I was literally just assigned a project that involves a lot more rotoing then I'm comfortable with and was like, Evan's probably got a video on this. Thanks!
this is an amazing tutorial, I have learned all of these the hard way, here are some tips from me 1-use the new edge snap tool/magnet pen to get the edges faster and accurately 2-some times drawing a shape around a big complex actor for one frame for each frame is faster than making many small shapes if you won't be able to track the small shapes. 3-get a second monitor and watch a movie or a series while rotoing as for long runs if you got bored then you will be way slower than normal but while watching a movie you won't get bored and the work is not tedious anymore.
It's definitely a process to find what works subjectively. The work of work is creating systems that make us more efficient and happy. Glad you've found what works for you :)
Ok hold the phone. I'm sorry. I'm watching this at 150% speed and I just paused at 4:57 because you just blew my friggin MIND. No wonder rotoscoping seemed impossible. I was totally overworking the tool. Wow.
Great tutorial. Don't suppose you have a tutorial on rotoing hair in a breeze and fur? I've been trying rotobrush 2 with refine edge but it's not been brilliant.
Wicked!!!!! I am taking "VFX for motion" by School of Motion and this is super helpful! Anyone wanting to learn VFX i cannot reccomend their course enough. This is awesome Evan! Thanks for sharing 🙌🤟
Thanks for another excellent video tutorial. I often prefer putting a stick in my eye over rotoscope work, but that only makes the next roto job even harder, so I press on and dive in. I would love to see a tutorial by you regarding After Effect's Rotobrush. I have watched many tutorials, but for the life of me, all my attempts with Rotobrush usually end up with another stick in my eye. So I hope you will consider doing a tutorial on Rotobrush before I loose my mind (and sight). Thanks!
I can definitely put it on the list. It's a tool I have not found to be super helpful, and often very resource intensive for what it accomplishes. But it does have its purpose.
@@ECAbrams Thanks for considering this. I've seen some promising results, only to be disappointed when the selections go astray and I eventually abandon it altogether. I've spent an inordinate amount of time trying to get it to work. Some users claim great success, so I assume my failure is mostly user error. If anyone can explain the proper technique I'm missing, it would be you. No pressure, right?
Thanks Evan! Because I travel so much, I can’t use a green screen as much as I’d like. I find myself having to roto quite a bit so learning how to speed up this process by any means is amazing. Thanks for for this wonderful video!
I believe there is actually a little switch to turn on motion blur for the splines, that might help to calculate a motion blur from the change of spline shape and location. BUT, motion blur is the natural enemy of rotoscoping. If you have a green screen background though, chroma keying should be able to get you the keyed blurry area right? Unless you're clamping the results after the matte is applies. Boris makes are really good keying plugin I would highly recommend if you're not getting good enough results on your chroma keys.
This is very a clean explanation which helped a lot to understand easily. Of course, explained well too and no soundtrack while sharing tips made it more understandable. Thank you so much for this high quality content. I’m always ready to support your channel.
Hi, I need HELP!;!!!!!!!!!!!! Whenever I try to track my layer, I get an Error - "tracking layer terminated prematurely" Followed by "one or two layers were not tracked properly" What am I doing wrong?!?? Please help me out
ECAbrams that sounds cool! It would be awesome to see close to impossible roto work. It would also be good to see actually impossible roto work 🥳. A lot of times with roto, I have the attitude: if someone can do it... I can do it too, if I just know the right way. Helps a lot to see someone doing some insane roto work 💪
@@ECAbrams Here's few more of the insane: Barbwire, any kind of fence built out of some sort of strings etc. Sounds like I'm trolling here :D but I always wonder who in the world has rotoed something that I see.
5:00 agh wouldn't you use something like the paintbrush tool in Mocha? i don't know if thats what its called, but ive seen it in tutorials before. You paint over stuff just like when rotoscoping in After Effects.
I believe mocha has one of those now. I'm not sure it was a feature at the time of recording. Works well on patches of like pixels to make quick masks for sure.
I'm getting a lot of aliasing on the edges of my mask. Any idea how to reduce or solve this issue? I have a few other clips in the comp that have mocha masks and they're perfectly fine.
Oh, interesting. There are some effects that could smooth it out like matte chokers and channel effects. But it's strange that it's one of many similar examples. You haven't bumped a layer quality toggle by any chance?
I think that can be arranged! I've got one per month on the production schedule right now. We'll see what topics we get into as we go along! I think next we'll be getting into some x-spline tips and spline vs bezier concepts.
@@SupSupa10 *For now , for this video , this is ok without antenas , it will more complex ,need another video, like this one situation or something like read the the 👉 @Abdo A's comment 2 and replies from 2 legends (scroll down or up) ,1 is Admin of this channel and another is Mocha Planner channel with 35k sub , simillar kind of situation* 😀 👍
I use the Rotoscoping that is done using the Ae brush not Mocha. Can u provide a comparison between them or why should someone use this or that or what situations would be better to use anyone of them?
Imagine masking black hair on a black background or objects that are out of focus or motion blurred. These are some of the simple examples where rotobrush will not work, but Mocha will still save you time.
That's definitely a good subject for a followup video. There are a lot of factors to get into. And, choosing the right tool off the jump can really save a lot of lost hours later on. I'm gonna get that in the topic queue asap!
In this video, no. Mocha Ae is really only used here to speak to the concepts of Roto rather than the technical aspects. In future videos we'll look at particular tools that may be unique to Mocha Pro. But, everyone can follow along with this one.
as always I loved the video, maybe I missed something, but one thing I realized was that you never showed a final key/matte. Usually when i'm doing roto i'm contstantly preview the final key/matte or alpha channel. I'm new to Mocha so maybe i'm missing the point and will need to watch an introduction to Mocha video. Thanks again
I'll put the idea on the list. But, it may not be that satisfying of a tutorial. I would actually advise trying a pass with the rotobrush in Ae first if it's a full body, head to toe shot, of a person walking in profile.
@@movie-trailer19 as with most things, it depends on the specific task the tool is being applied to. Automated and AI driven systems can do a lot of big lifting. But they also make a lot of mistakes we need to correct manually anyway. For example, if the subject is wearing dark clothes, and walks into a shadowed area, the rotobrush can become completely confused by the similarity of the pixels.
I was literally just assigned a project that involves a lot more rotoing then I'm comfortable with and was like, Evan's probably got a video on this. Thanks!
this is an amazing tutorial,
I have learned all of these the hard way,
here are some tips from me
1-use the new edge snap tool/magnet pen to get the edges faster and accurately
2-some times drawing a shape around a big complex actor for one frame for each frame is faster than making many small shapes if you won't be able to track the small shapes.
3-get a second monitor and watch a movie or a series while rotoing as for long runs if you got bored then you will be way slower than normal but while watching a movie you won't get bored and the work is not tedious anymore.
It's definitely a process to find what works subjectively. The work of work is creating systems that make us more efficient and happy. Glad you've found what works for you :)
One of the best Roto Mocha tuts I have watched. Excellent. And you have a great vocab, too. Impressed.
As soon as you started with the process and looking at what actually needed to be done, I subscribed. Mark of a good anything.
This is life changing, THANK YOU!
You're very welcome! I hope it helps!
ECA I love your logo. best design, best ratios, best color grades and best motion. keep up the good work
Holy Shit! That "link to track" tip! Thanks man :D
Ok hold the phone. I'm sorry. I'm watching this at 150% speed and I just paused at 4:57 because you just blew my friggin MIND. No wonder rotoscoping seemed impossible. I was totally overworking the tool. Wow.
Great tutorial. Don't suppose you have a tutorial on rotoing hair in a breeze and fur? I've been trying rotobrush 2 with refine edge but it's not been brilliant.
Wicked!!!!! I am taking "VFX for motion" by School of Motion and this is super helpful! Anyone wanting to learn VFX i cannot reccomend their course enough. This is awesome Evan! Thanks for sharing 🙌🤟
Those School of Motion course be dope! And the team over there is awesome. highly recommend.
am from Tanzania when i use rotoscoping and turn off AE when i turn on again it tell me the file data is missing can you help me why?
Thanks! These are some great tips.
Like before watching
Excellent content, as always!
After he linked the 2 together, why didnt he track the refined edges? did he track it before and just linked it to the wing plane?
Thanks for another excellent video tutorial. I often prefer putting a stick in my eye over rotoscope work, but that only makes the next roto job even harder, so I press on and dive in.
I would love to see a tutorial by you regarding After Effect's Rotobrush. I have watched many tutorials, but for the life of me, all my attempts with Rotobrush usually end up with another stick in my eye. So I hope you will consider doing a tutorial on Rotobrush before I loose my mind (and sight). Thanks!
I can definitely put it on the list. It's a tool I have not found to be super helpful, and often very resource intensive for what it accomplishes. But it does have its purpose.
@@ECAbrams Thanks for considering this. I've seen some promising results, only to be disappointed when the selections go astray and I eventually abandon it altogether. I've spent an inordinate amount of time trying to get it to work. Some users claim great success, so I assume my failure is mostly user error. If anyone can explain the proper technique I'm missing, it would be you. No pressure, right?
Really sir that's frame where butterfly makes the wing from a narrow plane axis ...really amazed tips sir hi myself Rony an VFX CG student from India
love your videos, I have completed projects because of your videos, thanks a million
Thanks Evan! Because I travel so much, I can’t use a green screen as much as I’d like. I find myself having to roto quite a bit so learning how to speed up this process by any means is amazing. Thanks for for this wonderful video!
This is kinda still slow movement but how to deal with motion blur? Like let's say some quick wall on green screen you need to roto?
I believe there is actually a little switch to turn on motion blur for the splines, that might help to calculate a motion blur from the change of spline shape and location. BUT, motion blur is the natural enemy of rotoscoping. If you have a green screen background though, chroma keying should be able to get you the keyed blurry area right? Unless you're clamping the results after the matte is applies. Boris makes are really good keying plugin I would highly recommend if you're not getting good enough results on your chroma keys.
This is very a clean explanation which helped a lot to understand easily. Of course, explained well too and no soundtrack while sharing tips made it more understandable. Thank you so much for this high quality content. I’m always ready to support your channel.
Thanks. Glad you enjoy it.
Great job!
Thanks!
Hi, I need HELP!;!!!!!!!!!!!!
Whenever I try to track my layer, I get an Error - "tracking layer terminated prematurely"
Followed by "one or two layers were not tracked properly"
What am I doing wrong?!?? Please help me out
it could be a problem with the patch you have selected to track. There are many variables in tracking.
@@ECAbrams okay, alright.. I'll try again to figure it out, thanks!
I was thinking about roto thank you for making this video
Wow! Thank you :)
Would be cool if you would make a video about those tough moments where you roto something insane like power lines, hair or anything similiar 💪
The ECAbrams roto challenge!!!
ECAbrams that sounds cool! It would be awesome to see close to impossible roto work. It would also be good to see actually impossible roto work 🥳. A lot of times with roto, I have the attitude: if someone can do it... I can do it too, if I just know the right way. Helps a lot to see someone doing some insane roto work 💪
@@ECAbrams Here's few more of the insane: Barbwire, any kind of fence built out of some sort of strings etc. Sounds like I'm trolling here :D but I always wonder who in the world has rotoed something that I see.
5:00 agh wouldn't you use something like the paintbrush tool in Mocha? i don't know if thats what its called, but ive seen it in tutorials before. You paint over stuff just like when rotoscoping in After Effects.
I believe mocha has one of those now. I'm not sure it was a feature at the time of recording. Works well on patches of like pixels to make quick masks for sure.
@@ECAbrams oh I see, thanks for the reply :)
where can i get the butterfly video....????
Good question. I think I got this off Adobe stock... maybe? Hard to remember now.
Is it necessary to hint Mocha the position of the plane before tracking? Because I've never done that.
it is better when you do that. Mocha knows what is the plain and perspective and makes track better with the shape.
Absolutely. Telling mocha more info is always best.
I'm getting a lot of aliasing on the edges of my mask. Any idea how to reduce or solve this issue? I have a few other clips in the comp that have mocha masks and they're perfectly fine.
Oh, interesting. There are some effects that could smooth it out like matte chokers and channel effects. But it's strange that it's one of many similar examples. You haven't bumped a layer quality toggle by any chance?
@@ECAbrams Figured it out. It was a blend mode I forgot to disable on the layer when I did some temp masking in premiere.
@@chrisstewz ah! That makes perfect sense.
Great tutorial. Very informative. Question: With the current Mocha, do you use the magnetic tool? I’m new to Mocha.
More Mocha tuts pls!
I think that can be arranged! I've got one per month on the production schedule right now. We'll see what topics we get into as we go along! I think next we'll be getting into some x-spline tips and spline vs bezier concepts.
thanks Evan!!
do you have a masterclass for mocha ae?
I have a few other tutorials on this channel but that's about it for content by me about mocha though.
I like the Premiere and After Effects pillows lol!
Some day I'll collect the whole set :)
What's about butterfly's beard ? :)
*You mean 2 antennas* ? ✌️😁
@@geekfx477 Yeas :))
@@SupSupa10
*For now , for this video , this is ok without antenas , it will more complex ,need another video, like this one situation or something like read the the 👉 @Abdo A's comment 2 and replies from 2 legends (scroll down or up) ,1 is Admin of this channel and another is Mocha Planner channel with 35k sub , simillar kind of situation* 😀 👍
Great tips! Thanks!
I use the Rotoscoping that is done using the Ae brush not Mocha. Can u provide a comparison between them or why should someone use this or that or what situations would be better to use anyone of them?
Imagine masking black hair on a black background or objects that are out of focus or motion blurred. These are some of the simple examples where rotobrush will not work, but Mocha will still save you time.
That's definitely a good subject for a followup video. There are a lot of factors to get into. And, choosing the right tool off the jump can really save a lot of lost hours later on. I'm gonna get that in the topic queue asap!
Thanks!
It wasn't clear to me. Did you use features only available in Pro version?
In this video, no. Mocha Ae is really only used here to speak to the concepts of Roto rather than the technical aspects. In future videos we'll look at particular tools that may be unique to Mocha Pro. But, everyone can follow along with this one.
as always I loved the video, maybe I missed something, but one thing I realized was that you never showed a final key/matte. Usually when i'm doing roto i'm contstantly preview the final key/matte or alpha channel. I'm new to Mocha so maybe i'm missing the point and will need to watch an introduction to Mocha video. Thanks again
THANK YOU!!!
This is roto-tastic!!
Really helpful!
*Like*
Thanks
Finally! A real challenge tutorial, others just like easy green screen :D also your voice really sexy :D haha
Thanks this was helpfull
wonderful
Make a Tutorial about rotoscoping a person in motion and placing Motion Graphics behind him.
I'll put the idea on the list. But, it may not be that satisfying of a tutorial. I would actually advise trying a pass with the rotobrush in Ae first if it's a full body, head to toe shot, of a person walking in profile.
@@ECAbrams I wonder which rotoscoping tool will work better (Mocha vs. AE)
@@movie-trailer19 as with most things, it depends on the specific task the tool is being applied to. Automated and AI driven systems can do a lot of big lifting. But they also make a lot of mistakes we need to correct manually anyway. For example, if the subject is wearing dark clothes, and walks into a shadowed area, the rotobrush can become completely confused by the similarity of the pixels.
I just did this the hard way and there were a chocolot of keyframes. I can't espresso how uh... latte... uhhhh......
Yeah not this is a hard one, bud.
Amazing
Can you include english subtitles? I am hearing impaired
Absolutely. I'll try to get that in the pipeline shortly.
@@ECAbrams thank you will be waiting
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yesss
2:03 turfly
I hate Mocha, don't know how to work on it
Hopefully we can turn that around. Where does the trouble start?
@@ECAbrams the interface, itself! also, The stacking of layers (TRACKS)
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