthraxxxxx More like you did not understand my comment. Google did not release the product because to save their reputation. But now the current situation is more dangerous than loosing reputation. So, they are hurrying.
To be frank, you supported my point actually. No one cares if ChatGPT and Bing provides misinformation which they are doing every single day with millions of answers. But if Google did it, it's a big thing.
Microsoft is so ready to release the unfinished product because they don't have to worry about anything. Whereas Google cannot do that.
I still think Google is way ahead of the competition when it comes to AI.
Great vid as always!
Thanks man!
You been pumping out lot of content for Bing :)
I hope things are not the way i am thinking.....
The desktop portion I think is skewed since its defaulted on new machines. And for age I think that's because they do not care or choose to change the default browsers.
I just switched from google and chrome to bing and edge a week ago. I can say edge and bing are much better and less resource hungry. I love the quick side bar search of edge though.
I can easily see Google losing a lot of market share. Due to seo, Google genuinely sucks.
Bing is pretty great for a search engine ngl. I still don't use Edge since I am so used to chrome dev tools. But if I was just a normal user and not a web dev, I think I would have swapped already. One of these days I will make the switch, Google has really fumbled the bag with chrome/google search.
Edge has the same chrome dev tools because it’s both chromium based. I’m also a web dev and develop on edge now
Being used to a browser is something I cant fight with. Im too used to edge for iOS to switch back to safari
@@bachvo1269 Wow they are the same, I think last time I checked, it was different. I am so used to using chrome dev tools that it was a deal breaker for me. Now I just need to get edge set up, chrome kind of sucks right now.
Great analysis! I'm a Bing/Edge user and I love it!
Excellent video!
6:47 looks like someone needs to see an orthodontist 🤣
I accidentally clicked Microsoft edge on my computer once and immediately spent 14+ minutes exploring all of the crazy features that it Includes. I’m seriously considering switching
Great vid, perfect timing lol
You should... It's worth it... More features for less load on the computer.
You know that ram test that people used to do on chrome? I just opened 500 tabs on both browsers and edge used 50% more ram and almost double the cpu usage. I also did Firefox and it was lower by over 150% 👀👀
Don’t know what to think about that lol
@@SilliousBillious I got results that don't match. It was 50 percent less in edge
@@VarunSrinivas which browser was 50% more than edge?
@@SilliousBillious chrome
Great video as usual
Also I’d love to see a video on Carlos slim helu
Thanks for the suggestion Yeshaya!
I have to say that for debugging code bing is often providing better suggestions than google
I actually only used to use bing whenever i got frustrated with google giving the worst results possible. Now I use it more along with Edge (still mostly for the rewards program) but it might only be a matter of time before I switch, who knows?
How many years ago were people saying the desktop was dead? Makes total sense to do more complex searches on it
Hahaha regarding the Bing demographic. That is exactly me. 2.5 years per phone on average that only costs me around 350,-. Also maximizing Bing search points everyday saving for a sweet xbox.
Ah, the good ol’ days of exploiter.
Google is simpler though…still more accessible. My main issue with all websites at the moment is the incessant pop up adverts. I can’t read most of whatever article I am trying to have read to me because the friggin Pages are sooooooo cluttered that you might hear a sentence out of ten minutes trying to go through the ads and get back to your article. It’s annoying af.
Interesting analysis. I recently switched to Bing and notice it does well when researching stock information. However, it's sucks for debug code problems. Basically what you said in the video.
The funny thing is: when coding it feels like I'm getting better results with DuckDuckGo than with Google.
And DDG uses Bing. I wonder how that fits😅
(Really, I do)
Well, it's good for researching about stocks in the US but bing knows nothing our stock market
I switched now to bing but it's there some way on android without root to deinstall the Google search app? Because I now have the bing search app and I don't need the Google search app anymore
One important point to note, Microsoft can only go up in market share with bing and for google it's the opposite. However Bard becomes, Google will try to hold on to their existing revenue and MSFT will start gaining more
I used to use Bing as my default homepage and search engine in my Chrome. I like that they changed the home page photo everyday with informative stats about the photo. Also I was a big Microsoft fanboy
Just use edge at this point
Maybe talk about the iOS versions of bing and edge, they have some amazing features
B2B is what makes Microsoft is good at and it’s great they changed to that. Like Azure focusing on building themselves in the background and in the case with bing focusing on targeting the miserly rich ans embracing collaboration instead monopolisation lol
It's safe to say that if Microsoft cannot build a better version of a product, they can just buy it. 🙂They created cloud services and office products, but they also invested in or straight bought some, like Chatgpt, Github, and game studios.
From what I've learnt from my class on digital economy, the most valuable demographic for advertisers are people who are going through changes in their lives, so that includes young and upcoming parents, newly married or divorced, and people with various health problems.
8:07 does anyone know what that device is he’s holding in his left hand?
The informations about daily rewards points are outdated. More than one year ago they changed it to 162 points (before 250) from search function and the Xbox daily rewards are variable(from 100 to 200 points usually). The daily total is usually 340 points in general.
I'll be honest this is the first time I've considered going with Microsoft's approach instead. I've admittedly harbored some hate towards their products for a while now purely because of rumors how bad they are. Having MS Edge force install itself onto my windows pc and creeping into every opening-hyperlink didn't do it any favors either. But I'll actually try it out myself now and see if the rumors stil stand true.
my work pc has windows 10 on it, with edge as default browser. our IT allows Chrome install if we want it. Yet somehow, after a day or two using chrome, windows will say 'something went wrong, we have reset edge as default browser'. i change it to chrome and a couple days later 'something went wrong' lol. i finally gave up. Not like i have private info on there that could be leaked by edge.
03:02 Not true, Bing was simply a rename, originally M.S.N. Search was created in 1998 and is only 1 year younger than Google.
My bad, 1999.
In regards to Bing bringing in 2x as much revenue per user, it could be because people who use the default search engine and browser on their PC are more likely to be older and less tech literate, thus they’re probably boomers with way more money than average and are therefore more lucrative for advertisers.
the size of device screen dictates how long you will surf, i definitely refuse to torture myself, it either tablet or desktop
At the end of the day, it's two monopolistic entities that hold as much power as the robber barons of the gilded age.
Seems like notable rehashing with the recent Bing video. Still lots of new info & theories, but definitely a sizable overlap. Probably better to space out the two more?
This video is interesting and well crafted, with one thing that bugged me enough to point out-if you could mix up your wording more so that you’re not calling things “lucrative” every two seconds, it would be a bit easier to listen to. Right now it feels like Microsoft is paying you to say the word “lucrative,” with the word “profitable” coming in close behind it. Just gets repetitive and tiresome. But other than that one nitpicky thing, this is a great video and definitely better than anything I could put together. Will be interesting to see whether Microsoft takes over Google in this space in the next decade.
Satya Nadela is the best CEO Microsoft ever had.
He's the third worst CEO Microsoft has had.
I feel like some parts of your script had to have been written before Microsoft heavily nerfed Bing Chat. At this point with the 5 message per conversation limit you're better off just using ChatGPT. And a lot of people (me included) wanted to play with Bing Chat because of all the erratic responses it was giving.
😔
Bing Chat? Could not locate this on Google Play Store.
Still in waiting list. If i got a nerfed bing. I'm better off with chatgpt.
The problem is that chatting with an a.i. system is very expensive in comparison to normal searches. So they probably want to minimize users who are just messing around.
I'm not defending this behaviour, I'm just speculating.
I love the idea that with public access to A I. comes the ability to believe what a person is saying, while disbelieving it came from the person saying it...
I'm a Google fan boy but still I've sign up for bing waiting list, I'll be happy to see competition and to try there latest stuff but with everything still I don't believe I'll leave Google for bing
Yeah me neither, but it’s cool to see that Bing is making some sort of tangible progress
@@LogicallyAnswered yeah it brilliant that it's stressing Google, I'm sure a lot of improvements will be made on both parties which will make things even better for us, one important thing that should be considered AI search results need much more power to run and we should not overlook that
How are you even a fan of a search engine what does that even mean
@@Chiefrocka. Google is more than just a search engine I use most of there products everyday, I definitely like what they are doing on a lot of things plus they are better than the competition in my perspective
@@walid6329 OK how about you go outside touch grass
The average Bing user uses Bing because they got sick of Google and realized Bing is actually just as good if not better.
What about the people that use brave or firefox
Intresting analysis
This channel keep trying push me to use bing
only reason i dont use it is because it doesnt have a built in dark mode that i can find, absolutely would use it if it had one but it doesnt on desktop version for some reason, annoying as shit
I use Ecosia which isn’t actually good but at least I am contributing to a really good cause.
Search engine is good and all but we also need a video platform that can compete youtube.
I just got access to the Bing chat bot and it's lowk fire for research
This is a law of diminishing returns issue. If bing scaled to Google's size it wouldn't be as profitable per user .
Chome added update in which it saves ram by closing background tabs .
if only they didnt abandon the microsoft phones. i really liked the idea and hoped they worked on it and made it efficient and supported their mobile microsoft store too
I still have not checked if bing still has that stupid limitations. Im ok with them making the rules more strict. But I search A LOT,and 50 chat limit is just not it. Anyways limit or not, I'm still using bing over Google.
Edit:did my bing reddit scroll and found out that they are planning to improve bing this week.
I mean there is a feature where bing chat can examine an entire pdf of a book and can give you a summary or answer any question about the pdf. So I am pretty sure the limit is no where near 50 characters
@@andrewsamuels77 you misunderstood me, what i mean to say is that each day you cannot ask more than 50 questions. It means after you have asked bing chat 50 questions. You cannot ask it anymore.
@@applyinggaming9529 oh ok.
i think you can just make a new chat box?
if bing would just add a jump to search feature keyboard shortcut
Good old duckduckgo, nothing could be better than that!
Yeah but it uses Bing in the background. Almost all search engine that's not Google, uses Bing in the background with their own UI in front
The first thing I think of when I hear "bing", is Chandler Bing 😆
I've been using Bing since 2014, good shit
A narrow, economic analysis of Google Search's profit/loss ratio does not capture the value that Alphabet gets from owning and running it.
That’s true
+1 subscriber here.
I hope bing dominates Google’s ego over time, although not off to a good start with the 5 question chat limit recently I hope they quickly reverse that
How do I sign up for the new BING??
being a developer that constantly having multiple tabs while working, I'd actually prefer using Edge over Chrome as it feels much lighter than the later
Bing does pay me so I am a rare unicorn user that switches between those two now and then :)
Got to renew my Ultimate :D
Bing made a insane comeback
I really dislike what Google is doing in its search algorithm. I switched to Bing as my primary search engine three years ago. More often than not Bing gets the results I need and shows more results that are relevant to the subject I'm looking for than Google. Google has a tendency to show results that are more related to commercialization, i.e. results that as to do with marketing and selling items that are (or might be) related to the subject being searched. In short, as a search engine Bing is what Google used to be: a search engine, whereas Google is now more like an advertisement site.
I have a been a moderate fan boy of Microsoft but I enjoy seeing Bing and Edge starting to seen as more popular rather than just unknowingly better.
Using edge for 2yrs now. Its my default browser now. Faster and less resource hungry than chrome
Bing is like the better, underrated sibling compared to Google.
Im in the list and started using new bing. Honestly its pretty good
I actually choose to use Bing. While I'm not a fan of Microsoft, I have found Bing's search results to be much more accurate and relevant. Google's search results seem to have more to do with popularity.
well i used to use chrome but soon as edge moved over to chomium i used edge every since its faster better and allows me to be lazy when installing a windows operating system as its there installed i just gotta open it up log in and all my stuff is here including chrome addons and now this bing AI im super hyped for the new edge update that is in the dev build rn that allows you to use bing AI anywhere any time on the edge browser
Just imagine chat gpt inside the windows search, that would be so cool
Or ChatGPT on Cortana/Siri
I actually use Edge more now. It’s such a better browser. Similar to how outlook is actually a better email app compared to gmail. Microsoft is relentless at making marginal improvements. I feel Chrome has stalled significantly.
Agree. People laugh at the Microsoft service because anything that involves money is unethical, the same reason we must use privacy-preserving services and fight for free-as-in-freedom search engines and similar services.
I switched to Bing just a year back and i feel for what i have missed! Unique
anyone remember AltaVista?
yet still has no night mode on the desktop version of the web
Bing gives you a closer to answer towhat your looking for unlike google giving you a bunch of ads
Wouuld be much nicer Microsoft call the new chatgpt powered search enginne Cortana. As its in Windows and Halo franchises. Also its functionalities should be included in Windows as Cortana search bar, imagine it much better
Imagine Microsoft turning edge into the portal to the internet....
I used to be a Firefox/Chrome user, but recently switched to Edge and recently started using Bing because it was better integrated with windows as well as being faster and giving better battery life. New Bing is something that will probably keep me on Bing for a while. (By the way, love your videos, keep up the good work!)
Revenue/user is only half the story, what about profit/user? Growing through bribes hits the bottom line, which is what ultimately matters.
That said, Bing does look to be making interesting moves. Nice work covering its business and demographics.