How is Keegan Swenson so fast? His coach Jim Miller explains

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  • @tlyons4758
    @tlyons4758 10 місяців тому +36

    Exceptional work ethic, attention to nutrition and hydration, takes bike setup and equipment very seriously and of course great genetics. Keegan is an expert at controlling the variables he can control.

  • @mtbrnn
    @mtbrnn 10 місяців тому +20

    Caught him at Whiskey 50 in Prescott, AZ this past year. 2/3'rds of the race complete, his pro-level riding was a joy to see, 2:30 mins up on his competitors, he went into an aero tuck as soon as he hit the gravel road. 2nd and 3rd came through and sat up to catch their breath. His commitment to the craft was awesome to see.

  • @shalakabooyaka1480
    @shalakabooyaka1480 10 місяців тому +16

    What a cool year to get into watching gravel racing('23). Keegan putting a clinic on was really fun to watch. As I'm sure you are aware he's always on his bike on IG. The guys a machine. I'm pumped for this next year of racing.

  • @cammayfield1800
    @cammayfield1800 10 місяців тому +13

    Keegan passed me on his inbound portion at the LT100 this year and the dude looked like he was on a YZ250!!!

  • @cjgauss6079
    @cjgauss6079 10 місяців тому +8

    Great interview. Jim is a Legend. Great to hear from him.

  • @stevenjwagner
    @stevenjwagner 9 місяців тому +1

    Great inerview with Jim about the professional side of racing for someone like Keegan. Nice job Ben. Smart questions.

  • @bogdanc2309
    @bogdanc2309 10 місяців тому +7

    Super interesting content, such an insightful interview! Great work, as usual! 💪

  • @willseeways
    @willseeways 9 місяців тому

    This is one of the best interviews in sports, in general, that I have ever seen. You just don't see this level of number monitoring and honesty in sports. Great interview questions to drive into the details. Maybe not, in film quality, as something like Michael Jordan'
    s documentaries, but it is impossible to express how much I, and the world, appreciates this level of insight on this particular topic.

  • @bobobobo6400
    @bobobobo6400 10 місяців тому +15

    Wait, I thought Keegan followed a mid-volume SS base TrainerRoad plan?

    • @ezramullen4551
      @ezramullen4551 5 місяців тому +1

      Yeah he just does the entire thing every week 😂

  • @robbchastain3036
    @robbchastain3036 10 місяців тому +1

    I'm happy for these top gravel guys and gals that they are making a living from the sport, and I'm enthusiastic about the sport of gravel for all, everyone from elite racers to those just aiming for some good times on the long and gravel road. And thanks, Ben, for this chat, and I'll watch it a couple of more times so I'll be ready for the Lifetime series. Or maybe just Unbound. And then my name won't get picked, so I'll just wait for next year, faster than ever, if only in my imagination. 😀

  • @TyTy22_
    @TyTy22_ 10 місяців тому +2

    Always wondered what Keegan’s training looked like outside of Strava data. Thanks for the interview

  • @flamencoguru
    @flamencoguru 10 місяців тому +2

    Excellent interview with some awesome and mindblowing insight! Thanks!

  • @JoshMcGehee
    @JoshMcGehee 10 місяців тому

    Fun interview. Thanks, Ben!

  • @lukepowell1201
    @lukepowell1201 10 місяців тому +1

    Great interview overall. Definitely some insights and quite a bit of backstory to be gained. As someone focused on my own training to do some big gravel events this coming year I was kinda hoping for more specifics of what type of workouts seemed to make a difference for Keegan's development and maybe some unknown information about how Keegan integrates his strength training as several have pointed to that as a difference maker for him. I did however especially appreciate the clarification on the interest for/from the World Tour teams and the story about training with Matteo Jorgensen was cool. Again, however, that's kind of reiterating that Keegan is really strong and maybe not as much giving insight on how he got to be that way.

    • @robbchastain3036
      @robbchastain3036 10 місяців тому

      I like your comment and yes, specifics on training are what I prefer, too, yet understandably some cards need to be held close to the vest, especially for a pro in the glorious sunshine of a career peak. Yet so much is available about training and nutrition and tactics and tech, and I'd say use it all to craft your own plan and perhaps make surprising personal discoveries along the way. And my one main tip, just me as a lifelong rider, would be to be wildly enthusiastic about whatever training you opt to do. Make your time and conditions count and call it perfect 'me time" because it is just you and your pursuit of strength and stamina for speed on the gravel, making the pretenders eat your dust. And I grin bit nothing wrong with being fierce and focused to the checkers with plenty of time to cheer the later arivals like me, but hey, I might be first in the over-60 class. Just tell me where I can get my trophy. I'll set it on the dash of my custom Chevy van with a fading mural of a sunset on the sides. 😀

  • @xmrbones9577
    @xmrbones9577 10 місяців тому

    Big fish/Big pond for sure. So impressive and fun following Keegan. Regardless of how he stacks up with the worlds very best, there’s a certain exciting element for us in NA having him.

  • @StephanieLuff
    @StephanieLuff 10 місяців тому +3

    It’s been fun to watch a strong American cyclist race in America and lift up the caliber of the discipline in the process

    • @jempanuncialman9361
      @jempanuncialman9361 9 місяців тому

      It's more fun to watch more American Cyclist Race and compete at the European tour

    • @aethylwulfeiii6502
      @aethylwulfeiii6502 9 місяців тому

      I think Matthew Riccotello is faster than Swenson, and about 9 years younger, and they both have ridden and trained together in Arizona before.

  • @stevekelly6544
    @stevekelly6544 10 місяців тому +2

    Keegan is just a cool dude on top of being an amazing athlete, he’s just a guy who loves riding bikes, and so am I….

  • @riderrunco
    @riderrunco 10 місяців тому

    Great chat

  • @Tahoedanis
    @Tahoedanis 10 місяців тому +1

    Awesome content !

  • @Ih8GoogleandApple
    @Ih8GoogleandApple 10 місяців тому +20

    Keegan’s secret weapon is his discipline to follow the program his coach set up and execute the strategy in races. He had a great gravel worlds race as well.

    • @JackMott
      @JackMott 10 місяців тому +7

      Oh wow, follows the program, no other athlete has ever done that, that is the secret!

    • @sambrown1779
      @sambrown1779 10 місяців тому +1

      😂😂😂

  • @JRmntain
    @JRmntain 10 місяців тому +10

    Just ride 300w for 8hrs 😳

  • @adamcoppock5018
    @adamcoppock5018 10 місяців тому

    Great interview

  • @blairdalgleish8247
    @blairdalgleish8247 10 місяців тому

    Great insightful video

  • @robschafer2723
    @robschafer2723 10 місяців тому

    Great content Ben!

  • @evdb7246
    @evdb7246 10 місяців тому

    Really enjoyed this one.

  • @stevencole7331
    @stevencole7331 8 місяців тому

    Best descion he ever made coaching Keegan .

  • @alanhickerson2345
    @alanhickerson2345 10 місяців тому +3

    I would be interested in what he eats macro wise and how many calories he is taking in!

    • @Dispariabooks
      @Dispariabooks 10 місяців тому +2

      The short answer is all of them. All the calories.

    • @durianriders
      @durianriders 10 місяців тому

      he CHUGS the sugar.

  • @jempanuncialman9361
    @jempanuncialman9361 9 місяців тому

    It is effective to put a chainguide to prevent chain drop?

  • @terrillford7784
    @terrillford7784 10 місяців тому

    Damn great interview very informative

  • @jamescampbell3483
    @jamescampbell3483 10 місяців тому

    Great video

  • @PtWhiteBelt
    @PtWhiteBelt 9 місяців тому

    Keegan finished Gravel Worlds in +6:48 in 5th. Wout was held up for over 10 minutes after a group crash, puncture and mechanical and finished +8:24.
    This was also a race without MVDP and Pidcock.
    Anyone needing further context for fish-pond ratio needs only to look at what happened when Kasia raced Big Sugar and not only wiped the floor with the top ladies who were all racing but made Sofia (who thoroughly dominated the GP) give up while trying to hang with her.
    Also, how well did Keegan do when he raced XC in Europe? Right.

    • @harizavdic4893
      @harizavdic4893 6 місяців тому

      You are comparing apples and oranges. 5th in the worlds is not bad. XCO is different then long distance 100k races. He is not training for XCO races. Just like Nino is not training for marathon races. Also you are looking at 1 gravel race.
      Plus cycling is so much bigger in Europe than USA.

    • @PtWhiteBelt
      @PtWhiteBelt 6 місяців тому

      @@harizavdic4893 Well, top Europeans have no incentive to leave their leagues and go do Lifetime stuff, but keep watching Keegan try his hand in the Gravel worlds and see what happens. Or when Kasia or others go and make mince meat off of the GP dominator.

    • @harizavdic4893
      @harizavdic4893 6 місяців тому

      @@PtWhiteBelt seems like Keegan did well with a 5th finish. What more do you want from a athlete who is not used to competing in that environment.
      Kasia is a world class athlete. She dominates in Europe of course she will in the USA. She is a WORLD champion.
      Plus Sofia finished 25th that race. She didn’t even really race. Plus she just happens to be good. And is not at the European level like Kasia.
      I don’t you are giving enough credit where it’s due. Plus Kasia said it was a very relentless course, much more climbing than expected. Also it’s less likely for them to chase an athlete that’s not in the GP.
      Like I said cycling is much bigger in Europe and it’s just starting to pick up steam here. The GP has only been around for few years.
      That’s almost like comparing the English premier league with the MLS.

    • @PtWhiteBelt
      @PtWhiteBelt 6 місяців тому

      @@harizavdic4893 Sofia raced until Kasia put the hammer down after the detour. Until then she kept trying to compete. When that happened, suddenly she was just having fun - lol.
      Re Keegan, it's not about him but his fans who are delusional and keep insisting he has world tour/european XC level. He doesn't, but he isn't less of a beast anyway.

    • @harizavdic4893
      @harizavdic4893 6 місяців тому

      @@PtWhiteBelt I’m not a fan of ether really. I’m just saying I don’t think you give Keegan enough credit. He went and completed at the highest level and did well. I think he is capable of completing in Europe and he proved it. But at this point in his career I don’t think it’s worth it to him to go to Europe. He only has few years then he will drop off due to age.
      The results didn’t affect Sofias standings in GP. Still finished 1st. She could have at least competed for 2nd. Coming 2nd to a world champion wouldn’t be a bad thing. Lol
      But the women here, I think only Hannah Otto competed in Europe. Not sure how she did or what events. I wouldn’t really say Sofia is that dominant here. I don’t think she is the Keegan of women side. I’m not sure that she would be even top 15-20 in Europe. I don’t really follow except XCO, marathon, downhill and enduro. Lol
      I’m just happy to see my country Bosnia 🇧🇦 represented in the UCI marathon distance by Lejla Njemčević.
      But come man be a little fair at least. Kasia is on a different level. She came in wearing a UCI champion jersey.
      It would be like Nino coming over here to do some XC racing. Lol
      But I do think in the future is the GP grows you will see more European athletes participating in more events.

  • @alexhowes6192
    @alexhowes6192 10 місяців тому

    Jim❤

  • @oliverjacobs8594
    @oliverjacobs8594 10 місяців тому +1

    when they say he can ride 6.2 or 6.3 are they talking about ftp, lt2, vo2 max or something else?

    • @K-lu4nc
      @K-lu4nc 10 місяців тому +2

      Watts per kilo.

    • @oliverjacobs8594
      @oliverjacobs8594 10 місяців тому +1

      @@K-lu4nc well yeah I assumed as much I'm just wondering if there referring to the watts per kilo of his ftp or vo2 max.

    • @aethylwulfeiii6502
      @aethylwulfeiii6502 9 місяців тому +1

      Typically those numbers are like 20 minutes to 1 hour power. Vo2 max would be even higher.

  • @onlyfoolriding8223
    @onlyfoolriding8223 10 місяців тому +3

    300 watts for 8 hours. Bro, that is so insane. I had to work my dick off to even do 290 watts for an hour at 73kg.

  • @georgetapley776
    @georgetapley776 10 місяців тому +5

    While now the new fashionable number is FTP. But the reality is VO2 max. Keegan is probably somewhere in the high 80’s or low 90’s for VO2. From what i heard from friends in Utah is that as a 12-14 year old he was beating grown men in mountain bike races. So, he was just like Lemond at an early age. Probably a wattage monster like Bostick or Frey. (I was in the room when both of them were tested. All about where Keegan wants to make his money. To have such talent.

    • @nicholaslysne9922
      @nicholaslysne9922 10 місяців тому

      Truth, I’m an SLC local and Keegan regularly rides 3-5 times over guardsman pass during training rides. To be specific, 3-5 times over the top and down S a part of a much longer ride. Pretty normal day on the bike for him from what I can tell

    • @futsalkeegan
      @futsalkeegan 9 місяців тому +2

      I’m curious why the reality is VO2 max? Oxygen consumption doesn’t make the pedals turn - watts do.

    • @keirfarnum6811
      @keirfarnum6811 5 днів тому

      A friend of mine rode with Bostisaurus and Frey in Albuquerque. Those guys were animals. He told me once about a crit where Bostick noticed the rain about to start, went OTF, and was coming around the corners sliding sideways into a curb and then would use the curb to straighten up and keep going. By getting out front, he was able to go faster than everyone else and they couldn’t catch him because of the rain. Mental! Another time they got back from a race and were completely hammered drunk and Frey couldn’t even walk straight, but managed to climb on his bike with a duffel bag on one shoulder and the frame set he won on the other, and pedal home with no problems. For many years Frey was the world’s 3rd fastest hour record. I wish there was more documentation about this era of American cycling.

    • @keirfarnum6811
      @keirfarnum6811 5 днів тому

      @@futsalkeegan
      VO2 translates into watts though. More oxygen equals more energy.

  • @yarlon2014
    @yarlon2014 10 місяців тому +14

    Sadly close to no actual information about his training or anything specific.

    • @famba0
      @famba0 6 місяців тому

      Closely guarded trade secrets. As well they should be while actively competing. They will probably be revealed one day in his best selling book after retirement😂

  • @cervelodavid
    @cervelodavid 10 місяців тому +2

    Fuego XL not Fuego. Fuego is a much shorter course.

  • @craigcooper1776
    @craigcooper1776 6 місяців тому

    Nutrition plans?

  • @Viamscience
    @Viamscience 2 місяці тому

    I genuinely wonder though how he would stack up against the average TdF domestique. Or a Tom Pidcock.

  • @MorganBrown
    @MorganBrown 10 місяців тому +3

    I have a feeling that his volume will need to decline if he’s going to be successful internationally

    • @veganpotterthevegan
      @veganpotterthevegan 10 місяців тому +3

      He finished 5th at worlds. That's definitely success. He also improved a lot the last few years doing this volume

    • @Eramsay121
      @Eramsay121 10 місяців тому +3

      behind a 43 year old, retired alejandro valverde

    • @veganpotterthevegan
      @veganpotterthevegan 10 місяців тому

      @Eramsay121 A 43yr old that EVERY world tour team would sign if he were up for it🤡

    • @ckcbmrice
      @ckcbmrice 10 місяців тому +8

      @@Eramsay121 Are you really minimizing a 5th place finish at Worlds? Valverde got an 11th place start and Keegan had to fight from 90th on a course not set up for passing. Keegan also had to fight back from a crash. Good chance that if he had a decent start position he gets a podium.

  • @aaronhamlen8215
    @aaronhamlen8215 5 місяців тому

    Interesting video. Why not try the world tour for a couple of years. If you don't like it, return to racing gravel in the USA. I would think that winning the same races every year would not be challenging, especially for such a gifted athlete.

  • @KidFury27
    @KidFury27 3 місяці тому

    Best joke ever:
    "Hey, coach why don't we go to the Commonwealth games?"
    "Because we won our war, son"
    -- Jim Miller

  • @bagofchips55
    @bagofchips55 10 місяців тому

    Wonder how he would do in Europe

  • @theademerckxfiles9967
    @theademerckxfiles9967 10 місяців тому +1

    Hmm… that coach didn’t really give anything away did he?

    • @aethylwulfeiii6502
      @aethylwulfeiii6502 9 місяців тому

      Big volume works,and you got to build into that slowly.

  • @jk2302
    @jk2302 10 місяців тому +1

    Ok Keegan is fast and trains hard, we get it BUT the real question is how do we become as handsome as Ben Delaney in our silver fox era? Asking as a millenial....

  • @ds6914
    @ds6914 10 місяців тому +1

    How is Keegan Swenson so fast?
    It's due to pushing the pedals hard for a long time

  • @pl4free
    @pl4free 10 місяців тому +2

    Yes, how was any other cyclist in history much faster than his competitors?! Better just to enjoy the show without asking these question.

  • @HazzyWazzey
    @HazzyWazzey 9 місяців тому

    There’s no medals without meddled blood work

  • @leeburke9879
    @leeburke9879 9 місяців тому

    I hope to see him with the likes of sepp kuss, to see how he stacks up against European best. I know he rode the gravel world championship but was a disappointment

  • @pmcmpc
    @pmcmpc 10 місяців тому +52

    There's ZERO dope testing at these events. Is this the same VP of USA Cycling Jim Miller who was there from 2001, all through the US Postal / Discovery / Armstrong days, and then fallout, and avoided any cleaning of house. Or is it a different one?

    • @matthewfallon1635
      @matthewfallon1635 10 місяців тому +13

      Ya know ive known and worked around Jim for
      20 plus years he aint about that at all!!! And KS is subject to testing via usada

    • @matthewfallon1635
      @matthewfallon1635 10 місяців тому +1

      Jim was running T mobile
      Womens in 2001 i believe, Jiri and others were the heads of usac at the time Jim was a director and coach more on the womens side of usac during that era

    • @pmcmpc
      @pmcmpc 10 місяців тому +11

      @@matthewfallon1635 In 2001 maybe, later not. He was a part of USA Cycling's stone walling policy when the revelations came out. He didn't resign, as the entire leadership should have done but didn't. Re: testing, neither USA Cycling nor USADA release records of who has been tested, when, and how many times, for amateurs or pro-ams (he's essentially the latter). Since that's the case, I think you can assume it's close to zero for everyone except UCI-WT pros in the US. Also no blood passports.

    • @matthewfallon1635
      @matthewfallon1635 10 місяців тому

      @@pmcmpc hey all i can speak on is my experience with the man and ive never seen Jim partake in it, in any form. You can allege things all ya want and that is your right and i support it, im just saying from my dealings with him as a usac mech i never saw or even heard a rumor about Jim helping cheats. I cant speak to what happened when i wasnt present. Just saying as a guy who was there i didnt see any doping with usac. Now proteams thats where most of the issue was and yea i saw some stuff but never with JM. Also as far as testing athletes my girlfriend who was on the national team (track) and on a proteam was tested a 5-6 times a year at our house and even more when racing and travelling….not sure whos getting tested or how often theu are nowadays but i hope they still get tested. And if you have a pro license you are open to testing at any time i believe

    • @Bigkidbird4
      @Bigkidbird4 10 місяців тому +5

      Keegan dope tests regularly

  • @mutleyadamsracing2684
    @mutleyadamsracing2684 10 місяців тому +2

    Theres no dope testing in the high lifetime events.

  • @BERGAMOGRAVEL
    @BERGAMOGRAVEL 9 місяців тому +1

    Who is the World Champion? A road cyclist.... 😀

  • @sambrown1779
    @sambrown1779 10 місяців тому +3

    And I stopped watching halfway through the "coaches" explanation of the relationship with the rider.....sorry dude. Not your best content ✌️😎

  • @BOB-cf5tp
    @BOB-cf5tp 10 місяців тому

    Why dont they just make a class of racing that allows performance drugs? Let those who want to race against others who juice.

  • @sambrown1779
    @sambrown1779 10 місяців тому +1

    So fast 🤔🤔🤔🤔 where there's smoke...😬 there's missed tests

  • @cureone
    @cureone 10 місяців тому +1

    i would not like my coach going on a podcast and talking about me for 20 minutes

  • @linesided
    @linesided 10 місяців тому +5

    Great discussion, but honestly hard to watch two dudes chatting for 20 mins. Unless you were both on a bike. Like Oss and Sagan. Keep up the great work!

    • @TheRidewithBenDelaney
      @TheRidewithBenDelaney  10 місяців тому +3

      Thanks for the feedback.

    • @iamnicoalfonso
      @iamnicoalfonso 10 місяців тому +15

      @@TheRidewithBenDelaney You're good Ben. Plenty of people out there have the attention spans to listen to 3-5 hour podcasts. If anything, more long form stuff is well appreciated. You were great to listen to on Ted King's podcast.

    • @patrickseibold3829
      @patrickseibold3829 10 місяців тому +2

      "Old guys and gals on bikes, in the cold, getting coffee." I'm thinking of former pros, CEOs, artists, etc...

    • @bruceh5933
      @bruceh5933 10 місяців тому +3

      I just put the phone in my pocket and gad on my headphones while doing chores and it was 👌. (Music at the end was a little bit loud though if any constructive criticism to be said)

  • @ilanpi
    @ilanpi 10 місяців тому +4

    He got beat by a 40+ master.

    • @MorganBrown
      @MorganBrown 10 місяців тому +4

      Haha who happened to be named Valverde. But yeah when I saw that he was 5th at worlds, it was a wake up call for US vs international talent

    • @bobfoster687
      @bobfoster687 10 місяців тому +1

      @@MorganBrownMuch shorter course in Europe than in the USA!

    • @veganpotterthevegan
      @veganpotterthevegan 10 місяців тому +2

      A guy that could still potentially podium in a monument/classic. It's not like there haven't been +40yr old Olympic medalists in other sports that favor youth even more than cycling does.

    • @I-Wumbo-x3b
      @I-Wumbo-x3b 10 місяців тому +2

      Starting 200 wheels back in a race that was strung out from the gun. How many matches would you burn navigating a pack of that caliber? And then to even be in the mix for a podium? Give it a rest

    • @AllorNone23
      @AllorNone23 10 місяців тому +9

      😂hillarious how you say "40 + master" as if referring to Dave the bike shop owner who can still take pulls on the weekend group ride. Valverde is still tearing legs off of young Euro's in grand tours my man. Geezus. You should be saying Keegan almost beat a legend.

  • @-es2bf
    @-es2bf 5 місяців тому +1

    Lol. A pro rider too slow for the road so he races against weekend warrios with full time jobs and families, while he can train and race full time. what a joke. Another "american super hero"

    • @michaelmumford1335
      @michaelmumford1335 Місяць тому

      Somebody is jealous....He gets to win and bike all the time. Sounds like an amazing time to me.