For working, when you work you often may lift your hands over your head, you need longer sleeves to stay covered. You may need something worn in that may make you look like you have lifted you hands over your head while working. Used to be all made in USA, now it is all in the name of fashion, costs more and quality has slipped. Stretch fabric on work pants? Hot sparks from power tools will melt the pants right off you! Need them a little larger, to layer a hoodie underneath for colder mornings, and allow for shrinking if you get the all cotton duck. Dickies had a good one out but with a thinner zipper, did not last as long as the oversized yKK
Thank you for talking about how just because a garment is made in a specific country doesn't makes it better or worse. I'm from Bangladesh, and we have some of the most talented craftsmen, weavers, embroidered and tailors. But the fashion world disregards that.
@Billy Bob Right??? But if it said Made In Mexico, people would label it as not being high quality. It's not about who made your clothes, it's about where it was made and the racial implications that people have in relation to that. If a tag says Made in America, or Italy, people assume it's being hand stitched by some white person in lab coats, and they're more inclined to spend more money on it. Even though the companies are outsourcing majority of the work to skilled immigrants that are okay with being paid less, because they wouldn't be able to sell these products themselves. Primarily because society would deem it of lower quality, since it wasn't made by a white person in a lab coat. Keeps propagating the cycle.
@Billy Bob then you have to redefine what high quality is. A lot of things that are deemed high quality doesn't last long , i.e intricate beading, certain types of leather. So what dictates quality? Market value of materials? But that's also subjectively constructed. Pearls for example are expensive in the US, but super cheap in Bangladesh. A lot of things that are deemed high quality are marketed as such, because theres no fixed definition of high quality.
me personally my garment could say 'made by a swarm of bees arranged in to the shape of a person' on the label and I wouldn't care at all. if it's well made i'm not givin the slightest fuck about what the label says. only clowns and lowkey racists be hung up on that shit
the one thing that drives me crazy about carhartt is that their shirt sizing is completely random depending on when, and where it was made, sometimes a small is a large, sometimes an xl is a fitted large its wild
I bought an arctic extreme jacket in medium and it’s perfect. Bought a poly cotton work jacket in medium and it fits like a large or extra large. Not worth sending it back from Europe to US but I never wear it.
Yes, exactly. I bought some used Carhartt jackets and sizing is just crazy. For example: two x' siberian parkas (both size S) - one of them has 53 cm from pit to pit, the second one has 57 cm and fits like at least one size bigger.
Carhartt wip is a lot like patagonia in the sense that they use sustainable and/or organic materials and treat their workers well as far as quality of life and reasonable pay or benefits. The wip product has a bit more tailored fit if youre wearing a size up or your actual size, however if you wear a size down in regular carhartt you could attain a similar sizing/tailored style. I like the idea of sustainabilty and quality but i also buy regular carhartt as well because i feel like wip is a bit over priced especially when it comes to shirts.
For the classic K87 Carhartt Workwear Pocket Tee, I recommend trying the "relaxed fit" sizing to get a more tailored fitting tee like you'd get from Carhartt WIP- at first I thought relaxed fit meant that it would be more roomy/loose fitting but it actually means the exact opposite. For me, I have no need to size down when going with the relaxed fit option.
@@MarsOneBeatz i typically wear an xl tshirt but carhartt i wear a large tall, it fits good but still a bit roomy. Im 6,2 200 pounds so im a little slender 👍 i like that carhartt offers the option of tall fits
The crazy thing is that in Europe the OG jacket is around 120$ and the WIP is 210$. In general, WIP is %20-30 more expensive in the States. That alone makes me think that the price gap is barely justified.
I had this same dilemma last winter. I was on the fence about both jackets, but ultimately went with the OG and went to get it tailored. I shortened and narrowed the sleeves. Narrowed the body. And, changed the breast zipper to gold to match the main zipper. All that cost me an extra $85 bringing my total to $170 CAD. It would’ve cost me $300+ CAD for the WIP version. I own 3 WIP Michigan jackets that I can justify due to the huge difference in fit and colour options in comparison to the OG model. But, I’m perfectly happy with the OG Detroit Duck tailored. That’s my 2 cents. Cool video. Thanks for posting.
Personally I liked the OG better on you but I feel you exactly on how if a piece isn’t perfect for me I’ll never wear it, which also my biggest issue with my wardrobe (finding pieces that fit me well)
appreciate the feedback I like hearing what style people are vibing with more - if I do stick with the OG I will probably size down to medium bc of the sleeves
Only Carhartt WIP is easily accessible in Europe, but original Carhartt clothes are pretty hard to find. They’re not supplying Europe with OG Carhartt and we “idealize” american workwear so they don’t bother putting the prices up
Very interesting video! I work for Carhartt WIP and I gotta say you nailed explaining the emphasis of the brand into the fullest details. It can indeed be very confusing for some when WIP has a lot of the same cuts as the workwear line with minor differences.
Hey Rejovich appreciate ur input ultimately I wanted to see if classic styles like the Detroit were basically remastered in some way. Feel free to let the WIP PR team know I'll be happy to join their "flow team" list and receive gifted pieces 😤
I honestly liked how the OG one fits you more! And I appreciate your point at the end about spending more for minute details. I think if you genuinely love a piece of clothing and can see yourself wearing it time and time again, you can justify paying for it.
I too wanted to know the difference between the two. I ended up purchasing something simple such as the Acrylic Watch Hat from each of the company in the same color. I can say there is a big difference in quality. The Carhartt WIP is by far a much better product and you can tell the attention detail. I then went on to purchase some T-shirt’s from WIP and omg they are truly nice in fit. I ended up giving all my other T-shirt’s from Carhartt to goodwill. CARHARTT WIP 👍👍
WIP and there clothing the materials are smooth and always feel good, clothes cut better and I buy all my WIP on their sales. T-shirts are amazing but you have to look at sizing as there smaller than the Original Carhart.
I love the og style, i bought one for under $40 a few yrs ago and have used it up and down in snow, rain and mud and all kinds of good sht. The best part about it is i never have to worry about getting it damaged or dirty the same way i would if i would've spent $260 on it just for the fancy zipper. Very nice comparison by the way, ive never really been interested in WIP and this video summarizes it why. Im not one to over spend for the sake of "fashion", not to say that i dont have me a fancy suit for a rare occasion, but thats just me.
Exchange with size down OG-Hamilton brown (inspired by Interstellar movie)-Thats Classic! I have both OG brown and just bought another in Navy. I prefer workwear as it is more robust and boxier. Good for layering like a hoodie..IMO.
carhartt wip from 2010 to 2015 were definitely best times for me. they have like really good balance between workwear and street wear plus the brand line like carhartt heritage. Now it turns out to a trendy street brand where I don’t really buy it now
If you’re used to Carhartt WIP and want to buy a Carhartt jacket but worry about it being boxy, you should take a size smaller from the size you usually buy at Carhartt WIP.
These age beautifully over time, I would highly recommend that if you’re in the market for a Detroit Jacket then you should hunt for a vintage one as opposed to a newer model.
As an American I only buy WIP from European sites. The prices are usually $50-$100 cheaper so I don’t mind the slight price increase for the better fit and I live down the street from a classic Carhartt retailer. I just picked up a Detroit jacket from the Wacko Maria collab and that’s another way WIP sets itself apart from classic Carhartt, the out of the ordinary prints and materials on classic silhouettes. It’s worth mentioning that the Wacko Maria Detroit jacket retailed for $500 in the states and I ordered from Slam Jam in Italy and then paid $300.
not true, atleast not the leasing part. They might've became their own company but they were still created by Carhartt so why would they need to lease the right?
ur welcome CC, Ultimately WIP isn't too too expensive and the quality seems pretty good so if you see a WIP piece you like it might be worth it even if its more than the main brand version
It looks like the WIP has a different Pattern aswell. Really good to see on the seams on the sleeves. The WIP is aswell more “tailored” then the og one. It fits better around a body in my eyes. And i think the WIP fits better on you aswell.
ur right to look at those points Christoph like the shoulders, sleeves, etc truly I think OG in medium would be a better overall fit for me but the two jackets are for sure two different patterns
I love carhartt and have worn their stuff since the 90s when I was into bmx. Their work wear outlasted everything else for skating and riding. Their old triple stitched jeans lasted decades. Sadly, carhartt wip nowadays is just taking the biscuit. Slapping a carhartt sticker on a yoga matt and charging £25 🤦♂️
Let me comment from experience that the Detroit isn't a winter jacket, unless you live in the southern states somewhere. It's a spring/fall jacket. If you want a real winter jacket, go with the Carhartt active duck, flannel lined. They're $110. Great jackets.
very nice video dude! At first, I was surprised with the price of the WIP but after you tried it on and went through the details, I think it's worth it. Like you said, carhartt garms are made to last, so I think it's worth it to keep the more expensive one that fits you better and you'll probably wear more. rather than keeping the cheaper one (that's still good quality) but not wearing it as much due to the cut/details.
Yeah ultimately if I have a piece in my wardrobe thats just A LITTEL off, I might not wear it as much bc its not exactly what I'm looking for, doesnt matter how much of a deal it is when it comes to aesthetics.
Carhartt WIP, was made for basement bratts. For us trades guys $260 for a Carhartt that's going to repel rain, snow, wind while on a lift 25-40' up, yup, spend that everyday. The "Boxie Fell"...lmao, did you get a pedi coupon with your new WIP, because you bruised your dish pan hands. This sounds like a guy who owns a Son's of Anarchy Pleather Vest. Bottom the $260 "Boxie" jacket goes great with our $250 Red Wing Boots....all about 🇺🇲 Having the Right Tools for the Job 🇺🇲, yes I can and do write off my "Boxie" Carhartt and my boots....lol...where whatever makes you feel good....thanks for your breakdown
Great video. I think the WIP version looks better on you. The fit, and the double zip are plus points. The price increase is a robbery though. The thing is when i bought this jacket myself I knew I could wear it 20 years later, so IMO the 250 price tag is still worth it.
SIKE SAME JACKET FOOLED YOU - yeah It's kind of a tough pill to swallow considering its like 2.8x more than the OG Detroit jacket bur at the end of the day $250 isn't crazy for outwear, other streetwear brands (supreme palace) typically price like that but if nothing else the WIP Detroit jacket does feel like it will hold up
As my wardrobe is basically fully carhartt wip and I collect carhartt I can tell you a cuppa things. In Europe carhartt wip yes is more expensive than the standard line however carhartt wip and carhartt are two entities. Carhartt wip came about from the cuts of carhartt which the French loved and the quality. It's roots in skateboarding and has always had a somewhat decent price point. For the quality to price it's great and especially with the amount of outlets they have you can get it for a decent price. Their collections have creative designers and is focussed more on the fashion side of things (hence the tax). However I will say one thing. If you're going to get a Detroit jacket, eBay has so many places because you're better off just getting a carhartt jacket. But the other pieces like the colewood jacket and other things implement more technical fabrics. It's cheaper in Europe
@@calholli yea for everyone because it’s a much nicer construction. Clothes that look tailored will always look better. The og jacket has baggy sleeves for no reason.
For the iconic pieces just go for the OG IMO. But for me I like WIP’s cut styles for pants vs OG. Example: abbot pants. Ran me like $140 USD but I’m not going to find that kind of look & fit with the original brand. Quality is good regardless in my experience.
To be honest, I feel like the main thing that makes Carhartt WIP better forsure is that some of their products look closer to the original. New Detroit jackets don't even have snaps on the lower back! The WIP jacket is actually somehow closer to the quality of the vintage ones. Even down to the zipper on the front pocket...
I was set on getting a Dickies Duck jacket in XL then it was all sold out and discontinued online till I bought a Carhartt Pre washed Duck Detroit jacket in XL it was a much better choice in looks and fit quality $85 w//free shipping
How come your measurements don't stack up with whats on their website. You say the Large is a 49" chest but when you look up the website 44-47" for a 2XL. Not sure if it runs larger than what the website says.
This is such a great breakdown. Love your channel. I just got the $90 version of the Detroit. Something I’m noticing with where the collar joins above the zipper is the left side seems to be about 1/4 inch higher, could this be a common thing with the $90 or was I just unlucky?
finally somebody answered it am i right? Hope the video wasnt too slow or boring sometimes I'm like "well I find this interesting but is this a boring topic?" The world may never know.
No knock against the video, but I dont think you went into enough details in the differences in the two. You stayed your personal opinion. I'd like to see the inside of both side by side, the zippers, the stitching etc side by side to help myself make the comparison and my own opinion. I own tons of carhartt, including 3 Detroit's. I dont any of the wip stuff. I agree with you the wip stuff is more fashionable. But as a contractor I look for function over style. Thanks for reading this. And thank you for the video!!
appreciate the feedback, Maybe I should have gone into more detail on the exact construction details but I'd probably have to cut some other parts of this vid as its already kind of long.
I didn't know carhartt made wip. I thought a different companies like A.P.C., NEIGHBORHOOD, PATTA, VANS, JUNYA WANTANABE, and others purchased licensing to reproduce existing garments to the wip line. Slightly trimmer more European. Working men need the extra room for motion and not get pinched up. Perhaps carhartt works with those brands in-house vs selling licensing? Official statements i have seen in past hadn't made it crystal clear.. thanks for shedding more light on the topic.. Great video.
this video was really helpful, and your content is very accurate and also specific. Could you specify wich mesurments do you have please? I'm 1.79 m long na di took a Size medium aiming for a tailored look. I'd Like to hear from you about you experiense with the size large and if you tried other sizes . Thanks
I have a Detroit in black with the itchy striped lining and the higher pocket but not as high as yours but higher than the longer version i have it is made in Mexico and I live in the UK.. My longer Detroit which also has an itchy striped lining is also made in Mexico but has a lower pocket. I never actually thought about any of this stuff before this vid they are nice jackets not as baggy looking on the waist as yours seem to be and great pieces of work wear which is what they are for here in the uK with its horribly wet winters. My shorter jacket has enlarged tops to the sleeves so if in the future if I have Arnie arms there will be room..
WELL if you can buy it for cheap and sell it for more then I can't hate the "grind" - is it worth picking up an old Detroit jacket for more than retail, well maybe if you really want a faded look. I always have my eyes peeled at thrift stores for older carhartt pieces but I guess unsurprisingly they're getting picked over more RN
Hi! Nice video. I'm researching the WIP jacket, and I'm not finding a lot of reviews on it. I'm curious to know if you kept it and, if so, how you like it now. Thanks!
Hey! Thanks so much for the video! I'm trying to decide between these two, and I'm typically a true medium. If I do the OG version, would you recommend sizing down for a more tailored fit? Trying to figure out if I should shell out the extra cash to get the fit right with the WIP version
Hey Sap - yeah going true to size will give you a less oversized fit to say the least...but if you want that more tailored, cut closer to the body look, the WIP version might be the right option even with the price tag
@@BraveNewWear Thanks for letting me know! Really appreciate the info. Think It's worth the extra money then imo since I definitely want the fit right. Awesome video man, thanks again!
considering that fashion is already unsustainable as it is, i dont think anyone that likes fashion to really cares enough about the environment to stop buying new clothes.
@@Nhxn_ yeah no you're wrong in that. You can be into fashion and consume it in a sustainable way. Not buying as much, and buying better quality so the clothes last me longer is what I do for example. I try to buy everything I want or need second hand too.
@@jdilla930 Hence why i said "new" clothes. If you're only buying new clothes, then the environment isn't as big of a priority for you. New clothes will always have a carbon footprint.
What I've learned throughout all of my fashion purchases is that I buy what I like and what I think looks good on me regardless of the price. But usually, the more expensive garments are what I like better and what I think look better on me. I'd rather spend $90 on a single t-shirt that I love and wear all of the time versus buying 3 t-shirts that I found on sale @ $40 a piece that just end up collecting dust in my closet. And really, I save money in the long run with that method. I also like hunting for great "like new" deals on higher end brands from resale apps/sites like Grailed, Depop, & The Real Real.
So what you are saying is a 79.99 Carhartt vest at tractor supply is ok for a vest? I picked one up yesterday and really like it. You do notice the differences. A good one will last. I have a 80s coat that is just now starting to feel a little broke in. Those things are beasts. I liked you review and you just earned a new subscriber. Good job!
Thanks for sharing this video with us. I agree with you, i would spend that extra bit of €€€ just to get that “a little bit” better to enjoy that specific garment more maybe that’s just me cause i’m a sucker for small details, maybe someone else would just get the og and be happy with that. Beside that i love that cropped t shirt you are wearing, it has a fantastic collar neck aswell, can we have the id of it please? Thanks Christian. EDIT: ok i just found out your video about that t shirt. sadly sold out. Any good recommendations/ alternative to that? im a sucker for details, i aint gonna find something that good with that good tight and big collar neck
Hey Kian yeah I feel similarly, If you care about fashion the small tiny details can make a big difference and ultimately it might be better to splurge. In terms of a Uniqlo U replacement...hard to say, I've been looking but this la Apparel top (more of a sweatshirt) does have a similar fit losangelesapparel.net/collections/men-tops/products/hf14gd-heavy-fleece-tee?variant=15935481086063
What are your thoughts on the dropped hem? Does that make it look too much workwear for work than workwear for streetwear? I cant find any good pics or videos to make up my mind. Like your videos.
thats interesting I wonder when they produced those jackets - TBH the two way zipper does have a practical application making it easier to move in or when seated and driving / using machinery etc
Thanks for the breakdown. I thought he materials would be completely different but I guess all the little differences add up. Do they add up to the difference in price? I'd have to try on both to know for myself.
People are upset because you like the more expensive jacket lol I can agree though if you care about how you look and the fit of your clothes you should buy what fits you better its simple lol
lol yeah I mean, I wanted to see if there would be a reason why I would pick the 2x more expensive jacket and really my thoughts are if it makes you feel better / cooler / whatever and the other 1 just...doesnt quite do it, than you might as well go for the pricier piece
the ultimate HEAD TO HEAD BATTLE. Maybe, they're pretty similar tho, no shade at Dickies, I typically think of Dickies products as a cheaper alternative to Carhartt.
hangs $90 jacket on the wall
throws $260 jacket on the floor
the more expensive the garment is the more I treat it like trash if I had a Riot Bomber I'd be stomping on it during the entire video
@@BraveNewWear why?
@jake walkes LOL but still buys it, foh with your pointless shit
@@BraveNewWear drake jacket fortnight
@jake walkes cringe
Carthartt for your grandpa who drinks Black coffe.
Carthartt WIP for your grandson who lives un NY and drinks overpriced latte.
🤣🤣🤣
This is boomer af
@@jerms6642 in this case the boomer is right
Buy vintage carhartt anywat
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@@chriscorvin5077 you know someone is a boomer when they think calling someone a boomer is about age and not state of mind.
"the sleeves were a little too long for me"
- man wearing a 3XL t-shirt
For working, when you work you often may lift your hands over your head, you need longer sleeves to stay covered. You may need something worn in that may make you look like you have lifted you hands over your head while working. Used to be all made in USA, now it is all in the name of fashion, costs more and quality has slipped. Stretch fabric on work pants? Hot sparks from power tools will melt the pants right off you! Need them a little larger, to layer a hoodie underneath for colder mornings, and allow for shrinking if you get the all cotton duck. Dickies had a good one out but with a thinner zipper, did not last as long as the oversized yKK
Thank you for talking about how just because a garment is made in a specific country doesn't makes it better or worse. I'm from Bangladesh, and we have some of the most talented craftsmen, weavers, embroidered and tailors. But the fashion world disregards that.
@Billy Bob Right??? But if it said Made In Mexico, people would label it as not being high quality. It's not about who made your clothes, it's about where it was made and the racial implications that people have in relation to that. If a tag says Made in America, or Italy, people assume it's being hand stitched by some white person in lab coats, and they're more inclined to spend more money on it. Even though the companies are outsourcing majority of the work to skilled immigrants that are okay with being paid less, because they wouldn't be able to sell these products themselves. Primarily because society would deem it of lower quality, since it wasn't made by a white person in a lab coat. Keeps propagating the cycle.
@Billy Bob then you have to redefine what high quality is. A lot of things that are deemed high quality doesn't last long , i.e intricate beading, certain types of leather. So what dictates quality? Market value of materials? But that's also subjectively constructed. Pearls for example are expensive in the US, but super cheap in Bangladesh. A lot of things that are deemed high quality are marketed as such, because theres no fixed definition of high quality.
me personally my garment could say 'made by a swarm of bees arranged in to the shape of a person' on the label and I wouldn't care at all. if it's well made i'm not givin the slightest fuck about what the label says. only clowns and lowkey racists be hung up on that shit
@@Kylirr mate id pay more for a bee swarm mech to make me a jacket honestly
You're right in the past the best fabrics came from that part of the world when the western world couldn't achieve the same quality
I literally pause the video whenever you use sound effects cause I'm like "what tab is that coming from?" 😂
if i hadn't seen your comment i think i would have gone crazy
Same 🤣
Bro foreal they just random asf too like if he fuckd up editing it
Type shit
the one thing that drives me crazy about carhartt is that their shirt sizing is completely random depending on when, and where it was made, sometimes a small is a large, sometimes an xl is a fitted large its wild
jup...thats very true
I bought an arctic extreme jacket in medium and it’s perfect. Bought a poly cotton work jacket in medium and it fits like a large or extra large. Not worth sending it back from Europe to US but I never wear it.
Very true
Yes, exactly. I bought some used Carhartt jackets and sizing is just crazy. For example: two x' siberian parkas (both size S) - one of them has 53 cm from pit to pit, the second one has 57 cm and fits like at least one size bigger.
@@anavrin4818 pure chaos innit bruv
Carhartt wip is a lot like patagonia in the sense that they use sustainable and/or organic materials and treat their workers well as far as quality of life and reasonable pay or benefits. The wip product has a bit more tailored fit if youre wearing a size up or your actual size, however if you wear a size down in regular carhartt you could attain a similar sizing/tailored style. I like the idea of sustainabilty and quality but i also buy regular carhartt as well because i feel like wip is a bit over priced especially when it comes to shirts.
For the classic K87 Carhartt Workwear Pocket Tee, I recommend trying the "relaxed fit" sizing to get a more tailored fitting tee like you'd get from Carhartt WIP- at first I thought relaxed fit meant that it would be more roomy/loose fitting but it actually means the exact opposite. For me, I have no need to size down when going with the relaxed fit option.
@@MarsOneBeatz i typically wear an xl tshirt but carhartt i wear a large tall, it fits good but still a bit roomy. Im 6,2 200 pounds so im a little slender 👍 i like that carhartt offers the option of tall fits
So I’m medium on regular carhartt should I buy medium in carhartt wip ?
is this just a video essay of someone try to justify spending $260 on a carhartt jacket
Hell I'll spend $300 on a Carhartt but it's gonna be the Yukon parka and I'm going to get my money's worth in tech and features.
You sound so sour and broke
Thx for saving me
I got one for 130
He talks too much. The video can be 5 minutes long max
The crazy thing is that in Europe the OG jacket is around 120$ and the WIP is 210$. In general, WIP is %20-30 more expensive in the States. That alone makes me think that the price gap is barely justified.
Just bought the WIP in Europe for only 155$ on sale at the official site 😀
WIP is based in Europe so Americans will have to pay import fees and the likr
i got my wip og detroit for £175 but it was sale from £205. wish i got a large though 🤦🏾♂️
I had this same dilemma last winter. I was on the fence about both jackets, but ultimately went with the OG and went to get it tailored. I shortened and narrowed the sleeves. Narrowed the body. And, changed the breast zipper to gold to match the main zipper. All that cost me an extra $85 bringing my total to $170 CAD. It would’ve cost me $300+ CAD for the WIP version. I own 3 WIP Michigan jackets that I can justify due to the huge difference in fit and colour options in comparison to the OG model. But, I’m perfectly happy with the OG Detroit Duck tailored. That’s my 2 cents. Cool video. Thanks for posting.
Did you get the OG version with the back tail? What size did you get and what Is your height pls? Thank you
@@Itspako8 I didn't get the OG version with the back tail. Just the standard model. I got it in a large and I'm 5'9.
Personally I liked the OG better on you but I feel you exactly on how if a piece isn’t perfect for me I’ll never wear it, which also my biggest issue with my wardrobe (finding pieces that fit me well)
appreciate the feedback I like hearing what style people are vibing with more - if I do stick with the OG I will probably size down to medium bc of the sleeves
Always pick fit over brand, golden rule no.1 if you want to actually look good in your clothes.
Damn, you taught this old man something! Huge Carhartt fan. Just noticed that is a Carhartt pocket tee in my profile picture!
Only Carhartt WIP is easily accessible in Europe, but original Carhartt clothes are pretty hard to find. They’re not supplying Europe with OG Carhartt and we “idealize” american workwear so they don’t bother putting the prices up
Order from America
www.carhartt.com/gb/en-gb
www.carhartt.com/eu/en-eu
I am from Europe and I just bought the same wip one like his for only 125€ on SALE at the official website 🙃
I'm the real Luffy
Very interesting video! I work for Carhartt WIP and I gotta say you nailed explaining the emphasis of the brand into the fullest details. It can indeed be very confusing for some when WIP has a lot of the same cuts as the workwear line with minor differences.
Hey Rejovich appreciate ur input ultimately I wanted to see if classic styles like the Detroit were basically remastered in some way. Feel free to let the WIP PR team know I'll be happy to join their "flow team" list and receive gifted pieces 😤
But in price $$$
By far the best breakdown of the difference between these two. I've been reading threads and whatnot but you knocked it out of the park. Thanks.
my pleasure Pablo, felt like no one else was answering this
I honestly liked how the OG one fits you more! And I appreciate your point at the end about spending more for minute details. I think if you genuinely love a piece of clothing and can see yourself wearing it time and time again, you can justify paying for it.
idk why but you kind of sound like reportoftheweek lmfaoooo
Bruh I was just thinking the same lool
thought it was just me lmao. man is the reviewbrah of the fashion world
I too wanted to know the difference between the two. I ended up purchasing something simple such as the Acrylic Watch Hat from each of the company in the same color. I can say there is a big difference in quality. The Carhartt WIP is by far a much better product and you can tell the attention detail. I then went on to purchase some T-shirt’s from WIP and omg they are truly nice in fit. I ended up giving all my other T-shirt’s from Carhartt to goodwill. CARHARTT WIP 👍👍
WIP and there clothing the materials are smooth and always feel good, clothes cut better and I buy all my WIP on their sales. T-shirts are amazing but you have to look at sizing as there smaller than the Original Carhart.
this is a video I've needed for years
sorry it took me years to make it Scorcho better late than never
I love the og style, i bought one for under $40 a few yrs ago and have used it up and down in snow, rain and mud and all kinds of good sht. The best part about it is i never have to worry about getting it damaged or dirty the same way i would if i would've spent $260 on it just for the fancy zipper. Very nice comparison by the way, ive never really been interested in WIP and this video summarizes it why. Im not one to over spend for the sake of "fashion", not to say that i dont have me a fancy suit for a rare occasion, but thats just me.
You're not alone
Exchange with size down OG-Hamilton brown (inspired by Interstellar movie)-Thats Classic! I have both OG brown and just bought another in Navy. I prefer workwear as it is more robust and boxier. Good for layering like a hoodie..IMO.
carhartt wip from 2010 to 2015 were definitely best times for me. they have like really good balance between workwear and street wear plus the brand line like carhartt heritage. Now it turns out to a trendy street brand where I don’t really buy it now
thats fair Yizhi I do see some more "trendier" pieces now and its possibly a result of Faeh spending more time / energy on OAMC now
Another option would be to compare a large WIP vs medium OG jacket. Maybe the cuts are closer and you save $$$
If you’re used to Carhartt WIP and want to buy a Carhartt jacket but worry about it being boxy, you should take a size smaller from the size you usually buy at Carhartt WIP.
These age beautifully over time, I would highly recommend that if you’re in the market for a Detroit Jacket then you should hunt for a vintage one as opposed to a newer model.
yeah for sure I've seen the vintage pieces and they do look pretty nice with wear
What you say at around 14 minutes really inspired me.
As an American I only buy WIP from European sites. The prices are usually $50-$100 cheaper so I don’t mind the slight price increase for the better fit and I live down the street from a classic Carhartt retailer. I just picked up a Detroit jacket from the Wacko Maria collab and that’s another way WIP sets itself apart from classic Carhartt, the out of the ordinary prints and materials on classic silhouettes. It’s worth mentioning that the Wacko Maria Detroit jacket retailed for $500 in the states and I ordered from Slam Jam in Italy and then paid $300.
ooooooooooooooh! thats an interesting hack Garrette I need to try slam jam or even maybe jump on VPN and see if that gives me more favorable prices
Been 2 months out now, how are you still liking the WIP detroit jacket? Do you still prefer the black or did you ever pick up the brown?
Carhartt WIP is actually not part of the Carhart company. It is its own company and they lease the right to use the Carhartt name.
not true, atleast not the leasing part. They might've became their own company but they were still created by Carhartt so why would they need to lease the right?
@@stuckonwock for tax purposes maybe
Here in Europe the tough blue collar OG Carhartt Detroit Jacket is cheaper than the hipster WIP Detroit Jacket. OG all the way!!!
Thanks for the comparison, I've always been sceptical/hesitant when it comes to the WIP line
ur welcome CC, Ultimately WIP isn't too too expensive and the quality seems pretty good so if you see a WIP piece you like it might be worth it even if its more than the main brand version
I think the more boxier fit and the lower pocket on the OG looks wayyy better
thats fair I do almost always go for boxier. If I stick with the OG i'll probably size down to medium just BC the sleeves are a little too long
This is the best comparison I've seen between Carhartt vs Carhartt WIP, which is what I've been looking for. Solid vid!
Garment that has a tailored fit always looks and feels better. I love Carhartt zippers. Great review 💪🏻
i love the unhinged audio edits shit has me
I want people to wonder if I accidently left audio clips in to keep them on their toes
@@BraveNewWear BNW accelerationism 5 videos at the same time when
love this vid! crazy how we both came out with a carhartt video, you definitely have the better breakdown and research!
great minds think alike dude, in terms of the breakdown I liked your video a lot, it had practical value and mine was really just kind of a discussion
This is literally what I needed THANK YOU
my pleasure guy
I just bought the same WIP one like you in Europe for only 125€ (=154$) on sale at the official website 😊
That WIP version looks sleeker than the OG
It looks like the WIP has a different Pattern aswell. Really good to see on the seams on the sleeves. The WIP is aswell more “tailored” then the og one. It fits better around a body in my eyes.
And i think the WIP fits better on you aswell.
Shoulders aswell
ur right to look at those points Christoph like the shoulders, sleeves, etc truly I think OG in medium would be a better overall fit for me but the two jackets are for sure two different patterns
I got a wip Detroit jacket on sale for $138 a couple years ago and I love it and wear it all the time. It’s broken in very nicely too
WIP looks way better fit wise. And details do matter
for nearly triple the cost--- ummm.. No
@@calholli lol ok
Check out the full swing version of the jacket looks very fashionable but it’s a good work jacket
I love carhartt and have worn their stuff since the 90s when I was into bmx. Their work wear outlasted everything else for skating and riding. Their old triple stitched jeans lasted decades. Sadly, carhartt wip nowadays is just taking the biscuit. Slapping a carhartt sticker on a yoga matt and charging £25 🤦♂️
Let me comment from experience that the Detroit isn't a winter jacket, unless you live in the southern states somewhere. It's a spring/fall jacket. If you want a real winter jacket, go with the Carhartt active duck, flannel lined. They're $110. Great jackets.
very nice video dude!
At first, I was surprised with the price of the WIP but after you tried it on and went through the details, I think it's worth it. Like you said, carhartt garms are made to last, so I think it's worth it to keep the more expensive one that fits you better and you'll probably wear more. rather than keeping the cheaper one (that's still good quality) but not wearing it as much due to the cut/details.
Yeah ultimately if I have a piece in my wardrobe thats just A LITTEL off, I might not wear it as much bc its not exactly what I'm looking for, doesnt matter how much of a deal it is when it comes to aesthetics.
Carhartt WIP, was made for basement bratts. For us trades guys $260 for a Carhartt that's going to repel rain, snow, wind while on a lift 25-40' up, yup, spend that everyday. The "Boxie Fell"...lmao, did you get a pedi coupon with your new WIP, because you bruised your dish pan hands. This sounds like a guy who owns a Son's of Anarchy Pleather Vest. Bottom the $260 "Boxie" jacket goes great with our $250 Red Wing Boots....all about 🇺🇲 Having the Right Tools for the Job 🇺🇲, yes I can and do write off my "Boxie" Carhartt and my boots....lol...where whatever makes you feel good....thanks for your breakdown
If it turns out they're the same I will be kind of disappointed.
Great video. I think the WIP version looks better on you. The fit, and the double zip are plus points. The price increase is a robbery though. The thing is when i bought this jacket myself I knew I could wear it 20 years later, so IMO the 250 price tag is still worth it.
SIKE SAME JACKET FOOLED YOU - yeah It's kind of a tough pill to swallow considering its like 2.8x more than the OG Detroit jacket bur at the end of the day $250 isn't crazy for outwear, other streetwear brands (supreme palace) typically price like that but if nothing else the WIP Detroit jacket does feel like it will hold up
As my wardrobe is basically fully carhartt wip and I collect carhartt I can tell you a cuppa things. In Europe carhartt wip yes is more expensive than the standard line however carhartt wip and carhartt are two entities. Carhartt wip came about from the cuts of carhartt which the French loved and the quality. It's roots in skateboarding and has always had a somewhat decent price point. For the quality to price it's great and especially with the amount of outlets they have you can get it for a decent price. Their collections have creative designers and is focussed more on the fashion side of things (hence the tax). However I will say one thing. If you're going to get a Detroit jacket, eBay has so many places because you're better off just getting a carhartt jacket. But the other pieces like the colewood jacket and other things implement more technical fabrics. It's cheaper in Europe
It depends on your purpose. If you working and don’t care about looks get the standard. If you want a more tailored fit get the WIP version.
Both I think look good on you. They don't look that warm for a very cold day. Just saying
THANK YOU ANGELA i'll keep that in mind make sure I wear my hat and mittens on a cold day so I dont get sick
Can you please make a follow up video explains the difference between Carhartt WIP Ruck Double Knee Pants vs Carhartt Double Front Dungarees.
Thanks!
that's an interesting 1, a lot like the Detroit Jacket I'll keep that in the possibilities folder
100% correct, a much nicer fit with the WIP jacket.
Everyone has different body shapes-- so this is just not correct.... not for everyone.
@@calholli yea for everyone because it’s a much nicer construction. Clothes that look tailored will always look better. The og jacket has baggy sleeves for no reason.
For the iconic pieces just go for the OG IMO. But for me I like WIP’s cut styles for pants vs OG. Example: abbot pants. Ran me like $140 USD but I’m not going to find that kind of look & fit with the original brand. Quality is good regardless in my experience.
This was an excellent breakdown, subbed
thank u V! Glad u found the channel
To be honest, I feel like the main thing that makes Carhartt WIP better forsure is that some of their products look closer to the original. New Detroit jackets don't even have snaps on the lower back! The WIP jacket is actually somehow closer to the quality of the vintage ones. Even down to the zipper on the front pocket...
I was set on getting a Dickies Duck jacket in XL then it was all sold out and discontinued online till I bought a Carhartt Pre washed Duck Detroit jacket in XL it was a much better choice in looks and fit quality $85 w//free shipping
How come your measurements don't stack up with whats on their website. You say the Large is a 49" chest but when you look up the website 44-47" for a 2XL. Not sure if it runs larger than what the website says.
I think that I love this video with my whole heart
This is such a great breakdown. Love your channel. I just got the $90 version of the Detroit. Something I’m noticing with where the collar joins above the zipper is the left side seems to be about 1/4 inch higher, could this be a common thing with the $90 or was I just unlucky?
did you buy it in the new version with the long back?
Great breakdown of the details I’ve been wondering the difference between the two
finally somebody answered it am i right? Hope the video wasnt too slow or boring sometimes I'm like "well I find this interesting but is this a boring topic?" The world may never know.
No knock against the video, but I dont think you went into enough details in the differences in the two. You stayed your personal opinion. I'd like to see the inside of both side by side, the zippers, the stitching etc side by side to help myself make the comparison and my own opinion. I own tons of carhartt, including 3 Detroit's. I dont any of the wip stuff. I agree with you the wip stuff is more fashionable. But as a contractor I look for function over style. Thanks for reading this. And thank you for the video!!
appreciate the feedback, Maybe I should have gone into more detail on the exact construction details but I'd probably have to cut some other parts of this vid as its already kind of long.
I live in spain and I just got a carhartt wip jacket for 140€ and all the vintage carhartt jackets that I could find were over 160€
German here. I bought the OG jacket for round about 100 Euro in a American style work wear store.
But on the websites wip is much easier available.
I didn't know carhartt made wip. I thought a different companies like A.P.C., NEIGHBORHOOD, PATTA, VANS, JUNYA WANTANABE, and others purchased licensing to reproduce existing garments to the wip line. Slightly trimmer more European. Working men need the extra room for motion and not get pinched up. Perhaps carhartt works with those brands in-house vs selling licensing? Official statements i have seen in past hadn't made it crystal clear.. thanks for shedding more light on the topic.. Great video.
I just bought a used Carhartt Detroit jacket on eBay. Made in USA from the 90s. I rather have that for 150 bucks.
The WIP version is a little less boxy and the build quality is made more like OG Detroit Duck Made in USA version (J209-DNY).
this video was really helpful, and your content is very accurate and also specific.
Could you specify wich mesurments do you have please?
I'm 1.79 m long na di took a Size medium aiming for a tailored look. I'd Like to hear from you about you experiense with the size large and if you tried other sizes . Thanks
I have a Detroit in black with the itchy striped lining and the higher pocket but not as high as yours but higher than the longer version i have it is made in Mexico and I live in the UK.. My longer Detroit which also has an itchy striped lining is also made in Mexico but has a lower pocket. I never actually thought about any of this stuff before this vid they are nice jackets not as baggy looking on the waist as yours seem to be and great pieces of work wear which is what they are for here in the uK with its horribly wet winters. My shorter jacket has enlarged tops to the sleeves so if in the future if I have Arnie arms there will be room..
I tried buying the 90 dollar jacket in the charhartt website (size small) and there out of stock everywhere
:/ dang even in the links I provided? I might need to update them
excellent vid christian. wondering what your thoughts are on the upselling of vintage carhartt as of late
WELL if you can buy it for cheap and sell it for more then I can't hate the "grind" - is it worth picking up an old Detroit jacket for more than retail, well maybe if you really want a faded look. I always have my eyes peeled at thrift stores for older carhartt pieces but I guess unsurprisingly they're getting picked over more RN
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The black grey charcoal tee though where did you get that my friend ? Loving that tee
Hi! Nice video. I'm researching the WIP jacket, and I'm not finding a lot of reviews on it. I'm curious to know if you kept it and, if so, how you like it now. Thanks!
Hey! Thanks so much for the video! I'm trying to decide between these two, and I'm typically a true medium. If I do the OG version, would you recommend sizing down for a more tailored fit? Trying to figure out if I should shell out the extra cash to get the fit right with the WIP version
Hey Sap - yeah going true to size will give you a less oversized fit to say the least...but if you want that more tailored, cut closer to the body look, the WIP version might be the right option even with the price tag
@@BraveNewWear Thanks for letting me know! Really appreciate the info. Think It's worth the extra money then imo since I definitely want the fit right. Awesome video man, thanks again!
Lmao nobody buying the wip version for the planet lmao
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considering that fashion is already unsustainable as it is, i dont think anyone that likes fashion to really cares enough about the environment to stop buying new clothes.
Regular Carhartt could last a decade.
@@Nhxn_ yeah no you're wrong in that. You can be into fashion and consume it in a sustainable way. Not buying as much, and buying better quality so the clothes last me longer is what I do for example. I try to buy everything I want or need second hand too.
@@jdilla930 Hence why i said "new" clothes. If you're only buying new clothes, then the environment isn't as big of a priority for you. New clothes will always have a carbon footprint.
This video did numbers 👌
Now I just need to figure out how to do the same thing 8 times a month
I was between these two, but I’m going with the OG now because th WIP is priced at $340. Too much price for not enough difference in my opinion
Carhartt WIP has been taxing the hipster crowd since 1989 😂🤷🏻♂️
Thank you for the nice comparison! How tall are you? I was trying to understand which would be the right size for me on the classic (non WIP) jacket
I love the part where he just throws the much more expensive jacket on the floor like its garbage
its just a trash $300 jacket i dont even care
@@BraveNewWear im from NYC we love carhart send to me ☺️😁
How tall are you? Trying to figure out my size
What I've learned throughout all of my fashion purchases is that I buy what I like and what I think looks good on me regardless of the price. But usually, the more expensive garments are what I like better and what I think look better on me. I'd rather spend $90 on a single t-shirt that I love and wear all of the time versus buying 3 t-shirts that I found on sale @ $40 a piece that just end up collecting dust in my closet. And really, I save money in the long run with that method. I also like hunting for great "like new" deals on higher end brands from resale apps/sites like Grailed, Depop, & The Real Real.
So what you are saying is a 79.99 Carhartt vest at tractor supply is ok for a vest? I picked one up yesterday and really like it. You do notice the differences. A good one will last. I have a 80s coat that is just now starting to feel a little broke in. Those things are beasts.
I liked you review and you just earned a new subscriber. Good job!
Great video. Subscribed. Keep up the good content.
love to hear that Mark glad u found the vid
What brand is that black shirt? Reminds me of Kapital fits. Thx in advance
Uniqlo
Thanks for sharing this video with us. I agree with you, i would spend that extra bit of €€€ just to get that “a little bit” better to enjoy that specific garment more maybe that’s just me cause i’m a sucker for small details, maybe someone else would just get the og and be happy with that. Beside that i love that cropped t shirt you are wearing, it has a fantastic collar neck aswell, can we have the id of it please? Thanks Christian. EDIT: ok i just found out your video about that t shirt. sadly sold out. Any good recommendations/ alternative to that? im a sucker for details, i aint gonna find something that good with that good tight and big collar neck
Hey Kian yeah I feel similarly, If you care about fashion the small tiny details can make a big difference and ultimately it might be better to splurge. In terms of a Uniqlo U replacement...hard to say, I've been looking but this la Apparel top (more of a sweatshirt) does have a similar fit losangelesapparel.net/collections/men-tops/products/hf14gd-heavy-fleece-tee?variant=15935481086063
What are your thoughts on the dropped hem? Does that make it look too much workwear for work than workwear for streetwear? I cant find any good pics or videos to make up my mind. Like your videos.
i have the brown Detroit jacket but maid in usa and i paid 60 2 years ago i love it
I bought mine for $5 with labels. A treasure.
@@raulferia1516 oh man now thats a steal
i hope you kept the og, you look a lot better in it
There was a time when the regular carhartt had 2 way zippers. I had one a long time ago
thats interesting I wonder when they produced those jackets - TBH the two way zipper does have a practical application making it easier to move in or when seated and driving / using machinery etc
Oh. Thanks. It hD the corduroy collar so I thought it was the same jacket
Thanks for the breakdown. I thought he materials would be completely different but I guess all the little differences add up. Do they add up to the difference in price? I'd have to try on both to know for myself.
The wip looks tidy on you mate 👌
Your jacket was made in South America? My detroit jacket was made in the USA, it has a label sewn in that says so. I only got it 5 years ago
Sorry, you have not tried this winter at what is the lowest temperature you can comfortably be outside in this jacket?
People are upset because you like the more expensive jacket lol I can agree though if you care about how you look and the fit of your clothes you should buy what fits you better its simple lol
lol yeah I mean, I wanted to see if there would be a reason why I would pick the 2x more expensive jacket and really my thoughts are if it makes you feel better / cooler / whatever and the other 1 just...doesnt quite do it, than you might as well go for the pricier piece
Great video. Wip just looks better, and the price isn't bad for a hard wearing wool lined jacket
I think the og one is worn by mathew mconaughey in intersellar
Imo not woth it, but if it's something like jordan mids vs highs I would definitely invest the money
too each their own Jari - but kind of like the mids vs highs, its the small details that make or break a fit
you should do a detroit vs eisenhower jacket video
the ultimate HEAD TO HEAD BATTLE. Maybe, they're pretty similar tho, no shade at Dickies, I typically think of Dickies products as a cheaper alternative to Carhartt.
What shirt are you wearing? Really love the thick neck