I've brought up this truth before. However, I would consider Drew to be the Sotha Sil. He has the niche daedra knowledge and is now doing his own thing.
I like the idea of Pre-Direnni alchemy. Just out in the wild eating mushrooms to figure out what they do. "Hmmm, this one tastes like goat. This one killed Rendil instantly. And this one makes you see the gods for a week."
@@PyrusFlameborn I can’t imagine being a Native American trying psylocibin mushrooms for the first time😂. I know Norse culture heavily revolves around them too. I just can’t imagine being the first one, and trying to explain it to your fellow tribesman.
When they talked about the bretons being mistaken for elves I imagine at that time there is still a difference between the peasant nede and noble breton. The ESO has convinced me that the Reachmen are like the original nedes of the high rock displaced by the bretons and nords.
I imagine the Bretons at the time more as an urbanized bourgeosie (in the original meaning of the word) rather than true nobility (reserved for pure Mer) but using their ties and blood from the nobilitiy to gain more status and wealth than Nede peasants.
It's strange how nobody has mentioned the similarity between the Direnni Hegemony's racial class system and that of the Spanish Empire's. In the Spanish empire, those who were native were in a lower class than those born in Spain, and the mestizo population varied in level of class according to how close you were to being homeland Spanish.
@@tylermech66 I'm not sure with the earlier eras but in the late 19th century (post Suez canal), some were allowed to go there. Many revolutionary figures of my country were Mestizos and Indios who were educated in Europe.
Also I should say that the reasons Bretons arguably don't break the whole "you take your mothers race" thing is because it also says you take SOME traits from the father. So, after centuries of interbreeding (and assumedly, some Direnni women getting pregnant by Needs, eventually the you would effectively have a new race because of how many elven traits they'd have in their males.
With regards to Nedic presence in Tamriel pre-Direnni & Ayleids, I always felt it fit better for Nedes to be there first. It works better with more of the lore. The wandering ehlnofey wandered about Atmora, Yokuda, (Akavir...?) and Tamriel before they rediscovered their lost kin, the old ehlnofey, either in Summerset or in Aldmeris. They weren't welcomed, then the dawn war started. At the end of it all, races of men spread back out over Tamriel, Yokuda, Atmora (Akavir...?) As the Merethic Era went on, elves started to voyage outwards and colonize areas with an already established human presence
@@just_addd_water_to_your_ramen Yeah, the Old Ehlnofey had their lands invaded and then Aldmeris shattered, so technically, the Nedes were still around on all the Continents and the Mer had to reclaim their lands and stuff
Same. Except i thought they were saying "Herc Mercula", like the name was a play off of Hercules for being strong and Dracula becuase was also a leader known for ethnic cleansing.
Regarding the take on Serana and her lineage. Perhaps I misunderstood the statement about whether gameplay differed from the lore. But, her family could have voyaged over from Atmora and traveled to the other side of Skyrim. The ancient capital Windhelm influence would not have stretched over to where Castle Volikhar would eventually be built. Plus, it would have been way before Al-Esh Paravant and her rebellion. Giving Harkon his time to rule that section of Skyrim, not affiliated with Windhelm, prior to any empire. The way I always understood it in any rate.
@@prosperstarling3513 maybe focusing on collecting all the books, or artefacts in dungeons etc Sounds like a pretty fun idea though, I might try it some time
@@K_Kobe Mid to late 30s. Still young enough to take the physical punishment of exploring ruins, etc in search of rare books and scrolls, travelling across Skyrim. Old enough to be cautious dealing with merchants and travellers.
@@prosperstarling3513I'm using Take Notes to keep track of what she finds where, and when. It's definitely a roleplay. Imagination will provide connections that don't actually exist. I'll be drawing on my experiences playing Morrowind and Oblivion for 'stories and tales' from old adventurers or their descendents. Likely, she'll concentrate on one thing at a time, Dwemer ruins, Nordic ruins, the Dragon Cult, things like that. She may decide to write a history of alchemy. (Which just occurred to me. Hmmm.) Events in the game will guide her. Being attacked by Daedra worshippers would lead her to study that, for example.
Unpopular opinion but the Bretons actually are my fave race. Their so under-rated and deserve so much more attention than what they get. I guess what drew me to them so much is that their basically the underdogs of the ES universe
@Snoken849 In terms of the attention they get and wide their lore is, I wouldn't say so. My comment was more pointed towards how little attention and lore the Bretons have bc they always been a race that was treated as just kind of there, to the point that some ppl don't even think they should exist. In terms of the actual world though, I'd still think the Orcs aren't necessarily the underdogs bc I think even the Bosmer have a harder time than they do.
Just started playing 🎮 with Bretons my favorite race now 😆 still I like My Nords and argonians and sometimes wood elf, but Bretons are actually good warriors and magical properties.
What if in ES6, the Boats are the equivalent of Silt Striders in Morrowind or the Wagons in Skyrim and they're just used as a means of Fast Traveling to major locations you haven't found yet?
That sounds really cool, although there is the issue of how that would work with inland cities. Maybe there could be boats and wagons or whatever at the same time?
@@lordro256 Skyrim already has a fast travel system using boats. You can travel between Dawnstar, Windhelm and Solitude (also you can ask the boatman to take you to the coast near castle Volkihar) using boats, or you can take a wagon to wherever you need to go
For Bloodmoon you had that for the boat to Solstheim. It's good as part of a mixed system. Morrowind had Silt Striders, Mages guild teleporters and the boat to Solstheim. Skyrim is just, as usual, less depth.
@@Lucky13Ravens Skyrim has wagons, the boat to Solstheim, the smaller boats you can hire to travel along the northern coast, the rowboat to Castle Volkihar, and actual Fast Travel that you can use whenever you're not indoors(which is weird when you think about it). While I can agree that Skyrim is lacking in more than a few aspects, I wouldn't exactly say that this is one of them.
Nedes being more daedric involved makes sense when you think about how Auriel and Lorkhan are the souls of Anuiel and Sithis respectively, and those souls of Anu and Padomai respectively. The Elder Scrolls metaphysics is very dialectical, with an interplay of oppositions, and the man/mer conflict is sort of like the "soul" of the Auriel/Lorkhan conflict. If man is allied with Lorkhan, then them also moreso being aligned with daedra also makes sense. Granted, an important wrinkle or objection to that could be that the daedra/aedra distinction gets complicated and plenty of aedra seem to have roots going quite a ways back with cultures like the Nords. At the same time, another wrinkle to that could be that maybe the Nedes were just way more diverse than we give credit for. Like IRL, there might be all this complex culture and society that has been largely forgotten due to stuff like slavery and colonialism, perhaps not relying on text or the sort of infrastructure that is easy to find. Which is just to say, maybe there were extremely distinct cultures worshipping a variety of things, but then the modern cultural binary of man/mer was formed by Elven supremacist societies reshaping history. When myth makes reality colonialism could even take on metaphysical dimensions, redefining history could get quite literal.
Without their Magic resistance, they are one of the weakest races. Nords are Strong big warriors, while the Imperials have competent battlemages, soldiers and nightblades etc.
@@thomasrosendahl2783 and the Bretons destroyed orsinium without using their resist magic ability as much as their martial ability because the orca aren’t exactly known for fighting with magic.
Snow Elves, remnant of the Aldmer who didn't remain stranded on the shatered landmass that later becomes Summerset, probably similar to how the Nedes and Atmorians got separated. Tamriel befoe the Elnofey wars is a sort of Pangea IRL
Snow Elves were Aldmer in Altmora, the Elderwood. Skyrim was the last bastion of Altmora till the Nords came back and essentially finished what their ancestors started.... Sucks for the Snow Elves, they and their ancestors have been defending Skyrim from Nords since damn near the Dawn Times
The Illiac Bay region has Nedic, Altmer/Direnni, Dwemer, Yokudan, and various other lost cultural ruins...would be quite the delving being done if that's the case.
It's somewhat confirmed that immigration from Atmora to Tamriel came in many "waves" so it's possible Nedes are just the Atmorans that came early to Tamriel (way before Ysgrammor), with their populations spreading more widely towards northern and central Tamriel, while the Nords come from a second mass immigration of Atmorans.
I hope next elder Scrolls includes high rock and a part of hammerfell, it could be interesting with the frontier having an important role in the game could add a sense discovery and thrill. For example with contraband or raiding parties.
I don't play ESO but honestly if the plot of High Isle isn't super daedric stuff it'll be a pretty nice breath of fresh air, it feels like every big ESO plot has revolved around the princes in one way or another
In TES 6 you should be able to choose to help the Thalmor. The Direnni should be able to be convinced to choose between the allied forces of Hammerfell and High Rock or the Thalmor, and play a key role in victory
the story of the direnni and the breaton is very similar to that of latin america and particularly Mexico, the spaniards "breeding" with the natives creating modern Latinos
I think it was based on that. Elder scrolls takes a lot inspiration from real history. Cyrodillic Empire-Roman Empire, Nords-Vikings, So your theory has merits.
Hope we learn who the druids of galen are in the high isle chapter since they've been ignored since arena and they talked about expanding on the druidism aspect of bretons.
Just wanted to say, I usually listen to the podcast at work on Spotify, but everytime I can listen to it on YT I do, hoping it gives a better revenue/view
So just curious, is there going to be a podcast for the other 2 living gods? I watched a sotha sil video and looked for the others and was like, oh snap it's future content?
Imperial Orrery shows the solar system of mundus. All of the planets in the system are named after the elves ancestors My hypothesis is that the Mer came from other planets in the system (Aldmer) this could explain why all of the elves are so different considering they have extremely long lifespans. and the time it would take for them to evolve separately, would be significant. Altmer, falmer, dwemer, seaelfs, left hand elf. If each race of elf came from a different planet in the system it would make more sense for them to settle a different area on Nirn. Then to come from some distant continent spread out to each area on tamriel and then evolve separately in such a short amount of time.
It appears that the elven society starts out with advanced technology and slowly degrades over time. All of the ancient Nords ruins also seem to have stolen Mer technology, particularly dwemer. Including their doors, traps, secret passageways and enchanting. Once the nords got rid of the snow elves they had a golden age and from then on their society started to degrade into the fourth era where technology is less advanced. And magic is shunned.
So the comments Serana make about the Dwemer could mean that she was alive before they dissapeared and went to sleep long after the red mountain incident and maybe never knew they had dissapeared which would work with the 2nd era statement by devs
The Battle of Glenumbra Moors is a great example of what is called a pyrrhic victory. A victory so costly it is a loss in the long term. The term comes from the Greek King Pyrrhus of Epirus who won the Battle of Asculum against the Romans in 279 BC but lost so many men that he was forced to surrender when the Romans send reinforcements later.
I really wish they had made bretons just a bit more elven than imperial looking. Like maybe they have human sized ears but they have just a bit of a point
Do you think the Breton fixation with questing and rising above your station are a left over relic from being able to be more than just a common Nede serf by being born a Breton?
I desperately want TES6 to be Hammerfell and High Rock where the conclusion will be about the Direnni and the aperture stone. The bit about joining the Thalmor should work. There could be a Justicar that you can side with and do some quests to snuff out Blades in Hammerfell or something like that while for the main story we still have the big bad High Justicar to deal with (Still imagining my theory of the big bad Thalmor mantling the former Trinimac after doing some crazy ritual to split Malacath in two).
When I saw the trailer for the new LOTR series, I thought it was a new trailer for High Isle, and was very confused for a moment since I was signed into Netflix.
I imagine the Direnni intermarriaed with all the Mer refugees they granted asylum to from the Ayleids and Pre Sundering Falmer aka the snow elves before they were blinded.
@@LandStrider23 Well not really the sundered Falmer's minds seem to clearing up as time goes on and some folk in Cyrodill probably have some Ayleid blood in them.
Thank you guys! ❤️❤️❤️ I was up early, & looking forward to my weekly dose of Elder Scrolls lore discussion. Are any of you familiar with authors Terry Goodkind, or L.E. Modesitt? They both have fun fantasy series.
Bretons in my opinion are the most powerful race, apart from Argonians heh. They are the Half Mer and Half Men, get the benefits from both races, they remind me of Tolkien's Half-men/elf or the Numenorians.
A suggestion for a future podcast (though I doubt you need it). What happens to each race/culture in the future? For example: The Redguards, with their hatred of magic and knowledge of sword singing, inherent the “tonal technology“ of the Dwemer etc.
Lukewarm take. TES6 should have the main enemy be the sload. With them as the enemy you would have either a boss fight, or an enemy you can battle throughout the game depending on how they balance it. I would assume it would go something along the lines of War unending followed by trying to kill the last of the dragons, maybe a medium threat larger than dragons like maybe vermina tries to conquer nirn, but it's kinda easy to thwart, and then hard-core thrass is invading
Can't remember where I heard this, but I believe the Direnni harbor refugees running from the Thalmor. Nothing is certain, but it looks like whatever the Thalmor are up to, the Direnni don't seem to like it
You cited the text where the Direnni claim to have taken over Markarth in 1E 477. Got me thinking; Wasn't Markarth still the Dwemer city of Nchuand-Zel back then? I think it is a similar kind of inconsistensy with the Direnni claim of being the first to sack Orsinium. Elinhir would have been a Nedic rather than Redguard city.
To my knowledge, thats due to Bethesda heavily changing the lore on Markarth and Skyrim in general. In older lore, the Dwemer apparently had no presence in Skyrim whatsoever, Markarth was just another Nord village with some Direnni influence from what I can tell. ESO follows TES:V's retconned version of Skyrim, so that's why Markarth was a Dwemer ruin instead of an ancient Nordic-style city built into the mountainside, mixed with some Direnni ruins in the surrounding area's. Not saying which style is better, just clarifying what happened and why it is Dwemer in the 4th & 2nd Era's.
It would be very cool to see maybe in elder scrolls online or elder scrolls 6 that the brenton family lines come back as in elves come back into the bloodline
Well considering some of the Breton royals have elvish ears in lore, if TESVI gives that option you can roleplay that. Or, since they're making "backstories" for Starfield, I could see that being implemented in some form for TESVI character creation. So long as it isn't too constricting. Then again, they could just give you the option to forgo a backstory altogether, and start the game with just your racial bonuses.
I can't bring myself to agree with the comments about being happy with anything they give us for a game. We have waited so long that whatever they give us needs to meet at least some expectations, or they will suffer CDPR styles of backlash
Direnni Elves breeding themselves out of the population is a consequence of their own success. The Direnni were true visionary creating a distinctive race all by themselves.
I enjoy these podcasts, but I don't like how some are one big Scott monologue. Does he ever engage with anything anyone else says? He makes point upon point and when Drew or Michael put something forward he side steps it and continues with some other point.
thank the tribunal for this podcast.
and by the tribunal i of course mean Drewvec, Michaelexia and Scotta Sil
I've brought up this truth before. However, I would consider Drew to be the Sotha Sil. He has the niche daedra knowledge and is now doing his own thing.
I like the idea of Pre-Direnni alchemy. Just out in the wild eating mushrooms to figure out what they do. "Hmmm, this one tastes like goat. This one killed Rendil instantly. And this one makes you see the gods for a week."
Isn't this basically what happened irl? Just replace "alchemy" with "medicine"
@@PyrusFlameborn and food in general 😆
Isn't this what you do in skyrim?
@@PyrusFlameborn I can’t imagine being a Native American trying psylocibin mushrooms for the first time😂. I know Norse culture heavily revolves around them too. I just can’t imagine being the first one, and trying to explain it to your fellow tribesman.
@@DasnotCool same goes for milk, who tf had to do that to discover milk.
The Direnni just went around "pioneering" young nedic men and women...
When they talked about the bretons being mistaken for elves I imagine at that time there is still a difference between the peasant nede and noble breton.
The ESO has convinced me that the Reachmen are like the original nedes of the high rock displaced by the bretons and nords.
I imagine the Bretons at the time more as an urbanized bourgeosie (in the original meaning of the word) rather than true nobility (reserved for pure Mer) but using their ties and blood from the nobilitiy to gain more status and wealth than Nede peasants.
@@PyrusFlameborn yeah, like knights to their elven lords and kings
If the setting if TES6 ends up being the Illiac bay I'd love for it to have an archipelago like area in the waters, like Skellige from the Witcher 3
I don't think there is an archipelago in the illiac bay 🤔
@@just_addd_water_to_your_ramen They randomly added an archipelago for the next chapter of ESO, so why not?
Or like the sheogorad region in morrowind
Put the word Breton in it and I’m clicking! Good timing gentleman and thanks for being here.
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It's strange how nobody has mentioned the similarity between the Direnni Hegemony's racial class system and that of the Spanish Empire's.
In the Spanish empire, those who were native were in a lower class than those born in Spain, and the mestizo population varied in level of class according to how close you were to being homeland Spanish.
@Prey R I don't think any mestizo would be allowed into the homeland, but I am not basing this on any solid info.
Glad someone said it.
Well, there are so many real world inspiration in TES but they prefer take everything as its own fictional universe.
@@zynosgd9982 Or they just don't know history, which is surprisingly common.
@@tylermech66 I'm not sure with the earlier eras but in the late 19th century (post Suez canal), some were allowed to go there. Many revolutionary figures of my country were Mestizos and Indios who were educated in Europe.
Age of Empires- Tamriel edition. Also the Direnni seem very anti-Thalmor with their background of structure and order.
It would be interesting to see anti-Thalmor factions of High Elves outside of the Psijic Order.
I'd like to see psijics become a faction or the main quest protagonist.
Yeah, they'd be OK with say, the first or second Dominion's, but this 3rd one will need some change if they want High Rock to join them any time soon
Also I should say that the reasons Bretons arguably don't break the whole "you take your mothers race" thing is because it also says you take SOME traits from the father. So, after centuries of interbreeding (and assumedly, some Direnni women getting pregnant by Needs, eventually the you would effectively have a new race because of how many elven traits they'd have in their males.
Great explanation!
It’s always a good day when Fudge Muppet drops a new podcast. Highlight of Sunday/Monday!
With regards to Nedic presence in Tamriel pre-Direnni & Ayleids, I always felt it fit better for Nedes to be there first. It works better with more of the lore. The wandering ehlnofey wandered about Atmora, Yokuda, (Akavir...?) and Tamriel before they rediscovered their lost kin, the old ehlnofey, either in Summerset or in Aldmeris. They weren't welcomed, then the dawn war started. At the end of it all, races of men spread back out over Tamriel, Yokuda, Atmora (Akavir...?) As the Merethic Era went on, elves started to voyage outwards and colonize areas with an already established human presence
What about the theory that tamriel is aldmeris but shattered
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Yeah, the Old Ehlnofey had their lands invaded and then Aldmeris shattered, so technically, the Nedes were still around on all the Continents and the Mer had to reclaim their lands and stuff
Every time they say “Mer-Killer” it sounds like “Merculer” I was confused for so long
Same thing right?
Same. Except i thought they were saying "Herc Mercula", like the name was a play off of Hercules for being strong and Dracula becuase was also a leader known for ethnic cleansing.
Hahaha it’s cuz aussies prounounce kill like “keel” so merkiller becomes merkeeler and said fast sounds like murculer
I thought it was Hoagmurcula for so long
Came for the lore, stayed for the laughs!
Regarding the take on Serana and her lineage. Perhaps I misunderstood the statement about whether gameplay differed from the lore. But, her family could have voyaged over from Atmora and traveled to the other side of Skyrim. The ancient capital Windhelm influence would not have stretched over to where Castle Volikhar would eventually be built. Plus, it would have been way before Al-Esh Paravant and her rebellion. Giving Harkon his time to rule that section of Skyrim, not affiliated with Windhelm, prior to any empire. The way I always understood it in any rate.
Just started a playthough with a Breton historian. This is great.
How can you be a historian? Interesting concept 🤔
@@prosperstarling3513 maybe focusing on collecting all the books, or artefacts in dungeons etc
Sounds like a pretty fun idea though, I might try it some time
That’s interesting, is it an old or young character? Something about me likes playing old characters
@@K_Kobe Mid to late 30s. Still young enough to take the physical punishment of exploring ruins, etc in search of rare books and scrolls, travelling across Skyrim. Old enough to be cautious dealing with merchants and travellers.
@@prosperstarling3513I'm using Take Notes to keep track of what she finds where, and when. It's definitely a roleplay. Imagination will provide connections that don't actually exist. I'll be drawing on my experiences playing Morrowind and Oblivion for 'stories and tales' from old adventurers or their descendents. Likely, she'll concentrate on one thing at a time, Dwemer ruins, Nordic ruins, the Dragon Cult, things like that. She may decide to write a history of alchemy. (Which just occurred to me. Hmmm.) Events in the game will guide her. Being attacked by Daedra worshippers would lead her to study that, for example.
Unpopular opinion but the Bretons actually are my fave race. Their so under-rated and deserve so much more attention than what they get. I guess what drew me to them so much is that their basically the underdogs of the ES universe
I know I'm replying to a one year old comment but I just had to say, wouldn't the orcs be the underdogs of TES if anyone
@Snoken849 In terms of the attention they get and wide their lore is, I wouldn't say so. My comment was more pointed towards how little attention and lore the Bretons have bc they always been a race that was treated as just kind of there, to the point that some ppl don't even think they should exist. In terms of the actual world though, I'd still think the Orcs aren't necessarily the underdogs bc I think even the Bosmer have a harder time than they do.
@@Voltage256 fair enough
Love they covered the Direnni clan. One of my favorite topics in TES period. I always have my high elf character from their clan to roleplay.
I agree with Scott, deserts do look cool
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Just started playing 🎮 with Bretons my favorite race now 😆 still I like My Nords and argonians and sometimes wood elf, but Bretons are actually good warriors and magical properties.
Great dive in the lore of the Bretons. Thank you all for the fun video.
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What if in ES6, the Boats are the equivalent of Silt Striders in Morrowind or the Wagons in Skyrim and they're just used as a means of Fast Traveling to major locations you haven't found yet?
That sounds really cool, although there is the issue of how that would work with inland cities. Maybe there could be boats and wagons or whatever at the same time?
@@lordro256 Skyrim already has a fast travel system using boats. You can travel between Dawnstar, Windhelm and Solitude (also you can ask the boatman to take you to the coast near castle Volkihar) using boats, or you can take a wagon to wherever you need to go
For Bloodmoon you had that for the boat to Solstheim.
It's good as part of a mixed system. Morrowind had Silt Striders, Mages guild teleporters and the boat to Solstheim. Skyrim is just, as usual, less depth.
@@Lucky13Ravens Skyrim has wagons, the boat to Solstheim, the smaller boats you can hire to travel along the northern coast, the rowboat to Castle Volkihar, and actual Fast Travel that you can use whenever you're not indoors(which is weird when you think about it).
While I can agree that Skyrim is lacking in more than a few aspects, I wouldn't exactly say that this is one of them.
@@Im-Not-a-Dog I specifically said less depth.
Horse drawn wagon Vs Silt strider
As with all of Skyrim, it's just ancient Norway.
Nedes being more daedric involved makes sense when you think about how Auriel and Lorkhan are the souls of Anuiel and Sithis respectively, and those souls of Anu and Padomai respectively. The Elder Scrolls metaphysics is very dialectical, with an interplay of oppositions, and the man/mer conflict is sort of like the "soul" of the Auriel/Lorkhan conflict. If man is allied with Lorkhan, then them also moreso being aligned with daedra also makes sense.
Granted, an important wrinkle or objection to that could be that the daedra/aedra distinction gets complicated and plenty of aedra seem to have roots going quite a ways back with cultures like the Nords. At the same time, another wrinkle to that could be that maybe the Nedes were just way more diverse than we give credit for. Like IRL, there might be all this complex culture and society that has been largely forgotten due to stuff like slavery and colonialism, perhaps not relying on text or the sort of infrastructure that is easy to find. Which is just to say, maybe there were extremely distinct cultures worshipping a variety of things, but then the modern cultural binary of man/mer was formed by Elven supremacist societies reshaping history. When myth makes reality colonialism could even take on metaphysical dimensions, redefining history could get quite literal.
The Bretons are, in fact, my favorite Elder Scrolls race.
Without their Magic resistance, they are one of the weakest races. Nords are Strong big warriors, while the Imperials have competent battlemages, soldiers and nightblades etc.
@@thomasrosendahl2783 good thing they dont have to go without that magic resistance then I guess
@@thomasrosendahl2783 Sure, but they remain my favorite race, in terms of the history and etc.
@@thomasrosendahl2783 yeah no shit, if you take away a races main power that will make them weak lol
@@thomasrosendahl2783 and the Bretons destroyed orsinium without using their resist magic ability as much as their martial ability because the orca aren’t exactly known for fighting with magic.
Snow Elves, remnant of the Aldmer who didn't remain stranded on the shatered landmass that later becomes Summerset, probably similar to how the Nedes and Atmorians got separated. Tamriel befoe the Elnofey wars is a sort of Pangea IRL
Snow Elves were Aldmer in Altmora, the Elderwood. Skyrim was the last bastion of Altmora till the Nords came back and essentially finished what their ancestors started....
Sucks for the Snow Elves, they and their ancestors have been defending Skyrim from Nords since damn near the Dawn Times
Morning all. This is great cause I just finished the other Breton podcast to get some info for a new build.
Cheeseburgers
The Illiac Bay region has Nedic, Altmer/Direnni, Dwemer, Yokudan, and various other lost cultural ruins...would be quite the delving being done if that's the case.
Gunna make me a Hot Breton girl named Lara in that case xD
@@LandStrider23 or a fat orc named Dungus who was touched by Sheogorath (in all the wrong ways)
@@the36lessons11 LOL! Actually, if they allowed fat looking Tank characters, that would be cool.
Perfect timing, just opened Skyrim and now I have something awesome to listen to over my Elemental Fury sound bugged save!
Thank the direnni for our beloved manmer, always make mine look as elven as possible. Don't forget that ner in them.
It's somewhat confirmed that immigration from Atmora to Tamriel came in many "waves" so it's possible Nedes are just the Atmorans that came early to Tamriel (way before Ysgrammor), with their populations spreading more widely towards northern and central Tamriel, while the Nords come from a second mass immigration of Atmorans.
Direnni were always my favorite part of high rock lore. Hope we get to see them in es6
I hope next elder Scrolls includes high rock and a part of hammerfell, it could be interesting with the frontier having an important role in the game could add a sense discovery and thrill. For example with contraband or raiding parties.
This episode was amazing
I don't play ESO but honestly if the plot of High Isle isn't super daedric stuff it'll be a pretty nice breath of fresh air, it feels like every big ESO plot has revolved around the princes in one way or another
To my understanding of it, High Isle is supposed to be more political/court intrigue and rebel/usurper group action instead of the Daedric plots.
@@bitysmith i know, i'm just saying i hope they don't rope a prince into it
I LOVE Bretons! Super excited to see if High Isle adds to the lore
The Direnni, the one group of Ancient Elves that Made Love more than War
In TES 6 you should be able to choose to help the Thalmor. The Direnni should be able to be convinced to choose between the allied forces of Hammerfell and High Rock or the Thalmor, and play a key role in victory
Ayyy this worked out well as a tie in for ESO's new chapter
the story of the direnni and the breaton is very similar to that of latin america and particularly Mexico, the spaniards "breeding" with the natives creating modern Latinos
Those magical Spaniards...
I think it was based on that. Elder scrolls takes a lot inspiration from real history. Cyrodillic Empire-Roman Empire, Nords-Vikings, So your theory has merits.
My favorite race! Thanks guys!!
Hope we learn who the druids of galen are in the high isle chapter since they've been ignored since arena and they talked about expanding on the druidism aspect of bretons.
Direnni was Gentrified into extinction confirmed
I wait all week for the podcast! Keep it up guys!
Just wanted to say, I usually listen to the podcast at work on Spotify, but everytime I can listen to it on YT I do, hoping it gives a better revenue/view
I’m excited for Elder Scrolls 6 Hammerfell & Highrock.
So just curious, is there going to be a podcast for the other 2 living gods? I watched a sotha sil video and looked for the others and was like, oh snap it's future content?
Scott will probably make the Vivec podcast into three 4-hour long parts.
@@badluck5647 I'm here for that
Imperial Orrery shows the solar system of mundus. All of the planets in the system are named after the elves ancestors My hypothesis is that the Mer came from other planets in the system (Aldmer) this could explain why all of the elves are so different considering they have extremely long lifespans. and the time it would take for them to evolve separately, would be significant. Altmer, falmer, dwemer, seaelfs, left hand elf. If each race of elf came from a different planet in the system it would make more sense for them to settle a different area on Nirn. Then to come from some distant continent spread out to each area on tamriel and then evolve separately in such a short amount of time.
It appears that the elven society starts out with advanced technology and slowly degrades over time. All of the ancient Nords ruins also seem to have stolen Mer technology, particularly dwemer. Including their doors, traps, secret passageways and enchanting. Once the nords got rid of the snow elves they had a golden age and from then on their society started to degrade into the fourth era where technology is less advanced. And magic is shunned.
HOT TAKE: ES6 Will be like Legend of Zelda Windwaker with boat travel down the Illiac Bay and with Sword Singing being the music.
I knew the cop sirens going off at 5 in the morning was a sign of a fudgemuppet upload.
So the comments Serana make about the Dwemer could mean that she was alive before they dissapeared and went to sleep long after the red mountain incident and maybe never knew they had dissapeared which would work with the 2nd era statement by devs
Thing is how many mer are there in Harkons court? And weren't the Dwemer known to keep to themselves and not have too many relations with anyone else?
The Battle of Glenumbra Moors is a great example of what is called a pyrrhic victory. A victory so costly it is a loss in the long term.
The term comes from the Greek King Pyrrhus of Epirus who won the Battle of Asculum against the Romans in 279 BC but lost so many men that he was forced to surrender when the Romans send reinforcements later.
Bretons are my favourite I can’t wait to enjoy seeing them in high isle even if it’s small
Podcast time!!! :D
Always a great morning when I wake up to a notification from fudge muppet
I really wish they had made bretons just a bit more elven than imperial looking. Like maybe they have human sized ears but they have just a bit of a point
No cap. My newest playthrough character's name is Loliah Direnni. She is half Altmer (father) half Dunmer (mother).
Who among the Direnni first summoned the dummy-thicc Flame Atronachs, again? 😁
The more boats the better! What's wrong witchall?
Love me my Bretons
Scott's right. The Neides were there long before the elves and not all of those living in high rock were Neides.
Direnni down bad for dem nede cheeks
A new podcast is like a blessing from the divines themselfs
These videos are 500k+ view worthy. Such a shame the guys get so little views. This shit is gold.
Definitely prefer ES6 is in High Rock over Hammerfell.
Do you think the Breton fixation with questing and rising above your station are a left over relic from being able to be more than just a common Nede serf by being born a Breton?
I desperately want TES6 to be Hammerfell and High Rock where the conclusion will be about the Direnni and the aperture stone. The bit about joining the Thalmor should work. There could be a Justicar that you can side with and do some quests to snuff out Blades in Hammerfell or something like that while for the main story we still have the big bad High Justicar to deal with (Still imagining my theory of the big bad Thalmor mantling the former Trinimac after doing some crazy ritual to split Malacath in two).
When I saw the trailer for the new LOTR series, I thought it was a new trailer for High Isle, and was very confused for a moment since I was signed into Netflix.
I imagine the Direnni intermarriaed with all the Mer refugees they granted asylum to from the Ayleids and Pre Sundering Falmer aka the snow elves before they were blinded.
Indeed. The Direnni are probably all that remains from those Elves.
@@LandStrider23 Well not really the sundered Falmer's minds seem to clearing up as time goes on and some folk in Cyrodill probably have some Ayleid blood in them.
Cold take: shirtless hot take podcast. 🔥
Keep it in your pants, lady
@@badluck5647 😂
@@badluck5647 no kink shaming! I am down with a nipple reveal on episode 100
Made alchemy potion that did not harm her but poisoned the vampire through her blood was it vitamin D concentration 😆
Right on time, thankyou very much
Thank you guys! ❤️❤️❤️ I was up early, & looking forward to my weekly dose of Elder Scrolls lore discussion. Are any of you familiar with authors Terry Goodkind, or L.E. Modesitt? They both have fun fantasy series.
Every elder scrolls game, i play a new dirreni clan member.
Bretons in my opinion are the most powerful race, apart from Argonians heh.
They are the Half Mer and Half Men, get the benefits from both races, they remind me of Tolkien's Half-men/elf or the Numenorians.
A suggestion for a future podcast (though I doubt you need it). What happens to each race/culture in the future? For example: The Redguards, with their hatred of magic and knowledge of sword singing, inherent the “tonal technology“ of the Dwemer etc.
This is a great episode! Good job guys! ⚔️🛡🏹🔥
If the next elders scroll could have more than one region it would def be Amazing for rp. I mean contrabad could be a gun gameplay
Lukewarm take. TES6 should have the main enemy be the sload. With them as the enemy you would have either a boss fight, or an enemy you can battle throughout the game depending on how they balance it. I would assume it would go something along the lines of War unending followed by trying to kill the last of the dragons, maybe a medium threat larger than dragons like maybe vermina tries to conquer nirn, but it's kinda easy to thwart, and then hard-core thrass is invading
another sunday another elder scrolls podcast
best part of the week lets go
I'm always happy for another podcast
The Doreen, they had Nedes...
What is tes 6 exclusively takes place in the illiac bay and its more of a sea of theives type game
I'm just curious on what kind of impact the DragonBorn will have on TES6 or if they will just be forgotten
So do the Direnni want to destroy the world like the Thalmor do? Or do they want to preserve?
Can't remember where I heard this, but I believe the Direnni harbor refugees running from the Thalmor. Nothing is certain, but it looks like whatever the Thalmor are up to, the Direnni don't seem to like it
You cited the text where the Direnni claim to have taken over Markarth in 1E 477. Got me thinking; Wasn't Markarth still the Dwemer city of Nchuand-Zel back then?
I think it is a similar kind of inconsistensy with the Direnni claim of being the first to sack Orsinium. Elinhir would have been a Nedic rather than Redguard city.
To my knowledge, thats due to Bethesda heavily changing the lore on Markarth and Skyrim in general. In older lore, the Dwemer apparently had no presence in Skyrim whatsoever, Markarth was just another Nord village with some Direnni influence from what I can tell.
ESO follows TES:V's retconned version of Skyrim, so that's why Markarth was a Dwemer ruin instead of an ancient Nordic-style city built into the mountainside, mixed with some Direnni ruins in the surrounding area's.
Not saying which style is better, just clarifying what happened and why it is Dwemer in the 4th & 2nd Era's.
Happy Sunday
It would be very cool to see maybe in elder scrolls online or elder scrolls 6 that the brenton family lines come back as in elves come back into the bloodline
Well considering some of the Breton royals have elvish ears in lore, if TESVI gives that option you can roleplay that. Or, since they're making "backstories" for Starfield, I could see that being implemented in some form for TESVI character creation. So long as it isn't too constricting.
Then again, they could just give you the option to forgo a backstory altogether, and start the game with just your racial bonuses.
Make a podcast where you look at each other and ocasionally sip water for an hour no talking
Why did you guys get rid od your oblivon playthrough??
This sounds interesting 🤔
Interesting video to put up with the new ESO announcement.
Elder Scrolls is like the Tool of video games, still waiting.....
Honestly, I would love to see a DnD pack specifically tailored to Elder Scrolls lore. Idk, thought just popped up top
All your squares are the same colour - Reeeeeeeee!
True Kings hate "it is what it is" Drew knows what's up
I can't bring myself to agree with the comments about being happy with anything they give us for a game. We have waited so long that whatever they give us needs to meet at least some expectations, or they will suffer CDPR styles of backlash
Direnni Elves breeding themselves out of the population is a consequence of their own success. The Direnni were true visionary creating a distinctive race all by themselves.
Good morning fellow travellers!
Gaming week
oh waiting for that High Isle episode, like I'm going to give them the chance to prove me wrong but man does it look like a ren faire.
I enjoy these podcasts, but I don't like how some are one big Scott monologue. Does he ever engage with anything anyone else says? He makes point upon point and when Drew or Michael put something forward he side steps it and continues with some other point.
“Poggers!” 😂🤣🤘🏼