Just got an SF2000 yesterday to replace a T5 in my small tent and within minutes my plants reacted like crazy to it! I know I just got it but after just one day and everything I've seen from you guys and the other channels I watch I feel like I can say Spider Farmer is the shit!! Nice makeshift 3000!
Yeah, going from T5's to one of these SF series lights is crazy. We were using T5's and blurpie lights at first, and the results under these have been so much better.
Nice man! I have a hard time wanting to make videos when I am on vacation, I am all about being in the moment when possible and I actually manage to get away =)
As a new grower I purchased a 2x4 tent. Being no expert I still recognized the sf1000 light would not be enough ideally. This video was exactly what I was looking for. I have been wondering if I should add an additional sf1000 or step up to the sf2000. Now I know!!!!! You guys are doing great work.. keep it up! Be safe..be healthy
sf-2000 is best for 2ftx3ft flowering. ive seen enough 3rd party testing and my own showing sf 2000 working best in a 2ftx3ft tent there just isnt enought light for the edges for filling a 2x4 with optimal even growth. i currently use sf2000 and sf1000 in my oversized 2x4 and and i hang them around 20-30 inches from the canopy. it has been a game changer for sure.
I actually just found a whole bunch of footage that I thought was lost, it is 2x SF-2000 in the oversized 2x4 that they have, which filled that canopy out really well. Going to be uploading all of that to the channel soon =)
I have the sf1000 tent kit, love it. I just built a DIY tent the same size and I just got a maxsisun pb1000 which Amazon recommended. Im currently comparing them.
Thanks for the vid! I rushed out and got 2 sf2000's for my 4x4, thinking it would be even enough numbers, but it's not perfect. I'm fixated on doing a SOG so I have the brilliant idea of doing 4 sf2000's and dimming it to around 600w. These numbers would be pretty close to what I'm out to achieve, thanks again for the content brother
Before buying any more SF-2000, check out the SE-7000 on their website. We haven't gotten it to test yet, but I really like the SE-5000 and the SE-7000 would fill out a 4x4 tent really nicely. This is of course if you have the funds, as that thing is not cheap. Just another possibility though, especially if you are concerned about having even light across the canopy.
@@TheHippieGeeks it's all I could afford at the time and it works out slightly cheaper. Plus the way the lights are arranged it will end up having a gap in the centre, the light spread will be more even than the se7000
Also always great content! I appreciate the time you take to make these videos! I can just imagine the time it would take to get all these accurate number on par. Keep up the good work you are a blessing to this community
It is a bit. This tent at least was pretty small, when I do the measurements with the 5'x5' grid there six different heights, and each height needs 121 measurements. Then add in the measurements at different power levels and I am up above 1000 different readings before it is all said and done =)
We have been pushing out three videos a week for a bit now, and the last couple of weeks has been four, which is pretty crazy. When we started, I was barely able to get a single video out per week =)
Our SF-4000's are the old style without dimmers, so they were at full power. In flower we had them at right around 24" above the canopy, which was giving us 750-850 PAR at the canopy. We had to raise them up at the end though when we had that heat spike, we just couldn't cool the garage down enough and had to get the lights a bit further from the plants. One thing to remember though is that we had three of the lights in the same tent, so they were able to splash each other with light which brought our PAR levels up. I am working on getting an updated SF-4000 so that I can test its light levels out, and will also be doing things like this where I try the different lights out in different tents to see how they do. Hope that helps!
They have two different tents, this size specifically comes with the SF-2000 kit, and the slightly larger one comes by itself. I am not sure why they are doing it this way, but it is slightly confusing for sure.
@The Hippie Geeks I have this exact set up about to start my first grow. I'm still trying to understand all these par figures. Would you mind sharing the light height and dimmer % at each stage of growth 👍
What I can do is share the light levels that we look like at the different stages of growth. When a seed pops we like to have the light level between 100-150 PAR. We will slowly increase that over the first three weeks up to around 350 PAR. Over the course of veg, we will be increasing the light levels to around 550 PAR. Getting into flower, we steadily increase the light levels to the 750 PAR level. Now, all of that is going to change depending on how the plant reacts to the light. Some will want more, some will want less it just kind of depends. With those numbers in mind, you should be able to use the PAR readings we show along with the PAR x multipliers to find what the best height / dim settings are.
I have both of these lights and just looking to find out are these measurements from the floor up or the distance between the top of the plant and the light
All of our measurements are from the light to the "canopy" which in this case is 1 inch off of the floor as that is the height of the sensor. However, the distance listed is from the sensor to the light, so 12" would be 12" above the sensor, or 13" from the floor.
If I find the right one on Amazon, it looks like it only pulls 135 watts from the wall, which is a bit low for that size of tent. However, I feel that it is better to do the best you can with what you have, rather than doing nothing at all. If you do upgrade down the road however you will likely see better results :)
Our SF-4000's are the old style without dimmers, so they were at full power. In flower we had them at right around 24" above the canopy, which was giving us 750-850 PAR at the canopy. We had to raise them up at the end though when we had that heat spike, we just couldn't cool the garage down enough and had to get the lights a bit further from the plants. One thing to remember though is that we had three of the lights in the same tent, so they were able to splash each other with light which brought our PAR levels up. I am working on getting an updated SF-4000 so that I can test its light levels out, and will also be doing things like this where I try the different lights out in different tents to see how they do. Hope that helps!
It is hard to say that, as it is going to depend on the ambient air temperature, and the amount of air changes the fan is able to do. We don't do indoor grows in the winter as we can't keep the tents cool enough =)
Did you need an additional timer to run the two lights? I have this same setup and I can’t seem to get both to shut off with only one plugged into the timer
It is a bit small, Spider Farmer lists the SF-1000 as able to cover a 2'x2' area. What you can do though is hang them both on one side of the tent, and give yourself room to expand with more light later =)
@@TheHippieGeeks Thanks for the reply! i see what i did now, i got my math wrong thinking 4x4 was only twice as big as 2x2, when its actually 4 times as much area. Ill buy a sf2000 to add to this and should be the correct amount, right?
Thanks for the great video! I have the same setup, but my sf1000 is the one without the dimmer switch so they are not daisy chained. I'm at day 4 of seedlings, I have the sf2000 at 40% and the sf1000 at 50watts (50%), both at 30 inches. Does this sound reasonable? What would you recommend? Thanks
Those sound like decent numbers to start out with, just watch the plants and see what they are telling you. If they are stretching up tall too quickly they probably want more light, if they are bleaching out and bending away from the light it can be too much.
@@TheHotshot2369 I used to work on the highway up in that area and Southern Kansas. I actually live in gore by lake tenkiller. I have five beautiful ladies growing right now. 3 indoors and two monsters outside. Can't wait for harvest!! Anyway good talking to you happy growing bro.
i would like to know this too bro what height and power is your sf4000 at during flower, nice vido ......hit the like and sub people !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Dustin Callison 1 hour ago What height do you hang your sf4000 during flower? And what setting do you have it on? Thx
Our SF-4000's are the old style without dimmers, so they were at full power. In flower we had them at right around 24" above the canopy, which was giving us 750-850 PAR at the canopy. We had to raise them up at the end though when we had that heat spike, we just couldn't cool the garage down enough and had to get the lights a bit further from the plants. One thing to remember though is that we had three of the lights in the same tent, so they were able to splash each other with light which brought our PAR levels up. I am working on getting an updated SF-4000 so that I can test its light levels out, and will also be doing things like this where I try the different lights out in different tents to see how they do. Hope that helps!
Just got an SF2000 yesterday to replace a T5 in my small tent and within minutes my plants reacted like crazy to it! I know I just got it but after just one day and everything I've seen from you guys and the other channels I watch I feel like I can say Spider Farmer is the shit!! Nice makeshift 3000!
Yeah, going from T5's to one of these SF series lights is crazy. We were using T5's and blurpie lights at first, and the results under these have been so much better.
Thanks for the friendly vacation wishes. I appreciate that. I will try to make a video while I’m there!
Nice man! I have a hard time wanting to make videos when I am on vacation, I am all about being in the moment when possible and I actually manage to get away =)
As a new grower I purchased a 2x4 tent. Being no expert I still recognized the sf1000 light would not be enough ideally. This video was exactly what I was looking for. I have been wondering if I should add an additional sf1000 or step up to the sf2000. Now I know!!!!! You guys are doing great work.. keep it up! Be safe..be healthy
I love hearing when the videos are able to help folks out! Thank you for watching =)
sf-2000 is best for 2ftx3ft flowering. ive seen enough 3rd party testing and my own showing sf 2000 working best in a 2ftx3ft tent there just isnt enought light for the edges for filling a 2x4 with optimal even growth. i currently use sf2000 and sf1000 in my oversized 2x4 and and i hang them around 20-30 inches from the canopy. it has been a game changer for sure.
I actually just found a whole bunch of footage that I thought was lost, it is 2x SF-2000 in the oversized 2x4 that they have, which filled that canopy out really well. Going to be uploading all of that to the channel soon =)
The SF1000 and SF2000 is exactly what I have running in my SF2x4 tent. Excellent results on my last run.
Nice! I am also going to be doing some testing of their slightly larger 2x4 tent with 2x SF-2000's, as they will just fit in there =)
@@TheHippieGeeks that’s a great idea 2 sf2000 in 2x4! Can’t wait to see that grow
Did you run both lights during seedling stage? If so, what hight and percentage?
Cool idea to combine the two lights!!!!
It worked out really well to fill the space with light :)
Awesome! Its crazy how I stumbled upon this. I actually did this my last grow in my Goliath 2x4. The results were outstanding.
That is awesome! Thanks for watching!
I have the sf1000 tent kit, love it. I just built a DIY tent the same size and I just got a maxsisun pb1000 which Amazon recommended. Im currently comparing them.
Nice! I love a good comparison :)
Thanks for the vid! I rushed out and got 2 sf2000's for my 4x4, thinking it would be even enough numbers, but it's not perfect.
I'm fixated on doing a SOG so I have the brilliant idea of doing 4 sf2000's and dimming it to around 600w.
These numbers would be pretty close to what I'm out to achieve, thanks again for the content brother
Before buying any more SF-2000, check out the SE-7000 on their website. We haven't gotten it to test yet, but I really like the SE-5000 and the SE-7000 would fill out a 4x4 tent really nicely. This is of course if you have the funds, as that thing is not cheap. Just another possibility though, especially if you are concerned about having even light across the canopy.
@@TheHippieGeeks it's all I could afford at the time and it works out slightly cheaper. Plus the way the lights are arranged it will end up having a gap in the centre, the light spread will be more even than the se7000
That would be a dream of mine to get 4 SF2K’s for my 4x4! Let me know if it’s perfect.
Also always great content! I appreciate the time you take to make these videos! I can just imagine the time it would take to get all these accurate number on par. Keep up the good work you are a blessing to this community
It is a bit. This tent at least was pretty small, when I do the measurements with the 5'x5' grid there six different heights, and each height needs 121 measurements. Then add in the measurements at different power levels and I am up above 1000 different readings before it is all said and done =)
So many vids this week! Thx for the awesome content as always
We have been pushing out three videos a week for a bit now, and the last couple of weeks has been four, which is pretty crazy. When we started, I was barely able to get a single video out per week =)
Exact setup I have and Ilove it, cant wait to see yields.
Thanks for watching =)
great idea! very cool makes a lot of sense for that space.
Yeah, I expected it to improve things, but it was surprising just how much higher all of the light levels were.
I run the SF2000 & SF1000 like this in a 2x4. 80% is my limit using hanging height to adjust. At 100% I get temp issues.
Spider Farmer is the best!!
We have really enjoyed working with them for sure :)
Good video very informative except I have the same set up and I can’t get both lights to work on one dimmer
Hmmm, try switching the switch on the back of the second one off and see if it works then.
I just got one with your code thanks
Awesome!
@@TheHippieGeeks just got the 2x4 tent with sf2000 and a sf1000
I have sf1000 in my 2x2 and sf4000 in my 4x4.
Our SF-4000's are the old style without dimmers, so they were at full power. In flower we had them at right around 24" above the canopy, which was giving us 750-850 PAR at the canopy. We had to raise them up at the end though when we had that heat spike, we just couldn't cool the garage down enough and had to get the lights a bit further from the plants. One thing to remember though is that we had three of the lights in the same tent, so they were able to splash each other with light which brought our PAR levels up. I am working on getting an updated SF-4000 so that I can test its light levels out, and will also be doing things like this where I try the different lights out in different tents to see how they do. Hope that helps!
Looks great brother 💚
Thanks for watching =)
NICE 😎
Thanks for watching!
I did the same thing works great...
Yeah, it really brought those edge levels up and made it a lot more usable.
I thought the Spider farmer Tent is 28X55 BROTHA! KEPT on thinking why my par number where different then yours.
They have two different tents, this size specifically comes with the SF-2000 kit, and the slightly larger one comes by itself. I am not sure why they are doing it this way, but it is slightly confusing for sure.
You're the GOAT
@The Hippie Geeks I have this exact set up about to start my first grow.
I'm still trying to understand all these par figures. Would you mind sharing the light height and dimmer % at each stage of growth 👍
What I can do is share the light levels that we look like at the different stages of growth. When a seed pops we like to have the light level between 100-150 PAR. We will slowly increase that over the first three weeks up to around 350 PAR. Over the course of veg, we will be increasing the light levels to around 550 PAR. Getting into flower, we steadily increase the light levels to the 750 PAR level. Now, all of that is going to change depending on how the plant reacts to the light. Some will want more, some will want less it just kind of depends. With those numbers in mind, you should be able to use the PAR readings we show along with the PAR x multipliers to find what the best height / dim settings are.
@@TheHippieGeeks thank you so much for your reply , it's appreciated
You bet, thanks for watching =)
can you please! please! do a short vid doing the same par tests but with sf4000 + sf2000 inna 4x4 tent? please
I have both of these lights and just looking to find out are these measurements from the floor up or the distance between the top of the plant and the light
All of our measurements are from the light to the "canopy" which in this case is 1 inch off of the floor as that is the height of the sensor. However, the distance listed is from the sensor to the light, so 12" would be 12" above the sensor, or 13" from the floor.
Now could one do the same light combo (sf1000 + sf2000) in a 2x2? Or would that be a no no?
Not enough room for both of them unfortunately,, we are currently doing a grow with a P2000 in a 2x2 which is a ton of light.
Woot
Thank you for watching!
I’ve been looking at a better grow light for my 2x4 grow tent I have a toad 1000w light now which isn’t that good I’ve heard
If I find the right one on Amazon, it looks like it only pulls 135 watts from the wall, which is a bit low for that size of tent. However, I feel that it is better to do the best you can with what you have, rather than doing nothing at all. If you do upgrade down the road however you will likely see better results :)
What height do you hang your sf4000 during flower? And what setting do you have it on? Thx
Our SF-4000's are the old style without dimmers, so they were at full power. In flower we had them at right around 24" above the canopy, which was giving us 750-850 PAR at the canopy. We had to raise them up at the end though when we had that heat spike, we just couldn't cool the garage down enough and had to get the lights a bit further from the plants. One thing to remember though is that we had three of the lights in the same tent, so they were able to splash each other with light which brought our PAR levels up. I am working on getting an updated SF-4000 so that I can test its light levels out, and will also be doing things like this where I try the different lights out in different tents to see how they do. Hope that helps!
@@TheHippieGeeks yeah I have the new dimmer version and I have it set at 23" above the canopy and I am 21 days in flower with dial set at 70%
How was the heat in the tent? my sf2000, makes it about 80 during the day
It is hard to say that, as it is going to depend on the ambient air temperature, and the amount of air changes the fan is able to do. We don't do indoor grows in the winter as we can't keep the tents cool enough =)
Did you need an additional timer to run the two lights? I have this same setup and I can’t seem to get both to shut off with only one plugged into the timer
We do use separate timers for each light.
im doing 2xSF1000's in a 4x4. Is that enough for the size?
It is a bit small, Spider Farmer lists the SF-1000 as able to cover a 2'x2' area. What you can do though is hang them both on one side of the tent, and give yourself room to expand with more light later =)
@@TheHippieGeeks Thanks for the reply! i see what i did now, i got my math wrong thinking 4x4 was only twice as big as 2x2, when its actually 4 times as much area. Ill buy a sf2000 to add to this and should be the correct amount, right?
Thanks for the great video! I have the same setup, but my sf1000 is the one without the dimmer switch so they are not daisy chained. I'm at day 4 of seedlings, I have the sf2000 at 40% and the sf1000 at 50watts (50%), both at 30 inches. Does this sound reasonable? What would you recommend? Thanks
Those sound like decent numbers to start out with, just watch the plants and see what they are telling you. If they are stretching up tall too quickly they probably want more light, if they are bleaching out and bending away from the light it can be too much.
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Thanks for watching =)
You a fellow okie Too? I live in the east central part around Muskogee
@@dustincallison7650 yes sir I'm around Bartlesville
@@TheHotshot2369 I used to work on the highway up in that area and Southern Kansas. I actually live in gore by lake tenkiller. I have five beautiful ladies growing right now. 3 indoors and two monsters outside. Can't wait for harvest!! Anyway good talking to you happy growing bro.
@@dustincallison7650 you have ig?...my name is the same on there
i would like to know this too bro what height and power is your sf4000 at during flower, nice vido ......hit the like and sub people !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Dustin Callison
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What height do you hang your sf4000 during flower? And what setting do you have it on? Thx
Our SF-4000's are the old style without dimmers, so they were at full power. In flower we had them at right around 24" above the canopy, which was giving us 750-850 PAR at the canopy. We had to raise them up at the end though when we had that heat spike, we just couldn't cool the garage down enough and had to get the lights a bit further from the plants. One thing to remember though is that we had three of the lights in the same tent, so they were able to splash each other with light which brought our PAR levels up. I am working on getting an updated SF-4000 so that I can test its light levels out, and will also be doing things like this where I try the different lights out in different tents to see how they do. Hope that helps!
@@TheHippieGeeks ty brother have a great day my friend
You too!