Could you do a video explaining why The Doors didn’t do Woodstock, someone said they didn’t do it because they didn’t like playing outdoor gigs but in 1970 they played Isle of Wight which is, last time I checked, an outdoor gig
Did you ever do a video about the Judgement Night soundtrack? Every song was a collaboration between a rock group and a rap group. It was basically the flashpoint for NuMetal.
There is reportedly a stash of songs done with the four original members of Van Halen from studio time about 20 years ago. Never released, but rumored to be pretty good. Of course, the kings of Howdy Doody Mountain (Ed and Al) buried them. This would be cool to know more about.
I attended several of these shows and every one was FREAKIN’ AWESOME!! The crowds were really into it and Ian was great. Anyone who says otherwise probably wasn’t there.
I agree and have the double cd that they sold THAT NIGHT of the show to prove it. We met Ian afterwards by chance in a hallway of the casino (it was his birthday) and he was so humble and gracious. I asked him about Billy Duffy, and he said "I never talk to him anymore" with a sad look. A year later (or two?) BOOM The Cult are back. The Doors show was wicked awesome, Robbie was playing great, so was Ray, Ian sounded fantastic, and the riddim section was tight (they added a bass) there were great videos and lighting, EVERYTHING about that show was great (2004/ 2005?) Any one can have an opinion. Mine is made from experience.
More so given the fact that she introduced him to Jean De Breteuil and that she totally knew how he died and it was not in the apartment bathtub but in a pub bathroom...
Morrison, Kreiger, Densmore , and Manzarek made more than a deal or a contract...It was a promise and oath between young friends who would come together and unite into one of the biggest bands in the world. Jim’s dad never believed in - and his music and poetry - until when he was close to his death from this world (not sure what Jim’s mother thought about Jim?). Pam’s family……well…who knows? Money was being thrown all around from the band to extended family. Jim’s image was seemingly whored out as a means of helping advertise. The Doors were over by 1972 Anyhoo. And now, the Doors are closed.
I saw them at Wembley Arena, and they were brilliant. To have the opportunity to even see part of the band was an honour and completely disrespectful to say otherwise
He finally realized how much of an impact his son made on the world and it still shocks him because he still thinks his own son can't sing, but hey at least I'm getting a his money
My brother actually worked with the band on this tour. He realized a lifelong dream by jamming with Ray and Robbie. The show I got to see was great. Stewart Copeland brought such an energy to the performance. It did have that "tribute band with the original members" vibe, but the spirit of Jim was there. It was good for a while there.
Oh mannnn I am so jealous. Ray is and was my hero. I never got to meet him, but back in 2000 I got to talk to him on a radio show. I was 16 and totally star struck, but I managed to thank him for getting me into Muddy Waters.
@@natalielastname1117 Cool. Yea Ray seemed like such a pleasant enthusiastic man. There’s a vid on here I think it’s called “Ray manzerak in Venice beach” it rules. I watch it still time to time he describes his memories so well.
@@flight4203 Even worse, the point isn't even relevant because it wasn't the hippie generation who did it at all- the parents were the generation _before_ the hippies. Blaming the hippies would be like blaming the millennials for what generation _x_ is doing.
I attended the show in Zurich and I found it amazing. Astbury did not just do a simple cover of the songs but made them sound different according to his unique style which gave the whole show a vibe of respect to Jim Morrison as he just didn't try to copy it. It was an amazing show and too bad all these people had to go through this legal mess to bring the Doors music to a whole new generation.
Talk about how Billy Duffy ditched his first band with Morrissey to form the Cult and how he help Morrissey form the Smiths with Johnny Marr after that... now that’s a true rock n roll legend there
It was Billy who taught Jhonny to play guitar,but Billy is a very humble guy,everytime he was asked about that is answer was always the same: no,it was not like that we were friends and i was playing guitar...
My wife and I saw this show in Denver when we were first dating. It was fantastic. Ian literally seemed to be channeling Jim. Lightening was crackling across the foothills during the intro to Riders on the storm. It was magical & still our favorite show we've seen together.
@@chrisbenson3322 I google mapped that area and I could not find an amphitheater. Is it still there? I live in the area so I'm curious about a venue I didn't know existed.
i seen d21c twice once in sioux city ia and las vegas nv both times i jumped on stage with them the shows were beyond mind blowing i’m only 48 years old this was my only chance to see any version of the doors.. i’m so glad i got to experience it killer killer shows ..
@@JennaLeigh saw em in march of 2003 & it was about as close as you could get to taking a time machine.Glad they gave the public what they wanted, briefly. Even played a couple of new 1s for an up coming doors album.
@@JennaLeigh from what i also read, things finally got settled & they were gonna finish the album in 2013 with singer David Brock who really sounded like Morrison but Ray........? You know the rest. 😢
Being such a mega fan of The Doors for decades, I jumped at seeing D21C at Sunfest in West Palm Beach. It was a great show. Ian clearly loved and respected the material. It's a shame business entanglements complicate just playing live shows. Toto is in the same boat.
I saw them live in Buenos Aires, and it was epic. Even band members could not believe their eyes of what was going on that night. One of my longtime favourite shows of all time.
@@davidleewrath6919 si, fue increíble. La gente de las populares se mandó al campo, que era con butacas. Hicieron una pira con las sillas y bailaban en círculos. Demencial.
I saw THE DOORS OF THE 21ST CENTURY in Manchester in 2004 with Ian Astbury singing. It was a great gig and Ray Manzarek was amazing on his organ live. The only "disaster" on stage was that they never played THE END. Still got my bootleg T-shirt bought outside. It may have only been half of THE DOORS but they still ROCKED.
What a joke. The original members had to pay the parents of a deceased member's deceased girlfriend because they used their own music and logo. What leeches
Morrisson named her (Pamela Courson) as his heir in his will, and legal executor of his estate. When she died, that executorship passed to her heirs, which were her parents. Morrisson's parents sued for years for control of their son's estate, and finally a judge granted them 50% executive control shared with the Coursons. So that means that The Doors contracts, which were drawn up as a four way 25% unanimous democratic control, now had to unanimously be agreed upon by all parties: the three surviving members plus the Morrissons and the Coursons. Every business deal, from licensing to performing to t-shirt sales, had to be voted on by seven parties, and one dissenting vote construed a unanimous veto. It's crazy, for sure, but it's really no more bizarre than any other band contract involving a dead member and his/her estate or heirs. Every business decision regarding the Beatles has to meet Yoko Ono's approval, and Nirvana can't release anything that Courtney doesn't approve. She tried to sue Dave, Pat and Krist for performing together with Paul McCartney, even though they never used the name Nirvana. She felt that she owned their right to collectively make music together, and the sad thing is that in California, she may have had legal grounds to act on that assumption.
@@RockandrollNegro that's a very well thought out reply and it looks like you did your homework. I was not aware of that arrangement. It's still nuts to me but if he left her the estate and the band didnt consider the fact that only members of the band should maintain control, then that seems legally correct. Cheers
@@mnbv990 no I disagree Jim was much better .I've barley heard of him Jim's been gone for nearly 50 years and is still talked about everywhere .the only reference to him is he's trying to impersonate Jim.Jim didn't impersonate anyone he was an original.
@Mr. snickett and with out Jim They wouldn't have made it either it took all 4 .if you will notice they never did much after Jim was gone .they made an album but it didn't go anywhere .and relived their glory days and talked about Jim and played the music they made with him.
Yeah it should have been about recreating a mood for the fans and Ian does have a great voice. The Tea Party in Canada probably owes The Doors some credit for popularity since Jeff was reminiscent of Jim.
I worked at house of blues for over 10 years. This show was by far one of the best! The employees. Fans, and band were totally Into it and it was PERFECT! Thank you to the entire band.
I once went to see the Cult an apparently the Doors were supposed to be the opening act, but they didn't show. It said on the ticket, "Doors open at 8"
I went to see them at Wembley Arena in London. It was a really good night and they sounded great. Obviously it never came close to what seeing the original lineup would of been like but as that wasn't possible. The 21st Century Doors was the next best thing.
Seems like that’s why he was outed but yea good on him , idk tho it’s like yea protect the legacy but that’s not gonna pay the bills Maybe if they took the deal they wouldn’t of had to go on tour with Ian asbury densmore kind of starts to sound like a dick when you think about it
@@alfloxxddy i used to think so. John I believe was trying to keep them honest and not sell out for money and commercialism. They were multimillionaires so didn't really need the money.
I seen it in 2005! Ive seen a lot of bad ass concerts and nothing compared! This was my favorite concert ever attended! Im only sad that we will never see them again
@@drmusic3641 actually no. Ray made a live band with Iggy 1973 but Iggy failed to appear to the shows too many times. So they split. Ray made Nite City with other guys later. So the Doors feat Iggy myth started
I was at this show as well, my 5th and final time seeing them with ian. I remember they played the songs heavier this time than the previous shows, as well as hinted that ian was reuniting with the cult when rey announced him as the voice of the cult. I still follow the cult’s tours to this day as i did before the doors thing. This experience made ian even better
I went to a show on this tour... and it was amazing! I've always loved The Cult, but never got to see them live. Seeing Ian fronting "Riders on the Storm" was close enough. Would still like to see Duffy play live though...
I remember doors of the 21st century in the late 90s and early 2000s I thought it was a good rendition of the original band but it seems like greed just killed it
I saw them in 2003 with Ian Astbury and thought that it was a great show! I later became friends with the later-period drummer Ty Dennis and there was talks of him recording my band, but life happened and we fell apart. I saw Manzarek & Krieger (with Dennis and former Butts Band member Phil Chen) one last time in 2011. This time I got to meet Robby. Ray's brother Rick was at the show and joined them on stage, so when the show was over, they left and I never got the chance to meet him. The Manzarek/Krieger/Astbury line-up had written and recorded an album's worth of material that sadly we'll likely never hear.
Agree. Was there. My sister in law has worked shows at a local theater for 25 years. She worked this show and testified it was the rowdiest show where the audience had the most fun ever!
I got to see them in 2000 with Ian Ashbury singing and the rest of the original doors in orange county California and the music was incredible and maybe better than ever before .Ian sounded great and worked out great and it was a really good show.i live the doors and the cult and what a great way to have got to see the doors live in my lifetime I am 52 now and was about 31 years old at thT time.i was lucky to have got to see the doors perform at all as they were before my time to ha e seen them live in my life although I grew up to them since I was a child throughout my life from 1969 til that time of seeing them .I am now very thankful to have ever gotten to witness them live and now after mabzerek passing and the possibility non existent I'm glad I got to experience such a cool thing.too bad lawsuits prevented so many others to get the same chance to see such a important band in the history of rock and roll and once again allowed the doors remaining members the opportunity to let the music be heard again and to play and experience playing their music livebto so many once again after the death of Jim Morrison left them in the dark under to go on for decades after his death .the doors live were incredible and sounded out of this world perfect and Ian Ashbury singing was a near perfect fit.jim Morrison would have been proud and was definitely looking down and smiling on that day in orange county california.
I got to see them in Tampa and they even let us come up on stage. Everyone was having a blast but a extra guitar player, not Robbie Krieger, for some reason hit a fan with his guitar. They got sued over that also. Poor Ray and Robbie just wanted to jam.
Just finished reading John Densmore’s book “Unhinged,” which details the lawsuit against Robby and Ray. He makes a compelling argument against Robby and Ray for trying to use the logo and trying to pass off Ian as a Jim wanna be.
I can see his point. The Doors had a "gentleman's agreement" that they wouldn't do anything unless all four of them wanted to do it, and I guess he thought now that it was 50 years later, they were down to three, etc. it still held. To me it was kind of chickenshit, because Ray and Robby outnumbered him, and they were clearly trying to do something of quality (i.e. not use Doors music and footage of Jim in a Coke commercial) AND he had sort of a flimsy excuse. Instead of just saying he didn't like the idea, he also made it a point to say he couldn't tour due to tinnitus, etc.
The 60 million dollar figure would be set by lawyers and would not be anywhere near the expected pay out. That is fine if you'd pay them to be on their cover, but I'd want say in it or money if it was me.
Yes. He can sing. Or, well, he could. He did his own singing playing an Elvis-like rock star in Top Secret! and he did his own vocals in The Doors as well. He put his all into that role.
Many people forget that The DOORS did continue after Morrison's death in the 1970's. "Other Voices" & "Full Circle" are very respectable albums in their own right. I thought the Doors with Ian Astbury was a pretty cool project. I hoped that The Doors of the 21st Century would have recorded a new album together.
While I can sort of understand Jim's parents suing, I don't get how on earth the parents of Jim's gf, who died in 1974, had grounds to sue. That makes no sense.
Didn't the other members badmouth publicly and media? I thought they (or one of them) accused her of 1st degree murder with profit as motive. And in reality she was severely depressed,broken person. So yeah I'm not surprised if that's the case it wouldn't take much to file suit just cuz. Morrison lasted about 15 minutes after he got famous. Its obvious he was done-that Miami thing is sad.
@@yikeskat8421 5 years isn’t 25 minutes. If they produced one album I might agree with you. They put out 6 albums and a live album that all went at least gold. The don’t know of any band that has matched that except for The Beatles and maybe Led Zeppelin. But I’m not even sure about that. No American band did that. The fact that we still listen to them and talk about them 50 years later proves they were more than just some flash in the pan band!
I saw the doors with astbury twice in 2003 at jones beach theatre and they were amazing. Saw the doors again in 2011 at westbury music fair with another singer and it was still awesome.
I didn't make it to any of the Ian shows, but I've seen a number of video clips and heard a number of complete shows on audio. Disastrous??? He did a fine job!! It was the closest thing to a new incarnation of the Doors they had. I saw the last version of the band, billed simply as "Robby Krieger and Ray Manzerek" maybe a year or so before Ray's death. They had a guy from a top notch Doors cover band on vocals. Personally I loved it, because the guy kind of disappeared--he provided extremely accurate Jim style vocals and the focus was on Ray and Robby. And DAMN, were they good!!!
I don't know if it was me but I suggested this a while back lol. Thanks for the video. I first got into the doors when I was 12 after I saw the movie. I went to see the DOORS OF THE 21ST CENTURY here in San Diego. I was 24. I had literally waited half my life for that show. One of the best times I had. 😁
the first show i seen was i sioux city iowa during robbys solo during riders i jumped on stage and put my arm around robbys shoulder and jammed with him he just looked at me and smiled great memory
I thought it was fantastic and Astbury was amazing in evoking Jim Morrison into the post modern landscape. No one else could or even came close to filling those leather pants
@occupyanewparadigm Scott was very erratic due to his drug problems ,Eddie was a coward always hiding of the killing floor of playing with The Doors. Did it one time and ran away,but was not only him...
I saw this Dot21C tour. Twice. As a 4 decade-plus Doors/JDM mega-fan, it was my only opportunity to ever hear Robbie & Ray play those songs in person, so I went. On the first date in Toronto, I had purchased the tix under the impression that Stewart Copeland would be on the kit, and that was an exciting prospect. But he never made the tour, and the guy they used wasn't my cup of tea. Still, it was (some of) The Doors LIVE, and I'd known & admired Astbury since the early Southern Death Cult days. But about 20 minutes into their set, I started having cognitive dissonance. They sounded great, but in my head a voice kept asking, "What would Jim think of this?" I knew the answer. He wouldn't like it. He might've liked to see the songs kept alive, but not with Ian up there DRESSED LIKE HIM, moving like him, mimicking him. Belt buckled leather pants and all. Astbury was sincerely living out his personal fantasy. He did justice to the songs vocally, but he wasn't bringing anything to them. I left both shows feeling slightly guilty for having enjoyed it, and feeling like a needed a shower to wash the sin of my betrayal from me. I hoped Jim would understand that I just wanted to be in a space with those songs Robbie & Ray, and thousands of Doors fans. I don't blame the band for the weird vibe I got, that's on me, but for a fan of JDM, that tour was a VERY conflicting experience.
I too saw this version of the doors 3 times live. Once with astbury, once with Brett Scallions, and the final time in 2008 I believe when they had the lead singer from a tribute band with them...I left feeling the exact same way as you. However it was amazing to share a space in time with ray and Robbie and listen to them perform the music I love so much. I still catch Robbie live when he comes to Chicago solo and a bit of that magic is there still.
I made a pilgrimage to see Jim Morrison’s grave in 1991 while on honeymoon in Paris. A few years later I had the good fortune of seeing the Doors with Ian as frontman in Birmingham. They were brilliant and I count myself lucky to see them.
Yeah, if you assume I wasn’t at one of the awful shows, I’m just gonna go ahead and assume that you are a cash grab proto band type of guy. You probably thought ac/dc fronted by axel was “a stroke of musical genius”. The tour sucked, it should have never happened. Not all bands can be Van Halen.
I saw them too. Astley did a good job stepping into Jim's shoes. Only criticism, I don't remember them doing Riders on the Storm ? And did we really need drum & bass solos. (I know, that's technically 2 criticisms).
I saw this tour at Jones Beach, NY. It was outstanding. 4 dudes on stage with their instruments and a rug. No fireworks fancy shit. Just the music. It was really a great night.
I saw two shows at Wembley in 2003 and 2004. Great shows. Astbury was respectful. The lawsuits etc were a drag but seeing Manzarek and Krieger live justified everything.
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Could you do a video explaining why The Doors didn’t do Woodstock, someone said they didn’t do it because they didn’t like playing outdoor gigs but in 1970 they played Isle of Wight which is, last time I checked, an outdoor gig
Did you ever do a video about the Judgement Night soundtrack? Every song was a collaboration between a rock group and a rap group. It was basically the flashpoint for NuMetal.
There is reportedly a stash of songs done with the four original members of Van Halen from studio time about 20 years ago. Never released, but rumored to be pretty good. Of course, the kings of Howdy Doody Mountain (Ed and Al) buried them. This would be cool to know more about.
I attended several of these shows and every one was FREAKIN’ AWESOME!! The crowds were really into it and Ian was great. Anyone who says otherwise probably wasn’t there.
I was fortunate to catch one of these shows and was BLOWN away with Astbury's performance!
I agree and have the double cd that they sold THAT NIGHT of the show to prove it. We met Ian afterwards by chance in a hallway of the casino (it was his birthday) and he was so humble and gracious. I asked him about Billy Duffy, and he said "I never talk to him anymore" with a sad look. A year later (or two?) BOOM The Cult are back. The Doors show was wicked awesome, Robbie was playing great, so was Ray, Ian sounded fantastic, and the riddim section was tight (they added a bass) there were great videos and lighting, EVERYTHING about that show was great (2004/ 2005?) Any one can have an opinion. Mine is made from experience.
This channel has it in for Ian. If the guy who does these videos had a brain he’d be dangerous.
@@siouxsansue7690 "Ian had always respected American Indians" 😆 what a weird comment
@@johnnyprovo988 imagine if you're what inspired Ian to contact Duffy! You never know and your could be responsible for the return of the cult!
Ian Astbury did an amazing job as the Doors singer. Perfect fit.
Actually Pamela Courson’s family getting ANY royalties or say in any Doors matters is the biggest shame.....
Totally
Appalling , isn’t it
More so given the fact that she introduced him to Jean De Breteuil and that she totally knew how he died and it was not in the apartment bathtub but in a pub bathroom...
I would say his parents are the biggest shame since Jim was astranged from them.
Gross. What a bunch of vultures. People can be so selfish and greedy.
A deals a deal..it was settled early on the originals would all have to agree...which one did not. Fair play.
I don't mind the Drummer suing, but the girlfriends parents and Morrison's parents was sad...
Morrison, Kreiger, Densmore , and Manzarek made more than a deal or a contract...It was a promise and oath between young friends who would come together and unite into one of the biggest bands in the world. Jim’s dad never believed in - and his music and poetry - until when he was close to his death from this world (not sure what Jim’s mother thought about Jim?). Pam’s family……well…who knows? Money was being thrown all around from the band to extended family. Jim’s image was seemingly whored out as a means of helping advertise. The Doors were over by 1972 Anyhoo. And now, the Doors are closed.
On the outside sure but if you were Jim Morrison family how would you feel . like it of not Jim's likeness has a dollar value ...But yes it Sucks
I saw them at Wembley Arena, and they were brilliant. To have the opportunity to even see part of the band was an honour and completely disrespectful to say otherwise
I saw this tour. It was absolutely fabulous and right on the mark. So glad I got to see it
When art and commerce collide, what a mess. Jim’s father finally realized what his son accomplished after he died, when the money kept coming in.
Totally 💯
...As Jim said in Recordings and Writings many times, ‘Money Beats Soul’ EveryTime. -Jim’s Parents Probably has this Tattooed
He finally realized how much of an impact his son made on the world and it still shocks him because he still thinks his own son can't sing, but hey at least I'm getting a his money
@@flight4203 in subsequent interviews he praised his son‘a talent. But he was a hard ass and totally dissed Morrison’s talent while Jim was alive.
You mean after admiral Morrison executed the Tonkin gulf incident and basically sauntered in the draft to kick off the Vietnam war
My brother actually worked with the band on this tour. He realized a lifelong dream by jamming with Ray and Robbie. The show I got to see was great. Stewart Copeland brought such an energy to the performance. It did have that "tribute band with the original members" vibe, but the spirit of Jim was there. It was good for a while there.
Oh mannnn I am so jealous. Ray is and was my hero. I never got to meet him, but back in 2000 I got to talk to him on a radio show. I was 16 and totally star struck, but I managed to thank him for getting me into Muddy Waters.
That’s so awesome. I would’ve been bothering my bro like “can I come to work with you one day?” Ya know take ya brother to work day? Lol
@@natalielastname1117 Cool. Yea Ray seemed like such a pleasant enthusiastic man. There’s a vid on here I think it’s called “Ray manzerak in Venice beach” it rules. I watch it still time to time he describes his memories so well.
That's really cool. Lucky guy.
@@billyshead1339 Yes Ray could talk about paint drying and make it interesting.
All this legal battles from the hippie generation.
So much for peace and love ..
None of them were hippies tho so your point is irrelevant. I get what you're trying to say but still irrelevant..
Lol !!!
@@flight4203 Even worse, the point isn't even relevant because it wasn't the hippie generation who did it at all- the parents were the generation _before_ the hippies. Blaming the hippies would be like blaming the millennials for what generation _x_ is doing.
Baby, if you haven't figured out that democrats are the worst hypocrites in the US, there's just no hope for you!
@@TheIndependentLens exactly!
I saw the Doors with Ian at the Waikiki Shell in about 2005. Ian did it justice, incredible show. Too bad about all the attorneys.
Absolutely! Was great show! I saw in new york at jones beach. Ian was great!
Yes I saw them in SF in 2005 and it was as close to seeing The Doors with Morrison as possible,Ian was excellent ,spot on
There's no way this nonsense was any good. No way
The tours were class and Ian was perfect to play with Ray & Robbie.
I attended the show in Zurich and I found it amazing. Astbury did not just do a simple cover of the songs but made them sound different according to his unique style which gave the whole show a vibe of respect to Jim Morrison as he just didn't try to copy it. It was an amazing show and too bad all these people had to go through this legal mess to bring the Doors music to a whole new generation.
Ian Astbury is one of the best Rock vocalists of all time.
Jim Morrison is the best rock vocalist of all time.
@@stpeterson7644 sorry. It’s Freddie. Everyone else is about a mile behind and then the rest of the list starts. Sure Jim and ian is next
@@stpeterson7644 I agree with you! Jim Morrison was the greatest by far!
@@fredwinslow744 😆
Lol! That’s ridiculous
Jim and Ian have always reminded me of each other in their looks and style.
Talk about how Billy Duffy ditched his first band with Morrissey to form the Cult and how he help Morrissey form the Smiths with Johnny Marr after that... now that’s a true rock n roll legend there
He many have interacted with Marr and Morrissey separately, but it wasn’t to form the smiths. He played with Morrissey in The Nosebleeds.
Jett Crash when Billy left he told Marr to call Morrissey to form a band, without Billy, the Smiths would have never existed
He left the Nosebleeds way before forming the Death Cult with Ian. You’re thinking of Theatre of Hate.
themstem69 thanks for the precision ! That’s why he as to make a video about this 😉
It was Billy who taught Jhonny to play guitar,but Billy is a very humble guy,everytime he was asked about that is answer was always the same: no,it was not like that we were friends and i was playing guitar...
My wife and I saw this show in Denver when we were first dating. It was fantastic. Ian literally seemed to be channeling Jim. Lightening was crackling across the foothills during the intro to Riders on the storm. It was magical & still our favorite show we've seen together.
Sounds epic!
Red Rocks or Fiddlers Green?
@@sgt.thundercok4704 neither. The amphitheater next to the Pepsi center.
@@chrisbenson3322 I wish I had caught it.
@@chrisbenson3322 I google mapped that area and I could not find an amphitheater. Is it still there? I live in the area so I'm curious about a venue I didn't know existed.
i seen d21c twice once in sioux city ia and las vegas nv both times i jumped on stage with them the shows were beyond mind blowing i’m only 48 years old this was my only chance to see any version of the doors.. i’m so glad i got to experience it killer killer shows ..
i’ve seen robby solo also in the early 90’s
It sucks that Ray is gone, Robby still tours. I saw him a few years ago. John makes guest appearances with Robby every now and then.
@@JennaLeigh it was definitely worth going and I'm really glad I went to see them in London. Knew I would of regretted it if hadn't.
@@JennaLeigh saw em in march of 2003 & it was about as close as you could get to taking a time machine.Glad they gave the public what they wanted, briefly. Even played a couple of new 1s for an up coming doors album.
@@JennaLeigh from what i also read, things finally got settled & they were gonna finish the album in 2013 with singer David Brock who really sounded like Morrison but Ray........? You know the rest. 😢
Being such a mega fan of The Doors for decades, I jumped at seeing D21C at Sunfest in West Palm Beach. It was a great show. Ian clearly loved and respected the material. It's a shame business entanglements complicate just playing live shows. Toto is in the same boat.
Yeah i was there too. It was amazing.
I thought Astbury sounded great. It is a shame how it all went down the drain, indeed.
Great cover band/Tribute act
I saw the tour when they did four shows in Boston. It was awesome. They did everything. Ray and Robbie were spectacular.
I saw the doors with Ian astbury 3 times. I really enjoyed the shows!
Dude, that was superb.
This 69yo is impressed with the accuracy and depth of your research.
Thank you from a Morrison & Doors fan.
Hey man did you ever get to see him? I was born in 81, I will always love the Doors.
There are some similarities between Astbury and Morrison but also Vin Diesel and Homer Simpson
Have Vin and Homer ever been seen together? Hmmmmm??
@@jimschleich8753 yes. The movie " The Fat and The Furious"
If you havent seen his recorded shows, you should; they were really great.
Morrison had better teeth though.
@@BTsMusicChannel Need a bigger boat!
I saw them live in Buenos Aires, and it was epic. Even band members could not believe their eyes of what was going on that night. One of my longtime favourite shows of all time.
Se armó un tremendo quilombo, no?
@@davidleewrath6919 si, fue increíble. La gente de las populares se mandó al campo, que era con butacas. Hicieron una pira con las sillas y bailaban en círculos. Demencial.
I saw THE DOORS OF THE 21ST CENTURY in Manchester in 2004 with Ian Astbury singing. It was a great gig and Ray Manzarek was amazing on his organ live. The only "disaster" on stage was that they never played THE END. Still got my bootleg T-shirt bought outside. It may have only been half of THE DOORS but they still ROCKED.
I was there too :)
Me too , 1 off the bucket list
I saw the Doors with Ian live and It was a great show. I wish they could have continued. I am a fan of the Doors and the Cult.
Was my first concert.
I had more problem with the drummer who thought he’d signed up for Motorhead. No subtlety at all - wish Stuart Copland had done it.
I saw them in Birmingham I think it was ☺
I saw d21c several time it was awesome! Huge cult fan here too. This video is bullshit
I like the Cult and the Doors too. I like Ian singing Doors songs.
What a joke. The original members had to pay the parents of a deceased member's deceased girlfriend because they used their own music and logo. What leeches
@Dowhat Iwant Im sure they never signed a deal to leave Jim's girlfriend a say, let alone her parents.
Morrisson named her (Pamela Courson) as his heir in his will, and legal executor of his estate. When she died, that executorship passed to her heirs, which were her parents. Morrisson's parents sued for years for control of their son's estate, and finally a judge granted them 50% executive control shared with the Coursons.
So that means that The Doors contracts, which were drawn up as a four way 25% unanimous democratic control, now had to unanimously be agreed upon by all parties: the three surviving members plus the Morrissons and the Coursons. Every business deal, from licensing to performing to t-shirt sales, had to be voted on by seven parties, and one dissenting vote construed a unanimous veto.
It's crazy, for sure, but it's really no more bizarre than any other band contract involving a dead member and his/her estate or heirs. Every business decision regarding the Beatles has to meet Yoko Ono's approval, and Nirvana can't release anything that Courtney doesn't approve. She tried to sue Dave, Pat and Krist for performing together with Paul McCartney, even though they never used the name Nirvana. She felt that she owned their right to collectively make music together, and the sad thing is that in California, she may have had legal grounds to act on that assumption.
@@RockandrollNegro that's a very well thought out reply and it looks like you did your homework. I was not aware of that arrangement. It's still nuts to me but if he left her the estate and the band didnt consider the fact that only members of the band should maintain control, then that seems legally correct. Cheers
@@RockandrollNegro That was a clear description of the legal terms they agreed to. Thank you!
@@rticle15 How about when John Fogerty getting sued for copying his own music? This is just as nuts.
I seen the 21st century doors at the s.e.c.c. In Glasgow.What a night they rocked the big red shed.
I was there too and it was brilliant
There's a reason Jim was never fully replaced. He was a drunken fool sometimes, but he owned the stage like no one has since.
So true! He was one of a kind and will never be forgotten!
@@damianb2374 Gotta add Nivek Ogre and Kraftwerk.
Mr B the gentleman rhymer has as much stage presence as Morrison had.
@@mnbv990 no I disagree Jim was much better .I've barley heard of him Jim's been gone for nearly 50 years and is still talked about everywhere .the only reference to him is he's trying to impersonate Jim.Jim didn't impersonate anyone he was an original.
@Mr. snickett and with out Jim They wouldn't have made it either it took all 4 .if you will notice they never did much after Jim was gone .they made an album but it didn't go anywhere .and relived their glory days and talked about Jim and played the music they made with him.
I saw a few shows with Ian and he was great. If you closed your eyes, you really felt like you were at a real Doors concert.
Yeah it should have been about recreating a mood for the fans and Ian does have a great voice. The Tea Party in Canada probably owes The Doors some credit for popularity since Jeff was reminiscent of Jim.
Totally agree. Saw the show - total goosebumps throughout. Thought he did an incredible job.
Actually Ian and Doors was a fantastic combination. Ian is the man ! Astbury should have been the star of the biopic.
They should have named the band The Revolving Doors.
Paul AKA Pablo ...perhaps...”the locked doors”
Ha ha... now THAT'S funny.
Beautiful
@@spikesification Nice
Sliding doors?
I worked at house of blues for over 10 years. This show was by far one of the best! The employees. Fans, and band were totally
Into it and it was PERFECT! Thank you to the entire band.
The book is called " no one here gets out alive ".
You got the words mixed up buddy.
Read that book about 40 years ago. Great book.
@@peach495
Same. It's a classic. Shaped my teens.
Or as Ray called it “Nothing Here But Lies”
He also called him Ian Assberry.
@@duderama6750 yes,but is not only in this video,it is in all his videos about The Cult. Really annoying.
I once went to see the Cult an apparently the Doors were supposed to be the opening act, but they didn't show. It said on the ticket, "Doors open at 8"
I went to see them at Wembley Arena in London. It was a really good night and they sounded great. Obviously it never came close to what seeing the original lineup would of been like but as that wasn't possible. The 21st Century Doors was the next best thing.
I saw the D21C a couple times with Ian. It was amazing live. I’m glad I got the opportunity.
Disaster ? It was a triumph ! Jim’s shoes are hard to fill but Astbury nailed it .
Yes Allen he did ..years later I realized who the singer was...my show was in A.C. New Jersey...great!!
Yes absolutely a great concert experience. There was no need to use Disaster in the title.
The tour made $8 million. I would love to experience such a disaster
Much respect to John Densmore for keeping Light my Fire out of the Cadillac commercial.
You mean Jim keeping it out of a Buick commercial.
Jim Morrison refused Buick and years later Densmore refused Cadillacs offer.
We are left to wonder whether the bond they forged truly is ... stronger than dirt.
Seems like that’s why he was outed but yea good on him , idk tho it’s like yea protect the legacy but that’s not gonna pay the bills
Maybe if they took the deal they wouldn’t of had to go on tour with Ian asbury densmore kind of starts to sound like a dick when you think about it
@@alfloxxddy i used to think so. John I believe was trying to keep them honest and not sell out for money and commercialism. They were multimillionaires so didn't really need the money.
Ian Astbury is one of the best singers in rock history
Don't you think that title should go to someone who didn't regularly hit bum notes?
@@liborsionko he's been great every time I've seen The Cult. Including several times in the past few years
Dreaming he was in Zeppelin!!!!!
That would be a definite no.
He’s a lingering fart that Jim let out in a phone booth in 1968
Jim’s parents suing on his behalf is so wrong in so many ways.
And the parents of his deceased wife! Oh god, I'm sure Jim would be so proud.
Ah...Legally It is Money$ 💰 .
Grifting toerags
@@sorearm SC Reviews fan?
Saw doors 21st century at Mohegan sun ct. Must have been 2002. Great show. They sounded awesome
I seen it in 2005! Ive seen a lot of bad ass concerts and nothing compared! This was my favorite concert ever attended! Im only sad that we will never see them again
Robby Krieger and Ray Manzarek actually thought Joe Cocker would be a good choice to front the band and sing songs by The Doors???
They DID do a lot of drugs in the ‘60s...
@@MrJett1971 Didn't they also get Iggy pop? Any1 know more on that story?
@@bobbystereo936 I believe that wasnt long after Morrison Died. They asked but Iggy didnt want to do it
@@drmusic3641 actually no. Ray made a live band with Iggy 1973 but Iggy failed to appear to the shows too many times. So they split. Ray made Nite City with other guys later. So the Doors feat Iggy myth started
@@marguskiis7711 Oh! Okay. Thanks 4the info.
I witnessed this show in a bad ass theater in the downtown area of my city. And they did not disappoint. Absolutely brilliant.
Didn't know much about this but surprised it was so bad. Saw The Cult in 1990 I believe and it was awesome! Openers were Dangerous Toys and Bonham.
Hellz Yeah!! The minister was there! Memphis 1990! Still have the T-Shirt! ROCKIN 🎸
@@ministerofdarkness Orlando Arena for me
Holy crap that is a very "transitional from 80s to 90s" lineup there.
Saw them on that same tour. Fairgrounds Pavilion, Tulsa, OK. Except Dangerous Toys wasn't with them in Tulsa. It was Tora Tora.
Yes, was at the Sacramento CA show.
I saw them play at the 930 Club in Washington, DC. They were fantastic. Ian Astbury sounded great.
I was at this show as well, my 5th and final time seeing them with ian. I remember they played the songs heavier this time than the previous shows, as well as hinted that ian was reuniting with the cult when rey announced him as the voice of the cult. I still follow the cult’s tours to this day as i did before the doors thing. This experience made ian even better
Ian is a great band lead and oh that voice!
I liked the The Doors of the 21st Century. Ian did a good job. How can any one sue Ray Manzerik. He is The Doors. Even Morrison said so.
I saw that tour multiple times & the shows were amazing !!!!!!!
Should go by The Defendants.
Haha good one!
@@LRS905 😄
Or the Doors to the Civil Court room
I wanted to see them with Ian!!! The tribute was awesome!!
I went to a show on this tour... and it was amazing! I've always loved The Cult, but never got to see them live. Seeing Ian fronting "Riders on the Storm" was close enough. Would still like to see Duffy play live though...
You still can
I seen them in Manchester UK and it was amazing, Ian was brilliant and me and my brother had an amazing night.
I saw them play on this tour, it was a fantastic show.
I saw the Doors of the 21st Century in 2004. They were fantastic.
I remember doors of the 21st century in the late 90s and early 2000s I thought it was a good rendition of the original band but it seems like greed just killed it
Seen them in early 2000,I gotta say Ian did a great job.. Its one of my favorite shows,and ive seen them all
Ian was a GREAT addition to the Doors !!! People are too narrow minded to understand or hear it
I saw thes guys, and thought Ian Astbury was FANTASTIC as their lead singer.
I saw the Doors of 21st Century live. It was one of my most cherished concert memories..
I remember catching them and was blown away. They were great. It was hardly a disaster.
I saw that tour in Dublin, one of the best gigs I've ever seen
Saw them in Detroit with Astbury. Was fantastic.
Ian did a great job filling the boots of Jim.
Ray and Robbie were amazing as one would expect.
I saw that tour and it was amazing!! John Kaye was with steppenwolf and killed it and so did the doors!! Incredible show
Lucky man!
*Kay
I saw them in 2003 with Ian Astbury and thought that it was a great show! I later became friends with the later-period drummer Ty Dennis and there was talks of him recording my band, but life happened and we fell apart. I saw Manzarek & Krieger (with Dennis and former Butts Band member Phil Chen) one last time in 2011. This time I got to meet Robby. Ray's brother Rick was at the show and joined them on stage, so when the show was over, they left and I never got the chance to meet him. The Manzarek/Krieger/Astbury line-up had written and recorded an album's worth of material that sadly we'll likely never hear.
I was fortunate enough to see them live. One of the best shows of my life. I'll always cherish that.
THE TOUR WAS EPIC WITH IAN.
It was!
Agree. Was there. My sister in law has worked shows at a local theater for 25 years. She worked this show and testified it was the rowdiest show where the audience had the most fun ever!
Saw that tour first in Tampa and later in Atlanta outdoors. The Tampa show was simply anazing. The power of the 60s was palpable.
Robbie Krieger's old house that he built in Bel Air 1971 showed up on Million Dollar Listing.
I got to see them in 2000 with Ian Ashbury singing and the rest of the original doors in orange county California and the music was incredible and maybe better than ever before .Ian sounded great and worked out great and it was a really good show.i live the doors and the cult and what a great way to have got to see the doors live in my lifetime I am 52 now and was about 31 years old at thT time.i was lucky to have got to see the doors perform at all as they were before my time to ha e seen them live in my life although I grew up to them since I was a child throughout my life from 1969 til that time of seeing them .I am now very thankful to have ever gotten to witness them live and now after mabzerek passing and the possibility non existent I'm glad I got to experience such a cool thing.too bad lawsuits prevented so many others to get the same chance to see such a important band in the history of rock and roll and once again allowed the doors remaining members the opportunity to let the music be heard again and to play and experience playing their music livebto so many once again after the death of Jim Morrison left them in the dark under to go on for decades after his death .the doors live were incredible and sounded out of this world perfect and Ian Ashbury singing was a near perfect fit.jim Morrison would have been proud and was definitely looking down and smiling on that day in orange county california.
I got to see them in Tampa and they even let us come up on stage. Everyone was having a blast but a extra guitar player, not Robbie Krieger, for some reason hit a fan with his guitar. They got sued over that also. Poor Ray and Robbie just wanted to jam.
There’s something about The Doors and Florida in general. It seems like bad shit happens when they play there. 🤷♂️
Just finished reading John Densmore’s book “Unhinged,” which details the lawsuit against Robby and Ray. He makes a compelling argument against Robby and Ray for trying to use the logo and trying to pass off Ian as a Jim wanna be.
I can see his point. The Doors had a "gentleman's agreement" that they wouldn't do anything unless all four of them wanted to do it, and I guess he thought now that it was 50 years later, they were down to three, etc. it still held. To me it was kind of chickenshit, because Ray and Robby outnumbered him, and they were clearly trying to do something of quality (i.e. not use Doors music and footage of Jim in a Coke commercial) AND he had sort of a flimsy excuse. Instead of just saying he didn't like the idea, he also made it a point to say he couldn't tour due to tinnitus, etc.
60 Million for using your image? I'd wanna pay THEM to be on their cover. :)
Greed greed greed....
The 60 million dollar figure would be set by lawyers and would not be anywhere near the expected pay out. That is fine if you'd pay them to be on their cover, but I'd want say in it or money if it was me.
Shit yourself and lie in a Paris Gutter and you got a shot at the vynil re re issue. That will be 1000000000000000 francs Monsiuer
'dont know if he can actually Sing ... but *Val Kilmer* sure LOOKED the part
He definitely can't sing now. He's got a hole in his neck.
Yes. He can sing. Or, well, he could. He did his own singing playing an Elvis-like rock star in Top Secret! and he did his own vocals in The Doors as well. He put his all into that role.
@@moonlily1 He even played Elvis in True Romance, playing Christian Slater's mentor.
He could sing the part back then. Val was in a Doors tribute band. It's a big part if why he got the movie role.
If I remember correctly, Jason Patric was also considered for the lead, and I believe resembled Morrison more than Val.
Many people forget that The DOORS did continue after Morrison's death in the 1970's. "Other Voices" & "Full Circle" are very respectable albums in their own right. I thought the Doors with Ian Astbury was a pretty cool project. I hoped that The Doors of the 21st Century would have recorded a new album together.
LOL Stoned and horny.....(Jim Face palms)
Yes they did "Tightrope ride" I believe was the featured single with Ray singing I believe.
Did you see any of the shows? Meyer Music Bowl in Melbourne Australia. The 10,000 people in the crowd absolutely loved it.
While I can sort of understand Jim's parents suing, I don't get how on earth the parents of Jim's gf, who died in 1974, had grounds to sue. That makes no sense.
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Didn't the other members badmouth publicly and media? I thought they (or one of them) accused her of 1st degree murder with profit as motive. And in reality she was severely depressed,broken person. So yeah I'm not surprised if that's the case it wouldn't take much to file suit just cuz. Morrison lasted about 15 minutes after he got famous. Its obvious he was done-that Miami thing is sad.
@@yikeskat8421 5 years isn’t 25 minutes. If they produced one album I might agree with you. They put out 6 albums and a live album that all went at least gold. The don’t know of any band that has matched that except for The Beatles and maybe Led Zeppelin. But I’m not even sure about that. No American band did that. The fact that we still listen to them and talk about them 50 years later proves they were more than just some flash in the pan band!
@@robert.m4676 Kinda like Guns and Roses. You can't deny Morrison had lost it hard. It was sad.
Because vagina.
I saw the doors with astbury twice in 2003 at jones beach theatre and they were amazing.
Saw the doors again in 2011 at westbury music fair with another singer and it was still awesome.
Ian was amazing doin that. He such a great singer. I love the Cult
I could never watch or listen to anything by The Doors without Jim. Love all them
I didn't make it to any of the Ian shows, but I've seen a number of video clips and heard a number of complete shows on audio. Disastrous??? He did a fine job!! It was the closest thing to a new incarnation of the Doors they had.
I saw the last version of the band, billed simply as "Robby Krieger and Ray Manzerek" maybe a year or so before Ray's death. They had a guy from a top notch Doors cover band on vocals. Personally I loved it, because the guy kind of disappeared--he provided extremely accurate Jim style vocals and the focus was on Ray and Robby. And DAMN, were they good!!!
Great video brother. I watch all of your stuff. As a huge Doors fan that didn't even know about any of what was in this video, I am shocked.
I don't know if it was me but I suggested this a while back lol. Thanks for the video.
I first got into the doors when I was 12 after I saw the movie. I went to see the DOORS OF THE 21ST CENTURY here in San Diego. I was 24. I had literally waited half my life for that show. One of the best times I had. 😁
Thanks for suggestion great story
the first show i seen was i sioux city iowa during robbys solo during riders i jumped on stage and put my arm around robbys shoulder and jammed with him he just looked at me and smiled great memory
I SAW THIS TOUR at Th e Oakdale in Wallingford CT. AWESOME NIGHT !!!!!
I thought it was fantastic and Astbury was amazing in evoking Jim Morrison into the post modern landscape. No one else could or even came close to filling those leather pants
Travis Meeks and Scott Weiland were really good on the VH1 thing
@occupyanewparadigm Scott was very erratic due to his drug problems ,Eddie was a coward always hiding of the killing floor of playing with The Doors. Did it one time and ran away,but was not only him...
HALF THE DOORS + IAN ATSBURY = GREAT SHOW IN PHILLY THE TOWER THEATRE LOVED IT
I saw this Dot21C tour. Twice. As a 4 decade-plus Doors/JDM mega-fan, it was my only opportunity to ever hear Robbie & Ray play those songs in person, so I went. On the first date in Toronto, I had purchased the tix under the impression that Stewart Copeland would be on the kit, and that was an exciting prospect. But he never made the tour, and the guy they used wasn't my cup of tea. Still, it was (some of) The Doors LIVE, and I'd known & admired Astbury since the early Southern Death Cult days. But about 20 minutes into their set, I started having cognitive dissonance. They sounded great, but in my head a voice kept asking, "What would Jim think of this?" I knew the answer. He wouldn't like it. He might've liked to see the songs kept alive, but not with Ian up there DRESSED LIKE HIM, moving like him, mimicking him. Belt buckled leather pants and all. Astbury was sincerely living out his personal fantasy. He did justice to the songs vocally, but he wasn't bringing anything to them. I left both shows feeling slightly guilty for having enjoyed it, and feeling like a needed a shower to wash the sin of my betrayal from me. I hoped Jim would understand that I just wanted to be in a space with those songs Robbie & Ray, and thousands of Doors fans. I don't blame the band for the weird vibe I got, that's on me, but for a fan of JDM, that tour was a VERY conflicting experience.
I too saw this version of the doors 3 times live. Once with astbury, once with Brett Scallions, and the final time in 2008 I believe when they had the lead singer from a tribute band with them...I left feeling the exact same way as you. However it was amazing to share a space in time with ray and Robbie and listen to them perform the music I love so much. I still catch Robbie live when he comes to Chicago solo and a bit of that magic is there still.
Well said.
Ian's always worn leather pants
I made a pilgrimage to see Jim Morrison’s grave in 1991 while on honeymoon in Paris. A few years later I had the good fortune of seeing the Doors with Ian as frontman in Birmingham. They were brilliant and I count myself lucky to see them.
Jim's dad kept tight reins on any & all of Jim's likeness & royalties.
Which is a funny thing as they were 100% completely estranged during the entire doors period, and through to his death.
Probably trying to protect his sons name. I don't think his father approved of the lifestyle/profession. Did what he could.
$$$$$$$$$$$$
Funny how Jim's "dad" hated him the whole time he was famous and touring. But once people get the $$$$$$$$ eyes everything suddenly changes.
@@BB.halo_heir STFU
I seen Ian Astbury with D21C in glasgow, it was a great gig, and Ian was brilliant.
No One Here Gets Out Alive
It’s a line from 5 to 1
lormendi he got it wrong in the video, Holmes
@@edx21x aren't you observant...Watson
Junior James why all the anger about correcting the name of the book? Seems pretty harmless but yet it triggered a few people.
@@edx21x Nothing but love brother!
I seen em live in Glasgow.. Was superb
I saw it, was amazing. Anyone criticizing it , probably didn’t go to a show
I saw it too and it was fantastic.
The show I went to was so bad Ray manzarek even told the crowd they could get their money back. So maybe you got lucky.
Yeah, if you assume I wasn’t at one of the awful shows, I’m just gonna go ahead and assume that you are a cash grab proto band type of guy. You probably thought ac/dc fronted by axel was “a stroke of musical genius”. The tour sucked, it should have never happened. Not all bands can be Van Halen.
Me too, saw them twice, once in a little club, and once in an arena, both shows were great
I saw them too. Astley did a good job stepping into Jim's shoes. Only criticism, I don't remember them doing Riders on the Storm ? And did we really need drum & bass solos. (I know, that's technically 2 criticisms).
The first Doors album was recorded in 1966 and released January 4th 1967.
Got to see one of their shows in 2003, it was great.
I saw this tour at Jones Beach, NY. It was outstanding. 4 dudes on stage with their instruments and a rug. No fireworks fancy shit. Just the music. It was really a great night.
How did Astbury sound with the band? Did he make it his own or replicate Jim?
@@caravanrose he was a Morrison replica. Had the leather pants long hair sunglasses leaning on the Mike stand. Was really a great show.
@@RoyRamone955 would've loved to be there myself, glad you got to enjoy
I saw two shows at Wembley in 2003 and 2004. Great shows. Astbury was respectful. The lawsuits etc were a drag but seeing Manzarek and Krieger live justified everything.
It's like you can't even say anything about a door or else you get sued. They should have just renamed themselves The Wooden Rectangles.
Interesting rename bands- The Spinning Rocks ect
The Portals?
The How.
The seashore boys
Steel Panther is something along those lines