The Foundations of Star Wars
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- Опубліковано 15 лип 2024
- Despite its popularity, Star Wars is one of the most misunderstood franchises in existence. This video will act as the final thesis to end all misinterpretations. Different from my Kreia video that established the mechanisms of Star Wars from the ground up, this video will display the axioms that act as the foundation of the franchise that permeates everything and build off that until, by the end, there will be nothing left to discuss regarding Star Wars. This video has been four months in the making.
0:00 Introduction
1:42 Rules of Star Wars
2:22 The Mechanisms of the Force
4:11 Sapience
5:32 Force Sensitivity
7:58 Methods of Using the Force
11:19 Force Powers
13:20 Origins of the Jedi and Sith
14:30 Core dichotomy between the Jedi and Sith
15:54 Balance
18:55 Summary of the Axioms
19:46 Eternal Recurrence
20:42 Unconscious Grumbling by Star Wars fans
21:24 Preventive Measures by the Jedi
23:08 The Origin of Attachments and its Flaws
24:50 Preventive Measures by the Jedi
28:44 Anakin's Clash with the Jedi
32:11 The Ontology of Death
33:49 The Duality of Life and Death
36:46 Grey Jedi
41:40 Qui-Gon
43:14 Grey Sith/Dooku
44:30 Mace Windu
47:18 Apathetic Jedi
49:13 Summarized Positions of Force Sensitives
50:54 The Galactic Republic
52:52 The Symbiosis of the Jedi and the Republic
54:14 Sith Dictatorship
56:10 Capitalism
58:38 The Flaw of Capitalism
1:01:10 Metaphysical Rigidity
1:03:14 Dichotomy of Technology
1:04:26 The Ontology of Sapience
1:10:25 Jar Jar Binks
1:13:05 Metaphysical Self-Corrective Measure
1:13:29 The Methodology of Rationality
1:15:03 -The Corruption of Coexistence
1:18:16 Meta-Ethics
1:20:36 Lucas Reveals Everything
1:23:25 The Core of Star Wars
1:24:34 The Oppression of the Gifted
1:25:20 What is Love?
1:26:40 Love is Impossible in Star Wars
1:29:20 Can Star Wars be saved?
1:30:53 The Smoking Gun
1:32:23 Let go of Escapism
1:33:22 No Divine Axiomatic Order
1:34:50 Conclusion
Not fully convinced? Then hear the truth directly from Lucas himself!
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I have a question that has nagged at me for a long time, it's slightly NSFW but I promise I mean it genuinely. If a force sensitive were to be consumed by the emotion of lust, and in the pursuit of indulging that emotion of lust, would they be embracing the dark, the light, or would it be impossible to use it for that purpose? I could see either side, on the one hand it is the indulgence of a personal desire, for the self. On the other hand, it is the indulgence of an extremely deep part of life which directly promotes its expansion, which makes me think it could be light. What are your thoughts, and why?
@@sayasakisaka7609 consumption implies lack of self control or care for the results to sate the desire. This within the limits of the axioms of StarWars, result in the violation of the consent of other sapient beings and the application of the basic tenets of self over others and thus the dark side. They would become obsessed with this form of pleasure, and seek to control their access to it, thus, power for power sake, thus a fall to the dark side, if perhaps a kinky one.
Lust does not automatically imply the intent to create life, only to acquire pleasure. Even in creating life, this does not facilitate the role of the light side, and the dark side would win out as it is the emotion, not the action. Remember, saving lives by killing unarmed persons is against the Jedi teachings because it is a slippery slope to the dark side. This would be no different. The results of your choice, and the action you take matter far less than the emotions and rational.
Else Anakin and many others would not have fallen because their intent at first was good. Good intentions mean nothing. Actions mean nothing. Only the desire for power and control spawned from the dissonance of reality with desires.
There is a small mistake in the french description "Malgré sa popularité, Star Wars est l'une des franchises les plus imcomprises qui existe". The "im" was missing in the "imcomprises" word, so that change the whole sense of the sentences and what you were trying to say. And the french title should be "La fondation de Star Wars". I love this video. I did a short video in french to summarize it and where I encourage to see this one for a deeply explanation. You can see here ua-cam.com/video/diT7MxPXUSA/v-deo.html . I'll probably going to write the english subtitles. Keep it up and May the Force be with you !
Your hatred of Star Wars is something I cannot fully comprehend. There IS no life without the Force, and if you connect yourself with all of life, you can feel their energy. It may not give you power, but if the connection you feel grows, you can grasp the full understanding of why it is necessary to let go of attachments. Attachments force you to live for others. As you said in your Kreia video: "Never live for others. Live for yourself."
@@sayasakisaka7609 An interesting question, but I’d say where it indisputably becomes the dark side would the moment that satisfying lustful desires would result in harm to ones partner, or others. Lust is such a powerful emotion, to be ‘consumed’ by it could only lead to harm to others eventually.
"Perhaps you were expecting some surprise, for me to reveal a secret that had eluded you, something that would change your perspective of events, shatter you to your core. There is no great revelation, no great secret. There is only you." Kreia.
"To believe in an ideal, is to be willing to betray it. It is something no Sith or Jedi has ever truly learned." - Kreia
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@CamelMan302 "Plans are fragile things and life often dashes expectations to the ground." - Kreia
"Know thyself"
Pretty much all of her dialogues are top-tier writing
Childhood is when you want to use the force
Adulthood is when you realise we are lucky it doesnt exist
I am so stealing this quote
KREIA WAS RIGHHT!
@@sebas8225 all along
Old age is when you realize CHIM has all the benefit without the negative.
@JohnnyTheMan98
Goats
Where does this convo lead us?
This video popped up in my recommended and I was like oh wow a long Star Wars video cool. And then I heard your voice and I was like “holy shit this is the Kreia guy. This is gonna be good”
lol.
The kriea guy 😂
Yeah, this guy is many things. The Kreia guy, a philosopher, a Anime-Walfu and most importantly, a "."
"What is undeniable is that Star Wars is an eternal masterpiece. It is one of the most significant artistic accomplishments of the human race.
And I hate it."
_A weird flex, to be sure, but a welcome one_
it is what it is
He hates it because the SW franchise and universe is the ultimate extreme of George Lucas's philosophy at life. I mean, living in that place sucks, being a Jedi Sucks more, being a Sith...you know. Is a world in which curses certain sapient beings to deny life for themselves for the sake of others.
you hate it because its entertaining and you want it to continue because of that, while you are also sympathetic to wanting it to resolve so the galaxy has a definitive happy ending. its the same unresolvable struggle. unless ofc you just stop enjoying it and 'let go'. either let go of the idea that it has to resolve and enjoy it for what it is, or let go of the idea that you have to keep enjoying it.
"Force choke is only used to take life."
That's not what Padme thought in the bedroom.
LMAO XD
Anakin also penetrated her with his "lightsaber". Clearly a sith from birth.
Force Hair Pulling??
Huhaha! Fuuck yeah
Dont forget the Force Orgasm
"This video is but a mirror whose only purpose is to show you what your own eyes cannot yet see about Star Wars" (c)
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I repeat this to myself almost every day 😂
And then, what about Disney Star Wars?
@Rough Collies Rock Not only that, but because the morals shilled as good in Star Wars are actually horrendously evil.
Keria acolyte!
this is an incredible video essay, not just as an analysis of Star Wars, but as a philosophical achievement. Thank you for creating it.
This. This is absolutely amazing ♥︎
There's something very specific that I enjoyed how you presented. The Jedi are not wrong but they are still flawed. The way they choose apprentices and train younglings is by necessity. However in the prequel era they still allowed themselves to become tools of the dark side. It's brilliant and I freaking love it.
So the jedi-sith philosophy can be reduced to the french flag...
what? completely white?
@@ThePoshboy1 What ?
@Jonkeu Viuhc Yesseuh, Sacrebleu !
Unit-Spé the flag for surrender.
@@fireemblemaddict128 Yeah, thanks, I got that, but I was saying there’s no flag like that in the video, so my "what?"
jar jar REALLY is the key to all of this George Lucas was right all along
We called him a madman, but we were mad trying to deny it all this time.
Jar Jar Binks was a Sith Lord the whole time
oh yeah yeah
@Will DeMarco *[influence gained: kru]*
To be fair who was more stupid jar jar giving emergency powers or the lady who put him in that position in the first place XD
I made a comment on your Grey Jedi video, and I think it's relevant to bring it up here again for those here who still don't understand.
The only way to balance the force is if nobody used the force. That's what Kreia's ultimate goal was.
There is no balance so long as an individual exists who can use the force.
Yes, that is the correct answer.
I'm still a little confused about Kreia. Ok, so her idea of deafening the galaxy from the Force makes sense, but .'s video suggests that the Jedi way was correctz even thought Kreia is framed to be right to seek a different type of Jedi Code in both the game and his video about her.
@@andreiefectivuatafac1966the OP got destroyed on his pinned comment by a guy using revan as his user name on this video. He contradicts himself a lot. He only talks about the 6 movies and Lucas being the only source but then uses the EU whenever it's convenient.
This revan guy said Lucas was not the sole lore creator and is actually a poor, inconsistent writer who hardly gave two fucks about the lore. He loved when the EU made money but then decided to not consider them Canon. Idk jealousy because they wrote a better story or continuation than he could ever had?
The prequels weren't only his ideas either. The dude sold off the poverty so he shouldn't be considered the final authority on anything.
People tend to glorify him as some Tolkien but he's nowhere near a Tolkien. Most of the braindead stuff in SW movies are actually his ideas so I don't know why fans try to make him out a martyr while villanozing Kathleen Kennedy. It's his fault for making an inconsistent and at times shitty storylines in the first place.
Star Wars takes place in our universe since every start says "in a galaxy far far away". So the force and midichlorians aren't the beginning of life and the universe. It's just a phenomenon in their galaxy.
But because they never expanded beyond or met humans from our galaxy, they falsely believe the Force is a God like entity that is an universal constant.
Just like many religions believed their local gods were universal before.
And that's why ultimately, the greatest works of Star Wars will always be those of the designated "Legends" category, the books and comics and games by minds other than Lucas, and foolishly disregarded by Disney. They understood Star Wars as its creator did, yet refused to sit back and accept the doom and the at-odds-with-humanity message of Lucas's Star Wars, and evolved its universe into something greater, and saved it from its recurring existential doom. At any rate, a superlative video, sir.
But Lucas didn’t consider the EU (save for the 2008 Clone Wars Show) canon? He described the Extended lore as being “a parallel universe”. His exact quote was: “There are two worlds here. There's my world, which is the movies, and there's this other world that has been created, which I say is the parallel universe-the licensing world of the books, games and comic books. They don't intrude on my world...” -George Lucas, Star Log Magazine, 2005. That last statement is half true, as elements of the EU are used and alluded to in the movies and Clone Wars TV show (which he had direct supervision and control over) such as the naming of Coruscant, Aurebesh being used in some text, and Darth Revan almost making into one of the episodes of TCW. But even then, these are revealed to have been after thoughts and convenient solutions for certain parts of the writing process, or in the case of Aurebesh being introduced as canon, a retcon made to the rerelease of A New Hope, while also serving as a advertisement for said products in the EU. Some things that were established in the EU would later have to be retconned or complete ignored altogether because George would contradict it, such as the origin story of Boba Fett, Owen Lars’ relationship to Anakin and Obi Wan, the 2D animated 2003 Clone Wars TV show, and everything after Return Of the Jedi that was depicted in the books (Jacen Solo, the rise of the Empire once again, Luke starting a family). All of that is not what Lucas envisioned and had said repeatedly that that’s not how he views the ending to Star Wars. The ending to him was Darth Vader redeeming himself and peace being brought to the galaxy. My main point is that the EU was never seen as part of Lucas’ plan. The EU solely exists to make as much profit as possible from an already popular brand. They don’t serve “as an extension” of his story.
@@jayguero2123 I don't know how you got all of that from OP's comment. They never actually said anything against that. Not once in the original comment did they say that it was what Lucas envisioned.
Plus, isn't it a bit harsh to say that _no one_ working on the OldEU _ever_ wanted to tell an interesting story and just wanted to make money off of a profitable brand? It's rather disingenous to say that and dismissive of the greatest content and writers that ever came out of it.
@@jayguero2123 The Clone Wars was and still is canon.
@@jayguero2123 if it wasn't canon it wouldn't have to be decanonized. Lucas only counts his 6 films as his canon. Everything under Lucasfilm was described by lucas as our Canon. Thr canon that commplents his films. It was canon by the company and stopped being canon after the buyout.
@@magnenoalex2 You realize Lucas worked on the Clone Wars directly.
... so what your saying is.... The Mandalorians did nothing wrong
I'm the 69th like ayyyyyyy
@@jimberjamber8540 was expecting a deeply philosophical shitpost, was not disappointed
Man not gonna lie, I find the recent developments with Lucas saying Jango and Bobba weren't Mandos hilarious. Like I love the Mandalorian culture and all, but it's like he's saying "Look idk why you people made that weird shit of a culture out of thoses 2 characters but that is not what I had in mind, they don't make part of that shit they are out".
@@joaovitorreisdasilva9573 I didn't like that, nor did I like him saying that Sith spirtis aren't real.
@@crystalquasar6841 oh let me clarify, I don't like the ideia George is the only person who decides what is canon or not. But it's funny to see the disagreements of his ideias and what Star Wars has become over time.
No one is "beyond redemption" in the eyes of the force. You can always return to the light.
Ian: Let me explain how Palpatine is more evil than the devil because at least the devil fell
*Looks at Revan* Yeah pretty much.
lol Palpatine
@@gamingninja33 Revan only was "redeemed" if you play LS because his mind was wiped and new personality was created with false memories by the Jedi Council. Revan himself never chose to let go off the Dark Side.
@@Shadeius Not to mention the fact that in the continuation of his story in SWTOR, when it's revealed that he has regained all his memories and has been imprisoned for 300 years, his first action upon escaping is to attempt mass genocide.
To save the galaxy in his mixed persona, he attempted to justify mass genocide by claiming it was for the greater good, for peace.
Yeah, Revan never let go of the Dark, just as you said.
Thoughts on "The Prophecy of the One Who Would Bring Balance to the Force": George Lucas was a student of Joseph Campbell, who himself was affected by Carl Jung. So when it comes to balance in the Force, I always thought of Jung's idea of embracing the Shadow. So when I saw the Jedi being corrupt and ineffective in the prequels, evidenced by their going along with the use of clones, openly talking about their diminished abilities with the force, and being very ridged with personal attachment by not allowing a Jedi to have a marriage partner; I assumed they were no longer contributing to balance either. Thus the Sith could operate under their collective nose without them detecting it. So I looked at it as the Jedi order, such as it was, needed to be purged. Then the remaining Sith needed to be purged, so that finally a new more balanced Jedi order could rise through Luke, the offspring of the one who created the conditions for a balanced new beginning.
This is absolutely how I always saw it. The Jedi of the Prequels needed to die, then the Sith that took over for the New Jedi Order to build something better.
I also tend to see the judeo Christian angle of Luke being a sort of "second Adam." He faced death to redeem his father, who was someone who was fallen. The Emperor rightly represents the Devil in this sense-he offers the power of a god,to cheat death,only to cheat Anakin,the first Adam,of his birthright,the honor of being a Jedi by seizing upon his weakness,his fear of losing his bride,and Padme becomes Eve. I realize that the Force arcana is itself based on more Hindu ideas,but the relationships are patently biblical.
People tend to interpret prophecy based on the information that they have on hand. The prophecy of the "Chosen one" in Star Wars was open to broad interpretation, and thus, a broad range of understandings, both right and wrong. I like how Star Wars ties into these strains of religious thought into a fantasy we can all relate to on our own terms.
I agree, and in that sense, while I agree with a lot of the analysis in this video, I saw it as Anakin's role to break the infinite cycle - bringing a true form of balance by allowing the flawed jedi ánd sith to be superceded by a new order. Not one that actively uses the dark side, but one that does not fear and structurally avoid it. It would be an order that at least seeks to understand the dark side in order to be able to recognize and withstand it. Yes, that would end the narrative of star wars... but that sort of would be the point.
then again, to practically achieve this, events beyond episode 6 would be needed - by just building a new order, there is no guarantee that the jedi fall back to their old ways of fearing the dark side, nor that new sith would arise. A true end to the cycle would need a kreian solution. And that is what I would have loved to see explored in ep 7-9; a clash between those that want to maintain control of the force whilst accepting the infinite regress of war, versus those that see it as such an offer that they rather sever connection with the force altogether, with all due consequences.
Your understanding of Star Wars is truly wonderful to behold. This is the true way to review art like Star Wars. You make the attempt to understand the mind of the artist, Lucas, rather than crying that it isn’t a copy of the original trilogy. Thanks for the video.
This is why Kreia's plan was so revolutionary
+Rain Hoogensen Kriea was the best thing that ever happened to the SW universe, it’s a shame endless wars means more movies.
Kreia would just destroy Star Wars and the galaxy wouldn't exist. It is a very nihilistic plan. She wanted to destroy the midichlorians, but without them there wouldn't be any life, she wanted to take away the life of all next generations without asking anyone just to prove a point.
@@BooguyTheAdept Correction: She stated that she wanted to deafen everyone to the force, we don't know if this is through destroying midichlorians, but we do know that there are people that could survive the procedure (as seen with the exile). It is possible that this would kill a huge number of people though.
@@ThePoshboy1 but Kreia herself told that Exile is unique, "more rare than you know", maybe one in all of the galaxy. So that may be a hint that she is the only one, who had the very close experience to Kreia's could survive such a procedure. Maybe Revan could survive it too, but it will be less than a dozen people who wouldn't be killed. It is actually very similar with WoW and Algalon who tried to clear all the Azeroth and begin a cycle again because mortals bring chaos.
@@BooguyTheAdept I'm inclined to agree now that I think about it, the exile was an anomaly and Kreia claimed she would sacrifice the whole galaxy to preserve them.
*LET STAR WARS GO*
just as Lucas did
Filikas Nicadori I agree he should do the philosophy of Frozen.
Did Elsa really let it go like Lucas ?
For a shit ton of money, too!
@@phothewin6019 Lucas didn't technically pocket the money for personal use. He donated it towards charity.
Lucas has been brought back by the CEO of Lucasfilms to do future Star Wars writing.
Lucas hasn’t let go of Star Wars though, he may not own the property, but he is working very closely with Dave Filoni on stuff like The Mandalorian and Clone Wars. His mansion is called Skywalker Ranch lol.
I’m so glad to find someone who actually understands how the dark side is supposed to work. I see people completely get it wrong and say that it’s totally cool to use the dark side “just a little bit”, when its unstoppable corrupting nature is spelled out clearly in both the original and prequel trilogies.
But thats the thing isn't it?
Its alluring, its the power to do what you want, to take control of a world that doesnt seem to care much about you, to do what is "right", but it never ends, its never enough, there is always something else to do, you must use it further, you must become STRONGER, and it never ends.
you have convinced me that my interpretation of the force is probably more fanon than canon, but I think I'm okay with that. I still prefer mine to the intended one (quite a lot, actually) but I can appreciate that for what it is nonetheless
I've enjoyed your past Star Wars content so it was great to see a new documentary. And you touched on probably the most misunderstood aspect of Star Wars: the Balance of the Force. I have also had to correct many people in that balance does not mean equilibrium between Light and Dark but rather the defeat of the Sith since the Dark Side's focus on selfishness and the pursuit of power is like a corrupting cancer on the universe.
However, I do think there is a hole in your final thesis that the Jedi must reject ALL short term joy for long term servitude. When you were talking about love I was waiting for you to bring up Luke and Vader as, within the context of George's 6 films, Anakin's redemption through the love and compassion of his son is the single most important moment of the whole saga. At the beginning of RotJ we immediately see how much Luke has grown from the previous film, displaying more of that zen calm one would expect from a Jedi. Yoda acknowledges as much when he says Luke needs no more training.
But there is still one thing both he and Obi-Wan task Luke with: killing Darth Vader. They show no pity for the fact that Vader is Luke's father, insisting that he is irredeemable and not understanding Luke's love. Luke ignores their advice and still tries to get through to Anakin. Yes Vader is able to twist Luke's protective feelings for Leia and incite him to lash out in rage. But after that Luke exemplifies what makes him the greatest Jedi in the Saga. Following the old Jedi ways of the Masters he is able to calm his anger and throw away his weapon, exemplifying the zen control of one's self and refusal to attack you discussed. But he is also showing compassion to his father and as he's being tortured is finally able to get through to Anakin. Luke's rejection of the old Jedi ways, insisting on saving Anakin out of selfless love, is what ends up saving the galaxy.
Luke's journey shows that you don't have to reject ALL pleasure and short term joy. It just can't be the focus on your life, cause you to become possessive. Pleasure in moderation with a long term focus on happiness that isn't self-centered is the true Jedi Way. Anakin's love of Padme became a problem because he wanted to possess her, to be with her forever because he didn't feel complete without her. But Luke's love for Anakin wasn't like that. He simply wanted his father to better himself and cast aside his years of hatred. It's possible to love others in a healthy way in which you are prepared to let go of them when the time comes.
With all that said the cycle you described does still occur because inevitably, even if it takes 1000 years, a Force wielder will fall from the righteous path and take the easy route to solve their anxiety. And of course storytelling always requires conflict so inevitably evil will rise again in the next Star Wars story. I think where the Jedi Order struggled is to teach that blend of zen selflessness alongside the openness to love without greed. It's hard to find people with the self-control of a Luke Skywalker even if you train them from birth. They couldn't figure out how to teach that to a large group without someone falling prey to selfishness, so they abandoned it and went the more conservative route of rejecting pleasure to keep the galaxy safe. And it worked pretty well for 1000 generations. Seeing Luke establish a new Order founded on his principles is what I was hoping to see in the Sequel Trilogy but alas...
Great video analysis overall, but I believe you're missing the answer to the Jedi Way Luke found in RotJ. A balance that is not Grey Jedi but rather a controlled moderation to allow the Jedi to connect more with reality and keep hold of their humanity.
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That's why Luke was the best Jedi, and why he was ruined in TLJ. His selfish desire to save his father is ultimately what redeems Vader, not some spiritual immolation or denial of attachments. Of course, this only works for Luke and Vader because of their familial bond.
Yes! Thank you! The nihilism that the video veers into unfortunately ignores the conclusion of RotJ, arguably the most important part of the saga in terms of the point it makes about the nature of the force and the light side. Luke does not achieve victory through detachment, but by reaching out and reconnecting what once was broken! The folly of the old Jedi was their didactic adherence to utter detachment, which blinded them to the corruption building within the Republic, their own ranks, and most importantly Anakin. RotJ is not meant to be just another victory of absolute selflessness to the point of masochism over sadism in an endless cycle, it is THE END of Star Wars as Lucas saw it, and such brings resolution to the conflict, showing light can win, and not just by self sacrifice and isolation, but by compassion and the cooperation of equals as comrades. Notice Luke has friends at the end, and does not abandon them as the Jedi would teach (and in fact, the Jedi embrace friendship too even in the prequels, to an extent).
Still a very interesting analysis, but it faltered a bit at the end by not seeing this, unfortunately. I agree very much with your comment and that's why I was compelled to reply, so I could hopefully keep record of it as an addendum to this video if I want to show it to others! Thanks you for making it!
@@Boohahascaredyou Glad you enjoyed it. Spent longer than I probably should have typing it up.
@@FriendlyDarkwraith I wouldn't define Luke wanting to save Vader as selfish. For the sake of his own self-preservation he should have struck Vader down and not thrown away his lightsaber. And by not doing so he's tortured nearly to death. It is motivated by personal feelings for his father that everyone saw as irredeemable, but he saw that Anakin was still behind the mask somewhere and could overthrow the Emperor.
No, no. You're still holding on! Let go!
SomeHow palpatine returned
44:25 the twi'lek woman from the sith academy in KOtOR is another example of this. Joining the sith to gain more power to enact positive change, but quickly becoming fully focused on just gaining more power due to the nature of the dark side.
Good eye; that is absolutely correct. She even mentions that she had completely forgot about her original goal and merely wanted more power for its own sake until she had obtained absolute power to do anything. But by that point, she would have completely forgotten her goal. Joining the Dark Side might be done with good intentions but it's always lost on the way.
@@The.UA-camr.with.no.Name. Love your vids as always
How does this have so little views? This is hands down the most insightful and thought-provoking Star Wars analysis bar none (if The Philosophy of Kreia is a contender, at least that has the viewcount it deserves). Boss is still responding to comments a year later taking the discussion further. I don't really understand how shitting on the new trilogy still gets big views but this doesn't. I'm also happy to see it's made people who might disagree think about it.
Thanks, I hate it. You killed it but it had to be done.
When you see a being that continues existing even after receiving lethal damage Do. Not. Babble. About. The Morals. Go for a mercy kill, a "coup de grace", if you will.
@@user-om3wn4yb8q Okay buy, why
I respectfully disagree. I don't think he killed it. I have a better appreciation for star wars now than I did before watching the video and now can enjoy it on a deeper level.
@Maintenance Renegade I just wrote a comment very similar to this. I'm glad more people now see this as being true. Yoda was never wise, nor is Lucas some good guy who conveys a good message. He sits comfortable in material excess while preaching the virtues of self-sacrifice and denial of pleasure. Highly hypocritical from the man who has 4+ billion US dollars.
@@DraculaCronqvist This may be foreign to you, but sometimes wealth is actually earned. Lucas went through hardship and risk filming the original movies and created something wonderful. If such risks never paid off nothing would be advanced.
Star wars has so many awesome things, magical powers, lightsabers, space battles it makes you think that this world has infinite possibilities yet in the end it so restrictive to the point of choking you.
The rules introduced in the Prequels are what killed the entire franchise. The OT kept it ambigous, making it open for infinite possibilities, like you said, but with the Prequels, the ruleset became so constrictive, it is now impossible to enjoy any stories set in Star Wars, not only because it allows for no freedom in storytelling but because of the disgusting morality it preaches.
@@DraculaCronqvist yea, that would be my thoughts as well. In the original trilogy, the force exists, but there is no enforced balance that occurs.
@@philipsangalang5077 Precisely. It is the Prequels that destroy and restrict that wonderful universe that was created, and this is the chief reasons why the Prequels are so horrid. They fail also as movies, but if that was their only failing, then that could be forgiven. The problem is that, as a whole, they doom and destroy the work they are a part of and that is why I hate them.
@@DraculaCronqvist The problem here is that the only ones stating these rules are The Jedi and in part The Sith, both of which could easily simply be COMPLETELY wrong about The Force and thus through them the restrictions and thus the conclusions this video draws. They are the closest we have to an authority on The Force but that's doesn't mean they aren't still wrong about it. We didn't know about how the laws of physics worked but that didn't mean that the laws of physics weren't there and that even the authoriities on it weren't wrong about it for centuries before we finally managed to get something remotely workable in the last few decades.
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The Jedi for instance forbade attachment and with it most if not all emotion due to a fear (and it's definitely a fear, make no mistake about it) of it leading to falling to the Dark Side. This video claims that the Jedi are about preserving and nurturing life, however they only do so to one aspect, protecting living beings from harm on at physical level. They are as harmful to life in their own way as The Sith because they take Force Sensitives away from their families and forbid attachments and emotions, which are as much a part of life as anything else.
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Rather than teach their students to embrace attachments and to handle their emotions to avoid irrational extremes, they teach to remove all attachments and to ignore their emotions until they go away. Any psychiatrist will tell you that you can't get rid of your emotions by ignoring them. By doing so, they ensure that people like Anakin are ill equipped to handle stressful moments in their lives, resulting in them snapping and diving straight down to the Dark Side, which as Count Dooku proves isn't beyond even the so called "Zen" Jedi Masters. Anxiety and irrationality are born not from negative emotions but the inability to recognize and control said emotions. Allow them to be there but not to overwhelm someone.
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This is the fault of Lucas steadfastly refusing to permit any level of moral ambiguity to be allowed to enter into Star Wars after decades and dozens and dozens of writers. If there's anything that getting Lucas' grubby hands off Star Wars can now accomplish it's that these restrictive things can now be lifted... if Disney itself is smart enough to allow it. Fat chance considering they had the perfect setup with The Last Jedi to do exactly that and backtracked on it at the last second.
@@TheDecentDescent Are you fucking mental, following me to every single comment I made?
One of the major things that Lucas gets wrong is the nature of power. Power does not corrupt like many claim. It only reveals what you always wanted to do with that power. Power is amoral and is merely a tool to fulfill one’s goals. One can indeed act selfishly without causing pain or undue harm with their power. It’s ultimately how you wish to use your power and what your goal is.
This is extremely true and a fact that most people generally do not grasp. They want it to be true that power corrupts and that absolute power corrupts absolutely, because they are not willing to entertain the notion that they themselves are flawed beings who would misuse their power. It is far easier to assume that everybody would be a dick because thats the nature of things, rather than accepting that no, most people are dicks and you and I are probably, too, but not everybody without fail.
thats why the jedi order takes children from a young age, to make those desires not happen in the first place. anakins corruption happens directly because he needed to fulfill his goal of saving padme
Power will corrupt 99% of those who obtain it.
@@hogg4229Power almost always reveals.
And 99% of percentages are made up. 😅
@@hogg4229 No it won't.
This is one of the best videos on UA-cam I have ever seen. The philosophy is so complete, explanation so clear, well researched, editing is on point. Bravo and thank you.
Best of luck with the reception of the video, hope we all helped in a meaningful way during the streams.
It was attachment that motivated Vader to kill the emperor. He had witnessed him commit atrocity after atrocity, and still did not rise up against him. Was the end of EP6 the triumph of familial bonds against the corruption of the dark side, or was it simply the inevitable self-consumption of a sith institution? The latter is much less inspiring.
@WaddleSenpai Love and Vader realized that the emperor was not all omniscient like he said he was.
Just seems to me that Vader kept going with Palpatine because of a sort of "gone too far to turn back now" and finally had the strength to let go of the Sith when he realizes that his own flesh and blood still hasn't given up on him even after he did himself.
@brandovlogs it wasn’t love that ruined the day in the prequels, it was power, obsession and control.
"Love doesn't lead to the dark side. Passion can lead to rage and fear, and can be controlled... but passion is not the same thing as love. Controlling your passions while being in love... that's what they should teach you to beware. But love itself will save you... not condemn you."
―Jolee Bindo
Or, it was the axioms of universal compassion and having to kill the sith
Gotta hand it to UA-cam for once, letting creators split the progress bar into chunks is really useful.
I love it.
"Thematically, the Jedi represent the symbiosis and binding of all of life and the balance between life and nature, and the Sith represent an unbinding of life by desiring supremacy over all of life through the acquisition of power. By rebelling against life, the Sith create an oppressive environment for other living beings, and it is only through their removal that life can flourish again."
That was beautiful, and the best analysis of Star Wars and its philosophy that I've ever encountered.
Good conclusion too, one that somewhat alleviates my anxieties. We're free rational beings after all
Magnum Opus of Star Wars analysis
So after watching this video I was thinking back to Mortis arc in The Clone Wars, and now after some reflection I think I finally understand it's meaning. The misinterpritation would be to assume that this family represent the duality of the Force. They, however it may seem otherwice, remain forcewielders. And through this struggle of forcewielders do we get to see the duality of LIFE itself. Mortis is a mircocosm for all of Star Wars. Achieving inner balance between selfish and selfless aspects of life is the ultimate path to happines. But this is not the path of those who is sensible with the Force. And we see that while Anakin seemingly did achieve balance between Children by dominating them, eventually he falls to the Dark Side, therefore confirming that such balance cannot be achieved in Star Wars universe. But what about the Father? He stands inbetween his children unable to solve the conflict, reluctant and unwilling to take any action and just waiting for some sort of a Chosen One to come and make things right. The Father represents APATHY. And APATHY IS DEATH. Worse than either of choices. And surely enough, death indeed finds him. This arc shows further George Lucas' reflection upon his ideas and I finally come to appreciate it, but it is EXTREMELY hard to interpret right without proper context and thankfully this video gave me exactly that.
Arkersus yes and no; notice in the first episode of the Mortis arc, the Son’s very presence is capable of killing life around him while the Daughter’s presence preserves the life around him. The presence of the Mortis Gods doesn’t necessarily deviate from what George Lucas intended regarded how “balance in the Force” is achieved - the preservation of life. But the Mortis Gods did, yes, misinterpret the Chosen One prophecy.
@@EricGraham94 I'm not quite sure how does that contradict with what I said. The Mortis arc is notoriously known for allegedly misinterpreting the Force and Star Wars as a whole, implying that there is Dark and Light side of the Force as if two separate essences, and that achieving balance in-between them is the ultimate goal to which everyone should aspire to. And that misconception primarily comes from assuming that Mortis gods are manifestations of the Force itself. What I meant was that from a certain perspective the whole arc actually proves the point, that such balance cannot be achieved, that selfish "Son" and selfless "Daughter" will constantly be in conflict, and, what's more important, that the Father is an argument not *for* this idea of superiority of "grey", "balanced" force wielder, but *against* it. At the end of the arc absolutely nothing was gained from such balance. Real balance between *selflessness and selfishness* (I'm not referring to the balance of the Force) is exactly what it is - constant struggle, contact battle, constant war in hearts of everybody. That is what Star Wars about, as I understand it. It's just that the Force brings this conflict outwards.
@@EricGraham94 It's probably a confusion between meaning of word "life" from physical and philosophical point of view. In my original post I only refer to life from philosophical one.
I certainly hope that this isn’t the Magnum Opus.
"There will be nothing left to discuss regarding Star Wars"
Yeah but what about Obi-Wan with a Green Lantern Ring vs. Rey with the Power Stone? What about Thanos vs. Darth Vader? Hell, Death Battle is doing Obi-Wan vs. Kakashi right now.
Prime Yoda vs. ROS Rey, Palpatine vs. Megatron, Prime Dumbledore vs. Prime Yoda; the list goes on and on. There's plenty left to discuss regarding Star Wars.
Why can't people just use the force to crush someone's heart, eyeballs, or testicles? That'd be a good video topic.
What about Darth Nihilus vs. Yhwach?
I think it would be entertaining, but completely hollow. What difference does make on who wins?
@@justifiably_stupid4998 Powerscaling fictional characters stems from one of the fundamental aspects of storytelling criticism and can affect the way we view art itself. Misinterpretation is often the bane of analysts keen on peeling away the layers of dense, multifaceted art; accountability becomes an afterthought. The very nature of powerscaling, however, lays the foundation for a _proper_ analytical framework that can be applied in all aspects of art criticism.
Also, I want to see Prime Yoda fight Prime Dumbledore goddammit. How fucking cool would that be??
About the last one I actually thought about this a lot, but if you read the Darth bane trilogy you learn that the most basic thing that force users learn is to make a shield over their body, it was called something specific that I forgot
Star Wars and Warhammer 40,000 galaxies being set in the same universe .
After watching this years ago, I’ve finally found it again. This is the single-most greatest piece of work explaining the ideology and philosophy of Star Wars. Thank you.
I love how the epic good vs evil battles play out between just a couple of people with only the audience as witness, while the battles happening simultaneously that are relevant to the quadrillions of people that make up the actual citizens of the rest of the galaxy involve no jedi. Padme's face when the door opens to reveal Darth Maul is like "now wtf is this?" then Qui-gon says "we'll handle this" and she goes the other way looking slightly annoyed and probably thinking "ok some random weird jedi thing, whatever". To the average person the Jedi are probably seen as governmental bloat their taxes pay for that only exist because tradition.
I also remember Star Wars.
Dere he is
plz upload man i miss your videos. they are some of the best on the youtube. lov u no homo :(
you remember things?
Pepperidge Farm remembers!
"This is my final video"
My heart broken
This may be the last video blank ever makes, but I doubt this will be the last we ever hear of him/her.
Eh doesn't he specifically say it's the last star wars video he is making?
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Don't be sad that it's ending. Be glad that it happened.
Also, not everything needs to go on forever. Look what happened to Star Wars.
Damn I rewatched the whole thing looking for when he/she said it only to find it on the description, lol
Though it's a shame there will be no more videos on SW this channel covers whole lotta topics so it's ok, frankly I've never paid so much thought on SW before I watched the Kreia video so they indeed helped me appreciate the universe George Lucas created. I'm so glad I found this channel, it has become one of my favorites and surely I'm gonna be looking forward for his/her next projects
I've been making theories and tried to explain for years with only the movies what Star Wars is about, how the Force works and so on, and finally the day that i have my theories confirmed has arrived! Thank you for making this beautiful video, we need MORE of these kind! Your point of view is super professional, it looks as if it came from out of a University class (and i love it!).
But i can't get out of my head that you channel has no name! wtf!
I find myself coming back to this video every few weeks, I really appreciate the effort put into this video, and all your videos.
They really help when I'm feeling down.
"dark powers such as force choke are harmful" ok no need to kink shame
Or when Anakin's force choke on Poggle saved the lives of dozens of clones and 2 jedi padawans.
Get your "kink shame" and shove it back up your Twitter
@@Bodwaizer Ooh... I want to talk about *that* kink, right there.
Everyone take a moment please, and pause at 1:37:28, to read his personal message in the subtitles regarding Star Wars.
, your videos have been enlightening, and it has been an absolute pleasure to watch and listen.
Thank you
I applaud your bravery in praising George Lucas, I think he's been overly criticized by the internet at large because of "those reviews". While I agree there's a lot more going on in the prequels, I would still argue that most of those ideas were poorly expressed, in no small part due to George Lucas's less than exemplary skills in directing and writing. He's great at coming up with these "big picture" ideas and themes, but when he has too much responsibility in the implementation of those ideas and themes, for a medium meant for an audience, it just falls short.
You've done a great job with these Star Wars analyses. I thoroughly enjoy watching them and I think they do an amazing job of showing just how much value is already in the Star Wars universe.
There have been three points of rejection about the video, and I would like to pin my response in case anyone wishes further clarification.
The first is the mention that Obi-Wan never romantically fell in love. However, in the CG Clone Wars TV show, Obi-Wan was romantically involved with Satine. In the making of this video, I felt uncomfortable leaving this out but resolved to remain faithful to explaining Lucas’ vision in the original and prequel movies. This video relied on the G-canon for all relevant information; I ignored any subsequent ideas from the Expanded Universe Legends and new Disney canon.
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The video references the Sequel trilogy, but only to reinforce ideas that were already present in the original and prequel movies, such as Finn being ‘discovered’ as a Force Sensitive similar to Leia, Luke being an Apathetic Jedi identical to Yoda and Ben and Rey’s relationship never blooming similar to Anakin and Padme. The Clone Wars, regardless of one’s personal preferences on its existence, was not considered in the making of this video. Obi-Wan showed no signs of being in love in the prequel movies; therefore, he had no romantic interest. Many have retorted that this is invalid: Lucas worked on the CG Clone Wars; they are as valid as the six movies. However, the video intends to present the core of Star Wars according to the original and prequel movies without any interference of additional information; only the main film can be relied on to find the answer. This standard was the premise upon which I stated my thesis at the opening of the video.
The second point is regarding Windu. People seem to misunderstand the Fourth and Fifth Directive and how Windu was supposedly in the right somehow. The Fourth Directive states that the Jedi can only kill in self-defense and never kill unarmed prisoners. The Fifth directive says that the Jedi should kill the Sith. Both instructions seem like an apparent contradiction, but it isn't; the Fourth directive implicitly supersedes the Fifth. The Jedi exist to maintain and uphold symbiosis and cannot violate it. In normal circumstances, there is no problem: when a Sith and a Jedi meet, the Sith will always attack first, and the Jedi always act in self-defense. However, as the Revenge of the Sith movies emphasizes twice, once a Sith has given up and becomes a prisoner, the Jedi cannot kill them. Anakin held Dooku's life in his hands and killed him. This killing violated the symbiosis and was wrong. Had Anakin not killed him, Palpatine's plan would have entirely crumbled as Dooku would have revealed the entire conspiracy.
Similarly, Windu disarmed Palpatine and held his life in his hands. People have argued that Palpatine wasn't '''''''TRULY''''''' disarmed and therefore it was valid for Windu to kill him. However, this is merely a sleight of hand. Windu knows that he was about to violate the symbiosis and attack Palpatine and that it went against the Jedi code. The consequence is that it made Anakin act irrationally and cut his arm off, which lead to Order 66. Regardless of your perspective, the movie emphasizes that Windu attacking Palpatine after he kicked his lightsaber away was WRONG because it violated the symbiosis.
The insanity of Palpatine is that he is the only Sith to realize that the Fourth and Fifth directive exists against each other and used it to his advantage. This oversight is not a mistake of the video but an in-universe twisting of the rules for one's benefits. And it is one that Lucas is aware of by making Palpatine use it in Return of the Jedi when tempting Luke to 'strike him down with all of his hatred' because he is unarmed. When Luke attacked Palpatine, it was wrong, and Palpatine cackled because he knew that Luke embraced his hatred.
The final criticism is regarding the climax of the Return of the Jedi movie: Luke’s love for his father ultimately saved him. The franchise may be entirely against the notion of attachments, specifically in the prequel movies, but it affirmed that it is good. Bluntly, this is a last-ditch effort by people to argue that the Jedi are not ‘Good’ by claiming that the thematic conclusion is that attachments are positive rather than negative. However, this does not hold water and ignores the overall thematic position of the original movies. As stated in the video, the central theme of Star Wars is ‘Let Go’; it is a renunciation of reality in all matters by accepting faith and embracing death. In the first movie, there are three direct mentions: the first is when Obi-Wan trains Luke in the force, telling him to let go of his conscious self. The second is when Han and the gang arrive on Alderan and pursue a tie-fighter. Obi-Wan advises that it’s too far and that they ought to let it go; Han disagrees, and they get caught by the Death Star. The third is when Luke let’s go of his targeting computer to destroy the Death Star. Han also let’s go of his greed and money, which helps destroy evil.
Empire Strikes Back emphasizes patience, but the central theme is still there. When Vader is about to capture Han and Leia, Luke resolves to save them. Yoda and Obi-Wan both tell him to let go of his friends, demanding that he sacrifices them for the greater good. Luke goes to save them, and it results in the loss of his hand. He has a second choice: he can accept evil or die. Luke finally embraces the Jedi path by letting go of his life, and it ultimately saves him.
In Return of the Jedi, Luke encounters Vader and tells him to let go of his hatred. But he says that it is too late. Upon meeting Palpatine, Luke affirms the embrace of death by telling the Emperor that: 'he will soon be dead along with him.' But once Palpatine gloats that he has foreseen everything, he shows that Luke’s friends are dying, and with prodding, Luke embraces his hatred and attacks him. Palpatine gloats further because by striking first, Luke already lost.
After some back and forth between using his aggressive feelings and refusing to fight, Vader baits Luke by reminding him of his attachment to his sister, which drives him over the edge, and he almost falls to the Dark Side. However, Luke notices that his father’s hand is robotic, just like his, and that he is slowly becoming like him. This self-realization prompts Luke to reaffirm his stance that he is a Jedi, like his father before him and throws his lightsaber away; by letting go of his hatred and life, Luke embraces death. We come to the climax where people’s disagreement occurs. Palpatine tortures Luke, and Vader saves his son. People project that acts as an attachment between father and son, but rather, it is not an act of love but pity. Vader looks down on his son and not only sees his son but himself. Through compassion and seeing himself in his son, just as Luke saw himself in his father, Vader reaffirms his position as a Jedi by letting go of his self-hatred and embraces death by sacrificing his life to kill the Emperor. As Luke told Vader, he had to let go of his hatred, and both did so by the end of the movie. The act was not about love but the affirmation of letting go of one’s life through compassion and acting selflessly. This act of altruism is the central theme that permeates all three main movies, and the prequel movies emphasize it further.
I can sympathize with people that wish to see the climax in Return of the Jedi as an act of love and affirmation of attachments. However, everywhere else in the original movie and prequels, it is the stance taken: attachments create joy, and its loss is unbearable. Therefore, it must not occur because it makes an individual cling too strongly to life rather than unconditional love for all of life. Clinging to the ending of Return of the Jedi is a last-ditch effort to affirm that Star Wars is not evil and against attachments. The climax of the movie is not an affirmation of attachments but self-sacrifice, selflessness and compassion. Epistemologically, the climax of any piece of art is the final integration and statement of its values. So, subconsciously, if Return of the Jedi is in favor of attachments and love, then it supersedes the other mentions that display love as self-destructive and leading to evil. This is why I emphasized *romantic love* being impossible in the video, not merely love in a nebulous term. You might nonetheless still cling to the view that love is valid in Star Wars, but romantic love is impossible for Force Sensitives. And even if you view Vader saving his son as an act of love rather than pity, his embracing of love resulted in death.
Regardless of one's position, the truth remains the same: Star Wars is about letting go; it is a renunciation of reality in all matters. The franchises emphasize that if you are born with high intelligence and ability, you must live for others and never live for yourself or else it brings widespread oppression. Some are confused as to my final words on Star Wars, as though this entire video isn't self-evident about what Star Wars represents: I hate it because Lucas is telling me I must never eat chocolate and that I can never be in love. *Hate* is a strong word, and I do not use it lightly because I view Star Wars as outright evil.
The best way to convince people that Star Wars is evil is to say: ''In Phantom Menace, Anakin was the ideal of what a person should be; earnest, good-natured, always willing to help others, but he had one major flaw: he loved his mom.'' Anakin’s entire fall was because he refused to accept death and the fact that he could not control everything. By the end of Return of the Jedi, Anakin finally accepts death and let’s go.
That is the meaning of Star Wars.
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The Clone Wars TV show was canon to Lucas, Disney made most of the books not non-canon because modern Legends is a mix of Lucas canon books and expanded universe. Lucas intended on many books and the show to be canon and to explain more of the story, Disney didn't make the Clone Wars show.
There is something about the act of love of anakin towards his son. Then he was dying and luke said that he can save him anakin told him “you already have” and doesn’t try to remain alive, not using the force to keep himself together, not attempt to repair his cybernetic. He let go of his life. And luke... let go his father, not a attempt to avert his death, like anakin should have done with padme, let her go. So even if there is the argument that anakin saving luke was a act of love, in the end anakin remain true to the Jedi code for letting go of his life and luke for let go his father.
Also if it was a act of love also could count that the moment darth Vader picked up palpatine and throw him into the tractor it was the moment he let go of his power, his title as a Sith Lord and his life. So even if it was a act of love it was something that the force approves. He let go of everything and killed a Sith Lord that was about to kill a defenseless jedi. I guess loophole abuse is also a thing in the Star Wars universe.
ONLY A SITH DEALS IN ABSOLUTES
I mean... even the new Disney canon is still on theme at a meta level
we couldn't let go of star wars and we got a disaster
Kreia: ... I hate the force
Me: ... You know what? Me too
Kreia was absolutely right in her entire plan. The problem is that Star Wars, not just in-universe but also out-of-universe, could not only not allow her plan to succeed, but needed her to fail on a meta-level, because if people, fans, would see that she was right, they would grow disillusioned with Star Wars and stop buying the merch. Hence, Kreia has always been deliberately misunderstood and falsely labeled as a Sith nutjob who was just evil, case closed. Kreia and his writer needed to be discredited for Star Wars to continue existing, both in-universe and out-of-universe.
@@DraculaCronqvist Yes indeed and I don't hold anything against it. To be honest though, despite knowing the curse the force can be for the people of the Galaxy far far away, I still love Star Wars and most of it's characters. Kreia's teachings have though helped me achieve a more sober appreciation for the franchise.
@@DraculaCronqvist The problem is that Kreia's plan (if that truly was what she was trying to do and not just epically B.S.ing again like she spends the whole game doing) is that it was doomed to fail from the start. Either Kreia was wrong and she was about to commit genocide on a galactic scale for no real reason, or Kreia was right and there was no way in hell The Force would have let her plan get off the ground in the first place. The premise defeats itself.
DraculaCronqvist You are unironically making real life conspiracy theories based on a character from a fictional story...
You have shown me a level of depravity I didn’t even think was possible. Thank you. Fuck you, but thank you.
Martin P Oh yeah. Let’s just ignore the fact that you could remove the “will” of the force from most stories and everything could just be chalked up to random circumstances because the writers never actually centred their narratives around characters being helpless pawns to an indifferent “force” of nature. The force has never been the driving “force” of the narratives, the characters alone have been. The notion of the force being in control is as arbitrary as “fate” or “destiny”, only becoming plot-relevant in very rare and specific circumstances to add depth and nuance to a story that is complete without it.
The sheer amount of things you would have to ignore in Star Wars to make the force’s vague, barely expanded upon “desires” the main take-away that looms over literally _everything_ else, on top of coming to this conclusion based on a single character from the EU, leads me to suspect that you didn’t actually like the series that much to begin with, or liked it for some very strange or obscure reasons.
Never understood the hate of prequels - to me they are a giant leap forward in everything. They made SW into an interesting and deep universe instead of a simple old story.
People hate the prequels because they expanded what was true of Star Wars and lessened what drew them in Star Wars; they could not understand it and blinded by nostalgia, they declared it bad.
They we're objectively bad movies, but when you're a nerd like me who loves Star Wars I don't give a fuck. It's all in the eye of the beholder. Some people don't understand the beauty behind the mess and that's okay.
honestly i think people just have recency bias and are forgetting the things critiqued in the movies that people picked apart so much when they were coming out.
ִ Is this not the same thing the last Jedi did? The same last Jedi that got so much hate? Can you not see the irony of this all? I don’t hate the prequels, I’d say Revenge of the Sith is up there for my favorite movies, it just seems odd that so many of you hate TLJ for taking risks, being flawed, and expanding on the lore when this is pretty similar to what the Prequels attempted to do.
@@jimberjamber8540 same. Except 3. I think 3 was really good. As good as Return of the Jedi
I've watched this video and your Kreia video (and your Ratatouille video) probably about 20 times each, if not more. Thank you for creating these works of art. 💖
Thank you for your hard work and dedication. This made me look at Star Wars in a new perspective.
The Madman did it, he solved Star Wars.
@Maintenance Renegade Don't be too hard on yourself, mankind has often had the tendency to fall for tragedies. I am certainly one of them aswell.
The answer was always there. Some people just take longer than others to see it.
@@Zarggg No he didn't.
SPOILERS FOR TALES OF THE JEDI, POST - ROTJ EU, and KOTOR:
In regards to Star Wars being a hopeless world where you must choose one extreme on the other. I think that thats actually a large part of the beauty of the EU. There are countless examples of characters falling to the Dark Side and yet managing to come back. Ulic Qel Droma, Bastilla, The Sith Twilek In Kotor. The EU tends to twist things a bit, where as the standard precedent is that when one falls to the dark side, they are doomed to be a slave to it, or in rare cases manage to come back to the light by embracing the Jedi Code.
Lets look at Bastilla for example. She falls to the dark side, but is brought back by Revan. However, she does not uphold all of the Jedi values. She and Revan become lovers, something against the code for obvious reasons. Yet she is able to maintain herself as a Jedi. She does not blindly seek power in an effort to save Revan from death or stop her own. She is able to accept that beings die, and not everything can be controlled. This is rather contrary to the philosophy of Star Wars. Traditionally, she would be punished for choosing to love, as Anakin is. Anakin is destined to fall due to his love for Padme. The Sith Twilek is destined to fall because of her desire to exert power over things she cant control, and she loses herself in the pursuit of that power. Yet Bastilla is able to love and be human, with all the flaws that come with that, without succumbing to the dark side. She recognizes that she cant control everything and is able to let go of the desire for control without having to let go of her humanity, which is what most Jedi do.
I think Bastilla is a great example of hope in the Star Wars universe because she is able to both able to dedicate herself to the teachings of the Jedi and be human. She does this, somewhat paradoxically, by breaking the parts of the Jedi code that deny her humanity. You could argue that ultimately she is forced into being a Jedi, as the alternative is either being a Sith or denying both and eventually falling to the Dark Side anyways, as thats the natural progression of retaining all of your humanity and being force sensitive in the Star Wars Universe. However I think thats actually a hopeful thing too. It shows that there is much value in the Jedi code, even if it ultimately has flaws. To refuse all of your humanity is to deny yourself the permission to live, but Bastilla chooses to deny the negatives of being human (inherit hunger for power, selfishness, rationality) while still keeping the things that bring joy (compassion, pleasures). The Jedi code naturally denies the negative impulses of being human, its flaw is that it denies the positives as well. In the Star Wars universe this is a necessary evil, but in the EU it is often shown that this evil isnt so necessary after all. You can live your life enjoying love and compassion, while still letting go of the negative impulses and desires that are natural to humans. I think this actually leads you to live a more fulfilling life than if you simply lived life regularly, as a non force sensitive, because your able to enjoy your life while also finding purpose in others and coming to let go of your negative impulses. It isnt complete denial of the self, but rather acknowledgement that the self is not all there is and that it is better to live seeking to help others than to only help yourself. One leads to pleasure, the other to joy.
I know that may see like it goes contrary to what Star Wars is about, as in SW your forced to follow the Jedi or risk falling to the Dark Side, but I actually prefer this perspective. It doesn't adhere to the original ideal of the dicotomy of Star Wars, but it provides a hopeful message and shows how we can all strive to be like Lukes Jedi order or characters like Bastilla, rather than blind slaves to Ego or Self Tyranny. It removes the dichotomy and provides a third option, but I prefer that. It means theres hope for SW yet, and its a lesson on how we can all live our lives. Still loving and doing things for ourselves, but not forgetting that there are others who may need help too, and finding purpose in helping those people rather than solely ourselves. Thus we find a rewarding and satisfying purpose, while truly letting go of the desperate desire for power for powers sake. Yes, it can be hard to retain rationality and a level of selflessness when we have our own personal desires and attachments, but that is true strength and what we should all strive for.
Regarding Bastila, I think she ultimately fails as a Jedi. When the First Jedi Purge takes place she (along with several other Jedi) fail their mandate as Jedi and hide in exile. She's much like Yoda in the original trilogy where she's forsaken her role of protecting life for the sake of escaping death and maybe having a shot at being helpful later.
As for Yuthura, I think her major flaw was turning to the dark side in her attempt to end slavery. Which I guess was kind of inevitable as being a former slave she was strongly opposed slavery to the point where it could upset her or she'd relish in making her former masters suffer. Both of which would increase her chances of falling to the dark side. Although even before she began freeing slaves she was already a slave to the dark side by seeking greater and greater power instead of completing her original goal.
The issue with trying to be in between Sith and Jedi extremes is that it's really risky. You're constantly in an unstable point ready to roll down to either Jedi or Sith extremes all while limiting your full potential in either the light side or the dark side of the force.
I think this is spot on!
Bastilla both serves herself (by loving Revan) and others (by being a Jedi). This she achieved against heavy odds of failure, and recovering from dark corruption. I think she's a great example for inspiring hope in moving forward from being a blind slave (as you put it). Nice explanation!
We can also argue that it was the love of Darth Vader for his sons that saved him and the galaxy, and killing the Emperor and restoring balance to the force
So it's compassion AND love that in the end is the answer (it was also the same thing for Revan and Bastile, their love saved them)
That's why I think the conclusion of this video is wrong
@@cyberninjazero5659 There is a degree of futility when you consider the Rule of One that comes in the century following the New Republic. The New Republic is a particularly turbulent time for political and grey jedi related reasons, and it seems a lasting peace is impossible. Whether that means sacrificing their humanity is actually serving the lesser of two evils is the question that the New Jedi Order wrangles with.
@@beskamir5977 I think ultimately, peace isn't an option long term. The Sith will always return and the Jedi will always be there to fight and end them. So I think its better to follow a more Lukes Jedi Philosophy whereby you can teach your students that they cant get rid of emotion, but they can learn to control it so that it doesn't come at the cost of others. That way, you lessen the frequency for Jedi to fall to the dark side by teaching them how to find harmony with their emotions rather than denying the emotions completely. I think many Fallen Jedi wouldn't have fallen if they hadn't felt such extreme frustration with the order due to their inability to get rid of their emotions. By showing that emotion will always exist and that some emotions can even be channeled positively, its much less likely to have a Jedi fall to the dark side. Think of it as being super strict to a teenager. When they get a bit more freedom in college, they're going to completely indulge in the things you tried to keep them from. But if you teach the teenager how to be responsible and show them that a bit of indulgence is ok so long as they're responsible, that teenage is much less likely to go off the deep end when they go to college. And I also dont think Lukes order limited the potential strength of the Jedi in the light side.
Wow what was that quote at the very end? That was amazing.
Quite a journey man - it’s so crazy the implications of what you’ve found. Your work has inspired me for a long time man. Now you’re continuing to inspire me and additionally helping me get grounded.
that is john galt's speech. it is an exposition of the philsophy of Ayn Rand
Thank You.
I'm still watching your Kreia videos from time to time.
I see so many similarities within our world. Civilizations, rules, cycles, "villains" that rise, "heroes" that defeat them, and vice versa. History repeats itself. It's like a never-ending spiral. I wonder why...
Probably because humans are still too young as a species
To quote Robert Stadler: "It's so wonderful to see a great, new, crucial idea which is not mine!"
Dabi2K It has been changed on here for two weeks already lmao
I swear man this is genius. Truely an in depth look into a fictional world that I believe everyone should see. Every video about it. Please keep continuing this artistic genus in all future videos. Never change. Two simple words: Thank You
Short comment from a person who found this video within the last 24 hours. This channel is insanely amazing and gives soooooo much input on thinking about life,purpose and identity. Stay as awesome as you are and keep up the wonderful work
I love Star Wars so much and I’ve watched this video nearly 15 times. I have also added this video to a playlist I’ve made. Thank you for sharing such uncommonly acknowledged knowledge of Star Wars that many fans need to hear!
This video is a masterpiece. It does a stellar job of explaining the foundations of the Star Wars universe. God bless you, Rikafag: I look forward to to hearing you discuss other topics, now that you are done with Star Wars.
This is all so very disturbing.
These videos on Star Wars are educational life lessons.
Thank you for making these!
So basically the balance in the Force can be likened to your bedroom.
When it's clean and everything is in place where it's supposed to be, it's peaceful and balanced.
But eventually, the room will become messy and dirty again. That's not nice.
So then you have to clean it again, ridding it of the dust mites known as Sith and the potato chips crumbs known as the Dark Side, until everything is clean and nice again.
Jedi are life's cleaners.
if it was never dirty, how can you say it is clean? if it was already clean it can’t get cleaner? how dirty can it get to the point where it is considered “unique” or “unorthodox” and where being clean is unoriginal (or the other way around?), does being dirty defined as a verb, a noun? dirt as in all dirt that *you* consider as dirt (personal preferences to what you think dirt is)? dirt as in bacteria? dirt as in ocd? clean as being organized? clean as in being minimal? clean as in mentally clean?
In-universe logic aside, emotions -- including *negative* emotions -- are themselves a natural part of life. Avoidance and repression of emotions, instead of learning how to face & channel them in a healthy way, is what leads to psychological imbalance.
Obi Wan in TCW "It's not that we're not allowed to have these emotions, it's natural". Yoda in TCW "My dark side you are. Control over me you have not. Through patience and training, it is I who controls you. Part of me you are, reject you I do"
And you're explanation is closer to the actual in universe laws
@pyropulse
Negative feelings exist to directly alert an individual, at a subjective level, that something is wrong and motivate them to take corrective action.
That said, it sounds to me like you've trained yourself to live in a constant state of repression, because you can't be bothered with handling your shit like an adult. Not healthy.
EVERYBODY at Disney Star Wars should have this as a handbook. EVERYBODY
If that’s you’re conclusion then just stop watching, I don’t understand Americans🤦🏾♂️
bryan c I’m sorry, but what does being American have anything to do with the topic at hand?
let it go
let star wars die
@@bryanc7094 fuck are you talking about sir? if people are fans of something they're gonna want to see the best in it. why do people need to stop watching? you think americans are the only people that get disappointed at things? Idk if you can tell but that's essentially what your words mean
I'm pretty sure they know that
"Canon" within Star Wars is defined by whatever exists within the IP holders' vision of their property, whether you (or I) like it or not. Excluding EU or Disney information because it would weaken your points is self-defeating.
I feel like because of a few fans falsely equating balance to the existence of darkness and the sith, too many fans have taken their own binary counterstances in Bible-thumping George's original cowboys and indians morality concept as immutable law. The narrative potential of Star Wars is a lot like those force sensitive children. Sure, if you let them go wild, some of the stories may end up being a mess. Some may advance Star Wars into a direction that saves the IP for decades to come. But the potential for any evil or failure at all exists. So, as a result, people want to remove the ability to explore that potential and rigidly use a stereotype of how Lucas generally envisioned good and evil. They want to brainwash the younglings because something "might" go wrong with Star Wars. Until the franchise has died already, of course.
The concept of balance within the light side and actual human existence really needs to be explored. And you can't do that with Jedi. A universe full of life is just as valid as a barren one that contains no life at all - we're the only judges of worth that exist, so why is the self something to be murdered? I feel like Anakin asked the question the best in the RotS novelization: If all life is so meaningless that death should be celebrated, why do we bother saving anyone at all? Yoda responded with anger and chastisement, without actually responding to the question. Why? Because there is no answer for humanity in their teachings. Nothing beyond wishing to maximize the amount of generic life growing in the galaxy at any point. They worship death of self, and punish the instincts of sapients, which are born out of the life that is supposedly so intrinsically good. That may be balanced, but it is unevenly distributed against the force sensitive, for the benefit of a faceless mass of unidentified life. Under their judgment, life exists to exist, for no purpose at all, as non-sapients have no judgment of worth, and sapients are to be berated for possessing sapience at all. Jedi philosophy is meaningless. I've always felt Anakin's question summed up the failure of Jedi teachings better than anything. If they're to continue existing, they can't treat enlightenment as the total destruction of self in enslavement to life that has not earned its right to exist; there needs to be an answer.
Why am I not surprised to find you here, Plague?
This whole video is right up your alley.
I think the core problem with this video is that it deliberately ignores huge parts of Star Wars-related media to strengthen its point. It is, as you said, self-defeating and makes the whole video seem disingenous.
The video also makes multiple assumptions and flat out wrong statements. One of the biggest ones is they state that Force Sensitivity is something that only sapient life can wield. This is very incorrect, sapient life are not the only beings capable of using The Force. Both in and outside of the old and new EUs are creatures capable of instinctively using The Force in all three of the types of abilities (Light, Universal, Dark) that were described. Vornskrs for instance use The Force to locate and kill prey, just as their main prey the ysalamiri instinctively project Force negation bubbles to protect themselves from the former.
The other big thing is that Light and Dark are not aspects of The Force because The Force has no aspects. This is demonstrably not true, otherwise the Light and Dark Side would not linger despite any Force Users around to manipulate The Force in such a way. There are areas in the galaxy that are filled with the Light Side such as Dantooine and areas filled with the Dark Side such as Korriban for example.
DraculaCronqvist I disagree.This video was trying to focus on Lucas’s direct works, not the works others did in Lucas’s name or what he signed off on without directly contributing to.I don’t agree with everything said or even the overall message of the video but I get what he was going for
yea...I dont count the last movies as canon but i like kylo...and to an extent the rest of the characters I just dont think the "story" they were in did anything soi choose to de-cannonize some of disney starwars lol
I just sat through an hour and thirty-seven minutes of why the Star Wars universe as a whole sounds like a living hell. The mantra of Let Go was...especially haunting, if the core of Star Wars of letting go of everything that's worth enjoying life, only looking forward to death, simply because you're intelligent and skilled...how can you blame people for looking for a middle-ground?!
Kreia was right; apathy IS death.
4 hours of content, analysing the psychological basis of the entirety of star wars... to come to the conclusion that you hate what it stands for.
Bravo, Rika.
So, the Jedi and the Anti-Spirals share a thing or two, eh?
Senate OP does that make us the Spirals?
@@blackraptor1154 Maybe
@@blackraptor1154 Spirals are Sith. Their passions furthers their usage of the Force.
Getter Rays > The Force
CONSUME, EVOLVE
There's so many important lesson to be taken from this analysis.
Thanks, dear name in blank.
This one and some of your other videos (I've not seen all of them yet) have helped to change my worldview in regards to power, responsability and ethics in general.
Thanks, again, for your time and effort. You've affected someone in a (probably) very far part of the world.
Greetings from Chile!
You never disappoint in your ability to reveal an overarching narrative that flys so easily over our heads.
Great work sir!
Loved the video and I love(d) Star Wars, I still do; you know the fact that this video it's been made at all it's beyond impressive, the fact that Star Wars is such a massive universe that allows this type of essays and even more it's just ahhhh I love it.
Better stop here before my inner Star Wars fanboy gets the better of me, amazing video as always Rika
Is this truly the death of star Wars? Or are you merely facilitating communications and putting an end to hostilities?
The external wars will wage on, but now there is an internal standard for which rational people can conclude it for themselves.
Star Wars will never die, it's stylistically designed to be that way.
Bah, what do you newer models know?
@@ThePoshboy1 pretty much and therefore there will never be a CONCLUSIONS of the Series that will led to resolution. the Star wars Universe is DOOMED for all eternity as long as people as a Fan keep latching onto Star Wars Franchise for more Conflict story sake. thats why the people need to LET GO of Star wars as the movie itself as its just being nothing but misery and also Silly to think that Star Wars would improve people's life/perspective.
You can decide for yourself. I watched the video but it doesn't make me love Star Wars any less. I love the adventures, I love the setting, I love the characters and no foundations, feeling of doom of this galaxy can't make me hate it. I still waiting for the next Mandalorian season just because there is a good plot and adventure focused narrative like it's a road movie.
This video is an absolutely magnificent analysis which lends a completely new depth to my appreciation of star wars' modern mythology. It also demonstrates the the storytelling potential within this system and poses questions about what is worthwhile in the face of enevitablilty, both as media to an audience and, to some degree, in ones own life.
"Dark powers, like Force Choke, only deal in loss of life."
Hey man, don't kink shame me.
The Force: A ubiquitous lifeblood of the universe, built to evolve over time. Over the years, the deeper lore/mechanics of the Force become obscured as characters and plotlines take precedent. It is up to individual scholars to harness and understand the flow and intended outcome of these energies, and influence the fabric of reality itself through their works, in a search of a balance in spite of the conflicting desires that resurface anew through generations, irrespective of blood; all beings are imbued with energy, and thus must act in the grand drama, whether willing or otherwise. Destiny undefined, but still ultimately taking familiar shapes. The Sensitive are the loci and foci of such energies and potential, to more readily fill a place in a cohesive narrative that we call Mythology.
Star Wars fans: Yeah that's cool, but Force Germs dumb.
Force Germs are indeed dumb. It introduces one glaring issue to the plot that no one wants to address. If connection to the force is based on what is essentially bacteria, why didn't any breed them and artificially create force sensitives? Why would anyone bother waiting for the natural thing, when you could just create powerful users without chance. This seems like something the Sith would do. How do you explain this away without sounding like an asspull?
@@Harvest133 I havent brushed up on my sith alchemy much, but there is plenty of material, particularly in the old plagueis novels that covers such questions. I also distinctly remember dooku implant greivous with more midichlorians in an attempt to turn him into a force sensitive. It did not actually make grievous a force sensitive, but according to dooku it did or at least would sharpen his senses and increase his perception and ability to combat force users.
However, both of these are no longer canon and I do not know if any new canon sources have even attempted to cover them
Thank you, Rika Furude from Higurashi.
Thank you so much for making this video. Might have been the best experience I've ever had on youtube, not only making me appreciate Star Wars even more but seeing how Lucas' concepts of happiness portrayed in cinema translates to real life has been introspective.
The pain of loving Star Wars, is realizing what such a world would be to live in, and what that says about our own in it's creation and its themes.
This is the type of video I'll have to watch several times to truly digest all of it. I think Letting Go is going to be the most important take away from this if nothing else learned. As the Star Wars fan base tends to be one that clutches nostalgia so tightly that it doesn't let the art breathe. Fantastic video and I really cannot comment anymore without watching again and diving deeper into the topics discussed. I hope you won't be quitting UA-cam as I appreciate your content. I understand however if you're going to be moving on to bigger things. Either way thank you for the content put out and sharing this with everyone, good luck to your future endeavors.
Sincerely, Someone who loved Star Wars
If I let go I'll stop caring, and I don't want that. I want to better my understanding of Star Wars so I can learn to appreciate it in totality. Sure, Disney fucked it up and Kathleen Kennedy is basically the feminist equivalent of a Sith Lord, but George Lucas' stories will always remain near and dear to my heart. I was raised on them, after all.
@@FriendlyDarkwraith Please don't insult the Sith like that.
@@crystalquasar6841 You're right, they deserve better than to be compared with the likes of KK.
This video makes the precuels to look better than the OGs due to their nature of being a tragedy caused by the force, which I like since I grew up with the precuels. Great video.
One of the most interesting aspects of Star Wars was the power of Love and it’s influence on Force Sensitives. It was considered a dangerous emotion by both the Jedi and Sith, but not by the Grey Jedi. To the Jedi, love is a form of attachment and leads to the dark side, and that is the most obvious one, of course. To the Sith, love is a weakness that can lead them to redemption. They are a more interesting case to me, since there have been very few examples of Sith falling in love and one even wonders if they are truly capable of such things but it does happen sometimes and with very different outcomes.
Darth Sion loved the Exile, and that proved to be a weakness for him. Darth Malgus loved his Twi’lek slave, and decided to kill her because he recognized that weakness and used the regret to fuel his rage. Bastila loved Revan and their bond was used to redeem her, and the same could be said of Mara Jade and Luke.
As Jolee Bindo once said, passion is what should be controlled, but love itself will save you, not condemn you. That’s why I also have to disagree with you on Vader’s redemption being based out of pity. Anakin and Vader were considered two separate entities, completely apart from one another. Obi-Wan said Vader betrayed and murdered Anakin (from a certain point of view), the Emperor told Vader that Luke was “the offspring of Anakin Skywalker” as if he was talking to another man, and even Vader himself said “that name no longer had any meaning for me” but he directly contradicted all of that when he said “I am your father!”. From that moment on, Vader acknowledged Luke as his own son, and in Return, he knew he loved him as a father, therefore opening the bridge to reconnect with his past self. No one else had a love bond strong enough to turn him back, not Obi-Wan, not even Ahsoka. Perhaps Padmé or Leia could, but they were unavailable at the time. Then again, maybe HK-47 had it right all along and the best example of love is making a shot to the knees of a target 120 kilometers away using an Aratech sniper rifle with a tri-light scope...
Jolee saying that love saves you, not condemn you doesn't make it so. This is why I stuck to only the six movies rather than anything else in Legends or the Sequels, including the Clone Wars tv show.
So you’re a George Lucas purist, and that’s fine. I tried searching for an interview with the man himself, to get the author’s own take on the subject and this is what he says: “Even the worst, most evil people find compassion. Darth Vader has compassion for his children, and that’s ultimately what children are for.”
So compassion is what truly redeemed Vader, but what is compassion, though? Anakin in Episode II defines it as unconditional love and that it is central to a Jedi’s life.
It’s an interesting perspective. Basically, romantic love is usually conditional, possessive, and it can lead to dark side. While compassionate love (and that includes a father’s love for his children) is unconditional and altruistic, and it leads to the light side.
I think that ultimately means that Jedi could form relationships, as long as they were platonic or with no strings attached, and they should be prepared to let go, when the time comes.
It also reminds me of the relationship between Master and Padawan. There’s an episode in the Clone Wars that clearly shows this contrast. When Ahsoka and Bariss Offee are in danger, their masters had whole different takes on the situation. Luminara showed no meaningful bond to Bariss beyond that of a master, and was completely willing to let go of her if she were to die, while Anakin basically loved Ahsoka as his little sister, and would move heaven and earth to see her safe. Then, I believe we have the middle ground (and the high ground) in Obi-Wan, he openly admits he loves Anakin like a brother, but he was willing to let him go, no matter how much it hurts. To me, that’s the best possible mindset and it could be adapted to romance, since Obi-Wan himself did it with Satine.
Love itself isn’t harmful. On the contrary, it’s a very good thing. It’s the breaking of the bond and the fear of such loss that truly corrupts. So the Jedi seek to avoid feeling any love whatsoever, because it’s too risky and not everyone has the self-control to be willing to let go of it. It’s a cruel, yet effective circumvention of the problem, but ultimately not a solution.
@@TheGeneral1292 The Jedi in the clone wars were politicized and represented religious dogma over true spirituality and the axioms of nature. When Qui-gon died, the last spirit of the true Jedi mentality was lost, and wouldn't return until Qui-gon began instructing Yoda to find the path to immortality and the wellspring of life (Though I would argue that yoda still lacked empathy required).
Like all things in life, love is not inherently a bad thing. It's a natural survival mechanism that was wired into our brains as co-existence with others helps our survival rate, and to pass on our genes.
Love like any emotion is not inherently wrong, but the problem is that when we experience emotions it cause anxiety or distress within ourselves. Jedi are supposed to practice mindfulness and to let go of their emotions and accept the realities of nature, but this can be difficult.
The reason the Jedi slowly removed themselves from relationships or sexual encounters was due to the potential nature of corruption, especially within individuals who lack will-power or the ability to stay in the present, without worrying about the future (Anakin's fears of Padme's death). It also requires the ability to understand that all relationships will eventually end, as people grow older, move away, or in some instances, die.
There is nothing inherently evil by having or feeling love, but love is not the same thing as passion, just as lust and desire is not the same as love. The issue is that with love comes the potential to control one's life through toxic relationships, and abusive nature when the time for that relationship to end comes. And in the context of star wars, attempting to control another's life for your own selfish desires is no different than using the force for your own selfish desires. All life is the force, and to dominate it and mold it for your own goals or pictures--will lead a force user to falling to darkness.
damn the fraction of how many force sensitives there are compared to all people gave me the chills. And then I remembered when Kreia said "you are more rare than you know". And the chills got much more intense.
Thank you, this video is both insightful for someone who was already in the know and also it is independent and digestible for someone who never thought about star wars in this way. It is very helpful to me in many ways.
Time after time your videos never fail to impress me. You help us see the bigger picture that most fail to notice.
I didn't know it was possible, but a new video from you showed up in my feed after months and it's a miracle.
Just found this now and letting go can be one of the many hardships one can endure in certain parts of people's lives.
Even if this comment doesn't grasp the video as a whole I still love how much detail and work you put into these.
Dot in this video in a nutshell: “Ugh I grow weary of this... perhaps TIME will allow my words to take root if common sense will not permit it.”
The Jedi's teachings aren't wrong, but they're imperfect enough to lead to horrible mistakes.
Even though their philosophy of striving for zen and letting go of attatchments is a good direction, they do not train the Jedi at all to have the *RESISTANCE* to attatchments.
It's hard to say whether the selfish uses of the Force are corrupting only due to human nature, or due to some outside rule making Force usage more "addictive", but it's clear that whenever a Jedi is put in a situation that tests their ability to maintain control of attatchments, they pretty often fail completely.
The masters don't tell their students to understand and control their emotions, they much more often tell their students to discard and ignore them. While that's a logical reaction, because of how easily one can be corrupted by the Force, it's one that can have devastating long-term consequences.
The best kinds of Jedi, in my assessment, are ones like Windu and Luke: generally following the teachings of the Jedi as an ideal to strive for, but malleable enough to make exceptions depending on the sitiation and with enough mental strength to resist corruption, without having to achieve complete zen.
For your negative assessment of the "Apatethic Jedi", I feel like their choice might actually be the best in the long run. Sure, they aren't actively participating in defeatinf evil, but they're also not endangering anyone else by distancing themselves from the rest of life. If a Jedi proves to not have enough mental strength to stand up to corruptive influences, exile would be the best possible choice for them.
Here's what I think I'm trying to say: The Jedi's failure is that they act with accordance to reality, but not with accordance to humanity's limitations. They don't treat their ideology as a general idea that should be upheld whenever possible, but as an absolute, where any breaking of "the rules of nature" will inevitably lead to corruption. They do not promote the understanding and acceptance of one's own emotional limitations, but force people into a life of constant servitude and, ironically enough, don't think of the long-term consequences of such a mentality.
The reason that Luke is the greatst Jedi in the galaxy is that he can strattle that line. He's lived a life full and rich enough of friends and family, joy, anger, fear, hope, faith and confidence, he has a very simple, but logical approach to life. He's emotionally sensitive to the point that he can see the hidden good in Vader or to let Han help the Rebellion "on his own terms", culminating in the final rejection of his desire to kill Vader.
His strength doesn't lie in the fact that he didn't let his emotions run rampant.
His strength lies in his ability to know when he would be going over the edge.
The one thing that really brings out every problem that happens in the SW universe is that
1. Force Sensitive people will always be born, at random
2. Using the Force is insanely corruptive
In the real world, power is usually brought out either through succession or a lifelong, personal journey of training and honing one's own talents. And in the real world, power isn't actually as corrupting as it is in Star Wars, maybe partially because humans don't yet have the same levels of power as Force Sensitives.
It's like a body that's never experienced illness before suddenly getting sick. Also, apathetic Jedi only work as long as there are no Sith. If there are Force Users who use their power to oppress others, and no Jedi to stop them, then the Sith have already won. It's why Luke was so retarded in TLJ. Hiding on an island to die and molesting space manatees isn't going to magically make the Sith disappear.
@@FriendlyDarkwraith It was actually the most logical thing to do at that moment. Since Luke believed that there were no more Sith left to fight, he didn't want to risk becoming one down the line. I mean, he was already strattling the line. And, his own fear is what basically created Kylo Ren.
Besides, my point isn't that all Jedi should be apathethic, but only those that were too weak of spirit to not be pulled to the Dark Side.
This guy is taking us all to school. This is a fantastic analysis man. You need to be high up there with SW Theory and The Lore Master, etc.
58:38 The Flaw of Capitalism
1:01:10 Metaphysical Rigidity
1:03:14 Dichotomy of Technology
1:04:26 The Ontology of Sapience
1:10:25 Jar Jar Binks
1:13:05 Metaphysical Self-Corrective Measure
1:13:29 The Methodology of Rationality
1:15:03 -The Corruption of Coexistence
1:18:16 Meta-Ethics
one of these things is not like the others
"It will be my final video on Star Wars" - but i want more :(
Unfortunately there's not much more to be said
he literally solved star wars. what else is there
he literally says in the vid that he hates starwars, I highly doubt he wants to pour any more effort than he already has into something he does not enjoy
No no…your-still HOLDING ON!! LET GO!!!
Jar-Jar is the solution to everything
Meta Physicus Scapegoat the Final Solution to the JQ (Jedi Question) in Jar Jar Abraham’s. You are an order 66 denier.
He really was. Thanks to him Palpatine became Emperor.
Are you saying he's the key to all this?
Yes.. the Final Solution.
@@srj34 He was. He gave emergency powers to Palpatine under the Republic.
Episode 2, just in case.
I am just posting to make this content more popular. You are just so good turning thoughts into words!
Here is a mind candy:
- Star Wars is also about failure of the Jedi to realize that Hope, which is one of their most powerful weapons, is also applied to the ones that fall to the Dark Side. To assume that those who fall to the Dark Side are irredeemable is an absolute and contradicts Jedi teachings only to further empower the Dark Side. The true realization comes from understanding not prevention, constriction and dogmatism. The precedent is that the Jedi order with it's rules is not the proper way to achieve the balance. Bending these rules, the outcast and unfit child that will not let go of it's emotional attachments, but will be taught the rational way of the Jedi and his son that is the first un-orhtodox force user in thousand years are the ones that will bring balance to the force. This is the real story Lucas told in Star Wars.
You Kreia video was some of the dopest star wars material I've ever heard of. I never got into the video games purely from lack of knowing about them. Good stuff 👏peace ✌😁
The only alternative is systematically killing all force sensitives indiscriminately. I suppose that was somewhat explored by the extragalactic threat of Yuuzhan Vong in EU.
That was covered on the Philosophy of Kreia video, for it was her final plan.
However, since Star Wars binds life itself to the Force by midichlorians, this could result in major destruction for all beings.
I have a theory/fanfic that we (Earth) are between the Yuuzhan Vong galaxy and the Star Wars galaxy and the mythological historical stuff were real, but the Vong cleansed our galaxy from those oppressive powers before arriving to the Star Wars galaxy
@@TheRAGXD Actually the people could be turned into corrupted life forms that operate without midichlorians like the Vong species, but we won't automatically become unstoppable world conquerers
Well weren't the Vong force sensitive? Though because of the amount of disregard for life and their experimentation in the forming of life, war -like nature and genocide of an entire galaxy that they were cutoff from the Force? Well except Onimi.
@@sergioruiz733 they had normal midichlorian counts with some of them being Force sensitive until the symbiosis in their galaxy broke
It seemed to me as though right after the Lucas speech on pleasure vs. joy, you conflate the two and contradict Lucas. Based on what he was saying, I understand that the Jedi ARE allowed to experience joy, because joy in rooted in compassionate action. By being selfless, Jedi attain a form of long lasting happiness. They unfortunately deny themselves pleasures, but do so for both the greater good of the galaxy and a more fulfilling happiness.
You misunderstood that joy, in Lucas' definition is to be selfless, giving yourself to others through compassion. As Anakin says with his date with Padme, compassion is unconditional love for the rest of life and forbidding all personal attachments. The Jedi are agaisnt pleasure and happiness by demanding spiritual renunciation of reality to always live in the present. Again, joy is neutral and depends on its time measurement. What kind of joy do the Jedi allow? The 'joy' of self-immolation.
@@The.UA-camr.with.no.Name. Nowhere is anything ever stated that Jedi cannot have joy. George himself contradicts this theme.
@@The.UA-camr.with.no.Name. NO it's the joy of satisfaction.
@@The.UA-camr.with.no.Name. Lucas defines joy the same way everyone else does. He simply says that being selfless produces more joy than selfishness and focusing on pleasure. The Jedi are FOR pleasure and happiness by helping others. The joy the jedi offer is the joy of contentment
@@ryanmoore6259 No one uses joy for contentment. Joy is positive stimuli. Everyone uses joy for 'good, positive thing happening' which is how I define it. Lucas has to go joy = compassion. The fact that he has to make jumping equivalence between words and concepts is what confuses things.
Great analysis! Thanks. I finally decided to watch The Clone Wars and the one thing thats bothering me the most is that the Jedi seem to never talk about the Force. But maybe thats the point: the Jedi are losing touch with the their core beliefs?
I agree with all of this. I Except the Axum. I will live with it and grow in understanding from it. Thank you for your work, it is one of the if not the most in depth analysis I have herd.
You've eloquently elucidated the feeling I've had of the Star Wars setting I felt ever since I was a child. Somehow, despite my attachments to the characters and the stories, I always instinctively knew that the Star Wars galaxy would be depressing to live in, with what you described as the dichotomy of Sadomasochism or Sadism.
Freedom is nonexistent for those who are "born special", and the great can never truly be "great", in the sense of true self-actualization. Metaphysically enforced equity.
Even in our world where we are blessed to be free of these gilded chains, enforcing equity and egalitarianism for "the greater good" often leads to catering to the "lowest common denominator" to the detriment of all.
Wonderfull essay ., thank you for all this work! If only 10% of UA-cam and media had this level of care and impact, I think we would be in a better place.
You're exactly right. This video says in less than two hours what I've been trying to piece together and ramble about for like 10 years.