I don't know who needs to hear this right now but using a childcare provider is not "someone else raising your child." Childcare providers offer a real service that is valuable to our communities. You should never feel bad about using a childcare provider so you can work, have a night off, or just have some damn time away from your kids. Do your research, find a facility or provider you're comfortable with, and USE THEM. They are people, providing a valuable service, and need money too. You don't earn a medal for being in charge of your children 24 hours a day for their entire lives. If you want to? Great. If you want to go to work? Great. STOP telling women that there's only one way to be a good mom and that's to be around your children 24 hours a day. It's ludicrous, ignorant, and very damaging. Thanks for coming to my Ted Talk
As someone who grew up in childcare, I support this wholeheartedly. My mom was there for us when she could be. I never felt neglected or not raised by her just because she worked.
Nursery did wonders for my son. He was so timid in large groups and ridiculously fussy about food until he started going there. Now he's 7 and the most outgoing, confident kid who has never, ever had problems with school and I have to thank the nursery workers for a lot of that. I'm not ashamed of that either - they're highly trained in early years education and I'm not 🤷🏼♀️
"Do you want to watch a good movie?" "Nah, I don't have the time to sit down and watch a whole movie right now" *watches 84-minute long Anti-MLM video*
Red flag #1: “I had to put all my trust into JessyLee”. Nope. NOPE. Don’t ever, EVER give yourself fully to someone who gains from your hard work financially.
No matter how bad things get and no matter how stressful moving can get, there are two this that cheer me up: 1. Spicy Chelsea 2. The fact that I'm not a cultist MLM customer-employee who's convinced that I'm a CEO
My MLM story. I joined Advocare in 2012. I went out to eat with an old friend and she brought up the question. Looking back, it hurts my feelings because she met up with me that day for that purpose only. Then, I was a college drop out and just had my son. Low point. I paid like $200 of my hard working dollars from working retail to start my own “business”. Made a few Facebook posts and noticed no one really responded but my “mentor” (my old friend), and her mentor. . Embarrassing. I expressed that this was not for me and they said boot camp would help me. I go to boot camp and it felt cult-like, and had top selling speakers try to hype people up with their bullshit. I knew 100% that this was a SCAM and wanted to leave. We had car pulled so I had to sit through the entire thing. I came home and hugged my boy, and promised myself I would never put myself through something like that again. I’m a single mom and I hate the single moms in MLMs the worst. I understand single mom guilt. I have it every day. But I know in my heart that my son has my love, love from my parents, and he is proud of me for being a teacher (I finally got my degree in 2018). I’m not rich but Jesus. Lol. I could never sit through one of these calls again and listen to some uneducated, manipulative women lie to me the whole time.
Awesome on you! You were approached at a very difficult time, understandably pulled in, but you realized what was going on very quickly. And you left. You did GREAT!!!
I love how they presented the "sun never sets on the Empire" as if it's their own idea and not a centuries old saying used when Great Britain had colonies all over the world 🙄😂
I came to comments section specifically to see if anyone mentioned this! They don’t even get the irony of calling themselves after something that was/is so exploitative.
And as a Brit myself, I believe our treatment of many of those colonies during that time was shameful. Trust Boss Hogg and Co to completely misconstrue that statement. She is such an unlikeable personality, I get why she was unpopular... I find her ignorance and bs painful to watch. 🤮
1. I'm living for your hair. 2. Gotta love a red lippy. 3. I'm proof that bad credit can be fixed. My ex tanked my credit. 9 years later, I have a credit card, a car, a house, and a 700 credit score. You can do the damn things.
Totally agree! I moved my banking as I had to for my job at the time. When we went for a mortgage in the UK on my mother's house they would give my fella one but not me because when you move over here you lose that good credit history with that institution, the new institution was like we won't lend to you we don't know you! However we went to a mortgage broker - it cost a bit more but he did everything and got us the mortgage. Since getting the mortgage and doing simple things like buying something on a card and paying within the 56 days regularly my credit rating went up to the 900s. So you're right anyone can do it - even me with an autistic mind that numbers frighten lol x
As someone who owns my own business, totally agree that “working anywhere” is NOT free time. Have I worked from a pool? From a beach? Soaking in a bathtub at a luxury resort? Yes. Because I was traveling FOR WORK, so it was expected I still had to work. I never claimed they were “vacations” like these people constantly claim they take when going to conferences. And if I am on a legit vacation, I’m not still constantly working!
Take photos with your kiddos whether you're fat or skinny or balding or you've got acne or whatever. It's a rough world out there, we're all just people, not robots. You can live your life right now even if you're not 100% happy with something about yourself.
The mental image of multiple huns living together in the same basement cracks me up. I can just picture them arguing over whose company is the best, as well as giving each other unsolicited health advice.
I will never understand why mlms claim you miss out of stuff having a "9-5" job...I never miss my kids stuff with my terrible "9-5". I'm salaried and if I want to go on a field trip or I have a kid sick, I'm there. There may be some shitty employers that won't let you but I'm almost 40 and I've never had that problem. And guess what, I have really benefits, health insurance, 401k matching, paid time off....I'll take my terrible "9-5" over any of their bullshit.
I think sadly a lot of people making this claim were shift workers, not salaried. I have nothing against hourly jobs other than the fact that minimum wage in the US isn’t a livable amount but I could see why they say they couldn’t afford to take off work.
Acting like a basement is the worst ever. My parents fixed up their basement so my grandma could move in with them as she's getting older, and her bathroom downstairs is nicer than theirs! Basement =/= dirty and disgusting
When Bosslee talks about “not being the popular” one and now she is and that it’s not about the money-that’s part of the issue. It shouldn’t be about popularity, this isn’t high school. It’s about whether or not people are actually making money or if they are just going deeper and deeper into debt. What does being successful in a job have to do with popularity?
After the whole "count to eight," who else is here to reference the Kimmy Schmidt "I just count to 10. You can stand anything for 10 seconds." Oh what was that she was in again? A cult....
i’m WHEEZING at “you know when you’re high and you just all of a sudden become super aware of your tongue” 😂 I IMMEDIATELY knew what you’re talking about and now I can’t stop seeing her do that. but it’s also like shes mouthing along with her minion, like the girl is regurgitating a script.
This is the first time I've seen BossLee not scream at people in a call! "simple" and "easy" are not necessarily the same thing! Keeping on top of my podcast's social media & marketing is simple, doesnt mean its always easy to do
"The sun never sets" is actually a phrase that used to pertain to the British Empire because it was so extensive that regardless of where the sun was, it was likely shining on some piece of the British Empire
Dude, maybe I am just thin skinned but I am a fat broad who had MANY a basement apartment and her story bugs me. Sometimes your life just sucks. It sucks like a chest wound from decisions you made or ones you were forced into. But it is slow and steady that improves your life. You have a child, it is a constant supply of money and health insurance that improves your life. She was so far ahead in that she had a home, her kid sounded relatively safe and cared for, the father sounds out of the picture which is generally a good thing. And, Devil's Advocate, maybe this was really the only way this woman could get better and she does not mind scamming these other new gals. But what does that say of her ethics? When is the trade off between the money and willingly putting others into an untenable situation going to trip your morals? Don't you want your kiddo to have a better life AND good values? I know there is no good answer to those and those questions have been asked forever. I have sat in these types of calls (2 mlms under my belt before I figured it out) and I remember a time that this woman would have been inspiring. I am so glad that I am no longer in that situation or mindset. However, I still cherish every bloody apartment I have had because it was MINE. Those basements were cheap but I was not homeless.
Jessie trying to feign emotion while the first woman was “telling her story” was a whole ride. It looks like it strains Jessie to express any genuine emotion…probably because she doesn’t have many.
She says shes crying. She really doesnt. She's bored by her story and truely has no empathy. She always waiting for the next thing to do. Shes always "on"
My husband got the typical “Hey girl, it’s been forever” message today from an Arbonne hun on FB messenger. She used to work at a fitness chain that we both went to. She invited him (us) to some “ Taco Tuesday” thing for her Arbonne group lol. Naturally, we did not go.
JL’s face reminds me of when you’re super high and you can’t feel your face anymore and then you’re sitting there trying to appear sober and make your face move in the right ways
I've got my resume up on a few websites because I'm looking for another job... I have gotten contacted by 2 different Insurance selling MLM's and thanks to videos like these from you and Savanna Marie, I knew the warning sign that this was a trap... they texted me, offered me an opportunity, didn't mention company names until I questioned them, then they gave me invites to their information sessions. I am actively looking for a job, but getting contacted by these people made me sad because I really DO need a job, but these are the kind of jobs I want and I didn't want to waste my time there only to get depressed Keep up the awesome content so these scams stop catching others in vulnerable states!
The way she's watching the other gal in the beginning - nodding along and whatnot reminds me of Effie Trinket in the first Hunger Games movie when they're watching the video of the Capitals propaganda and she like starts mouthing the words toward the end of it.... It's like Hashtag is just nodding along to a script she wrote for the gal.... weird. culty. don't like it....
Because she truely is not listening. She is just waiting for her que to start. She is really not interested in the story. She really has no empathy even though she thinks she does.
1. The way you talk about domestic abuse survivors really moved me. You are an incredible speaker, and that whole section had me in tears. Survivors.... all of you... you got this! 🤜 2. I love horror movies/shows. 🙃
I also love how Bosslee said that people go to college for 4 years with 100,000 in debt and end up HATING their jobs. Um okay maybe that is true for SOME, but my student loan debt is way less than that and I actually don’t hate my job that is actually related to my degree sooo….yeah. I bet more people go to college and love their job VS. the amount of people that actually are successful in an MLM.
Yes! College costs vary so much between technical college to private college. It's any where from $12,000 to $200,000. I went to state college for a degree and job I love for $36,000(job pays between $60k to $80k). I just paid off my student loans last year after 7 years.
@@catz7679 yep. I went to a private college and still have less than $30000 in loan debt (had a lot of scholarships + cheap tuition for a private college). I had the misfortune of graduating during the pandemic so I haven’t found a full time job yet, but I like my chances compared to making money in an MLM. It honestly feels like the Huns who say this either haven’t been to college and had real jobs, or they’re exaggerating based on a few cases.
Being on the outside looking in this has so many red flags. I can’t believe there was a point in my life where I would have thought this made sense. I know I would have gotten a weird vibe from these people but I would have blamed it on our personalities being different. I can see myself now saying that even though we don’t jive I can find a good message in what she’s saying!
Oh and I feel really sad for the lady who has been with a controller. I feel like this is a vulnerability that the MLM will exploit. I too was with an abuser for four years of my life. You know what I did straight after? I bought a big TV (mainly because he would never let me watch what I wanted as part of the control). I still have it, I still call it my rebellion television; but I bought it with my own money from singing in pubs at the time. Not from another abuser. Totally agree this is the same as moving from one abuser to another. Just wait until that lady tries to leave - I am sure she'll see the same gaslighting and control from Bosley as the abuser. Dressing it up as empowerment is blatant gaslighting 😡
I’m just imagining.. I’m broke, so I have to borrow money to buy this product, work my butt off the whole time, embarrass myself in front of friends and family. And then, after years, I’ll get a free car (which isn’t free), still work hard, and finally I’ll be able to sit on the training call and say smth that will make the boss cry, cause she’ll be proud of what I’ll say…Oh, what a life.. Where to sign?
A friend of mine has an online shop, and he’s on the phone every 5 minutes day and night. Every movie becomes >3 hours long, when he drives he looks at his phone or even stops the car to do it (crazy I know) and so on. Working online with customers or potential customers is not a time freedom it’s a black hole… Moreover, he’s alone and most of these girls are at it even though they’re saying “we’re family”.
I tried 1 MLM and found myself with disordered eating. I know for a fact that changing to another MLM will not make that “PTSD” go away. Good try BossLee. 🤣
She's not making f-me eyes at people...she's looking at herself in the camera and is obsessed with herself. You can see it in her eyes she's preening and enjoying her reflection.
I love how she’s already starting to plant the brainwashing seeds of making them doubt their own family and friends “…because they won’t support you, only we will…” SO gross.
*Sometime, in the distant future, a child sits in an opulent estate, surrounded by wealth. Child: “Papa, how did we get so rich?” Father: “Ketones, my boy. You see, your great-great grandma lived in a basement…”
I love it when Chelsea starts a video handing out homework. I’m here saying “check, check & check!” Congratulations on 50k and you and Josh are rocking the new podcast 💪🏼👏🏼
What, oh what, did we do to get so lucky and the gods to bless us with an hour and a half CC video dunking on BossLee!?!? Whatever it is, I’m stoked! Thank you Chelsea!!!
I wonder if she "loaned" her that story. In other MLMs I have heard of them telling consultants to use their upline's why-story/I-story/whatever in recruiting if their own story wasn't "inspiring" or enough of a tearjerker or met the "rags to riches" criteria.
I don’t remember her story included living in a basement or putting anything on a credit card…. Or having 2 jobs, but she did lose the weight and has lost a lot since I met her. JL’s story was the one where she lived in a basement and charged a credit card to start her first business.
The ketotones MLM is one of the most sneakiest in my opinion. Theres a couple creators on tiktok in the recovery community that I follow. They all sell this while working at rehabs as counselors. It's so toxic & I hope they don't peddle this crap to people in New recovery. I was so disappointed when I found out
The recovery to MLM pipeline is real!! So many vulnerable people for them to manipulate. I know like 10 girls in recovery who are in MLMs & that’s only the ones I know! So shitty.
you talking about how she looks high and sleeping with her eyes open has me on the floor 😭😭 also girl you look GORGEOUS in this video and congrats on hitting 50k❤️❤️
Boss Lee in this video rocks back & forth in an IDENTICAL way to me when I’m drunk outside a bar, waiting for my Uber, and trying to stay present in conversation with my friends.
I had my son walk into my mom's house drinking the liquid death and she FREAKED out thinking it was a beer. It's fun to have a kid walk around with it lolol
When she said that she knows me, knows my partner, knows my face, and to let "the empire" inside of me I felt genuinely uncomfortable and scared. No to all of it.
She lied the entire time about living in the basement and buying her start-up kit with a credit card because she had already been successful in other MLMs, right? Or did she lose all of her money and move back into Nana's basement when she moved to this new mlm? Her flexing is pathetic.
Totally. The way she presents the story makes it sound like her current MLM is the one who dragged her out of poverty.. she's deliberately misleading the people on the call who don't know any better.
Ok so Chelsea I cannot possibly watch this tonight as I am out of alcohol. I will desperately need some booze to get through this if I have to a) look at hashtag's face and b) listen to her voice for over an hour!!! Ain't no way in hell I'll survive without it. Bless you for having to listen to it more than once (recording and editing) You must ave worked your ass off for this one. Thank you!!! ❤
OMG she reminds me of how I look when I'm wasted and my friend starts telling me a super deep serious story and I'm trying so hard to focus but all I can think about is getting TACO BELL after. YIKES
@@IAMCCSuarez that really is A LOT of boss lee, jesus... CC, I couldn't find the link to the videos you mentioned, of the person who was directly under her? 😬 I'd love to watch it
First of all, hi I’m new and I’m obsessed. I’m been on a deep creep of all your videos for the last 2 weeks and I’m hooked! As someone who has been living a keto lifestyle for 2.5 years and has lost over 100lbs, exogenous ketones are just absolutely horseshit and Jessie lee just needs to stfu 😂
When I found out that Jessies tea is called the Empire through Erin Biests video taking down the Empire. I immediately thought, history shows that every empire is destined to crumble and fall at some point and I'm exited to watch this one fall. I feel like you, Julie Jo and especially Erin Biest as an ex-member are causing it to crack.
around the 31.47 mark she was talking about how much she consumes of this product to stay focused. My assumption is she has to drink so much cause her body now demands it. Kind of like me and my prescription sleep aid. I've been on them so long that if I'm out I don't sleep. I would think it'll be the same for these products. Like you take it so much you can't "focus" without it (as an example)
i apparently joined an MLM once… all of my info, bank info, name and everything…. it wasn’t me. someone that worked at my job took all of our information and joined every coworker in her mlm. don’t worry, she was fired and charged with fraud 😌
I am sooo glad that I came across your channel!! I've been binging on your videos. Spicy Chelsea just gives me life! Lol And your make-up is always so on point boo. 😍😍💋
It’s the mom shaming for me. I was a stay at home mom, then a single mom of 2 in the corporate world. I was 22. I’m so over their narrative. You’re an excellent mother whether you’re a SAHM or working. Stfu!
So tired of people glorifying these MLM’s because they “can now go to their child’s concert” like… And how many dinners did you miss? How often does she watch you sit on your phone? I was a single mom living in a basement too (my parents 😂) and these MLM’s tried so hard to tell me “work hard now so you can enjoy later” and in the back of my mind it was always “why the F do I have to miss my baby’s young years (the very best years) so that they can have name brand shoes when they’re 12?” For the last time - I wish I could preach - YOUR KID IS GOING TO REMEMBER YOU and the little moments you spent with them coloring or talking to them at the dinner table, not what you gave them. If you have a crappy job that doesn’t allow you time to spend with them AT ALL then explore other job options. There is a PLETHORA now.
That girl who was on the live with her said her next goal is a rank 8. Assuming therefore that she is currently a rank 7, according to Pruvit's income disclosure statement, the absolute max she is making is $87k a year. That's $87k without ANY benefits, without a 401k match, working probably way more hours than most people making double that (in a non pyramid scheme) work...
I thought the EXACT same thing about the jean shorts diaper! 🤣😂 I’m glad I wasn’t the only one seeing that! Another seriously great video Chelsea!!!!!❤️ It’s so important to show the “culty-ness” going on.
The vast majority of people who claim to be "introverts" aren't. I hate how that term is so casually tossed around lately, like it's some weird badge of honor. "Oh, I'm such an introvert but look how joining this MLM brought me out of my shell." Total BS.
My husband is a true introvert. We watched several dark cult documentaries like The Vow and Wild Wild Country, and he was fine. I had him watch the LuLaRich documentary with me and he about jumped out of his skin - all those women screaming at those conventions and wearing eye-searing clothes were more than he could take 😂
That pic on the right in your thumbnail reminds me of Judge Doom from Who Framed Rodger Rabbit. I swear that villain reveal scared the bejeezus out of me as a kid and seeing that I’ll have nightmares tonight. Thanks Chelsea LOL!
Impressed and disgusted at the same time - disgusted by the manipulation but ngl I never knew Jesse was capable of sitting in front of a camera for more than 10 seconds without SCREAMING at her audience. I mean yeah she had to scream at us periodically but I am truly impressed at how long she lasted in between each scream.
I don't know who needs to hear this right now but using a childcare provider is not "someone else raising your child." Childcare providers offer a real service that is valuable to our communities. You should never feel bad about using a childcare provider so you can work, have a night off, or just have some damn time away from your kids. Do your research, find a facility or provider you're comfortable with, and USE THEM. They are people, providing a valuable service, and need money too. You don't earn a medal for being in charge of your children 24 hours a day for their entire lives. If you want to? Great. If you want to go to work? Great. STOP telling women that there's only one way to be a good mom and that's to be around your children 24 hours a day. It's ludicrous, ignorant, and very damaging. Thanks for coming to my Ted Talk
yessss!!!!
Preach 🙌!!!!
As someone who grew up in childcare, I support this wholeheartedly. My mom was there for us when she could be. I never felt neglected or not raised by her just because she worked.
Nursery did wonders for my son. He was so timid in large groups and ridiculously fussy about food until he started going there. Now he's 7 and the most outgoing, confident kid who has never, ever had problems with school and I have to thank the nursery workers for a lot of that. I'm not ashamed of that either - they're highly trained in early years education and I'm not 🤷🏼♀️
Exactly 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
"Do you want to watch a good movie?" "Nah, I don't have the time to sit down and watch a whole movie right now" *watches 84-minute long Anti-MLM video*
So true 😂
Same lol
I was afraid I was the only dude doing this! 🤣
Red flag #1: “I had to put all my trust into JessyLee”. Nope. NOPE. Don’t ever, EVER give yourself fully to someone who gains from your hard work financially.
@@taylorellison2719 Thanks. ❤️
Especially not Jessie Lee Ward
No matter how bad things get and no matter how stressful moving can get, there are two this that cheer me up:
1. Spicy Chelsea
2. The fact that I'm not a cultist MLM customer-employee who's convinced that I'm a CEO
Customer-employee 🤣🤣🤣🎯
Facts!!!! 💯❤🔥❤💯
Amen 💜 🙏
Delusions of grandeur
Same
My MLM story.
I joined Advocare in 2012. I went out to eat with an old friend and she brought up the question. Looking back, it hurts my feelings because she met up with me that day for that purpose only. Then, I was a college drop out and just had my son. Low point. I paid like $200 of my hard working dollars from working retail to start my own “business”. Made a few Facebook posts and noticed no one really responded but my “mentor” (my old friend), and her mentor. . Embarrassing. I expressed that this was not for me and they said boot camp would help me. I go to boot camp and it felt cult-like, and had top selling speakers try to hype people up with their bullshit. I knew 100% that this was a SCAM and wanted to leave. We had car pulled so I had to sit through the entire thing. I came home and hugged my boy, and promised myself I would never put myself through something like that again.
I’m a single mom and I hate the single moms in MLMs the worst. I understand single mom guilt. I have it every day. But I know in my heart that my son has my love, love from my parents, and he is proud of me for being a teacher (I finally got my degree in 2018). I’m not rich but Jesus. Lol. I could never sit through one of these calls again and listen to some uneducated, manipulative women lie to me the whole time.
Awesome on you! You were approached at a very difficult time, understandably pulled in, but you realized what was going on very quickly. And you left. You did GREAT!!!
Go momma go!!!
I love how they presented the "sun never sets on the Empire" as if it's their own idea and not a centuries old saying used when Great Britain had colonies all over the world 🙄😂
I thought I'd heard that saying before, secondary school history lesson flashback !
I came to comments section specifically to see if anyone mentioned this! They don’t even get the irony of calling themselves after something that was/is so exploitative.
Oh, the Empire was not that long ago...
And as a Brit myself, I believe our treatment of many of those colonies during that time was shameful. Trust Boss Hogg and Co to completely misconstrue that statement.
She is such an unlikeable personality, I get why she was unpopular... I find her ignorance and bs painful to watch. 🤮
And they think they came up with the quote. Isn’t that cute….
1. I'm living for your hair. 2. Gotta love a red lippy. 3. I'm proof that bad credit can be fixed. My ex tanked my credit. 9 years later, I have a credit card, a car, a house, and a 700 credit score. You can do the damn things.
ive raised my credit soooo much just over the last 4 months :) trying to get back up to 750 by jan 1st :)
@@IAMCCSuarez I am so proud of you. It's a hard road but you're doing the damn things.
Good on you! That must have been a lot of work. Congrats!
Totally agree! I moved my banking as I had to for my job at the time. When we went for a mortgage in the UK on my mother's house they would give my fella one but not me because when you move over here you lose that good credit history with that institution, the new institution was like we won't lend to you we don't know you! However we went to a mortgage broker - it cost a bit more but he did everything and got us the mortgage. Since getting the mortgage and doing simple things like buying something on a card and paying within the 56 days regularly my credit rating went up to the 900s. So you're right anyone can do it - even me with an autistic mind that numbers frighten lol x
Way to go! I'm proud of you.
As someone who owns my own business, totally agree that “working anywhere” is NOT free time. Have I worked from a pool? From a beach? Soaking in a bathtub at a luxury resort? Yes. Because I was traveling FOR WORK, so it was expected I still had to work. I never claimed they were “vacations” like these people constantly claim they take when going to conferences. And if I am on a legit vacation, I’m not still constantly working!
Take photos with your kiddos whether you're fat or skinny or balding or you've got acne or whatever. It's a rough world out there, we're all just people, not robots. You can live your life right now even if you're not 100% happy with something about yourself.
Perfect advice
1000%!!!
The mental image of multiple huns living together in the same basement cracks me up. I can just picture them arguing over whose company is the best, as well as giving each other unsolicited health advice.
The length of this video has made my day! I love a good CC Suarez “movie” night.
Heellll yes
My favorite genre
Yasssssss!!!!!!
Agreed 🤣🙌
Maybe they all came from the same basement
LIFE CHANGING BASEMENT VOLDEMORT JEAN DIAPER VIBES
POINT BLANK PERIOD RAISE YOUR DAUGHTER IN THAT BASEMENT!!
"The sun never sets on the empire" = "You will never stop working."
But that ok! You make your own schedule! You work when YOU want,at YOUR convenience. 😂
I will never understand why mlms claim you miss out of stuff having a "9-5" job...I never miss my kids stuff with my terrible "9-5". I'm salaried and if I want to go on a field trip or I have a kid sick, I'm there. There may be some shitty employers that won't let you but I'm almost 40 and I've never had that problem. And guess what, I have really benefits, health insurance, 401k matching, paid time off....I'll take my terrible "9-5" over any of their bullshit.
I think sadly a lot of people making this claim were shift workers, not salaried. I have nothing against hourly jobs other than the fact that minimum wage in the US isn’t a livable amount but I could see why they say they couldn’t afford to take off work.
Acting like a basement is the worst ever.
My parents fixed up their basement so my grandma could move in with them as she's getting older, and her bathroom downstairs is nicer than theirs! Basement =/= dirty and disgusting
It ususlly is though. A well deserved reputation.
When Bosslee talks about “not being the popular” one and now she is and that it’s not about the money-that’s part of the issue. It shouldn’t be about popularity, this isn’t high school. It’s about whether or not people are actually making money or if they are just going deeper and deeper into debt. What does being successful in a job have to do with popularity?
After the whole "count to eight," who else is here to reference the Kimmy Schmidt "I just count to 10. You can stand anything for 10 seconds." Oh what was that she was in again? A cult....
Love Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt!
OMG yesss!!
I thought the same thing!
🎶 Just take it, 10 seconds aaaat a time🎵🎶
I am glad others remembered it too!
i’m WHEEZING at “you know when you’re high and you just all of a sudden become super aware of your tongue” 😂 I IMMEDIATELY knew what you’re talking about and now I can’t stop seeing her do that. but it’s also like shes mouthing along with her minion, like the girl is regurgitating a script.
Y’all get me… I feel seen
This is the first time I've seen BossLee not scream at people in a call!
"simple" and "easy" are not necessarily the same thing! Keeping on top of my podcast's social media & marketing is simple, doesnt mean its always easy to do
For once, the decibels are in the low but what they say is still painful to hear.
"The sun never sets" is actually a phrase that used to pertain to the British Empire because it was so extensive that regardless of where the sun was, it was likely shining on some piece of the British Empire
I mean... a highly exploitative system where only an elite enjoyed the benefits? It's weirdly appropriate.
@@awetistic5295 This was so not my goal in posting this like but you do in fact have a point I didn't even think fo that
Including its asshole of course
Yes, their comparison to a colonizing oppressor responsible for global atrocities would be funny if it was an ethical company.
Oh damn Jessy Lee's back story gets more Dickensian every time she tells it! Please, sir, can I have some more pyramid schemes?
"Is it the same basement?" Girl i lost it and also PROBABLY. it probably is.
Dude, maybe I am just thin skinned but I am a fat broad who had MANY a basement apartment and her story bugs me. Sometimes your life just sucks. It sucks like a chest wound from decisions you made or ones you were forced into. But it is slow and steady that improves your life. You have a child, it is a constant supply of money and health insurance that improves your life. She was so far ahead in that she had a home, her kid sounded relatively safe and cared for, the father sounds out of the picture which is generally a good thing.
And, Devil's Advocate, maybe this was really the only way this woman could get better and she does not mind scamming these other new gals. But what does that say of her ethics? When is the trade off between the money and willingly putting others into an untenable situation going to trip your morals? Don't you want your kiddo to have a better life AND good values? I know there is no good answer to those and those questions have been asked forever.
I have sat in these types of calls (2 mlms under my belt before I figured it out) and I remember a time that this woman would have been inspiring. I am so glad that I am no longer in that situation or mindset. However, I still cherish every bloody apartment I have had because it was MINE. Those basements were cheap but I was not homeless.
I love you. I love your stories, shit I LOVE THE BASEMENT. Thank you for your insight .
You nailed it!
“You’re not humble, you’re dirty.”
I need to use this line some how 😩
The fact that she’s on the verge of tears shows you this is a cult and not a job
I literally own a small business and I have NEVER had to try this hard to manipulate people to take a job within my company… this is pathetic
Jessie trying to feign emotion while the first woman was “telling her story” was a whole ride. It looks like it strains Jessie to express any genuine emotion…probably because she doesn’t have many.
It also looks like she’s super bored. I feel like she’s one of those people who doesn’t like to listen to others, only talk.
She says shes crying. She really doesnt. She's bored by her story and truely has no empathy. She always waiting for the next thing to do. Shes always "on"
Her facial expressions is me trying to listen to my professor when I am about to doze off😭😭😭 looks like she's spacing out.
Hahaha she’s the type to refer to her parents as the roommates
Ignorance does not equal innocence … say it louder for the Huns in the back!
My husband got the typical “Hey girl, it’s been forever” message today from an Arbonne hun on FB messenger. She used to work at a fitness chain that we both went to. She invited him (us) to some “ Taco Tuesday” thing for her Arbonne group lol. Naturally, we did not go.
Ooooh Nooooo!,😱😫 hide!,😁🤣🤣✌
JL’s face reminds me of when you’re super high and you can’t feel your face anymore and then you’re sitting there trying to appear sober and make your face move in the right ways
I've got my resume up on a few websites because I'm looking for another job... I have gotten contacted by 2 different Insurance selling MLM's and thanks to videos like these from you and Savanna Marie, I knew the warning sign that this was a trap... they texted me, offered me an opportunity, didn't mention company names until I questioned them, then they gave me invites to their information sessions. I am actively looking for a job, but getting contacted by these people made me sad because I really DO need a job, but these are the kind of jobs I want and I didn't want to waste my time there only to get depressed
Keep up the awesome content so these scams stop catching others in vulnerable states!
The way she's watching the other gal in the beginning - nodding along and whatnot reminds me of Effie Trinket in the first Hunger Games movie when they're watching the video of the Capitals propaganda and she like starts mouthing the words toward the end of it.... It's like Hashtag is just nodding along to a script she wrote for the gal.... weird. culty. don't like it....
OMG YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES
This comment wins lil
I felt like her speech was scripted too. Like either bosslee had written it or had reviewed it before this.
Because she truely is not listening. She is just waiting for her que to start. She is really not interested in the story. She really has no empathy even though she thinks she does.
1. The way you talk about domestic abuse survivors really moved me. You are an incredible speaker, and that whole section had me in tears. Survivors.... all of you... you got this! 🤜
2. I love horror movies/shows. 🙃
I also love how Bosslee said that people go to college for 4 years with 100,000 in debt and end up HATING their jobs. Um okay maybe that is true for SOME, but my student loan debt is way less than that and I actually don’t hate my job that is actually related to my degree sooo….yeah. I bet more people go to college and love their job VS. the amount of people that actually are successful in an MLM.
Yes! College costs vary so much between technical college to private college. It's any where from $12,000 to $200,000. I went to state college for a degree and job I love for $36,000(job pays between $60k to $80k). I just paid off my student loans last year after 7 years.
@@catz7679 yep. I went to a private college and still have less than $30000 in loan debt (had a lot of scholarships + cheap tuition for a private college). I had the misfortune of graduating during the pandemic so I haven’t found a full time job yet, but I like my chances compared to making money in an MLM. It honestly feels like the Huns who say this either haven’t been to college and had real jobs, or they’re exaggerating based on a few cases.
Being on the outside looking in this has so many red flags. I can’t believe there was a point in my life where I would have thought this made sense. I know I would have gotten a weird vibe from these people but I would have blamed it on our personalities being different. I can see myself now saying that even though we don’t jive I can find a good message in what she’s saying!
The second hand embarrassment when she told Curtis Jackson story gave me a stomach ulcer lol
Oh and I feel really sad for the lady who has been with a controller. I feel like this is a vulnerability that the MLM will exploit. I too was with an abuser for four years of my life. You know what I did straight after? I bought a big TV (mainly because he would never let me watch what I wanted as part of the control). I still have it, I still call it my rebellion television; but I bought it with my own money from singing in pubs at the time. Not from another abuser. Totally agree this is the same as moving from one abuser to another. Just wait until that lady tries to leave - I am sure she'll see the same gaslighting and control from Bosley as the abuser. Dressing it up as empowerment is blatant gaslighting 😡
Imagine talking like that with eyebrows looking like off-brand Maleficent like, Boss Lee, what is that
There was a quote I found in high school that was like “don’t let anyone w bad eyebrows get to you”
Fancy seeing you here.
It’s so weird watching her watch someone else presenting, like why didn’t she share the screen with them or something??? So awkward.
(whispering) Narcissiiiiist...
I’m just imagining.. I’m broke, so I have to borrow money to buy this product, work my butt off the whole time, embarrass myself in front of friends and family. And then, after years, I’ll get a free car (which isn’t free), still work hard, and finally I’ll be able to sit on the training call and say smth that will make the boss cry, cause she’ll be proud of what I’ll say…Oh, what a life.. Where to sign?
I don’t know that we have any Pruvit reps here in Arizona… but we also don’t have many basements
😂😂😂😂
Lolll same here in NJ 😆 😂
A friend of mine has an online shop, and he’s on the phone every 5 minutes day and night. Every movie becomes >3 hours long, when he drives he looks at his phone or even stops the car to do it (crazy I know) and so on. Working online with customers or potential customers is not a time freedom it’s a black hole… Moreover, he’s alone and most of these girls are at it even though they’re saying “we’re family”.
Yea BossLee, I’ll be 100k in debt, but I finish law school in a year……what do you do? Scam people? I’ll see you in court 👍🏼
I tried 1 MLM and found myself with disordered eating. I know for a fact that changing to another MLM will not make that “PTSD” go away. Good try BossLee. 🤣
She's not making f-me eyes at people...she's looking at herself in the camera and is obsessed with herself. You can see it in her eyes she's preening and enjoying her reflection.
BOSS LEE TRAINING? and it’s uploaded right as i get home from work 😏 you’re too good to us ❤️
its soooo long lol
I love how she’s already starting to plant the brainwashing seeds of making them doubt their own family and friends “…because they won’t support you, only we will…” SO gross.
Obsessed with this makeup and hair combo!! You should definitely do them both again.😊
Always
Ikr! This is my personal favorite look!
You look stunning xx
*Sometime, in the distant future, a child sits in an opulent estate, surrounded by wealth.
Child: “Papa, how did we get so rich?”
Father: “Ketones, my boy. You see, your great-great grandma lived in a basement…”
I love it when Chelsea starts a video handing out homework. I’m here saying “check, check & check!” Congratulations on 50k and you and Josh are rocking the new podcast 💪🏼👏🏼
“And you know who they are targeting? Single Parents”
Me: “People who live in basements”
I was having a terrible day and then I got a notification for an hour and a half CC video. My day has now significantly improved, thank you!
Talking about how you feel when you're high while wearing a DARE shirt.... chef's kiss love it! 💖🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
😍
I love edibles. Dats medicine.
What, oh what, did we do to get so lucky and the gods to bless us with an hour and a half CC video dunking on BossLee!?!?
Whatever it is, I’m stoked!
Thank you Chelsea!!!
I wonder if she "loaned" her that story. In other MLMs I have heard of them telling consultants to use their upline's why-story/I-story/whatever in recruiting if their own story wasn't "inspiring" or enough of a tearjerker or met the "rags to riches" criteria.
I don’t remember her story included living in a basement or putting anything on a credit card…. Or having 2 jobs, but she did lose the weight and has lost a lot since I met her. JL’s story was the one where she lived in a basement and charged a credit card to start her first business.
The ketotones MLM is one of the most sneakiest in my opinion. Theres a couple creators on tiktok in the recovery community that I follow. They all sell this while working at rehabs as counselors. It's so toxic & I hope they don't peddle this crap to people in New recovery. I was so disappointed when I found out
The recovery to MLM pipeline is real!! So many vulnerable people for them to manipulate. I know like 10 girls in recovery who are in MLMs & that’s only the ones I know! So shitty.
you talking about how she looks high and sleeping with her eyes open has me on the floor 😭😭 also girl you look GORGEOUS in this video and congrats on hitting 50k❤️❤️
Boss Lee in this video rocks back & forth in an IDENTICAL way to me when I’m drunk outside a bar, waiting for my Uber, and trying to stay present in conversation with my friends.
I had my son walk into my mom's house drinking the liquid death and she FREAKED out thinking it was a beer. It's fun to have a kid walk around with it lolol
LOL!😁🤣🤣✌
When she said that she knows me, knows my partner, knows my face, and to let "the empire" inside of me I felt genuinely uncomfortable and scared. No to all of it.
She lied the entire time about living in the basement and buying her start-up kit with a credit card because she had already been successful in other MLMs, right? Or did she lose all of her money and move back into Nana's basement when she moved to this new mlm? Her flexing is pathetic.
Lolll the basement story is from when she joined the first MLM YEARS AGO. This is her third mlm
Totally. The way she presents the story makes it sound like her current MLM is the one who dragged her out of poverty.. she's deliberately misleading the people on the call who don't know any better.
Maybe they have a script. Like to talk on bosslee’s calls you have to say you lived in a basement. She’s like, we need a repeating theme.
Ok so Chelsea I cannot possibly watch this tonight as I am out of alcohol. I will desperately need some booze to get through this if I have to a) look at hashtag's face and b) listen to her voice for over an hour!!! Ain't no way in hell I'll survive without it.
Bless you for having to listen to it more than once (recording and editing)
You must ave worked your ass off for this one. Thank you!!! ❤
*must have
Good news: Most of the vid is actually listening to Bosslee's underling talking..
Bad news: She's just as annoying & abrasive. 😖
Buying into a more expensive starter pack in order to get a bigger bonus percentage... welcome back, rank buying! We missed you.
"The sun never sets on the empire" - LITERALLY a FAMOUS quote about the British Empire in its heyday - really creative, great job bosslee
Heck ya!!! Fresh videooooo LETS GOOOOO!
I love listening to you while sewing! Very relaxing!
Omg me too
I feel like one day I’m going to sassily say LETS GOOOOOO and someone’s not gonna know I’m joking 😂
OMG she reminds me of how I look when I'm wasted and my friend starts telling me a super deep serious story and I'm trying so hard to focus but all I can think about is getting TACO BELL after. YIKES
am I mentally ready for a boss lee training? only if followed by your spicy comments 🔥
we arent mentally ready.
@@IAMCCSuarez that really is A LOT of boss lee, jesus... CC, I couldn't find the link to the videos you mentioned, of the person who was directly under her? 😬 I'd love to watch it
The sun never sets over the empire is a rallying cry is absolutely wild. That’s like calling a collection of your trainings the trail of tears 😂😂😂
First of all, hi I’m new and I’m obsessed. I’m been on a deep creep of all your videos for the last 2 weeks and I’m hooked! As someone who has been living a keto lifestyle for 2.5 years and has lost over 100lbs, exogenous ketones are just absolutely horseshit and Jessie lee just needs to stfu 😂
Getting ready to do a workout. Perfect thing to listen to while I struggle 😂😂
ooooooo do it!!!! Its over an hour long too so perfect for a LONGGG WORK OUT
@@IAMCCSuarez 😘😘 appreciate the long video! It's perfect!
Ignorance does not equal innocence 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻 You killed it again, CC!
When I found out that Jessies tea is called the Empire through Erin Biests video taking down the Empire. I immediately thought, history shows that every empire is destined to crumble and fall at some point and I'm exited to watch this one fall. I feel like you, Julie Jo and especially Erin Biest as an ex-member are causing it to crack.
Hi!!!!!
Erin is awesome! I’m so glad she’s helping expose the lies 👏
Thank you so much!
I second this! Thanks Erin! Hope you are doing good. ❤️❤️ it’s Jamie lol
@@jamieirla2442 Hey Jamie! I’m doing amazing. I hope you are too!
around the 31.47 mark she was talking about how much she consumes of this product to stay focused. My assumption is she has to drink so much cause her body now demands it. Kind of like me and my prescription sleep aid. I've been on them so long that if I'm out I don't sleep. I would think it'll be the same for these products. Like you take it so much you can't "focus" without it (as an example)
Being Hammered & Balls Deep in a Hot Pocket is an absolute millenial mood, Chels.
i apparently joined an MLM once… all of my info, bank info, name and everything…. it wasn’t me. someone that worked at my job took all of our information and joined every coworker in her mlm. don’t worry, she was fired and charged with fraud 😌
Wow! That's scary, so glad she was charged 👍👍
Chelsea I swear to God this is just what I need right now. Thanks!💜
I am sooo glad that I came across your channel!! I've been binging on your videos. Spicy Chelsea just gives me life! Lol And your make-up is always so on point boo. 😍😍💋
It’s the mom shaming for me. I was a stay at home mom, then a single mom of 2 in the corporate world. I was 22. I’m so over their narrative. You’re an excellent mother whether you’re a SAHM or working. Stfu!
So tired of people glorifying these MLM’s because they “can now go to their child’s concert” like… And how many dinners did you miss? How often does she watch you sit on your phone? I was a single mom living in a basement too (my parents 😂) and these MLM’s tried so hard to tell me “work hard now so you can enjoy later” and in the back of my mind it was always “why the F do I have to miss my baby’s young years (the very best years) so that they can have name brand shoes when they’re 12?” For the last time - I wish I could preach - YOUR KID IS GOING TO REMEMBER YOU and the little moments you spent with them coloring or talking to them at the dinner table, not what you gave them. If you have a crappy job that doesn’t allow you time to spend with them AT ALL then explore other job options. There is a PLETHORA now.
I just found out one of my high school bullies now sells Pruvit. To top it all off, she took a selfie with Bosslee.
I have no idea how I will be able to sit through 1 hour and 24 minutes of Hashtag Lee, but I will do it because it's you reacting to it, Chelsea.
Shit I’m suppose to be packing … well that’s gonna wait lol
ERIN YOU BETTER PACK!
The only reason I’m packing now is because I can’t look at her, looking at me like that with her damn crazy eyes.
Savannah Marie and now you!? The perfect duo for my day
I love when the whole gang posts on the same day!!!! So much great information! Love you CC
We see you ✊🏼😂😝
Sooooo her second check was only $12 and THAT’S when she said she knew that the system worked?? Ummm…okay.
Yes yes yes I've been waiting for another boss lee training with you♡
I’ve just jumped on this anti mlm bandwagon and I can not get off. You crack my shit up. Thanks for the content! I’m addicted now!
That girl who was on the live with her said her next goal is a rank 8. Assuming therefore that she is currently a rank 7, according to Pruvit's income disclosure statement, the absolute max she is making is $87k a year. That's $87k without ANY benefits, without a 401k match, working probably way more hours than most people making double that (in a non pyramid scheme) work...
And spending 86k on products
That's revenue, not income.
“ I had to put all my trust into Jessie Lee” Well that’s absolutely horrifying.
That’s when you know things are bad... when all your trust is in JL
@@emilyrickert3545 LMAO you know your life has gone down hill when boss lee is your source for everything 😭😂
I thought the EXACT same thing about the jean shorts diaper! 🤣😂 I’m glad I wasn’t the only one seeing that! Another seriously great video Chelsea!!!!!❤️ It’s so important to show the “culty-ness” going on.
The vast majority of people who claim to be "introverts" aren't. I hate how that term is so casually tossed around lately, like it's some weird badge of honor. "Oh, I'm such an introvert but look how joining this MLM brought me out of my shell." Total BS.
My husband is a true introvert. We watched several dark cult documentaries like The Vow and Wild Wild Country, and he was fine. I had him watch the LuLaRich documentary with me and he about jumped out of his skin - all those women screaming at those conventions and wearing eye-searing clothes were more than he could take 😂
That pic on the right in your thumbnail reminds me of Judge Doom from Who Framed Rodger Rabbit. I swear that villain reveal scared the bejeezus out of me as a kid and seeing that I’ll have nightmares tonight. Thanks Chelsea LOL!
When you said “she’s like final boss in a video game” I instantly said “BOWZER”.😂😂
Omg that red lip!!! You look great in every look but I really think that light skin and bright lips is your best!
Ignorance doesn't equal innocence. So true
Impressed and disgusted at the same time - disgusted by the manipulation but ngl I never knew Jesse was capable of sitting in front of a camera for more than 10 seconds without SCREAMING at her audience. I mean yeah she had to scream at us periodically but I am truly impressed at how long she lasted in between each scream.