I honestly like the high elves more with the thalmor element than in prior games. It really turned them from a generic elf to a unique race like the other elves in tes
i liked their weakness to magicka racial because it implied to me that they are so magical that magic works better on them. almost like a magicka conduit or something, and its a two way street.
Something I don’t get: The High Elves have a weakness to Magicka, and the Direnni were high elves, and the Direnni proceeded to interbreed with the Bretons who got… Magicka Resistance. How the hell does that work out?
@@InquisitorThomas Something to do with the human heritage probably. Humans in Elder scrolls are supernatural as well and seem to gather resistances easily.
I remember seeing an excerpt from Skyrim about how the younger high elves are restless with the thalmor and the traditional views in general. I would love to see a game based on summerset and involves these feelings continuing into a revolution of some sort.
You could start the game as a prisoner because you and a small group tried to attack the thane of some village only to be raided by assassins of the Emporer because he heard one of the prisoners could be Dragonborn (when really it was a lie by one of the prisoners because together the prisoners acquired loot and since the sentence wasn't that long everyone would have to split it) however the assassins want to use you so they interrogate everyone (boom character creation). They want to see who is Dragonborn (because they stupid) so they let you dual with a member, if you win they let you go and tell you to join their League of Dominion. Then a dragon goes overhead and they tell you to go to the nearest city to warn them and boom quest line . If you somehow end up killing them (as their should only be like two members actually there or even just one) then a prisoner will thank you and boom another Dragon so they tell you to again go to the nearest city while they go to the city that the Dragon was going to. One dies and the other will be seen in a random inn with depression Damn I just plagiarized EOS 5 lmao
As much as it would be interesting, I feel keeping some traditional values in Summerset should remain. The Thalmor need to go but the traditional views aren't necessarily bad either.
I’ve been hoping and praying since Microsoft bought ZeniMax that they’d get some other studios to work on some spin off elder scrolls games that are less focused on letting the player make their own character and more having the player be an established character, like in Redguard. A spin off game where you have to play as a high elf leading a rebellion would be cool
Thalmor Officer : We must destroy the towers to ascend to the greatness of our ancestors! Altmer Commoner : My ancestors were fishermen. *gets disappeared stalin style*
@@masonwilliams6685 Nah mate, after what Tiber Septum did to them and what happened afterwards, I'd be pissed too. Not all of them agree with the Thalmor's methods either.
Not gonna lie, if they weren't so unwavering in every aspect and didn't have the Thalmor in power, they low-key would be the best race to be and live with.
@@Nurriek Yep, the Elves of Elder Scrolls are the perfect example of this (or at least most), but nonetheless, I love them, I support my Mer bois, even if most of the fanbase doesn't. All hail Queen Ayrenn, she'd be best to lead the Dominion, she actually cared about Tamriel and the other races.
@@thalmoragent9344 My problem is that the races I think are coolest are all nonplayable. I'd love to play as a Dwemer, or a Chimer. Or even a Falmer, as an Actual Snow Elf. That said, I think Barenziah had the right idea when she was Queen. She'd probably make for a sound overall ruler.
@@Nurriek Agreed. Snow Elves are my favorite race, I feel they were done very dirty. Not even confirmed they knew about the Eye of Magnus, the fanbase just assumed they knew it was there, even though at the end of the day, it was never moved. Atmorans may have done something terrible prior to the Night of Tears, but Ysgramor obviously wouldn't tell us, History is written by the victors, so we have to take a humans word over the race of now gone Mer. (Poor Gelebor, last confirmed Mer of his Race) I get they're not all innocent, but It's just that the Elves always pay the larger price in every instance as a race. I feel the Lore always makes the Elves seek to not only always be aggressors, but also somehow not able to keep a handle on things in these situations. Yokudans kill everything they see when they get to Hammerfell, no one cares. Nords kill Snow Elves for generations into Extinction despite not the entire province was in on the Night of Tears. Tiber Septum grabs the Numidium and annihilates the Summerset Isles despite at that time the Altmer were remaining out of the way of Tamriel on their islands... and yet the Thalmor are the A-holes for hating how they were forced to recognize him as a new Divine afterwards? Yeah the Thalmor are jerks even to other Altmer who don't agree with them, but still, many Altmer would rightfully hate Talos, I don't blame them Lore always places Mer in a negative light regardless of their culture, some even doing stuff that doesn't match up. Snow Elves being the least high and mighty of the Elves and chilling only to kill off a whole city for the Eye of Magnus, an artifact they did nothing to after the Sacking, seemingly just... leaving the place? (Only thing I could argue is there isn't much to go off of the Snow Elf/Atmoran situation, and the few that was recorded is all written by the Victor's, humans, so who's to say Nords weren't bullying their way into Skyrim with high tension that lead the Snow Elves to fear what they'd do with the Eye of Magnus?) The Elves seem always set up to fail, almost as if a bias against them is something many Harbor. Maybe making the Elves they way the devs did meant they'd always need to be on the loosing side otherwise they'd naturally win and make strong Empires. So its always "poor humans" even though when they commit atrocities no one bats an eye, and when they make Empires, suddenly it's justified and good. Why can't the Dwemer have made an Underground Empire and just chilled? Wouldn't that have been enough? Not make them go power crazy against the other races and use it as an excuse to kill them off?
@@haloplayeroflegend2515 Why those 4, specifically? Not trying to bash you or anything but, are they your personal favorite or do you think they're simply better in their culture? Cause remember, the Khajit and Bosmer have willingly joined the Dominion in the past, alongside their Altmer bois under Queen Ayrenn
@@Khoros-Mythos Lol, come on now Bro! 🤣 Although I must say, I'm no simp by any means, and even I gotta admit, Ayrenn is totally worth it. 😅 A lady like that has my respect
The Altmer are one of my favourite races and they're so underrated. They have awesome lore and a lot of nuance to them. I think some people kind of feel sour toward them because they are so different from Men (and Dunmer) in their outlook and the main TES games are from that more Lorkhanic perspective, but when you look at the lore from the Altmeri perspective and start putting yourself in their shoes, they become much more interesting imo. Excited to listen to this and see what you all think!
I've been a high elf for most of the years I've owned skyrim. Their natural born gift with magic, and race ability that gives you almost unlimited amounts of magic makes them feel like a whole power house. Their tallness makes them look dominant add on their gold skin and they just look divine lol.
Yeah the 2nd aldmeri dominion is so fucking cool but the summerset dlc kinda fucked them over a bit which is a shame but still they're massively underrated
They should do a vs series where one person chooses one thing, the other chooses another and the third person is the ref of the debate. They debate their sides
There can never be too much Altmer content. Best race for me by a mile. Too bad how ESO watered down their architecture to standard fantasy elven buildings instead towers of glass with many colors. It could been as unique as Morrowind.
Yeah the summerset dlc was a real disappointment at least the game bounced back but still the 2nd aldmeri dominion are so fucking cool it's a shame that the summerset dlc wasn't that good tbh it was probably easier to make a better dlc because they set themselves up with the base game
There were already two conflicting accounts of Altmer architecture in the lore, and what they went with is actually pretty spot-on accurate to the other one
@@BroadwayRonMexico What are the conflicting Lore pieces? If ESO is accurate to one of the Lore depictions, it's pretty easy to see ESO went for the simpler, less interesting Lore 😒
One of the main things high elves do well is they put teachers as the most important people of their society, only after them come princes, artists, merchants, soldiers and so on. Teaching and art are really highly valued. Also anyone who's good at anything is worthy in their eyes. If your job is to sweep the floors, if you become a master floor sweeper, everyone will see you with respect, even nobles.
i feel like there is a very low skill ceiling with sweeping unless you cross into entertainment/stunts territory (watch me twirl the pizza dough, dont worry how it tastes) but i also get what youre saying lol
Please do one on Aka and Lorkhan and their connections, and how both aren't really opposed to each other, like how Pelinal is possibly a time traveler but also is a Shezzarine, so he had to manipulate space and time which both Aka and Lorkhan represent.
@@GhostShadow1030 this is true to an extent as there were possibly other Shezzarine who weren't Dragonborn, like Zurin Arctus, but what I mean is also in the sense that if Lorkhan and Aka are opposites what does that mean, as Aka is time then Lorkhan has to be space, which means both together represent Space-Time, which means they possibly are not necessarily opposed to each other, as also some Dragonborn are Shezzarine like Hjalti(Tiber Septim) and Ysmir Wulfharth.
the altmer are my favorite tes race 💜 i've played as one in every tes game!! they get a lot of shit bc of the thalmor even though they don't represent the race as a whole, so it's nice to see my faves getting the love they deserve!!
I just love you guys. You’ve really introduced and given me my first fan base to be a part of - which was important during 2020. I started watching around Covid time and began playing Skyrim for the first time because of your influence.
Other than my first ever Morrowind character (a Nord) I always play as a high elf my first playthrough and is usually my main. They have great lore and are op to play as.
With art being the second most important thing next to education to the Altmer you can see how this relates to them being obsessed with being descendants of the Aedra, they value at the inherent level, creation, despite not wanting to be mortal of body and being. and they go to the greatest lengths to demonstrate how capable they are of creating wonders and beautious things, and yet feel that it isn't near enough to the level of flawlessnes they would wish it to have. their greatest weakness is they can never be truly fullfilled with anything for long. their greatest strength from it however is that they will keep reaching for greater heights past anything the other mortal races would achieve, if they can manage to put their work before their ego.
It would be funny if the Altmer find out that they somehow can't reach apotheosis, because they're cursed like the Dunmer. I really like High Elves; they're probably my favorite elven race with the Dunmer being a very close second. I hope that they show many more High Elves who disagree with the Thalmor/Aldmeri Dominion in TES: VI so that more people stop hating them and to add some more nuance to their background. I'd also like to be able to fight the Thalmor as a High Elf and for it to canonically make more sense too.
It already would make sense canonically though. The Night of Green Flames was a massacre of dissident anti-Thalmor Altmer refugees in Hammerfell by Thalmor spies. A lot of Altmer would have lost loved ones in that attack. The Thalmor also view Altmer born outside Alinor as inferior
@@BroadwayRonMexico Yup: - Legate Fasendil in Skyrim (Riften Imperial Camp) who's an Altmer. - Aldarch Tilcalar in ESO saying to you (if you're playing with an Altmer) that the Queen's decree has "attracted some of our wayward brethren" to their shores, and that you're still as much a foreigner as "those lizards and cats" despite your race. Although I think it would be interesting to see what the Thalmor regime would look like. If it's a totalitarian regime, mind you that most would be passive, neither overtly supporting nor resisting the regime. It's what happens generally in totalitarian states.
Can you make a Fallout 4 build as a Cult Leader? Use Kremvh's Tooth (A unique sacrificial machete,) agility for high stealth, and high charisma for building settlements to amass a following of devout followers? I imagine the lore would go something like this "You were once the cult leader at the Dunwich Borers before the war, but when everything went to hell you planted your sacrificial blade and froze yourself, your wife, and your child in Vault 111, expecting to rebuild the commonwealth under the banner of your cult, post war. When you escape the vault, you build a new life, by setting out to retrieve your old blade, and amassing your first followers."
Honestly i think an empire under the Bosmer would be pretty nice, even though they wouldn't want to expand beyond the Valenwood. But they have a very relaxed view of life, they care about the enviornment, and if you neighbor pisses you off you can just eat them.
Maybe the British Empire when they still valued their North German roots (which is a bit weird considering their ruling class is Norse-French but w/e).
I think that's a good comparison but I also a bit ancient china can be attributed to the High Elves with them inventing many things that are found in Tamriel like most schools of magic, much like China inventing fireworks or gunpowder in ancient times.
Awe man if only I could be a part of the podcast. You guys have educated so many fans including myself to finally understanding the world of Nirn, and now I’m more into Skyrim’s roleplaying then ever before!
I actually thought the High Elven architecture in Summerset for ESO made sense considering their armor, motifs, and stuff...I mean sure there's like one or two references to insect like, crystalline this and that, but for the most part, I think it makes sense...I actually think if you look just a bit more into the architecture, it's not just Disney or Shrek or whatever, it's actually a bit more interesting than that even...you'll see big columns dotted around Aldmeri ruins on Summerset and in Alinor or Shimerene themselves you'll see the kind of slight mishmash of aesthetics where you have these high columns mixed with the very tall ornately windowed towers...I think that was the real goal of the art team was to show how Altmer architecture is sorta like that Japanese idea where a cracked pot isn't papered over to hide the gash but instead it's cherished. And of course, because they are sorta the oldest culture with written history that we know of I think and have these architectural traditions...they were trying to convey the mixture of old and new meshing together into this contradiction of being incredibly well made, incredible powerful, and incredibly dignified architecture yet also very old and at places, crumbling altogether. Maybe they could have had more of the insectoid, crystalline stuff, but I think if you look at the windows that line the towers and structures in Alinor, for example, they actually do look like little bug wings melted together into a window, it's small, but relevant I think that maybe shows the devs tried to tie in all the lore they could while emphasizing other elements of Altmer culture
100% agree. This might be unpopular opinion but personally I'm so happy they didn't make Summerset too alien looking, we already have Vvardenfell for that weird elven aesthetic. And I have to admit I'm a sucker for the art nouveau, romanesque Tolkien artstyle, I think it's so pretty and suits the high elves perfectly.
I get certain vibes off each of these 3 voices, and could see them playing certain roles: Scott as a teacher, a lecturer, maybe professor. Drew's voice has a calming effect, and makes me think of guided meditation videos and, coincidently, these videos also attract a certain spiritual niche crowd, so Drew would fit in as a philosopher. Michael has a young-looking face with a voice to fit and to me seems reminiscent of a student, not to discredit anyone in any particular way as a teacher is useless without the student. just my thoughts, have a good night :)
I always saw the high elves weakness to magic as an indicator that their bodies were highly absorbant to magic energies making them regenerate magic faster but also making it easier for hostile magic to affect them.
I love the idea of a talos worshiping Altmer that believes he was a breton and views Talos as the combination of mer and man reobtaining their ancestral divinity.
@@ciaranmck4469 They did! They were (sort of) diplomats and much more engaged in fostering racial diversity. Here's a link to some of the eso members: elderscrolls.fandom.com/wiki/Thalmor_(Online)
I love your content. I always listen to it on spotify but sometimes I like to watch the video. I was wondering if you could do one about wood elves and their relationship with Hircine. I've always loved the Bosmer and the god of the hunt.
I randomly asked my GF this question for a year before she finally screamed at me one day "WHO THE FUCK ARE THE HIGH ELVES AND WHY WOULD I HAVE HEARD OF THEM"
Maybe a game set there could begin with a shipwreck/sea elf attack leading to you and the ship's crew being stranded in the Somerset isles. Maybe one of the noble houses rescues you, but demands repayment through work, or maybe seeks to use your character as a pawn. This would at least give a reason for members of other races to be there.
I actually love how they ended up designing Summerset in ESO and I'm happy they didn't go with the more alien "glass and insect wings" style. The art nouveau Tolkien inspiration is gorgeous. I like that people who want to play a more different or alien type of elf can make a dunmer or bosmer. Some may call the altmer generic but a lot of people really love the more "traditional" elves and I like that there is something for everyone in the game.
High Elves/Altmer really are the best race biologically, but I’d also argue socially and technologically-magically. I started with Bretons but Altmer became my favourite thanks to their lore and impact in the story.
I don't mind the way they created Summerset in ESO. It's actually quite brilliant. Oftentimes, in real life, records of a bygone era or of foreign lands were written to seem mythical or alien, so it makes sense that outsiders who came to the Isles for the first time, were shocked by the massive spires, stained glass windows and white marbled buildings, towering over any creature and would recount their impressions more than the factual reality, using a very poetic language. Conceptually, gothic architecture was a way to "elevate man towards God", and was a massive step up from the dark, traditional and unadorned Romanic style of the early Middle Ages. Gothic by comparison was richly decorated, as tall and spacious as they could make it, had that religious significance of reaching towards God and was full of light.
Great discussion guys, I admit I was really looking forward to seeing ESO's Summerset Expansion do Alinor better justice too. Though I'm still glad we at least got to visit there in some capacity. I agree Hammerfell could be especially cool for TES6 in continuing the Thalmor plot and maybe seeing something similar to the Skyrim civil war there too between the Thalmor and the Redguards. It would be pretty interesting to see Bethesda better flesh out the Thalmor and The Dominion instead of just trying to hammer at players that they're not your friend, like in Skyrim.
They made every move they possibly could make to hurt themselves. Their own saving grace is politically destabilizing the last 2 standing armies that could wipe them out.
Altmer are my favorite TES race, but man oh man did the Thalmor tank their reputation. Always good to see them getting some love.
Seems it's the only thing most casuals know about them.
I honestly like the high elves more with the thalmor element than in prior games. It really turned them from a generic elf to a unique race like the other elves in tes
that's what makes them cool. They have an evil extremist sect within their government that periodically takes power. That's just realistic.
I love role playing as the Altmer the most when I do play throughout idk why
Ah, Hallows Elf, glad to see you here.
i liked their weakness to magicka racial because it implied to me that they are so magical that magic works better on them. almost like a magicka conduit or something, and its a two way street.
Something I don’t get: The High Elves have a weakness to Magicka, and the Direnni were high elves, and the Direnni proceeded to interbreed with the Bretons who got… Magicka Resistance. How the hell does that work out?
@@InquisitorThomas Something to do with the human heritage probably. Humans in Elder scrolls are supernatural as well and seem to gather resistances easily.
@@InquisitorThomas magic evolution is as wild as dawn magic or mysticism.
They are not weak to magica they are just weak to elements at least in skyrim i dont know the oblivion race stats by hard anymore😂
I was gonna be an elf, but then I got high.
Damn space elves
Skooma
I was gonna read that scroll too.. then i got high...
A man of culture!
Khajiit gang
the opening music just gets me all excited for the podcast
I remember that music hyping me for builds
Every time
Jeremy Soule
That song is like the nerd version of the monday night football jingle
The eating etiquette of not refilling your own glass as well as not resting your utensils on your dish is also real world Japanese etiquette.
I remember seeing an excerpt from Skyrim about how the younger high elves are restless with the thalmor and the traditional views in general. I would love to see a game based on summerset and involves these feelings continuing into a revolution of some sort.
Ikr, I would love it 😃
You could start the game as a prisoner because you and a small group tried to attack the thane of some village only to be raided by assassins of the Emporer because he heard one of the prisoners could be Dragonborn (when really it was a lie by one of the prisoners because together the prisoners acquired loot and since the sentence wasn't that long everyone would have to split it) however the assassins want to use you so they interrogate everyone (boom character creation). They want to see who is Dragonborn (because they stupid) so they let you dual with a member, if you win they let you go and tell you to join their League of Dominion. Then a dragon goes overhead and they tell you to go to the nearest city to warn them and boom quest line . If you somehow end up killing them (as their should only be like two members actually there or even just one) then a prisoner will thank you and boom another Dragon so they tell you to again go to the nearest city while they go to the city that the Dragon was going to. One dies and the other will be seen in a random inn with depression
Damn I just plagiarized EOS 5 lmao
I know what your on about I believe it was written for the merethic era when the altmer were starting to worship a select amount of their ancestors
As much as it would be interesting, I feel keeping some traditional values in Summerset should remain. The Thalmor need to go but the traditional views aren't necessarily bad either.
I’ve been hoping and praying since Microsoft bought ZeniMax that they’d get some other studios to work on some spin off elder scrolls games that are less focused on letting the player make their own character and more having the player be an established character, like in Redguard. A spin off game where you have to play as a high elf leading a rebellion would be cool
Have you heard of the High Elves?
*bites apple*
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AAARG
*dies*
Damn it, you beat me to it!
I understood that reference
Body's still warm..
There's a killer about.
Great Ref also love the Berserk profile pic
Must of been the wind
Thalmor Officer : We must destroy the towers to ascend to the greatness of our ancestors!
Altmer Commoner : My ancestors were fishermen. *gets disappeared stalin style*
The Fish God lol
Excuse you, that's fishermer.
@@MoonMoverGaming Excuse me, excuse you, but what about "Netchimen"?
Checkmate, Altmer.
@@oujimandias6485 what about the droid attack on the wookies?
@@60sspider-man29 confidential :p
Everyone asks that question, but nobody bothers to actually check up on them.
Lmaoo exactly
@Louie Evan no one gives a damn about your data phishing scam
cause the high elves are dicks that’s why
@@masonwilliams6685
Nah mate, after what Tiber Septum did to them and what happened afterwards, I'd be pissed too. Not all of them agree with the Thalmor's methods either.
I'd love too, I'd appreciate Summerset as a Mer, I care for all races descended from the Aldmer and Old Ehlnofey. Auriel > Akatosh 😎
"We only want what is best for Tamriel. Surely, the rebels will accept peace when they realize this."
Not gonna lie, if they weren't so unwavering in every aspect and didn't have the Thalmor in power, they low-key would be the best race to be and live with.
The road to hell is paved with the best of intentions.
@@Nurriek
Yep, the Elves of Elder Scrolls are the perfect example of this (or at least most), but nonetheless, I love them, I support my Mer bois, even if most of the fanbase doesn't.
All hail Queen Ayrenn, she'd be best to lead the Dominion, she actually cared about Tamriel and the other races.
@@thalmoragent9344
My problem is that the races I think are coolest are all nonplayable. I'd love to play as a Dwemer, or a Chimer. Or even a Falmer, as an Actual Snow Elf. That said, I think Barenziah had the right idea when she was Queen. She'd probably make for a sound overall ruler.
@@Nurriek
Agreed. Snow Elves are my favorite race, I feel they were done very dirty. Not even confirmed they knew about the Eye of Magnus, the fanbase just assumed they knew it was there, even though at the end of the day, it was never moved. Atmorans may have done something terrible prior to the Night of Tears, but Ysgramor obviously wouldn't tell us, History is written by the victors, so we have to take a humans word over the race of now gone Mer. (Poor Gelebor, last confirmed Mer of his Race)
I get they're not all innocent, but It's just that the Elves always pay the larger price in every instance as a race. I feel the Lore always makes the Elves seek to not only always be aggressors, but also somehow not able to keep a handle on things in these situations.
Yokudans kill everything they see when they get to Hammerfell, no one cares. Nords kill Snow Elves for generations into Extinction despite not the entire province was in on the Night of Tears. Tiber Septum grabs the Numidium and annihilates the Summerset Isles despite at that time the Altmer were remaining out of the way of Tamriel on their islands... and yet the Thalmor are the A-holes for hating how they were forced to recognize him as a new Divine afterwards?
Yeah the Thalmor are jerks even to other Altmer who don't agree with them, but still, many Altmer would rightfully hate Talos, I don't blame them
Lore always places Mer in a negative light regardless of their culture, some even doing stuff that doesn't match up. Snow Elves being the least high and mighty of the Elves and chilling only to kill off a whole city for the Eye of Magnus, an artifact they did nothing to after the Sacking, seemingly just... leaving the place?
(Only thing I could argue is there isn't much to go off of the Snow Elf/Atmoran situation, and the few that was recorded is all written by the Victor's, humans, so who's to say Nords weren't bullying their way into Skyrim with high tension that lead the Snow Elves to fear what they'd do with the Eye of Magnus?)
The Elves seem always set up to fail, almost as if a bias against them is something many Harbor. Maybe making the Elves they way the devs did meant they'd always need to be on the loosing side otherwise they'd naturally win and make strong Empires.
So its always "poor humans" even though when they commit atrocities no one bats an eye, and when they make Empires, suddenly it's justified and good. Why can't the Dwemer have made an Underground Empire and just chilled? Wouldn't that have been enough? Not make them go power crazy against the other races and use it as an excuse to kill them off?
The altmer are my favorite! I was so excited when I saw you guys did a video on them. Greatest way to start my day!
Fudgemuppet crew: "We're pro racial diversity"
The Thalmor: "That's cute, face the wall"
based
This made me laugh way more than it should've XD
Yes.
As somewhat of a thalmor agent myself id argue that we are all for race diversity. How else are we gonne play them against one another
Bringing progress, enlightenment and peace to Tamriel is our greatest vocation.
True, no lies detected
Orcs, argonians, khajit, and wood elfs are better.
@@haloplayeroflegend2515
Why those 4, specifically? Not trying to bash you or anything but, are they your personal favorite or do you think they're simply better in their culture?
Cause remember, the Khajit and Bosmer have willingly joined the Dominion in the past, alongside their Altmer bois under Queen Ayrenn
send me Ayrenn's feet pics pls
@@Khoros-Mythos
Lol, come on now Bro! 🤣
Although I must say, I'm no simp by any means, and even I gotta admit, Ayrenn is totally worth it. 😅 A lady like that has my respect
The Altmer are one of my favourite races and they're so underrated. They have awesome lore and a lot of nuance to them. I think some people kind of feel sour toward them because they are so different from Men (and Dunmer) in their outlook and the main TES games are from that more Lorkhanic perspective, but when you look at the lore from the Altmeri perspective and start putting yourself in their shoes, they become much more interesting imo. Excited to listen to this and see what you all think!
I've been a high elf for most of the years I've owned skyrim. Their natural born gift with magic, and race ability that gives you almost unlimited amounts of magic makes them feel like a whole power house. Their tallness makes them look dominant add on their gold skin and they just look divine lol.
Unlimited magic for 60 secs*
Yeah the 2nd aldmeri dominion is so fucking cool but the summerset dlc kinda fucked them over a bit which is a shame but still they're massively underrated
@@nicholashernandez9804 In vanilla Skyrim, they're definitely a top tier playable race in terms of gameplay advantage, alongside Bretons and Orcs.
They say syndicates of wizards have led a boycott of Imperial goods, in the land of the Altmer.
I've heard others say the same.
@@brandonvistan7444 I saw some Mudcrabs by the waterfront today, filthy creatures.
@@Gwennerini Can't stand the things. I try to avoid them when I can.
@@brandonvistan7444 Take care
@@Gwennerini So long.
"Have you heard of the High Elves?"
No, do they have curved swords? C u r v e d? S w o r d s?
Those Altmer think they're so high and mighty until you leave them in a pool of their own blood! -Owyn Blademastsr of the Arena
Can be said for any race but ok
@@sephiroaone-of-nine101 isn't that a quote from oblivion? ha ha high elves do think they are superior more than any other kind even dunmer
@@redguardjediwarhammer498 could be but I don't know
Send em to the Gods quicker!
*Pelinal Whitestrake Loved That*
I've heard of the High elves, there always smoking weed, and generally chilling,maaan
Exactly my thoughts
Does this one guard the others?
Tamriel would be a much nicer place if this were true lol
@@MathisSheathes this one agrees.
@@kharjo8099 I Wonder if moon sugar is equivalent to weed (I mean in elves.) I am aware that the effects are softer in khajiit
Ngl Drew’s voice is soothing AF. Falling asleep to this podcast nightly makes going to bed something to look forward to.
I bet the Skyrim-only players are all really confused by the strange pointed sticks that those guys in the middle are holding.
Not only Skyrim, Oblivion also had a sad lack of spears. When Skywind releases my first character will wield a spear (I never played Morrowind)
They're holding them wrong, better send them to the rieklings to learn how to use them.
Isn't Morrowind the only game with polearms?
Bwahahahaha!!
But TES didn’t invent spears…
They should do a vs series where one person chooses one thing, the other chooses another and the third person is the ref of the debate. They debate their sides
That would be really cool!
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That’s literally Scott and Michael every podcast lmao, drew being more of a mediator instead of a ref though lol
There can never be too much Altmer content. Best race for me by a mile. Too bad how ESO watered down their architecture to standard fantasy elven buildings instead towers of glass with many colors. It could been as unique as Morrowind.
Yeah the summerset dlc was a real disappointment at least the game bounced back but still the 2nd aldmeri dominion are so fucking cool it's a shame that the summerset dlc wasn't that good tbh it was probably easier to make a better dlc because they set themselves up with the base game
@@ciaranmck4469 the story was pretty good by yes I wish wr could have seen architecture like the psyjic order tower on main island.
ESO doesn't count.
There were already two conflicting accounts of Altmer architecture in the lore, and what they went with is actually pretty spot-on accurate to the other one
@@BroadwayRonMexico
What are the conflicting Lore pieces? If ESO is accurate to one of the Lore depictions, it's pretty easy to see ESO went for the simpler, less interesting Lore 😒
One of the main things high elves do well is they put teachers as the most important people of their society, only after them come princes, artists, merchants, soldiers and so on. Teaching and art are really highly valued. Also anyone who's good at anything is worthy in their eyes. If your job is to sweep the floors, if you become a master floor sweeper, everyone will see you with respect, even nobles.
i feel like there is a very low skill ceiling with sweeping unless you cross into entertainment/stunts territory (watch me twirl the pizza dough, dont worry how it tastes) but i also get what youre saying lol
I have been eagerly awaiting the Altmer episode! My favorite TES race.
Why
@@Gwennerini they're cool, that's why
Love The High Elves hate The Thalmor
2nd favorite race 1st being Argonians
Thalmor being altmer gestapo really got me fascinated in skyrim
28:25 it was the Thalmor who basically tipped-off the Argonians that now would be a good time to collect recompense from the Dunmer.
Please do one on Aka and Lorkhan and their connections, and how both aren't really opposed to each other, like how Pelinal is possibly a time traveler but also is a Shezzarine, so he had to manipulate space and time which both Aka and Lorkhan represent.
Two sides of a coin, two ends of the Aurbillical cord.
I mean apparently the greatest of Lorkhan’s champions have been dragonborn
@@GhostShadow1030 this is true to an extent as there were possibly other Shezzarine who weren't Dragonborn, like Zurin Arctus, but what I mean is also in the sense that if Lorkhan and Aka are opposites what does that mean, as Aka is time then Lorkhan has to be space, which means both together represent Space-Time, which means they possibly are not necessarily opposed to each other, as also some Dragonborn are Shezzarine like Hjalti(Tiber Septim) and Ysmir Wulfharth.
Good thing I have this podcast to look forward to.
Everything’s gonna be ok. 💙 better days are ahead
These are so great boyz, glad you decided to make these podcasts
the altmer are my favorite tes race 💜 i've played as one in every tes game!! they get a lot of shit bc of the thalmor even though they don't represent the race as a whole, so it's nice to see my faves getting the love they deserve!!
I just binged the entire podcast thus far.
Was very glad to see this pop up.
YESSSSSS IM HERE FOR ALTMER CONTENT!!! THEY NEVER GET ANY LOVE
do you think what happened to Kvatch could happen here?
I've heard others say the same.
good news from Kvatch for a change
I've heard the last of the Daedra have been driven out.
I don't know you and I don't care to know you!
I just love you guys. You’ve really introduced and given me my first fan base to be a part of - which was important during 2020. I started watching around Covid time and began playing Skyrim for the first time because of your influence.
They are my favourite playable race. Zenimax did a good job developping them in Elder Scrolls online Summerset
Yes I have heard of the high elves but have you been to the cloud district
Of course I haven't, what were you thinking?
I know I need to stop because I violated the law but someone stole my sweetroll.
Other than my first ever Morrowind character (a Nord) I always play as a high elf my first playthrough and is usually my main. They have great lore and are op to play as.
With art being the second most important thing next to education to the Altmer you can see how this relates to them being obsessed with being descendants of the Aedra, they value at the inherent level, creation, despite not wanting to be mortal of body and being. and they go to the greatest lengths to demonstrate how capable they are of creating wonders and beautious things, and yet feel that it isn't near enough to the level of flawlessnes they would wish it to have. their greatest weakness is they can never be truly fullfilled with anything for long. their greatest strength from it however is that they will keep reaching for greater heights past anything the other mortal races would achieve, if they can manage to put their work before their ego.
I definitely need a dawn era, pelinal and dagoth ur podcasts
From Alinor to Shimmerene! And every point between!
I love how neither drew or Michael reacted to Scott’s phone. Nor his hilarious reaction😂😂😂 I love the elder scrolls podcast keep it up guys
I lied drew smiled but didn’t make a big deal out of it but it was just too funny to me XD
Omg Yes please do a cast on the psijic order!!!!!!!
It would be funny if the Altmer find out that they somehow can't reach apotheosis, because they're cursed like the Dunmer.
I really like High Elves; they're probably my favorite elven race with the Dunmer being a very close second.
I hope that they show many more High Elves who disagree with the Thalmor/Aldmeri Dominion in TES: VI so that more people stop hating them and to add some more nuance to their background. I'd also like to be able to fight the Thalmor as a High Elf and for it to canonically make more sense too.
lmao that would be hilarious
It already would make sense canonically though. The Night of Green Flames was a massacre of dissident anti-Thalmor Altmer refugees in Hammerfell by Thalmor spies. A lot of Altmer would have lost loved ones in that attack. The Thalmor also view Altmer born outside Alinor as inferior
@@BroadwayRonMexico Yup:
- Legate Fasendil in Skyrim (Riften Imperial Camp) who's an Altmer.
- Aldarch Tilcalar in ESO saying to you (if you're playing with an Altmer) that the Queen's decree has "attracted some of our wayward brethren" to their shores, and that you're still as much a foreigner as "those lizards and cats" despite your race.
Although I think it would be interesting to see what the Thalmor regime would look like. If it's a totalitarian regime, mind you that most would be passive, neither overtly supporting nor resisting the regime. It's what happens generally in totalitarian states.
My mains are always altmer. I liked the eso quest where they were making bosmer renounce the green pact and indoctrinating khajit . Good shit 🤣
Can you make a Fallout 4 build as a Cult Leader? Use Kremvh's Tooth (A unique sacrificial machete,) agility for high stealth, and high charisma for building settlements to amass a following of devout followers?
I imagine the lore would go something like this "You were once the cult leader at the Dunwich Borers before the war, but when everything went to hell you planted your sacrificial blade and froze yourself, your wife, and your child in Vault 111, expecting to rebuild the commonwealth under the banner of your cult, post war. When you escape the vault, you build a new life, by setting out to retrieve your old blade, and amassing your first followers."
Dude, those Elves are totally high! Look at the red eyes!
Honestly i think an empire under the Bosmer would be pretty nice, even though they wouldn't want to expand beyond the Valenwood. But they have a very relaxed view of life, they care about the enviornment, and if you neighbor pisses you off you can just eat them.
I remember my buddy suggesting the inspiration behind the high elves was a mix between Imperial Japan and the British Empire.
What do you guys think?
Maybe the British Empire when they still valued their North German roots (which is a bit weird considering their ruling class is Norse-French but w/e).
I think that's a good comparison but I also a bit ancient china can be attributed to the High Elves with them inventing many things that are found in Tamriel like most schools of magic, much like China inventing fireworks or gunpowder in ancient times.
fascist Italy and nazi Germany with a mix of England and Japan for sure
@@on_6933 what??? You know nothing if that's what your comparing
@@user_____M They're also very German. The current house of windsor was a German house before it was renamed.
Awe man if only I could be a part of the podcast. You guys have educated so many fans including myself to finally understanding the world of Nirn, and now I’m more into Skyrim’s roleplaying then ever before!
This would have made a great 4/20 podcast
Perfect! Now I've something to listen to while I'm cleaning Lol
Me too! Janitor. Love listening to these through my night shift.
@@Jamesfrf Oh have a nice day at work !
Drew’s voice is so relaxing... Glad I stumbled onto this
You guys did a very good job on the intro! It is amazing and makes me want to play all of the elder scrolls!!!
I actually thought the High Elven architecture in Summerset for ESO made sense considering their armor, motifs, and stuff...I mean sure there's like one or two references to insect like, crystalline this and that, but for the most part, I think it makes sense...I actually think if you look just a bit more into the architecture, it's not just Disney or Shrek or whatever, it's actually a bit more interesting than that even...you'll see big columns dotted around Aldmeri ruins on Summerset and in Alinor or Shimerene themselves you'll see the kind of slight mishmash of aesthetics where you have these high columns mixed with the very tall ornately windowed towers...I think that was the real goal of the art team was to show how Altmer architecture is sorta like that Japanese idea where a cracked pot isn't papered over to hide the gash but instead it's cherished. And of course, because they are sorta the oldest culture with written history that we know of I think and have these architectural traditions...they were trying to convey the mixture of old and new meshing together into this contradiction of being incredibly well made, incredible powerful, and incredibly dignified architecture yet also very old and at places, crumbling altogether. Maybe they could have had more of the insectoid, crystalline stuff, but I think if you look at the windows that line the towers and structures in Alinor, for example, they actually do look like little bug wings melted together into a window, it's small, but relevant I think that maybe shows the devs tried to tie in all the lore they could while emphasizing other elements of Altmer culture
100% agree. This might be unpopular opinion but personally I'm so happy they didn't make Summerset too alien looking, we already have Vvardenfell for that weird elven aesthetic. And I have to admit I'm a sucker for the art nouveau, romanesque Tolkien artstyle, I think it's so pretty and suits the high elves perfectly.
I get certain vibes off each of these 3 voices, and could see them playing certain roles: Scott as a teacher, a lecturer, maybe professor. Drew's voice has a calming effect, and makes me think of guided meditation videos and, coincidently, these videos also attract a certain spiritual niche crowd, so Drew would fit in as a philosopher. Michael has a young-looking face with a voice to fit and to me seems reminiscent of a student, not to discredit anyone in any particular way as a teacher is useless without the student. just my thoughts, have a good night :)
I always saw the high elves weakness to magic as an indicator that their bodies were highly absorbant to magic energies making them regenerate magic faster but also making it easier for hostile magic to affect them.
I wish eso implemented goblin more in summerset. That could have been a really cool dynamic
Finally talking about the pinnacle race of Tamriel.
Im just gonna fill up the comment section with quotes from Oblivion
Body’s still warm, there’s a killer about...
By the gods, someone's been murdered.
Halt, you've violated the law! Pay the fine or pay with your blood.
Its all over lawbreaker! Your spree is at an end.
@@theo4014 THEN PAY WITH YOUR BLOOD
I love the idea of a talos worshiping Altmer that believes he was a breton and views Talos as the combination of mer and man reobtaining their ancestral divinity.
I love that you all laughed at the do do thing. You guys are truly my people
I think that ESO Thalmor would view 4E Skyrim Thalmor as a disgrace
Eso didn't have thalmor but I understand what you mean
@@ciaranmck4469 They did! They were (sort of) diplomats and much more engaged in fostering racial diversity. Here's a link to some of the eso members: elderscrolls.fandom.com/wiki/Thalmor_(Online)
The DooDoo laugh made me realize I am not the only one with this humor.
Great work again Daedric gods of knowledge and awesomeness. Killing at as always and loving the content per usual.
High Elves ! 420 2nd era represent!
I love your content. I always listen to it on spotify but sometimes I like to watch the video. I was wondering if you could do one about wood elves and their relationship with Hircine. I've always loved the Bosmer and the god of the hunt.
The Altmer are such a cool race and it's a shame many casuals assume they all support the Thalmor.
Whenever I see a pack of Thalmor, I fling Chain Lightning their way 😁
I once shouted the Thalmor Ambassador off High Hrothgar.
Respec
I usually snipe one with a bow then charge in butt naked swinging duel axes and shouting them apart.
I've been reading a good book on high elf culture and the Thalmor, it's called: 'The rise and fall of the Third Reich'
Yeah, because "tHeY'rE aLl ThE sAMe !"
_Haugh!_
_Braugh!_
*HMMPFF!*
SKYRIM IS FOR THE NORDS!
*Ragdolls*
Scott's Hair gets more and more ESO like the more these podcasts come out
I randomly asked my GF this question for a year before she finally screamed at me one day "WHO THE FUCK ARE THE HIGH ELVES AND WHY WOULD I HAVE HEARD OF THEM"
Maybe the first altmer humans have encountered were high, hence calling them `High` Elves
Maybe a game set there could begin with a shipwreck/sea elf attack leading to you and the ship's crew being stranded in the Somerset isles. Maybe one of the noble houses rescues you, but demands repayment through work, or maybe seeks to use your character as a pawn. This would at least give a reason for members of other races to be there.
"Talos? Never heard of him."
"Have you heard of the High Elves?" is such a weird question. That's like asking someone, "Hey, have you heard of the Asian peoples?"
“Have you heard of the Vietnamese? This stuff is crazy.”
Not a crazy question in a world w/out the internet
@@jjs8426 The Altmer are absolutely everywhere in Cyrodiil. You don't need the internet to see people who are right in front of you.
I actually love how they ended up designing Summerset in ESO and I'm happy they didn't go with the more alien "glass and insect wings" style. The art nouveau Tolkien inspiration is gorgeous. I like that people who want to play a more different or alien type of elf can make a dunmer or bosmer. Some may call the altmer generic but a lot of people really love the more "traditional" elves and I like that there is something for everyone in the game.
By AzUrA bY aZuRa It'S tHe GrAnD cHaMpIoN!
Standing HERE, next to me.
@@brandonvistan7444 beat it kid, I don't need a fan
Can I shine your boots?
@@playmorefreakingskyrim9403 Oh, really? Gee. I guess I'll be waiting here then.
@@brandonvistan7444 hey what I ever do to you
28:24 Michael might be onto something there. Do people think the Argonians would take the Thalmor’s future plans lightly?
High Elves/Altmer really are the best race biologically, but I’d also argue socially and technologically-magically. I started with Bretons but Altmer became my favourite thanks to their lore and impact in the story.
I love this, keep going guys!
Heard of them? I just drank 7 bottles of Skooma good sir, I am a high elf, high asf.
Reads title...
Apple: poisons menacingly
In ESO they recently gave extra vulnerability to light armor users. Listening to the history of magicka vulnerability, it makes more sense now!
The one where the gang advocates for fantastical eugenics
Really enjoy all your vids. Using some of this information to create a Pathfinder table top.
Yay, more Fudgemuppet love!
❤️💜💙
Pass the bleezy young money
The Elder Scrolls is a cake layered with diversity and stuffed with racism
You guys should do a podcast episode on Bretons
I don't mind the way they created Summerset in ESO. It's actually quite brilliant. Oftentimes, in real life, records of a bygone era or of foreign lands were written to seem mythical or alien, so it makes sense that outsiders who came to the Isles for the first time, were shocked by the massive spires, stained glass windows and white marbled buildings, towering over any creature and would recount their impressions more than the factual reality, using a very poetic language. Conceptually, gothic architecture was a way to "elevate man towards God", and was a massive step up from the dark, traditional and unadorned Romanic style of the early Middle Ages. Gothic by comparison was richly decorated, as tall and spacious as they could make it, had that religious significance of reaching towards God and was full of light.
Great discussion guys, I admit I was really looking forward to seeing ESO's Summerset Expansion do Alinor better justice too. Though I'm still glad we at least got to visit there in some capacity. I agree Hammerfell could be especially cool for TES6 in continuing the Thalmor plot and maybe seeing something similar to the Skyrim civil war there too between the Thalmor and the Redguards. It would be pretty interesting to see Bethesda better flesh out the Thalmor and The Dominion instead of just trying to hammer at players that they're not your friend, like in Skyrim.
Great perspectives on the high elves thanks for the discussion
They’re their own worst enemy
They made every move they possibly could make to hurt themselves. Their own saving grace is politically destabilizing the last 2 standing armies that could wipe them out.
Whaaat? We get a podcast now, SWEET!
Lolz @ "...they do, do..." We ALL do, though, dont we? 😏
Woof, interesting dip into eugenics boys
Have you seen Armand Christophe?
don't worry, we'll get him
@@armashuvitz I've fought mudcrabs fiercer than you
Y'all should talk about Peryite next week