i personally believe that it would take ages for the general public to adopt a linux based os a shiny fancy macbook, with a 2k pricetag feels waay more appealing to a normie, than a open source OS there again, china is developing open kylin, a windows and mac replacement , as the chinese gov loses trust in western cooperations. so if open kylin gets mass adoption in china one day, the market potential for linux software would be really high
@@AIC_onyt I have to use a MacBook for work, and apple delivers a pretty decent Unix like experience. Sure, the drivers and init system are Apple's proprietary software, but it still comes with SSH and zsh on the system. UX wise also MacOS is opinionated, but it can still be customized way more than Windows. Literally the best keybinding available in a commercial OS. (I have a setup where I mimic i3 keybinds and use Amethyst to tile my windows). I still prefer Linux because the system itself is more configurable, but I can see how anyone not inclined to tinker with their OS would pick MacOS over Linux - even if they are a CLI heavy developer.
@@AIC_onyt china isn't capable to develop even simplest tech, they steal everything from corpos and governments. just wait and see how they will use something stolen of from canonical ftp :)
@@AIC_onyt "Continues official support" I feel like that's just what it boils down to at the end of the day. Most people just want stability or the guarantee that the os that had all their precious work and entertainment data just won't suddenly break one day. This is why most normies most likely will stick with SteamOS for the steam deck instead of downloading windows because they have full confidence that valve will most likely support this os for the long-term.
The most amazing move M$ made decades ago: After being declared a monopoly by the government, and declared so in a court of law, they arranged to pay off portions of their fines by donating copies of windows to schools across the entire nation. Cost them pennies per disk (or less when just key lists), allowed them to charge much more per install against their bill, and ensure an entire generation of school kids grew up working on their operating system in a time when they may not even have a home computer. It also guaranteed any computers bought would be windows since that would be what was compatible with what the school used. Losing that court case was possibly the best marketing win M$ could have ever achieved. "Yup, you're a monopoly. Here's a fine you can pay off by indoctrinating an entire generation into using your OS." And so the stage was set for M$ to be the thing everyone was used to ever since. I really don't care of the company or its practices, but still have to admire the brilliance of that move.
Once I read someone's comment along the lines of "the year of the Linux desktop is a personal thing". I agree with that. For me, it was years ago. For someone else, it might be today. For yet another, it could be years from now. It all depends on whether your needs and wants can be met with Linux or not, and that is a very personal question.
That's probably the better way to go about it than just an all-encompassing thing like is usually discussed, tbh. Because in that case, my year of Linux was last year. Still, it's just an OS - and at the end of the day, what else are OSes but tools? Now if Michaelsoft would just STOP MESSING WITH THOSE TOOLS and adding ai-driven buttplugs, maybe switching wouldn't be such a hot topic.
Yeah, this makes sense. I've thought for a while that there will be no definite article "The" Year, merely stronger and weaker years. Seems like the years are definitely getting stronger though, both on Linux getting much more usable overall AND Windows getting... actively more hostile towards its userbase with each passing year. My year was a couple years ago, but Linux was... not ready for most people, at least as far as gaming -- productivity was generally fine then. Now I can recommend it much more wholeheartedly! The year depends on what you actually want and need and even just when you can put in the (substantial) effort to learn a new workflow, regardless of the 'objective' quality of the options. The 'push' from Windows sucking harder, the 'pull' from Linux getting better from your particular use case, and the opportunity to learn a new thing from scratch (often rare) all have to line up for the particular user for switching to make sense. Sometimes I get the feeling that on some level, Microsoft doesn't _want_ to be supporting all the world's personal computers, but had the crown fall into their lap and are struggling to monetize that no longer functional position within the market they distorted while not disrupting operations badly enough that governments have to step in and remove them, but can't resist the natural tendency of shareholder corporations to try to make everything theirs and destroy anything they can't control for long enough to disentangle themselves from their own choking success, and as a result they almost... lash out against the users they've been 'unwillingly' saddled with. They can't let go of the addiction to what seems like a monopoly _juuust_ within their grasp, but in their desire to capture everything in a one-size-fits-all way and maintain a white-knuckled grip on all of it at once, they act with what seems like contempt towards everyone and everything that interacts with them. Eventually, the perceived resentment becomes mutual, and their very anti-consumer actions to consolidate power force people away from them. Isn't there a line going around (something Star Wars?), something about "the more they tighten their grip, the more slips through their grasp"? That seems to be the tragedy of Microsoft, to me. Well, a lot of corporate oligarchies, but Microsoft is a really big and 'boring' example. No big executive egos or new technology, just banal Too Big To Fail, too big to manoeuvre (but still needs to be _bigger_ by the next shareholder meeting). Three 'bigs' making an impossible situation that leads to customers getting screwed more each quarter. It becomes too much for each person at a different time.
I like that. I've been using Linux on and off for like... 20 years now. I've gone back and forth, daily driving Linux for months or a year at a time, but i always end up back in Windows. I have always had livecds of various distros laying around, and these days I keep a ventoy thumb drive with several options on it. I enjoy tinkering with it, and it's very powerful for certain things. But this video is accurate, I have a lot of momentum in my current setup, it's hard to change. I've been getting back into Linux though with my steam deck, relearning some stuff. Idk maybe it's time to try out Linux again on my main PC 👍
One day, Linux will be mainstream. Probably not this year (my year of Linux, personally), but with how solid the support is, I don't doubt that it rises to challenge Windows soon enough. I mean, I have fewer problems on Mint than I did on Windows!
lol yes. Every other year is "The year of linux" and usually it's for meh reasons. Though, I can't say never. If companies like microsoft stay on the course they are with aggressive advertisement, data harvesting, and opt-out "features" that turn themselves back on silently, the year of "enough is enough" may be upon us eventually.
I've had a Steam deck for about a year now and have loved it. One day I accidentally updated my Windows 10 to 11, it started stuttering BAD (prob some viruses or something). I looked into Mint and have been using that for about 2 months and have no intention to go back to Windows. The deck totally influenced that.
pretty similar experience for me, I've tinkered in the terminal a few times on my Steam Deck with little luck but all that's taught me is Arch is not the right distro for me. I made a mint virtual machine recently to try it out on my PC and when I get a laptop next year I'm planning on going Mint with a gnome desktop. would probably have stayed on windows for much longer if not for the Steam Deck showing me Linux gaming is pretty simple.
This video length is perfect. The editing is on point (I like that news section and the end credit scene). I feel like there has been a lot more improvement from previous videos, but the entirtainment is still fulfilling. I personally think the year of the linux desktop is any year when the users increase. Like "it's Linux's best year yet" every year because its getting more popular.
Linux has become user-friendly. I believe this alone will make people try and like how it works. Gaming was the only thing that stopped me from switching over and now it is not an issue for me. Thanks to Steam , Proton and others games are playable without too many problems to overcome.
I could be considered an "advanced" computer user but I'm a recent convert to Linux. As an outsider, I think those waist deep in Linux underestimate how important Linux is to the world today as to what technology can be in the future. It's a disruptor. There's no reason to not advocate for systems that are literally free of charge and open source. As a newcomer learning Linux, I've come to see that I'm really just learning a deeper level of computing that's usually hidden in proprietary OS. I'm learning through one member of the "Unix family" which underpins almost every OS today (even mutants like Windows). I don't find Linux to be unfriendly more than I was previously poorly informed about computing.
I've been hearing "year of Linux " since 2001. I worked at CompUSA and saw a magazine that had that on the cover. Linux is just NOW worth trying for a ex ex-windows user like myself and even then I got a separate SSD just for Linux. I won't let go of windows as a gamer.
I strongly recommend you give both Lutris and Bottles a try. Proton is advancing at a stupidly fast pace. Also, it helps to make your Linux look cool. Mine is aesthetically more pleasing than Windows (I did a YT tutorial that mimics macs) and it's also one of the reasons I prefer it.
Just as a side node, the switch is has nothing todo with bsd, it's an old rumor that doesn't die. It's actually completelly custom os, that's a rewrite of the 3ds OS. The rumor comes from the open source licenses, where the FreeBSD license is included, because nintendo borrowed a small part of it for a socket api they make available to applications.
Baby Linux user here (like, a bit over a full 24 hours new) and I'm very much looking forward to your vids. My switch was due to the fall of Twitter and the creepy nosiness of Google and Windows making me much more interested in open-sourced and more private options of pretty much everything. I'm not a heavy gamer with thousands or even hundreds of games, but I'd still like to play the few dozen I have. Videos to help me get them to work/work better/how to troubleshoot would be incredibly helpful! Subbed and looking forward to seeing them. :)
A bit of unsolicited advice if you don't mind. If you are doing something and it becomes complicated. Just ask yourself, what is the Linux way of doing this. Most of the time people bring their knowledge from Windows or MacOS and expect Linux to work the same. It would be like me taking all my years of Linux experience and going to Windows or MacOS and expecting things to be done the same way I'm used to with Linux.
"The year of the Linux desktop" imo, and I'm not talking about the 9x% meme bc for that to happen one of the other os will need to regress to linux current market share and let's be real that will not happen. But the "actual" "year" is to me once Linux will get big enough that outside software companies will view it as profitable enough to support. Once that happens and we get the software support the other os have (hell! I'd settle for like, 70% of it) I'd be happy.
I got forced win11 at work, and as a computer user for longer than I will admit, win11 might be the drop that will make me try Linux again at home. I have tried Linux a few times, with 5 years intervals, but always dropped it because I want to use my computer to solve other tasks and not have tinkering with linux be the main task. Win11 feels like its going away from standards we have been used to for over a decade to make the UI look nicer. I HATE the new combined taskbar and the compressed rbm contexts menu. Win11 feels like its says "no do it this way" for UX stuff we have been used to for a long time. On top now the "AI" is creeping into office and windows and its both annoying as hell and scary. So yeah, maybe its time to try Linux again. Even though I dread having to relearn names of tools I use. And its still strange to me that the Linux community can't focus on making it easier to pick the right distro for new users. Year of Linux will never happen as long as the new user experience is not much more simplified. I work in a specialized area of computer graphics, and I wouldn't be surprised if only 20% of our younger colleagues know how to navigate the disk drive from a command prompt. Average Linux user is much more tech savvy than an average win/mac/mobile user.
I am biased (I've been using Arch for 5 years) but Arch is the best distro to use. Debian and Ubuntu variants have always had trouble with updates and getting the latest versions of software. The installation is a bit of a learning curve, but if you follow the directions exactly, and make sure to open links in a new tab, then it isn't so bad. Once everything is up and running it is super stable. If the installation is too much of a hurdle I recommend Manjaro KDE (Plasma) edition, but then you are trading some stability in updates for convenience.
People need a reason to switch, I'm used to DOS command line and windows xp made my machine slow to the point where it was barely usable. I had a real material reason to switch and had no choice but to use it as a daily driver. Anytime I want to retro game I use Linux and now that I have started using the Proton layer I'm only using Windows for game pass and Flight Simulator. People choose Windows because it works and usually works well on your machine for years at a time. I just had a cheap wal mart computer in 04.
All I want is for Linux to be big enough that companies stop acting like it doesn't exist. Mac is worse for gaming in almost every aspect, yet Mac ports are still more likely because its overall marketshare is like 5%. If Linux got to that level, PERFECTION.
so. fucking. good. Im excited for the series as much as possible, since i want to switch into linux someday... well when bottles next would come out i guess (since every time i gain enough courage i always found out that there is new app that would elevate the user experience, so i angrily wait until everything comes out haha). Just being an open source nature and so modular (pls include unixporn into that i am a sucker for aesthetic), besides being a thing that you can freely develop to or integrate something inside it... damn that's my dream since i used Windows 7! Hopefully you release it soon so we can all admire the hard work you put in. No joke those documentary/old vibe you give is something that refreshed youtube, for me at least
I've found that Linux is extremely capable at becoming what you need it to be in a particular situation. If you need to build a gaming console that has an efficient kernel and the ability to layer on any kind of UI that you can build, then you can do it. But it takes technical skill and time. It is typically something someone is being paid for. It is the same when operating as a desktop OS. The ability to make it do whatever you want is definitely there, or it is open for development if not. However, as a software developer myself, I just land in a sort of "eye-roll" moment every time I try it as a desktop OS. It's like... sure... I can absolutely develop a new piece of software to do this thing I'm used to, but I can't be bothered. And thus, Linux itself will never have its year. Because as optimistic as I and my other peers in the software industry are, I just don't feel like doing it.
Ooh, I'm excited for the series. Been using Linux (Mint, mostly) for years now, but I feel I never really properly 'learned' it. It's just that Windows got too... generally bad and too difficult to wrangle into doing what I wanted and too untrustworthy to feel good about using, and I could see that all the issues I had were getting increasingly worse over time and weren't going to reverse, so I started dual-booting and used Windows less and less as Wine/Proton/etc. improved, and one day I accidentally broke my Windows 7 partition and just... never reinstalled it. Learning more formal stuff about the common command-line utilities (useful, but not very discoverable except through randomly poking 'apropos' or searching your package manager), setting environment variables, and the like would be really useful for me. I remember with the OLD versions of Windows (95, ME) I first really learned computers on I became seen as a 'technical' person because I read all the manuals and poked into every menu and could usually figure out how to make software do what someone wanted (the version of ME we had even actively encouraged personalisation like custom retheming of the UI, with a big package of styles to mix and match components from). Eventually Windows began actively resisting attempts to explore and tweak things, hiding functionality from the users, leaving things undocumented, and it was just more hassle than it was worth. I've been learning Linux in a similar intuitive way since (though these days we generally have either online documentation or textmode man/info files rather than the local hypertext manuals [.chm?] things had in the Win9X days. Still better than the general NO documentation/"don't worry your pretty little head about that" stuff modern Windows has. It's kind of frightening how copy-pasted and boilerplate Microsoft patch notes or error code lookups are. The majority of the time, it seems there's just... no information, they made a record for the thing but redacted out all the information. Something like "Security update F7E6921 for Product(tm)(r)": "This is an important security update for Product(tm)(r). It is important to system security to install this update." seems to be all you get as far as update descriptions in Windows, and error codes don't seem any better (I thought after Therac-25 we as an industry all agreed that obscure error codes with no obvious cause/severity info and no user-accessible lookup table were bad!). It's important to me to have computers that are both honest (tell me what's going on) and obedient (do what I want them to, rather than some other party), and for that I had to switch, but I still have a sort of 'imposter syndrome' about myself as a "Linux User". Honestly, my ability (and willingness) to read manuals is apparently still a big asset, it got me made PC Hardware Person of the house recently after unwillingness to read manuals caused embarrassing repeated damage for the previous (older generation) Technical Master Of All Trades. (PSA: Read both the motherboard AND THE CPU COOLER MANUAL when setting up a PC. CPU sockets are delicate, and you do NOT want to squish the CPU down millimetres more than intended by setting up a CPU cooler with the wrong mounting hardware. Plus, motherboard manuals are just fun reading. You learn so much about so many obscure features you didn't know your machine had! It's nostalgic for me, like when I was exploring computers for the first time and looking through the huge array of Packard Bell bundle-in disks and peripherals and manuals.)
it would be hell for linux and us as users if it truly becomes "popular". look at history, after becoming famous, everything gets ruined for the end users.
The reason i do not use linux already is, because it's unsupported by many games... But the reason many games are unsupported is, because there aren't enough linux users
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The thing is, the answer to why one should switch to linux isnt a good reason to learn another operating system. Its not worth the effort if everythings working already. Its has high risks such as a game or program wont work and there is no reward. Why bother fix something, if it isnt broke. I have used both linux and windows so dont tell me that im not respecting my own privacy by using windows or something, there are solutions to this in windows such as using a 3rd party firewall. But if a game doesnt work, you have no solution until devs fix it. Its like using a beta software. No thank you.
About the wayland thing, gpu screen recorder works fine with plasma wayland, never had to give it root access, only issue is no global hotkeys but you can just add gpu-screen-recorder [arguments and stuff] command as a shortcut. I know wayland still has its other issues but id thought id let you know.
Waylands main problem is that the devs limited the scope early on and ended up with it being too limited (only a display protocol) and this left a huge gap between what xorg provides and Wayland's core focus - now desktop environments like Plasma, Gnome, and even some projects like Sway are adding back that functionality but sometimes stepping on each other's toes. (Screen sharing is an excellent example)
Found your content yesterday and I'm glad I did. It's seem very rare to find a Linux user with reasonable views on stuff like this online sometimes and its good to know some exist.
I feel like a lot of Linux's "oddities" and differences from Windows could be solved at the shell/desktop environment level. Like, map every mountable partitions to drive letters, kinda like in Windows, hide the scary / file system (kinda what OSX is doing), have wine installed and configured by default so exes can run, as well as Mono/.NET Core to run .NET exes, etc. as well as GUI frontends for the console commands people may commonly use. Like, the stuff like mounting partitions to arbitrary directories, / file system, terminal, etc. would be still available if you need/want it, but you wouldn't need to interact with it if you don't have to.
that is not being random, that is how statistics work, you dont get an sample rate of 100% of the population for anything, proportion of male to female in a population, size of the population, proportion of black/white people, proportion of english speakers or french in canada... you dont interview 100% of the population, you get an sample and that is enough to make an pretty accurate estimation (so long as your sample is distributed correctly)
I understand where you come from. I don't use Wayland and have been in the GE servers and the amount of errors on Wayland is hilarious. I've heard peeps insist on it over and over again and trip up every 5 minutes. I've been on Mint 21.2 for the past year or so and it is fast and efficient. Likewise, I love your take on looking at it more as tool chains and habits. People do fear what they don't understand, and including that is an important part of improving support and helping people to ask relevant questions such as "What am I using my computer for?" and "Can Linux make what I do easier?". Also, privacy I think is only a secondary reason to switch. Linux in my view requires a growth mindset and an intent to learn more about your computer in general. It is okay that there are groups of people out there that don't want to put in that effort, as their effort is already going in other directions. I think the true way to market Linux is that it is a great way to learn about how computers work, and then you get to build something awesome in the process that is better tailored to what you want to do with it. I love Linux and being a computer enthusiast I went through hell to make it work just out of curiosity. I used the likes of Red Hat 7.0 from a book my dad had all the way through the early Fedora Core years burning cd's and getting stuff to work. Through the 2000s in high school I was part of an active computer club, and we literally tried everything from Ubuntu to Knoppix to Yellow Dog on the PS3. All of that struggle was to learn more about it. I used Windows as my main machine at the time, as Linux had literally nothing in terms of gaming and wine was in its infancy. Suffice it to say that I wouldn't be on Linux if it wasn't for my own curiosity and motivation to figure it out. I now encourage people to ask questions and do their best to find answers that help them make better decisions. Linux could be a good decision, but only if they come to that conclusion themselves. Rant is pretty much over, but I have autism, so it's hard to stop, lol. Keep up the good work.
I love the passion of the Linux gamers, but I play games after work to shut my brain off. Which includes Multiplayer games. And an Nvidia Graphics Card. And Games I own that aren't on Steam, but other launchers. Also I really love Windows file paths. With the Drive Letter on the start I always know what Partition I'm writing too. A massive boon if you have a System with both HDDs and SSDs.
The year of the linux desktop is just a meme, all most of us really want is hardware and software support on par with windows xd Aka reduce the barrier to entry to just workflow upheaval xd
The year of the Linux desktop, for me, came and went years ago. I've been daily driving Linux for over three years straight, with it being my sole OS (no dual-booting) for over two of those years. And I had actually been using it off and on for over a decade. Gaming was the one thing holding me back, and was the reason I switched back to Windows from Linux back in 2017. Now that Proton exists, and I can play damn near every game I want to play almost perfectly on Linux, I have zero reason to be on Windows. And thank god, because I do not like Windows 11.
I've been using Arch as a daily driver for over 5 years now, and the only reason I would ever run Windows is to test cross-platform code I've written. Windows has become more and more pushy with Microsoft's spyware nonsense.
This is why as a mainly windows user I still learn Linux on the side so just in case windows forces us to go windows 11. I want the option to avoid windows if windows 11 is going to be stupid.
Honestly I completely agree with you about Flatpaks I've had 3 issues with them because of their sandboxed environment. Discord Rich Presence games not being detected by the application (something I use because my friends send game invites through Discord), Ark not seeing folders for any applications except itself (which was a pain when try to extract my Switch files into Ryujinx. I had to extract them to my downloads and then move them with my file manager), and KdenLive not picking up my MLT library for GPU acceleration (yeah it's not stable but I tend to prefer running unstable stuff, and at least if I have issues with it I know where my issue is likely to lie). All of these were solved by removing them and installing them from apt instead
as a passionate normie despiser, I like to gatekeep to continue fueling my superiority complex. So I got no complaints & fully agree with you. :heart:💙
"why it matter if its 10.000 people or 2 people that agrees with you" i dont know, try to make an video for youtube with just 2 views and see how long you can stay motivated to continue. and the worst part is if its the same 2 people every time, and you know that as result your fight is worthless, because you cant influence new people... 11:42 no , linux dominance dont means it will be the same as windows, at least if its well distributed among many distros (if we dont have an scenario like we have for android). even in the case of an android-like scenario, we still are in better terms, at least we have an rock solid base open source and we can try to de-google our phones with some custom roms or something (or even, use google apps and services but with another rom that didnt came with our devices if we dont like it)
i respectfully disagree on some parts, i have seen large growth in linux in the past few years. Even just in discourse, it feels more present. also the the drop in linux was indeed a fluke, you can see that when you account for language (80% of linux users are using english, and linux is far more popular in the english speaking world), the drop is indeed gone. It's even at 4% in the english world, so it is working, maybe not at the speed people want, and it will probably never be 50 or more %, but it is getting better.
I'm glad you disagree tbh, even if I won't see it the same way. Not denying there isn't growth, but it's still a ways off from mass adoption when you take the laymen into account - until both the GUIs improve, and people become more open to change, it's never going to change overnight. At least one of those problems are software, but the other is a societal problem and who tf knows if that'll change. Thanks for watching!
I agree with what you said...but, let me just add my own anecdote, I know I know: N=1 might as well be 0. Buying my Steam Deck (at the launch of the OLED) made me realize 2 things: 1. Wow, gaming on this Linux machine is a lot easier than years ago when I tried out Linux on my desktop and quickly switched back to Windows, because I refuse to love without my games. 2. Gaming was the only thing keeping me on Windows. So, yes in my personal case, the Steam Deck DID result in me switching off of Windows on the desktop.
Just fully converted to linux and loving it and as someone who recognized both windows market share and the psychology, if all the windows ppl are right linux just may see a major boom in the next two-three years
the worst part about wayland is the fact that the devs throw a temper tantrum over the something simple as letting the application choose where the windows go is baffling, as well the doctrine of wayland being compatible with every would be compositor but not putting its efforts being compatible with existing software of now, and making desktop environment/window manager devs having to make their own implementation of everything is not helping at all.
Human psychology and habit's a bitch. But I don't blame them, it's daunting. Something I HOPE to rectify a little bit to the best of my ability, and Linux (especially in the gaming side) is always improving, but, yeah.
I basically learned computing on Linux, although I in my early computer days only had access to Window$. But that was basically, ask my parents if I can play Audiosurf, start Steam, then Audiosurf and go on to play, after that leave the computer again. When I realized my new RasPi didn't use Window$ I got into Linux and experimented it into hell (average lifetime of RasPiOS installs on my Pi: ~24h). Two or so years ago I banned Window$ out of my life because I simply got used to Linux and each time I touched Window$ it would battle me instead of letting me do my thing. Completely log off a Micro$oft account from Window$? Nope, reinstall or accept that you can't switch accounts. Customize past dark/light mode and accent colour? Nope, do you really believe Window$ was made _for_ the user? I am unfortunately forced to use Window$ occasionally in School (Safe Exam Browser doesn't have a Linux version and doesn't install in Wine because of… reasons?) but otherwise I'm out of the Window$ world. Win7 was the last good Windows.
I think there's a healthy middle ground. Sure, the year of the linux desktop isn't something we should all be chanting about around a fire every month, but it also isn't "never going to happen." I think as people slowly but surely get grossed out by the commercialization of things they like and have no other real options, free software like linux will become at least as mainstream and well understood as the alternatives. Once windows 10 drops support, I think linux numbers will go up a lot. This year, or the next, isn't the year of the fediverse either, but after reddit and twitter, the userbase did expand drastically, and that could happen over and over again.
Interesting! I've switched to dual boot with Mint and Win10 from only Windows. In the last weeks, Mint has developed to my main system. It has lots of stuff that has kinks unfortunately, but I'm also surprised how easy Mint is to use. Also roughly 2/3rds of my games work on Mint thanks to Proton and Lutris
Hopefully you find Mint works to your liking! I used it only for a while, can speak to its quality, though I found I didn't vibe with Debian/Buntu-based systems that much.
+1 for Lutris and also Bottles while using Proton variations. Discovering those apps killed Windows for me. I feel kinda icky whenever I have to boot into W10 lol
Commenting from the future: Linux has rapidly increased in marketshare over the past several months a in February and March was at over 4%. It looks like it dipped to 3.88% in April. Linux looks like it's gaining steam.
This was enjoyable. I think a bit of script editing would be helpful as some of the constructions you use while talking are a little awkward, but that's not a criticism -- I'm exactly the same way. Guessing it's a neurodivergant thing. The editing is well done, and enjoyable to watch while you're making your points. It's a solid video. As far as the point of the video, I mean, you're completely right. Besides that the 'year of the Linux desktop' would arguably be a bad thing for most of the communities who want it. Also, I share your opinion on Flatpaks. They work for me ~50% of the time, versus the standard package manager's stuff working pretty much consistently. I love the *idea* of them. They're just kinda *broken* in my experience.
The year of the Linux will never happen, it will happen over many years. Linux besides fragmentation has no marketing or commercial support. I think more people will adopt it and talk about it as the monopoly companies run out of new ideas and customers then continue to squeeze the existing customers for everything they have. There will be a point where enough people use Linux to where the average person knows someone who uses it and considers it an option. It'll never be ahead of commercial OSs but I can see it someday reaching 10% (which would be amazing) but that won't be for a while. Everything today that Linux Desktop has accomplished with mostly free labor is AMAZING and that's just what it will continue to be.
I agree with you, but surveys are meant to be randomized because it's impossible to accurately collect data from everyone. Because it's optional it would be more likely that underrepresented OS and hardware users would take it. If it was taken by everyone it would be able to be manipulated and fluctuating based on usage instead of hardware ownership. It's probably not perfect and should be more transparent, but it being random isn't the issue.
Hyped for that tutorial series, automatic tools like bottles and proton are all nice and cool, until something goes wrong and I have no idea where to start and what to check and I panic. Currently a deal-breaker for me is that I play a lot of "online fix"-ed games that need to talk to steam and it doesn't seem to work even with the mini-steam install in the same bottle.
Lutris is better than Bottles when it comes to Steam games. The UI is more confusing though. Also the community is a lot bigger than it used to be, I've been gaming exclusively on Linux for the last 3 months, and I've managed to solve every issue by searching ProtonDB, Reddit and the Lutris database.
i dont think we need to have 97% of marketshare to have the year of linux. if windows had 33%, mac 33% and linux 34% that would already be the year of linux desktop. but at the end of the day, what matter is that we can do what we want with our computers, without having to use a single solution from a single vendor in order to play an game or use an software (or even an entire class of softwares like video editors)
The only reason most even care about these numbers is: hardware and software support Adobe famously said they won't support linux because there's no market, as did epic ;) And who doesn't want to plop a new graphics card in and it all just works xd *cough* nvidia *cough*
I once had basement-dweller kinda opinions in regards to Linux and its utter superiority, until Monster Hunter Rise started glitching over a (most probably) bug in the godforsaken NVIDIA drivers that makes it unable to reallocate VRAM. So, now I dualboot Windows for gaming and use Linux for anything else. And it's fine. RIchard Stallman will not haunt me while taking a shit over this, and no one should for that matter.
am i the only linux user who could give less of a shit what other OS people use? Why are so many linux users obsessed with other people using windows? Who cares??? I like Linux, that's why I use Linux. I dont care what other people use.
The reason linux will grow is just microsoft windows 11 ( a windows which no one asked for ) and is been forced to all windows users. I have windows 10 and linux mint debian edition on this laptop and each day login in to windows is becoming harder to me so when windows 10 end its life i will not miss it at all.
The only thing I'm missing on linux is amd hypr-rx. Amd hasn't mentioned if they intend to add support for linux. I have no intent on buying an amd gpu if they dont add support for linux.
Had to look that up to remind myself what it was, but I'm sure AMD might add it. That, or the community's just gonna do the hard work for them, like what seems to happen often for them. For better and for worse, aha.
@@ThatOneSeong They added it to amd adrenalin and they have previously never given support for adrenalin functionality in linux. For example amd relive. It's technically possible to make an open source alternative from scratch but it's harder, you would have to do everything from scratch. You need to implement the motion smoothing from scratch. Which is ironically enough easier to do if you just do it with nvidia instead since nvidia rtx cards have api for motion smoothing. One application that uses nvidia motion smoothing on linux is SVP manager (for videos). I dont know any that use it for games though.
Windows 11 and the theoretical 12 has gone to far for me. When windows 10 hits eol. I'm going Linux full time. As of rn I dual boot at the current moment 80% Linux 20% windows.
Windows would be fine if Michaelsoft didn't just keep FUCKING WITH IT so much wow. Absolutely *baffling* what a simple search gets with regards to "Windows controversy of the week," honestly I was shocked just to find the region-specific browser shit. Like, wut?
I while ago i told my friends that i would only fix lix linux computers. I still have all my friends, but also have so much more time now. Please never let linux become "A Thing". I can barely keep my install running, how am i supposed to service theirs? Also, as long as we are niche, we are kinda safe. Linux is not secure because it is inherently better (well, yeah it is) but because nobody bats an eye to break a desktop system with 0.5% marketshare.
if anticheats gets compatiable and rainbow six siege gets compatiable. I sure as hell gonna make the switch. just dont know to which distro. also what characters from what show were you using in this video?
Using Artix Linux exclusively, and it works fine most of the time, but I had a lot of issues with my hardware, motherboard especially, usb ports not working propertly or not working at all. There are workaround flags and commands I used to make them usable, althought it's not a proper fix and there never will be. My mouse works on one port and it doesn't on other, but when I swap it's place with where keyboard was plugged, they both work?? Also I soft bricked my phone when flashing custom signing keys and ROM, because ports are working, but again there is some issue, it just shows error mid-flashing, I forgot what the message was exacly, no matter which ports I used, back or front, tried most of them, but it flashed perfectly fine from Windows? I have Windows on dual boot but I never really use it. A lot of these little annoyances make me not be able to fully ditch Windows, and that's me because I have patience to deal with this shit, not everyone does. But people also come to Linux with a wrong mindset, they decide to try Linux and then treat it like it's Windows, it's a completly different OS, it doesn't work the same and you will have to learn how it works. One of the reasons I'm not fond of "Windows" like distros.
I would suggest giving Arch a shot. I'm not sure what mainboard you are using, but it is really rare for a motherboard and USB ports to have trouble - most of the chipset drivers are straight from AMD or Intel. So I'm taking a guess and thinking that maybe the Artix kernel defaults are not built with the same "works everywhere" baseline that Arch tries to use.
@@etherweb6796 Arch derivatives, including Artix, work fine if I disable IOMMU Controller or use workaround fix I mentioned. (Disabling IOMMU doesn't work on Ubuntu/Debian based distros, and disabling it introduces it's own issues, like mouse and keyboard randomly disconnecting and freezing, so I just apply workaround fix to every distro I use.) But I still have other funky issues which tend to make me "paranoid", sometimes I'm not sure whether I fucked up something or it's just acting up on it's own. I had things die randomly on it's own even tho I never touched it. That is why I keep using distro as is once installed, I avoid customizing it just not to break anything. I'm on Void Linux now, and I'm gonna stay on it. Decided to try it since it's fully independant systemd-free distro, Artix is Arch with systemd ripped out. It works well, some blurry text issue I had in browsers on any other distros, I don't experience it here on Void for whatever reason. So far so stable, fast, simple, love Void.
@@stalkerscarface Interesting - I've thought about trying void - ultimately I decided against it because the project itself seems like it isn't in active development. Plus (and a lot of the Linux community will vehemently disagree with me) I actually like Systemd - it has a pretty simple syntax for creating units (services) and you can automate all sorts things with simple text files. I've setup an emacs daemon, Docker Compose based services, and even ssh filesystems that get mounted in my home folder when I login. Also, it isn't unheard of to have IOMMU mess things up - my experience is it doesn't work on consumer grade motherboards as well as it should - but unless you are trying to run a Windows VM with GPU passthrough you really don't need it. (IMO, even the VM scenario isn't necessary - for games that absolutely need Windows it is easy enough to add an additional hard drive and dual boot)
@@etherweb6796 I actually like Void because it is independant, and there isn't much to develop, it's pretty minimal distro, apparently akin to BSD since the main developer was BSD developer. I don't hate or dislike systemd itself, althought I don't see point in countless features I don't use. I believe it would be better if systemd didn't try to do as much things as possible all by itself, that it would be better if things were separated, do 1 thing and do it well. I wouldn't mind other functions being avaliable as sort of an extension to systemd if you need them to integrate with each other, but not as one package-do-it-all kind of thing. I rather dislike the dependancy of some apps on systemd exclusively.
In your upcoming Demystifying Linux series, can you do one on the Nix package manager? That's one the only things that I don't think has a good tutorial aimed at your average medium difficulty levels of competency user. I can only find ones for people who are clearly already programmers. Some of us just wanna use it as a regular package manager but on immutable distros.
Individual package managers might be a bit out-of-scope for me? I know I've at least heard of Nix, but I really want to focus more on the actual usability of the system, and not all the backend stuff - there's people bigger than I that have covered those bases, I'm just wanting to cover things from a user-facing perspective. That said, I might want to talk about Flatpak in more detail! There's definitely parts of it I like... and don't like, which might make an interesting tangent if nothing else, aha.
Almost half of Steam Linux users use SteamOS Holo. This proves that Linux is capable of gaming and Linux users buy commercial software. Great news, but these are not Linux desktop users. I have been enjoying watching these statistics for 20 years, just for fun. Linux is my favourite team.
This was fantastic! An honest overview. A very Seong perspective. A reasonable, not-too-short, length of video. Your editing is always improving - and the timing is funny. Also - the release timing probably works for viewer exposure. Looking forward to more penguin powered perspective pieces. Hopefully we can get you a Steamdeck.
I think the main problem with people screeching that the year of linux is finally now due to steam hardware surveys is the fact this would be like counting every playstation on the market as a bsd market share lol. But people will argue with you about it. that is just how dumb it is. The sad reality is Linux won't take off ive heard it all since i was a teenager. macOS won the alternative war and it took it's number to over 30% market share in north america in two years. The rest of the world and especially the linux community seems to be completely ignoring this fact. India seems to be the main market linux is even growing.
So, I have been brought here by algorithm, and I like the channel. I would like to say that you are 50% there, and only if you could not lean into "reddit mod" look so much, I would deffinetly see this channel grow and appeal to normies much more. Great job overall
There isn't a single reason yet for people to adopt linux. Give it time, when it gets polished enough, someone out there will eventually be tricked into trying it, then he'll run as far as possible.
I remember doing a presentation for a class where I started with four headlines about "the year of the Linux desktop", starting with a French one saying that 2005 was going to be it and ending with a Japanese one from 2019 explaining why it never came
I used Windows for the most Part of my live without ever questioning it. It worked as a grew to a Power User Windows just had So many Problems without easy awnsers like bat Script like why do they have Problems with permissions? Why is my PC crashing every few days? Etc. The i tried MacOs(hackintosh) it sucked even more the User interface is so Bad i could not even get kde or cinamon to be that Bad. Everything costs money even i want the ability to tile my Windows like wtf. Now i use Linux for about 2 years i switches distros a couple of times because they kept breaking. Now i use nixos and it just works i can optimise my workflow so extrem that I get about 4x as much done with Linux than with Windows and the best thing is if I encounter a problem i can fix it no matter what it is except Bugs in the nvidia driver. I think that Linux is way better than windows even for beginners yes it might be a little overwelming to get started, which distro do i use etc. But it makes installing Software extremly easy and has a System wide Update. And everything you need for the work day runs on it except addobe but it sucks too.
Wait... Isn't saying linux is growing because the steam deck the same thing most outlets are saying? Sorry for my confusion, but I'm pretty sure they're saying the same thing. Linux is only gaining it's adoption rate and also actually improving, due to the wonderful work of the software engineers at valve that have developed this gaming experience as well as general tools to improve gaming on linux. I think people who say it's the year of the linux desktop don't realize it already is as long as they're using linux on the desktop. Our percentage doesn't matter, as long as a userbase exists, it's the year of the linux desktop.
Linux is improving because of the Deck, but most outlets (at least from the Linux side) roll up Deck with Linux sales - which is the part that I believe is misleading. Still, it is getting better. But to say it's mass adoption ready would be pretty generous - but again, like you say, that isn't exactly the point either. Thanks for watching!
Your experience with Flatpaks is quite unfortunate. I personally do not like to use native packages because they tend to misbehave over time (be it wrong Fonts, missing codecs etc) whereas most times I install a Flatpak I know it will work and it will keep working. I admit, when I started using Linux I didn't mind using vulnerable native packages and even running Arch, but nowadays I just use Fedora with mostly flatpaks and I even use Wayland now, with a Nvidia card, because it's way smoother and i don't need to "hack" my system so certain features work, no tearing and just feels less buggy. However, is true that is not perfect on Nvidia yet, there's still the issue of forced vsync which will be fixed in the next driver update, but i play competitive games daily and really don't see the difference. Maybe I eventually became more easy to please or just prefer to not scratch my head with the old Linux anymore. Nowadays, Linux is in better form that it was, and I have no need for Windows tbh. I'm happy with Linux now.
I feel like I should reiterate that I don't think Flatpaks are inherently bad - they just don't work for my workflow or muscle memory. I never *personally* ran into the prominent issues with native pm's that Flatpak supposedly set out to fix, and that it's ultimately a second, entirely separate package manager that ends up cluttering my already-pretty-close-to-full /home partition. If I could have a separate partition entirely dedicated to Flatpaks, i.e. like my / (root) and /home split I have now, I probably wouldn't mind AS much (portals notwithstanding). But that's space I do kind of need - for reference, I only use three Wine prefixes for all of my non-Steam gaming needs (one for general, another for the shitty other launchers, and a third just to sidestep a current Wine bug for two games) as another space saving measure. As for Wayland... *eh.* I wouldn't use it anyways until the screen recording situation is all figured out. I really don't enjoy using OBS for general recording needs, and having a sudoer prompt pop up every time I want to record on a whim (which I did just an hour earlier prior to writing this, fwiw!) would get really annoying really quick. That seems to be a common *thing* with Wayland I've noticed, as one of the Linux creators I follow has a similar solitary grievance with it that makes it nearly a non-starter when it would be perfectly fine otherwise. Behind the scenes, I kind of spend a lot more time diagnosing and reporting issues for due diligence than I care to admit (it's all like lesser known projects and mods n'stuff, nothing too special, though I did have to report something to Wine recently which was fun), so again it all kinda comes back around to the whole habits and workflow thing, lol. Wow, this was way more than I'd thought I write. Sorry about that! Thanks for watching.
That video was way to nihilistic, where is the energy in that? You're supposed to be more fanatical! Only then will the plebs listen to your guidance and actually switch to Linux. Let's make the Year of Linux a reality. It is possible my friends. I believe!
inb4 the Linux Defense Squad. Just chill, ok? Thanks for watching.
i personally believe that it would take ages for the general public to adopt a linux based os
a shiny fancy macbook, with a 2k pricetag feels waay more appealing to a normie, than a open source OS
there again, china is developing open kylin, a windows and mac replacement , as the chinese gov loses trust in western cooperations.
so if open kylin gets mass adoption in china one day, the market potential for linux software would be really high
@@AIC_onyt I have to use a MacBook for work, and apple delivers a pretty decent Unix like experience. Sure, the drivers and init system are Apple's proprietary software, but it still comes with SSH and zsh on the system. UX wise also MacOS is opinionated, but it can still be customized way more than Windows. Literally the best keybinding available in a commercial OS. (I have a setup where I mimic i3 keybinds and use Amethyst to tile my windows). I still prefer Linux because the system itself is more configurable, but I can see how anyone not inclined to tinker with their OS would pick MacOS over Linux - even if they are a CLI heavy developer.
@@AIC_onyt china isn't capable to develop even simplest tech, they steal everything from corpos and governments. just wait and see how they will use something stolen of from canonical ftp :)
Looking forward to the next video man. You are killing it with the quality
@@AIC_onyt "Continues official support" I feel like that's just what it boils down to at the end of the day. Most people just want stability or the guarantee that the os that had all their precious work and entertainment data just won't suddenly break one day. This is why most normies most likely will stick with SteamOS for the steam deck instead of downloading windows because they have full confidence that valve will most likely support this os for the long-term.
The most amazing move M$ made decades ago: After being declared a monopoly by the government, and declared so in a court of law, they arranged to pay off portions of their fines by donating copies of windows to schools across the entire nation. Cost them pennies per disk (or less when just key lists), allowed them to charge much more per install against their bill, and ensure an entire generation of school kids grew up working on their operating system in a time when they may not even have a home computer. It also guaranteed any computers bought would be windows since that would be what was compatible with what the school used. Losing that court case was possibly the best marketing win M$ could have ever achieved. "Yup, you're a monopoly. Here's a fine you can pay off by indoctrinating an entire generation into using your OS." And so the stage was set for M$ to be the thing everyone was used to ever since. I really don't care of the company or its practices, but still have to admire the brilliance of that move.
Also, didn't they do a similar thing to kill Linux use in the "One Laptop Per Child" charity thing?
Once I read someone's comment along the lines of "the year of the Linux desktop is a personal thing". I agree with that. For me, it was years ago. For someone else, it might be today. For yet another, it could be years from now. It all depends on whether your needs and wants can be met with Linux or not, and that is a very personal question.
That's probably the better way to go about it than just an all-encompassing thing like is usually discussed, tbh.
Because in that case, my year of Linux was last year. Still, it's just an OS - and at the end of the day, what else are OSes but tools?
Now if Michaelsoft would just STOP MESSING WITH THOSE TOOLS and adding ai-driven buttplugs, maybe switching wouldn't be such a hot topic.
@@ThatOneSeong Comes with the territory of being a nerd, me thinks. :p
Yeah, this makes sense. I've thought for a while that there will be no definite article "The" Year, merely stronger and weaker years. Seems like the years are definitely getting stronger though, both on Linux getting much more usable overall AND Windows getting... actively more hostile towards its userbase with each passing year. My year was a couple years ago, but Linux was... not ready for most people, at least as far as gaming -- productivity was generally fine then. Now I can recommend it much more wholeheartedly! The year depends on what you actually want and need and even just when you can put in the (substantial) effort to learn a new workflow, regardless of the 'objective' quality of the options. The 'push' from Windows sucking harder, the 'pull' from Linux getting better from your particular use case, and the opportunity to learn a new thing from scratch (often rare) all have to line up for the particular user for switching to make sense.
Sometimes I get the feeling that on some level, Microsoft doesn't _want_ to be supporting all the world's personal computers, but had the crown fall into their lap and are struggling to monetize that no longer functional position within the market they distorted while not disrupting operations badly enough that governments have to step in and remove them, but can't resist the natural tendency of shareholder corporations to try to make everything theirs and destroy anything they can't control for long enough to disentangle themselves from their own choking success, and as a result they almost... lash out against the users they've been 'unwillingly' saddled with. They can't let go of the addiction to what seems like a monopoly _juuust_ within their grasp, but in their desire to capture everything in a one-size-fits-all way and maintain a white-knuckled grip on all of it at once, they act with what seems like contempt towards everyone and everything that interacts with them. Eventually, the perceived resentment becomes mutual, and their very anti-consumer actions to consolidate power force people away from them. Isn't there a line going around (something Star Wars?), something about "the more they tighten their grip, the more slips through their grasp"? That seems to be the tragedy of Microsoft, to me. Well, a lot of corporate oligarchies, but Microsoft is a really big and 'boring' example. No big executive egos or new technology, just banal Too Big To Fail, too big to manoeuvre (but still needs to be _bigger_ by the next shareholder meeting). Three 'bigs' making an impossible situation that leads to customers getting screwed more each quarter.
It becomes too much for each person at a different time.
I like that. I've been using Linux on and off for like... 20 years now. I've gone back and forth, daily driving Linux for months or a year at a time, but i always end up back in Windows. I have always had livecds of various distros laying around, and these days I keep a ventoy thumb drive with several options on it.
I enjoy tinkering with it, and it's very powerful for certain things. But this video is accurate, I have a lot of momentum in my current setup, it's hard to change.
I've been getting back into Linux though with my steam deck, relearning some stuff.
Idk maybe it's time to try out Linux again on my main PC 👍
One day, Linux will be mainstream. Probably not this year (my year of Linux, personally), but with how solid the support is, I don't doubt that it rises to challenge Windows soon enough.
I mean, I have fewer problems on Mint than I did on Windows!
lol yes. Every other year is "The year of linux" and usually it's for meh reasons. Though, I can't say never. If companies like microsoft stay on the course they are with aggressive advertisement, data harvesting, and opt-out "features" that turn themselves back on silently, the year of "enough is enough" may be upon us eventually.
I've had a Steam deck for about a year now and have loved it. One day I accidentally updated my Windows 10 to 11, it started stuttering BAD (prob some viruses or something). I looked into Mint and have been using that for about 2 months and have no intention to go back to Windows. The deck totally influenced that.
pretty similar experience for me, I've tinkered in the terminal a few times on my Steam Deck with little luck but all that's taught me is Arch is not the right distro for me. I made a mint virtual machine recently to try it out on my PC and when I get a laptop next year I'm planning on going Mint with a gnome desktop. would probably have stayed on windows for much longer if not for the Steam Deck showing me Linux gaming is pretty simple.
Arch is Linux@@filedotnix
This video length is perfect. The editing is on point (I like that news section and the end credit scene). I feel like there has been a lot more improvement from previous videos, but the entirtainment is still fulfilling. I personally think the year of the linux desktop is any year when the users increase. Like "it's Linux's best year yet" every year because its getting more popular.
Nowhere else to go but up, really! (Assuming some other scuffed shit doesn't happen.)
Linux has become user-friendly. I believe this alone will make people try and like how it works. Gaming was the only thing that stopped me from switching over and now it is not an issue for me. Thanks to Steam , Proton and others games are playable without too many problems to overcome.
Which one do you use? I wanna try to game on it
I could be considered an "advanced" computer user but I'm a recent convert to Linux. As an outsider, I think those waist deep in Linux underestimate how important Linux is to the world today as to what technology can be in the future. It's a disruptor. There's no reason to not advocate for systems that are literally free of charge and open source.
As a newcomer learning Linux, I've come to see that I'm really just learning a deeper level of computing that's usually hidden in proprietary OS. I'm learning through one member of the "Unix family" which underpins almost every OS today (even mutants like Windows). I don't find Linux to be unfriendly more than I was previously poorly informed about computing.
more you learn more you'll enjoy the freedom of customization to your Linux OS. there's no turning back :)
I've been hearing "year of Linux " since 2001. I worked at CompUSA and saw a magazine that had that on the cover. Linux is just NOW worth trying for a ex ex-windows user like myself and even then I got a separate SSD just for Linux. I won't let go of windows as a gamer.
I strongly recommend you give both Lutris and Bottles a try. Proton is advancing at a stupidly fast pace. Also, it helps to make your Linux look cool. Mine is aesthetically more pleasing than Windows (I did a YT tutorial that mimics macs) and it's also one of the reasons I prefer it.
Just as a side node, the switch is has nothing todo with bsd, it's an old rumor that doesn't die.
It's actually completelly custom os, that's a rewrite of the 3ds OS.
The rumor comes from the open source licenses, where the FreeBSD license is included, because nintendo borrowed a small part of it for a socket api they make available to applications.
Baby Linux user here (like, a bit over a full 24 hours new) and I'm very much looking forward to your vids. My switch was due to the fall of Twitter and the creepy nosiness of Google and Windows making me much more interested in open-sourced and more private options of pretty much everything. I'm not a heavy gamer with thousands or even hundreds of games, but I'd still like to play the few dozen I have. Videos to help me get them to work/work better/how to troubleshoot would be incredibly helpful! Subbed and looking forward to seeing them. :)
A bit of unsolicited advice if you don't mind. If you are doing something and it becomes complicated. Just ask yourself, what is the Linux way of doing this. Most of the time people bring their knowledge from Windows or MacOS and expect Linux to work the same. It would be like me taking all my years of Linux experience and going to Windows or MacOS and expecting things to be done the same way I'm used to with Linux.
every time I get selected for steam survey I am in Windows. They never select me when I am on Linux which most of the time.
"The year of the Linux desktop" imo, and I'm not talking about the 9x% meme bc for that to happen one of the other os will need to regress to linux current market share and let's be real that will not happen. But the "actual" "year" is to me once Linux will get big enough that outside software companies will view it as profitable enough to support. Once that happens and we get the software support the other os have (hell! I'd settle for like, 70% of it) I'd be happy.
I got forced win11 at work, and as a computer user for longer than I will admit, win11 might be the drop that will make me try Linux again at home. I have tried Linux a few times, with 5 years intervals, but always dropped it because I want to use my computer to solve other tasks and not have tinkering with linux be the main task.
Win11 feels like its going away from standards we have been used to for over a decade to make the UI look nicer. I HATE the new combined taskbar and the compressed rbm contexts menu. Win11 feels like its says "no do it this way" for UX stuff we have been used to for a long time. On top now the "AI" is creeping into office and windows and its both annoying as hell and scary.
So yeah, maybe its time to try Linux again. Even though I dread having to relearn names of tools I use. And its still strange to me that the Linux community can't focus on making it easier to pick the right distro for new users.
Year of Linux will never happen as long as the new user experience is not much more simplified. I work in a specialized area of computer graphics, and I wouldn't be surprised if only 20% of our younger colleagues know how to navigate the disk drive from a command prompt. Average Linux user is much more tech savvy than an average win/mac/mobile user.
I am biased (I've been using Arch for 5 years) but Arch is the best distro to use. Debian and Ubuntu variants have always had trouble with updates and getting the latest versions of software. The installation is a bit of a learning curve, but if you follow the directions exactly, and make sure to open links in a new tab, then it isn't so bad. Once everything is up and running it is super stable. If the installation is too much of a hurdle I recommend Manjaro KDE (Plasma) edition, but then you are trading some stability in updates for convenience.
"The less you give a F, the happier youll be"
People need a reason to switch, I'm used to DOS command line and windows xp made my machine slow to the point where it was barely usable. I had a real material reason to switch and had no choice but to use it as a daily driver. Anytime I want to retro game I use Linux and now that I have started using the Proton layer I'm only using Windows for game pass and Flight Simulator. People choose Windows because it works and usually works well on your machine for years at a time. I just had a cheap wal mart computer in 04.
All I want is for Linux to be big enough that companies stop acting like it doesn't exist. Mac is worse for gaming in almost every aspect, yet Mac ports are still more likely because its overall marketshare is like 5%. If Linux got to that level, PERFECTION.
lol mac market share in north america is over 30%.... thats why linux will never get popular. The alternative has already been decided by the market.
so. fucking. good.
Im excited for the series as much as possible, since i want to switch into linux someday... well when bottles next would come out i guess (since every time i gain enough courage i always found out that there is new app that would elevate the user experience, so i angrily wait until everything comes out haha). Just being an open source nature and so modular (pls include unixporn into that i am a sucker for aesthetic), besides being a thing that you can freely develop to or integrate something inside it... damn that's my dream since i used Windows 7! Hopefully you release it soon so we can all admire the hard work you put in. No joke those documentary/old vibe you give is something that refreshed youtube, for me at least
I've found that Linux is extremely capable at becoming what you need it to be in a particular situation. If you need to build a gaming console that has an efficient kernel and the ability to layer on any kind of UI that you can build, then you can do it. But it takes technical skill and time. It is typically something someone is being paid for. It is the same when operating as a desktop OS. The ability to make it do whatever you want is definitely there, or it is open for development if not.
However, as a software developer myself, I just land in a sort of "eye-roll" moment every time I try it as a desktop OS. It's like... sure... I can absolutely develop a new piece of software to do this thing I'm used to, but I can't be bothered. And thus, Linux itself will never have its year. Because as optimistic as I and my other peers in the software industry are, I just don't feel like doing it.
Ooh, I'm excited for the series. Been using Linux (Mint, mostly) for years now, but I feel I never really properly 'learned' it. It's just that Windows got too... generally bad and too difficult to wrangle into doing what I wanted and too untrustworthy to feel good about using, and I could see that all the issues I had were getting increasingly worse over time and weren't going to reverse, so I started dual-booting and used Windows less and less as Wine/Proton/etc. improved, and one day I accidentally broke my Windows 7 partition and just... never reinstalled it. Learning more formal stuff about the common command-line utilities (useful, but not very discoverable except through randomly poking 'apropos' or searching your package manager), setting environment variables, and the like would be really useful for me.
I remember with the OLD versions of Windows (95, ME) I first really learned computers on I became seen as a 'technical' person because I read all the manuals and poked into every menu and could usually figure out how to make software do what someone wanted (the version of ME we had even actively encouraged personalisation like custom retheming of the UI, with a big package of styles to mix and match components from). Eventually Windows began actively resisting attempts to explore and tweak things, hiding functionality from the users, leaving things undocumented, and it was just more hassle than it was worth. I've been learning Linux in a similar intuitive way since (though these days we generally have either online documentation or textmode man/info files rather than the local hypertext manuals [.chm?] things had in the Win9X days. Still better than the general NO documentation/"don't worry your pretty little head about that" stuff modern Windows has. It's kind of frightening how copy-pasted and boilerplate Microsoft patch notes or error code lookups are. The majority of the time, it seems there's just... no information, they made a record for the thing but redacted out all the information.
Something like "Security update F7E6921 for Product(tm)(r)": "This is an important security update for Product(tm)(r). It is important to system security to install this update." seems to be all you get as far as update descriptions in Windows, and error codes don't seem any better (I thought after Therac-25 we as an industry all agreed that obscure error codes with no obvious cause/severity info and no user-accessible lookup table were bad!). It's important to me to have computers that are both honest (tell me what's going on) and obedient (do what I want them to, rather than some other party), and for that I had to switch, but I still have a sort of 'imposter syndrome' about myself as a "Linux User".
Honestly, my ability (and willingness) to read manuals is apparently still a big asset, it got me made PC Hardware Person of the house recently after unwillingness to read manuals caused embarrassing repeated damage for the previous (older generation) Technical Master Of All Trades. (PSA: Read both the motherboard AND THE CPU COOLER MANUAL when setting up a PC. CPU sockets are delicate, and you do NOT want to squish the CPU down millimetres more than intended by setting up a CPU cooler with the wrong mounting hardware. Plus, motherboard manuals are just fun reading. You learn so much about so many obscure features you didn't know your machine had! It's nostalgic for me, like when I was exploring computers for the first time and looking through the huge array of Packard Bell bundle-in disks and peripherals and manuals.)
Just discovered your videos and been loving 'em. Keep up the good work !
it would be hell for linux and us as users if it truly becomes "popular". look at history, after becoming famous, everything gets ruined for the end users.
Man, you got points just for the mischief makers song from the beginning.
The reason i do not use linux already is, because it's unsupported by many games... But the reason many games are unsupported is, because there aren't enough linux users
The thing is, the answer to why one should switch to linux isnt a good reason to learn another operating system. Its not worth the effort if everythings working already. Its has high risks such as a game or program wont work and there is no reward. Why bother fix something, if it isnt broke.
I have used both linux and windows so dont tell me that im not respecting my own privacy by using windows or something, there are solutions to this in windows such as using a 3rd party firewall. But if a game doesnt work, you have no solution until devs fix it. Its like using a beta software. No thank you.
About the wayland thing, gpu screen recorder works fine with plasma wayland, never had to give it root access, only issue is no global hotkeys but you can just add gpu-screen-recorder [arguments and stuff] command as a shortcut. I know wayland still has its other issues but id thought id let you know.
Waylands main problem is that the devs limited the scope early on and ended up with it being too limited (only a display protocol) and this left a huge gap between what xorg provides and Wayland's core focus - now desktop environments like Plasma, Gnome, and even some projects like Sway are adding back that functionality but sometimes stepping on each other's toes. (Screen sharing is an excellent example)
12:30 i am really hyped for the series. I am in the process myself rn and think it'd be very interesting to see your journey
Found your content yesterday and I'm glad I did.
It's seem very rare to find a Linux user with reasonable views on stuff like this online sometimes and its good to know some exist.
Thank you very much for your support! It's all tools at the end of the day, so no need to get super invested in it imo.
This hardware survey is so wrong, I on that last month got surveyed 3 to 4 times when I was distro hopping
You are one of the more level headed individuals i seen cover Linux
I feel like a lot of Linux's "oddities" and differences from Windows could be solved at the shell/desktop environment level. Like, map every mountable partitions to drive letters, kinda like in Windows, hide the scary / file system (kinda what OSX is doing), have wine installed and configured by default so exes can run, as well as Mono/.NET Core to run .NET exes, etc. as well as GUI frontends for the console commands people may commonly use.
Like, the stuff like mounting partitions to arbitrary directories, / file system, terminal, etc. would be still available if you need/want it, but you wouldn't need to interact with it if you don't have to.
There are distros that have done all that. Lindows I vaguely remember as one of them.
I opt out of the steam hardware survey. I don't want to share my personnel information. Or location. I could be on Mars typing this down right now.
that is not being random, that is how statistics work, you dont get an sample rate of 100% of the population for anything, proportion of male to female in a population, size of the population, proportion of black/white people, proportion of english speakers or french in canada... you dont interview 100% of the population, you get an sample and that is enough to make an pretty accurate estimation (so long as your sample is distributed correctly)
I understand where you come from. I don't use Wayland and have been in the GE servers and the amount of errors on Wayland is hilarious. I've heard peeps insist on it over and over again and trip up every 5 minutes. I've been on Mint 21.2 for the past year or so and it is fast and efficient. Likewise, I love your take on looking at it more as tool chains and habits. People do fear what they don't understand, and including that is an important part of improving support and helping people to ask relevant questions such as "What am I using my computer for?" and "Can Linux make what I do easier?". Also, privacy I think is only a secondary reason to switch. Linux in my view requires a growth mindset and an intent to learn more about your computer in general. It is okay that there are groups of people out there that don't want to put in that effort, as their effort is already going in other directions. I think the true way to market Linux is that it is a great way to learn about how computers work, and then you get to build something awesome in the process that is better tailored to what you want to do with it. I love Linux and being a computer enthusiast I went through hell to make it work just out of curiosity. I used the likes of Red Hat 7.0 from a book my dad had all the way through the early Fedora Core years burning cd's and getting stuff to work. Through the 2000s in high school I was part of an active computer club, and we literally tried everything from Ubuntu to Knoppix to Yellow Dog on the PS3. All of that struggle was to learn more about it. I used Windows as my main machine at the time, as Linux had literally nothing in terms of gaming and wine was in its infancy. Suffice it to say that I wouldn't be on Linux if it wasn't for my own curiosity and motivation to figure it out. I now encourage people to ask questions and do their best to find answers that help them make better decisions. Linux could be a good decision, but only if they come to that conclusion themselves. Rant is pretty much over, but I have autism, so it's hard to stop, lol. Keep up the good work.
Your videos are such good quality bro… glad I subbed.
Extemist who say "whoa linux for everybody" would complain that "damm normies ruined linux"
Different people.
I love the passion of the Linux gamers, but I play games after work to shut my brain off. Which includes Multiplayer games. And an Nvidia Graphics Card. And Games I own that aren't on Steam, but other launchers.
Also I really love Windows file paths. With the Drive Letter on the start I always know what Partition I'm writing too. A massive boon if you have a System with both HDDs and SSDs.
The year of the linux desktop is just a meme, all most of us really want is hardware and software support on par with windows xd
Aka reduce the barrier to entry to just workflow upheaval xd
I came here for the C2 keyboard and stayed for the Tales and good edits.
Glad i found this channnel, look forward to the "linux for dummies" videos LUL
The year of the Linux desktop, for me, came and went years ago. I've been daily driving Linux for over three years straight, with it being my sole OS (no dual-booting) for over two of those years. And I had actually been using it off and on for over a decade. Gaming was the one thing holding me back, and was the reason I switched back to Windows from Linux back in 2017. Now that Proton exists, and I can play damn near every game I want to play almost perfectly on Linux, I have zero reason to be on Windows. And thank god, because I do not like Windows 11.
I've been using Arch as a daily driver for over 5 years now, and the only reason I would ever run Windows is to test cross-platform code I've written. Windows has become more and more pushy with Microsoft's spyware nonsense.
I honestly only care about software support, that's all.
Yeah I'm 99% sure that statcounter thinks my linux install is windows
This is why as a mainly windows user I still learn Linux on the side so just in case windows forces us to go windows 11. I want the option to avoid windows if windows 11 is going to be stupid.
Intelligence 100 move here.
Shame that the Windows 11 stupid is spreading back to Windows 10 while it's slowly dying as it is... :
@@ThatOneSeong I always say to myself that when companies get stupid they must be allergic to money. 😁
I did a similar thing to avoid Windows 8. I'm now a full-time Mint user!
@@05Matz I really like Mint.
Watching this on a TV with a docked steam deck...
Also, imagine a handheld running TempleOS lol
Honestly I completely agree with you about Flatpaks
I've had 3 issues with them because of their sandboxed environment. Discord Rich Presence games not being detected by the application (something I use because my friends send game invites through Discord), Ark not seeing folders for any applications except itself (which was a pain when try to extract my Switch files into Ryujinx. I had to extract them to my downloads and then move them with my file manager), and KdenLive not picking up my MLT library for GPU acceleration (yeah it's not stable but I tend to prefer running unstable stuff, and at least if I have issues with it I know where my issue is likely to lie). All of these were solved by removing them and installing them from apt instead
as a passionate normie despiser, I like to gatekeep to continue fueling my superiority complex.
So I got no complaints & fully agree with you.
:heart:💙
"why it matter if its 10.000 people or 2 people that agrees with you"
i dont know, try to make an video for youtube with just 2 views and see how long you can stay motivated to continue.
and the worst part is if its the same 2 people every time, and you know that as result your fight is worthless, because you cant influence new people...
11:42
no , linux dominance dont means it will be the same as windows, at least if its well distributed among many distros (if we dont have an scenario like we have for android).
even in the case of an android-like scenario, we still are in better terms, at least we have an rock solid base open source and we can try to de-google our phones with some custom roms or something (or even, use google apps and services but with another rom that didnt came with our devices if we dont like it)
Just found your channel. I like it and your takes. You have a very similar linux experience and background as I. I run arch btw.
One of the difficulties I have when I am trying out Linux is the file system.
Falls out of any logic that I am used to.
i respectfully disagree on some parts, i have seen large growth in linux in the past few years. Even just in discourse, it feels more present.
also the the drop in linux was indeed a fluke, you can see that when you account for language (80% of linux users are using english, and linux is far more popular in the english speaking world), the drop is indeed gone. It's even at 4% in the english world, so it is working, maybe not at the speed people want, and it will probably never be 50 or more %, but it is getting better.
I'm glad you disagree tbh, even if I won't see it the same way.
Not denying there isn't growth, but it's still a ways off from mass adoption when you take the laymen into account - until both the GUIs improve, and people become more open to change, it's never going to change overnight. At least one of those problems are software, but the other is a societal problem and who tf knows if that'll change.
Thanks for watching!
I am just waiting for hdr to be fully supported then i am switching to steam deck os on my main rig.
I agree with what you said...but, let me just add my own anecdote, I know I know: N=1 might as well be 0.
Buying my Steam Deck (at the launch of the OLED) made me realize 2 things:
1. Wow, gaming on this Linux machine is a lot easier than years ago when I tried out Linux on my desktop and quickly switched back to Windows, because I refuse to love without my games.
2. Gaming was the only thing keeping me on Windows.
So, yes in my personal case, the Steam Deck DID result in me switching off of Windows on the desktop.
Just fully converted to linux and loving it and as someone who recognized both windows market share and the psychology, if all the windows ppl are right linux just may see a major boom in the next two-three years
*windows bloggers, youtubers, tech journalist etc.
the worst part about wayland is the fact that the devs throw a temper tantrum over the something simple as letting the application choose where the windows go is baffling, as well the doctrine of wayland being compatible with every would be compositor but not putting its efforts being compatible with existing software of now, and making desktop environment/window manager devs having to make their own implementation of everything is not helping at all.
7:45 That was the first time i heard about KDE Disk Partitioner, but i used GParted a lot
my personal opinion, the year of linux will be the day that people lose the fear to use it.
Human psychology and habit's a bitch. But I don't blame them, it's daunting.
Something I HOPE to rectify a little bit to the best of my ability, and Linux (especially in the gaming side) is always improving, but, yeah.
@@ThatOneSeong yep, human psicology doesn't like change, not even the slightest one.
I basically learned computing on Linux, although I in my early computer days only had access to Window$. But that was basically, ask my parents if I can play Audiosurf, start Steam, then Audiosurf and go on to play, after that leave the computer again.
When I realized my new RasPi didn't use Window$ I got into Linux and experimented it into hell (average lifetime of RasPiOS installs on my Pi: ~24h). Two or so years ago I banned Window$ out of my life because I simply got used to Linux and each time I touched Window$ it would battle me instead of letting me do my thing. Completely log off a Micro$oft account from Window$? Nope, reinstall or accept that you can't switch accounts. Customize past dark/light mode and accent colour? Nope, do you really believe Window$ was made _for_ the user?
I am unfortunately forced to use Window$ occasionally in School (Safe Exam Browser doesn't have a Linux version and doesn't install in Wine because of… reasons?) but otherwise I'm out of the Window$ world. Win7 was the last good Windows.
I think there's a healthy middle ground. Sure, the year of the linux desktop isn't something we should all be chanting about around a fire every month, but it also isn't "never going to happen." I think as people slowly but surely get grossed out by the commercialization of things they like and have no other real options, free software like linux will become at least as mainstream and well understood as the alternatives. Once windows 10 drops support, I think linux numbers will go up a lot. This year, or the next, isn't the year of the fediverse either, but after reddit and twitter, the userbase did expand drastically, and that could happen over and over again.
10:08 I actually have the same struggle and glad that I'm not alone with this
Interesting! I've switched to dual boot with Mint and Win10 from only Windows. In the last weeks, Mint has developed to my main system. It has lots of stuff that has kinks unfortunately, but I'm also surprised how easy Mint is to use. Also roughly 2/3rds of my games work on Mint thanks to Proton and Lutris
Hopefully you find Mint works to your liking! I used it only for a while, can speak to its quality, though I found I didn't vibe with Debian/Buntu-based systems that much.
+1 for Lutris and also Bottles while using Proton variations. Discovering those apps killed Windows for me. I feel kinda icky whenever I have to boot into W10 lol
Commenting from the future: Linux has rapidly increased in marketshare over the past several months a in February and March was at over 4%. It looks like it dipped to 3.88% in April. Linux looks like it's gaining steam.
This was enjoyable. I think a bit of script editing would be helpful as some of the constructions you use while talking are a little awkward, but that's not a criticism -- I'm exactly the same way. Guessing it's a neurodivergant thing. The editing is well done, and enjoyable to watch while you're making your points. It's a solid video.
As far as the point of the video, I mean, you're completely right. Besides that the 'year of the Linux desktop' would arguably be a bad thing for most of the communities who want it. Also, I share your opinion on Flatpaks. They work for me ~50% of the time, versus the standard package manager's stuff working pretty much consistently. I love the *idea* of them. They're just kinda *broken* in my experience.
The year of the Linux will never happen, it will happen over many years. Linux besides fragmentation has no marketing or commercial support. I think more people will adopt it and talk about it as the monopoly companies run out of new ideas and customers then continue to squeeze the existing customers for everything they have.
There will be a point where enough people use Linux to where the average person knows someone who uses it and considers it an option. It'll never be ahead of commercial OSs but I can see it someday reaching 10% (which would be amazing) but that won't be for a while.
Everything today that Linux Desktop has accomplished with mostly free labor is AMAZING and that's just what it will continue to be.
I've had a great time with EndeavourOS as well in the last few years
I agree with you, but surveys are meant to be randomized because it's impossible to accurately collect data from everyone.
Because it's optional it would be more likely that underrepresented OS and hardware users would take it.
If it was taken by everyone it would be able to be manipulated and fluctuating based on usage instead of hardware ownership.
It's probably not perfect and should be more transparent, but it being random isn't the issue.
Hyped for that tutorial series, automatic tools like bottles and proton are all nice and cool, until something goes wrong and I have no idea where to start and what to check and I panic. Currently a deal-breaker for me is that I play a lot of "online fix"-ed games that need to talk to steam and it doesn't seem to work even with the mini-steam install in the same bottle.
Lutris is better than Bottles when it comes to Steam games. The UI is more confusing though. Also the community is a lot bigger than it used to be, I've been gaming exclusively on Linux for the last 3 months, and I've managed to solve every issue by searching ProtonDB, Reddit and the Lutris database.
i dont think we need to have 97% of marketshare to have the year of linux.
if windows had 33%, mac 33% and linux 34% that would already be the year of linux desktop.
but at the end of the day, what matter is that we can do what we want with our computers, without having to use a single solution from a single vendor in order to play an game or use an software (or even an entire class of softwares like video editors)
The only reason most even care about these numbers is: hardware and software support
Adobe famously said they won't support linux because there's no market, as did epic ;)
And who doesn't want to plop a new graphics card in and it all just works xd *cough* nvidia *cough*
I switched my dad over to Linux a decade ago. He's had no trouble using it even though he was basically computer illiterate.
what distro?
I once had basement-dweller kinda opinions in regards to Linux and its utter superiority, until Monster Hunter Rise started glitching over a (most probably) bug in the godforsaken NVIDIA drivers that makes it unable to reallocate VRAM. So, now I dualboot Windows for gaming and use Linux for anything else. And it's fine. RIchard Stallman will not haunt me while taking a shit over this, and no one should for that matter.
7:50 huh.. didn’t gparted allow the same thing? I don’t use it anymore since I mostly use KDE but I think gparted allowed management of fstab and such
linux desktop year will be right next after half life 3 release
Linux is not even close to mainstream but gawd I desperately want it to be, I fucking hate Windows and I want more support to Linux.
I thought I'm the only dinosaur who prefers xorg to wayland.
am i the only linux user who could give less of a shit what other OS people use? Why are so many linux users obsessed with other people using windows? Who cares??? I like Linux, that's why I use Linux. I dont care what other people use.
The reason linux will grow is just microsoft windows 11 ( a windows which no one asked for ) and is been forced to all windows users. I have windows 10 and linux mint debian edition on this laptop and each day login in to windows is becoming harder to me so when windows 10 end its life i will not miss it at all.
The only thing I'm missing on linux is amd hypr-rx. Amd hasn't mentioned if they intend to add support for linux. I have no intent on buying an amd gpu if they dont add support for linux.
Had to look that up to remind myself what it was, but I'm sure AMD might add it.
That, or the community's just gonna do the hard work for them, like what seems to happen often for them. For better and for worse, aha.
@@ThatOneSeong They added it to amd adrenalin and they have previously never given support for adrenalin functionality in linux. For example amd relive. It's technically possible to make an open source alternative from scratch but it's harder, you would have to do everything from scratch. You need to implement the motion smoothing from scratch. Which is ironically enough easier to do if you just do it with nvidia instead since nvidia rtx cards have api for motion smoothing. One application that uses nvidia motion smoothing on linux is SVP manager (for videos). I dont know any that use it for games though.
Windows 11 and the theoretical 12 has gone to far for me. When windows 10 hits eol. I'm going Linux full time. As of rn I dual boot at the current moment 80% Linux 20% windows.
Windows would be fine if Michaelsoft didn't just keep FUCKING WITH IT so much wow.
Absolutely *baffling* what a simple search gets with regards to "Windows controversy of the week," honestly I was shocked just to find the region-specific browser shit. Like, wut?
I while ago i told my friends that i would only fix lix linux computers. I still have all my friends, but also have so much more time now.
Please never let linux become "A Thing". I can barely keep my install running, how am i supposed to service theirs?
Also, as long as we are niche, we are kinda safe. Linux is not secure because it is inherently better (well, yeah it is) but because nobody bats an eye to break a desktop system with 0.5% marketshare.
To further emphasis the point about people not caring what their system is running, all android phones run linux, android is just a linux "distro" lol
if anticheats gets compatiable and rainbow six siege gets compatiable. I sure as hell gonna make the switch. just dont know to which distro.
also what characters from what show were you using in this video?
2:48 Wouldn't Linux gamers using Wine/Lutris/Bottles be tallied as Windows users though?
No mijito
Using Artix Linux exclusively, and it works fine most of the time, but I had a lot of issues with my hardware, motherboard especially, usb ports not working propertly or not working at all.
There are workaround flags and commands I used to make them usable, althought it's not a proper fix and there never will be. My mouse works on one port and it doesn't on other, but when I swap it's place with where keyboard was plugged, they both work??
Also I soft bricked my phone when flashing custom signing keys and ROM, because ports are working, but again there is some issue, it just shows error mid-flashing, I forgot what the message was exacly, no matter which ports I used, back or front, tried most of them, but it flashed perfectly fine from Windows? I have Windows on dual boot but I never really use it.
A lot of these little annoyances make me not be able to fully ditch Windows, and that's me because I have patience to deal with this shit, not everyone does. But people also come to Linux with a wrong mindset, they decide to try Linux and then treat it like it's Windows, it's a completly different OS, it doesn't work the same and you will have to learn how it works. One of the reasons I'm not fond of "Windows" like distros.
I would suggest giving Arch a shot. I'm not sure what mainboard you are using, but it is really rare for a motherboard and USB ports to have trouble - most of the chipset drivers are straight from AMD or Intel. So I'm taking a guess and thinking that maybe the Artix kernel defaults are not built with the same "works everywhere" baseline that Arch tries to use.
@@etherweb6796 Arch derivatives, including Artix, work fine if I disable IOMMU Controller or use workaround fix I mentioned.
(Disabling IOMMU doesn't work on Ubuntu/Debian based distros, and disabling it introduces it's own issues, like mouse and keyboard randomly disconnecting and freezing, so I just apply workaround fix to every distro I use.)
But I still have other funky issues which tend to make me "paranoid", sometimes I'm not sure whether I fucked up something or it's just acting up on it's own. I had things die randomly on it's own even tho I never touched it. That is why I keep using distro as is once installed, I avoid customizing it just not to break anything.
I'm on Void Linux now, and I'm gonna stay on it. Decided to try it since it's fully independant systemd-free distro, Artix is Arch with systemd ripped out.
It works well, some blurry text issue I had in browsers on any other distros, I don't experience it here on Void for whatever reason.
So far so stable, fast, simple, love Void.
@@stalkerscarface Interesting - I've thought about trying void - ultimately I decided against it because the project itself seems like it isn't in active development. Plus (and a lot of the Linux community will vehemently disagree with me) I actually like Systemd - it has a pretty simple syntax for creating units (services) and you can automate all sorts things with simple text files. I've setup an emacs daemon, Docker Compose based services, and even ssh filesystems that get mounted in my home folder when I login.
Also, it isn't unheard of to have IOMMU mess things up - my experience is it doesn't work on consumer grade motherboards as well as it should - but unless you are trying to run a Windows VM with GPU passthrough you really don't need it. (IMO, even the VM scenario isn't necessary - for games that absolutely need Windows it is easy enough to add an additional hard drive and dual boot)
@@etherweb6796 I actually like Void because it is independant, and there isn't much to develop, it's pretty minimal distro, apparently akin to BSD since the main developer was BSD developer.
I don't hate or dislike systemd itself, althought I don't see point in countless features I don't use. I believe it would be better if systemd didn't try to do as much things as possible all by itself, that it would be better if things were separated, do 1 thing and do it well. I wouldn't mind other functions being avaliable as sort of an extension to systemd if you need them to integrate with each other, but not as one package-do-it-all kind of thing.
I rather dislike the dependancy of some apps on systemd exclusively.
In your upcoming Demystifying Linux series, can you do one on the Nix package manager? That's one the only things that I don't think has a good tutorial aimed at your average medium difficulty levels of competency user. I can only find ones for people who are clearly already programmers. Some of us just wanna use it as a regular package manager but on immutable distros.
Individual package managers might be a bit out-of-scope for me? I know I've at least heard of Nix, but I really want to focus more on the actual usability of the system, and not all the backend stuff - there's people bigger than I that have covered those bases, I'm just wanting to cover things from a user-facing perspective.
That said, I might want to talk about Flatpak in more detail! There's definitely parts of it I like... and don't like, which might make an interesting tangent if nothing else, aha.
@@ThatOneSeong That's fine, don't worry. It's your channel, do as you please.
Almost half of Steam Linux users use SteamOS Holo. This proves that Linux is capable of gaming and Linux users buy commercial software. Great news, but these are not Linux desktop users.
I have been enjoying watching these statistics for 20 years, just for fun. Linux is my favourite team.
This was fantastic!
An honest overview. A very Seong perspective. A reasonable, not-too-short, length of video. Your editing is always improving - and the timing is funny. Also - the release timing probably works for viewer exposure.
Looking forward to more penguin powered perspective pieces. Hopefully we can get you a Steamdeck.
I'm convinced I might actually die if I ever come in possession of one. xD
I think the main problem with people screeching that the year of linux is finally now due to steam hardware surveys is the fact this would be like counting every playstation on the market as a bsd market share lol. But people will argue with you about it. that is just how dumb it is. The sad reality is Linux won't take off ive heard it all since i was a teenager. macOS won the alternative war and it took it's number to over 30% market share in north america in two years. The rest of the world and especially the linux community seems to be completely ignoring this fact. India seems to be the main market linux is even growing.
Already half of all the game run on Linux.
So, I have been brought here by algorithm, and I like the channel. I would like to say that you are 50% there, and only if you could not lean into "reddit mod" look so much, I would deffinetly see this channel grow and appeal to normies much more. Great job overall
flatpacks and snaps are considered broken on garuda, i run garuda gnome, so yeah
There isn't a single reason yet for people to adopt linux.
Give it time, when it gets polished enough, someone out there will eventually be tricked into trying it, then he'll run as far as possible.
0:43 30 percent? i dont get it
I remember doing a presentation for a class where I started with four headlines about "the year of the Linux desktop", starting with a French one saying that 2005 was going to be it and ending with a Japanese one from 2019 explaining why it never came
I used Windows for the most Part of my live without ever questioning it. It worked as a grew to a Power User Windows just had So many Problems without easy awnsers like bat Script like why do they have Problems with permissions? Why is my PC crashing every few days? Etc. The i tried MacOs(hackintosh) it sucked even more the User interface is so Bad i could not even get kde or cinamon to be that Bad. Everything costs money even i want the ability to tile my Windows like wtf. Now i use Linux for about 2 years i switches distros a couple of times because they kept breaking. Now i use nixos and it just works i can optimise my workflow so extrem that I get about 4x as much done with Linux than with Windows and the best thing is if I encounter a problem i can fix it no matter what it is except Bugs in the nvidia driver. I think that Linux is way better than windows even for beginners yes it might be a little overwelming to get started, which distro do i use etc. But it makes installing Software extremly easy and has a System wide Update. And everything you need for the work day runs on it except addobe but it sucks too.
Wait... Isn't saying linux is growing because the steam deck the same thing most outlets are saying? Sorry for my confusion, but I'm pretty sure they're saying the same thing. Linux is only gaining it's adoption rate and also actually improving, due to the wonderful work of the software engineers at valve that have developed this gaming experience as well as general tools to improve gaming on linux. I think people who say it's the year of the linux desktop don't realize it already is as long as they're using linux on the desktop. Our percentage doesn't matter, as long as a userbase exists, it's the year of the linux desktop.
Linux is improving because of the Deck, but most outlets (at least from the Linux side) roll up Deck with Linux sales - which is the part that I believe is misleading.
Still, it is getting better. But to say it's mass adoption ready would be pretty generous - but again, like you say, that isn't exactly the point either.
Thanks for watching!
The only reason i dont use linux is the anti cheats of games
But I have been easily able to run any game i want in Proton GE
Your experience with Flatpaks is quite unfortunate. I personally do not like to use native packages because they tend to misbehave over time (be it wrong Fonts, missing codecs etc) whereas most times I install a Flatpak I know it will work and it will keep working. I admit, when I started using Linux I didn't mind using vulnerable native packages and even running Arch, but nowadays I just use Fedora with mostly flatpaks and I even use Wayland now, with a Nvidia card, because it's way smoother and i don't need to "hack" my system so certain features work, no tearing and just feels less buggy.
However, is true that is not perfect on Nvidia yet, there's still the issue of forced vsync which will be fixed in the next driver update, but i play competitive games daily and really don't see the difference.
Maybe I eventually became more easy to please or just prefer to not scratch my head with the old Linux anymore.
Nowadays, Linux is in better form that it was, and I have no need for Windows tbh. I'm happy with Linux now.
I feel like I should reiterate that I don't think Flatpaks are inherently bad - they just don't work for my workflow or muscle memory. I never *personally* ran into the prominent issues with native pm's that Flatpak supposedly set out to fix, and that it's ultimately a second, entirely separate package manager that ends up cluttering my already-pretty-close-to-full /home partition.
If I could have a separate partition entirely dedicated to Flatpaks, i.e. like my / (root) and /home split I have now, I probably wouldn't mind AS much (portals notwithstanding). But that's space I do kind of need - for reference, I only use three Wine prefixes for all of my non-Steam gaming needs (one for general, another for the shitty other launchers, and a third just to sidestep a current Wine bug for two games) as another space saving measure.
As for Wayland... *eh.* I wouldn't use it anyways until the screen recording situation is all figured out. I really don't enjoy using OBS for general recording needs, and having a sudoer prompt pop up every time I want to record on a whim (which I did just an hour earlier prior to writing this, fwiw!) would get really annoying really quick. That seems to be a common *thing* with Wayland I've noticed, as one of the Linux creators I follow has a similar solitary grievance with it that makes it nearly a non-starter when it would be perfectly fine otherwise.
Behind the scenes, I kind of spend a lot more time diagnosing and reporting issues for due diligence than I care to admit (it's all like lesser known projects and mods n'stuff, nothing too special, though I did have to report something to Wine recently which was fun), so again it all kinda comes back around to the whole habits and workflow thing, lol.
Wow, this was way more than I'd thought I write. Sorry about that! Thanks for watching.
That video was way to nihilistic, where is the energy in that? You're supposed to be more fanatical! Only then will the plebs listen to your guidance and actually switch to Linux. Let's make the Year of Linux a reality. It is possible my friends. I believe!