Imo Apple should create a function that you can contact the owner, so he can decide to unlock it or whatever. Like just a button on the iCloud-locked device that sends an auto-generated mail to the owner (like "Hey, should your iPad be unlinked from your account? (location and time of request etc.)) But Apple won't do that so they can force people to buy new hardware
@@vetrixfx9264 Around 2012-2013 ish Mcaffee (yes the antivirus company) offered a similar service to iCloud locks to Android phone manufacturers, a couple Sony models used it and that's about it I think. They would print the original owner's email in clear and literally told you to email them to get some code off them. Probably was useless in practice, doubt the owner would ever remember the code, but it's pretty funny how they did it nevertheless.
@@sys-administrator like what I meant is that you don't see the mail. Just a button which auto-sends one for you, without exposing the address of the owner. I think Steam does this with keys that are already activated, but can be transferred to your account, if the current owner agrees
Yes, iCloud lock really sucks.The EU will go after Apple for using a lightning connector instead of USB C. Their justification being they think the lightning connector contributes to e-waste. Whether I agree or disagree, next to nothing contributes more to e-waste than the iCloud lock situation. Don't ever forget your Apple password or you're SOL. And it's easy to forget the Apple password when you're an Android user. The reason I had an Apple password was for an iPod. Google and Amazon never made an MP3 player so I went with Apple. Yes, there's no Kindle shuffle and Apple's been doing this iCloud lockdown crap even on ipods.
Glad to hear you got one of the iPads working! You can remove the home button from the original display and swap the two home buttons, so that the working iPad still has Touch ID (home buttons are a paired component). As for the other iPads, the ones with failed NAND can still be recovered for any other parts that might be working, and the same goes for the iCloud locked ones. Unless the school in question can contact the students who used the iPads, there's not really any way of removing iCloud locks - which is why I tend to steer clear of iPads, in case any device I'm trying to look at has the same issue.
iCloud locked devices can be unlocked by contacting Apple, though you would need the invoice where you bought the devices from and then wipe the device.
@@0w3nn apparently that doesn’t work anymore, a friend who works at Apple told me that now they actually contact the place of purchase :( I still plan to try it though
Schools should check every iPad/Laptop when a student is bringing back a device. If locked into their own personal iCloud or broken they should pay for the repairs
i think they do not loose much from keeping the ipads up, and are able to give each student a new one. but watching this from a country where students are still carrying a bag full of books, sports uniform and food every day....damn..even i am still using an ipad mini 1 for books, while they throw pros away like some kind of waste while mumbling something about ecology
@@EmirFaruk the best thing about an old device is that you do not worry that much about it. i use it without a case or glass, which makes it insanely light and small, and when i work i can just leave it anywhere since stealing it is just like stealing a loaf of bread
Having worked at a school district, we didn't actually care. Even if it was iCloud locked, the iPads were bought directly from Apple, their serial numbers were associated to our organisation and were added to our Apple Configurator, so we could simply connect it to a MacBook Pro, unlock it and give it back. Why those ones were trashed is probably a lot simpler : they're old. We had to replace them every 5 years for security stuff, if they're iPad Pro 2017, they're 5 years old, so it was simply time to replace them.
Same here. I paid $750 for mine with 256gb of storage. The new iPads pale in comparison to the bang for buck I got in 2017. The fact they don’t have pro motion yet is absurd. I’ll upgrade this device when Apple no longer supports it.
@@terrorrbabbletwoI thought about getting that iPad but i did not because I read there were reports of white spots on the display. I Really like that 2017 iPad Pro but at this point in time, I think the 9th gen is a better buy. Tried out the pro and non pro ipads at BestBuy and I could not tell the difference in Promotion and non promotion displays unless i scrolled the 2 ipads together. Promotion is not a big deal to me in the overall experience and i dont notice anything different when using different a non promotion iPad. I was hoping the iPad Air could at least get Promotion.
I still use mine and it's great but Apple's complete ignorance when it comes to the fact those have a factory defect displays is just bad, both touch issues and white spots, most have this like the issue macbooks had at least those sold in such numbers they acknowledged it.
Yeah just getting the old one onto the new one. Elliot from the retro future did the same mistake on an iPhone restoration, it’s pretty simple to do and most people just ignore it I don’t know why
@Cry-0 ive done it before on absolutely obliterated screens and they worked, and some just have small cracks and dont, its usually just you need ti be carefull, and sometimes stuff is already broken
This is the kind of e-waste Apple should be focused on, not chargers and cables. Combine serialized components with soldered parts and one failure leads to a pricey paperweight. Given the battery and rare metals used, I'd say these dead devices are more environmentally hazardous than chargers and cables.
Creating e-waste because of iCloud lock is such a shame by Apple. Companies spend more money and research n greenwashing than on making products actually green.
I disagree, the school needs to make sure the students unlock it. iCloud locking deters people from stealing your stuff (not all the time) ~ but it’s an excellent security measure
I work at an electronics store in europe and the amount of perfectly fine smartphones / tablets people throw away locked with icloud / google / samsung ID makes me sick. Just the other day there was a fully functioning iphone XR in the bin, locked. I don't know, but i just hate seeing things like this go to waste.
Hey Psivewri, it is not extremely impossible to swap home buttons. All you need is lot of patience. I made a working iPad Pro out of two broken iPad Pros. One had defective Nand and other had extremely mangled case+broken screen. I had to carefully do the swap of motherboard+main camera+touch id. It took me 2 days with 3-4 hours of each work time. I had to have a lot of patience.
When I worked in the eCommerce department at my local Goodwill, iCloud locks were by far the most common reason for us to throw out or set aside an i-device for parts. We had entire stacks of locked devices
Haha, I remember Android tablets that have even less memory than that! In one of the local shops to my work, someone was trying to buy a cheap Android tablet and the store owner was explaining to them that the Android OS version (Android 4) was far too old for any apps to install properly, if at all. That's like trying to use a stock Samsung Galaxy S4 in 2022, a 9 year old device...
Apple really need to provide users with a way to unlock or reset ICloud locked devices (even if it involves plugging it into a Mac or PC and using a tool, which imo would make a lot of sense). They can't even make a security argument because 95% of the ICloud locked devices on the market are second hand, so the original owners have long since stopped using them. But, hey, if it gets people to buy their new products, who cares what happens to the old ones.
@@lummatravel if your phone gets lost or stolen, it’s something you don’t notice immediately, so if there is a window, thieves will get into it. As is, right now there is no incentive to steal it. And if you are selling your device you can unlock it. The school shouldn’t take back devices that aren’t removed from student’s iCloud.
@@sloppynyuszi that's not what I'm saying. You should still have the option to remotely disable and blacklist a stolen device to make theft pointless. But there should be a way to remove the iCloud lock from devices that haven't been stolen. The people who have the accounts on these iPads literally don't care if someone uses the device. I even worked for a company where an iPad was iCloud locked to a previous employee who'd been fired and we couldn't unlock it without her permission.
Yeah, should be able for schools and the like to set those up within some sort of network around a master key account. I also hope their broken devices are part of Apple's trade in service for free recycling.
No, absolutely not - iCloud lock has been one of the best things to ever happen to device theft. Stolen iPhones are worth far less when there's no way to recover them, making theft in general much less worthwhile and thus much less frequent. It's absurd to act as if the only point is to get people to buy new products. This is literally the whole point of the feature - if they allowed iCloud lock to be bypassed, why would iCloud lock even exist in the first place?
The white screen with black home button was a third party display repair with keeping Touch ID from the original home button. You could do this same thing with the iPad you fixed to restore Touch ID functionality.
Yeah, I've been looking into getting a replacement screen for a trashpicked iPad I ended up with recently, and sometimes either the black or the white ones will be sold out. Clearly someone didn't want to wait.
Pro tip: wear gloves when removing adhered glass. 1 - the glass can cut you, 2 - a glass shared can come off and go inside of you. I made this mistake once and never again. A shard of glass flew off and went under my finger, I was lucky enough that I was able to pull it out all in one piece.
That's like the bank I used to work for. They would do laptop or desktop upgrades for the employees and decommission the older ones which were later picked up by the same company that would go and empty the recycle bins. Pretty wasteful especially since most of them worked, they could just have given them away to the employees who wanted them. I took two of them on different occasions since I worked within the IT dept and they work great.
If only these classrooms would have a last day to reset all these iPads and have the students follow along with the teacher so they can reuse these them for years to come. Good job man on giving it your all. Shame iCloud lock is still on many of these.
For the iCloud locked ipads there is a possibility to change the SN with special tools and software and set them up like they were never locked at all. As for the ipads with NAND issues it's fixable by microsoldering but very costly
3:33 the reason why the screen and home button are mismatched is because someone at one point probably replaced the screen. The home button/Touch ID is paired to the logic board, and replacing it to match the screen would cause the Touch ID not to work.
My 3rd gen iPad Mini still looks perfect, it's a shame to see expensive iPad Pros subjected to that much damage and for so many to have NAND failures as well.
For the last ipad combination, if you change the touch id from one to the other one it should work perfectly. In my opinion it isn't an easy fix but could be worth the try
Strange that schools dont have somesort of iPad enrollment system where u won't need an iCloud or Apple ID to install apps or push updates... (something like JamF)
Some do! I got an iPad a school was throwing out because it had a shattered screen, and it's locked down using JamF so I can't do much of anything with it besides surf the internet and use the apps they'd already installed. They even have a delay on system updates, by like a few weeks.
i would suggest you remove the original home button from the old display and put it with the other one. so u have touch id since they are paired to each device. just a heads up :)
This video reminds me of when my school was throwing out some 2017 hp chromebook 11a's since some say: "This is the last software and security updates for this chromebook....". Since the librarian was throwing some out for ewaste, i combined 2 broken ones into one that works to this day. Since it wont update, i plan on installing linux mint to use on it
Hey mate love your video’s I’ve been watching them for 2 years now and they’ve really been helpful for me as a 13 year old who has been learning how to fix computers keep it up (:
My first mac experience was getting one of those old cube ones from a lot of tossed computers from a school it was such a fun experience to give a functional computer more life
in Italy what belongs to the schools must be disposed of according to certain bureaucratic rules, for example donated to charities, if you give away properties abandoned by the school to private individuals you can be arrested.
Only in Italy…….seems like too many of the Mediterranean countries have their heads up their coulas as well. Many school systems in the USA will sell off obsolete stock to help fund the purchase of new devices.
Only in Italy…….seems like too many of the Mediterranean countries have their heads up their coulas as well. Many school systems in the USA will sell off obsolete stock to help fund the purchase of new devices.
I believe you can ask your friend who works at the school to give you the receipts of the iPads. Pretty sure they do keep them for record purposes. Those can let you gain access to iCloud locked iPads through apple.
Can Apple also undo "managed by your organization"? Because I got a bunch of tossed-out iPads from a school, and none of them are iCloud locked but most of them are restricted-use which includes not being able to do a factory reset. The person who works there claims she "removed it" remotely from her computer but it didn't actually do anything so I think she just did the equivalent of destroying the key while the door was still locked. And she's too busy to hunt down the info on how to fix it. And it all seems to involve third-party security stuff, but if Apple can remotely disable iCloud lock, maybe they could also remotely force a factory reset too?
I believe you again have to show proof to Apple that the school no longer wants the iPads. Yes every iPad needs to have a receipt. The school should’ve bought them in bulk so it’s just a piece of paper. And for that matter you need to ask the school for the receipt. If they don’t have it or no longer have it… then you’re outta luck. ONLY APPLE CAN REMOVE ICLOUD LOCK and as for the school settings… have you tried to boot to recovery mode and then try to restore?
@@stevethepocket No, you can reset any iPad in restore mode with iTunes, regardless of Apple ID. If they actually released the iPad from Apple School Manager, it would set up normally. If not, it will either require the iCloud owner to log in or enroll itself back into whatever MDM it's assigned.
What's the point of having the student return the ipad if they don't even bother to make certain they remove their icloud from the device? It's essentially a brick for the school to end up throwing away later on.
There's a guy (LaserBear) who repurposes old iPad screens as high-res mini-monitors; LGR did a video on it recently. For now they're only using the 2048×1536 screens, but as the bigger ones from the Pro and 2019+ iPads become more widely available, I imagine they'll start making a slightly larger size, so you might want to get in touch and see if they'd be interested in your completely-busted iPads.
You could've also transplanted the home button for a fully working iPad. Great video nonetheless. Apple really needs to do something about iCloud locks creating so much ewaste...
My school district approaches this the right way imo - they give us all iPads but they are all MDM locked (getting the App Store alone involved asking specifically for it and agreeing to some academic honesty policy) and they can bypass iCloud lock through MSM reset (iirc they sell the old devices to the MSP which sells them off to refurbishers). The iPads get a second life and iCloud locks aren’t an issue…
Schools where I live also provide this, or rather, they provide very cheap, underperforming tablets. I wonder if any school near me would at all offer to get rid of their e-waste like this instead of throwing it away. One day I asked my own and they just refused, and I ended up sneaking an old PS/2 keyboard inside my backpack lol Also, I got this Samsung Galaxy Tab E, it refuses to charge, no LED lights up, and I don't have the tools to pry it open and check what is wrong. It's my mum's old device, it worked just fine but she got a new phone and we left the tablet unused for a good while. Would leaving it charging for a few hours help bring it back to life?
leaving it charged overnight can be a possibility of the device turning on but if it doesn't try removing the back cover if it has a removable battery (probably not) and remove it and plug a charger into it and see if it turns on (probably not) if those don't work then a last ditch attempt is to try "jumpstarting" it idk how the battery pins are on this model but on my 2012 nexus 7 you could follow a tutorial (old usb cable) and directly charge the battery without it going thru the normal way
@@WaltuhD those galaxy tab es have the typical samsung flat pin connector, so jumpstarting isn't very easy unless you're precise. the USB port however is a main point of failure, because it's not braced to the frame in any way and will simply tear itself free from the board given the chance. they're quite simple to work on though, because the entire back case comes off to reveal *everything*.
I got 42 ipads from iPad mini iPad 4 and iPad Air from a private school. Most was icloud locked and remote controlled by a company. I contacted the company and told them i got em for free told them the serial number and they did remove them ipads after contacting the school. And once i restored them again i got 38 ipads to work great. That was awesome
Sounds like the school learned the hard way to use MDM. FYI you can get a device un-iCloud-locked by Apple if you can provide proof of purchase. Iy requires wiping the device, so you'll lose whatever is on there, but overall it would be usable again. Device locked is another story. You need the Apple ID or MDM to fix that. All of this can be avoided by an MDM tool on an device linked to the Apple Business Manager (used for schools too).
My old school closed down not that long ago, all pcs and projectors were still in there but sadly someone set it alight. about 2 weeks ago they fully demolished the building pretty sad way for the technology to go :(
I once found a first gen iPad Mini in a box in the back room of my house. It was registered to a school somewhere, and funnily enough, I guessed its PIN first try. :D After doing that, I deleted their provisioning profile and took it as my own. It's in very good condition aside from a few scratches on the screen, and the battery has 137 charging cycles as of writing this. It seems to have been in use between 2015 and 2016, then forgotten about from then on, and I found it in 2019.
I hate to say that, these students didn't learn a basic lesson in their life, value for money and respect for what you have at your disposal. God forbid, Some time when they can't afford the same things in their lives ahead, they'll understand how much more than money these things were worth of.
Yep. Can concur. I work in school IT support. Almost every week, we have to replace damaged/lost keys on Chromebooks. Kids like to pick them off and often times, the teachers have no idea who did it. The kids don't care about it.
Short answer: You can’t Long answer: You can do iCloud “bypass” on old devices like those 10.5” Pro to trick the iPad into thinking that you are the genuine owner, but you can’t use all the features and the device does not operate stably.
I wonder if the touch ID home button can be transplanted too? The failed NANDs iPad can be revived by actually replacing their nand chips then reprogramming them.
Too bad you can't erase them to remove the iCloud lock. Android tablets wouldn't have this problem. I don't like Apple because they don't share their OS (license them) with manufacturers the way Google does with Android. Also, they don't make their apps cross-platform on Android and iOS is not compatible with Windows whereas Android is. I don't like Apple's walled garden approach where they lock everything down and limit their software to just their device
It’s a problem for sure but that would also have the negative effect that then your phone can be stolen and just remove the iCloud lock what they should do is ping the account holder to request to remove the iCloud account if the device has been bought by someone else
I have a 3rd - or 4th gen idk for sure, I know it's the first one to use the retina display and lightning port - iPad that's a little bit sad, unfortunately. It's only issue is the screen which is unresponsive, however it fires up and displays image. Will try to fix it in the near future.
That's sad that the school couldn't manage their hardware and required them to be unlocked when turned back on. For all that effort, they should just let the student keep them.
the original home button from ipad number 11 can be harvested and replace the home button attached from the good lcd glass that you've transfered to number 11. (If the original homebutton of number 11 is still good)
i dont get how people can treat a device that badly. i have my ipad since 2017 and i dont have a single scratch on it. Everything works fine and im carrying it with me everyday for Work and UNI
I’ve used this type if I-pad for 7 years now and I never knew it could turn out this bad this I-pad has been working fine for years I can’t believe they could be destroyed like that wow
At my uni we can borrow iPads but we have to sign a form to show that gives us liability and iCloud is disabled and we have to reset it in front of them.
hey, just wanted to let you know all of these models have working setupapp bypasses with silver (on mac) or f3arra1n (on windows). might be more interesting than letting them rot away
i think my other reply might have gotten filtered. ios devices before the a11 chip can be bypassed, you can check r/setupapp for help (cant link the exploit db directly since youtube filters it). if you want to remove icloud off of newer models or have it persist between updates you will have to obtain a reprint of the receipt from the retailer and unlock it through apple though
I did support for a large company before we got an MDM system. We had to register every phone and iPad with Apple. Anytime we needed an iCloud unlocked, it was filling out a pdf form and sending emails back and forth. And then after, required you to wipe the device again (I guess the device checks only one time on first connect to WiFi?). So annoying.
you need to swap the home button from the old screen to the new one as its paired to the motherboard also for the icloud locked ipads you can get an irepair p10 box and flash a new serial to the ipad that way they can still be used also for the ones with nand errors try a dfu restore in 3u tools or itunes
It is quite easy to transfer the home button between screens to retain touch id, also the icloud locked devices can be bypassed using a checkra1n jailbreak which will bypass the activation and bring back most functionality
@@YoshiCHEEP oh i thought my brother downloaded it for me because i liked the one on his ipad cuz when i got my ipad it had an album for a screen and yea
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Schools should bring a mail for each student and manage iCloud once the student is done on the center.
Imo Apple should create a function that you can contact the owner, so he can decide to unlock it or whatever. Like just a button on the iCloud-locked device that sends an auto-generated mail to the owner (like "Hey, should your iPad be unlinked from your account? (location and time of request etc.))
But Apple won't do that so they can force people to buy new hardware
@@vetrixfx9264 Around 2012-2013 ish Mcaffee (yes the antivirus company) offered a similar service to iCloud locks to Android phone manufacturers, a couple Sony models used it and that's about it I think. They would print the original owner's email in clear and literally told you to email them to get some code off them. Probably was useless in practice, doubt the owner would ever remember the code, but it's pretty funny how they did it nevertheless.
@@sys-administrator like what I meant is that you don't see the mail. Just a button which auto-sends one for you, without exposing the address of the owner. I think Steam does this with keys that are already activated, but can be transferred to your account, if the current owner agrees
That's why Chromebooks are so popular in schools.
Yes, iCloud lock really sucks.The EU will go after Apple for using a lightning connector instead of USB C. Their justification being they think the lightning connector contributes to e-waste. Whether I agree or disagree, next to nothing contributes more to e-waste than the iCloud lock situation. Don't ever forget your Apple password or you're SOL. And it's easy to forget the Apple password when you're an Android user. The reason I had an Apple password was for an iPod. Google and Amazon never made an MP3 player so I went with Apple. Yes, there's no Kindle shuffle and Apple's been doing this iCloud lockdown crap even on ipods.
Glad to hear you got one of the iPads working! You can remove the home button from the original display and swap the two home buttons, so that the working iPad still has Touch ID (home buttons are a paired component).
As for the other iPads, the ones with failed NAND can still be recovered for any other parts that might be working, and the same goes for the iCloud locked ones. Unless the school in question can contact the students who used the iPads, there's not really any way of removing iCloud locks - which is why I tend to steer clear of iPads, in case any device I'm trying to look at has the same issue.
iCloud locked devices can be unlocked by contacting Apple, though you would need the invoice where you bought the devices from and then wipe the device.
@@reazlho I used a fake receipt maker and it actually worked, watching this video on the iPhone 5s just fine
@@0w3nn that's crazy
@@0w3nn Pls tell me where u got it from bro.
@@0w3nn apparently that doesn’t work anymore, a friend who works at Apple told me that now they actually contact the place of purchase :( I still plan to try it though
Schools should check every iPad/Laptop when a student is bringing back a device. If locked into their own personal iCloud or broken they should pay for the repairs
i think they do not loose much from keeping the ipads up, and are able to give each student a new one. but watching this from a country where students are still carrying a bag full of books, sports uniform and food every day....damn..even i am still using an ipad mini 1 for books, while they throw pros away like some kind of waste while mumbling something about ecology
@@straightwarlock5341 i still use ipad mini 1 too for my pdfs and books! Its slow but still useful
@@straightwarlock5341 same here in east europa we have only mini laptops on Windows 10 and its only used in school you cant bring it home
@@EmirFaruk the best thing about an old device is that you do not worry that much about it. i use it without a case or glass, which makes it insanely light and small, and when i work i can just leave it anywhere since stealing it is just like stealing a loaf of bread
Having worked at a school district, we didn't actually care. Even if it was iCloud locked, the iPads were bought directly from Apple, their serial numbers were associated to our organisation and were added to our Apple Configurator, so we could simply connect it to a MacBook Pro, unlock it and give it back. Why those ones were trashed is probably a lot simpler : they're old. We had to replace them every 5 years for security stuff, if they're iPad Pro 2017, they're 5 years old, so it was simply time to replace them.
The 10.5" iPad Pro is a great machine. Still have and use mine since 2017. With ProMotion and running iPadOS 16 it really feels like a modern device.
Same here. I paid $750 for mine with 256gb of storage. The new iPads pale in comparison to the bang for buck I got in 2017. The fact they don’t have pro motion yet is absurd. I’ll upgrade this device when Apple no longer supports it.
@@terrorrbabbletwo even then you can get 1-2 more years outta it. still using ipad Air. yea the first one :D
@@terrorrbabbletwoI thought about getting that iPad but i did not because I read there were reports of white spots on the display. I Really like that 2017 iPad Pro but at this point in time, I think the 9th gen is a better buy. Tried out the pro and non pro ipads at BestBuy and I could not tell the difference in Promotion and non promotion displays unless i scrolled the 2 ipads together. Promotion is not a big deal to me in the overall experience and i dont notice anything different when using different a non promotion iPad. I was hoping the iPad Air could at least get Promotion.
I still use mine and it's great but Apple's complete ignorance when it comes to the fact those have a factory defect displays is just bad, both touch issues and white spots, most have this like the issue macbooks had at least those sold in such numbers they acknowledged it.
You should also use the original home button for Touch ID if you want to resell the iPad
Yeah just getting the old one onto the new one. Elliot from the retro future did the same mistake on an iPhone restoration, it’s pretty simple to do and most people just ignore it I don’t know why
@@tetenc555 Its so fragile lmao, removing it from a cracked or shattered display is pain in the ass
a single tear and boom, no touch ID
@Cry-0 ive done it before on absolutely obliterated screens and they worked, and some just have small cracks and dont, its usually just you need ti be carefull, and sometimes stuff is already broken
Nobody is buying really old ipads
@@303Thatoneguy I mean I do
This is the kind of e-waste Apple should be focused on, not chargers and cables. Combine serialized components with soldered parts and one failure leads to a pricey paperweight. Given the battery and rare metals used, I'd say these dead devices are more environmentally hazardous than chargers and cables.
Creating e-waste because of iCloud lock is such a shame by Apple. Companies spend more money and research n greenwashing than on making products actually green.
I disagree, the school needs to make sure the students unlock it.
iCloud locking deters people from stealing your stuff (not all the time) ~ but it’s an excellent security measure
I work at an electronics store in europe and the amount of perfectly fine smartphones / tablets people throw away locked with icloud / google / samsung ID makes me sick. Just the other day there was a fully functioning iphone XR in the bin, locked. I don't know, but i just hate seeing things like this go to waste.
Hey Psivewri, it is not extremely impossible to swap home buttons. All you need is lot of patience. I made a working iPad Pro out of two broken iPad Pros. One had defective Nand and other had extremely mangled case+broken screen. I had to carefully do the swap of motherboard+main camera+touch id. It took me 2 days with 3-4 hours of each work time. I had to have a lot of patience.
When I worked in the eCommerce department at my local Goodwill, iCloud locks were by far the most common reason for us to throw out or set aside an i-device for parts. We had entire stacks of locked devices
that is so unlucky. is there no way at all to salvage them? once theyre locked, theyre locked forever?
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@@aelie8198 Apple can unlock devices for people that can provide proof of ownership, but they don't offer that to organizations, AFAIK
@@aelie8198 That's the point for thieves
@@Coolie-ds4tu No, it's just Apple's way of making it more difficult to re-use their devices. Don't fall for their marketing scams.
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Meanwhile My school - tying to keep a 2gb ram old android tablet to save Money LOL
meanwhile my school confiscate my laptop because I need it for computer science
Haha, I remember Android tablets that have even less memory than that! In one of the local shops to my work, someone was trying to buy a cheap Android tablet and the store owner was explaining to them that the Android OS version (Android 4) was far too old for any apps to install properly, if at all.
That's like trying to use a stock Samsung Galaxy S4 in 2022, a 9 year old device...
@@cheemsdoge977 Bruh
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Apple really need to provide users with a way to unlock or reset ICloud locked devices (even if it involves plugging it into a Mac or PC and using a tool, which imo would make a lot of sense). They can't even make a security argument because 95% of the ICloud locked devices on the market are second hand, so the original owners have long since stopped using them. But, hey, if it gets people to buy their new products, who cares what happens to the old ones.
If the iPad isn't reported stolen, then there's no justification for being unable to remove iCloud from an otherwise working device
@@lummatravel if your phone gets lost or stolen, it’s something you don’t notice immediately, so if there is a window, thieves will get into it.
As is, right now there is no incentive to steal it. And if you are selling your device you can unlock it.
The school shouldn’t take back devices that aren’t removed from student’s iCloud.
@@sloppynyuszi that's not what I'm saying. You should still have the option to remotely disable and blacklist a stolen device to make theft pointless. But there should be a way to remove the iCloud lock from devices that haven't been stolen. The people who have the accounts on these iPads literally don't care if someone uses the device.
I even worked for a company where an iPad was iCloud locked to a previous employee who'd been fired and we couldn't unlock it without her permission.
Yeah, should be able for schools and the like to set those up within some sort of network around a master key account. I also hope their broken devices are part of Apple's trade in service for free recycling.
No, absolutely not - iCloud lock has been one of the best things to ever happen to device theft. Stolen iPhones are worth far less when there's no way to recover them, making theft in general much less worthwhile and thus much less frequent. It's absurd to act as if the only point is to get people to buy new products. This is literally the whole point of the feature - if they allowed iCloud lock to be bypassed, why would iCloud lock even exist in the first place?
The white screen with black home button was a third party display repair with keeping Touch ID from the original home button. You could do this same thing with the iPad you fixed to restore Touch ID functionality.
Yeah, I've been looking into getting a replacement screen for a trashpicked iPad I ended up with recently, and sometimes either the black or the white ones will be sold out. Clearly someone didn't want to wait.
Pro tip: wear gloves when removing adhered glass. 1 - the glass can cut you, 2 - a glass shared can come off and go inside of you. I made this mistake once and never again. A shard of glass flew off and went under my finger, I was lucky enough that I was able to pull it out all in one piece.
So you know, glass will always work its way out of skin; metal will do the opposite.
That's like the bank I used to work for. They would do laptop or desktop upgrades for the employees and decommission the older ones which were later picked up by the same company that would go and empty the recycle bins. Pretty wasteful especially since most of them worked, they could just have given them away to the employees who wanted them. I took two of them on different occasions since I worked within the IT dept and they work great.
Ur so lucky I'm in need of one rn
Man, I should really ask my school about those useless 4k TVS they installed at the assembly
Lmaooo
@MrLegirtagel ikr
What i learned in this video go dumpster diving in rich schools
To get Touch ID back on the working one, just move the home button from the old screen to the new one.
If only these classrooms would have a last day to reset all these iPads and have the students follow along with the teacher so they can reuse these them for years to come. Good job man on giving it your all. Shame iCloud lock is still on many of these.
For the iCloud locked ipads there is a possibility to change the SN with special tools and software and set them up like they were never locked at all. As for the ipads with NAND issues it's fixable by microsoldering but very costly
3:33 the reason why the screen and home button are mismatched is because someone at one point probably replaced the screen. The home button/Touch ID is paired to the logic board, and replacing it to match the screen would cause the Touch ID not to work.
Swap the home buttons to fix the fingerprint error. Use B7000 adhesive on the bracket. Leave for 12 hours before use. Sorted
My 3rd gen iPad Mini still looks perfect, it's a shame to see expensive iPad Pros subjected to that much damage and for so many to have NAND failures as well.
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For the last ipad combination, if you change the touch id from one to the other one it should work perfectly. In my opinion it isn't an easy fix but could be worth the try
They're paired by serial number, just like the IPhones, it won't work.
Strange that schools dont have somesort of iPad enrollment system where u won't need an iCloud or Apple ID to install apps or push updates...
(something like JamF)
Some do! I got an iPad a school was throwing out because it had a shattered screen, and it's locked down using JamF so I can't do much of anything with it besides surf the internet and use the apps they'd already installed. They even have a delay on system updates, by like a few weeks.
@@stevethepocket Oh yeah, it sure relies on the settings set in JamF. The iDevice will only be fully yours if they remove it from JamF...
4:35 if that was from a teen with access to the internet I would have never touch that without wearing a hazmat suit
If the school is the original purchaser they should be able to provide apple the serial number and they will remove it. You should contact your buddy.
It is so stupid to throw out working computers.
i would suggest you remove the original home button from the old display and put it with the other one. so u have touch id since they are paired to each device. just a heads up :)
This video reminds me of when my school was throwing out some 2017 hp chromebook 11a's since some say: "This is the last software and security updates for this chromebook....". Since the librarian was throwing some out for ewaste, i combined 2 broken ones into one that works to this day. Since it wont update, i plan on installing linux mint to use on it
Hey mate love your video’s I’ve been watching them for 2 years now and they’ve really been helpful for me as a 13 year old who has been learning how to fix computers keep it up (:
Where I live in Australia there isn’t much e-waste that’s the only downside
That’s awesome!
Are these iCloud locked devices essentially bricked or can they be restored ?
Android user myself but cant stop watching these repair videos!
My first mac experience was getting one of those old cube ones from a lot of tossed computers from a school it was such a fun experience to give a functional computer more life
For the iCloud locked ones, you can use checkm8, a bootrom vulnerability available on
in Italy what belongs to the schools must be disposed of according to certain bureaucratic rules, for example donated to charities, if you give away properties abandoned by the school to private individuals you can be arrested.
Only in Italy…….seems like too many of the Mediterranean countries have their heads up their coulas as well. Many school systems in the USA will sell off obsolete stock to help fund the purchase of new devices.
Only in Italy…….seems like too many of the Mediterranean countries have their heads up their coulas as well. Many school systems in the USA will sell off obsolete stock to help fund the purchase of new devices.
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Great video!!!! Those icloud iPads are a shame.
iCloud Can Be Great…
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At least they salvageable for parts.
logic board isn't really salvageable, you can probably get rid of the iCloud lock and resell the iPad on eBay
I believe you can ask your friend who works at the school to give you the receipts of the iPads. Pretty sure they do keep them for record purposes. Those can let you gain access to iCloud locked iPads through apple.
Can Apple also undo "managed by your organization"? Because I got a bunch of tossed-out iPads from a school, and none of them are iCloud locked but most of them are restricted-use which includes not being able to do a factory reset. The person who works there claims she "removed it" remotely from her computer but it didn't actually do anything so I think she just did the equivalent of destroying the key while the door was still locked. And she's too busy to hunt down the info on how to fix it. And it all seems to involve third-party security stuff, but if Apple can remotely disable iCloud lock, maybe they could also remotely force a factory reset too?
I believe you again have to show proof to Apple that the school no longer wants the iPads. Yes every iPad needs to have a receipt. The school should’ve bought them in bulk so it’s just a piece of paper. And for that matter you need to ask the school for the receipt. If they don’t have it or no longer have it… then you’re outta luck. ONLY APPLE CAN REMOVE ICLOUD LOCK and as for the school settings… have you tried to boot to recovery mode and then try to restore?
@@stevethepocket you can still reset it with iTunes, just put the iPad into restore mode.
@@user-bz8rw7dc4f I assume that only works if iTunes is already set up with the same Apple ID as the one associated with the device?
@@stevethepocket No, you can reset any iPad in restore mode with iTunes, regardless of Apple ID.
If they actually released the iPad from Apple School Manager, it would set up normally.
If not, it will either require the iCloud owner to log in or enroll itself back into whatever MDM it's assigned.
What's the point of having the student return the ipad if they don't even bother to make certain they remove their icloud from the device? It's essentially a brick for the school to end up throwing away later on.
I'm old enough to have hard time imagining consept of getting an iPad from school.
It kind of sucks because of restricted use
Have you looked into jailbreaking the iPads with iCloud lock and bypassing them?
iPad Pro 10.5 is still great, shame to see them in such state :(
The school did not use MDM management properly, if properly provisioned they could have avoided them being iCloud locked
I love the fact that you took your time to explain everything into details
My school threw away 100 chromebooks, some fucntioning well most others with small issues such as battery or screen. and a few with major issues.
There's a guy (LaserBear) who repurposes old iPad screens as high-res mini-monitors; LGR did a video on it recently. For now they're only using the 2048×1536 screens, but as the bigger ones from the Pro and 2019+ iPads become more widely available, I imagine they'll start making a slightly larger size, so you might want to get in touch and see if they'd be interested in your completely-busted iPads.
The mini monitor idea sounds good, do u know youtube adrs? Thanx
The touch ID button can be transferred from one screen to another...
You could've also transplanted the home button for a fully working iPad. Great video nonetheless. Apple really needs to do something about iCloud locks creating so much ewaste...
Looks like a lot of work and pretty delicate to remove the button in hindsight.
@@psivewri It’s actually pretty easy if you heat it up and use isopropyl alcohol to loosen the adhesive
My school district approaches this the right way imo - they give us all iPads but they are all MDM locked (getting the App Store alone involved asking specifically for it and agreeing to some academic honesty policy) and they can bypass iCloud lock through MSM reset (iirc they sell the old devices to the MSP which sells them off to refurbishers). The iPads get a second life and iCloud locks aren’t an issue…
Is driving me crazy that you didnt put the original home button on the iPad so it would be 100% functional, but either way good job :)
RIP Mr iPad. 2017-2022. You will be remembered❤
Schools where I live also provide this, or rather, they provide very cheap, underperforming tablets. I wonder if any school near me would at all offer to get rid of their e-waste like this instead of throwing it away. One day I asked my own and they just refused, and I ended up sneaking an old PS/2 keyboard inside my backpack lol
Also, I got this Samsung Galaxy Tab E, it refuses to charge, no LED lights up, and I don't have the tools to pry it open and check what is wrong. It's my mum's old device, it worked just fine but she got a new phone and we left the tablet unused for a good while. Would leaving it charging for a few hours help bring it back to life?
leaving it charged overnight can be a possibility of the device turning on but if it doesn't try removing the back cover if it has a removable battery (probably not) and remove it and plug a charger into it and see if it turns on (probably not)
if those don't work then a last ditch attempt is to try "jumpstarting" it idk how the battery pins are on this model but on my 2012 nexus 7 you could follow a tutorial (old usb cable) and directly charge the battery without it going thru the normal way
@@WaltuhD those galaxy tab es have the typical samsung flat pin connector, so jumpstarting isn't very easy unless you're precise. the USB port however is a main point of failure, because it's not braced to the frame in any way and will simply tear itself free from the board given the chance. they're quite simple to work on though, because the entire back case comes off to reveal *everything*.
Shrek as wallpaper on an iPad. DankPods would be so proud.
Man, this video is too short for all the things you did ! Still so frustrating to see people not thinking about desactivating icloud....
I got 42 ipads from iPad mini iPad 4 and iPad Air from a private school. Most was icloud locked and remote controlled by a company. I contacted the company and told them i got em for free told them the serial number and they did remove them ipads after contacting the school. And once i restored them again i got 38 ipads to work great. That was awesome
Sounds like the school learned the hard way to use MDM. FYI you can get a device un-iCloud-locked by Apple if you can provide proof of purchase. Iy requires wiping the device, so you'll lose whatever is on there, but overall it would be usable again. Device locked is another story. You need the Apple ID or MDM to fix that. All of this can be avoided by an MDM tool on an device linked to the Apple Business Manager (used for schools too).
To fix the boot looping one
Put a new battery as it can be used heavily and not show ot
My old school closed down not that long ago, all pcs and projectors were still in there but sadly someone set it alight. about 2 weeks ago they fully demolished the building pretty sad way for the technology to go :(
I once found a first gen iPad Mini in a box in the back room of my house. It was registered to a school somewhere, and funnily enough, I guessed its PIN first try. :D
After doing that, I deleted their provisioning profile and took it as my own. It's in very good condition aside from a few scratches on the screen, and the battery has 137 charging cycles as of writing this.
It seems to have been in use between 2015 and 2016, then forgotten about from then on, and I found it in 2019.
I hate to say that, these students didn't learn a basic lesson in their life, value for money and respect for what you have at your disposal. God forbid, Some time when they can't afford the same things in their lives ahead, they'll understand how much more than money these things were worth of.
Yep. Can concur. I work in school IT support. Almost every week, we have to replace damaged/lost keys on Chromebooks. Kids like to pick them off and often times, the teachers have no idea who did it. The kids don't care about it.
@@JJFlores197 I see that's a bad parenting in a way.. schools teach us subjects and parents teach us manners. Both are important 👍
Schools should give students a broom and lots of homework, not iPads
Why is eucaliptus oil your go to screen cleaner ?
Tea Tree- cos it takes of all the crud even cashies stickers.
6:53 "with my own money" 😭😂😂
How does one remove the account lock or is there a way to?
Rarely ever is a way
no
Short answer: You can’t
Long answer: You can do iCloud “bypass” on old devices like those 10.5” Pro to trick the iPad into thinking that you are the genuine owner, but you can’t use all the features and the device does not operate stably.
I believe if the school purchased them, they can contact Apple with proof of purchase and Apple can remove iCloud lock.
I wonder if the touch ID home button can be transplanted too?
The failed NANDs iPad can be revived by actually replacing their nand chips then reprogramming them.
Too bad you can't erase them to remove the iCloud lock. Android tablets wouldn't have this problem. I don't like Apple because they don't share their OS (license them) with manufacturers the way Google does with Android. Also, they don't make their apps cross-platform on Android and iOS is not compatible with Windows whereas Android is. I don't like Apple's walled garden approach where they lock everything down and limit their software to just their device
If apple did that ios would be very glitchy like android and apple doesn’t wanna share there stuff they don’t have to
It’s a problem for sure but that would also have the negative effect that then your phone can be stolen and just remove the iCloud lock what they should do is ping the account holder to request to remove the iCloud account if the device has been bought by someone else
Wow, I never thought that you cane get broken iPads to work by putting all the working parts together like a puzzle piece :O
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You may be able to get the two iCloud locked iPads usable again if you contact the school and they are able to track down the students who used them.
iCloud Lock must be so secure that even Psivewri gave up immediately.
9:39 and here we also had a soulution not a Problem. Transfer the old hole button to the new display and tada everything is back to normal
I have a 3rd - or 4th gen idk for sure, I know it's the first one to use the retina display and lightning port - iPad that's a little bit sad, unfortunately. It's only issue is the screen which is unresponsive, however it fires up and displays image. Will try to fix it in the near future.
Best start learning component level repair...
The RSL ad wore me out. G night.
Thanks Psivewri. This is one of the best video you have produced. I enjoyed it a lot.
You can check on the iCloud looked iPads after a few months, because they might remove it from their account later.
That's sad that the school couldn't manage their hardware and required them to be unlocked when turned back on. For all that effort, they should just let the student keep them.
the original home button from ipad number 11 can be harvested and replace the home button attached from the good lcd glass that you've transfered to number 11. (If the original homebutton of number 11 is still good)
iCloud locking is literally a e-waste producer.
Nice change of pace video. Paging Hugh Jeffries!
i dont get how people can treat a device that badly. i have my ipad since 2017 and i dont have a single scratch on it. Everything works fine and im carrying it with me everyday for Work and UNI
You could take the NAND chips from the activation locked iPads and put them into the bad NAND iPads, although doing such is a bit risky.
I’ve used this type if I-pad for 7 years now and I never knew it could turn out this bad this I-pad has been working fine for years I can’t believe they could be destroyed like that wow
At my uni we can borrow iPads but we have to sign a form to show that gives us liability and iCloud is disabled and we have to reset it in front of them.
hey, just wanted to let you know all of these models have working setupapp bypasses with silver (on mac) or f3arra1n (on windows). might be more interesting than letting them rot away
Is that a permanent solution that will allow the device to be easily reset and updated though?
@@psivewri well, it does persist after a reboot but you do need to re-do it on updates sadly
i think my other reply might have gotten filtered. ios devices before the a11 chip can be bypassed, you can check r/setupapp for help (cant link the exploit db directly since youtube filters it). if you want to remove icloud off of newer models or have it persist between updates you will have to obtain a reprint of the receipt from the retailer and unlock it through apple though
I did support for a large company before we got an MDM system. We had to register every phone and iPad with Apple. Anytime we needed an iCloud unlocked, it was filling out a pdf form and sending emails back and forth. And then after, required you to wipe the device again (I guess the device checks only one time on first connect to WiFi?). So annoying.
it's crazy how so many of those ipads' flash storage failed
you need to swap the home button from the old screen to the new one as its paired to the motherboard also for the icloud locked ipads you can get an irepair p10 box and flash a new serial to the ipad that way they can still be used also for the ones with nand errors try a dfu restore in 3u tools or itunes
Yes that p10 looks like it would solve a lot.
I would try using a usb-a cable to restore them. I don’t know why, but I’ve had usb-c fail to restore in the past.
You could've transfered the home button. Good work tho saving devices. Maybe salvage the lcds for selling on?
On the dead iPad, push on the motherboard and it should temporarily fix it. This is due to the coils on the 10.5 iPads pros coming loose
5:09 YES, the Shrekpad lives on!!!
It is quite easy to transfer the home button between screens to retain touch id, also the icloud locked devices can be bypassed using a checkra1n jailbreak which will bypass the activation and bring back most functionality
0:43 I thought the logo says Pad Shadow Legends and I was like wth
5:51 YES I LOVE THE SMOL ONE
5:50 AYYYY PHOTOBOOTH
Yes, everyone has it once they first get their ipad
@@YoshiCHEEP oh i thought my brother downloaded it for me because i liked the one on his ipad cuz when i got my ipad it had an album for a screen and yea
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