Because it lacks a regulator on the stove this is a "warm weather only" kit for me (it goes when I don't feel like waiting on my esbit or alcohol stoves). The speed of a boil is largely achieved because of the pot itself, which is the heaviest component of the Stash system. This is singularly why I prefer it over any other stove. With the windscreen built into the pot, and the speed of the boil, wind is less of a worry for me. All components weigh 7.2 ounces on my scale. Thank you for the review! Note: I have too many stoves and enjoy them all for various reasons. Sometimes I bring a particular stove solely to ensure it's used at least once a year. So I understand my reasons for liking this stove may not be in line with the average backpacker.
Only able to boil water....over $100...does not make sense. To save only 2 mins of boil time...it would take a hundred or so fuel canisters to begin leveling out that price. Crazy.
Love your reviews! I have a stash, used it for a week long section hike and camping trip on the Long Trail. Used it several times a day, what I found I loved about it was how efficient it was, it sips fuel like a Prius... I was able to carry less fuel and spend less on fuel in the long run. I didn't do any fancy cooking with it for sure! Thanks again for your great reviews.
I have the jetboil minimo system and I love it! It is a heavier system but more geared to those who want to cook on trail. I love to cook at home and my family will only go camping with me if there is going to be actual meals cooked so a stove that can simmer is a must have for me. The stash is expensive, doesn’t have a regulator and lacks the ability to adjust the flame, so it is an easy pass for me, especially when there are better ultralight options. Thanks for the gear review!
Im thinking of getting the Minimo but I’m afraid that the plastic things that are close to fire will melt, I’ve read a lot of reviews of people who complain that their melted and burned…
This is how reviews should be done! Excellent. Still not giving up my 22 year old Coleman white gas stove, works hot or cold. Its heavy but lights off every time and you never know when you might need another boat anchor. Cheers.
@@benwelch4076 you know it...was just showing it to a friend the other day. Huge square metal case with a fabric strap to hold it tight. Looks like new other than discoloration on the burner.
Got one since Spring, and have used it some. The lid tends to fall off in my example as well, resulting to a bit of a mess few times. Have learned to keep my thumb lightly on the lid when pouring the water. This works fine as in a quick pour it does not get too hot to burn my thumb. Another negative is the slight flimsiness of the handle. Need to be quite careful in order to not dislodge the mechanism. Nevertheless, I love having a proper insulated handle that (fairly well) prevents the lid to open in pack. The biggest positive is fuel efficiency vs. weight. Because of this I invested in this expensive piece of gear, and it delivers. This enables me to often take smaller canister saving bunch of weight and space, compared to a setup of Pocket Rocket and titanium pot.
Do you like the size of the stove to be able to use it for a frypan?? I have an Etekcity stove that I use for my Stanley Adventure cook kit; it works great for boiling water, but would like to have the option to be able to use a frypan too with a more stable stove top or is there a hack to creating one??
Yup. I went back to my heavier Flash because of entropy. You can pump BTUs into the water as fast as you want, but if there is no insulation on the pot itself, you encounter massive entropy loss. I watched mine go from boiling to cold in under 7 minutes. My Flash on the other hand kept the water piping hot much longer simply because it's insulated. Great idea, but impractical in below-freezing conditions.
I wonder how long the service life of the lid will be before it starts cracking. Will a replacement be available in 5-10 years? I like that it is big enough to fit ramen easily - simmer capability isn’t that great a concern. I just bring to a boil then shut off for a few minutes then relight again in order to save fuel. Worked last weekend at 10,800ft. I gave away my Flash due to it’s weight but keep a MSR Windburner around for cooking in high winds. Thanks.
Nicely put together review, thank you. I owned the system right about a year ago but took it back a few days later. I didn't trust the lid either, and pouring directly from the pot doesn't work too well unless it's really quick. If you're trying to do pour over coffee, etc, you end up with most of the water just going down the side of the pot instead of where you want it. And it's kind of odd that they built it so that you could use a different pot or frying pan on it, but don't give you much flame adjustability.. In the end, I figured none of these integrated systems are really for me. I have plenty of other lightweight pots and stoves to make whatever combination I like. And I know which one's pour and which ones don't.
Good honest review! Ya I always just thought it was too big and bulky. I am by no means a gram weenie but for just boiling water, a few extra minutes never bothered me. I'm a BRS and Stanley Cook pot user so thats about as cheap and minimal it can get for a cook system. Appreciate the info... and the intro :-)
FYI, the lid on the Stanley Cook pot also fits on the $5 stainless steel cup with the folding handles that Wal-Mart sells. I'll bring the stanley cook pot or the cup depending on my meals for the trip.
@@Doc_Watson yup, i nest the Stanley pot into that cup most of the time!! I've never used the cup as just the pot though. That'd lighten the load a bit.
@@DMSAdventures I don't like that cup as a cup because of the handles. But it's a good size for a pot. I bring a separate enamel coated coffee cup for coffee and nighttime campfire beverages. The enamel cup doesn't pack well, but that type of cup we've always had for camping, so it's more for nostalgia than anything.
@@JeremiahStringer Thanks Jeremiah. What about a quiet Jet Boil or a stove like that? I've heard people mention some but there are so many videos on backpacking stoves I lost track. I like being able to control the flame and want it as quiet as possible. A new stealth gear video would be great too Too many weird mixed colors going on with gear. I get it if hunters are around and the campers need to be seen. Just ideas. Great channel. I like it when real people like you review gear instead of those corporate speak voice over videos. Lol, Can't stand them.
@@myfavoriteplanet3247 Thank you :D I have heard good things about the whisper light stove being pretty quiet if I remember correctly, but I don't own one. Any canister stove is going to give you a bit of that "jet engine" sound, but some are louder than others. If I had more experience with different ones I'd advise you on it, but unfortunately I don't
Can you do an experiment with curing the radiator to insert the stove closer to the pot to get it more wind resistant and more stable-standing while using?
I've got a Flash, and absolutely love it. I never boil water with the lid. Less than 2 minutes and it's a ROLLING boil. It also has a sleeve on the pot to keep it warm and protect your hands. I'll have to try mine in the cold now that it's cooler here in Iowa. It takes a few times to learn how to work the regulator and determine how much gas you need coming out. I don't feel the Flash is terribly heavy, but food and cooking are my luxury pieces. I can find other places to cut a little more weight to make up for it.
I bought this to serve a dual purpose. When not used for camping/backpacking I use it in my truck. I drive a semi (Tractor trailer)and keep it in my truck for a few reasons. I love how little space it takes up and how it all stays together when not using it. I didn't mind spending the extra money on it just for my convenience of grab and go.
Have been using this since spring. Never been a fan of jet boil. Usually run with a Soto windmaster and toaks pot. I agree it struggles in the wind and cold and sucks at simmering. With that said, I do like how it stores all together and doesn’t rattle. Fuel consumption is where this shines. The little fuel canisters last forever compared to my wind master. Ultra light hikers wouldn’t even consider it, though isn’t that much heavier than my usual set up. Good review👍
I agree. I’ve never understood the price of this. You can assemble a comparable system with a MSR PR Deluxe or Soto Windmaster and a Toaks titanium pot, for $90-100 depending on what size pot you want.
@@ItsGoodintheWoods , With two torn knees and four separate back injuries, I hate hauling even one extra once, so I cut out as much of the fat as possible. For instance, I have drilled-out all of my cook pots to save weight.
paleo hiker has a comparison video of all these type of stoves , and has the windmaster stove with a similar jetboil pot that you can get now. Interesting in that the jet boil stash still ,used much less fuel than the soto windmaster with comparable pot.
I have a jetboil flash and I love it. Used it to make hot dogs and grilled cheeses aas well as boiling water obviously and making really good cowboy coffee with the French press
Very thorough and honest review. Thanks. Walmart grease pot and BRS 3000 costs way less and is great. Or change the grease pot to a GSI Hakulite 550ml mug. Or flat packing Sea to Summit kettle. Point being many other options as good and efficient or better for way less cash!!
Nice review! Agree with a lot. I bought a Stash because I have 4 other JetBoils (Micros, Minis, Zip, etc) and wanted to see if JetBoil nailed a UL stove set up, but think they missed a few of the marks on it like you mentioned. No regulator, wonky pack up, flimsy lid, can't really cook in it... so I'd choose a different JetBoil in all cases especially for the price of the Stash. My MiniMo for simmering and cooking, and if you just want to boil water, the MicroMo is better and faster. I only ended up saving about 3oz total with a lot less functionality. Now I'll just pair the Stash pot with another stove like my Olicamp electron.
It's not for me. I like to chill out when I set up camp and the speed it takes to boil some water is the last thing on my mind. I'll stick with my little alcohol stove Which also doubles up as a twig stove. And you can pick up fuel at any garage unlike gas. With my titanium pot I can get stove, fuel, sponge, cloth, spork, cup, 2 lighters and a sachet of coffee in it. Which all weighs less.
Thx for putting this new Stash into perspective. Great pro’s & con’s points, some I didn’t even think about. Great video, Jeremiah. For me, as a beginner hiker, I like the idea of the Stash. Honestly, it’s going to B my 1st cook kit for backpacking. In my mind, U described everything I was going to use the stash for in the 1st place. My wife missed her calling as a chef, so to hear the info about not utilizing this Stash for fancier trail food was very disappointing. I guess I understand. Jetboil does make a skillet- I saw that. We mite need a couple add-on pieces for our couples cook set, lol!! Ty sir. Waiting for the next video!!
They seem to be good for what they’re really designed for; mountaineering etc where weight matters and the only thing you need from a stove is to boil water fast for freeze dried meals. Jetboils are also issued to US Special Forces out of all the things they could be given, to me that says a lot. They’re not designed for everyone and every situation, people that expect it to do ‘everything’ are dreaming. Thanks for the review…
Did you use any isobutane "hacks" in the winter? 10mins is too long. Winter fuel helps, but it won't burn like how it does in warmer seasons. Boil a small small amnt of water, put it in a cup, then place your canister and stove in the cup. It will perform much much better. And when the hit water gets colder, just add a little bit of hot water to make that pressure giver in the can. I camp in -20°C, this will help you a lot.
Great review Jeremiah! I’ve had the stash for a month or so and have really enjoyed it! As stated, it not great for cooking things where you need to adjust the temp. But it’s been incredible at heating water fast for my morning aeropress, oatmeal, or dehydrated meals. I’ve also seen people fry up steaks or eggs on a skillet. Once you figure out how to properly pack it, it takes up very minimal space in my pack and I’ve quite enjoyed not losing pieces haha. I’ve found the price to be relatively comparable to alternative options here in Canada as one would have to buy a burner and cookset separately.
A lot of folks don't know that these kinda of stoves started out for Mountaineers or those who did like The North Face, etc.. As they where called "Hanging Stoves" and being light weight backpackers started using them too.. Thus they evolved to their current marketing! I checked out that grease can, intriguing.. Hey you could use it as a steamer too for veggies!! I may have to try one, but for now, I'm staying with my Toaks stuff and homemade Reflectix Koozie.. Hoobilly
First thing the 4 season canister are not made for winter specially if you are live in 40 degrees and lower temperatures the expens go look at the msr stove with the cup its $150 bucks I have cooked lots of stuff with out any problem I cook potatoes freeze dry food I have cook real eggs I have cook lots of things you just have to be careful with it I have boiled water in 2 minutes I do use the gas in the winter I use white gas with that pot
It might be loud. But, for only 2.5 minutes in order to boil water. The pot's heat exchanger may get clogged if you run out of fuel and have to boil water over a camp fire.
Awesome review! Ya, the price point for jet boils is too rich for my blood. Been using budget options for years with no issues. I do like the little hole you can sip hot drinks from though! Thanks for sharing!
"You have to put it in the right position or the lead wont close". I asked for a demonstration in a shop and the salesman was unable to find the right position to close the lead, me neither... I decided to keep my JetBoil Fast. I guess when you know how to do it, it's not a big deal to repeat it, but when you don't know the solution...
Thank you so much. This have been on my mind for so long but thanks to you I know it's not for me. Every other reviewer says how light and cute it is, no one talks about the real stuff like cooking and lid ergonomics etc. You saved me a ton of money (probably not, I have other things on my list :) ). All the best from UK.
I always distrust and dislike a company that states certain things on their site and when you buy it, it's different. I know they often test under perfect lab conditions (eg boil times), but some things are pure deception. For example, bought a couple backpacks from well known providers that are far heavier than stated. Even if my scales were out, I could not get the stated weights without removing all straps and buckles, etc.
The Jetboil Stash works to boil water for me because of its efficiency in using much less fuel with its flux ring. When paired with a Soto Windmaster the fuel savings are substantial if you are out long enough. If only going backpacking 3-4 days one canister is plenty per person for any set up. However on longer trips the Stash can save the weight of carrying a second fuel canister if going out for 5-7 days.
I struggle with it being as good as the pocket rocket deluxe I have when it comes to simmering. I can't simmer rice for 10 minutes with the jetboil. It sticks on me
Thanks for an honest review. I'll stick to my setup ~ pocket rocket, Toaks pot & bandana (multi-use potholder 😉). Hasn't let me down in almost 4 years. 🐻🌲🐻
I use my stash for 1 purpose Boiling water fast as possible when on the move. Only use for dehydrated, meals, and hot drinks on the mountain. That’s its purpose!
Jetboil did a great marketing job by giving so many of these away for free to YTers. Glad to see someone do a thorough review and go over the actual positive and negative aspects of this product.
If you can't cook in the pot I'll stick to my Jetboil Flash. Size is not a negative. It's like saying size is a negative to an SUV for someone who wants a compact. Guess what, if you want a compact you shouldn't be looking at SUVs.
If I live to be a hundred I will never understand the obsession with boil time. The way I see it, if someone's willing to dump an extra 100 bucks just to save a minute or two in the woods they make way too much freakin money lol. Chances are if you're cooking, you're either taking a break and airing out your feet or you're getting ready to go to bed. How could an extra two minutes POSSIBLY affect your day in any way? It's nothing but bragging rights for dudes with wee-wee issues (Granted, I'm perfectly fine driving a Hyundai Accent so I can't relate). I challenge anyone to find a video with a woman who even mentions boil time? You won't because there isn't one. Sorry... I'll get off my soapbox now lol.
Lol it's all good. The only reason I care is consistent fuel use from a stove. If it sometimes has a boil time of 3 minutes and other times it's over 10, there is a real possibility of me running out of fuel during a long trip
Yea, I get it, and on longer trips that merits consideration. It's just that there are sooo many videos on that ridiculously overrated subject. There are even entire channels devoted to it lol.
I’m sticking with my Pocket Rocket and a random titanium cup with a metal lid that holds fuel etc. My Stash came with a weak lid that will Not stay on, base won’t clip onto any fuel can, no control over heat, full on or off. Not worth the $135.
You can definitely cook for great meal in a jetboil you can brown meat all sorts of stuff not just soup and water 😂 You can even get an attachment that fits inside four pack up that allows you to cook with a pan as well!
Great review. Not a kit for me. I just saw it at Sportsman’s warehouse for $ 129.00 not any worse cost than say a MSR windburner IMO if your just wanting to boil water. I’ll stick with my 800ml pot and Soto windmaster.
Good review. It looks like a fab stove. However, massively overpriced. I’d rather wait a few minutes extra & go for a cheaper option. Thanks for the vid.
Great discussion. This pot peaked my interest when it came out and the more I looked at it the more it seems it is really not good at much. I wanted to like it. For me, it’s a little big, it lacks a wind screen and needs one, it’s relatively heavy, and expensive for what it is.
I've got one too. It makes it on about half my trips as I can't decide which I like best between this and the old toaks and pocket rocket combo. I take the lid off to pour my water.
Built-in hot lips and fuel cap storage built into lid is awesome. The fins, in the cold, hamper gettin’ a pretty boil. I love their products and have bought and used their stuff but I have went a few different routes. Solo bike packer/hike in hammock camper.
Doesn’t sound like an ok investment at all. Way overpriced at $130. Lid falls off when pouring. Takes 10 minutes to boil in winter. Hassle to fit everything in.
"Iteration"? Is this a gear review video or a MENSA meeting? Seriously, I rarely use cannister stoves. Too loud, too wasteful, and too costly, plus I like to set/break camp while I am cooking, and if I do that with a cannister stove I end up wasting a ton of fuel not minding the pot. I prefer wood or alcohol. I set it with the amount of fuel I expect to use and let it do its thing. If it burns out while I am busy, so what? It will still be hot for a good while. Yeah, it takes twice as long to cook with alcohol and longer with wood, but I can wait for the extra minutes. I never stop and cook for lunch, so time is not an issue. Running out of cannister fuel is, though. As I have posted to the channel before, I love my Trail Designs Ti-Tri stove kit. It comes in a two-piece container case that is admittedly bulky, but both pieces can do double-duty as two drink cups. I can fit within it my alcohol stove, spoon(s), lighter, matches and several Esbit cubes, so I do not mind the bulk. And I could improvise without the container case to make a much smaller carry if I cared. I can vary the heat on the pot by raising or lowering the pot betwen two levels. The two downsides are that (1) it can blow around in gusts if you are cooking on a rock or picnic table (especially before you put a loaded pot atop it) because you cannot stake it down to those surfaces, and (2) it must be used with only a specific circumference of a particular stove. You order it by the brand and model of the pot you have. I have a titanium Snowpeak cookpot with a matching titanium skillet that doubles as a lid. Like you, I carry a separate titanium cup (I do not drink hot liquids out of plastic - bad, bad, bad for you) so I can drink coffee or tea while I am setting/breaking camp and waiting for breakfast or dinner to cook. That second gripe has never been a concern for me, though. Love your frank honestly Mr. Stringer. FIGHT THE POWER! ;)
@@samsmith8870 I have heard that, but what about Esbit or BCB Dragon fuel cubes? I never heard of them being banned. How could a cannister be safer? It can't, as far as I can figure. I always carry some with my twig/alcohol/cube stoves.
I hate to tell you but you can cook just fine on it, You can turn the burner down and cook on it, I cooked a egg and sausage and made a sandwich out of it so your wrong on that part, Just saying
Come on, mate, lid falling off? Doesn't backpacking necessarily include some creativity? Like putting a sock or something on your hands and hold the lid down? (Obviously away from the hot steam)
Your “con” of it taking forever to boil water in winter is wholly your fault. For the gas to vaporize you need to keep the canister at room temp, so keep the canister close to your body while at camp. Dummy. Not the fault of the stove.
Because it lacks a regulator on the stove this is a "warm weather only" kit for me (it goes when I don't feel like waiting on my esbit or alcohol stoves). The speed of a boil is largely achieved because of the pot itself, which is the heaviest component of the Stash system. This is singularly why I prefer it over any other stove. With the windscreen built into the pot, and the speed of the boil, wind is less of a worry for me. All components weigh 7.2 ounces on my scale. Thank you for the review!
Note: I have too many stoves and enjoy them all for various reasons. Sometimes I bring a particular stove solely to ensure it's used at least once a year. So I understand my reasons for liking this stove may not be in line with the average backpacker.
Right about the regulator! One thing I wished JetBoil did for this new stove (for the price).
That makes sense for sure :D
Only able to boil water....over $100...does not make sense. To save only 2 mins of boil time...it would take a hundred or so fuel canisters to begin leveling out that price. Crazy.
Love your reviews! I have a stash, used it for a week long section hike and camping trip on the Long Trail. Used it several times a day, what I found I loved about it was how efficient it was, it sips fuel like a Prius... I was able to carry less fuel and spend less on fuel in the long run. I didn't do any fancy cooking with it for sure! Thanks again for your great reviews.
That is a great point about the stove :D
I have the jetboil minimo system and I love it! It is a heavier system but more geared to those who want to cook on trail. I love to cook at home and my family will only go camping with me if there is going to be actual meals cooked so a stove that can simmer is a must have for me. The stash is expensive, doesn’t have a regulator and lacks the ability to adjust the flame, so it is an easy pass for me, especially when there are better ultralight options. Thanks for the gear review!
Good points in your comment :D
Im thinking of getting the Minimo but I’m afraid that the plastic things that are close to fire will melt, I’ve read a lot of reviews of people who complain that their melted and burned…
Thank you for taking the time to leave your review. We appreciate the honesty and I will be sure to relay your comments to our quality team.
My pleasure! Appreciate you sending it to me
This is how reviews should be done! Excellent. Still not giving up my 22 year old Coleman white gas stove, works hot or cold. Its heavy but lights off every time and you never know when you might need another boat anchor. Cheers.
Thank you so much :D
I have a Colman gas stove with metal case.... Almost 3 lbs empty....but a classic
@@2laughandlaugh bet it works every time too
@@benwelch4076 you know it...was just showing it to a friend the other day. Huge square metal case with a fabric strap to hold it tight. Looks like new other than discoloration on the burner.
@@2laughandlaugh I do believe this is the only piece of camping gear I have, that I wont leave home with out.
Got one since Spring, and have used it some.
The lid tends to fall off in my example as well, resulting to a bit of a mess few times. Have learned to keep my thumb lightly on the lid when pouring the water. This works fine as in a quick pour it does not get too hot to burn my thumb.
Another negative is the slight flimsiness of the handle. Need to be quite careful in order to not dislodge the mechanism. Nevertheless, I love having a proper insulated handle that (fairly well) prevents the lid to open in pack.
The biggest positive is fuel efficiency vs. weight. Because of this I invested in this expensive piece of gear, and it delivers. This enables me to often take smaller canister saving bunch of weight and space, compared to a setup of Pocket Rocket and titanium pot.
Very great points!! I'll try that with the lid
Do you like the size of the stove to be able to use it for a frypan?? I have an Etekcity stove that I use for my Stanley Adventure cook kit; it works great for boiling water, but would like to have the option to be able to use a frypan too with a more stable stove top or is there a hack to creating one??
You could but I like my Pocket Rocket Deluxe better for that
@@JeremiahStringer Thanks for your input!!
Yup. I went back to my heavier Flash because of entropy. You can pump BTUs into the water as fast as you want, but if there is no insulation on the pot itself, you encounter massive entropy loss. I watched mine go from boiling to cold in under 7 minutes. My Flash on the other hand kept the water piping hot much longer simply because it's insulated. Great idea, but impractical in below-freezing conditions.
Great point! I didn't even think about that
I wonder how long the service life of the lid will be before it starts cracking. Will a replacement be available in 5-10 years?
I like that it is big enough to fit ramen easily - simmer capability isn’t that great a concern. I just bring to a boil then shut off for a few minutes then relight again in order to save fuel. Worked last weekend at 10,800ft. I gave away my Flash due to it’s weight but keep a MSR Windburner around for cooking in high winds. Thanks.
Great question about the lid, John! Only time will tell I suppose
Nicely put together review, thank you. I owned the system right about a year ago but took it back a few days later. I didn't trust the lid either, and pouring directly from the pot doesn't work too well unless it's really quick. If you're trying to do pour over coffee, etc, you end up with most of the water just going down the side of the pot instead of where you want it. And it's kind of odd that they built it so that you could use a different pot or frying pan on it, but don't give you much flame adjustability.. In the end, I figured none of these integrated systems are really for me. I have plenty of other lightweight pots and stoves to make whatever combination I like. And I know which one's pour and which ones don't.
I sold it
Good honest review! Ya I always just thought it was too big and bulky. I am by no means a gram weenie but for just boiling water, a few extra minutes never bothered me. I'm a BRS and Stanley Cook pot user so thats about as cheap and minimal it can get for a cook system. Appreciate the info... and the intro :-)
I'm right there with you :D
FYI, the lid on the Stanley Cook pot also fits on the $5 stainless steel cup with the folding handles that Wal-Mart sells. I'll bring the stanley cook pot or the cup depending on my meals for the trip.
@@Doc_Watson yup, i nest the Stanley pot into that cup most of the time!! I've never used the cup as just the pot though. That'd lighten the load a bit.
@@DMSAdventures I don't like that cup as a cup because of the handles. But it's a good size for a pot. I bring a separate enamel coated coffee cup for coffee and nighttime campfire beverages. The enamel cup doesn't pack well, but that type of cup we've always had for camping, so it's more for nostalgia than anything.
Thanks man for all the info!!!
Any time!
Is there a good stove that doesn't make a lot of noise?
Any alcohol stove would be silent, but they take longer
@@JeremiahStringer
Thanks Jeremiah.
What about a quiet Jet Boil or a stove like that?
I've heard people mention some but there are so many videos on backpacking stoves I lost track.
I like being able to control the flame and want it as quiet as possible.
A new stealth gear video would be great too
Too many weird mixed colors going on with gear.
I get it if hunters are around and the campers need to be seen.
Just ideas.
Great channel.
I like it when real people like you review gear instead of those corporate speak voice over videos.
Lol, Can't stand them.
@@myfavoriteplanet3247 Thank you :D I have heard good things about the whisper light stove being pretty quiet if I remember correctly, but I don't own one. Any canister stove is going to give you a bit of that "jet engine" sound, but some are louder than others. If I had more experience with different ones I'd advise you on it, but unfortunately I don't
I think in America it is pretty cheap. Here in the Netherlands I have to pay €169.99 for it, which is a little under 200 dollars.....
That's a lot lol
@@JeremiahStringer bizar isn't. I would love to have it, but really can't get myself to spend so much money on a cook set.
Can you do an experiment with curing the radiator to insert the stove closer to the pot to get it more wind resistant and more stable-standing while using?
I've got a Flash, and absolutely love it. I never boil water with the lid. Less than 2 minutes and it's a ROLLING boil. It also has a sleeve on the pot to keep it warm and protect your hands. I'll have to try mine in the cold now that it's cooler here in Iowa. It takes a few times to learn how to work the regulator and determine how much gas you need coming out. I don't feel the Flash is terribly heavy, but food and cooking are my luxury pieces. I can find other places to cut a little more weight to make up for it.
Flash is a great setup :D Perfect for boiling water
Try pouring the boiling water without the lid. Lol
Lol I'm next level lazy
I bought this to serve a dual purpose. When not used for camping/backpacking I use it in my truck. I drive a semi (Tractor trailer)and keep it in my truck for a few reasons. I love how little space it takes up and how it all stays together when not using it. I didn't mind spending the extra money on it just for my convenience of grab and go.
That is perfect!
Great informational video I was thinking of buy one but I like to cook out on trail sometimes thanks again
Right on
Have been using this since spring. Never been a fan of jet boil. Usually run with a Soto windmaster and toaks pot. I agree it struggles in the wind and cold and sucks at simmering. With that said, I do like how it stores all together and doesn’t rattle. Fuel consumption is where this shines. The little fuel canisters last forever compared to my wind master. Ultra light hikers wouldn’t even consider it, though isn’t that much heavier than my usual set up. Good review👍
Thank you, Dave. There is definitely some good and bad with it :D
I am completely underwhelmed by that stove system.
I love Jetboil products......but overall, I feel like they missed the mark on this one. Great follow up review
I agree. I’ve never understood the price of this.
You can assemble a comparable system with a MSR PR Deluxe or Soto Windmaster and a Toaks titanium pot, for $90-100 depending on what size pot you want.
@@jonsanford2515 Sure can.....and it will weigh less too
@@ItsGoodintheWoods ,
With two torn knees and four separate back injuries, I hate hauling even one extra once, so I cut out as much of the fat as possible. For instance, I have drilled-out all of my cook pots to save weight.
@@chriseidam7319 LOL
Thanks for sharing Jeremiah! That handle is what I love. My Toaks pot handle can get super hot haha
My pleasure :D
I’m looking forward to Jetboil offering just the pot so I can pair it with my Soto Windmaster stove! Great review, thanks👌
paleo hiker has a comparison video of all these type of stoves , and has the windmaster stove with a similar jetboil pot that you can get now. Interesting in that the jet boil stash still ,used much less fuel than the soto windmaster with comparable pot.
@@JustinMcKinneyhiker what is that comparable pot please?
@@texmexia49 It's the Olicamp XTS Pot on Amazon , it's a bit bigger than the Stash . Price is 29.95
@@JustinMcKinneyhiker Thank you Justin
Glad you enjoyed :D
I have a jetboil flash and I love it. Used it to make hot dogs and grilled cheeses aas well as boiling water obviously and making really good cowboy coffee with the French press
That sounds great :D
We talking small grill cheese?
@Stonepotwaffle regular size grilled cheese
Very thorough and honest review. Thanks.
Walmart grease pot and BRS 3000 costs way less and is great. Or change the grease pot to a GSI Hakulite 550ml mug. Or flat packing Sea to Summit kettle. Point being many other options as good and efficient or better for way less cash!!
Great point!
Nice review! Agree with a lot. I bought a Stash because I have 4 other JetBoils (Micros, Minis, Zip, etc) and wanted to see if JetBoil nailed a UL stove set up, but think they missed a few of the marks on it like you mentioned. No regulator, wonky pack up, flimsy lid, can't really cook in it... so I'd choose a different JetBoil in all cases especially for the price of the Stash. My MiniMo for simmering and cooking, and if you just want to boil water, the MicroMo is better and faster. I only ended up saving about 3oz total with a lot less functionality. Now I'll just pair the Stash pot with another stove like my Olicamp electron.
Jetboil makes some great stuff :D
Thank you!👍🏻
You're welcome!
Thanks, helpful
Glad it helped
Great that you do grams, but can you do milliliters (ml) too?
Absolutely :D I'll try and remember for next time
Can i cook ground beef?
I don't think it would be a good fit for cooking much. Just boiling water
It's not for me.
I like to chill out when I set up camp and the speed it takes to boil some water is the last thing on my mind.
I'll stick with my little alcohol stove
Which also doubles up as a twig stove.
And you can pick up fuel at any garage unlike gas.
With my titanium pot I can get stove, fuel, sponge, cloth, spork, cup, 2 lighters and a sachet of coffee in it.
Which all weighs less.
Exactly.
Good stuff :D
What do you use for an alcohol stove that doubles as a twig stove? I've been playing with a DIY alcohol stove since last fall and I kinda like them.
@Adrian T Linda mentioned an alcohol stove that doubles as a twig stove. That's what I was asking about.
Thx for putting this new Stash into perspective. Great pro’s & con’s points, some I didn’t even think about. Great video, Jeremiah. For me, as a beginner hiker, I like the idea of the Stash. Honestly, it’s going to B my 1st cook kit for backpacking. In my mind, U described everything I was going to use the stash for in the 1st place. My wife missed her calling as a chef, so to hear the info about not utilizing this Stash for fancier trail food was very disappointing. I guess I understand. Jetboil does make a skillet- I saw that. We mite need a couple add-on pieces for our couples cook set, lol!! Ty sir. Waiting for the next video!!
My pleasure :D A little skillet is always nice. I use one made by Sea to Summit
They seem to be good for what they’re really designed for; mountaineering etc where weight matters and the only thing you need from a stove is to boil water fast for freeze dried meals. Jetboils are also issued to US Special Forces out of all the things they could be given, to me that says a lot. They’re not designed for everyone and every situation, people that expect it to do ‘everything’ are dreaming. Thanks for the review…
My pleasure
Did you use any isobutane "hacks" in the winter? 10mins is too long. Winter fuel helps, but it won't burn like how it does in warmer seasons.
Boil a small small amnt of water, put it in a cup, then place your canister and stove in the cup. It will perform much much better. And when the hit water gets colder, just add a little bit of hot water to make that pressure giver in the can.
I camp in -20°C, this will help you a lot.
That is a great idea!
Great review Jeremiah! I’ve had the stash for a month or so and have really enjoyed it! As stated, it not great for cooking things where you need to adjust the temp. But it’s been incredible at heating water fast for my morning aeropress, oatmeal, or dehydrated meals. I’ve also seen people fry up steaks or eggs on a skillet. Once you figure out how to properly pack it, it takes up very minimal space in my pack and I’ve quite enjoyed not losing pieces haha. I’ve found the price to be relatively comparable to alternative options here in Canada as one would have to buy a burner and cookset separately.
Yeah I spent more money on other setups XD
You need to do a review using a cast iron frying pan. You know the wedding gift that every new bride should receive
XD I'll have the ultimate heavy load out!!
A lot of folks don't know that these kinda of stoves started out for Mountaineers or those who did like The North Face, etc.. As they where called "Hanging Stoves" and being light weight backpackers started using them too.. Thus they evolved to their current marketing! I checked out that grease can, intriguing.. Hey you could use it as a steamer too for veggies!! I may have to try one, but for now, I'm staying with my Toaks stuff and homemade Reflectix Koozie.. Hoobilly
I had no idea :D
First thing the 4 season canister are not made for winter specially if you are live in 40 degrees and lower temperatures the expens go look at the msr stove with the cup its $150 bucks I have cooked lots of stuff with out any problem I cook potatoes freeze dry food I have cook real eggs I have cook lots of things you just have to be careful with it I have boiled water in 2 minutes I do use the gas in the winter I use white gas with that pot
I don’t snap on the lid when I’m boiling water I just lay it on the top so it’s easy to take off when pouring water
Great thoughts! :D
It might be loud. But, for only 2.5 minutes in order to boil water.
The pot's heat exchanger may get clogged if you run out of fuel and have to boil water over a camp fire.
Very quick
Awesome review! Ya, the price point for jet boils is too rich for my blood. Been using budget options for years with no issues. I do like the little hole you can sip hot drinks from though! Thanks for sharing!
It is pretty expensive
Good review thank you
Very welcome
"You have to put it in the right position or the lead wont close". I asked for a demonstration in a shop and the salesman was unable to find the right position to close the lead, me neither... I decided to keep my JetBoil Fast. I guess when you know how to do it, it's not a big deal to repeat it, but when you don't know the solution...
I am currently loving the MSR Pocket Rocket Deluxe
Thank you so much. This have been on my mind for so long but thanks to you I know it's not for me. Every other reviewer says how light and cute it is, no one talks about the real stuff like cooking and lid ergonomics etc. You saved me a ton of money (probably not, I have other things on my list :) ). All the best from UK.
My pleasure :D
I always distrust and dislike a company that states certain things on their site and when you buy it, it's different. I know they often test under perfect lab conditions (eg boil times), but some things are pure deception. For example, bought a couple backpacks from well known providers that are far heavier than stated. Even if my scales were out, I could not get the stated weights without removing all straps and buckles, etc.
Very good point
Great review, thanks for sharing👍😉
Thanks for watching!
Yup, I looked at it. REI guy said nope to cooking with it. So got the MSR Pocket Rocket. I'm packing fresh foods now. Heavy but totally worth it.
Rock on!
I have one myself, it's been fantastic and it's a great fuel sipper
Right on :D
you are awesome... i follow you and watch all your videos
Thank you so much 😀
Great review! Might consider buying a pocket rocket and some other gear as part of my cook system after seeing this. Cheers.
Pocket Rocket is great :D
The Jetboil Stash works to boil water for me because of its efficiency in using much less fuel with its flux ring. When paired with a Soto Windmaster the fuel savings are substantial if you are out long enough. If only going backpacking 3-4 days one canister is plenty per person for any set up. However on longer trips the Stash can save the weight of carrying a second fuel canister if going out for 5-7 days.
Great info, J J :D That is a great job of fuel savings
I quite like my jetboil stash, but I'm confused about the "it's only on, or off" comment; I am certainly able to regulate the fire with mine.
I struggle with it being as good as the pocket rocket deluxe I have when it comes to simmering. I can't simmer rice for 10 minutes with the jetboil. It sticks on me
@@JeremiahStringer You try pre soaking the rice first before cooking.
It's a bit heavy and bulky but for an all weather water boiler I love my Kelly kettle
That's a good choice too :D
Great review buddy! No go for me. I’ll stick with my Toaks pot and BRS stove.
Just got me a toaks
Just can’t get on the Jet Boil train. Snow Peak Duo and MSR PR Deluxe is the last cook set I’ll ever need
Great option :D
Thanks for an honest review. I'll stick to my setup ~ pocket rocket, Toaks pot & bandana (multi-use potholder 😉). Hasn't let me down in almost 4 years. 🐻🌲🐻
That is a great setup :D
Thanks good review
You bet :D
I'm sticking with my BRS 3000T and my Toaks 750 pot. Thanks for the review, though!
That is a perfect setup :D
Yup. I can ever throw a Ti coffee mug in there and still be lighter than the Stash.
I bought the Camp Chef Stryker 100, which is like the Jetboil, but under $100. If you have your heart set on a Jetboil, I would highly suggest this.
Awesome option! Thank you :D
I use my stash for 1 purpose
Boiling water fast as possible when on the move.
Only use for dehydrated, meals, and hot drinks on the mountain.
That’s its purpose!
Jetboil did a great marketing job by giving so many of these away for free to YTers. Glad to see someone do a thorough review and go over the actual positive and negative aspects of this product.
Thank you :D
If you can't cook in the pot I'll stick to my Jetboil Flash. Size is not a negative. It's like saying size is a negative to an SUV for someone who wants a compact. Guess what, if you want a compact you shouldn't be looking at SUVs.
Lol truth
If I live to be a hundred I will never understand the obsession with boil time. The way I see it, if someone's willing to dump an extra 100 bucks just to save a minute or two in the woods they make way too much freakin money lol. Chances are if you're cooking, you're either taking a break and airing out your feet or you're getting ready to go to bed. How could an extra two minutes POSSIBLY affect your day in any way? It's nothing but bragging rights for dudes with wee-wee issues (Granted, I'm perfectly fine driving a Hyundai Accent so I can't relate). I challenge anyone to find a video with a woman who even mentions boil time? You won't because there isn't one. Sorry... I'll get off my soapbox now lol.
Lol it's all good. The only reason I care is consistent fuel use from a stove. If it sometimes has a boil time of 3 minutes and other times it's over 10, there is a real possibility of me running out of fuel during a long trip
Yea, I get it, and on longer trips that merits consideration. It's just that there are sooo many videos on that ridiculously overrated subject. There are even entire channels devoted to it lol.
@@samsmith8870 ya "get it" but ya don't. Just wanted grumble for the sake of grumbling. I get it , Its a personality thing lol
On my backpacking trips, I usually have 10-15 minutes to prepare food and eat it. Nobody is gonna wait for me if it takes longer.
I’m sticking with my Pocket Rocket and a random titanium cup with a metal lid that holds fuel etc. My Stash came with a weak lid that will Not stay on, base won’t clip onto any fuel can, no control over heat, full on or off. Not worth the $135.
I love the pocket rocket
You can definitely cook for great meal in a jetboil you can brown meat all sorts of stuff not just soup and water 😂
You can even get an attachment that fits inside four pack up that allows you to cook with a pan as well!
That sounds awesome :D
Hmm I've never used a jetboil I have an MSR and a twig stove I mainly use but it's compact
Those are great too :D
Great review. Not a kit for me. I just saw it at Sportsman’s warehouse for $ 129.00 not any worse cost than say a MSR windburner IMO if your just wanting to boil water. I’ll stick with my 800ml pot and Soto windmaster.
Good choice :D
you should try to pour cold water to see if its just with hot water.
That's a good idea!
I still have my Optimus Svea Stove. You can just use good old gas. Built like a tank.
That's a good setup!
Good review. It looks like a fab stove. However, massively overpriced. I’d rather wait a few minutes extra & go for a cheaper option. Thanks for the vid.
Good thinking :D
You definitely sold me on not buying a jetboil! Thank you for the informative video. :)
My pleasure :D
Great discussion. This pot peaked my interest when it came out and the more I looked at it the more it seems it is really not good at much. I wanted to like it. For me, it’s a little big, it lacks a wind screen and needs one, it’s relatively heavy, and expensive for what it is.
I think it will be most popular with newbies
Your review is spot on.
Thank you :D
Soto Amicus/Windmaster and Toaks 750 Ti are far superior in my experience to the Stash.
A great option as well :D
Good real world review and observations.
Thank you :D
I've got one too. It makes it on about half my trips as I can't decide which I like best between this and the old toaks and pocket rocket combo. I take the lid off to pour my water.
Makes sense, I just don't wanna take off the lid lol
@@JeremiahStringer 🤣 I get it bud.
Toaks 750ml pot...pocket rocket stove and 110 fuel can plus mini big lighter....15.2 oz.
Hard to beat :D
@@JeremiahStringer hard to believe 4 years ago when I started i was using a can of sterno....boil time about 12 min...😂
Built-in hot lips and fuel cap storage built into lid is awesome. The fins, in the cold, hamper gettin’ a pretty boil. I love their products and have bought and used their stuff but I have went a few different routes. Solo bike packer/hike in hammock camper.
Great feautures :D
I've got one dont like it 😕 I've like my normal jet boil with sleeve with indercater telling me it's boild .jonah from Scotland. OUT 😀
Sold mine
Regulated means simmer control
No regulator no simmer lol 😂
Sadly
Terribly expensive.
And it still weighs more than a Soto Windmaster and a titanium 750ml pot
You speak the truth
And half as efficient Your pack is even lighter when you run out of fuel LOL Or heavier when you need to carry more .
Doesn’t sound like an ok investment at all. Way overpriced at $130. Lid falls off when pouring. Takes 10 minutes to boil in winter. Hassle to fit everything in.
I sold mine
If pot doesn't connect to the burner, dont buy it.
Good thinking :D
"Iteration"? Is this a gear review video or a MENSA meeting?
Seriously, I rarely use cannister stoves. Too loud, too wasteful, and too costly, plus I like to set/break camp while I am cooking, and if I do that with a cannister stove I end up wasting a ton of fuel not minding the pot.
I prefer wood or alcohol. I set it with the amount of fuel I expect to use and let it do its thing. If it burns out while I am busy, so what? It will still be hot for a good while.
Yeah, it takes twice as long to cook with alcohol and longer with wood, but I can wait for the extra minutes. I never stop and cook for lunch, so time is not an issue. Running out of cannister fuel is, though.
As I have posted to the channel before, I love my Trail Designs Ti-Tri stove kit. It comes in a two-piece container case that is admittedly bulky, but both pieces can do double-duty as two drink cups. I can fit within it my alcohol stove, spoon(s), lighter, matches and several Esbit cubes, so I do not mind the bulk. And I could improvise without the container case to make a much smaller carry if I cared. I can vary the heat on the pot by raising or lowering the pot betwen two levels. The two downsides are that (1) it can blow around in gusts if you are cooking on a rock or picnic table (especially before you put a loaded pot atop it) because you cannot stake it down to those surfaces, and (2) it must be used with only a specific circumference of a particular stove. You order it by the brand and model of the pot you have. I have a titanium Snowpeak cookpot with a matching titanium skillet that doubles as a lid. Like you, I carry a separate titanium cup (I do not drink hot liquids out of plastic - bad, bad, bad for you) so I can drink coffee or tea while I am setting/breaking camp and waiting for breakfast or dinner to cook. That second gripe has never been a concern for me, though.
Love your frank honestly Mr. Stringer. FIGHT THE POWER! ;)
Great comment :D Appreciate you!!
Many places will only let you use canister stoves.
@@samsmith8870
I have heard that, but what about Esbit or BCB Dragon fuel cubes? I never heard of them being banned. How could a cannister be safer? It can't, as far as I can figure. I always carry some with my twig/alcohol/cube stoves.
I hate to tell you but you can cook just fine on it, You can turn the burner down and cook on it, I cooked a egg and sausage and made a sandwich out of it so your wrong on that part, Just saying
Good stuff :D I couldn't get it to simmer
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Come on, mate, lid falling off? Doesn't backpacking necessarily include some creativity? Like putting a sock or something on your hands and hold the lid down? (Obviously away from the hot steam)
Yeah that would work
Your “con” of it taking forever to boil water in winter is wholly your fault. For the gas to vaporize you need to keep the canister at room temp, so keep the canister close to your body while at camp.
Dummy. Not the fault of the stove.
Lol thank you
Optimus SVEA for the win…
Great stuff :D
Too bulky for some people?🤔 Hardly a "con"🤣
XD
First! Love the channel :)
Yay! :D Thank you
BRS is king.
I got one and thought is used too much fuel.
I take mine when I wanna go lighter weight every time :D
Don’t pour with lid…
The steam burns your fingers taking the lid off, unfortunately. I think it should be engineered where that isn't an issue
@@JeremiahStringer never had an issue in 8 months of use 🤷🏼♂️
Good deal. Maybe I got a lemon lol
Milliliters grams >:c
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Jet Boils suck. The end
XD