I’ve not worked personally with Ian Brown but he was working in the same studio complex as i was with a producer 5 years ago. He was the most genuine, decent, respectful, friendly dude to walk through the door. He was even bantering with my toddler son in reception about football. Absolute legend. Steve Jones has improved over the years but oh… what a cock he was.
Met him once after a gig he was playing with UNKLE. Knew the Promoter so we'd kinda taken over his personal VIP area. It was meant for him to chill out in. But he was cool about it. Anyway, Ian Brown, THE Ian Brown, starts strolling up the steps to his VIP & I'm standing at the top of the steps. And instead of saying "loved the gig" or "you were great" I was in such awe that I just blanked. Like absolutely NOTHING appeared in my mouth or head. I just stood their staring at him like a mannequin, with my mouth open in a slack jawed kinda way, & my hand sticking out. But fair enough, he just smiled, said thank you, & shook my hand. So obviously I wasn't the first person to go into complete brain meltdown when meeting him. If anything, his polite laugh made me think it happens more often than you'd think. Sadly I was in my mid thirties when this happened. So I didn't even have the excuse of being young & dumb. But I'd been a fan 20+ years so that's my excuse. He didn't hang around long, but he made sure to say hello to everyone. And no, I didn't attempt a second conversation. Couldn't take the embarrassment of another brain freeze. It was all cool, and a great night. James Lavelle from UNKLE is an absolute legend. Soundest guy ever. We ended up out on a bender with the Promoter, Club Bookers, UNKLE, suppprt DJ, etc for 3 days straight afterwards. It was extremely messy but everyone held their own. What I'd give to be young again.
@@pjnolan7989I understand I did security at Blur's recent concerts in Wembley, I've had a massive crush on Damon since I was a kid and there I was stood backstage with the band and their friends and families...I could barely get a hello out, he did smile at me a couple of times though.... I'm in my mid 30's too 😂😂
lol Ian brown went to prison for threatening to cut off the hands of a flight attendant. You don’t have to pretend he is a great guy just because the Stones roses have some great songs
@@Dangerman5 Yea, that was not good and justice was served… over 25 years ago. As I originally stated. I’ve worked in studios in London my entire career and experienced all types. He was one of the decent ones.
I complained to Ch4 to get this condescending individual removed from ruining the F1 show several years ago but obviously fell on deaf ears. Anyone driver he interviews must have sore toes afterwards after asking relevant questions like "What are your favourite colour of socks?" God knows why David Coulthard puts up with his drivel.
What a bell-end Steve is. Ian’s was a good and interesting answer that deserved respect to let him explain to an audience that would have been interested and educated. That’s the problem you get when the interviewer thinks they’re more important than the artists.
@@slees1847 That’s true. I think had the interviewer shown a bit of interest and respect, he wouldn’t have had to repeat and may have gone on to say more, which would have been interesting.
Think he dislikes drugs? Anti drugs? Unless decided to jump in. He was on point. Ask question cut me off! Yes. Oh do that dance for me! Jones prick. Ian brown is bit of privk having bouncer hold guy down while he knocks him about but Steve here is interviewer. Not star! If 2 normal people talking it would be ! Oi I was answering your ! question! Steve Jones. Oh it got worse. Mixer! Bitch really. Get off tv.
It wasn't merely interrupting. The middle class no talent idiot asked them if they were writing the same songs when they tried to write new ones. If he had the opinion that some of their songs were the same as new ones he should have asked them about what songs specifically. He then rushed them to answer because he had a question set up and he wanted it answered the way he wanted it answered, which is bad interviewing again. The question claimed they were rivals of other bands and asked them about fighting styles ffs. The posh interviewer was nervous around them and shouldn't have been interviewing them. He didn't even ask about the dance Brown brought up which was answering his stupid question.
To be fair, when given the chance to finish what he was saying, he just repeated what he had already said - he didn't have anything to add the first time around.
I remember watching this at the time and didn't understand why Ian Brown was so aggressive. Watching it now, 15 years older and wiser, I understand what a bell end the host was being.
Brown thinks he is good at martial arts but watch the Yt vid ' Ian Brown fight', he only starts really hitting someone after 5 others are pummeling a bouncer who's down already.
@@permaveg Agreed. I remember being so disappointed when I saw that bouncer clip with Brown taking cheap shots at someone on the floor. I'm not sure a martial arts expert would even do that.
I've heard he's a black belt, good for him, but if a blackbelt from our dojo threatened to knock someone out ,they'd have their belt taken off them ,whether this presenter was being a knob or not its not the martial arts ethos to threaten to knock them out .
Yeah, I reckon he cacked his trollies. If you noticed in the video when the interview is over and it cuts to outside where he talks to some other posh bell-ends, he's wearing different jeans! The ones he interviewed Ian in are soaking in some bleach and warm water.
I want to see the bit after where he says it got "uglier". Ian brown is one of the most humble funniest people. If you watch him on a brush with the stars you'll see. Steve Jones was being dissmisive and passive aggressive in small ways, enough for someone with intelligence and morals to call him out.
I agree completely. Brownie warned him a couple of times but he kept coming. What can you do? It's not an option to let these people chip away with impunity.
He was behaving like an arrogant little prick. His enployer has arranged an interview with a legend of UK music and he's proceeded to ask him stupid questions, interrupt him while he's speaking, insult him outright and question his profession. Who the fuck does he think he is? He's made a living for being slightly above average looking with a Welsh accent. "Woopdy fucken doooo!" As they say in Cymru. Plank needed to be taken down a few pegs at least!
Ian was actually spitting facts about the history of music, art, dance, martial arts and the connections. These are messages of inspiration and knowledge, which i would think music fans would want to hear but the mainstream media only want to know repetitive, easy and short statements that mean nothing to anyone listening. It goes hand in hand with the dumbing down of news and education to keep us locked out of facts and locked in to their point of view. Ian is not the only Mancunian that you will hear talking deep and intellectual and want every conversation to be an exchange in knowledge. In our age he is a singer and musician, in the ancient past he would be much more than that, i could easily imagine him as a spiritual leader and philosopher.
As soon as someone gets real and shows their authentic personality these gibbering media mannequins act as though they're dealing with a sociopathic lunatic, like the whole seamless automated vacuous media paradigm they inhabit and profit from is under attack from an alien force.
The initial problem is that Steve is clearly a little nervous to be around Ian. He's doing his best but he's a little self conscious and awkward. At this point, Ian is genuinely trying his best to be cool. The first sign of trouble is the fork lift truck moment. Steve is still trying to be polite at that point but it's all a bit odd and Ian picks up on it. It sounds a bit like Steve is really saying: "You can't make music with trucks so stop talking pretentious bollocks". I don't think Steve is trying to say that, but he might have been thinking something like it, and can't really disguise his reaction. Then things ramp up when Ian talks about wonder of all creation. Steve DEFINITELY thinks this is pretentious and he just responds with a sarcastic hmm. At that point, it's no longer just nervousness on Steve's behalf. Now, it's progressing into something else. Things get even more shitty when Steve starts talking about "rival bands". He does that for a reason, knowing that Ian doesn't see music that way and knowing Ian will take exception to it (which he does). He's provoking him at this point. This leads into the capoeira stuff, which is the point of no return. Part of the problem is cultural. Ian is a weed smoker from England who's into his rasta philosophy and pan-African culture in general. Steve is a lager drinker from Wales who's into rugby and pop music. In Wales, if you start talking that way Ian did, about capoeira or anything else, someone's going to take the piss out of you. Steve perceived Ian as pretentious and maybe even a little naive. Ian perceived Steve as cynical and too conventional in his attitudes. Plus, Ian has his own insecurities. On some level he knew that he was being a little silly and that Steve had exposed that part of his character. This might be where the resort to physical intimidation (threatening to attack Steve) came from. It might also have been that Ian was slightly intimidated by the bigger bloke. Ultimately, both men were to blame. But given a choice, I still prefer Ian's idealism to Steve's cynicism.
Steve had been told to push Ians buttons. Steve doesn't have the cahunas to carry it off. Boys pick up on his nervous energy and figure out the script. Steve blows it. Steves shit at his job.
Yeah I've met some Taffies that have a smarmy and snide vibe like Jones. Actually a tiny minority of them. Likewise u have some Mancs who love to badmouth others masquerading as "humour" but have a huge tantrum if u mirror them. Can't say any of em come over well. Brown comes over as a complete dxck. Shame cos he is really talented.
Well he's more than capable of doing it if he wished to, he was heavily into martial arts and trained everyday for 9years so yip i'd say he is more than capable of holding his own if need be.
"I did boxing after that for two years, because I thought karate doesn't teach you how to take a punch. After a couple of weeks I realised you have to enjoy taking a punch, and I didn't. So I just did the training instead of sparring because I kept getting hurt. I was 18 and these 14-year-old kids were knockin' me all over." Yeah, he sounds properly hard...
canna stand folk who do that, is giving him a doing beneath him, Black Belt or not does not guarantee a win in a square go, good fucking chance but by no means a racing certainty?!! #justsaying
Ian was supposed to perform live on channel 4 after this interview it was t in the park but he refused to let it be aired because of this interview i can remember been gutted
Yes, conferred. On past form, I'd have assumed Ian Brown was being unnecessarily confrontational, but as it turned out, the confrontation was thoroughly righteous.
Ps I Brown is difficult to interview!? Watch A brush with fame on u tube. Both guys are a joy to watch and Ians tolerance and misinterpreted control, punished by the jailer in the past will shed light on all TV bod is in this little nugget.
Steve Jones has a bizarre staccato style of speech. He seems to speak in short meaningless questioning sentences. A. bit. like. this. I'd hate to be stuck in an elevator with the muppet and. have. to. make. small. talk.
Giles Evans That's a trait of people that believe that every word they say is genius and aren't you privileged to be hearing it! Total egotistical prick.
Why did Ian Brown even bother to answer when Jones asked him to get on the table and give a demo? He should have just stepped onto the table and kicked him in the face. Simples. He asked for it (it's on tape.)
Reading the comments, I reckon no one picked up on why Ian Browne got feisty. Early in the interview he is ridiculed about his singing. Which proper pissed him off as it should. The interview moved on and he saw red.
The slagging off / trying to be clever bit is at 1.31 and basically just goes downhill from there. I'm amazed Clint lasted that long, let alone Mr Brown. Jones was just bloody disrespectful through most of it
Boon made a joke about his singing and Ian laughed because he doesn’t consider himself an amazing singer and they are good friends to he would know how to take it
Being a prat is never a good idea when you’re a low level TV presenter, especially when you interview legends. This bloke, whoever he is, is a total prat, can scarcely read his own questions and doesn’t listen to the people he’s talking to, the only shame is that Ian Brown didn’t knock him out ‘from there’.
It wasn't about what he said, it was how quick he was with the answer and completely took the wind out of Steve's sails and made him to end the interview. Quick wit will land the first and hardest blow!
I was in an elevator with Ian Brown, him and his crew let me and my friend off first. I shook his hand he was chill and polite. From the state of his self- absorbed, arrogant interview "technique" here I can't imagine Steve Jones has ever been so humble.
my friend was working painting on the scaffolding somewhere in London years back he spotted Ian passing by the shouted Hi Ian then he cheered him back smiling totally relaxed dude
This randomly came into my head, glad it still made me cringe in horror. Must be the editing because I find it hard to pinpoint the exact moment things go south
The moment after Boon says "I'm honoured to meet you" when the right reaction from the presenter would've been "Thanks" or something to that effect, but instead he goes angling for compliments and they realise he's a bit of vain pillock. That said, Ian Brown just behaves like a dick in this interview as well, let's be real
Presenter did NOT deserve Thug Brown's threat. Brown threatened a writer, his ex-wife, and an air hostess (he went to prison). He's threatening someone who'd "look better dead" in "I Am The Resurrection."
A lot of people taking Brown's side here but it seems excessive threatening this man.Perhaps they would also like to defend the fact that he did time for threatening a air hostess and was arrested for assault on his ex-wife.
@AZAM JAMIL who is he? same as you and everyone else on here giving an opinion. nothing more, nothing less. at least his opinion was given articulately and without aggression. you on the other hand...
@cuppateadee how exactly is Paul Smith stereotyping him for being working class? you are the one who brought class up. you're grammar is poor and your comment doesn't really make sense. are these working class traits?
The air hostess thing was jumped up nonsense, he said he'd cut her arm off if she waved dismissively at him again, do you really think he was going to do that? Really? She treated him like a piece of shit and got put in her place, airline law is pretty messed up at best.
A typical moment of good old rock n roll style drama! Ian Brown is very deadpan,laconic and pretty aggressive. It would be interesting for an interviewer to let him carry on in his own style without getting unnerved and trying to banter back and take control.
Can't believe anyone slagging brown for that. That welsh kid was asking the worst questions ever - proper clown - as for who is harder then all I can say is what a pathetic question. One think I will say is that Ian Brown 100% has had more rows, been in moodier situations and been in proper fights than that Welsh kid. But why waste an interview with brown asking stupid questions like that.
Haha, that one is golden. That point where you can see Mike's eyes glass over with seething rage. Interviewer probably sensed he'd gone too far at that moment and shat his daks.
Ian believed Steve was needling him, but asking him to demonstrate the Brazilian martial arts moves only had 1 response, and Ian said the right thing to get out of the interview.
Clint Boon Podcast Episode 12. What happened after the camera stopped rolling - there was no fight just awkwardness. So no great surprise there, but Clint Boon does tell a good story.
3:20 "Well I wanna end this right now" is when stuff starts getting really weird. I wonder if SJ is taunting him in a private joke type of way, re earlier conversations?
This is hilarious. Steve Jones is such a great comparison to the legendary Ian Brown. Quote from Steve's wiki page: "In 2016, Jones began presenting My Kitchen Rules: UK, a daytime cooking game show for Channel 4.............." Contrastingly, Ian Brown continues to inspire and challenge an entire generation of people, spiritually and politically over a span of 3 to 4 decades. Hmmm.... who would you like to spend 6 hours stuck in an elevator with? I only wish Ian had jumped on the table and round-house kicked him to the jaw. "Game over." "I'm going to run away and do a cooking show on Channel 4.........."
Calling Steve Jones a muppet is an insult to the likes of the Cookie Monster, Fozzie Bear etc.
To be fair, Cookie Monster is from Sesame Street. He is a puppet, not a Muppet. Fozzie is a Muppet. You're welcome.
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I’ve not worked personally with Ian Brown but he was working in the same studio complex as i was with a producer 5 years ago. He was the most genuine, decent, respectful, friendly dude to walk through the door. He was even bantering with my toddler son in reception about football. Absolute legend. Steve Jones has improved over the years but oh… what a cock he was.
Met him once after a gig he was playing with UNKLE.
Knew the Promoter so we'd kinda taken over his personal VIP area. It was meant for him to chill out in. But he was cool about it.
Anyway, Ian Brown, THE Ian Brown, starts strolling up the steps to his VIP & I'm standing at the top of the steps. And instead of saying "loved the gig" or "you were great" I was in such awe that I just blanked. Like absolutely NOTHING appeared in my mouth or head.
I just stood their staring at him like a mannequin, with my mouth open in a slack jawed kinda way, & my hand sticking out.
But fair enough, he just smiled, said thank you, & shook my hand. So obviously I wasn't the first person to go into complete brain meltdown when meeting him. If anything, his polite laugh made me think it happens more often than you'd think. Sadly I was in my mid thirties when this happened. So I didn't even have the excuse of being young & dumb. But I'd been a fan 20+ years so that's my excuse.
He didn't hang around long, but he made sure to say hello to everyone.
And no, I didn't attempt a second conversation. Couldn't take the embarrassment of another brain freeze.
It was all cool, and a great night.
James Lavelle from UNKLE is an absolute legend. Soundest guy ever.
We ended up out on a bender with the Promoter, Club Bookers, UNKLE, suppprt DJ, etc for 3 days straight afterwards. It was extremely messy but everyone held their own.
What I'd give to be young again.
@@pjnolan7989I understand I did security at Blur's recent concerts in Wembley, I've had a massive crush on Damon since I was a kid and there I was stood backstage with the band and their friends and families...I could barely get a hello out, he did smile at me a couple of times though.... I'm in my mid 30's too 😂😂
lol Ian brown went to prison for threatening to cut off the hands of a flight attendant. You don’t have to pretend he is a great guy just because the Stones roses have some great songs
@@Dangerman5
It's like praising Charles Manson just to show how big a fan of the Beach Boys you are.
@@Dangerman5 Yea, that was not good and justice was served… over 25 years ago.
As I originally stated. I’ve worked in studios in London my entire career and experienced all types. He was one of the decent ones.
Steve Jones speaks to people in a patronizing manor. Still does to this day
Manner xx
But a patronizing manor is a wonderful concept in itself ✨💜
I complained to Ch4 to get this condescending individual removed from ruining the F1 show several years ago but obviously fell on deaf ears. Anyone driver he interviews must have sore toes afterwards after asking relevant questions like "What are your favourite colour of socks?" God knows why David Coulthard puts up with his drivel.
@@yuccatree4298 sweetie it's patronising with an S, try and keep up darling
@@robertmilne4304 can you tell me where to complain about the state of the adverts on television
I didn't even know he was still around on TV.
What a bell-end Steve is. Ian’s was a good and interesting answer that deserved respect to let him explain to an audience that would have been interested and educated. That’s the problem you get when the interviewer thinks they’re more important than the artists.
To be fair ian just repeated exactly what he had already said
@@slees1847 That’s true. I think had the interviewer shown a bit of interest and respect, he wouldn’t have had to repeat and may have gone on to say more, which would have been interesting.
Ian Brown playing his most favourite role here that of a complete and utter wanker. He was very convincing.
Yeah, he does think he's the one, doesn't he ?..
He's Welsh,what other excuse does he need. He'd ask a question then jump in without Ian or Clint getting a word in.
ian brown is one of the most chilled blokes in the world, but don't interrupt him
justbeforedusk he’s a shithouse.
Think he dislikes drugs? Anti drugs? Unless decided to jump in. He was on point. Ask question cut me off! Yes. Oh do that dance for me! Jones prick. Ian brown is bit of privk having bouncer hold guy down while he knocks him about but Steve here is interviewer. Not star! If 2 normal people talking it would be ! Oi I was answering your ! question! Steve Jones. Oh it got worse. Mixer! Bitch really. Get off tv.
This interviewer was flippant and disrespectful
It wasn't merely interrupting. The middle class no talent idiot asked them if they were writing the same songs when they tried to write new ones. If he had the opinion that some of their songs were the same as new ones he should have asked them about what songs specifically. He then rushed them to answer because he had a question set up and he wanted it answered the way he wanted it answered, which is bad interviewing again. The question claimed they were rivals of other bands and asked them about fighting styles ffs. The posh interviewer was nervous around them and shouldn't have been interviewing them. He didn't even ask about the dance Brown brought up which was answering his stupid question.
To be fair, when given the chance to finish what he was saying, he just repeated what he had already said - he didn't have anything to add the first time around.
God I wish Ian had decked him on live tv 😂
the welsh dude was trying his best in fairness 🤣
Priceless!
First rule of interviewing let your guests answer your questions and show them respect.
Jones was put in his place here and rightly so.
Ian Brown notoriously difficult to interview and they get this bell to do it ffs.
Or maybe Ian Brown could be less 'difficult'
@@cockshield Agreed.
Ronnie McColl & TraininVain, both ‘pricks’.
@@sratus You're dumb
bell lol
I remember watching this at the time and didn't understand why Ian Brown was so aggressive. Watching it now, 15 years older and wiser, I understand what a bell end the host was being.
Threatening somebody with violence because you didn’t like the way he joked around with a question doesn’t make Ian brown a good guy
@@Dangerman5 Have you met him?
"That's it. Game over." Poor Steve Jones, he can't even end it without sounding like a knob head.
Impressed at Ian Brown's ability to talk without moving his mouth
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Same way he sings.
@@grantmcinnes1176 He speaks out of tune?
He has an hand up his arse.
He also walks without moving forward
It's Ian Brown, you don't take the piss you listen to every word that legend has to say.
That Welsh prick deserved evry ounce that Brown gave him. Dickhead
@Mark Richardson To be fair......
I think they're both assholes.
He's a mask-avoiding, "new world order" shouting, shit singing twat.
@@IanM1984 Who's more successful and innovative than you'll ever be!
@@yatesy117 So's Boris Johnson. Doesn't mean anything.
Steve Jones making Terry Christian look like a reasonable interviewer now that's an achievement.
Ian is a respectful person, show him respect and you will get it back, oh yeah he's also good at martial arts
Brown thinks he is good at martial arts but watch the Yt vid ' Ian Brown fight', he only starts really hitting someone after 5 others are pummeling a bouncer who's down already.
@@permaveg Agreed. I remember being so disappointed when I saw that bouncer clip with Brown taking cheap shots at someone on the floor. I'm not sure a martial arts expert would even do that.
At 5ft 9 he would need to be good at martial arts.
@@blackporscheroadster-yw8hbmakes zero sense kid mind he's not even 5ft9
I've heard he's a black belt, good for him, but if a blackbelt from our dojo threatened to knock someone out ,they'd have their belt taken off them ,whether this presenter was being a knob or not its not the martial arts ethos to threaten to knock them out .
Saw Ian Brown years ago supporting the Manics and he spent most of his set crouched down doing that hand thing 😂
I've still got awe for the creation
The problem for Steve Jones is that he is convinced he is the star. He is in fact a pretty boy who is always out of his depth.
pretty boy 😂
He's boring,
Steve Jones has got the F.E.A.R
Lol.
Yeah, I reckon he cacked his trollies. If you noticed in the video when the interview is over and it cuts to outside where he talks to some other posh bell-ends, he's wearing different jeans! The ones he interviewed Ian in are soaking in some bleach and warm water.
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Was proper dying to see Ian's capoeira moves I don't think I'll ever live this down...
HILARIOUS! The man had his number. Perfect. Flawless victory.
I want to see the bit after where he says it got "uglier". Ian brown is one of the most humble funniest people. If you watch him on a brush with the stars you'll see. Steve Jones was being dissmisive and passive aggressive in small ways, enough for someone with intelligence and morals to call him out.
Humble pffffft
I agree completely. Brownie warned him a couple of times but he kept coming. What can you do? It's not an option to let these people chip away with impunity.
He was behaving like an arrogant little prick. His enployer has arranged an interview with a legend of UK music and he's proceeded to ask him stupid questions, interrupt him while he's speaking, insult him outright and question his profession. Who the fuck does he think he is? He's made a living for being slightly above average looking with a Welsh accent. "Woopdy fucken doooo!" As they say in Cymru. Plank needed to be taken down a few pegs at least!
Humble? He totally threw his rattle out the pram just because he wasn't being worshipped and adored
@@jedaaa just said what most of us would say in front of a cocky prat
hahahaha "do you want me to knock you out from here or shall I come over there and do it?"
Liam Gallagher clearly learned how to conduct himself in interviews from watching Ian Brown. Both are
legends.
True 😂 Ian’s way fucking cooler though lol
Brown is a 🤡
Yep
Pair of tramps
@@lynchmaleideal He looks like an out of work trolley boy
Ian brown is a fucking legend
Jones is such a tool. Brown did well keeping super cool.
could be a line from Fools Gold
Steve Jones...a guy that loves himself a bit too much.
Ian was actually spitting facts about the history of music, art, dance, martial arts and the connections. These are messages of inspiration and knowledge, which i would think music fans would want to hear but the mainstream media only want to know repetitive, easy and short statements that mean nothing to anyone listening. It goes hand in hand with the dumbing down of news and education to keep us locked out of facts and locked in to their point of view. Ian is not the only Mancunian that you will hear talking deep and intellectual and want every conversation to be an exchange in knowledge. In our age he is a singer and musician, in the ancient past he would be much more than that, i could easily imagine him as a spiritual leader and philosopher.
Well said Sir
As soon as someone gets real and shows their authentic personality these gibbering media mannequins act as though they're dealing with a sociopathic lunatic, like the whole seamless automated vacuous media paradigm they inhabit and profit from is under attack from an alien force.
No lie
Never gets old this.
Steve Jones 🔔
I want to see the rest of the interview!
11 years on and Jones is still a lightweight on The One Show.
His career is going no where 😂
@@Paul-sl9zm how's yours going? Oh that's right, nobody even knows you exist 🤣
Yeah and Ian Brown is curled up in bed high on crack.
He's a boring twat
He's a never ending borefest 🥱🥱 🥱
The initial problem is that Steve is clearly a little nervous to be around Ian. He's doing his best but he's a little self conscious and awkward. At this point, Ian is genuinely trying his best to be cool.
The first sign of trouble is the fork lift truck moment. Steve is still trying to be polite at that point but it's all a bit odd and Ian picks up on it. It sounds a bit like Steve is really saying: "You can't make music with trucks so stop talking pretentious bollocks". I don't think Steve is trying to say that, but he might have been thinking something like it, and can't really disguise his reaction.
Then things ramp up when Ian talks about wonder of all creation. Steve DEFINITELY thinks this is pretentious and he just responds with a sarcastic hmm. At that point, it's no longer just nervousness on Steve's behalf. Now, it's progressing into something else.
Things get even more shitty when Steve starts talking about "rival bands". He does that for a reason, knowing that Ian doesn't see music that way and knowing Ian will take exception to it (which he does). He's provoking him at this point.
This leads into the capoeira stuff, which is the point of no return.
Part of the problem is cultural. Ian is a weed smoker from England who's into his rasta philosophy and pan-African culture in general. Steve is a lager drinker from Wales who's into rugby and pop music. In Wales, if you start talking that way Ian did, about capoeira or anything else, someone's going to take the piss out of you. Steve perceived Ian as pretentious and maybe even a little naive. Ian perceived Steve as cynical and too conventional in his attitudes.
Plus, Ian has his own insecurities. On some level he knew that he was being a little silly and that Steve had exposed that part of his character. This might be where the resort to physical intimidation (threatening to attack Steve) came from. It might also have been that Ian was slightly intimidated by the bigger bloke.
Ultimately, both men were to blame. But given a choice, I still prefer Ian's idealism to Steve's cynicism.
This is well thought out
Steve had been told to push Ians buttons. Steve doesn't have the cahunas to carry it off. Boys pick up on his nervous energy and figure out the script. Steve blows it. Steves shit at his job.
Yeah I've met some Taffies that have a smarmy and snide vibe like Jones.
Actually a tiny minority of them.
Likewise u have some Mancs who love to badmouth others masquerading as "humour" but have a huge tantrum if u mirror them.
Can't say any of em come over well.
Brown comes over as a complete dxck. Shame cos he is really talented.
Everything you've stated there is projection from you...
Analyse that.
Only man in the studio that does the talking, Browny is the king
just love browny.. do ya want knocking out from here... gotta love browny...
Well he's more than capable of doing it if he wished to, he was heavily into martial arts and trained everyday for 9years so yip i'd say he is more than capable of holding his own if need be.
"I did boxing after that for two years, because I thought karate doesn't teach you how to take a punch. After a couple of weeks I realised you have to enjoy taking a punch, and I didn't. So I just did the training instead of sparring because I kept getting hurt. I was 18 and these 14-year-old kids were knockin' me all over."
Yeah, he sounds properly hard...
canna stand folk who do that, is giving him a doing beneath him, Black Belt or not does not guarantee a win in a square go, good fucking chance but by no means a racing certainty?!! #justsaying
Steve Jones would kick his ass, he's about twice the size
@@1yearago491 it's not the size of the dog in the fight...
Ian was supposed to perform live on channel 4 after this interview it was t in the park but he refused to let it be aired because of this interview i can remember been gutted
Ian Brown couldn't knock out a wank.
I'm on Ian's side. Interviewer was a proper knobhead
You're Right, He's A Twat. But What does being Welsh Have to do with it? Are You racist?
Yes, conferred. On past form, I'd have assumed Ian Brown was being unnecessarily confrontational, but as it turned out, the confrontation was thoroughly righteous.
@@johnnyfartpants4801 nationalist
@@Backfromthestorm Are You calling me a nationalist for asking a perfectly legitimate question?
No I'm saying he isn't racist, Wales is a nation not a race. So if anything he's nationalist.
This is one of those videos I come back to once a year. This and Bobby Gillespie and Manny on bbc2 Glastonbury. “Dave lee Travis does Macbeth”😂
"I'm just off to stab some hippies to death."
Steve jones seems like a man with no manners or respect for others, it's good to see him put in his place.
"It got worse" Would've liked to have seen it. I reckon Jones cried.
Ps I Brown is difficult to interview!? Watch A brush with fame on u tube. Both guys are a joy to watch and Ians tolerance and misinterpreted control, punished by the jailer in the past will shed light on all TV bod is in this little nugget.
Too right! One of the loveliest pop interviews out there
Steve Jones has a bizarre staccato style of speech. He seems to speak in short meaningless questioning sentences. A. bit. like. this. I'd hate to be stuck in an elevator with the muppet and. have. to. make. small. talk.
but what....????? u see like arrrrrrr.....
Giles Evans That's a trait of people that believe that every word they say is genius and aren't you privileged to be hearing it! Total egotistical prick.
There's a term for that. He suffers from a rare disorder that affects 0.04% of the population. It's called welsh. It's annoying I know.
@@psychedelicballoon1831 hahaha
@@psychedelicballoon1831 a welsh guy once managed the stone roses
Clint Boom face priceless at the end lol
Classic TV moment. Gets funnier every time I watch it
Why did Ian Brown even bother to answer when Jones asked him to get on the table and give a demo? He should have just stepped onto the table and kicked him in the face. Simples. He asked for it (it's on tape.)
Your the one asking for a boot in the face you little gobshite thinking your funny
@@margaretledwidge6399, why such a weird & aggressive response?
I would love to see the b roll footage once they cut away
Margaret Ledwidge Calm down margaret tf??
@@margaretledwidge6399 Weren't you one of my last resorts after 2am?
And it started so well:)
Reading the comments, I reckon no one picked up on why Ian Browne got feisty. Early in the interview he is ridiculed about his singing. Which proper pissed him off as it should. The interview moved on and he saw red.
your bang on , I showed it to a mate after the comment and realized my mistake.
baconland Where's the bit where he slags of his singing? I don't know if it's the audio but there's bits I'm not quite catching
He doesn't slag off his singing at any point?
The slagging off / trying to be clever bit is at 1.31 and basically just goes downhill from there. I'm amazed Clint lasted that long, let alone Mr Brown. Jones was just bloody disrespectful through most of it
Boon made a joke about his singing and Ian laughed because he doesn’t consider himself an amazing singer and they are good friends to he would know how to take it
Being a prat is never a good idea when you’re a low level TV presenter, especially when you interview legends. This bloke, whoever he is, is a total prat, can scarcely read his own questions and doesn’t listen to the people he’s talking to, the only shame is that Ian Brown didn’t knock him out ‘from there’.
It wasn't about what he said, it was how quick he was with the answer and completely took the wind out of Steve's sails and made him to end the interview. Quick wit will land the first and hardest blow!
God the memories I used to watch T4 when I lived in my parents house 😭 lol
How can you add this video cutting the bit where Ian Brown chucks the table over and walks out? It is the highlight of television gold!
is that what happened? is it on You Tube?
Big difference between real lads pre1995 and media and magazine designer lads that came after.
I'm 63 and just love the Stone Roses, anyway, Ian Brown is ok!!! None of us are without faults
"Do you want knocking out from here, or do you want me to get up there and do it"
Either one works for me
I was in an elevator with Ian Brown, him and his crew let me and my friend off first. I shook his hand he was chill and polite. From the state of his self- absorbed, arrogant interview "technique" here I can't imagine Steve Jones has ever been so humble.
my friend was working painting on the scaffolding somewhere in London years back he spotted Ian passing by the shouted Hi Ian then he cheered him back smiling totally relaxed dude
This randomly came into my head, glad it still made me cringe in horror. Must be the editing because I find it hard to pinpoint the exact moment things go south
The moment after Boon says "I'm honoured to meet you" when the right reaction from the presenter would've been "Thanks" or something to that effect, but instead he goes angling for compliments and they realise he's a bit of vain pillock. That said, Ian Brown just behaves like a dick in this interview as well, let's be real
@@1yearago491
No he doesn’t. Jones is a complete twat, and disrespectful to boot.
Parts are missing...
Were northens we don't fuck about
Nice delivery Mr Brown, short sharp a and punchy,
Presenter did NOT deserve Thug Brown's threat. Brown threatened a writer, his ex-wife, and an air hostess (he went to prison).
He's threatening someone who'd "look better dead" in "I Am The Resurrection."
Ian is a completely real person.
To find out what happened after the cameras cut, listen to episode 12 of Clint Boon's podcast. You are welcome!
Red Pill Intelligence what happened
Ian brown..... Superb ✌️
Ian Brown is a top bloke.
What happened after? anyone know?
Was this before he went to los angeles and did his radio show?
There's a large part of it cut out...
A lot of people taking Brown's side here but it seems excessive threatening this man.Perhaps they would also like to defend the fact that he did time for threatening a air hostess and was arrested for assault on his ex-wife.
sorry what? who the fuck are you to pass comment on anything?
@AZAM JAMIL who is he? same as you and everyone else on here giving an opinion. nothing more, nothing less. at least his opinion was given articulately and without aggression. you on the other hand...
@cuppateadee how exactly is Paul Smith stereotyping him for being working class? you are the one who brought class up. you're grammar is poor and your comment doesn't really make sense. are these working class traits?
The air hostess thing was jumped up nonsense, he said he'd cut her arm off if she waved dismissively at him again, do you really think he was going to do that? Really? She treated him like a piece of shit and got put in her place, airline law is pretty messed up at best.
@HerrNilssonTheMonkey Ian Brown doesn't drink
what clip do you refer to!
look at the state of the 5 lads at the end in hysterics here funniest park of the video
what Ian is saying at the end to the sheep I couldn't understand
Nice one ian
Oh how the mediocre have fallen....Steve Jones is now Z List, presenting some cooking show on daytime TV. Ian Brown is still a legend.
How is Steve Jones still on TV?
I think some words were said before the camera was rolling here.
king monky thought he waz an air hostess
If you want to hear the music Mani and Clint Boon made at the Mill, listen to the latest "Storytime With Boon" podcast, episode 16.
You are welcome!
A typical moment of good old rock n roll style drama!
Ian Brown is very deadpan,laconic and pretty aggressive. It would be interesting for an interviewer to let him carry on in his own style without getting unnerved and trying to banter back and take control.
@Mintsauce27 hahaha very true.
I wonder if that Jones had been winding them up prior to the cameras rolling?
Can't believe anyone slagging brown for that. That welsh kid was asking the worst questions ever - proper clown - as for who is harder then all I can say is what a pathetic question. One think I will say is that Ian Brown 100% has had more rows, been in moodier situations and been in proper fights than that Welsh kid. But why waste an interview with brown asking stupid questions like that.
ToPayIsToFail the silly wanker didn't realise he was in the company of greatness.
I bet he didn't choose the questions.
in stitches
ian brown musical genius fact 100% geezer
Brilliant
Isn’t there a video where he actually knocks him out
ahahahaha "do you want knocking out from here, or do you want me to come over there and do it?"
That’s right up there with the video of mike Tyson saying fu to the interviewer On live canadian tv
Haha, that one is golden. That point where you can see Mike's eyes glass over with seething rage. Interviewer probably sensed he'd gone too far at that moment and shat his daks.
Good to see all three have pretty much disappeared
Ian believed Steve was needling him, but asking him to demonstrate the Brazilian martial arts moves only had 1 response, and Ian said the right thing to get out of the interview.
Clint Boon Podcast Episode 12. What happened after the camera stopped rolling - there was no fight just awkwardness. So no great surprise there, but Clint Boon does tell a good story.
Exactly what is an "alternative rock songwriter"? Please advise.
He was talking over Ian Brown. He should have respected him enough to let him finish and not mock him.
Go on Ian!
the bee gees and 10cc were huge in america! both from manchester!
Security in numbers now, is it? Class.
When Ian stood up I thought he might fart!!!!
I believe he said: do you want me to knock you out from here or you want me to get over there and do it?
Ian Brown looks like something that fell out of a HORSE
Real meets unreal...
Fkn love ya Broonie 👊
You just need to see Ian 👀 after the word rivalry... lmao he was doomed from then on
3:20 "Well I wanna end this right now" is when stuff starts getting really weird.
I wonder if SJ is taunting him in a private joke type of way, re earlier conversations?
He's asking him sarcastically if he's finished because Ian just pulled him up for interrupting him.
This is hilarious. Steve Jones is such a great comparison to the legendary Ian Brown. Quote from Steve's wiki page: "In 2016, Jones began presenting My Kitchen Rules: UK, a daytime cooking game show for Channel 4.............."
Contrastingly, Ian Brown continues to inspire and challenge an entire generation of people, spiritually and politically over a span of 3 to 4 decades.
Hmmm.... who would you like to spend 6 hours stuck in an elevator with?
I only wish Ian had jumped on the table and round-house kicked him to the jaw.
"Game over." "I'm going to run away and do a cooking show on Channel 4.........."
You write comments like a pretentious NME journalist
@@jamescricketson9464 Is there even a different type of NME journalist?