I just shot a feature film with an open box deal, 1,200 bucks, S5. The only strange thing about this camera is what you get for the price. I shot into the Ninja V, so I was getting 422, 12 bit, 5.9k RAW...at FULL frame. I was a big fan of GH4 and 5's, loved them, but it has to be said, comparing M4/3rds to Full frame is like comparing poetry to the phone book. Put good glass on this little baby and you will have to spend 70k on an Alexa to see any difference, ...(oh, the color science on this and the S1H comes from the Alexa, my bad.) For a filmmaker, unless you need a global shutter for action sequences, I can't see why you would need any other camera. I am now editing the film. It is a piece of crap, but...it looks fecking wonderful!
Could be a bit wider, but loving it as well. Just a bit wider! For vlogging. And getting on the damn videomicro is a pain. Ignored that last trip, ruined 80% of my footage with wind noise. Oh well know next time, always external mic and dead cat.
I’ve been a professional videographer for over 10 years. I can count on one hand how many times I’ve filmed using autofocus. Yes it’s nice to have but judging from the comments, everyone is a vlogger and not a commercial videographer. This looks like a lovely little camera but I’m still leaning towards the S1H for my GH5s upgrade.
That’s nice, but try using a camera with really solid tracking and AF, you don’t know how much you’re missing until you use it. If you’re using a gh5s of course you’re not going to use AF it’s shit. I never used af on my lumix g7, but I have a Sony now, and I don’t manual focus at all. Why worry about on the fundamentals and if it’s focused, when I can focus on angles, lighting and story? I get it “manual focus takes more skill” but your client doesn’t care, and neither should you. Easier is better, because you can focus on things that matter more. You sound like people who say 4K doesn’t matter and that you should get it right in camera and shoot JPEG.
Daaaaamn. Finaly someone who doesn't give a shit about autofocus and someone who knows what is gh5s and uses it. Thank you sir. Except vloger who must have autofocus, people would be surprise how cool is manual focus and easy to use, and not hard to learn.
Panasonic users: AF are for Vloggers Me: But I can turn off the AF if I want to use Manual in any cameras, what is the point? End of the day it is nice to have both AF + MF functionality against one.
I have never used auto focus since I started shooting in 2015. so everytime people make a fuss about how bad it is I am always so unbothered lol this camera is perfect
All these random issues with autofocus, pricing, features compared to their other cameras etc, made me think that Panasonic guys are very good at what they do, while somehow having no actual idea about what exactly they do and why they are doing it.
i think their cinema department is like an older mean brother, throwing scrapes down to the photo/hybrid line. they doing the best they can with what they got hahaha
Ahah pretty much. Imagine if they all called a 1-year truce and all shared notes and patents, all cameras would stop being so weirdly handicapped in this era of the supermirrorless. Just let me dream
I think engineers still have quite some influence at Panasonic instead of managers with only "management skills" or the marketing department. I think we should be gratefull for that.
What an awesome looking camera save for the autofocus. Their bizarre insistence with sticking with contrast AF is like Sony's previous bizarre insistence with non-flippy screens.
Yeah,like who am I?Am I crippled,just another of 400 models,trying to head back to baby hands small,cropped,not cropped,and who do i want to buy me????
Gerald, you are so freakin smart!!! Did you do something in your past that keep NASA from recruiting you 😊. Your integrity, honestly and professionalisms are not going unnoticed. Thank you 🙏🏿
This is the best review I've seen so far . As a full manual focus videographer this is the best camera for me. I am buying one the decision is made. I don't even know the auto focus settings on any camera I've ever owned lol
I’m so proud of you.Even when I think of something I’ll still looking for your videos….they’re so valuable and I hope that you understand that and keep going,at least for the poor and hobbyists like me.A misstep and we’re done.Thank you Gerald for everything you are.
Am i the only person that loves the intro “lets get undone” 😁 cant wait for his review on the RED komodo 6k cause i know hes going to tell the truth that we arnt getting
@@TripleVR At the moment, the only Komodos in the wild are the preordered beta versions which have been a target of much derision. The Komodo isn't going to hit the shelves for a little while yet. Gerald doesn't seem to have the connections with RED that would allow him to get a review copy, so he would either have to borrow a beta version from someone, or wait until they are available from a rental house.
This is making me wanna wait for the Sony A74 all I need is 10bit 4K 60fps and 26MP for photography and 13 stops DR! Perfect hybrid camera right there. Canon R6 could have done this smh I think Sony will perfect it
Have been a G85 user for 5 years seriously considering the S5 as an upgrade for it's video features and most importantly it's probably the best bargain for a full frame camera! The auto focus for me is not a big deal as I mostly use manual focus and what I love about Panasonic is the consistent firmware updates and how they continually support their older cameras even the G85 which is probably 6 or 7 years old now since it's first release! My G85 just keeps getting better even the auto focus with every new firmware update and I know the S5 will have that same support.
100% agree. I just upgraded my G80/G85 to the S5 and it’s fantastic! AF is fine. I was deciding between the Sony a7iii or the s5 and still the s5 is better for me. It’s easier to use and the UI is just as good as canons
Awesome review. You're the best and most exhaustive (and exhausting technical) reviewer EVER! You just need to talk faster---just a suggestion. But, please, let me give you a BIG thanks for giving us poor, neglected fully manual, 3rd party, non-electronic linear focus lens video shooters just a few seconds of your review by mentioning that the S5 does not immediately KILL focus peaking once you hit record--like the S1 did. For me it was a deal breaker! Sadly, Panasonic still does not provide the ability to punch in to check focus during recording (like the Sony and Fuji), but still that's an enormous help just not to lose the peaking. In addition, the coming DCI firmware update makes this a formidable video machine---the FF GH5 so many of us wanted----with better color than Sony. This camera may be the best feature set for the price ever! Thank you so much!!
Thank you. Your info is invaluable and your unique delivery is attention-grabbing. I purchased this camers kit for work and so far am loving it. Yes video focus is a thing but if you shoot content that's is less dynamic it's a great kit.
When walking you could always switch to manual focus. I would use manual focus in a lot of situations and actually prefer the extra control. In most situations there is a work around for the autofocus limitations. There really isn't anything else full frame at the price point with it's video features. If you buy an external recorder then the whole package is still a fantastic deal imo.
Thanks for your review. As an S1 owner I have to say I still prefer it for video, I am sure others will go crazy for the RAW but all I care about is good 422. Amazing to see this handle heat so well beyond what it is rated compared to recent canon models, and can't wait for the new AF updates to backport to my S1. I think this thing will be dope for someone who hasnt bought into l mount yet and wants to jump in or as a b cam to someone with an s1h
@@carter_is_here S5 feels better in the hands, has more intuitive designs, cleaner high speed frame rates, and is much more functional for filmmaking in my opinion.
An interesting release from Panasonic and definitely seems like good value at the price but I think if I’m going to change from GH5 to a different camera body I’d rather save some extra money and buy an A7SIII. Will be curious to see what Panny does with MFT cameras and how S5 will line up against GH6 if it ever comes out. Thanks for making me instantly knowledgeable about a camera as always, Gerald
I have found it hard after using Panasonic cameras to use Sony. They are so unfriendly to use, they feel so surgical. The a7iii particularly has a horrible evf and back screen, with low resolution and terrible colours that don't particularly show you the reality of what the shot looks like. Therr isn't as many buttons and as much customisation. The only thing Sony ATM has over my gh5 that I consider important is auto focus, but as someone who trained cinema, I usually use manual focus anyway...
Indeed - one of the few things that can never be fixed in post (except by cutting), is focus. So anyone that doesn't focus old school manual, runs the risk of not documenting whatever they are filming. My thoughts much like with the Canon R5 - if you are professional and it takes two cameras to feel secure about using professionally - they need to be cheap enough to warrant buying two. R5, you need two to continue shooting, by switching them out. And with this camera, apparently you need two to be running simultaneously, so that you have something to cut to when the focus goes soft. Good review, Gerald. At some point, with my mountain of old cameras ( GH4, A7s, A6300, Canon EX350 etc. ) I will eventually be replacing them, and start my personal museum. Having your videos on here is a resource for me to make as good a decision as possible.This is priceless. Thank you for that.
Thought about preordering the S5 but also just got the tamron 17-28mm for the sony. Might have to save up for a year to buy the siii. Even though I would've honestly loved! The s5 with that kit lense 20-60mm it's a vlogging dream lol
Actually, as a 4-year user of Lumix products, I find the S5 and S1 to be very different cameras. The HDMI connection, lack of top plate display and possibly less tank-like construction totally make the S1 more suitable for professional use. It's worth the extra money in my opinion. Personally, I want the S5. After I get an S1H and S1R. I think it would make a fantastic street and travel camera for personal and professional use. For the price and features, you get about 85%'sh of what the big brothers offer. But that last 15% is a real difference for the professional stills and video shooter. And like other things in life, that difference is worth the price difference. I think Panasonic has done a great job of segmenting their camera line.
Well, considered I never used an autofocus for the past 8 years, I'm getting this one. I loved the S1 look, but it really was too big, so this S5 seems perfect to me.
@@zerkorj Yeah it you're running a whole crew. 95% of people using lower end cameras like this dont have that. Plus they added better focus on the mark ii version.
@@QUINPANO I'm shooting 80% alone 20% with a crew I never use autofocus. I think it also depend on what you're filming. For the Mark II like someone Saïd in another comment S5 II has fixed pattern noise issues due to the phase detect sensors on the camera sensor
Great review! One more in-depth than others I've seen. I think this would be the perfect Film Student/Indy Camera. With the price point over the SONY a7S III making all these 'higher end' functions available at a lower price point... and with waveforms, V-log, Anamorphic(?!) + Timecode... I feel this is the perfect small indy film camera. The in body stabilization is good enough... Film students need to learn how to use cameras without image stabilization (using traditional rigs, tripods and steadycams) and the poor auto-focus only reinforces that a student must learn the skills of manual rack focusing. Thanks! Camera bought!
I think panasonic DFD was ok on the FZ1000, small sensor with lots of depth of field, but is painful to watch from a full frame camera on a large screen TV
Great in-depth review again full of practical info, I'm considering this camera as my s1h with a big honking lens is so heavy I barely use it for travel stuff or on gimbals. I like and appreciate Panasonic for consistently including features that canon and sony leave off their cameras in the same price range but include for $2-12k more. I'm so sick of having to sell cameras every year to avoid losing a ton of money and these reviews really help my decision-making process. I don't really want more than 6k but the new fuji with the medium format sensor is compelling, hope you get one of those to review!
For stills, without tracking, this camera is one of the best around. The lack of AA filter and the thin filter glass, sensor quality and colour science is one of the best on the market. Video is awesome. Tracking AF for video has been much improved but as most professional videographers shoot manual its a mute point. Video functionality, including unlimited records and no overheat makes this so amazing. At its current discount levels for one of the sharpest FF cameras about, its a bargain. The cherry on the top are the lenses. The extent of Sigma, Panasonic and Leica lenses available for the L-mount make is the second best lens selection IMHO after Sony E-mount.
From the specs I saw of the S5, I thought it might actually be something to invest in adding to my filmmaking gear. But...the AF is still as unreliable as ever. Killing any further consideration. Anyway, thanks for your usual thorough and in-depth review.
Panasonic are an all out company, they’re in for the long haul and not the short game, they don’t play consumer politics the way some other brands do, they don’t treat their customers as if they were born yesterday either. Now i’m no vlogger, I watch Gerald’s channel because, well he’s a great at what he does. I shoot stills, but one thing I see in Lumix cameras is that they are veritable sweet shops once you dive into them, and are not only full of goodies but shelf space for future development in tech. As far as autofocus goes, well I get the videographer frustrations but with a company like Panasonic I just think that they will crack that autofocus nut very soon, long haul, for you guys as they pretty much have for still shooters. Panasonic will make fast and big firmware strides with this camera unlike some, you’ll be very glad you have an S5 very soon or you’ll wish you had one ...👍
I recently bought this camera, but with a 24-70 2.8 Sigma Art as the main allround lens and a Sigma 50mm 1.4 for other stuff. So far I'm quite happy with it, still in the process of getting to know the camera. When I got it, it felt very small in my rather large hands, so I added the battery grip, which makes the handling a lot easier.
From what I have observed, S5 seems to be an APS-C camera that is doing its best to be a full frame camera. Just not there yet. Sony a73 on the other hand has well established a main feature that should not be treated as secondary which is the auto focus. The 10bit recording was suppose to be the dagger but failed to deliver considering how auto focus could be a deal braker to some.
@𝙹𝚎𝚛𝙸𝚖𝙸𝚊𝚑 Not entirely what I mean. What I am trying to say is panasonic is the one making the S5 more of an APSC camera by the way they limit the features. Its like all the good features are only available through a cropped sensor and the full frame is like a snippet where you can still use but have been limited for some reason. Considering how their autofocus system acts like it requires a large processor to function properly.
Great review Gerald. The most important thing on any camera is auto focus and here this is a deal breaker for me. This will affect low light performance more as well, which again is a real pain. Panasonic have the means to sort this so there's no excuse really.
Awesome video! (...and I'm not just saying that because I'm in it! 😄) I was shocked to learn that the S5 is smaller than the GH5!! I remember the GH5 feeling so small in my hands! All these small changes over the years are so gradual it's hard to notice unless you do a side-by-side comparison.
Great video - but I feel like it's a bit unfair to label it primarily as "strange" in the title just because of how they didn't nerf its features much compared to the S1. That's a good thing, and should be encouraged - yet "strange" has a negative connotation.
If Panasonic ever get their AF system to mimic what Sony and Canon are doing and build a solid lens selection then they make take Nikon's market share. Great video 👌
Nail on the head there that buying the S1 new now does not make a lot of sense, could perhaps mean the S1 price is up for a heavy adjustment. Either way, early S1 adopters aren't going to be happy. Interesting times for Panasonic for sure. I've been a long time Panasonic shooter, however I feel that unless the GH6 is an astounding camera then perhaps it is time to start offloading my M43 native glass to clear the way for a full frame future. If I am to re-invest in a new system, it won't be to a mount with limited choice and/or astronomical prices, and especially when that system still has such compromised continuous AF for a player that is so strong on video in virtually every other aspect. Now that Sony seem to have their s**t together with codecs, rolling shutter and the like, I feel E-Mount on the A7s III makes the most sense from a capability perspective. Still, price is going to be an issue where, so we'll see...
I don't know about everyone else, but the S5 has everything I need to make what I want. Only downside is the autofocus being... Panasonic's autofocus. I'm saving up for it and should be able to get it at the end of the year, working two jobs has been hell but it's worth it. I don't care about autofocus much since I just connect through the app and focus manually anyway on my GX85.
Panasonic refusing to go with a better AF system is what will cause many to leave them, including myself. Stinks, because I love their cameras otherwise.
As an owner of the S1, I had hope that perhaps AF could be improved with updates, but if this is what they call state of the ART, then I’m officially done with Panasonic. I even invested in native glass.
@@dausherryanddhy9508 Body + Glass is a double blow. Too bad because Panasonic made great cameras my fav being the GH5 and of course there will never be a GH6.
Paul C I came from the GH4. Till this day, I still consider it revolutionary for its time. Was thinking about upgrading to the GH5, but I was so content with my GH4, that by the time I was ready to move on, they announced the S1, so I went with it instead. However, this time, competition is strong with Nikon and Canon getting in the game, pushing even Sony to step up. This competition may infact cause the GH6 to possibly never come. If the S5 releases at $2k, the GH6 would have to be around $1700 and even entry level full frame mirrorless can be found for that price. I just don’t see Panasonic lasting too long outside their hardcore user base.
Paul C whoa whoa easy, gh6 is coming soon. Hybrid(gh6), new video oriented camera that will replace gh5s(gh6v), and the third will be for photography with 40mp or something.
idk why everyone complains about Panasonic AF so much, I’ve been using the gh line for years and it honestly rarely gives me problems...they still make the best value robust cameras anyone could ask for ESP for video
If I understood only 1/4 of what you know, I could make a good decision about which budget/prosumer video camera best fits my needs. I’m subscribing to your channel because it’s no-nonsense. Thanks!
I'm not sure if you are aware, when you record a static scene the battery run time is at it's best. When recording a consistently changing scene the camera does much more work encoding new images per frame and that is how you get a better estimate of battery run time. When you have the camera writing the same image over and over again, it doesn't get stressed as much.
AF isn't an issue for me so I was liking the spec of this camera as a FF upgrade to the GH5. Disappointing to hear the IBIS isn't as good though, plus the few other quirks like no all-intra and dropping to 8 bit on certain settings. Hmmm. I don't think I'm quite convinced but I keep the faith that Panasonic will pull something out the bag this year! Excellent review as ever though, really thorough. Thank you.
Great video, will you be testing the 6k raw and the other things added in the new update. To see how much better it is now... Keep up the great work...
I have set one button of my gh5 to af near and one to af far. If i want to focus something fast i push the button and it focuses immediately. This also works in video. Af issues fixed. No problems whatsoever
I just shot a feature film with an open box deal, 1,200 bucks, S5. The only strange thing about this camera is what you get for the price. I shot into the Ninja V, so I was getting 422, 12 bit, 5.9k RAW...at FULL frame. I was a big fan of GH4 and 5's, loved them, but it has to be said, comparing M4/3rds to Full frame is like comparing poetry to the phone book. Put good glass on this little baby and you will have to spend 70k on an Alexa to see any difference, ...(oh, the color science on this and the S1H comes from the Alexa, my bad.) For a filmmaker, unless you need a global shutter for action sequences, I can't see why you would need any other camera. I am now editing the film. It is a piece of crap, but...it looks fecking wonderful!
Hit me with that beautiful purple knowledge! Great video brotha!
Just saw your review on the s5 👌🏽 great review
Beautiful purple knowledge! 😂😂🤣🤣
PURPLE KNOWLEDGE
On point 👌🏾
I love the 20-60mm focal range of the kit lens. Other manufactures should definitely adopt this instead of using 28mm at the wide end.
Could be a bit wider, but loving it as well. Just a bit wider! For vlogging. And getting on the damn videomicro is a pain. Ignored that last trip, ruined 80% of my footage with wind noise. Oh well know next time, always external mic and dead cat.
I’ve been a professional videographer for over 10 years. I can count on one hand how many times I’ve filmed using autofocus. Yes it’s nice to have but judging from the comments, everyone is a vlogger and not a commercial videographer. This looks like a lovely little camera but I’m still leaning towards the S1H for my GH5s upgrade.
It helps if you’re using a gimbal or ronin but you’re right, manual focus is a dying art
That’s nice, but try using a camera with really solid tracking and AF, you don’t know how much you’re missing until you use it. If you’re using a gh5s of course you’re not going to use AF it’s shit. I never used af on my lumix g7, but I have a Sony now, and I don’t manual focus at all. Why worry about on the fundamentals and if it’s focused, when I can focus on angles, lighting and story? I get it “manual focus takes more skill” but your client doesn’t care, and neither should you. Easier is better, because you can focus on things that matter more. You sound like people who say 4K doesn’t matter and that you should get it right in camera and shoot JPEG.
Daaaaamn. Finaly someone who doesn't give a shit about autofocus and someone who knows what is gh5s and uses it. Thank you sir.
Except vloger who must have autofocus, people would be surprise how cool is manual focus and easy to use, and not hard to learn.
Panasonic users: AF are for Vloggers
Me: But I can turn off the AF if I want to use Manual in any cameras, what is the point?
End of the day it is nice to have both AF + MF functionality against one.
I have never used auto focus since I started shooting in 2015. so everytime people make a fuss about how bad it is I am always so unbothered lol this camera is perfect
Next intro: I'm Gerald Undone and I've gone and Done Ungerald myself.
finally a channel that uses the metric system, i love you Geral
All these random issues with autofocus, pricing, features compared to their other cameras etc, made me think that Panasonic guys are very good at what they do, while somehow having no actual idea about what exactly they do and why they are doing it.
I have used Panasonic for years and this is the most true statement one can say.
i think their cinema department is like an older mean brother, throwing scrapes down to the photo/hybrid line. they doing the best they can with what they got hahaha
Ahah pretty much. Imagine if they all called a 1-year truce and all shared notes and patents, all cameras would stop being so weirdly handicapped in this era of the supermirrorless.
Just let me dream
I think engineers still have quite some influence at Panasonic instead of managers with only "management skills" or the marketing department. I think we should be gratefull for that.
Video autofocus never an issue for me, as I'm old-school video guy. All my GH series cameras serve/served my needs brilliantly.
What an awesome looking camera save for the autofocus. Their bizarre insistence with sticking with contrast AF is like Sony's previous bizarre insistence with non-flippy screens.
I would hold on to that statement until they release the A7IV. I‘m not fully convinced yet that it will come with a flip out screen
Panasonic reminds me of a directionless teenager. Stop playing video games and fix your autofocus, then you can have dessert :)
P.S What is Bokeh?
the goat is here
Toneh on top
It’s like a Toneh but from 1997 👽🖖
Yeah,like who am I?Am I crippled,just another of 400 models,trying to head back to baby hands small,cropped,not cropped,and who do i want to buy me????
How come you didn’t get one of these? You built your channel on Panasonic... you should be a Panasonic ambassador!
Gerald, you are so freakin smart!!! Did you do something in your past that keep NASA from recruiting you 😊. Your integrity, honestly and professionalisms are not going unnoticed. Thank you 🙏🏿
being Canadian could be a part of it 😅
This is brilliant but Ola Englund needs to sort his "Will It Chug" Playlist! 😂😂😂😂😂
Pls, no! I would have never found that gem otherwise xD
@@DerAykac or maybe that was the goal all along! 🤣🤣
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the correct and only review you need on youtube HANDS DOWN
Gerald is the best reviewer i have ever seen. honest , humorous,technical,knowledgeable..... not like anybody else. the only we treat respectfully
Great stuff as always. Man! Keeping up with these new cameras is cray!!
It's ridiculous isn't it
This is the best review I've seen so far . As a full manual focus videographer this is the best camera for me. I am buying one the decision is made. I don't even know the auto focus settings on any camera I've ever owned lol
13:51 Gerald at peak, Bruce Banner power.
MAKE. ART. NOW. Fun fact: his t-shirts are actually white, he just counters his green-ness with purple overcorrection.
Bahaha! 🤓🙏💜
First link I clicked after the announcement. You're my guy, Gerald! ;)
Again watching this instead of the actual announcement. you rock Gerald
I second that
Now, I will watch this review once again😁
"I'm Gerold Undone, and you will respect my AUTHORITAH."
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Gerald - You ALWAYS ALWAYS impress with something new and all things great - KNOWLEDGE 👍🏻
I’m so proud of you.Even when I think of something I’ll still looking for your videos….they’re so valuable and I hope that you understand that and keep going,at least for the poor and hobbyists like me.A misstep and we’re done.Thank you Gerald for everything you are.
Am i the only person that loves the intro “lets get undone” 😁 cant wait for his review on the RED komodo 6k cause i know hes going to tell the truth that we arnt getting
Do we know he's getting hold of a Komodo, or is that a hope?
@@raksh9 It would be insane if he didn't. A bit more than an a7s3 or an r5 and you get an effing red camera with a global shutter? wew lad
@@TripleVR At the moment, the only Komodos in the wild are the preordered beta versions which have been a target of much derision. The Komodo isn't going to hit the shelves for a little while yet. Gerald doesn't seem to have the connections with RED that would allow him to get a review copy, so he would either have to borrow a beta version from someone, or wait until they are available from a rental house.
This is making me wanna wait for the Sony A74 all I need is 10bit 4K 60fps and 26MP for photography and 13 stops DR! Perfect hybrid camera right there. Canon R6 could have done this smh I think Sony will perfect it
Any updates? The a7iv has eye AF issues and also crippled the a7iv.
I had to look up what the “My name Jeff” was from, but what a delivery from Gerald! 😂
Didn't find it...
Clue please ?
@@guillaumemarrou6415 it's from 22 jump street
Really?!!!
Have been a G85 user for 5 years seriously considering the S5 as an upgrade for it's video features and most importantly it's probably the best bargain for a full frame camera! The auto focus for me is not a big deal as I mostly use manual focus and what I love about Panasonic is the consistent firmware updates and how they continually support their older cameras even the G85 which is probably 6 or 7 years old now since it's first release! My G85 just keeps getting better even the auto focus with every new firmware update and I know the S5 will have that same support.
100% agree. I just upgraded my G80/G85 to the S5 and it’s fantastic! AF is fine. I was deciding between the Sony a7iii or the s5 and still the s5 is better for me. It’s easier to use and the UI is just as good as canons
Bruh this was is was in "WILL IT CHUG?" playlist.
thats where i found it too
same here
Awesome review. You're the best and most exhaustive (and exhausting technical) reviewer EVER! You just need to talk faster---just a suggestion.
But, please, let me give you a BIG thanks for giving us poor, neglected fully manual, 3rd party, non-electronic linear focus lens video shooters just a few seconds of your review by mentioning that the S5 does not immediately KILL focus peaking once you hit record--like the S1 did. For me it was a deal breaker!
Sadly, Panasonic still does not provide the ability to punch in to check focus during recording (like the Sony and Fuji), but still that's an enormous help just not to lose the peaking. In addition, the coming DCI firmware update makes this a formidable video machine---the FF GH5 so many of us wanted----with better color than Sony.
This camera may be the best feature set for the price ever!
Thank you so much!!
Thank you. Your info is invaluable and your unique delivery is attention-grabbing. I purchased this camers kit for work and so far am loving it. Yes video focus is a thing but if you shoot content that's is less dynamic it's a great kit.
When walking you could always switch to manual focus. I would use manual focus in a lot of situations and actually prefer the extra control. In most situations there is a work around for the autofocus limitations. There really isn't anything else full frame at the price point with it's video features. If you buy an external recorder then the whole package is still a fantastic deal imo.
I love how easy It is yo go between manual and auto. One thumb movement. Ontop of multiple multi function buttons
I think this is the only channel on youtube providing actual useful knowledge. Thanks Gerald.
when I first found out about this channel you quickly became my NEW fav and it's been so long and you still are.
Great video as always. You always tests the features that are rarely mentioned in others' videos. Which is why I love your videos so much.
Thanks for your review. As an S1 owner I have to say I still prefer it for video, I am sure others will go crazy for the RAW but all I care about is good 422. Amazing to see this handle heat so well beyond what it is rated compared to recent canon models, and can't wait for the new AF updates to backport to my S1. I think this thing will be dope for someone who hasnt bought into l mount yet and wants to jump in or as a b cam to someone with an s1h
I'd be tempted by the s5 but currently there's a deal where I can buy the s1 for £300 less than the s5. No brainer.
SFV carries the fgc.
Image quality out of the s5 is hands down better than the s1. Having worked with both on projects there’s really no comparison
@@DanielTroyer anything you prefer about the S1? Or S5 all the way??
@@carter_is_here S5 feels better in the hands, has more intuitive designs, cleaner high speed frame rates, and is much more functional for filmmaking in my opinion.
got this camera after your review. thanks for the in depth view
MY NAME JEFF KILLED ME HAHAHAHAUA 😂😂😂
hehe :)
An interesting release from Panasonic and definitely seems like good value at the price but I think if I’m going to change from GH5 to a different camera body I’d rather save some extra money and buy an A7SIII. Will be curious to see what Panny does with MFT cameras and how S5 will line up against GH6 if it ever comes out. Thanks for making me instantly knowledgeable about a camera as always, Gerald
all panny has to do is make a GH6 with Canon's DPAF and they would basically have the perfect camera
@@jtdiddy3160 all Canon needs to do is not overheat like any other camera and IT is the perfect camera
@@iwaswithyourmom9410 for the price point, the GH6 would be a better solution imo
totally agree. GH6 with good AF, or save for a7sIII
I have found it hard after using Panasonic cameras to use Sony. They are so unfriendly to use, they feel so surgical. The a7iii particularly has a horrible evf and back screen, with low resolution and terrible colours that don't particularly show you the reality of what the shot looks like.
Therr isn't as many buttons and as much customisation. The only thing Sony ATM has over my gh5 that I consider important is auto focus, but as someone who trained cinema, I usually use manual focus anyway...
Does it chug or not? I don't understand 😕
Indeed - one of the few things that can never be fixed in post (except by cutting), is focus. So anyone that doesn't focus old school manual, runs the risk of not documenting whatever they are filming. My thoughts much like with the Canon R5 - if you are professional and it takes two cameras to feel secure about using professionally - they need to be cheap enough to warrant buying two. R5, you need two to continue shooting, by switching them out. And with this camera, apparently you need two to be running simultaneously, so that you have something to cut to when the focus goes soft.
Good review, Gerald. At some point, with my mountain of old cameras ( GH4, A7s, A6300, Canon EX350 etc. ) I will eventually be replacing them, and start my personal museum. Having your videos on here is a resource for me to make as good a decision as possible.This is priceless. Thank you for that.
I keep dreaming of a Pana with Canon DPAF... that would be...
then we would REALLY lay down the Canon CRIPPLE HAMMER,with a 3550 crop..
Couldn't agree more!
Thought about preordering the S5 but also just got the tamron 17-28mm for the sony. Might have to save up for a year to buy the siii. Even though I would've honestly loved! The s5 with that kit lense 20-60mm it's a vlogging dream lol
Gerald Undone is the one of best gear review channel you can trust!!! Nice review again, Thanks Gerald!!!
Gerald you are a top the range you tuber Vlogger, loving your channel more and more. We can just trust what you say, you’re the real thing. Thanks.
Actually, as a 4-year user of Lumix products, I find the S5 and S1 to be very different cameras. The HDMI connection, lack of top plate display and possibly less tank-like construction totally make the S1 more suitable for professional use. It's worth the extra money in my opinion.
Personally, I want the S5. After I get an S1H and S1R. I think it would make a fantastic street and travel camera for personal and professional use. For the price and features, you get about 85%'sh of what the big brothers offer. But that last 15% is a real difference for the professional stills and video shooter. And like other things in life, that difference is worth the price difference. I think Panasonic has done a great job of segmenting their camera line.
Excellent work as always! But...was that a shot of snow with the streetlight?! In August?!
Well, considered I never used an autofocus for the past 8 years, I'm getting this one. I loved the S1 look, but it really was too big, so this S5 seems perfect to me.
The search for perfect autofocus is like needing the pick-up truck to haul the boat you'll never own.
@@Clickumentary are you implying that people who are obsessed with autofocus don't make good content? 😂 oof
Sony A7S iii please, nice try Panasonic but now we have flippy screens, 10 bit, high frame rates and ibis. Thank you Gerald, we love your videos.
Lumix could be ahead of the game if it wasn't for the focus. Absolutely blows my mind that they would sacrifice so much of the market
@@fredriksvard2603 wildlife? Sports? Kids? Weddings?
Usually when you're a pro you don't use autofocus so It's not really a problem for everyone
@@zerkorj Yeah it you're running a whole crew. 95% of people using lower end cameras like this dont have that. Plus they added better focus on the mark ii version.
@@QUINPANO I'm shooting 80% alone 20% with a crew I never use autofocus. I think it also depend on what you're filming. For the Mark II like someone Saïd in another comment S5 II has fixed pattern noise issues due to the phase detect sensors on the camera sensor
Filmmakers who don't rely on autofocus: nice! So many excellent features for the price.
Vloggers: WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!
Gerald Undone is the only review I need! Always great and on point.
I'm a teacher and am curious how you were as a student. I think I'd enjoy you. Always nice having a sharp student.
dude I don't know how many times I've rewatched this video. looking forward to what's coming up next year!
Are you excited yet? S5ii✨
Great review! One more in-depth than others I've seen. I think this would be the perfect Film Student/Indy Camera. With the price point over the SONY a7S III making all these 'higher end' functions available at a lower price point... and with waveforms, V-log, Anamorphic(?!) + Timecode... I feel this is the perfect small indy film camera. The in body stabilization is good enough... Film students need to learn how to use cameras without image stabilization (using traditional rigs, tripods and steadycams) and the poor auto-focus only reinforces that a student must learn the skills of manual rack focusing. Thanks! Camera bought!
20-60 would be a fun range at 2.8 for sure
I think panasonic DFD was ok on the FZ1000, small sensor with lots of depth of field, but is painful to watch from a full frame camera on a large screen TV
Great in-depth review again full of practical info, I'm considering this camera as my s1h with a big honking lens is so heavy I barely use it for travel stuff or on gimbals. I like and appreciate Panasonic for consistently including features that canon and sony leave off their cameras in the same price range but include for $2-12k more. I'm so sick of having to sell cameras every year to avoid losing a ton of money and these reviews really help my decision-making process. I don't really want more than 6k but the new fuji with the medium format sensor is compelling, hope you get one of those to review!
I still wasn't enjoying it at .75 so I set it to .25 and it was fantastic. Great video~
For stills, without tracking, this camera is one of the best around. The lack of AA filter and the thin filter glass, sensor quality and colour science is one of the best on the market. Video is awesome. Tracking AF for video has been much improved but as most professional videographers shoot manual its a mute point. Video functionality, including unlimited records and no overheat makes this so amazing. At its current discount levels for one of the sharpest FF cameras about, its a bargain. The cherry on the top are the lenses. The extent of Sigma, Panasonic and Leica lenses available for the L-mount make is the second best lens selection IMHO after Sony E-mount.
Does the S5 have the '4K Live Cropping' and 'Focus Transition' features from the GH5? Great review as always!
It will be very interesting to see the specs of the upcoming Sony A7c. 4K 60, 10-bit with Sony autofocus would be awesome.
I really want that 10 bit on sony
@@sebirmoran yeah same... I'm assuming it'll be there...they can't keep making 8-bit cameras
A7c?
@@alex0589 new upcoming full frame camera for sony
@@sebirmoran @alex rumored camera, but the amount of leaks does indicate that something is being released
Gerald undone is actually the best and very very well media trained... he probably never did media training and this just him RAW AND UNDONE 😏😏
Thank you for your fantastic reviews. Very helpful :-)
Pleasure to listen to someone with your amazing knowledge. Thankyou.
From the specs I saw of the S5, I thought it might actually be something to invest in adding to my filmmaking gear. But...the AF is still as unreliable as ever. Killing any further consideration. Anyway, thanks for your usual thorough and in-depth review.
Get a follow focus and build a lil rig 😉
Panasonic are an all out company, they’re in for the long haul and not the short game, they don’t play consumer politics the way some other brands do, they don’t treat their customers as if they were born yesterday either. Now i’m no vlogger, I watch Gerald’s channel because, well he’s a great at what he does. I shoot stills, but one thing I see in Lumix cameras is that they are veritable sweet shops once you dive into them, and are not only full of goodies but shelf space for future development in tech. As far as autofocus goes, well I get the videographer frustrations but with a company like Panasonic I just think that they will crack that autofocus nut very soon, long haul, for you guys as they pretty much have for still shooters. Panasonic will make fast and big firmware strides with this camera unlike some, you’ll be very glad you have an S5 very soon or you’ll wish you had one ...👍
Very well done, detailed, fast paced and most importantly unbiased review. 👏👏👏
Outstanding review, thanks. I'm still clinging to my MFT kit. I can see where the market is going though.
I recently bought this camera, but with a 24-70 2.8 Sigma Art as the main allround lens and a Sigma 50mm 1.4 for other stuff. So far I'm quite happy with it, still in the process of getting to know the camera. When I got it, it felt very small in my rather large hands, so I added the battery grip, which makes the handling a lot easier.
Great Review Thank you.
I’m tempted just for a 20-60 lens - such a useful range
it was strange 3 years ago
it's a bargain now
Yep, i just got one.
A ridiculous bargain.
I'm still digging my Lumix S1...the 1080p 10bit looks amazing!
I just bought an S1 about a month ago. Wondering I'd the resale value will plummet with this S5.
@@itsjohnrice Just enjoy it buddy, it's a fantastic camera...don't think to buy cameras as an investment.
Like always, great no-nonsense review with real-life value for me. Thank you.
From what I have observed, S5 seems to be an APS-C camera that is doing its best to be a full frame camera. Just not there yet. Sony a73 on the other hand has well established a main feature that should not be treated as secondary which is the auto focus. The 10bit recording was suppose to be the dagger but failed to deliver considering how auto focus could be a deal braker to some.
@𝙹𝚎𝚛𝙸𝚖𝙸𝚊𝚑 Not entirely what I mean. What I am trying to say is panasonic is the one making the S5 more of an APSC camera by the way they limit the features. Its like all the good features are only available through a cropped sensor and the full frame is like a snippet where you can still use but have been limited for some reason. Considering how their autofocus system acts like it requires a large processor to function properly.
The most detailed indication so far, so helpful, thx a lot~
Amazing content as always! By far my fav UA-camr
A fantastic honest review. Full of useful information, be it autofocus or stability etc. Thanks so much.
this is my current dream camera for my budget
Brilliant where are you based
@@chillfuu9652 İstanbul
Great review Gerald. The most important thing on any camera is auto focus and here this is a deal breaker for me. This will affect low light performance more as well, which again is a real pain. Panasonic have the means to sort this so there's no excuse really.
Awesome video! (...and I'm not just saying that because I'm in it! 😄) I was shocked to learn that the S5 is smaller than the GH5!! I remember the GH5 feeling so small in my hands! All these small changes over the years are so gradual it's hard to notice unless you do a side-by-side comparison.
Very detailed and helpful, but I still can't decide between the $2,000 S5 or $4,000 S1H...Mehh money.....
S1 left the market.
Great video - but I feel like it's a bit unfair to label it primarily as "strange" in the title just because of how they didn't nerf its features much compared to the S1. That's a good thing, and should be encouraged - yet "strange" has a negative connotation.
If Panasonic ever get their AF system to mimic what Sony and Canon are doing and build a solid lens selection then they make take Nikon's market share. Great video 👌
Nail on the head there that buying the S1 new now does not make a lot of sense, could perhaps mean the S1 price is up for a heavy adjustment. Either way, early S1 adopters aren't going to be happy. Interesting times for Panasonic for sure. I've been a long time Panasonic shooter, however I feel that unless the GH6 is an astounding camera then perhaps it is time to start offloading my M43 native glass to clear the way for a full frame future. If I am to re-invest in a new system, it won't be to a mount with limited choice and/or astronomical prices, and especially when that system still has such compromised continuous AF for a player that is so strong on video in virtually every other aspect. Now that Sony seem to have their s**t together with codecs, rolling shutter and the like, I feel E-Mount on the A7s III makes the most sense from a capability perspective. Still, price is going to be an issue where, so we'll see...
I don't know about everyone else, but the S5 has everything I need to make what I want. Only downside is the autofocus being... Panasonic's autofocus. I'm saving up for it and should be able to get it at the end of the year, working two jobs has been hell but it's worth it. I don't care about autofocus much since I just connect through the app and focus manually anyway on my GX85.
Panasonic refusing to go with a better AF system is what will cause many to leave them, including myself. Stinks, because I love their cameras otherwise.
As an owner of the S1, I had hope that perhaps AF could be improved with updates, but if this is what they call state of the ART, then I’m officially done with Panasonic. I even invested in native glass.
@@dausherryanddhy9508 Body + Glass is a double blow. Too bad because Panasonic made great cameras my fav being the GH5 and of course there will never be a GH6.
Paul C I came from the GH4. Till this day, I still consider it revolutionary for its time. Was thinking about upgrading to the GH5, but I was so content with my GH4, that by the time I was ready to move on, they announced the S1, so I went with it instead. However, this time, competition is strong with Nikon and Canon getting in the game, pushing even Sony to step up. This competition may infact cause the GH6 to possibly never come. If the S5 releases at $2k, the GH6 would have to be around $1700 and even entry level full frame mirrorless can be found for that price. I just don’t see Panasonic lasting too long outside their hardcore user base.
Paul C Panasonic have not and will not abandon mft www.diyphotography.net/stay-tuned-says-panasonic-director-the-gh6-is-coming/
Paul C whoa whoa easy, gh6 is coming soon. Hybrid(gh6), new video oriented camera that will replace gh5s(gh6v), and the third will be for photography with 40mp or something.
idk why everyone complains about Panasonic AF so much, I’ve been using the gh line for years and it honestly rarely gives me problems...they still make the best value robust cameras anyone could ask for ESP for video
It's impossible to think that you don't talk through a teleprompter. Jesus Christ you don't miss a beep! 😳😳😳🤪🤪🤪 Best content as always
Dude, your audio is unreal. Please tell me what you are running. So buttery and consistent.
If I understood only 1/4 of what you know, I could make a good decision about which budget/prosumer video camera best fits my needs. I’m subscribing to your channel because it’s no-nonsense. Thanks!
I'm not sure if you are aware, when you record a static scene the battery run time is at it's best. When recording a consistently changing scene the camera does much more work encoding new images per frame and that is how you get a better estimate of battery run time. When you have the camera writing the same image over and over again, it doesn't get stressed as much.
AF isn't an issue for me so I was liking the spec of this camera as a FF upgrade to the GH5. Disappointing to hear the IBIS isn't as good though, plus the few other quirks like no all-intra and dropping to 8 bit on certain settings. Hmmm. I don't think I'm quite convinced but I keep the faith that Panasonic will pull something out the bag this year! Excellent review as ever though, really thorough. Thank you.
6:42 is this the first episode of VLOGS UNDONE!?!?!
Oh man I really hope they have a shutter angle firmware upgrade for the s1 as well. That would be amazing.
Great video, will you be testing the 6k raw and the other things added in the new update. To see how much better it is now... Keep up the great work...
I’m going to watch the DpReview video too, but this is really the only video I need to see about this camera.
thanks for the
video
I have set one button of my gh5 to af near and one to af far. If i want to focus something fast i push the button and it focuses immediately. This also works in video. Af issues fixed. No problems whatsoever
I have an S1 and love the weight as a quality feel, as 63 I love it and want a S1R x.