"If you have conflict with a person, go straight to them." *has a 1 hour video call talking about a person behind their back* I can't with these people.
I’ve been a part of Monat for almost a full 2 years. Loved it at first but 6 months in I started seeing a lot of red flags and people being treated poorly. I continued on and my Market Partner renewal date came and I renewed. Worked it for about 2 more months and then found your Anti-MLM videos randomly on my UA-cam feed. Started watching so many videos from all sorts of wonderful people in this community and really got educated on what’s really going on. I continued being an inactive Market Partner for another 9 months and then this happened to Angelique, someone I looked up to for over a year. She’s spoken on team calls I’ve attended and I’ve always loved her energy. Well the past two days I’ve helped so many of my VIPs and downline MPs cancel their accounts and first thing tomorrow morning I’m finally canceling mine.
I have a screenshot of one of my favorite tweets ever. “Someone who drowns in 7 ft of water is just as dead as someone who drowns in 20 ft of water. Stop comparing traumas, stop belittling your or anyone else’s trauma because it wasn’t “as bad” as someone else’s. This isn’t a competition we all deserve support and recovery.”
“She went on didn’t even do anything she just worked for corporate” Which means she probably got healthcare, dental, retirement, a steady and reliable salary, paid vacation, sick leave, etc 😂😂😂 and this woman is on this zoom call saying that’s a bad thing. The delusion is almost painful at this point.
Dear Ethan, I love how you made CC's recording look like she's in the zoom! DO IS THIS FOREVER PLEASE, THANKS. Also we love you, keep doing the good work for our favorite SPICY QUEEN.
This is infuriating, I watched the original video and she was nothing but positive about herself, her team and what she wants the future to look like. How dare they make her out to be a negative person and the bad guy because she is not it, she was a breath of fresh air and so relatable amongst the stepford barbies that tend to be in these things.
EXACTLY!!!! This is such absurd dramatizing of the situation, and besmirching Angelique and making her out to be causing Death and Destruction when she did everything right is so wrong.
You are totally right - Monat's PR/marketing team should quit today. Monat had such a great opportunity to show that they accept constructive feedback. This would have made them appear legitimate. I was thinking when I saw your video yesterday, "She is going to get fired. If she doesn't Monat is playing this smart. That would be really great for its image." Meaning the company is so positive of what they do, they are OK with its reps going on an opposing view channel. Opportunity lost and it makes them seem so much worse now. Cult is putting it mildly.
Can we just point out - it's NOT a "Team Huddle" when your so called "team" can't even voice any opinions, questions etc. We have team huddles at work and everyone can talk, ask questions, bring things up, make suggestions...
Yup! Racism, conspiracy theories, lies, cheating, rank-buying... all perfectly okay with MONAT! Constructive & compassionate criticism, on the other hand? Nope, gtfo.
“Feelings were hurt, that led to words” .. she means her feelings were hurt and it led to her sending a condescending text to someone who just wanted the ability to ask a question, right?? Oh no she’s talking about the consequences of her own actions. I’m actually nauseous from how manipulative she is.
Also, if this isn't the biggest wake up call to MPs that they DO NOT own their own business, and ARE NOT their own boss, then idk what will. Employees at those office jobs they love to belittle have more freedom to express concerns and speak up than these tightly regulated commercial cults. You are NOT a business owner if someone can just take it all away in an instant because they didn't like something you had to say or that you didn't just fall in line and keep your mouth shut. Questions and criticism should never be grounds for termination. This is incredible....
Right they say can run your business how you want but since it isn’t your business you can be fired. Guess What if you own your own business nobody can fire you! These people God I hope they see the light one day hopefully sooner than later
Ugh this feels so gross. To me it feels like they tried to make an example out of her to continue keeping people too afraid to leave and ruling by fear. Yikes.
Using fear AND using guilt, for sure! And those sad stories Britty said at the end: WHAT DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH THE ISSUE AT HAND?!? Yes it’s sad BUT WHAT DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH ANYTHING?!? 🙄😤
IMAGINE YOUR BOSS COMING TO YOU AND SAYING "look. my friend is sick. my neighbour's uncle went to jail. my high school friend's husband's high school friend's cat died. and you are telling me there are some problems in our business??? I have more important problems so dont make me waste time on my job to make it better okay?" lmaoo
I do feel really bad for Angelique. She doesn't deserve any of this. She seems like such a great person and I can't wait to see her rise from all of this.
I'm curious if she can sue them. This feels A LOT like "retaliating against a whistleblower", and if I'm not mistaking, that comes with a hefty fine as well as restitution to the whistleblower. I hope she hires the biggest shark of an attorney, and violently bitch slaps their bank accounts.
She's one of the MLM distributors that I hope opens an actual small business, like Tracy helped Caroline open her own jewelry business after Paparazzi fired them. Angelique would be brilliant at it.
For anyone worried about backlash for leaving Monat, we got you. Saddle up b!tches, we ride at dawn. Edited to add: Britty. Babe. We know that you know the facts of Angelique’s departure from Monat. Stop trying to distract people by telling a story about a completely different person in a completely different scenario.
The way this "team huddle" comes across is so disgusting. She sounds like a mean girl from highschool playing the victim when she's been the bully all along. As someone who went through years of bullying, this is typical mean girl behaviour and it's so ugly.
Damage control at its finest, Angelique is being made a scape goat. Any decent company would take the criticism on the chin and change it. Proves everything about Monat, Sneaky underhand tactics all the way 🙄
This is going to turn out to be one REAL bad move from Monat. Angelique is a sympathetic figure, and if they hadn’t fired her she might well be moving further up the ranks, bringing in people who might have been put off by the stereotypical rep, etc. She’s the kind of trouble a company needs to get better. Now, not only did they lose that and further damage their already poor reputation, Angelique is free - or will be - to spill every drop of tea.
Call it what you want but 99% of MLM top earners are pretty white girls.... Doesn't really appeal to us minorities when the extremely rare not white top earner gets fired over nothing. Then to assemble the mean girl avengers (aka the pretty white girl squad) to talk down about her attitude and how she comes across.... The optics aren't great.
It drives me absolutely insane how long it takes these women to get to the point. Any point. Every time they speak it’s just a mile long stream of nonsense before they even hint at what they actually mean to talk to you about.
i’m a 25 year old teaching seniors in high school and oh boy have they dealt with some shit this year: death, sa, and figuring out how to deal with normal schools and all of that having not been around their peers for two years. the thing that is really killing them is toxic positivity from our administrators, the way they talk to them like they’re 14 and not about to be out in the world by themselves, and the lack of transparency and accountability of how decisions are being made wrt these serious issues. so woof this was a toughie for me. hearing the bullshit. the performative speech, the faux anger, the avoidance of the real issues. thank you so much for calling these toxic ass huns out because this type of behavior is far too present across industries. and it’s validating to hear so ❤️
This move of Monat terminating Angelique is really going to hit them hard. If they just ignored the interview (which was very well done btw) and instead listened and made the changes Angelique was working for then we wouldn’t have all of THIS to react to and witness. I’m just happy that through this I now know who Angelique is and am going to follow and support her continuing to use her voice for change. And now we’re just another example of how the anti-mlm community is full of caring humans who only want what’s best for anyone manipulated into MLMs. I hope that if anyone still in Monat who has a bad taste about what happened feels safe enough to get out (if that’s what they want to do). We welcome any and everyone with open arms.
You know it’s a toxic “work place” when someone tells you “THEY THOUGHT THEY COULD FIND BETTER SOMEWHERE ELSE” like no they’re companies who wish you well and hope the best for you if you decide to leave to a place for more money or growth
“That’s not gonna breathe life into your business, it’s gone breathe 🔥 DEATH 🔥 into itttttttt!!!” Almost took me out! 😂 Chelsea…I support you and Angelique. As messy as this is, this is the best thing that could have happened. Truly. All the best.
Holy moly girl, I screamed when you said, Jesus flips tables at things like this. That has always run through my head when they bring faith into this scam.
Someone just lost her six-figure job without warning and without benefits. Someone they've worked alongside for a few years, from my understanding. That should feel sad and hard and heavy. But you don't hear that here, you hear about how it's such a dumb thing to spend time talking about as a team. Wow.
And if I didn't listen this wrong to the podcast Angelique was in when she got the message- one of those two women was the one Angelique talked to before the interview and was love-bombing her into not doing the interview, then literally DM Angelique the day the video was released saying "So you choose a side. Hope you know what I have to do now." and sent her CC's video of her interview, and then quickly booted Angelique out of their telegram group. That's so...mean. That's so negative and coming from a place of pettiness to the point this whole call is like "Let's all forget about Angelique, in fact, let's just forget this whole issue and pretend she wasn't even a rep like us."
The first red flag that you're in a cult is when people in that cult tell you that you shouldn't listen to the apposing group. If I could go back in time...
Monat praises themselves with products that are somehow, for everyone and “every hair type”, yet they cut off the very person who wanted to bring MORE inclusivity into Monat?! And these girls make it seem like Angelique was “jealous” and “negative”?! What are these people on?? Supporting Angelique all the way ❤️
This is my 4th time watching this video. Check out I Dont Want No Huns channel. Mallory is hilarious and Angelique is on the video reacting with her to the call!
i just saw Savannah's video, I was shocked. How can these boss babes CEOs, own my own company, not see it is a cult! and they don't own their own business when Angelique was FIRED!!!
I knew in my bones watching your video with her that she wasn't gonna be in Monat for much longer. I figured either she'd get terminated or she'd leave because her attempts to reform them went nowhere. Monat can't take criticism in any kind of useful way.
I truly think something so great will come out of this for Angelique. Seeing the anti-MLM community rally behind her and lift her up these past couple of days has been so amazing. She’s going to do great things after Monat and I’m excited to see!
Terminating her was literally the worst action the company could’ve taken. It looks horrible on them. Reps should seriously quit and stand up for what’s right.
This is what corrosive control looks like. That's why they want them to share their stories, that way they look for their trauma and attack it. e.g. Coercive control is a strategic form of ongoing oppression and terrorism used to instill fear. The abuser will use tactics, such as limiting access to money or monitoring all communication, as a controlling effort.
🥴🥴 when she was talking about hurt feelings lead to words. All I could think about was Michael Scott saying ‘sometimes I’ll start a sentence and I don’t even know where it’s going. I just hope I find it along the way.’ Woof. What a doozy !
This girl right here is what a hateful bully looks like. Making someone else out to be the villain while they make themselves to be this beacon of positivity. I watched Chelsea's interview and Angelique was hilarious and also an insanely positive person. She just wanted to make changes for the better. Criticising something does not make you a negative person! It is crazy to me how down lines can stand listening to these hunbots continuously spout platitudes and manifesting bullshit all day long. Always smiling, positive robots are not it sis. Things will never change if women like this stay at the top of these MLMs. This particular one is using Angelique as an example to scare her down line and make them too afraid to speak out about issues they have with the company. A good company/managers should always be willing to hear feedback on what they can do better. I guess this hunbot did not get the memo or her big head won't let the message penetrate that brain of hers. Monat didn't seem to get the memo either.
"It feels immature we are having this conversation". Damn straight it is. I hope everyone in the call go look at what the drama was and see for themselves
I thought she was perfectly respectful and loyal to that company while being real & honest. I hate she got punished for that. Hopefully her customers show her loyalty & leave with her.
What's so dangerous about creating an absolutely false painting of someone's character is that it SLANDERS that person. That person being slandered has to overcome the negative picture someone else painted. The intent to falsely represent someone for their own financial benefit in this situation is disgusting. This pr campaign is painful to watch and makes me so mad that they are withholding information from their team and falsely feeding information that puts the uplines and Monat in the best light.
Just because they label something or someone "dumb and crazy" doesn't mean that meets the standard for those definitions. You can call anything "blue" but that doesn't make the color of that item blue. There are absolutes that are meaningful when you are making a point, talking about someone or even more specifically to this conversation: someone's character. And when they are intentionally maligning someone, that's where the line needs to be drawn. Thanks for bringing light to this behavior, Chelsea.
They sure do throw around the word “love” a lot. Like “I love my team.” I bet she can’t name three people on her team and actually know their stories. To love someone in this way means you have to actually know the person.
I never even put the fact that you have had addiction issues in the past and the fact that you drink together... I love that! Abstinence based recovery is not for everyone, some people can drink/smoke/use other substances in moderation and not become addicted, but I feel like there isn't too many people that have a platform that can actually show this
The shampoo has indeed hit the fan. I've been waiting for Chelsea's take. Always measured, always factual, always without nonsense. Take it away, my dear. 👑
I’m always baffled as to why none of these Monat women have bangin’ ass hair. If that doesn’t speak volumes about their “business” then I don’t know what does. Like…these women should have the most glorious, luxurious, fantasmagorical friggin hair on the entire earth. And none of them do.
It's actually funny, their car analogy is a lot like how the shitty company I left justified bad behavior. Mind you this wasn't an MLM, this is a huge corporation, but essentially they started rolling out massive hour cuts right after we had just reached barely enough staff to survive. We went from being able to start fixing our stores that were falling apart to being forced back into panic mode because of corporate greed, and when I cited this as a reason I was leaving my manager's response was "well have YOUR hours been cut?" Like..??? Not super significantly but I'm having a panic attack every shift because everyone else's hours have been cut and now all the weight is on me. They really thrive off of you having your blinders on and just mindlessly trucking forward, shitty corporate bosses and MLM uplines alike. He tried telling me this would all blow over in a week and I'd be sorry. I've been keeping up with their reddit, it's only getting much much worse. These people use the same manipulation tactics.
I get you. I worked for a company that terminated ALL the employees in my department on the same day. We were then given the opportunity to reapply. I did - and was told “Congratulations, you are hired to the same position with the same salary!” OK…. Oh, and we had to keep working throughout the entire process. Best part: When I turned in my resignation 3 weeks later, the women looked up from my letter at me and actually asked “Why?” Um, you mass fired 35+ people and forced them to reapply instead of just firing the people you wanted to fire? I think my eyes just went dead when she asked that question.
The beginning of this call is so interesting and crazy- it’s like 20+ minutes of telling people how to feel about a thing they haven’t even TALKED about yet. If someone spoke to me like this for any length of time in my real life I would be side-eyeing them so hard and looking for an excuse to leave. It isn’t normal.
OMG. Chelsea!! These reps are literally TERRIFIED. I’m 17 minutes rn, GIRL, the REALITY ooo bitch The reality is setting in! 1. if MONAT is watching Chelsea - then they’re 100% watching their own reps break company and FTC guidelines constantly. MONAT just proved they only put a stop to it when the talk isn’t monetarily beneficial to the mlm. 2. A real CEO can’t get fired from their “own company” by discussing ways in which the business is flawed/needs improvement. That’s the antithesis of business. I stg, you taking the extra steps to define the manipulation tactics and logical fallacies really made a difference. Chelsea thank you, for taking the time to educate everyone, and genuinely listening.
They were handed a golden opportunity to prove us all wrong and open up a conversation! At minimum, they could’ve placated us long enough for the dust to settle by saying it’s all under investigation. Do they not have a PR person FFS??
Good on Angelique for having the integrity to do the right thing even when it’s hard!!! It was an awesome interview and I’m sorry that Monat has chosen to respond this way. I love the people I’ve encountered in the anti-MLM movement and I’m sure you will find support here if you want it. Love ya Chelsea!
I think its fucked up that she's making it seem like Angelique dragged Monat because she didn't. She said multiples times she loves Monat, I hope they get curious enough to watch for themselves and not just take her word for it.
Most of the negative things she said were about the other top leaders and the lack of size inclusivity in the clothing. Most everything else about monat was positive !
I'm surprised they don't call people that leave willingly or get terminated apostates since they're a cult. Also, I'm sorry if it comes off rude, (since it's sometimes hard to convey messages online without sounding bitchy), but as someone that almost unalived themselves over verbal abuse, words absolutely can kill. And the tons of ppl in oppressed groups that do so bc of verbal harassment are also examples. I hope you didn't see this as rude bc I don't mean for it to come off that way.
That’s how I took it too; it’s ironic though that Britty and those Monat Huns demand that others be mindful of their words and actions BUT REFUSE to hold themselves to the same level. Britty herself admitted how awful it felt when HER upline was mean to her and told her what do to and then blocked her from their group and yet, that’s what they did to Angelique. So basically, it’s ok for THEM to do it to others, but not others to do it to them?! It’s infuriating! They KNOW the power of their words and actions but refuse to take accountability for it, or even be called out on it, which is, in my opinion, much worse and callous.
I’m so annoyed with these uplines. This whole situation literally started over an innocent question from Angelique. So many people are cancelling their accounts. People won’t stand with a company who don’t back up our people. Entitled ass bitches. They didn’t even address the issue. 🙄🙄 the ceo called her a loser today too. It’s fucking sad. This is so much. I appreciate your work CC.
This may be one of the most eye opening videos you’ve done on just how cult like these MLMs can be. This entire situation made me sick 🤮. Keep up your amazing work.
There are so many things wrong with this business and MLM‘s in general, but the strangest thing to me is that once these women make some type of money doing basically nothing if you ask me?, They feel like they’re self-help gurus and basically they just spout off random shit that culminates into absolutely nothing. You can tell that these women truly are just talking in circles because after all of this I still didn’t even understand what the purpose of this meeting was?
In a professional / legitimate business, I have never seen behavior like this! I can’t imagine being taken seriously where if someone is let go, the staff talk about how it’s going to be the biggest regret of their life… or that they brought death and destruction to their coworkers ☠️
Anytime a former coworker has left my company, I wish them well and tell them how much I’ll miss them. This behavior is so ridiculous. They want to talk about his being high school drama but it wouldn’t have been if the leaders handled this with ANY professionalism.
This is the 3rd time I’ve seen this call - and every time I’m missing the point? If I was on this call I’d be super pissed. They didn’t address anything - they are saying the same things they do during every other call. I don’t understand how anyone follows and looks up to these woman. They’re just towing the line - and pretending nothing is happening. I can’t wait to see the dumpster fire that’s coming!! ❤️
They are just deflecting. They never discuss any details of what happened. So much of what they say has absolutely nothing to do with anything - they’re just barfing fake toxic positivity cult talk. She said she is rambling - at least she admits it!
They say ‘own your own business’, ‘do things your way’ but yet our girl got fired. Are they ever not contradicting themselves? It’s so bizarre how they just don’t get it… like their perspectives are so warped.
While I was watching your interview with Angelique, I got concerned that she might be kicked out of Monat. She was way too good for that company, and I wish her all the best
According to Monat, being on an anti MLM platform is “unprofessional”. Jesus H Christ these women are SAD SAD human beings!! Angelique you’re the fucking bomb!
Saw this same video on Savannah Marie's channel, but had to watch this again because you were the one who interviewed Angelique. Savannah made some really good points. This women are very immature and hypocritical. Also, I've openly criticized my company in meetings with HR and the CEO in the room. Notice how I said "my company ". They didn't fire me, they listened to me, and now I'm working on a couple of corporate initiatives to better improve the organization. They are listening and want to make change. So just saying, in a legitimate job, an honest one, or one that is open to criticism, you're not going to be fired.
I worked in an office before working in my current job, and every time I heard those huns speaking I try to picture my old managers in their place. Can you imagine a manager starting a meeting like "Guuuuuysss, I don't like negativity and with all that it's happening in the world and to my frieeeends... But we need to address this"? 😆 So unprofessional and manipulative. They really have high school mentality, instead of working environment mentality. And they tried to project that mentality to the actions of everyone else. I wonder if it is because most of them haven't grown up from that phase 🤔
So she can explain what happened to Tara but she can’t explain the issue that they are actually doing this call on. She keeps bringing in bad things that are happening to other people, it has nothing to do with this conversation! This is so hard to watch. It’s so disgusting what has happened. People in Monat need to wake up.
I am building Lego as I listen and I look back and you’re wearing the effing hat and I’m cryingggg!! Do you know how many adorable hats I have in my closet that I can’t wear because I know you’ll call me a Monat girl?!!! 🤣❤️
"If you have conflict with a person, go straight to them." *has a 1 hour video call talking about a person behind their back* I can't with these people.
I’ve been a part of Monat for almost a full 2 years. Loved it at first but 6 months in I started seeing a lot of red flags and people being treated poorly. I continued on and my Market Partner renewal date came and I renewed. Worked it for about 2 more months and then found your Anti-MLM videos randomly on my UA-cam feed. Started watching so many videos from all sorts of wonderful people in this community and really got educated on what’s really going on. I continued being an inactive Market Partner for another 9 months and then this happened to Angelique, someone I looked up to for over a year. She’s spoken on team calls I’ve attended and I’ve always loved her energy.
Well the past two days I’ve helped so many of my VIPs and downline MPs cancel their accounts and first thing tomorrow morning I’m finally canceling mine.
You rock girl!! Good job!
Proud of you! You’ll never regret leaving!
Awesome! Absolutely fantastic! I’m just sorry it all had to go down this way, very sorry. But not surprised.
Good for you for getting out! We're here for ya!
Good for you!!
I have a screenshot of one of my favorite tweets ever.
“Someone who drowns in 7 ft of water is just as dead as someone who drowns in 20 ft of water. Stop comparing traumas, stop belittling your or anyone else’s trauma because it wasn’t “as bad” as someone else’s. This isn’t a competition we all deserve support and recovery.”
They're panicking. The calls are starting to come from inside the house.
LOL 🤣🤣🤣 But true!
Love this comment!!
Who was phone?!
"Some feelings were hurt- ...
-and that lead to *words* ."
ICONIC 💀💀💀 The eloquence of this woman- unmatched.
"This isn't a difference of opinion, it's a difference of reality." YES CHELSEA
“She went on didn’t even do anything she just worked for corporate” Which means she probably got healthcare, dental, retirement, a steady and reliable salary, paid vacation, sick leave, etc 😂😂😂 and this woman is on this zoom call saying that’s a bad thing. The delusion is almost painful at this point.
it’s giving ‘sour grapes’ 😂😂 don’t be mad at us that you spent all that time in a shitty cult instead of going to school or learning a trade smh
Dear Ethan, I love how you made CC's recording look like she's in the zoom! DO IS THIS FOREVER PLEASE, THANKS.
Also we love you, keep doing the good work for our favorite SPICY QUEEN.
This is infuriating, I watched the original video and she was nothing but positive about herself, her team and what she wants the future to look like. How dare they make her out to be a negative person and the bad guy because she is not it, she was a breath of fresh air and so relatable amongst the stepford barbies that tend to be in these things.
Angelique is a real person!
"DeAtH and DEsTrUcTiON"
EXACTLY!!
Stepford Barbies: EXACTLY!!!! 👏🏼😆
EXACTLY!!!! This is such absurd dramatizing of the situation, and besmirching Angelique and making her out to be causing Death and Destruction when she did everything right is so wrong.
"The shampoo hit the fan." 😂 You're not wrong, Chelsea.
That cracked me up 😂
I laughed out loud 🤣
I need Shampoo Hit the Fan merch asap 😂
You are totally right - Monat's PR/marketing team should quit today. Monat had such a great opportunity to show that they accept constructive feedback. This would have made them appear legitimate. I was thinking when I saw your video yesterday, "She is going to get fired. If she doesn't Monat is playing this smart. That would be really great for its image." Meaning the company is so positive of what they do, they are OK with its reps going on an opposing view channel. Opportunity lost and it makes them seem so much worse now. Cult is putting it mildly.
I felt the same watching the interview but thought no way... they can't fire her and not the 2 racist chicks....I shud have lowered my expectations.
Yes!!!! You are 100% correct, they should quit or be terminated.
I had all the same thoughts. But I do feel like something better will present itself for Angelique.
Can we just point out - it's NOT a "Team Huddle" when your so called "team" can't even voice any opinions, questions etc. We have team huddles at work and everyone can talk, ask questions, bring things up, make suggestions...
Totally 😂 this is a poorly written monologue
They don’t allow people to be disparaging … but homophobic and xenophobic and fat shaming comments and videos are just fine … got it.
Yup! Racism, conspiracy theories, lies, cheating, rank-buying... all perfectly okay with MONAT!
Constructive & compassionate criticism, on the other hand? Nope, gtfo.
This!!!
And Monat claims to be a Christian company. Jesus would say “I don’t know them.”
Upline: ~the most opaque non-description of events possible~
Downline: omg thank you for the transparency you’re amazing
But yeah it’s not a cult 🙄
“Feelings were hurt, that led to words” .. she means her feelings were hurt and it led to her sending a condescending text to someone who just wanted the ability to ask a question, right?? Oh no she’s talking about the consequences of her own actions. I’m actually nauseous from how manipulative she is.
Also, if this isn't the biggest wake up call to MPs that they DO NOT own their own business, and ARE NOT their own boss, then idk what will. Employees at those office jobs they love to belittle have more freedom to express concerns and speak up than these tightly regulated commercial cults. You are NOT a business owner if someone can just take it all away in an instant because they didn't like something you had to say or that you didn't just fall in line and keep your mouth shut. Questions and criticism should never be grounds for termination. This is incredible....
facts if you can be let go, then you don't own your own buisness
Right they say can run your business how you want but since it isn’t your business you can be fired. Guess What if you own your own business nobody can fire you! These people God I hope they see the light one day hopefully sooner than later
And if it WAS their own biz they could make the changes they spoke up about and got fired over. You don’t own your own business if you can get fired.
Ugh this feels so gross. To me it feels like they tried to make an example out of her to continue keeping people too afraid to leave and ruling by fear. Yikes.
Exactly!!!
Yep, they are basically threatening these huns to keep their mouths SHUT!
Using fear AND using guilt, for sure! And those sad stories Britty said at the end: WHAT DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH THE ISSUE AT HAND?!? Yes it’s sad BUT WHAT DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH ANYTHING?!? 🙄😤
IMAGINE YOUR BOSS COMING TO YOU AND SAYING "look. my friend is sick. my neighbour's uncle went to jail. my high school friend's husband's high school friend's cat died. and you are telling me there are some problems in our business??? I have more important problems so dont make me waste time on my job to make it better okay?" lmaoo
I do feel really bad for Angelique. She doesn't deserve any of this. She seems like such a great person and I can't wait to see her rise from all of this.
She will rise!
Like a gorgeous Phoenix from the ashes!
What she didn’t deserve was to be part of a sociopathic industry. Getting terminated will end up bringing her the life she actually deserves.
I'm curious if she can sue them. This feels A LOT like "retaliating against a whistleblower", and if I'm not mistaking, that comes with a hefty fine as well as restitution to the whistleblower.
I hope she hires the biggest shark of an attorney, and violently bitch slaps their bank accounts.
She's one of the MLM distributors that I hope opens an actual small business, like Tracy helped Caroline open her own jewelry business after Paparazzi fired them. Angelique would be brilliant at it.
For anyone worried about backlash for leaving Monat, we got you. Saddle up b!tches, we ride at dawn.
Edited to add: Britty. Babe. We know that you know the facts of Angelique’s departure from Monat. Stop trying to distract people by telling a story about a completely different person in a completely different scenario.
The way this "team huddle" comes across is so disgusting. She sounds like a mean girl from highschool playing the victim when she's been the bully all along. As someone who went through years of bullying, this is typical mean girl behaviour and it's so ugly.
Agreed. After watching the interview and then seeing this, this huddle is a bad look. But that’s just par for the course for them, honestly.
Omg and the fake crying too it’s so performative
I’ve been so grateful to see how the anti-mlm community has shown such support for Angelique. It is so starkly different from the other side.
Damage control at its finest, Angelique is being made a scape goat. Any decent company would take the criticism on the chin and change it. Proves everything about Monat, Sneaky underhand tactics all the way 🙄
This is going to turn out to be one REAL bad move from Monat. Angelique is a sympathetic figure, and if they hadn’t fired her she might well be moving further up the ranks, bringing in people who might have been put off by the stereotypical rep, etc. She’s the kind of trouble a company needs to get better. Now, not only did they lose that and further damage their already poor reputation, Angelique is free - or will be - to spill every drop of tea.
Call it what you want but 99% of MLM top earners are pretty white girls.... Doesn't really appeal to us minorities when the extremely rare not white top earner gets fired over nothing. Then to assemble the mean girl avengers (aka the pretty white girl squad) to talk down about her attitude and how she comes across.... The optics aren't great.
It drives me absolutely insane how long it takes these women to get to the point. Any point. Every time they speak it’s just a mile long stream of nonsense before they even hint at what they actually mean to talk to you about.
They use so many words to say so little 🙃
@@JoAndGetFat I apaays fast forward right away lol
i’m a 25 year old teaching seniors in high school and oh boy have they dealt with some shit this year: death, sa, and figuring out how to deal with normal schools and all of that having not been around their peers for two years. the thing that is really killing them is toxic positivity from our administrators, the way they talk to them like they’re 14 and not about to be out in the world by themselves, and the lack of transparency and accountability of how decisions are being made wrt these serious issues. so woof this was a toughie for me. hearing the bullshit. the performative speech, the faux anger, the avoidance of the real issues. thank you so much for calling these toxic ass huns out because this type of behavior is far too present across industries. and it’s validating to hear so ❤️
Your students are very lucky to have you!!
This move of Monat terminating Angelique is really going to hit them hard. If they just ignored the interview (which was very well done btw) and instead listened and made the changes Angelique was working for then we wouldn’t have all of THIS to react to and witness. I’m just happy that through this I now know who Angelique is and am going to follow and support her continuing to use her voice for change. And now we’re just another example of how the anti-mlm community is full of caring humans who only want what’s best for anyone manipulated into MLMs. I hope that if anyone still in Monat who has a bad taste about what happened feels safe enough to get out (if that’s what they want to do). We welcome any and everyone with open arms.
You know it’s a toxic “work place” when someone tells you “THEY THOUGHT THEY COULD FIND BETTER SOMEWHERE ELSE” like no they’re companies who wish you well and hope the best for you if you decide to leave to a place for more money or growth
an old work place said all the time "people always come back" so smugly.
ok, even my partner who just overheard this was like "she didn't say one thing bad about Monat, it was all about that chick"
The “huddle” video by Britty is so gross! She’s absolutely an abhorrent human being.
@@erinwarner3376 it just gets worse and worse.
And Angelique didn't "demean" anyone either. So then the other party/parties should be terminated as well. I hate Monat.
@@Rxsan-l3f Def - she was very clear about it being an issue with chick's behavior, not the chick
“That’s not gonna breathe life into your business, it’s gone breathe 🔥 DEATH 🔥 into itttttttt!!!” Almost took me out! 😂 Chelsea…I support you and Angelique. As messy as this is, this is the best thing that could have happened. Truly. All the best.
Yes omg that was hilarious, I'm trying to find the timestamp 🤣 47:15
So you’re telling me Angelic got kicked out of monat for not saying anything bad but the Florida girls who literally buy ranks are not?
Holy moly girl, I screamed when you said, Jesus flips tables at things like this. That has always run through my head when they bring faith into this scam.
Someone just lost her six-figure job without warning and without benefits. Someone they've worked alongside for a few years, from my understanding. That should feel sad and hard and heavy. But you don't hear that here, you hear about how it's such a dumb thing to spend time talking about as a team. Wow.
THIS!!
Exactly!
And if I didn't listen this wrong to the podcast Angelique was in when she got the message- one of those two women was the one Angelique talked to before the interview and was love-bombing her into not doing the interview, then literally DM Angelique the day the video was released saying "So you choose a side. Hope you know what I have to do now." and sent her CC's video of her interview, and then quickly booted Angelique out of their telegram group.
That's so...mean. That's so negative and coming from a place of pettiness to the point this whole call is like "Let's all forget about Angelique, in fact, let's just forget this whole issue and pretend she wasn't even a rep like us."
I have a feeling Angelique is going to be an awesome addition to the anti-mlm community, I wish her the best!
“Train conductor headed to Coachella.” Very fitting description of the hat. Can’t unsee this visual now.
When she came onscreen, I was taken aback- like WTF is going on with all that?
I screamed!
Just watched this today and this had me screaming 😂😂😂😂
“This isn’t transparency, this is damage control” 🙌🙌🙌
We LOVE you Angelique!!!
We appreciate you SO much.
You are strong!
Leave Monat in the dust, where they belong!
The first red flag that you're in a cult is when people in that cult tell you that you shouldn't listen to the apposing group. If I could go back in time...
Yeah, the cult I was in did this. I didn’t listen, and neither did my parents, but yeah, they did say this.
This is proof they (Monat) accepts the problematic earners as they are and isn’t interested in changing for the better. F this company 🤬
Monat praises themselves with products that are somehow, for everyone and “every hair type”, yet they cut off the very person who wanted to bring MORE inclusivity into Monat?! And these girls make it seem like Angelique was “jealous” and “negative”?! What are these people on?? Supporting Angelique all the way ❤️
Is this my third time watching this call? Why yes it is. Imma enjoy it again with Chelsea's spiciness thrown in, though!
Hahaha same 😂 Savanah and Isabella 😅
@@licerazob yep!
Same!! These monat huns get more gross every time I see them
This is my 4th time watching this video. Check out I Dont Want No Huns channel. Mallory is hilarious and Angelique is on the video reacting with her to the call!
@@seg3321 thx for the recommendation! I just added a few of their videos to my Watch Later queue.
i just saw Savannah's video, I was shocked. How can these boss babes CEOs, own my own company, not see it is a cult! and they don't own their own business when Angelique was FIRED!!!
100% on point!
Britty is here talking like being fired isn't life altering or a real life issue. Like being bullied or treated like shit isn't life altering. 🙄
I knew in my bones watching your video with her that she wasn't gonna be in Monat for much longer. I figured either she'd get terminated or she'd leave because her attempts to reform them went nowhere. Monat can't take criticism in any kind of useful way.
the hats have become SO ABSURD.
also your editor is such a delight. I live for the extra spice thrown in via the edits. cracks me up.
This was hilarious, the commentary at least. Great job
I truly think something so great will come out of this for Angelique. Seeing the anti-MLM community rally behind her and lift her up these past couple of days has been so amazing. She’s going to do great things after Monat and I’m excited to see!
Terminating her was literally the worst action the company could’ve taken. It looks horrible on them. Reps should seriously quit and stand up for what’s right.
This is what corrosive control looks like. That's why they want them to share their stories, that way they look for their trauma and attack it.
e.g. Coercive control is a strategic form of ongoing oppression and terrorism used to instill fear. The abuser will use tactics, such as limiting access to money or monitoring all communication, as a controlling effort.
🥴🥴 when she was talking about hurt feelings lead to words. All I could think about was Michael Scott saying ‘sometimes I’ll start a sentence and I don’t even know where it’s going. I just hope I find it along the way.’
Woof. What a doozy !
The “they’re jealous” argument is TIRED. Not everyone is jealous.
💯
Angelique, you are AMAZING. You deserve so much more than what this company and these hateful people. They did you a favor.
Yes!
This girl right here is what a hateful bully looks like. Making someone else out to be the villain while they make themselves to be this beacon of positivity. I watched Chelsea's interview and Angelique was hilarious and also an insanely positive person. She just wanted to make changes for the better. Criticising something does not make you a negative person! It is crazy to me how down lines can stand listening to these hunbots continuously spout platitudes and manifesting bullshit all day long. Always smiling, positive robots are not it sis. Things will never change if women like this stay at the top of these MLMs. This particular one is using Angelique as an example to scare her down line and make them too afraid to speak out about issues they have with the company. A good company/managers should always be willing to hear feedback on what they can do better. I guess this hunbot did not get the memo or her big head won't let the message penetrate that brain of hers. Monat didn't seem to get the memo either.
"It feels immature we are having this conversation". Damn straight it is. I hope everyone in the call go look at what the drama was and see for themselves
I thought she was perfectly respectful and loyal to that company while being real & honest. I hate she got punished for that. Hopefully her customers show her loyalty & leave with her.
Omg the monat huns are always wearing hats! It's almost like they don't want to show off the fuzz from all their broken hairs.
What's so dangerous about creating an absolutely false painting of someone's character is that it SLANDERS that person. That person being slandered has to overcome the negative picture someone else painted. The intent to falsely represent someone for their own financial benefit in this situation is disgusting. This pr campaign is painful to watch and makes me so mad that they are withholding information from their team and falsely feeding information that puts the uplines and Monat in the best light.
I hope if possible ange sues those bitchex
This is an excellent video and I'm glad you expose this company
I knew this would happen. What a toxic company.
Just because they label something or someone "dumb and crazy" doesn't mean that meets the standard for those definitions. You can call anything "blue" but that doesn't make the color of that item blue. There are absolutes that are meaningful when you are making a point, talking about someone or even more specifically to this conversation: someone's character. And when they are intentionally maligning someone, that's where the line needs to be drawn. Thanks for bringing light to this behavior, Chelsea.
They sure do throw around the word “love” a lot. Like “I love my team.” I bet she can’t name three people on her team and actually know their stories. To love someone in this way means you have to actually know the person.
She loves the money generated by her team.
They have made the word “love” lose all its meaning. Monat will only “love you to death”.
I never even put the fact that you have had addiction issues in the past and the fact that you drink together... I love that! Abstinence based recovery is not for everyone, some people can drink/smoke/use other substances in moderation and not become addicted, but I feel like there isn't too many people that have a platform that can actually show this
I hope Angelique finds a soft place to land and bounces back, better than ever, outside of an MLM. I love her personality!
She deserves so much better. It was definitely naïve to think she could change Monat, but she can bring that energy somewhere else that deserves her.
Angelique only HELPED Monat's image by being associated with them. They've lost credibility because they terminated her contract.
The shampoo has indeed hit the fan.
I've been waiting for Chelsea's take. Always measured, always factual, always without nonsense. Take it away, my dear. 👑
I wish when she said “she was terminated” Isabelle said “wait we can be fired from our own business”
You + the hat + “the shampoo hit the fan” there is too much amazingness in this video
I’m always baffled as to why none of these Monat women have bangin’ ass hair. If that doesn’t speak volumes about their “business” then I don’t know what does.
Like…these women should have the most glorious, luxurious, fantasmagorical friggin hair on the entire earth. And none of them do.
Oddly Angelique was the one with the beautiful thick luxurious hair. Angeliques hair is beautiful
@@jimmer12911 good point! Her hair is the most beautiful and healthy.
It's actually funny, their car analogy is a lot like how the shitty company I left justified bad behavior. Mind you this wasn't an MLM, this is a huge corporation, but essentially they started rolling out massive hour cuts right after we had just reached barely enough staff to survive. We went from being able to start fixing our stores that were falling apart to being forced back into panic mode because of corporate greed, and when I cited this as a reason I was leaving my manager's response was "well have YOUR hours been cut?" Like..??? Not super significantly but I'm having a panic attack every shift because everyone else's hours have been cut and now all the weight is on me. They really thrive off of you having your blinders on and just mindlessly trucking forward, shitty corporate bosses and MLM uplines alike.
He tried telling me this would all blow over in a week and I'd be sorry. I've been keeping up with their reddit, it's only getting much much worse. These people use the same manipulation tactics.
I get you. I worked for a company that terminated ALL the employees in my department on the same day. We were then given the opportunity to reapply. I did - and was told “Congratulations, you are hired to the same position with the same salary!” OK…. Oh, and we had to keep working throughout the entire process.
Best part: When I turned in my resignation 3 weeks later, the women looked up from my letter at me and actually asked “Why?” Um, you mass fired 35+ people and forced them to reapply instead of just firing the people you wanted to fire? I think my eyes just went dead when she asked that question.
@@yesterdayitrained don’t you guys get a severance fee from getting fired? Or is that not a thing? This is a genuine question btw 😭
The beginning of this call is so interesting and crazy- it’s like 20+ minutes of telling people how to feel about a thing they haven’t even TALKED about yet.
If someone spoke to me like this for any length of time in my real life I would be side-eyeing them so hard and looking for an excuse to leave. It isn’t normal.
OMG. Chelsea!! These reps are literally TERRIFIED. I’m 17 minutes rn, GIRL, the REALITY ooo bitch The reality is setting in!
1. if MONAT is watching Chelsea - then they’re 100% watching their own reps break company and FTC guidelines constantly. MONAT just proved they only put a stop to it when the talk isn’t monetarily beneficial to the mlm.
2. A real CEO can’t get fired from their “own company” by discussing ways in which the business is flawed/needs improvement. That’s the antithesis of business.
I stg, you taking the extra steps to define the manipulation tactics and logical fallacies really made a difference. Chelsea thank you, for taking the time to educate everyone, and genuinely listening.
People get fired from corporate jobs for being racist/bigots in public.
MLM reps get fired for speaking and existing outside the sales pitch.
They were handed a golden opportunity to prove us all wrong and open up a conversation! At minimum, they could’ve placated us long enough for the dust to settle by saying it’s all under investigation. Do they not have a PR person FFS??
Good on Angelique for having the integrity to do the right thing even when it’s hard!!! It was an awesome interview and I’m sorry that Monat has chosen to respond this way. I love the people I’ve encountered in the anti-MLM movement and I’m sure you will find support here if you want it. Love ya Chelsea!
I think its fucked up that she's making it seem like Angelique dragged Monat because she didn't. She said multiples times she loves Monat, I hope they get curious enough to watch for themselves and not just take her word for it.
Most of the negative things she said were about the other top leaders and the lack of size inclusivity in the clothing. Most everything else about monat was positive !
I'm surprised they don't call people that leave willingly or get terminated apostates since they're a cult.
Also, I'm sorry if it comes off rude, (since it's sometimes hard to convey messages online without sounding bitchy), but as someone that almost unalived themselves over verbal abuse, words absolutely can kill. And the tons of ppl in oppressed groups that do so bc of verbal harassment are also examples. I hope you didn't see this as rude bc I don't mean for it to come off that way.
That’s how I took it too; it’s ironic though that Britty and those Monat Huns demand that others be mindful of their words and actions BUT REFUSE to hold themselves to the same level. Britty herself admitted how awful it felt when HER upline was mean to her and told her what do to and then blocked her from their group and yet, that’s what they did to Angelique. So basically, it’s ok for THEM to do it to others, but not others to do it to them?! It’s infuriating! They KNOW the power of their words and actions but refuse to take accountability for it, or even be called out on it, which is, in my opinion, much worse and callous.
I’m so annoyed with these uplines. This whole situation literally started over an innocent question from Angelique. So many people are cancelling their accounts. People won’t stand with a company who don’t back up our people. Entitled ass bitches. They didn’t even address the issue. 🙄🙄 the ceo called her a loser today too. It’s fucking sad. This is so much. I appreciate your work CC.
He even spelled it wrong, he actually called her a looser, lol
@@cupofcozy708 i know i seen that , wasn’t trying to match energy & bash HIM. We’re above that. I’m so appalled at everything unfolding.
Lmao “the shampoo hit the fan”😂😂😂
This may be one of the most eye opening videos you’ve done on just how cult like these MLMs can be. This entire situation made me sick 🤮. Keep up your amazing work.
There are so many things wrong with this business and MLM‘s in general, but the strangest thing to me is that once these women make some type of money doing basically nothing if you ask me?, They feel like they’re self-help gurus and basically they just spout off random shit that culminates into absolutely nothing. You can tell that these women truly are just talking in circles because after all of this I still didn’t even understand what the purpose of this meeting was?
“You’ll never do better than this job” sounds a lot like a toxic partner
I am dying with Chelsea answering to the comments like she is on the call, it’s killing me 🤣🤣
In a professional / legitimate business, I have never seen behavior like this! I can’t imagine being taken seriously where if someone is let go, the staff talk about how it’s going to be the biggest regret of their life… or that they brought death and destruction to their coworkers ☠️
Anytime a former coworker has left my company, I wish them well and tell them how much I’ll miss them. This behavior is so ridiculous. They want to talk about his being high school drama but it wouldn’t have been if the leaders handled this with ANY professionalism.
This whole thing is freaking insane!!! "the shampoo hit the fan!" 😂😂
The editing on this video is gold.
If I hear the word “positivity” one more damn time!!
I was at a HR conference and they said that word a few times, I almost gagged 😂😂 but HR isn't a cult. MLM had ruined it for me.
I kind of have to applaud you ladies you're always shaking things up. I feel like you're truly making a difference
I agree!
This is the 3rd time I’ve seen this call - and every time I’m missing the point? If I was on this call I’d be super pissed. They didn’t address anything - they are saying the same things they do during every other call. I don’t understand how anyone follows and looks up to these woman. They’re just towing the line - and pretending nothing is happening. I can’t wait to see the dumpster fire that’s coming!! ❤️
They are just deflecting. They never discuss any details of what happened. So much of what they say has absolutely nothing to do with anything - they’re just barfing fake toxic positivity cult talk. She said she is rambling - at least she admits it!
They say ‘own your own business’, ‘do things your way’ but yet our girl got fired.
Are they ever not contradicting themselves?
It’s so bizarre how they just don’t get it… like their perspectives are so warped.
These edits are everything, I'm living for them. Heckin awesome editor you've got
While I was watching your interview with Angelique, I got concerned that she might be kicked out of Monat. She was way too good for that company, and I wish her all the best
According to Monat, being on an anti MLM platform is “unprofessional”. Jesus H Christ these women are SAD SAD human beings!! Angelique you’re the fucking bomb!
Please don't ever change your editor 😂. Your commentary with the editing is amazing 😆
I love Chelsea’s haiiiiirrr 😭 it looks so cute
Saw this same video on Savannah Marie's channel, but had to watch this again because you were the one who interviewed Angelique. Savannah made some really good points. This women are very immature and hypocritical.
Also, I've openly criticized my company in meetings with HR and the CEO in the room. Notice how I said "my company ". They didn't fire me, they listened to me, and now I'm working on a couple of corporate initiatives to better improve the organization. They are listening and want to make change. So just saying, in a legitimate job, an honest one, or one that is open to criticism, you're not going to be fired.
When the second girl came in with her sailor hat I actually spat my drink out it TOOK ME OUT
I worked in an office before working in my current job, and every time I heard those huns speaking I try to picture my old managers in their place. Can you imagine a manager starting a meeting like "Guuuuuysss, I don't like negativity and with all that it's happening in the world and to my frieeeends... But we need to address this"? 😆 So unprofessional and manipulative. They really have high school mentality, instead of working environment mentality. And they tried to project that mentality to the actions of everyone else. I wonder if it is because most of them haven't grown up from that phase 🤔
So she can explain what happened to Tara but she can’t explain the issue that they are actually doing this call on. She keeps bringing in bad things that are happening to other people, it has nothing to do with this conversation! This is so hard to watch. It’s so disgusting what has happened. People in Monat need to wake up.
I swear I’ve watched this huddle 2x already. Bring it on
I was watching it on Isabella's channel last night and I heard "cuddle". 😂😂 huddle makes more sense. 🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️
I am building Lego as I listen and I look back and you’re wearing the effing hat and I’m cryingggg!! Do you know how many adorable hats I have in my closet that I can’t wear because I know you’ll call me a Monat girl?!!! 🤣❤️