@Aaron Van Domelen yeah its so much more helpful cause i ran into so many of these same issues that i wouldnt have known what to do with if they had just skipped to when everything worked.
Hey! Love your tutorials! I'm moving from FCPX to Resolve. Cloud collab between editor/director (me) and colourist (remote) is one of the big reasons. Our projects are multi-cam shoots and have huge media pools (15TB to 25TB is common - 5 or 6 cameras shooting 4 or 5 days in ArriRAW UHD for example). I don't want to work off a NAS, I need a fast RAID directly attached for my multicam to work well - and the colourist def doesn't want to be from a remote server over the 'net. BM (in their own demo video) suggests you share footage on a DropBox, but uploading 20TB to DropBox would take days. We've tried just using our own copies of the media on local drives, it didn't work - each user had to relink media and that unlinked the other user when they did so. This turned out to because our file paths were different (and they always will be as your home folder will be your own name, on a Mac at least) it just doesn't work. Eventually we figured out how to make it work by using the file path settings in project management to point Resolve to the media drive via each users' unique file path. (You need any folder structure beyond that to be the same, so best for all to work off mirrored clones of the master drive). The file-path settings menu is pretty niche and I can't find much about it, beyond a single page in the manual... And this seems like a crucial step in utilising the Cloud sharing - after all, isn't the point not having to serve the media but only the project? This must be a common situation... once shooting is done the media won't change, so no need for syncing, just take home your own copy. This difficulty in linking the Media Pool between users feels like a major obstacle on Cloud collaboration working as people might imagine it would. It can be fixed but only by using some niche PM settings. Would you consider a deeper dive in to how to use Cloud project sharing when each user has their own, local copy of the project media? What do you think? Thanks! Tim (www.timvansomeren.com)
hi Tim - just wondering if (7 months later) you landed on a reasonable workflow? you described the most likely situation in my mind re cloned drives going to different places... but cloud collaboration could (is?) be amazing in many respects...
@@coreyhendrickson Hi Corey. The Cloud in BM is great Here are the ways I use it: - For small data projects (less than 500GB ish) I put all media in a Dropbox. Each user can set a file path in the project settings to their own dropbox and then media will stay in sync. I do this for personal projects as well as multi-user as it means I can work off my desktop or laptop and always have the latest version. I also set my Cache, Optimised Media and Proxy Media to be in the DropBox so this all stays sync'ed as well. Be warned, you can't open a local version if you are off-line. So don't think you can open it on a plane for example. You can easily move the project to a local drive if you want to work off-line. Just do this before you need it! - For large data projects (more than 500GB - any size where int would be impractical to upload media to the cloud) we make clone drives of initial source media after the shoot and physically give one to each user. In the cloud project we use file paths to navigate to our own drive's top level folder, then the rest will match between users as your drives are cloned and will work for everyone. I then use Dropbox for new media that comes in after the edit has begun. So if GFX, or credits, or new audio mixes, or any smaller updated media is added, put this in the dropbox so all users have it and they will see the new media when they open on their machine. An alternate way is for all users but one to use proxies. This is because you can work in proxies even if you don't have the camera originals. As long as you select "prefer proxies" in the playback menu, it works fine. So, one user (the colourist usually) gets the master drive with the Raw footage. They make proxies and set the Dropbox as the proxy location. Then others can work on proxies only with no real drawbacks (apart from resolution, but ProRes Proxy, for example, looks great).
@@coreyhendrickson No problem. With your NAS v Cloud question: The main reason BlackMagic Cloud works for me is because each user keeps their Source Media LOCALLY. The *project* is kept in the cloud on BlackMagic's servers, but actual *media* does NOT have to stream from a remote server, you already have it on or physically attached to your editing computer. The first principle of this working in a multi-user set-up is that each user needs EXACTLY the SAME media so that the SHARED PROJECT works for everyone. The easiest way to achieve this duplicated source media is with a service that sync's a every user's local storage folder - and this is exactly what DropBox does - so it's the easiest way to have matching LOCAL storage with another user. A NAS is storage that is not local to you (unless you are the owner of the physical NAS drive). If a remote user is linking to a NAS via the internet, then they are now streaming footage for their edit over the 'net (rather than from a local drive) and that slows things down - exactly what I (personally) don't want with my multi camera editing. So a NAS would only be useful if it was a source for syncing my local drive with another user's local drive. And we have DropBox so why bother with a NAS? Does that make sense?
Hej Casey: Big Thank you for not just talking about the feature, but actually trying it out! Helps a lot to understand the tools. Also pretty well edited, as you can see and feel how it goes. Great video.
I am so learning everything about DaVinci 18 from you!!!!! Thank you for everything you do I needed and your are are there giving me exactly what I needed! 🙏🏽
What about the network? Is there any tutorial out there showing how to use it on a network? Or should i select cloud when the 2 pc's are on the local network?
Yeah just use it over the cloud. Thats what we do and it works great. You can do a local network thing, but it's a ton of work to set up. Cloud is super easy
@@CaseyFaris Yeah ive just come to realise this lol, tried setting up 2 pc's as me and my brother work on projects together and it's a nightmare. Gonna give cloud a shot! thanks Casey!!
What about plugins? Will all collaborators have access to the plugins that are used in the project, as far as being able to edit parameters, make changes, add plugins, etc? I can't find the answer to this anywhere on the web.
When we send an email for collaboration using the Blackmagic Cloud option, is there a chance that the software activation key could get leaked while working with collabrator? Please let me know.....😢😢
Excellent - so much power in Resolve 18 and we all will have the same struggles as you guys since some of this is not immediately intuitive - besides real men do not need to read the manuals. :). I have found you learn by watching or having examples. Hence UA-cam Videos. :). Good job showing the real struggles to get it right and working.
Logically it’s impossible for two or more people to edit on one timeline, that would cause all worlds of hurt, since on edit might split and move two clips while someone else moves that clip to another space and trim it - so locking a timeline is logical. Where this collab tool is powerfull is with cross disipline collabs, so one person is editing on one timeline, another is editing on another timeline/segment (not sure if this is possible now, but it should work), while another person is grading, since grading is actually not changing the original clip, grading just adds «commands» to a clip, a receipe for how to alter the pixel values at render time, and another could work on sound - so several people working on different aspects of a project is what this is for. Of course, you would never work on editing a timeline while someone else adds audio effects, since clip position and sound effect needs to match, but editing/mastering the audio tracks (like compressor, eq, effects etc) doesn’t alter the audio clips, and is not dependent on knowing where in the timeline they are, and same with color grade, it’s not dependent on video clip position in timeline is. Same thing with fusion, making a fusion clip is independent on where on the timeline the clip is, so an editor might move it around while someone is adding text effects to a clip and it should not cause problems.
But how can I work on a project locally (because its faster) and then when its time to color it, send a link to someone for them to have the "cloud version" of it? You know what im sayin?
And prey tell how does one get the Video Files and project to some one else? Do you have to do an (Export Project Archive) thru Drop Box or Google Drive?
In this case, they could both share the same network storage in the building. If they were "across state lines", they would set up a shared DropBox folder (online) and point their copies of Resolve to their own respective DropBox local folders. Blackmagic Cloud syncs the project, it does not sync the media.
@@gregh99 To be clear, with DR Cloud and DropBox we can share and edit a project remotely? I won't need any other specific hardware, other than a pc on the other end?
I recently purchased a Blackmagic speed editor and got a serial key for Davinci Resolve Studio 17, would i be able to get a free upgrade to Davince Resolve Studio 18?
Thank you for a great video tutorial. Just wondering... I don't need to, nor want collaboration. With that said, what are the advantages, if any, of signing up for the Blackmagic Cloud?
So, like I am completely new to DeVinci Resolve. That is because my Shotcut kept crashing on me and I wanted to see if I had better luck with Resolve. I'm not that savvy with computers to begin with so maybe it is my comp, who the heck knows. Glad I found you guys. :)
That was awesome. Did both of you have the same path to the media locally? I was not clear on how the media got shared. Was it in the cloud? Local network server shared disk? We do collab here using a mac mini as the DB server and a NAS for shared media. This cloud dealio is innnerestink tho :)
Recently subbed to the cloud server for better collaboration and workflow but I get the amber "I" icon saying incompatible. It appears my DR version isn't up to par. Even though it is v18, I think it still has to be the latest one to work. I need to upgrade to test that out
When you are dragging media into the cloud, where are you dragging it from? I can't figure out how to get media in there that is usable without the drive being plugged in. Helpppp pleeeeease
Dang and this thing is FREE, think I might just buy it to support them for all the free they have given us over the years. Kudos to these guys and you Casey for providing so much help and support to their software.
Having set up and used the local project database server for some projects now I can say it's invaluable once you have multiple people on the same project. It's not that hard to use but if you have a large network, aka more than one subnet, it quickly becomes cumbersome to manage. Not sure why but in 17 they wrote the database code to not be allowed to go across subnets by default. Had to have a super nerd friend do some crazy code editing to fix that. They did update the project server with Resolve 18 but for $5 per project database, and you don't have to manage that internally, it's a no brainer to go with the Blackmagic managed cloud solution. That also means you can work anywhere instead of just on site where the server is. At least without network VPN trickery. As long as you have a local copy of the source files. We use a NAS on site so content is central for editors. You added the comment in the video but there's basically two ways to work with shared projects. One is simply the project is shared and up to date without any version conflicts. Person A works on something, closes the project, person B picks up where A left off. That alone, without the potential for version conflicts (like with Drive or Dropbox timeline sharing) is great. A second person can open the same project at the same time but in read only mode. The next step is what you found part way through, multiple user collaboration. Now you both can have the same project open at the same time, you just can't edit the same timeline at the same time. One can edit, while another colors the same timeline, but otherwise you're on different timelines to be most effective. Or different tabs, one starts a rough edit while another works on Fusion graphics, ingests and organizes media, stuff like that. Ideally you would break things down further than one timeline. Person A works on an intro, B works on an interview, C works on B roll, stuff like that. Now you are all in the same project at the same time, but without competing for who is controlling timelines. For a short video, or a simple edit, that may not make sense. But for a large show with lots of parts, then it's amazing.
@@MoTheFcker Honestly I don't know. They make that feature for big production houses that need the security of having everything local. Big companies may not allow any cloud syncing to help with corporate theft. I don't have to worry about that, ha ha. Testing the cloud feature to not need the local project server anymore. If you know how to edit PostGre SQL databases, then you can edit the permissions and have project server work across an entire network with multiple subnets. I watched my buddy make it work and I got very lost very fast lol. But if you know that stuff, it's probably not that hard.
Hey Casey, I'm seeking a tutorial on how to manage media in general. I have tons of raw video clips, PNGs, sound effects, audio tracks, etc. For each project, I usually place them all in one folder but then I find myself reusing elements in other projects here and there. Once I move all these folders to my backup sever, all my links become a mess. What's the best way to organize digital data in Windows/MAC folders as well as Davinci Resolve?
amazing video! thanks :) How are you setup? both of you have to have the cloud pod or only one? If there are another editor in other country have to have another cloud pod? gracias!!!
Hello, Casey I need help trying to use the cloud collaboration with my brother but each time one of us edits a video the other user tries to refresh’s it but it’s shows “Media Offline” and can’t access it?
I like that collab is designed for editor doing edits, while the sound and color grading get done at the same time. Which makes sense in a way, you wouldn't need your colorist to muck around with the timeline, just like you wouldn't need your sound expert doing fusion work...
Hey ! How does it handle plugins (FilmConvert, Dehancer, Scatter, etc) or LUTs that are not present on each collaborating machine ? Any way to preview a grade made by the colorist with those tools if they are not installed in the editor’s Resolve app for example ? Thanks !
How does it handle media? I assume it's not uploading and storing the media in the cloud. Do you each have to have the same media and relinked? Or does cloud upload proxies?
Can this work between my desktop and laptop? I do a lot of editing between both systems for a client and I'd love to be able to not have to export my project each and every time I switch systems. So does the cloud work between multiple systems on the same account?
@@eriolarda two separate machines. the way cloud works is if you create a database in the cloud and log-in on two machines, you can access it on both. the cloud is the local database that can be accessed
Cool feature and video. Anyone know if someone has an existing project stored locally - can they make that a cloud project and invite others to collaborate on it? Or does it only work for a new project created in the cloud?
I think the big difference between what was done here, and what they did in the demo is the two of you used mirrored content in two locations, and they use a server with a shared single content source. With mirrored content I believe one person would have to be the project owner/manager and the other are limited collaborators in order to decide who has the right to alter and remove things from the project, because otherwise it could lead to accidental file mismatches or worse remote project hijackers.
This probably sounds foolish , but does both editors need the exact same footage on drives to access everything. ? Or can one have it edit in cloud .. & it will be there for next editor
What if you save after each edit then the other refreshes. Would they then have control? When it was single user, it would work when you saved. So I wonder if it would work the same way with multi user collab?
Adobe is on it's way out. The subscription model versus the 299 of Resolve Studio. Resolve has everything and now also the collaboration tool. The only thing in my mind Adobe is still good for for video pros is motion graphics, so After Effects.
Hey, im from Argentina, this feature is not active for my country yet, but i have a question since i recorded a documentary (tons and tons of GB of material). The question is: if my partner has a copy of all the files in his hard disk, can he "link" the media? or is a MUST to have all the files in the cloud? thanks and suscribed!
Thanks! That was great to see. It's awesome and great it's also available in the free version. It might be also great for a quick feedback process:Just showing client or collaboration partner how a certain grade would look like and he/she can instantly feedback to you from a remote place or perhaps give it a try himself. Also great for training purposes? You as a teacher can watch what the student is doing and intervene like a "driving instructor". I imagine it can speed up things a lot. Will be nevertheless waiting a bit for a version when it's a little "less beta".
I bought a new notebook recently, with Windows 11 installed. Microsoft interoduced a facility, Windows Subsystem for Linux - WSL - to allow users to run ext-based Linux distibutions under Windows. On Windows 11, thi feature is enhanced and I can nor wun graphics apoplications too. Not only that, but if I unstall an application on Linux, it can appear in the Windows menus and runs on the Windows desktop. The big question, how well does the Linux version of daVinci Resolve work in this environment?
Is the COLOW avaiable to FREE Davinci 18 or just studio 18? next question would this be good for TEACHING some one to edit or is it for 2 experienced editors to work on different fazes of a project like coloring etc?
@@CaseyFaris Nice. I'm working with a couple of kids who do the "rough cuts" and sometimes I want to correct it, Add to it - And now I need to upload the project and media to cloud, download it to me, Make the changes, Do some color corrections, upload it again, Then they download it again... You get the point.
What I kinda want to know is how you can send an edit to someone for coloring with proxies (like with the Cloud Store storage with proxies auto-generated). Can they grade on the proxies instead of having to download the originals? Would it be hard to grade since they wouldn't be the data-rich files? The grades would probably obviously copy over to the originals when re-linked, but... idk... that's my main question.
My primary concern would be sitting all my media up in their cloud. I would rather copy all my media files to my collaborators via some other means (email, Google Drive, or just mailing a hard drive), store those files directly on MY OWN computer, then just have the project file (the data about the edits made) up on their cloud. That way I have immediate access to my files, no third party ever sees my files, and only the small amount of metadata about the edits has to go back and forth over the internet. Please see if this is possible. Thanks.
Your media does not sit in their cloud. You can use any means like google drive, Dropbox, we transfer etc to send your media and all your collaborator has to do is to copy the files locally to his system and then relink them. Media is not in the cloud
Literally asked a second time: Casey why don't U answer questions: Is the CLOUD available to FREE Davinci 18 or just studio 18? next question would this be good for TEACHING some one to edit or is it for 2 experienced editors to work on different fazes of a project like coloring etc? Also can U mix FREE and STUDIO in Cloud Colegration?
9 months on, you're probably a guru on the cloud collaboration lol I see you guys discovered that the collaboration can happen using the free version of DR. So my question is, can one editor with the free version gain access to the timeline of the other editor with the Studio version in order to do some edits that are only limited to the Studio version? If that's not possible, then it forces both editors to have the studio version right? 🤔
@@CaseyFaris Awesome! Thanks Casey. One final thing, not sure if you mentioned it in your video here, but for Sam to be able to edit stuff on the same timeline, did he have to have the source files(original media) on his own system for it to work or was he just able to remotely edit on the timeline based on the source files being available at your end concurrently? I am wondering how easy the collaboration process would be if it so happens another collaborator has to have the original source media before being able to edit simultaneously (which is what I'm thinking might be the case). ... if the files are huge (say 3TB), it means one has to find a way to transfer those huge files over to the collaborator first right? HOPE my question makes sense :)
How much is it to use. I know davinci resolve is free and studio is around 300, but I saw that you have to pay five bucks a month I believe per project you create in the cloud. Is that correct? Is there a better solution to that.
It’s not per project, it’s per library. That is like your folder of projects. You can have tons of projects in one library. Like you can have 10 people collabing on 100 projects for 5dollars total per month.
@@CaseyFaris ah okay I see what you mean. That makes sense. Thank you for responding so quickly. Also loved the video. You two made it feel more realistic haha
Literally make this a series. 2 Editors struggling to test to collab features with little to no editing, the best.
+1
@Aaron Van Domelen yeah its so much more helpful cause i ran into so many of these same issues that i wouldnt have known what to do with if they had just skipped to when everything worked.
Please make this a series! Y’all are better than a sitcom.
You are a genious in placing irritating pauses mixed it with useful information. Definitely the most funny teaching i have seen on youtube.
That was hilarious 👍and informative 👍
Please do more of these! Great way to learn
Hey! Love your tutorials!
I'm moving from FCPX to Resolve. Cloud collab between editor/director (me) and colourist (remote) is one of the big reasons.
Our projects are multi-cam shoots and have huge media pools (15TB to 25TB is common - 5 or 6 cameras shooting 4 or 5 days in ArriRAW UHD for example).
I don't want to work off a NAS, I need a fast RAID directly attached for my multicam to work well - and the colourist def doesn't want to be from a remote server over the 'net.
BM (in their own demo video) suggests you share footage on a DropBox, but uploading 20TB to DropBox would take days.
We've tried just using our own copies of the media on local drives, it didn't work - each user had to relink media and that unlinked the other user when they did so.
This turned out to because our file paths were different (and they always will be as your home folder will be your own name, on a Mac at least) it just doesn't work.
Eventually we figured out how to make it work by using the file path settings in project management to point Resolve to the media drive via each users' unique file path.
(You need any folder structure beyond that to be the same, so best for all to work off mirrored clones of the master drive).
The file-path settings menu is pretty niche and I can't find much about it, beyond a single page in the manual...
And this seems like a crucial step in utilising the Cloud sharing - after all, isn't the point not having to serve the media but only the project?
This must be a common situation... once shooting is done the media won't change, so no need for syncing, just take home your own copy.
This difficulty in linking the Media Pool between users feels like a major obstacle on Cloud collaboration working as people might imagine it would.
It can be fixed but only by using some niche PM settings.
Would you consider a deeper dive in to how to use Cloud project sharing when each user has their own, local copy of the project media?
What do you think?
Thanks!
Tim (www.timvansomeren.com)
hi Tim - just wondering if (7 months later) you landed on a reasonable workflow? you described the most likely situation in my mind re cloned drives going to different places... but cloud collaboration could (is?) be amazing in many respects...
@@coreyhendrickson
Hi Corey. The Cloud in BM is great
Here are the ways I use it:
- For small data projects (less than 500GB ish) I put all media in a Dropbox.
Each user can set a file path in the project settings to their own dropbox and then media will stay in sync.
I do this for personal projects as well as multi-user as it means I can work off my desktop or laptop and always have the latest version.
I also set my Cache, Optimised Media and Proxy Media to be in the DropBox so this all stays sync'ed as well.
Be warned, you can't open a local version if you are off-line. So don't think you can open it on a plane for example. You can easily move the project to a local drive if you want to work off-line. Just do this before you need it!
- For large data projects (more than 500GB - any size where int would be impractical to upload media to the cloud) we make clone drives of initial source media after the shoot and physically give one to each user. In the cloud project we use file paths to navigate to our own drive's top level folder, then the rest will match between users as your drives are cloned and will work for everyone.
I then use Dropbox for new media that comes in after the edit has begun. So if GFX, or credits, or new audio mixes, or any smaller updated media is added, put this in the dropbox so all users have it and they will see the new media when they open on their machine.
An alternate way is for all users but one to use proxies.
This is because you can work in proxies even if you don't have the camera originals. As long as you select "prefer proxies" in the playback menu, it works fine.
So, one user (the colourist usually) gets the master drive with the Raw footage.
They make proxies and set the Dropbox as the proxy location.
Then others can work on proxies only with no real drawbacks (apart from resolution, but ProRes Proxy, for example, looks great).
@@timvs you are generous to share in such detail - thank you! is there a reason you chose cloud over NAS?
@@coreyhendrickson
No problem.
With your NAS v Cloud question:
The main reason BlackMagic Cloud works for me is because each user keeps their Source Media LOCALLY.
The *project* is kept in the cloud on BlackMagic's servers, but actual *media* does NOT have to stream from a remote server, you already have it on or physically attached to your editing computer.
The first principle of this working in a multi-user set-up is that each user needs EXACTLY the SAME media so that the SHARED PROJECT works for everyone.
The easiest way to achieve this duplicated source media is with a service that sync's a every user's local storage folder - and this is exactly what DropBox does - so it's the easiest way to have matching LOCAL storage with another user.
A NAS is storage that is not local to you (unless you are the owner of the physical NAS drive).
If a remote user is linking to a NAS via the internet, then they are now streaming footage for their edit over the 'net (rather than from a local drive) and that slows things down - exactly what I (personally) don't want with my multi camera editing.
So a NAS would only be useful if it was a source for syncing my local drive with another user's local drive.
And we have DropBox so why bother with a NAS?
Does that make sense?
I honestly loved the rawness of this lol You are a god amongst men with Resolve and seeing you tinker and struggle made me feel better :D
this is so exciting to me. i can't wait for the full release version. so many things will be so much easier for me and the people i colab with.
Hej Casey: Big Thank you for not just talking about the feature, but actually trying it out! Helps a lot to understand the tools. Also pretty well edited, as you can see and feel how it goes. Great video.
Oh my God! I love you're vids. I've learned sooooo much, but watching you two work this out has been the highlight of my week 🤣🤣
😂😂😂 some great laugh out loud moments in there. Great duo haha
thanks to do this so natural and real! like this we can see the things that happens to everyone hahah
@Casey Faris Can you make a more up to date and researched version of the Cloud setup?
Your videos always get me into such a good mood, Casey!
I am so learning everything about DaVinci 18 from you!!!!! Thank you for everything you do I needed and your are are there giving me exactly what I needed! 🙏🏽
What about the network? Is there any tutorial out there showing how to use it on a network? Or should i select cloud when the 2 pc's are on the local network?
Yeah just use it over the cloud. Thats what we do and it works great. You can do a local network thing, but it's a ton of work to set up. Cloud is super easy
@@CaseyFaris Yeah ive just come to realise this lol, tried setting up 2 pc's as me and my brother work on projects together and it's a nightmare. Gonna give cloud a shot! thanks Casey!!
Bravo! This tutorial was a true reality show. Loved every frame.
What would happen if I for example have some thrid-party add-ons (like let's say XX Brand Noise Remover) but the other user doesnt?
love the sound of that keyboard... :)
Cool video. Thanks
Hilarious! I’m already a big fan of you. This video made my day. I love it 😍
Very cool addition to the solution. awesome ending BTW
The new „Project Library“ sounds so much less intimidating then “DATABASE” 😂
Very entertaining video as always! 🔥
What about plugins? Will all collaborators have access to the plugins that are used in the project, as far as being able to edit parameters, make changes, add plugins, etc? I can't find the answer to this anywhere on the web.
When we send an email for collaboration using the Blackmagic Cloud option, is there a chance that the software activation key could get leaked while working with collabrator?
Please let me know.....😢😢
Excellent - so much power in Resolve 18 and we all will have the same struggles as you guys since some of this is not immediately intuitive - besides real men do not need to read the manuals. :). I have found you learn by watching or having examples. Hence UA-cam Videos. :). Good job showing the real struggles to get it right and working.
Logically it’s impossible for two or more people to edit on one timeline, that would cause all worlds of hurt, since on edit might split and move two clips while someone else moves that clip to another space and trim it - so locking a timeline is logical.
Where this collab tool is powerfull is with cross disipline collabs, so one person is editing on one timeline, another is editing on another timeline/segment (not sure if this is possible now, but it should work), while another person is grading, since grading is actually not changing the original clip, grading just adds «commands» to a clip, a receipe for how to alter the pixel values at render time, and another could work on sound - so several people working on different aspects of a project is what this is for. Of course, you would never work on editing a timeline while someone else adds audio effects, since clip position and sound effect needs to match, but editing/mastering the audio tracks (like compressor, eq, effects etc) doesn’t alter the audio clips, and is not dependent on knowing where in the timeline they are, and same with color grade, it’s not dependent on video clip position in timeline is.
Same thing with fusion, making a fusion clip is independent on where on the timeline the clip is, so an editor might move it around while someone is adding text effects to a clip and it should not cause problems.
But how can I work on a project locally (because its faster) and then when its time to color it, send a link to someone for them to have the "cloud version" of it? You know what im sayin?
More. Do more of these. Cos this is what we all do at home. In fact, do it live, and let everyone weigh in on chat. More. Do more. Please.
So, do both parties have to have the footage, or is it only necessary for one of them? Either way this looks awesome!
Both of them!
And prey tell how does one get the Video Files and project to some one else? Do you have to do an (Export Project Archive) thru Drop Box or Google Drive?
@@HoundDogMech I read that it automatically generates proxy files and links them through dropbox.
In this case, they could both share the same network storage in the building. If they were "across state lines", they would set up a shared DropBox folder (online) and point their copies of Resolve to their own respective DropBox local folders. Blackmagic Cloud syncs the project, it does not sync the media.
@@gregh99 To be clear, with DR Cloud and DropBox we can share and edit a project remotely? I won't need any other specific hardware, other than a pc on the other end?
You guys are great together.👍🏾good information
Thoroughly enjoyed this video.
I recently purchased a Blackmagic speed editor and got a serial key for Davinci Resolve Studio 17, would i be able to get a free upgrade to Davince Resolve Studio 18?
Yup
Love it. Thanks for taking the time .. both to you and Sam! --chris
Thank you for a great video tutorial. Just wondering... I don't need to, nor want collaboration. With that said, what are the advantages, if any, of signing up for the Blackmagic Cloud?
So, like I am completely new to DeVinci Resolve. That is because my Shotcut kept crashing on me and I wanted to see if I had better luck with Resolve. I'm not that savvy with computers to begin with so maybe it is my comp, who the heck knows. Glad I found you guys. :)
That was awesome. Did both of you have the same path to the media locally? I was not clear on how the media got shared. Was it in the cloud? Local network server shared disk? We do collab here using a mac mini as the DB server and a NAS for shared media. This cloud dealio is innnerestink tho :)
Yeah we have a nas. So media was shared.
Recently subbed to the cloud server for better collaboration and workflow but I get the amber "I" icon saying incompatible. It appears my DR version isn't up to par. Even though it is v18, I think it still has to be the latest one to work. I need to upgrade to test that out
Do you need the Cloud Pod or any subscription to do this across the internet? How's the footage being received on the other end? You all have a NAS?
When you are dragging media into the cloud, where are you dragging it from? I can't figure out how to get media in there that is usable without the drive being plugged in. Helpppp pleeeeease
Dang and this thing is FREE, think I might just buy it to support them for all the free they have given us over the years. Kudos to these guys and you Casey for providing so much help and support to their software.
Where does the data get saved to from day to day in the cloud or hard drive from computer
Is the activation key for the software safe in such collaborations, or is there a risk of it being leaked?
PLEASE GUIDE ME….😢
Having set up and used the local project database server for some projects now I can say it's invaluable once you have multiple people on the same project. It's not that hard to use but if you have a large network, aka more than one subnet, it quickly becomes cumbersome to manage. Not sure why but in 17 they wrote the database code to not be allowed to go across subnets by default. Had to have a super nerd friend do some crazy code editing to fix that.
They did update the project server with Resolve 18 but for $5 per project database, and you don't have to manage that internally, it's a no brainer to go with the Blackmagic managed cloud solution. That also means you can work anywhere instead of just on site where the server is. At least without network VPN trickery. As long as you have a local copy of the source files. We use a NAS on site so content is central for editors.
You added the comment in the video but there's basically two ways to work with shared projects. One is simply the project is shared and up to date without any version conflicts. Person A works on something, closes the project, person B picks up where A left off. That alone, without the potential for version conflicts (like with Drive or Dropbox timeline sharing) is great. A second person can open the same project at the same time but in read only mode.
The next step is what you found part way through, multiple user collaboration. Now you both can have the same project open at the same time, you just can't edit the same timeline at the same time. One can edit, while another colors the same timeline, but otherwise you're on different timelines to be most effective. Or different tabs, one starts a rough edit while another works on Fusion graphics, ingests and organizes media, stuff like that.
Ideally you would break things down further than one timeline. Person A works on an intro, B works on an interview, C works on B roll, stuff like that. Now you are all in the same project at the same time, but without competing for who is controlling timelines. For a short video, or a simple edit, that may not make sense. But for a large show with lots of parts, then it's amazing.
does the new project server still only work with the same subnet?
@@MoTheFcker Honestly I don't know. They make that feature for big production houses that need the security of having everything local. Big companies may not allow any cloud syncing to help with corporate theft. I don't have to worry about that, ha ha. Testing the cloud feature to not need the local project server anymore.
If you know how to edit PostGre SQL databases, then you can edit the permissions and have project server work across an entire network with multiple subnets. I watched my buddy make it work and I got very lost very fast lol. But if you know that stuff, it's probably not that hard.
Hey Casey, I'm seeking a tutorial on how to manage media in general. I have tons of raw video clips, PNGs, sound effects, audio tracks, etc. For each project, I usually place them all in one folder but then I find myself reusing elements in other projects here and there. Once I move all these folders to my backup sever, all my links become a mess. What's the best way to organize digital data in Windows/MAC folders as well as Davinci Resolve?
Casey, could you do a tutorial on how to set up file sharing for the cloud? I haven't found a tutorial on that yet.
in my opinion Davinci was already the best and they just keep getting better... AND IT'S FREE 🤯
exactly
So great for Remote teams. I'm all over this.
do you know how to move a project from the cloud to a local library to work offline then move it back to the cloud and merge it with the original?
amazing video! thanks :)
How are you setup? both of you have to have the cloud pod or only one? If there are another editor in other country have to have another cloud pod? gracias!!!
Where is the media accessed from?
Hello, Casey I need help trying to use the cloud collaboration with my brother but each time one of us edits a video the other user tries to refresh’s it but it’s shows “Media Offline” and can’t access it?
Thanks! Very useful. First real life impression.
I like that collab is designed for editor doing edits, while the sound and color grading get done at the same time. Which makes sense in a way, you wouldn't need your colorist to muck around with the timeline, just like you wouldn't need your sound expert doing fusion work...
Hey ! How does it handle plugins (FilmConvert, Dehancer, Scatter, etc) or LUTs that are not present on each collaborating machine ?
Any way to preview a grade made by the colorist with those tools if they are not installed in the editor’s Resolve app for example ?
Thanks !
How does it handle media?
I assume it's not uploading and storing the media in the cloud.
Do you each have to have the same media and relinked?
Or does cloud upload proxies?
Though. But do the files we drag to the bin go to the Blackmagic cloud?
Can this work between my desktop and laptop? I do a lot of editing between both systems for a client and I'd love to be able to not have to export my project each and every time I switch systems. So does the cloud work between multiple systems on the same account?
That's what I'd like to know as well!
@@eriolarda it does! I can create a project on the cloud and edit on laptop or desktop
@@jeremypope-levison721 do you use identical pathnames? or are your paths different on the two machines?
@@eriolarda two separate machines. the way cloud works is if you create a database in the cloud and log-in on two machines, you can access it on both. the cloud is the local database that can be accessed
Anyone can tell me why i try to invite a collaborator i have this message? share project libray failed. What should i do?
Cool feature and video. Anyone know if someone has an existing project stored locally - can they make that a cloud project and invite others to collaborate on it? Or does it only work for a new project created in the cloud?
that was a fun way to learn
is the original media also shared & synced automatically?
I think the big difference between what was done here, and what they did in the demo is the two of you used mirrored content in two locations, and they use a server with a shared single content source. With mirrored content I believe one person would have to be the project owner/manager and the other are limited collaborators in order to decide who has the right to alter and remove things from the project, because otherwise it could lead to accidental file mismatches or worse remote project hijackers.
Does this work if only one person has the rushes? Or do both people involved need the media?
@@mattrobinson-filmmaker3209 I'm probably not the best person to answer this question as I've not shifted to 18 yet.
Can you please make an recent update video on it?
This probably sounds foolish , but does both editors need the exact same footage on drives to access everything. ? Or can one have it edit in cloud .. & it will be there for next editor
where wa stored video files? in cloud or on a Nas?
NAS
Is it uploading/downloading media files to/from the cloud or only xml data?
is this a feature in the free version to??
What if you save after each edit then the other refreshes. Would they then have control? When it was single user, it would work when you saved. So I wonder if it would work the same way with multi user collab?
Hi casey, what is different with Adobe Creative Cloud? i think cloud and collaboration look like adobe buseness way
Adobe is on it's way out. The subscription model versus the 299 of Resolve Studio. Resolve has everything and now also the collaboration tool. The only thing in my mind Adobe is still good for for video pros is motion graphics, so After Effects.
Can this kind of collaboration happen between someone using the studio and another using the free version?
Yes
Hey, im from Argentina, this feature is not active for my country yet, but i have a question since i recorded a documentary (tons and tons of GB of material). The question is: if my partner has a copy of all the files in his hard disk, can he "link" the media? or is a MUST to have all the files in the cloud? thanks and suscribed!
This was surprisingly hilarious
Thanks! That was great to see. It's awesome and great it's also available in the free version. It might be also great for a quick feedback process:Just showing client or collaboration partner how a certain grade would look like and he/she can instantly feedback to you from a remote place or perhaps give it a try himself. Also great for training purposes? You as a teacher can watch what the student is doing and intervene like a "driving instructor". I imagine it can speed up things a lot. Will be nevertheless waiting a bit for a version when it's a little "less beta".
I bought a new notebook recently, with Windows 11 installed. Microsoft interoduced a facility, Windows Subsystem for Linux - WSL - to allow users to run ext-based Linux distibutions under Windows. On Windows 11, thi feature is enhanced and I can nor wun graphics apoplications too. Not only that, but if I unstall an application on Linux, it can appear in the Windows menus and runs on the Windows desktop.
The big question, how well does the Linux version of daVinci Resolve work in this environment?
are you both connected to the same shared drive?.. is that how the project found the media immediately? great video!!
Yup. Sry forgot to mention that
Is the COLOW avaiable to FREE Davinci 18 or just studio 18? next question would this be good for TEACHING some one to edit or is it for 2 experienced editors to work on different fazes of a project like coloring etc?
I learned a lot. Thanks!
Does anyone know if you can render a project on one pc during working on it on a another pc? If not, I will try
thank you! very interesting and entertaining!
Thank you, this was funny 😄 is the same way I approach a new tool, but than go to the user manual 🙌
When they say "a library is $5" does it mean it's a database with unlimited projects? So all I need is one?
Yup, it’s just like a database. So most likely just one unless you want to limit users access or something.
@@CaseyFaris Nice. I'm working with a couple of kids who do the "rough cuts" and sometimes I want to correct it, Add to it - And now I need to upload the project and media to cloud, download it to me, Make the changes, Do some color corrections, upload it again, Then they download it again... You get the point.
there will be many of updates for this feature....
What I kinda want to know is how you can send an edit to someone for coloring with proxies (like with the Cloud Store storage with proxies auto-generated). Can they grade on the proxies instead of having to download the originals? Would it be hard to grade since they wouldn't be the data-rich files? The grades would probably obviously copy over to the originals when re-linked, but... idk... that's my main question.
This will be great as a teaching tool for your patreons etc.
This is surprisingly helpful. And funny
The fact that this is free is reason enough to move, with Adobe I need an extra subscription plan that's only available for annual payment
My primary concern would be sitting all my media up in their cloud. I would rather copy all my media files to my collaborators via some other means (email, Google Drive, or just mailing a hard drive), store those files directly on MY OWN computer, then just have the project file (the data about the edits made) up on their cloud. That way I have immediate access to my files, no third party ever sees my files, and only the small amount of metadata about the edits has to go back and forth over the internet.
Please see if this is possible. Thanks.
Your media does not sit in their cloud. You can use any means like google drive, Dropbox, we transfer etc to send your media and all your collaborator has to do is to copy the files locally to his system and then relink them. Media is not in the cloud
Thats a great new feature! Does it cost anything extra? For example the use of Blackmagic Cloud?
5 usd per project
@@MoTheFcker per project? dang. thought it was a monthly flat fee :/ Well, at least you don't have to use the DR cloud for that 👍🏼
Literally asked a second time: Casey why don't U answer questions:
Is the CLOUD available to FREE Davinci 18 or just studio 18? next question would this be good for TEACHING some one to edit or is it for 2 experienced editors to work on different fazes of a project like coloring etc? Also can U mix FREE and STUDIO in Cloud Colegration?
Is your CL course going to be updated for this?
where is the project actually located?
you guys are entertaining. You had me laughing as this is actly the way I figure things out. Just go for it. lol
so just so Im clear the person helping edit a video in the cloud doesn't need to have the files on there computer or how do you setup that part
No they do. You have to sync the files somehow with google drive or dropbox or duplicating hdds or something
@@CaseyFaris so if I send them the proxy files would that work
9 months on, you're probably a guru on the cloud collaboration lol I see you guys discovered that the collaboration can happen using the free version of DR. So my question is, can one editor with the free version gain access to the timeline of the other editor with the Studio version in order to do some edits that are only limited to the Studio version? If that's not possible, then it forces both editors to have the studio version right? 🤔
Yep you can, if there are studio features, they will be disabled or watermarked on the free system
@@CaseyFaris Awesome! Thanks Casey. One final thing, not sure if you mentioned it in your video here, but for Sam to be able to edit stuff on the same timeline, did he have to have the source files(original media) on his own system for it to work or was he just able to remotely edit on the timeline based on the source files being available at your end concurrently?
I am wondering how easy the collaboration process would be if it so happens another collaborator has to have the original source media before being able to edit simultaneously (which is what I'm thinking might be the case). ... if the files are huge (say 3TB), it means one has to find a way to transfer those huge files over to the collaborator first right? HOPE my question makes sense :)
You guys are hilarious. I think the idea is only one editor has read and write access on a timeline in the edit page at a time.
Nicely done, gentlemen 👌😂👍
Lol I love this. Great "crash course" !! I'll give a little grace to BM - it IS technically beta.
How much is it to use. I know davinci resolve is free and studio is around 300, but I saw that you have to pay five bucks a month I believe per project you create in the cloud. Is that correct? Is there a better solution to that.
It’s not per project, it’s per library. That is like your folder of projects. You can have tons of projects in one library. Like you can have 10 people collabing on 100 projects for 5dollars total per month.
@@CaseyFaris ah okay I see what you mean. That makes sense. Thank you for responding so quickly. Also loved the video. You two made it feel more realistic haha
Good tutorial, but one detail is missing: how do you unsubscribe?
Please show new DR 18 features.
With the free version!!! 🤯