Great show, thank you! My simple opinion, if I may is: All this terp, color, aromas, bag appeal, taste hype is good for the recreational user. The effect is so neglected these days and as a medical patient, all I care is the effect, not to mention the enjoyability of these effects regarding extreme pain, mood and all around wellness. Ask yourself: Would you rather smoke the best tasting, bag appeal, aroma buds if it gave you paranoia or a feeling of a sledgehammer on your head effect, with a bad comedown? Or, a bad tasting, awfull looking bud that gives you a blissfull , almost surreal wellness effect? Most will say, best of both worlds of course, but in these days and time, that's called utopia! As Tommy Chong said recently in a well known podcast about how strong cannabis has become since the 60's-70's, and I quote: It's the same plant, we've just fucked it up for money purposes! I remember how you could tell exactly what you were smoking by the effect you got. Colombian Gold, Jamaican, Hawaiian, Afghani, Panama Red, etc... I have not found any to come close except 4 or 5, among the 735+ different strains that I keep a log on, that I have smoked. I did many tests at wine tasting events, many years ago (I don't drink anymore) and loved a 45$ bottle over 600$ bottles... Probably I don't try to over complicate things and not a snobby afficionado like the wine world has become. Different strains, for different brains is so true. Just my 2 cents! Cheers
I’m a budtender n It’s funny bc people come into the shop n want the highest thc. I try to sus out the kind of high they want, explaining that you don’t go to the bar n ask for the highest proof alcohol expecting a more quality buzz 😂
It's amazing how much you can learn from just listening to two people have an intelligent conversation about something they both cherish or hold in high regard in some way I guess the way I would put it is they both deeply respect this plant on many levels and listening to their conversation was both very informative and quite entertaining so ty for letting us listen in on this conversation
Thank you Gary! I have dedicated my life to learning all I can about this plant, I'm extremely passionate about it. Your words make all the sacrifices, holidays/birthdays spent in the grow, and countless hours of studying all seem worth it. Glad you found this video informative and entertaining.
Wow at 35:00 the way things are being described is life! Narrowing things for exact medical and lifestyle applications. Amazing conversation.Healing epilepsy and diabetes I really feel this.
Exactly, and that terpy expression will always be a photo. Every1 pushes these autos like there in the same ball game as photos. Facts are yes there getting better but , not there yer! Long way to beat photoswhy would any1 knowingly buy inferior genetics like autos when there has been so much great photo work done . Autos are for noobs learning the plant , as there much more forgiving
@@jeremyvigil4138 thc has its place, anything over 20% with no terps or desired effects tells the entire story...most weed over twenty percent that has no terps or desired effects = old ass bunk weed.
Great stream👍, i agree with all that was said except for yield per sqaure feet or meter. That is all about the light spectrum and intensity. From a single 600w hps lamp most strains will give 400 gr and over (not all ofcourse). A 600w light is used to light a squared meter or 2 . something feet (6 or 8? Im dutch we use meters, 3 sqaured feet is 1.2m or 120cm sqaured). When you get more than 500 gram of an average performing strain from a 600w light bulb, you are a good grower yield wise.
This is why I get different expressions in the spot I do things in the summer and in winter times even the same cuttings do different things in the two seasons. I time it specifically for this I chose to finish equitorials in the summer and more afghan type in the winter I get phenomenal results this why out of both but it took me years to dial these in and timing is everything especially if done outdoors. Some of the landrace “nld” I like can still finish in very cold temps because of the varieties I choose.
I don’t care how colorful the bud is, I go by how frosty and sticky it is and if I can stick it to a window, or have it stick to my finger just by touching it.
33:50 but how do you want to classify cultivars according to terpene profiles, if some of the most important substances like thiols can't be analysed with normal methods and even small changes in the amount of those thiols, esters, etc. can change how the whole terpene profile will affect you? Just think about the difference of pure terpene blends based on the available analysis and how the flower smells, all those funky cheesy catty etc. flavours are missing and I'd say they have equal or more impact than the terpenes on how the flower smells and feels like.
50:00 Talking about RnD for cannabis i dustry is really exciting tbh. Finding some kinda soil temp and ambient temp should be better guage than leaf temp too tbh
Autos have been absolutely great for about 5yrs as a breeder autos are awesome and all this bs people hating on them people need to think about how long photos have been worked with in comparison and autos have caught up to photos in the last 5yrs so another 5yrs should show the autos full potential. Also there are tons of crap genetics that are around both photo and auto and most of the supposedly amazing cultivars ive tried from multiple growers including myself and they dont stand up to alot of the older varieties
As a habitual pot smoker, this video is like an ironic cosmic horror of the stoner. You just want to roll and smoke, you don't want to have to micromanage nature for some conditional maximum output. It's gloriously ironic. I love it.
So I get what you mean but when you say “You just want to….” I think you really mean “I just want to….” because for some people it absolutely is about finding a certain taste, smell or effect and to do that may require some micromanagement which they’re happy to do
I been smoking for over 30 years but not in a place where there is a lot of growers. Weed has been medical here for over 10 years & yet the best 5 strains I have ever smoked came from a local grower?? Why is dispensary weed not better than blueberry I got 20 years ago?
Most dispensary weed is weed that’s commercially produced there is no love put in its machine trimmed, harvested before it has a chance to reach its fullest potential. I don’t know. Weed growing has been a hobby product for decades now big weed is coming in and crushing some of the best growers in the world. I don’t smoke weed but I would rather support a local grower rather than a “Walmart” grower/producer.
Hydro all the way Ebb and Flow and have a good water chiller i had to build my own its the only way to go with super clean water the smoke taste so much better
people should be aloud to grow there own in and outdoor people who cant afford power costs can just do poly house / outdoor plants just like fruits and veggies then if you want a higher grade or medical you can have the option to go source it from them but no one in the world should be forced or controlled to go one way only
Not at all. The issue is being able to control your environment for the home grower. Not all home growers have the money or situation to be able to have a climate controlled facility/ room. It may take us much longer to find a specific pheno or strain that does well in our environment and produces the right amount of thc and terpenes to satisfy our desired effect. Plus we would usually want a few different profiles for our day to day consumption. It’s a long but fun process.
Part of the problem is that some people believe that unless the flower is esthetically pleasing that it isn't medical grade. Unless you have a environmentally controlled space for not only the grow but the dry and curing area you are never going to be able to produce the same level of quality that is able to be grown in a professional setting. The point being as long as the genetics are solid along with the right fundamentals of the grow, will still produce solid quality product. It's only been the last 30 years that anyone could have all the bells and whistles when cultivating cannabis. I would personally be more concerned with homogenized cannabis that quality is solely determined by thc numerics. Some of the best cannabis in the world only tests in the mid teens. Which most newer consumers would say "that's mids not top shelf." Then they smoke it and are stupid high. Genetics matter was the main point of the presentation. Along with the hunt is sometimes better than the catch.
He even says in the beginning that it's about indoor businesses, not private cultivation. Your comment is completely unnecessary. Even private growers are interested in pheno hunting to keep a good mother plant for clone grows. If you don't care what you smoke then fine but why criticize business models and technique to improve what you produce!? Just smoke your bud but don't moan around when others want to improve their methods..
Wow thanks for the excellent information. All growers of food have so much to learn from you cannabis growers that can be applied to growing better food crops.
There's a Man Named Aaron Murakami who has a channel by the same name. He does a lecture and has links to other lectures at Emediapress for practical ways to use resonant electricity to strengthen plants and improve their ability to intake water and many other beneficial effects. I couldn't afford the full length lectures but they look like revolutionary beneficial effects on plants and humans alike. There's a thing called a Lahkovsky Oscillator and some of the same principles are involved but it would awesome to have them on or spread it to others in the community to experiment with themselves.
Focus on genetics and environment and the 17 macro and micronutrient elements that plants need. They are: carbon (C), hydrogen (H), oxygen (O), nitrogen (N), phosphorus (P), potassium (K), sulfur (S), cal- cium (Ca), magnesium (Mg), boron (B), chlorine (Cl), copper (Cu), iron (Fe), manganese (Mn), molybdenum (Mo), nickel (Ni), and zinc (Zn). I spent years chasing extra yield increases, and soil and tissue tests were the most valuable investment besides a controlled environment. Happy Growing!
Is the cat piss cup still on the cards??? Would love to know/see the discussion on that! Love the shows all really cool to hear and learn the story’s from everyone! 🤙🏼
I had a buddy about 10 years who had grew 2 strains, Black Dominican and L.A. Confidential. The L.A. Confidential he wouldn't share a clone with anyone. Was very flavorful. One of the first time I smoked it b4 I knew the guy, a buddy bought 2 oz and he was bagging up Into dimes as I walked Into his room and immediately Said "Ugh! Bro did you get a cat? It smells like straight cat piss in here" and he says yo that's just the bud and I see like a half Oz out on newspaper. If you pulled on an unlit joint clip it was like rancid piss, but as soon as it was lit it tasted amazing. I think a search through DNA genetics L.A. confidential may yield a cat piss phenotype. I've also had other DNA La conf. That was 100% the DNA with a very similar structure, color, and flavor as the pissy LA but it didn't have the outrageous pissyness in smell. Might be somewhere to look for the piss cause this stuff was exactly like James Loud describes.
@@Str8murkufool17 I had the opportunity to run a catpiss crop for some water hash. It came out very bright yellow ( almost white) looking and it smelled just like the name. Was super flavorful and it even melted about 70 percent completely with little char. Sadly someone broke into the work shop and stole all of it with the rest of the material being saved for more runs. Miss it so much
What i don’t like about soil is how long it takes to see results and what i mean by that is lets say you have a problem and try something to fix the problem with soil it takes days to see if it worked with hydro its hours
Very interesting! My question is : what would be the best VPD at night? Is it better to let the plant rest with a less agressive VPD or is it good to, for example, to lower relative humidity in order to keep a higer VPD ? Thank you!
VPD is more relevant during photosynthesis. Dew point and temperature is the critical metric at night and is more relevant to anthocyanin expressions. Hope this helps✌️
Most of the new strains are all commercialized, and soft hitting, THC content is high but the weed is weak no more Heavy Hitters, We have to contact the connoisseurs for this now 40% but the weed hits as soft or softer than granddaddy😂 I would rather have 12% THC heavy-hitter! As opposed to 40% blowing on air
Doing all this work only to have people trim with machines and tumblers.... There's a reason the legal market cannot compare to the traditional market. You gotta care, Growers in charge of multimillion dollar operations and they've never even had to feed themselves with their garden. Producing product so similar at a scale they want is impossible with something like cannabis much like it's impossible to produce the same tobacco in the hills of Appalachia mountains that's produced in Turkey. Same reason Parmesan cheese is only produced in one place on the planet, Enzymes. It's all going to be good in it's own way but we're not going to be able to make this as universal as they want it to be. Good thing is tho that we'll have special places that will produce the best, places that produce the most and so on. Variety is king.
Stop telling them how! These fat cats need to fall on ther face once n awhile. Builds character. Gota pay ur dues w this plant. She only rewards love and respect
Our fermented urine + composted fecal matter = microbial information (if we juice, eat seeds, leaves = full loop) to foliar spray the cannabis plant & tell it what kind of medicine to make for cancer & others hopefully :-)
@@pietroxavier2008 I capture urine every day for the FREE stem cells for my back pain; when gardening I put diluted urine in my buckets with more micribial & nutrient materials 🙂 Not freaking at all but thank you for the concern 🙂
@@mikespangler111 ok, could be that it can degradate to it's constitutional atoms/molecules, but in the end of the day they will only absorb it like every other macro/micronutrients from any fertilizant, they can't really "read" what is in your urine and then create specific cannabinoids or terpenes to heal it.
So I have this old bag o' seeds that i collected from stuff I purchased from a grower over a couple year period. The mother's a hermaphrodite diesel kush, from which you very rarely you get a single seed in a bud. Anyhow, both last and this year I got a single female that came up with a purple stem from 1st sprout, and not only does this color last throughout the lifespan of the plant. but every runner lacks bilateral symmetry. It 's leggy, has a raisiny / blue berry flavor / scent profile in comparison to a lemon diesel dominant expression. I don't believe that any of the mother's seeds are hermaphrodites themselves, and they are all female (no idea how).
I need this. Ive been growing for over 15 years now and its time to stop messing around with new seeds every few months. I need to make seeds from these regular seeds i got. I hope i can pull a male and a female . My buddy has 1 growing too so maybe he can get a male too. Gary payton cookies regular seeds.
Kwik seeds Or the real seed company I got my own lines that's I've worked from "gifted and bag" seeds... I haven't ordered from em yet, but i will..... Id stear away from cookies bro. 🙈🙉🙊
@@Aj_470 old ass viparspectra led and a 6in inline/carbon ... old ass fridge... was my first time messing with leds... was sufficiently impressed that I bought a brand new top end viparspectra led... and so far... definitely can recommend... lol previous experience was 15 yrs ago in CA prop215 with a 600hps...
Sooo about those fatso results…. Nobody gonna talk about how they literally saying that half of that cultivars biomass is purely trichomes? Including terpenes it’s over 47% trichomes. That’s some crazy claims there, I just can’t see it being true. If it is true it’s like a literal hash plant.
@@user-rh2gl8ot8q It is physically impossible for cannabis flowers to be over 40% THC, unless it is added after it is finished. Moon rocks are made not grown that way.
Great video. But I think what we know about THC is wrong, Some of the best smoke I have had, Was prob 15%. Other chemicals in them little heads work better magic than THC.
What I’ve always thought when you know you have solid seeds all the phenos will be close to eachother? It sounds like that’s what your saying aswel? Recently I heard a breeder say you’ll find a huge variation in his pack even both indica and sativa, when I heard this I was shocked so is that good like he says? He seeds are very pricey Great talk guys
The answer to both your questions is it depends. If you are buying a pack of seeds from a breeder and you desire and reason for purchasing the pack is that you want to grow plants that are going to look as close to the picture as possible and especially when feminized, want all the seeds in the pack to look a=and with as little as possible variation between them then you will likely be looking to buy from an experienced breeder who has worked the line of tht plaant likely for many generationa over years. Although theres no exact number of generations to go from say an F1 cross to a generation where the seeds produced are going to have that stability and have the highest percentage of similar plants produced you have to make selections from a large number ofoffspring produced either by line breedig where you take a male and female frome ach generationa and cross them to make the nxt generation, each time selecting the 2 plants that best express the phenotipical expressions that you are looking to produce with each generation, as you get rid of unwanted specimens you narrow down the gene pool (which we have sadly done with cannabis in general by always breeding for high thc costing us countless genetic variations we cant ever access again no matter how much we try to go back into the code of a plant) but you do thise more and more until finally your left with seeds that only have the genetic information that you have narrowed down to and thereby and only grow that genotypical expression of the plant and there is little to not other phenotypes because theres no other genetic information left to create a variation. You can still have the enviroment cause some variation but if you are growing them all in one place, same light then they should all look the same or very close to it. So likely the person who did all that work is going to want to make a little more money off those seeds than the person who just crosses a bunch of strains from other breeders and sells the f1s. It is also important for the gene pool ,and this is kind of off topic but important to not continue making the same mistakes we did in the past not knowing better, in order to ensure that we aren't further narrowing the gene pool its important to keep some of the seeds or plants from where you started your process of narowing down the variation thereby preserving all the genetic information of those cultivars you started with because you can only narrow down, not expand back out. Now to your second question, it also depends.. If you are buying say seeds from the f2 generation meaning you crossed 2 plants and then breed 1 of those offspring with one of its siblings , you are basically opening up the genetic code of the 2 plants you originally crossed so if the 2 parents that were originally used to make a certain hybrid where really awesome or rare but you cant buy either of those parents, then you have a chance of growing them by getting a bunch of the f2 seeds and hoping that one of the plants that comes out of growing them close to or fully expresses the genetic code of that original crosses parent plant. SO if someone crosses a sativa with an indica and you get those f2 seeds then yes, you will have a variety of sativas and indicias and crosses of both being produced by that same pack of seeds. Can someone charge alot for that ? Well, it depends... That Help ?
I think I may know who that “breeder” is. Although it may just be someone else I’ve seen mention that too. If it’s the same person I wouldn’t trust a word they say tbh. They’re full of shit.
I recommend autoflower after growing since the 90s I had the same view point on feminized seeds till I grew some same with autoflower seedstockers white widow nice smoke frosty sticky and you wouldn't be able to tell a pheno reg a fem or an autoflower give it a go especially if you are lucky enough to have a veg spot 😀
Great show, thank you! My simple opinion, if I may is: All this terp, color, aromas, bag appeal, taste hype is good for the recreational user. The effect is so neglected these days and as a medical patient, all I care is the effect, not to mention the enjoyability of these effects regarding extreme pain, mood and all around wellness. Ask yourself: Would you rather smoke the best tasting, bag appeal, aroma buds if it gave you paranoia or a feeling of a sledgehammer on your head effect, with a bad comedown? Or, a bad tasting, awfull looking bud that gives you a blissfull , almost surreal wellness effect? Most will say, best of both worlds of course, but in these days and time, that's called utopia! As Tommy Chong said recently in a well known podcast about how strong cannabis has become since the 60's-70's, and I quote: It's the same plant, we've just fucked it up for money purposes! I remember how you could tell exactly what you were smoking by the effect you got. Colombian Gold, Jamaican, Hawaiian, Afghani, Panama Red, etc... I have not found any to come close except 4 or 5, among the 735+ different strains that I keep a log on, that I have smoked. I did many tests at wine tasting events, many years ago (I don't drink anymore) and loved a 45$ bottle over 600$ bottles... Probably I don't try to over complicate things and not a snobby afficionado like the wine world has become. Different strains, for different brains is so true. Just my 2 cents! Cheers
terpenes have medical effects
perfectly said...
I’m a budtender n It’s funny bc people come into the shop n want the highest thc. I try to sus out the kind of high they want, explaining that you don’t go to the bar n ask for the highest proof alcohol expecting a more quality buzz 😂
Simple opinion😂😂
I appreciated this show. There were lots of gold nuggets in there. Happy growing. Peace.
It's amazing how much you can learn from just listening to two people have an intelligent conversation about something they both cherish or hold in high regard in some way I guess the way I would put it is they both deeply respect this plant on many levels and listening to their conversation was both very informative and quite entertaining so ty for letting us listen in on this conversation
Thank you Gary! I have dedicated my life to learning all I can about this plant, I'm extremely passionate about it. Your words make all the sacrifices, holidays/birthdays spent in the grow, and countless hours of studying all seem worth it. Glad you found this video informative and entertaining.
Wow at 35:00 the way things are being described is life! Narrowing things for exact medical and lifestyle applications. Amazing conversation.Healing epilepsy and diabetes I really feel this.
Sometimes a nice terpy strain is way better than a high thc I feel
It’s always better
Exactly, and that terpy expression will always be a photo. Every1 pushes these autos like there in the same ball game as photos. Facts are yes there getting better but , not there yer! Long way to beat photoswhy would any1 knowingly buy inferior genetics like autos when there has been so much great photo work done . Autos are for noobs learning the plant , as there much more forgiving
I absolutely agree.
I'd way rather it taste dank then have a really high thc level.
@@jeremyvigil4138 thc has its place, anything over 20% with no terps or desired effects tells the entire story...most weed over twenty percent that has no terps or desired effects = old ass bunk weed.
Indoor growing has changed my world.
Congratulations on the baby 👶 🙌
Grazie 🙏🏼
yup its all about the pheno hunt of the seed packs,thx for the upload ,lots great info
Great episode! I love science driven presentations over opinionated discussions!
Thank you gentlemen!
I work in the cannabis industry in Nevada and this is absolutely useful information that will help me out within the industry..
Hey Jesse! I used to go to your grow store in Oakland! Oakland Grown! Good to listen to you talk! Take care!
OAKLANDISH !!!!
Great stream👍, i agree with all that was said except for yield per sqaure feet or meter.
That is all about the light spectrum and intensity.
From a single 600w hps lamp most strains will give 400 gr and over (not all ofcourse).
A 600w light is used to light a squared meter or 2 . something feet (6 or 8? Im dutch we use meters, 3 sqaured feet is 1.2m or 120cm sqaured).
When you get more than 500 gram of an average performing strain from a 600w light bulb, you are a good grower yield wise.
Some good stuff in this episode! 🙌 Lfg pheno hunters!!! ♥️💪
great video guys, thanks, been following the chanel for a long time and i can see these new videos are getting really informative
Best info vid I could’ve watched to really learn the genetics and ground of pheno & pheno hunting!! Definitely rewatching
This was awesome, great job everyone involved, thx🤙🍻💨
Thanks for the info greatly appreciate it.
This is why I get different expressions in the spot I do things in the summer and in winter times even the same cuttings do different things in the two seasons. I time it specifically for this I chose to finish equitorials in the summer and more afghan type in the winter I get phenomenal results this why out of both but it took me years to dial these in and timing is everything especially if done outdoors. Some of the landrace “nld” I like can still finish in very cold temps because of the varieties I choose.
wow thank you for all this information and insight !!!
How did I miss this? Rewind time!
It was all that gosh darn skunk... ge golly...
I don’t care how colorful the bud is, I go by how frosty and sticky it is and if I can stick it to a window, or have it stick to my finger just by touching it.
so you like greasy strains
This was phenomenal
Wow amazing work fellas
So did secondary metabolites in my Gelato33 come from the Durban and Girl Scouts genetics carry on into the (S1)through recessive traits for S1 seed ?
33:50 but how do you want to classify cultivars according to terpene profiles, if some of the most important substances like thiols can't be analysed with normal methods and even small changes in the amount of those thiols, esters, etc. can change how the whole terpene profile will affect you? Just think about the difference of pure terpene blends based on the available analysis and how the flower smells, all those funky cheesy catty etc. flavours are missing and I'd say they have equal or more impact than the terpenes on how the flower smells and feels like.
*scratching neck*
Y'all got any more of that environmental crop steering info?
50:00 Talking about RnD for cannabis i dustry is really exciting tbh. Finding some kinda soil temp and ambient temp should be better guage than leaf temp too tbh
Autos have been absolutely great for about 5yrs as a breeder autos are awesome and all this bs people hating on them people need to think about how long photos have been worked with in comparison and autos have caught up to photos in the last 5yrs so another 5yrs should show the autos full potential. Also there are tons of crap genetics that are around both photo and auto and most of the supposedly amazing cultivars ive tried from multiple growers including myself and they dont stand up to alot of the older varieties
As a habitual pot smoker, this video is like an ironic cosmic horror of the stoner. You just want to roll and smoke, you don't want to have to micromanage nature for some conditional maximum output. It's gloriously ironic. I love it.
So I get what you mean but when you say “You just want to….” I think you really mean “I just want to….” because for some people it absolutely is about finding a certain taste, smell or effect and to do that may require some micromanagement which they’re happy to do
control freaks can't just let nature be.
@@SqeakyToy If “control freaks” didn’t apply science to growing weed you would still be smoking low grade outdoor cannabis lmao
@@ryanb6614 bullshit Ryan I have been growing high grade for 30 years.
@@SqeakyToy lmao doubt that
At 10:18 he says, "...the slower the metabolic plate of the rant will be."
That was fun
lol
cannabis is just Paradise
Outdoors I suppose the biggest thing is finding a cultivar that works well with what you have to work with
Do frequencies pumped into the room make a difference to you guys? Thanks for sharing
What kinda music classical?
enjoyed the video!
I have a bag of probably 5000 purple Kush seeds. I wonder if there’s a lotto winner pheno in that bag….
Send me 100 seeds and I'll give you 2 pounds within 8 months !
@ ya ok. I’ll be minus 100 seeds but gain in empty promises
Pheno-menal show!
awesome. thank you for your information my friends
One of the very few times i heard, hiw many times does it get touched during the whole cycle?
Very nice👍
I never knew what i was doing was called crop steering but thats a good name for it
Now this school. I would pay for this type of information💛
Biggest fucking mistake of new growers is, learning online jajajajajajaja
@@Aj_470 Yup. Their minds will be fucked pretty hard if they don't dive in and start learning hands on like @Noneya fkinbusiness said LOL
A lil bro in the making
I been smoking for over 30 years but not in a place where there is a lot of growers. Weed has been medical here for over 10 years & yet the best 5 strains I have ever smoked came from a local grower?? Why is dispensary weed not better than blueberry I got 20 years ago?
Most dispensary weed is weed that’s commercially produced there is no love put in its machine trimmed, harvested before it has a chance to reach its fullest potential. I don’t know. Weed growing has been a hobby product for decades now big weed is coming in and crushing some of the best growers in the world. I don’t smoke weed but I would rather support a local grower rather than a “Walmart” grower/producer.
Everyone knows a cobra fang through the main stem makes your weed stronger. Read it in my first cannabis book way back when 😂
Hahaha
Yeah well that's just extreme HST init? Lol
The 1907 annual report of the Hortaculture Society of Havana mentions this
Hydro all the way Ebb and Flow and have a good water chiller i had to build my own its the only way to go with super clean water the smoke taste so much better
People in Jamaica have the real purple that was always grown in very high heat.
The home grower just wants to grow his own meds as easily and as cost-effective as they can. That's not too much to ask, is it?
I agree basic home growers don't need some ultra rare super duper pheno you need to get the "MOST" out of, there's plenty of legit strains out there.
people should be aloud to grow there own in and outdoor people who cant afford power costs can just do poly house / outdoor plants just like fruits and veggies then if you want a higher grade or medical you can have the option to go source it from them but no one in the world should be forced or controlled to go one way only
Not at all. The issue is being able to control your environment for the home grower. Not all home growers have the money or situation to be able to have a climate controlled facility/ room.
It may take us much longer to find a specific pheno or strain that does well in our environment and produces the right amount of thc and terpenes to satisfy our desired effect. Plus we would usually want a few different profiles for our day to day consumption. It’s a long but fun process.
Part of the problem is that some people believe that unless the flower is esthetically pleasing that it isn't medical grade. Unless you have a environmentally controlled space for not only the grow but the dry and curing area you are never going to be able to produce the same level of quality that is able to be grown in a professional setting. The point being as long as the genetics are solid along with the right fundamentals of the grow, will still produce solid quality product. It's only been the last 30 years that anyone could have all the bells and whistles when cultivating cannabis. I would personally be more concerned with homogenized cannabis that quality is solely determined by thc numerics. Some of the best cannabis in the world only tests in the mid teens. Which most newer consumers would say "that's mids not top shelf." Then they smoke it and are stupid high. Genetics matter was the main point of the presentation. Along with the hunt is sometimes better than the catch.
He even says in the beginning that it's about indoor businesses, not private cultivation.
Your comment is completely unnecessary.
Even private growers are interested in pheno hunting to keep a good mother plant for clone grows.
If you don't care what you smoke then fine but why criticize business models and technique to improve what you produce!?
Just smoke your bud but don't moan around when others want to improve their methods..
Cheers my brother
I just look for one that checks all the boxes, it's like a needle in a haystack. As long as it gets me really stoned, that's the best one.
what are some cultivars with low or no pheno plasticity?
Congrats on the new new!! Also love these high level talks!!!!
Fake science
MAD SCIENCE ! ! !
What does light on temp, vs off mean?
Wow thanks for the excellent information. All growers of food have so much to learn from you cannabis growers that can be applied to growing better food crops.
All the years of research and not yet isolated all the different cannabinoids.. I cant belive It bro
Researchers get killed by pharma goons for working on Cannabis
@@howiegruwitz3173 they are already on the stock market dude...they just dont give a fuck about it
There's a Man Named Aaron Murakami who has a channel by the same name. He does a lecture and has links to other lectures at Emediapress for practical ways to use resonant electricity to strengthen plants and improve their ability to intake water and many other beneficial effects. I couldn't afford the full length lectures but they look like revolutionary beneficial effects on plants and humans alike. There's a thing called a Lahkovsky Oscillator and some of the same principles are involved but it would awesome to have them on or spread it to others in the community to experiment with themselves.
Focus on genetics and environment and the 17 macro and micronutrient elements that plants need. They are: carbon (C), hydrogen (H), oxygen (O), nitrogen (N), phosphorus (P), potassium (K), sulfur (S), cal- cium (Ca), magnesium (Mg), boron (B), chlorine (Cl), copper (Cu), iron (Fe), manganese (Mn), molybdenum (Mo), nickel (Ni), and zinc (Zn). I spent years chasing extra yield increases, and soil and tissue tests were the most valuable investment besides a controlled environment. Happy Growing!
@@stuartdutameier not wrong, but electricity is an untapped resource
Is the cat piss cup still on the cards??? Would love to know/see the discussion on that! Love the shows all really cool to hear and learn the story’s from everyone! 🤙🏼
I had a buddy about 10 years who had grew 2 strains, Black Dominican and L.A. Confidential. The L.A. Confidential he wouldn't share a clone with anyone. Was very flavorful. One of the first time I smoked it b4 I knew the guy, a buddy bought 2 oz and he was bagging up Into dimes as I walked Into his room and immediately Said "Ugh! Bro did you get a cat? It smells like straight cat piss in here" and he says yo that's just the bud and I see like a half Oz out on newspaper. If you pulled on an unlit joint clip it was like rancid piss, but as soon as it was lit it tasted amazing. I think a search through DNA genetics L.A. confidential may yield a cat piss phenotype. I've also had other DNA La conf. That was 100% the DNA with a very similar structure, color, and flavor as the pissy LA but it didn't have the outrageous pissyness in smell. Might be somewhere to look for the piss cause this stuff was exactly like James Loud describes.
@@Str8murkufool17 I had the opportunity to run a catpiss crop for some water hash. It came out very bright yellow ( almost white) looking and it smelled just like the name. Was super flavorful and it even melted about 70 percent completely with little char. Sadly someone broke into the work shop and stole all of it with the rest of the material being saved for more runs.
Miss it so much
Probably not because I am the only one that has come forward with real CP flower that has lineage from the original 90’s CP.
@@kauaivip9750 ahh you’re one of those guys.. you’re probably right. The only guy who has the cat piss in all of the world.
@@Kruizzer lol
What i don’t like about soil is how long it takes to see results and what i mean by that is lets say you have a problem and try something to fix the problem with soil it takes days to see if it worked with hydro its hours
Very interesting! My question is : what would be the best VPD at night? Is it better to let the plant rest with a less agressive VPD or is it good to, for example, to lower relative humidity in order to keep a higer VPD ? Thank you!
VPD is more relevant during photosynthesis. Dew point and temperature is the critical metric at night and is more relevant to anthocyanin expressions. Hope this helps✌️
Most of the new strains are all commercialized, and soft hitting, THC content is high but the weed is weak no more Heavy Hitters, We have to contact the connoisseurs for this now 40% but the weed hits as soft or softer than granddaddy😂 I would rather have 12% THC heavy-hitter! As opposed to 40% blowing on air
Ooooooooo this was good
That good feeling, is all about the terps, that bad feeling is also about the terps
Where was this video when I was battling over this term for years...
You want a new battle?
Thx 💚
Sounds like they're trying to win that game that one called Monopoly
Cool video. Lots of knowledge to glean
Nope. Fake it til you make it has officially become mucked it til you fuct it with these ass clowns
Doing all this work only to have people trim with machines and tumblers.... There's a reason the legal market cannot compare to the traditional market. You gotta care, Growers in charge of multimillion dollar operations and they've never even had to feed themselves with their garden. Producing product so similar at a scale they want is impossible with something like cannabis much like it's impossible to produce the same tobacco in the hills of Appalachia mountains that's produced in Turkey. Same reason Parmesan cheese is only produced in one place on the planet, Enzymes. It's all going to be good in it's own way but we're not going to be able to make this as universal as they want it to be. Good thing is tho that we'll have special places that will produce the best, places that produce the most and so on. Variety is king.
Stop telling them how! These fat cats need to fall on ther face once n awhile. Builds character. Gota pay ur dues w this plant. She only rewards love and respect
@@playbytherootz4777 most dispensaries do not provide in house flower, that alone should tell you something...
Our fermented urine + composted fecal matter = microbial information (if we juice, eat seeds, leaves = full loop) to foliar spray the cannabis plant & tell it what kind of medicine to make for cancer & others hopefully :-)
Im not goong to smoke a crop sprayed with human piss and shit.
that's not how it works, you're freaking out
@@pietroxavier2008 I capture urine every day for the FREE stem cells for my back pain; when gardening I put diluted urine in my buckets with more micribial & nutrient materials 🙂 Not freaking at all but thank you for the concern 🙂
@@mikespangler111 ok, could be that it can degradate to it's constitutional atoms/molecules, but in the end of the day they will only absorb it like every other macro/micronutrients from any fertilizant, they can't really "read" what is in your urine and then create specific cannabinoids or terpenes to heal it.
So I have this old bag o' seeds that i collected from stuff I purchased from a grower over a couple year period. The mother's a hermaphrodite diesel kush, from which you very rarely you get a single seed in a bud. Anyhow, both last and this year I got a single female that came up with a purple stem from 1st sprout, and not only does this color last throughout the lifespan of the plant. but every runner lacks bilateral symmetry. It 's leggy, has a raisiny / blue berry flavor / scent profile in comparison to a lemon diesel dominant expression. I don't believe that any of the mother's seeds are hermaphrodites themselves, and they are all female (no idea how).
This is where it starts!
Water has memory, nothing grows without it,bird sing long before sun up ,cannabis is still at but half pace,
I need this. Ive been growing for over 15 years now and its time to stop messing around with new seeds every few months. I need to make seeds from these regular seeds i got. I hope i can pull a male and a female . My buddy has 1 growing too so maybe he can get a male too. Gary payton cookies regular seeds.
Kwik seeds
Or the real seed company
I got my own lines that's I've worked from "gifted and bag" seeds...
I haven't ordered from em yet, but i will.....
Id stear away from cookies bro. 🙈🙉🙊
So getting 16-21g trimmed flower out of 6in square pots in a old fridgerator is not too shabby.... lol nice
Wet weight 😋
@@Aj_470 no... trimmed curred flower...
@@kennethwalton5465 vlog or it never happened...just saying, sounds good
@@Aj_470 old ass viparspectra led and a 6in inline/carbon ... old ass fridge... was my first time messing with leds... was sufficiently impressed that I bought a brand new top end viparspectra led... and so far... definitely can recommend... lol previous experience was 15 yrs ago in CA prop215 with a 600hps...
@@kennethwalton5465 you gotta link or any videos or pics up. I would not mind checking out the pudding...
Sooo about those fatso results…. Nobody gonna talk about how they literally saying that half of that cultivars biomass is purely trichomes? Including terpenes it’s over 47% trichomes. That’s some crazy claims there, I just can’t see it being true.
If it is true it’s like a literal hash plant.
You can get those numbers, with the plants they use to grow Moon rocks, totally bro.
I cant agree more, it should be closer to 30, anything higher on flower seems like hash rolled buds being sent in or bad results in general.
@@user-rh2gl8ot8q It is physically impossible for cannabis flowers to be over 40% THC, unless it is added after it is finished. Moon rocks are made not grown that way.
Nice
5:09 How is a human's blood type determined by environment?
Really hard to listen to bad audio.
tks
100 grams per square foot sounds unbelievable.
You do not need a cold room for anthocyanin. A true purple strain will turn purple even at 100 degrees.
somuch words for sun moon and earth
Godfather OG Tested at 35%THC 4.0 Terpenes
Great video. But I think what we know about THC is wrong, Some of the best smoke I have had, Was prob 15%. Other chemicals in them little heads work better magic than THC.
Same , 15% great white shark and 13% revolver both kick my ass more than a 25% thc. alot more flavour in lowers thc weeds.
What I’ve always thought when you know you have solid seeds all the phenos will be close to eachother? It sounds like that’s what your saying aswel?
Recently I heard a breeder say you’ll find a huge variation in his pack even both indica and sativa, when I heard this I was shocked so is that good like he says? He seeds are very pricey
Great talk guys
The answer to both your questions is it depends. If you are buying a pack of seeds from a breeder and you desire and reason for purchasing the pack is that you want to grow plants that are going to look as close to the picture as possible and especially when feminized, want all the seeds in the pack to look a=and with as little as possible variation between them then you will likely be looking to buy from an experienced breeder who has worked the line of tht plaant likely for many generationa over years. Although theres no exact number of generations to go from say an F1 cross to a generation where the seeds produced are going to have that stability and have the highest percentage of similar plants produced you have to make selections from a large number ofoffspring produced either by line breedig where you take a male and female frome ach generationa and cross them to make the nxt generation, each time selecting the 2 plants that best express the phenotipical expressions that you are looking to produce with each generation, as you get rid of unwanted specimens you narrow down the gene pool (which we have sadly done with cannabis in general by always breeding for high thc costing us countless genetic variations we cant ever access again no matter how much we try to go back into the code of a plant) but you do thise more and more until finally your left with seeds that only have the genetic information that you have narrowed down to and thereby and only grow that genotypical expression of the plant and there is little to not other phenotypes because theres no other genetic information left to create a variation. You can still have the enviroment cause some variation but if you are growing them all in one place, same light then they should all look the same or very close to it. So likely the person who did all that work is going to want to make a little more money off those seeds than the person who just crosses a bunch of strains from other breeders and sells the f1s. It is also important for the gene pool ,and this is kind of off topic but important to not continue making the same mistakes we did in the past not knowing better, in order to ensure that we aren't further narrowing the gene pool its important to keep some of the seeds or plants from where you started your process of narowing down the variation thereby preserving all the genetic information of those cultivars you started with because you can only narrow down, not expand back out.
Now to your second question, it also depends.. If you are buying say seeds from the f2 generation meaning you crossed 2 plants and then breed 1 of those offspring with one of its siblings , you are basically opening up the genetic code of the 2 plants you originally crossed so if the 2 parents that were originally used to make a certain hybrid where really awesome or rare but you cant buy either of those parents, then you have a chance of growing them by getting a bunch of the f2 seeds and hoping that one of the plants that comes out of growing them close to or fully expresses the genetic code of that original crosses parent plant. SO if someone crosses a sativa with an indica and you get those f2 seeds then yes, you will have a variety of sativas and indicias and crosses of both being produced by that same pack of seeds. Can someone charge alot for that ?
Well, it depends...
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I think I may know who that “breeder” is. Although it may just be someone else I’ve seen mention that too. If it’s the same person I wouldn’t trust a word they say tbh. They’re full of shit.
Pricey seeds and he doesn't know if his own strain is indica or sativa? That is a breeder that I don't want nothing apart of.
I got a pack of 9lb hammer From JinxProof and he says his pack has 3-4 phenos to hunt through. Bud structure, terps, and more vary quite a bit.
@@jackkushner8026 very well explained I appreciate it ✊🏼
CHEERZ
My dream is to work researching, growing, developing rare exotic phenotypes
No mention of soil?😏
I love the topic but the mic quality is pain in my ears
breed true like some of those big compainies so we get the traits no matter what
Good weed is any good phenotype
ASMR Learning
Aka coddle culture
💚I’m sorry but yr not my phenotype…😇🙃😇🙃😇
Why do they sound so much like corporate America oh maybe they are
live water \m/
okay ,, Genotype example 2.0 critical auto.. Phenotype , different expressions of that genotype
When it's plentiful and cheap and legal there is almost zero reason to care about THC in my opinion
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I recommend autoflower after growing since the 90s I had the same view point on feminized seeds till I grew some same with autoflower seedstockers white widow nice smoke frosty sticky and you wouldn't be able to tell a pheno reg a fem or an autoflower give it a go especially if you are lucky enough to have a veg spot 😀
Tough look buddy
Autoflowers just aren't for the true connoisseur though
Do you reckon you could help anyone achieve 1,000g/m2? How about 2,000g/m2?
Only 2 channels on here yt has even come close to the average 700g/m2.
What channels?
@@kevinisbell1867 grass inclass and zp homegrows
You have A downie strain ready before you take A necessary flight..
its a gamble and a hunt lol.
Check out my phenotype in my pour up a cup of this bud videos!!!! Thanks for sharing lots of good information in this episode...... Cheers