The winning-and unreleased-bikes of Unbound Gravel 2023
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- Опубліковано 22 сер 2024
- Keegan Swenson won Unbound Gravel 200 on an unreleased Santa Cruz Stigmata CC, while Carolin Schiff won the 200 and Tiffany Cromwell won the 100 on unreleased Canyon gravel race bikes.
The athletes weren't allowed to comment on the bikes, and the companies weren't talking either. But here's what I saw at the event, including racing alongside Cromwell in the 100.
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Ben, congrats on your own race results. Amazing what performance you are able to deliver AND then you still go on interviewing after the race. Really enjoying your gravel coverage. Keep it up!
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Thank you.
Thx Ben - was with you in that mud fest at mile 11. When I was still picking mud, you were again riding, but, and this is the point, you were very politely asking whether you could pass. Calm and collected. A true gentlemen. Class!
Cheers, Jasper. What a mess that was, eh?!
This is the kind of race reporting we want! Great job, as always, Ben.
Thanks, CD. Fun weekend.
Love the after-race interviews with the riders!!
Great job Ben. I really appreciate the interviews and they effort you out into the channel. From Colorado Springs.
You are quickly becoming the best tech reporter at these off-road races. Thanks Ben for the info. Great digging and asking.
Doesn't get any better than this! The host, the new mystery bikes, the winners and why I tune in to see Pete post race looking like Alexander Hamilton after a rough night of partying!
the doo harkens back to older times...
Good report and Quick turnover between race and new video !! Good debriefing and good catch on the new stuff - and peanut butter / crunchy for everyone No one was immune
Great video and report. I know you gotta be tired but I def appreciate you riding the race and then jumping into interview mode to give those not fortunate enough to be there an inside look.
My pleasure. Cheers.
great work Ben. race the 100 and then scout out the new bike specs and interviews. Outstanding!
Love the channel Ben! I actually saw you at the race - I was the guy that yelled "Hey it's Ben from The Ride!!" Near the finish line. Cool to see you out there. Keep the great content coming!
Great vid like always! Thank you for bringing us the best info and the details of the day to those of us who can not be there!🙌🏼
Huge! Congratulations on the race but then having to "work" afterwards. Monster effort and perseverance! Grateful as always for what you do.
The Stigmata 3 (current version) has a fairly tall stack, so it is likely they would reduce this a bit in the new model to allow racers and shorter folks to get a bit more aero position. shorter head tube also saves a little weight. (I ride a Stig 3).
Thanks for the bike close ups and interviews. Good video
Great rundown. You really showed your knowledge. Very helpful information. All the best.
Great video Ben! It also looks like the new Santa Cruz Stigmata is using SRAM's UDH, making it compatible with the new SRAM Eagle Transmission - which Keegan is seen running. Really looking forward to seeing this new bike release.
Nice vid. I've been thinking of getting a Crux but I might just wait for the new Stigmata.
Thanks for getting some race report video up quick
Well done on your ride and the quick info on the new bikes.
Thanks for the fast upload of the post race video. I rode the CedarCross in Missouri with you back in 2016. I’ve been hooked on your videos ever since.
Whatever that new Canyon bike is, it looks even better than their previous gravel bikes
Thank god they did away with the hover bar.
Love my hover bar
It’s the new/revised grail.
@@andypaul999 I hope there's a version that doesn't run the brake cables through the headset. I much prefer simplicity and universal parts.
Great meeting you Ben! Love the channel.
Likewise, sir. When I - or my channel - grows up - I want to be like you and yours.
@@TheRidewithBenDelaney You're both class acts, that's for sure.
Nice video Ben! Thanks for the insight. It’s so cool that something special is happening re; cycling in the US.
Awesome video! I was looking for info on the new Stigmata and you're the most comprehensive of any source I've found so far. Bravo!!
Glad to hear it. Thanks.
Perhaps with the shorter head tube the frame is built to be suspension corrected - so the geo doesn’t get altered when a suspension fork is installed? (Re: Santa Cruz)
love the long, low positions (similar to road race bikes) of the elite riders. makes a bike look killer.
another solid vid...
Great work Ben. I can see a CANYON logo under the disruptive paint job on Tif Cromwell’s bike. …looks like a new Grail race bike to me. Cheers
Yeah, I mean the elements of the logo are there, and it is 100,000% a Canyon, but they have just taken the trouble to ‘mask’ the bike. Thanks for the feedback.
Excellent job Ben, on and off the bike.
Great video! Something for everyone. Thanks Ben. 👍🏻
This was an awesome take. I really enjoyed it.
Great video , thanks Ben!
This was probably your most interesting content ever! Maybe that is an overstatement. I had a good chuckle this morning as I got my e mail from Canyon titled “Canyon wins unbound”… and below pictures and specs for the Grail and the Grizl… Yet there it is.. the “new” bike that won, that nobody can buy yet. That is either awesome marketing… or really bad marketing :). I guess it will depend on when that bike is release. Personally I am really intrigued by that handlebar. I just bought an Aspero a couple of months ago so by the time I buy Another GR bike canyon will have moved on to another cool, unreleased bike.
❤❤ it’s because these races are so much fun and challenging
Massive effort Ben. Grateful for the look at Canyon's new unreleased Grail. I have all but convinced myself to go top end Crux for my needs but cooling my jets until Canyon makes it official and can evaluate specs.
this is so cool! you are great! ty for the entertainment
Thanks for watching.
After watching your video I looked back at my photos of Tiffany racing the Gralloch and she is riding that new bike.
Good spot!
As Lance wrote… “it’s not about the bike” 😝
its about the drugs, leave that asshole out of this.
We all know now what he meant by that statement.
It's the "gear" right?
Straight up arsehole , that guy
Seems to be a convergence in the gravel market, and im a fan of both bikes. Stigmata, the enve MOG, this Canyon, etc. all seem to be optimizing on a particular geo/feature set, or at least looks that way with sweeping toptube. Features like semi-integrated cable routing through headset is the sweet spot for clean set up but able to swap stems/travel with the bike. Storage in downtube will be a common feature going forward and im a fan. Only concern w/ Canyon looked like a D-shaped seatpost? Not a fan of proprietary seatposts after experiencing it with a Giant Revolt.
I love how the bikes are all completely covered in mud with an entire forest of plants wrapped around the pedal spindles 😂
One obvious: shorter seat tubes =longer seat post= more compliance
Greater seatpost dropper compatibility as well
Please do a separate video on KS’s new Stigmata and setup, especially on why he chose a smaller frame size compared to the one he rode last year, which you profiled in a short. The new one has a significant tt slope so the massive saddle to bar drop may be illusory but damn…200 miles at race pace in that setup is unreal.
Keegan has been concentrating on getting aero, he rides fast! I think you are right about the frame size, I think this might be an indication the new Stigmata has a longer reach (which IMO would be an improvement, I ride a 58 Stig 3 with a 120 mm stem). A shorter seat tube would be a welcome change for me as well, more exposed seat post equals a little more compliance, and less frame weight.
Stigmata with much clearance in the front and back, and so much a2c at the front, makes me wonder if it’s actually a Highball mtb frame with a rigid fork and some graphics to throw us a curve ball
That's the new Ultimate Gravel.
Regardless of the technical qualities of the original Grail, it was too goofy looking for a lot of riders. I ended up getting the Grizl. The new Grail should be a hot seller.
It's surprising to see that Carolin's Canyon bike with the Dura Ace drivetrain and rear derailleur didn't even have the clutch on a gravel race like Unbound, yet she still got first without any issues.
Agreed. That surprised me, too.
man, 10 years ago Dirty Kanza was a bunch of mustachioed hippies racing in anonymity. Now it's a world tour event with secret bikes. Not sure what to make of it!
Right! Isn’t that nuts?? Crazy man, just crazy.
@TADÁIAS they should have just called it the Dirty Hippie 😂
@TADÁIAS well it’s not a noun. It’s an adjective. It means: to no longer be bound. To be free, my dude
Great video. Thanks!
Going off of the rest of the Santa Cruz line-up, there will probably be a fancy direct mount version with the new sram axs, and then there will be a ‘normal’ derailleur hanger version without the direct mount
The Stigmata looks like a Highball with a rigid fork. The downtube storage is cool. UDH is already on the SC MTB range. Why not the “Stig” too?
thanks!
That Santa Cruz is so similar to my new Specialized Diverge…infact i think it is almost identical🤷♂️
Santa Cruz headtube looks way shorter, top tube is probably a bit longer as well. No internal cable headset routing FTW!
Your a BEAST!!! How in the hell did you pull all that off?
Coffee, and the love of the event. :-)
Looks like both bikes have much taller forks. They will then have better compatibility with suspension forks, no real geometry changes then.
That jives with the apparent shorter head tube to keep the overall stack the same.
I think the rules state that the bikes have to be for public sale within a certain time, so we won't have to wait too long for more info
Who knew Eliot Jackson would be at a gravel race? What is this world coming to!?!?
His brother does gravel now
Ben, if yr YT channel goes silent after this top secret expose, we'll all know what happened. Like the sotto voce, for effect. Nice touch🙂 Thanks for the inside info.
If I blink twice, come and rescue me!
The handlebar on the canyon kinda looks similar to the coefficient cycling AR bar but not as drastic
4:56 how is it possible that the drivetrain is sooo clean?!
It poured rain for the last 30min or so of Schiff's race, and the last mile or so was on pavement.
Holy shit the attrition in that GoPro shot was nuts
Plenty more of that GoPro b roll to come!
I’ve done 50k on a cross-hybrid bike with 40mm tires and peanut butter conditions. Can’t imagine being able to finish unbound in those conditions.
i literally says canyon on the side of the bike 2:46
It's obviously a Canyon. But no, there is not a normal Canyon logo on there. Look at the photos.
Uh I would like have more info about that Canyon as I am looking to get a gravel bike and the one thing that is keeping me from jumping on a grail is the hoverbar. Grizl is my preferred choice so far
your selfie perspective is unwatcchable dang dude personal bubble
Recording on the phone during a commute was a spur-of-the-moment gamble in a day that started at 4am and ended at midnight. Not the most professional, but hey, sometimes done is better than perfect. If you want to volunteer to come help me shoot and improve my filming quality, I'd be happy to help you with your spelling, capitalization, punctuation and manners. :-)
Did you notice any fork mounts on the new Canyon? I would gladly trade those for a 3rd bottle mount on the under side of the Grizl frame
I did not see any, no.
Hover bar is dead?
It ain't on that one, that's for sure.
To me On the the new Santa Cruz the top tube looks like it’s dropped and the seat tube lower from the current one like they are thinking about droppers becoming popular on more aggressive gravel bikes. But might just be me
Are chain guards not a thing? Nobody makes a carbon chain guard or some contraption to encase the chain / chain rings?
great scoop......
🎉🎉🎉
Damn. The cycling omata continues.
Quick Question: When riders set up their bikes with a DuraAce Crankset and a GRX rear Der and cassette - how is a current DA 12-speed crank compatible with the 11-speed GRX setup? Do they install 11-speed chain compatible chainrings on the DA cranks?
I'll ask Shimano and Alexey.
@@TheRidewithBenDelaney Hey Ben! I have discovered that they are just running the older 11sp chainsets…
Your reviews are the best! Thanks for the great & honest content!!
My pleasure. Thanks for sharing your findings.
Ben, Any idea of which Prologo saddle Keegan rode?
In the past he's been on a Dimension 143.
Giving extra advantage to the top riders undoubtedly works for the mfgrs and the top riders. Pretty sure it doesn't work so well for the the field of racers they compete against.
I really like that winning Santa Cruz bike and it sure looks mud-repelling with 1x and lots of tire clearance and nimble 40s, so much to like. And my favorite part is the frame, small like a BMX bike and some of those frames were the coolest in the early days, like the JMC I bought in '79 with its flat downtube. And speaking of downtubes, are those storage boxes for real or just marketing hype, are real racers really using them or are they best for tourists who like to stock up on the snacks at the gas station? And thanks for asking questions, Ben, it seems that the Canyon riders didn't get the marketing materials in time to talk about their bikes, but O well, surely Canyon will tell us a little something one of these days. 😀
Canyon I'm sure told riders not to talk about it. Specialized and other brands do similar soft rollouts of product. Not the riders' fault for the lack of communication; they're just following orders, I'm sure.
I think the storage boxes are a nice feature. Why not eliminate at least the need for a saddle bag and free up room for more necessities in any frame bags you need to run?
That's the canyon gravel cgr ( carbon gravel race) my name of course
but, but..... the spirit of gravel??? 😂
Isn't that an Endurace? Maybe they are going to do a gravel version with bigger clearance.
What was Logan Kasper on? He smoked everyone in the XL 350.
I'm not sure why Peter Stetina needed a fancy new prototype bike seeing as he hates that "win at all costs mentality"
Seriously, who ever had any fun on a new bike? 😤
Any idea what top tube bag keegan had on?
Why slick and semi slick in a ride like this? Why wouldn't you want the extra traction especially in all that mud?
The extra tread just packs with mud, so any tire quickly becomes a slick in those conditions.
Yep.
The gravel scene seems to be more popular and exciting than road at this point
Says who
It's nothing close to comparable.
@@veganpotterthevegan yep much more fun and exciting
@InMotion Outdoors it's still not more popular which is easily quantified by looking at viewership data.
@@npa5825following the industry investment and development it’s all in on gravel
Everyone I know who went to Unbound didn't even have a race. It was a long mucky walk. Should be interviewing anyone who brought a fat bike with flat pedals and belt drive.
So what are the paint sticks for, cleaning mud off?
Yup. Stay tuned for my next video. The peanut-butter mud is something else.
Thanks Delaney! Oh, was Kegan riding a 1x 42 chaining ?
Looks like the 48 aero ring...
He's been on a 50 for much of the year. I'm not sure if that was a 48 or a 50. The bike got whisked away pretty quickly.
Maybe the new Endurace
Sc is a rebadged cervelo
What's Keegan got mounted between his seat tube and bottle cage?
The chain catcher, you mean?
@@TheRidewithBenDelaney No, not that. In the shot of it against the storefront window, it looks like the bottle cage is mounted on top of something. Maybe a bracket to hold a pump or something? Maybe it's one of those WolfTooth B-Rad things?
@@thatonefeller3375 agree, definitely looks like the Wolftooth B-RAD 2 to make room for a tall bottle. It looks like Tobin barely had room for a tall bottle on a bigger frame.
Could it be a new Endurace
You look tired! Congrats on the race.
For what is the paint strip?
To dig mug out of the bike. Stay tuned for my next video....
I thought Keegan was just riding a smaller size bike to have a lighter, easier to manipulate rig, because of that head tube, and how high his seat post was- didn’t realize it was a new prototype
Pete ain't sharing...
Grail/Grizzly?? BB T47 ? Haha 😂 new iPhone 15 class C 2024 almost here
A drop bar bike is not too excited
Who's the AG2R guy?
Larry Warbosse, fresh off the Giro d'Italia. 2017 US road champ.
Logan Kasper?
Thanks Ben!!!
How about a review on the gen 3 gt grade carbon
Can't understand why people want to race on a mud course - breaking deraileurs, etc. If I were race director I'd only put them on gravel roads.