Not sure where all the Hartenstein love is coming from. Dude isn’t anywhere near worth what you would have to pay to sign him. Better off keeping Goga and let him get better.
Suggs and Harris are one of the worst offensive backcourt in the NBA and now the Magic decided to replace Harris with a slightly better version of him? This is Franz 4th year and Banchero 3rd year they got no help I don’t blame them if they decided to leave or request a trade
@@321thachAnd that’s why you’re not an NBA player nor GM. People like you have to understand that Paolo and Franz are our superstars. They have to develop. If you take time to put down the game controller and observe what’s happening in the NBA you wouldn’t ever typed this.
Gary hit that slump after December and never found his stroke again. On top of the injuries, KCP definitely upgraded that spot. The signing goes on line with the Magic wanting there young guys to develop without changing the identity of the group. Suggs/AB/Cole gotta find it.
not much good option at PG at the free agent, I was hoping I can cheaply sign CP3 for 1 year, the next better option is Dinwiddie and probably can get him cheap.
I want to believe it was a good signing but I am not convinced. He is not the table setter that Paolo mentioned, he is not a volume shooter either. He may be better that GH, but if we’re talking about home court advantage, and with what the Knicks did, now assuming PG is going to the Sixers, at best , if things work out the Magic will be number 4. I’m not sure the KCP moves the needle that much for that.
@@maniacslap1623 I would be ok if the Magic is 4th for sure. But we have to remember that a healthy Sixers would have been ahead of the Magic this past season, now the Knicks are better, the Pacers are better, the Cavs are still good. So lots of things have to go the Magic way for the 4th seed to happen. I just don’t believe KCP helped with that
The 3rd year is player option but i think that'll make him a good trade piece for a star down the line as long as he can stay healthy and at least be a respectable shooter
I like KCP as a player, but i honestly feel that was a panic signing....we could have did without him and saved some money....I really felt it was only 2 players they should have went after and that's Dlo russel, and Anfernee simons.If not them, role with who we have....with that type of contract its almost guaranteed he starts....we are one of the only teams who doesn't have a decent point guard....lets hope during the off season that anthony Black developed into a shooter, or da silva is better than expected on both sides of the ball. Fuck it lets hope Jett Howard is transforming into a pg that can shoot(😂😂😂).....i think we honestly signed a overpriced role player, they could have gave that money to Moe Wagner....just my opinion tho
I don't think it is a panic move, Magic does need a upgrade for Gary Harris. Yes, 22m seems overpaid but the salary cap will be increased by alot next off season so 22m is not going to affect the resigning of Suggs and Wagner
KCP checks toooooo many boxes; outside of Suggs (more so just defense) ALL of our guards were suspect. He’ll space the floor, and is durable. With a team option we can flip him for something more solidified… Remember - everyone you mentioned, AB and Jett included have “if” by their name… a 2x champ (even as a guard) can assist in that development…
there is no good Point Guard out there so this might be the best move for Orlando to sign KCP and play Suggs at PG next season. A bit overpay but I think is fine, Magic can still sign 1 to 2 good role players like Hartenstein and Dinwiddie and bring back Mo Wagner and Ingles in a cheaper contract
PG is on record saying he could never be the best player on a team, but y’all throwing shade at an intricate part of 2 championship teams…? Stop focusing on TV and social media sports… and THINK 😂
22 mil to replace Gary Harris - terrible - KCP is basically an older version of Suggs and does very little to shore up the weaknesses the team had - we need an elite volume shooting and ballhandling guard. This makes us slightly better. Suggs is not a point guard and neither is KCP, neither is Franz, neither is Paolo and Black isn't a volume shooter and scorer. Way too much money for a redundant player. Unless they do something to improve the guard spot, this was a bad signing. We need a volume shooter and scorer from deep who can handle the ball - not Paul George and not Klay Thompson.
@@michaelstover6778 he actually spitting facts. Lol u the one thats Casual my guy. Yal overpaid for kcp. Kcp is not an elite shooter nor defender. He a decent defender who plays the passing lanes. And he is not an elite shooter. Yall paid 22 for a backup who started on a championship team. It's alot of games in Denver when he only scored 5 or under and had little impact defensively.
Yea, I’m kinda there too. He adds some depth for sure, but also just feels like some more streaky athleticism. Like a micheal pietrus signing or something. Magic are just dying for a guard with reliable offense, particularly from 3 range, preferably a point guard. We’ve got our window with a star big guy in Paolo, we need offense immediately or we might see another lakers poaching in a couple years.
So if it's not a giant step forward then why make this signing? Did we just misuse our asset and blow a big opportunity? Here is another thing. They're paying him 22 million per. I wonder if they even tried to call Malik Monk reps because he resigned with the Kings at less per season.
this team will for ever be medicore and will never win a championship. paolo will eventually will demand out just like shaq dwight... sad sad day for magic fans
What are you even talking about? Great move by the Magic. PG was never coming to the Magic. If you thought he was, you’re not someone who understands how the real-world NBA actually works. Yours is a classic 2K take.
@@AndyKapp ur right i knew pg was never comming to orl and thats because the magic is an irrelevant franchise. they overpay role players they draft player with the number one pick to only see them head to la eventually. no one in the nba takes orl seriously and that has to change... last time the magic signed an all star free agent was in 07 when they signed rashard. almost 20 yrs thats inexcuseable
@@stevec4189 You get taken seriously by winning. It’s a path you can’t shortcut. Signing names that don’t fit is a shortcut. Look at the history of teams that have won recently. They have all been on a 6-8 year arc. It took Jordan 7 years to get a ring. Lebron needed 8. But why use real- world examples when we can play 2K and make it happen instantly. You’re a Heat fan hating because Riley didn’t make any moves.
This was exactly what we need! A person who can shot a 3 point shot and who has experience but not too old. Love it!
Just watched some KCP defensive highlights, he will fit in well.
Paolo will be double , one on one not to many will be able to stop him and he also is very good passer
Getting better all the time..
Not sure where all the Hartenstein love is coming from.
Dude isn’t anywhere near worth what you would have to pay to sign him.
Better off keeping Goga and let him get better.
Suggs and KCP is one of the best defensive backcourts in the East
Suggs/Cole
KCP/Black
Franz/da Silva/Jett
Paolo/JI
Wendell/FA big
*league
Also one of the worst offensive backcourt in the NBA if not the worst
Suggs and Harris are one of the worst offensive backcourt in the NBA and now the Magic decided to replace Harris with a slightly better version of him? This is Franz 4th year and Banchero 3rd year they got no help I don’t blame them if they decided to leave or request a trade
@@321thachAnd that’s why you’re not an NBA player nor GM.
People like you have to understand that Paolo and Franz are our superstars. They have to develop.
If you take time to put down the game controller and observe what’s happening in the NBA you wouldn’t ever typed this.
@@321thach
😂😂😂 this guy
So we upgraded Harris' spot. Let's now upgrade Ingles' and Carter's
They drafted Tristan Da Silva to upgrade Ingles.
Awesome fit! Plugs in defensively 40% behind the arc. 2x NBA Champion. Love it
KCP is a pretty good signing. Experience on championship teams a plus.
Just a fun fact to look up on players with the most rings on teams winning their first title?
btw, enjoyed the live broadcast, well done.
Why not still go after Anfernee Simons, 28 million left in cap room
Gary hit that slump after December and never found his stroke again. On top of the injuries, KCP definitely upgraded that spot.
The signing goes on line with the Magic wanting there young guys to develop without changing the identity of the group.
Suggs/AB/Cole gotta find it.
Great fit for Orlando👌 love this tim...
Gary Harris was the weak spot for the magic, missed some many wide open threes
We still need a traditional PG and better rebounding
Yes we need some play making.
not much good option at PG at the free agent, I was hoping I can cheaply sign CP3 for 1 year, the next better option is Dinwiddie and probably can get him cheap.
Yay we just spent 22 million in a glorified backup, great job guys
Time for the magic to run the east again like the days if old, But this time it's time to finally get that chip!!!!!....
I want to believe it was a good signing but I am not convinced. He is not the table setter that Paolo mentioned, he is not a volume shooter either. He may be better that GH, but if we’re talking about home court advantage, and with what the Knicks did, now assuming PG is going to the Sixers, at best , if things work out the Magic will be number 4. I’m not sure the KCP moves the needle that much for that.
If we finish 4th, in a healthier East, u gotta be ok with that. Only a couple moves were gonna put us in the top 3.
@@maniacslap1623 I would be ok if the Magic is 4th for sure. But we have to remember that a healthy Sixers would have been ahead of the Magic this past season, now the Knicks are better, the Pacers are better, the Cavs are still good. So lots of things have to go the Magic way for the 4th seed to happen. I just don’t believe KCP helped with that
Have you see him play? Lol
The 3rd year is player option but i think that'll make him a good trade piece for a star down the line as long as he can stay healthy and at least be a respectable shooter
He was the 5th option on the nuggets relax people
His production will go up
I like KCP as a player, but i honestly feel that was a panic signing....we could have did without him and saved some money....I really felt it was only 2 players they should have went after and that's Dlo russel, and Anfernee simons.If not them, role with who we have....with that type of contract its almost guaranteed he starts....we are one of the only teams who doesn't have a decent point guard....lets hope during the off season that anthony Black developed into a shooter, or da silva is better than expected on both sides of the ball. Fuck it lets hope Jett Howard is transforming into a pg that can shoot(😂😂😂).....i think we honestly signed a overpriced role player, they could have gave that money to Moe Wagner....just my opinion tho
I don't think it is a panic move, Magic does need a upgrade for Gary Harris. Yes, 22m seems overpaid but the salary cap will be increased by alot next off season so 22m is not going to affect the resigning of Suggs and Wagner
If only as a trade chip it's a great signing..
KCP checks toooooo many boxes; outside of Suggs (more so just defense) ALL of our guards were suspect. He’ll space the floor, and is durable. With a team option we can flip him for something more solidified…
Remember - everyone you mentioned, AB and Jett included have “if” by their name… a 2x champ (even as a guard) can assist in that development…
@@BrentonBannister-gc2pt and his playoff experience is a great asset for this young magic
Our team is great they get better and better as a group we need to acquire Donovan Mitchell next year and keep isaac, paolo, franz, suggs, Anthony
overpay medicore player medicore team sounds right
Give us tyus jones and it’s a perfect offseason
And he's willing to shoot it unlike GH. Great signing.
why no mention on magic site
Little surprised they resigned Gary Harris.
Thank god it’s not Diangelo Russel
“Let’s do some math! Magic paying $22 mill for KCP. If they have $50 mill in cap space than that’s means $38 mill left!”
Way to math the math
I did not math well.
Tyus Jones
Over payed for an average player who doesnt even address our main issues. The Magic way. To stay trudging in the muddle of the pack.
Shooting isn’t one of our main issues??
Do you watch basketball… on TV? 🙄
there is no good Point Guard out there so this might be the best move for Orlando to sign KCP and play Suggs at PG next season. A bit overpay but I think is fine, Magic can still sign 1 to 2 good role players like Hartenstein and Dinwiddie and bring back Mo Wagner and Ingles in a cheaper contract
Ingles needs to coach… Da Silva replaced his slowness
@@BrentonBannister-gc2pt agree Ingles is more a lockerroom guy they need as a mentor
PG is on record saying he could never be the best player on a team, but y’all throwing shade at an intricate part of 2 championship teams…?
Stop focusing on TV and social media sports… and THINK 😂
KCP is the perfect blend of TRoss and Gary Harris
def no tross blend lmao gary harris blend yes
@@stevec4189 you a casual you don’t know wtf you talking about. Your name Steve mfer
I miss tha human torch. He wasn't a starter yet when he got in tha game all attention was paid to him.
$22m for KCP? What a waste of cap space.
So much hype and salary cap for this, KCP 🤦🏻♂️ 🤦🏻♂️ 😅Magic = pathetic franchise.
I love Jalen Suggs play, but he still not a point guard yet !
Jalen was a QB. A QB in the NBA is a PG.
You say um an uhhh waaaayyyyy too much
But y’all think Wendell should start?
🙄😂😂😂
kcp is significantly better than Gary Harris. And I think his volume will go up on this team
Suggs could play some point, but not full time
This new CBA is costing Jokic multiple championships smh, he’s now almost in just as bad as of spot as Curry is
28M. Not 38
Yeah, I didn't math right there. My bad!
What about Luke Kenard 15mil?
Would not pay $15m for Kennard. He doesn't defense and that is what the Magic value most.
22 mil to replace Gary Harris - terrible - KCP is basically an older version of Suggs and does very little to shore up the weaknesses the team had - we need an elite volume shooting and ballhandling guard. This makes us slightly better. Suggs is not a point guard and neither is KCP, neither is Franz, neither is Paolo and Black isn't a volume shooter and scorer. Way too much money for a redundant player. Unless they do something to improve the guard spot, this was a bad signing. We need a volume shooter and scorer from deep who can handle the ball - not Paul George and not Klay Thompson.
Sounds like you don’t watch bb much
Sounds like a Trae Young to me
@@michaelstover6778 he actually spitting facts. Lol u the one thats Casual my guy. Yal overpaid for kcp. Kcp is not an elite shooter nor defender. He a decent defender who plays the passing lanes. And he is not an elite shooter. Yall paid 22 for a backup who started on a championship team. It's alot of games in Denver when he only scored 5 or under and had little impact defensively.
Yea, I’m kinda there too. He adds some depth for sure, but also just feels like some more streaky athleticism. Like a micheal pietrus signing or something. Magic are just dying for a guard with reliable offense, particularly from 3 range, preferably a point guard. We’ve got our window with a star big guy in Paolo, we need offense immediately or we might see another lakers poaching in a couple years.
So if it's not a giant step forward then why make this signing? Did we just misuse our asset and blow a big opportunity?
Here is another thing. They're paying him 22 million per. I wonder if they even tried to call Malik Monk reps because he resigned with the Kings at less per season.
this team will for ever be medicore and will never win a championship. paolo will eventually will demand out just like shaq dwight... sad sad day for magic fans
What are you even talking about? Great move by the Magic.
PG was never coming to the Magic. If you thought he was, you’re not someone who understands how the real-world NBA actually works.
Yours is a classic 2K take.
You have no idea. KCP is a good get and a massive loss for Denver.
@@AndyKapp ur right i knew pg was never comming to orl and thats because the magic is an irrelevant franchise. they overpay role players they draft player with the number one pick to only see them head to la eventually. no one in the nba takes orl seriously and that has to change... last time the magic signed an all star free agent was in 07 when they signed rashard. almost 20 yrs thats inexcuseable
@@stevec4189 put down the X Box controller and snap into reality…
@@stevec4189 You get taken seriously by winning. It’s a path you can’t shortcut. Signing names that don’t fit is a shortcut.
Look at the history of teams that have won recently. They have all been on a 6-8 year arc.
It took Jordan 7 years to get a ring. Lebron needed 8.
But why use real- world examples when we can play 2K and make it happen instantly.
You’re a Heat fan hating because Riley didn’t make any moves.
KCP isn’t a shooter, but he hits very timely shots.
If black isn’t ready to start this season another bust
Garry Harris no shows in playoffs