Besides the Autobahn and the Bonneville Salt Flats in Utah, how many places are there where you have the option of driving over 100 mph? How many speeding tickets and reckless driving charges are you willing to rack up? Here in the US, the highest speed limit is 85 mph (the Texas Highway 130 toll road), and it has been over 20 years since the Montanabahn ended. Just about any car you see on the road today has enough horsepower to go 85 mph, even an old Buick, an old minivan, or a low-end Kia. The Malaise Era Chevettes that shook at speeds over 55 mph, the Brougham land yachts with the big V8 engines that put out only 120 hp, and the Yugos with the 20-second 0-60 times are long gone. Back in 1991, there was still a national 65 mph speed limit and thus even less reason to drive over 100 mph. Any car other than the very slowest Malaise Era beaters had the horsepower for 65 mph. Oh, and if you still wanted a fast and sporty car back in 1991, there were much cheaper choices available than the BMW 850i available. There were Firebirds, Trans Ams, Camaros, Mustangs, Acuras, Lexuses, Supras, Nissan Z-cars, and Honda Preludes. All of these cars were not only cheaper to buy but to maintain as well.
@Taylor Lemoine No. What i understand is: you can take the steering wheel and jerk it quickly leftrightleftright and the wheels will follow your input, but the suspension is so soft for a luxurious purpose, the movement will rock the car left and right in a wacko way.
I saw 1 guy driving this every day on my daily commute like 10yrs ago. I always wanted to have one of these, I don't care about 300hp or whatnot, I love how it looks!
I fucking died cuz a frz was trying to play that game today on my way to work literaly stayed in 4th and he was barely inching on me till we got to 90 i was in the power band and boi do you hit 120mph quick where he basically is top speed i still have a 1:1 5th to go striaght to 150mph. a 3.0l v8 4dr executive saloon should not be able to just keep up with a 2dr "sports" car giving its all i almost weigh 4k lbs for crying out loud
@Gerald F it depends most free ways are 65 some 75 and some states have 85 now but california its not s felony unless you go over 130mph other wise just a normal ticket so doing 80 in a 65 is same thing
@Gerald F As an American, how fast do you normally drive on there? Edit: oh yeah, btw - that was the best part of this vid. That's a whole different kind of racing. Hah
@Gerald F Did 260 km/h in my friend's R8 last time I was in Germany, outside of Munich. The scary part of this is when somebody in front of you doing 130 in the right lane decides they want to want to pull into the left lane and do 150.
I think the look of the car has an appearance that matches what it can do. It looks reserved while still communicating that it could very calmly whoop your ass.
@@X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X I know. I thought about putting in parentheses or an asterisk or something on my comment to mention how the new vehicles are straying.
You can't be angry looking all the time like new cars for long before it becomes a tired joke. These older snobby and arrogant looking cars keep their reserved yet dangerous look fresh for decades.
V12s from similar cars like the Jaguar and Benz were also not rockets like people expect them to be. I believe the purpose at the time of having 12 cylinders was not so much for 0-60 times and racing but luxurious silkiness, effortless and graceful response that makes you feel like a king being at the helm of something truly exclusive, a domesticated beast.
Gearbox and lack of grip kills the 0-60. The Merc s600 had more than 400 hp back in early 90s. Do a kickdown on the autobahn and you will sail past most modern cars (in a 30 year old car)... Btw the 850 csi (manual gear) did 0-60 in 5.7 sec - not bad when you consider the weight and technology at the time.
@@LIOX223C Holy mackerel, you're right! My memory was _certain_ it was the 850i. I must have been conflating it with the similar layout of the "If a car company can have a soul..." advertisement for the 850i.
"At two in the morning, with a CD player filled with nothing but Dream Theater." For some of us, this is as close as reality in words you can get, amazing
Rok Gok the engine of the McLaren F1, aswell as a lot of Rolls Royces and 7 series share the same block as the S70 5.6 Litre V12 from the BMW 850csi, it’s a fact.
As a Mk3 Supra owner, a big fan of classic Sonic the Hedgehog, and a huge Dream Theater fan, yeah... this video totally worked for me too. Shame finding one of these 850's with a manual is such a difficult task, they're really cool in person.
Finally a car I actually owned. When I was a young college graduate I thought to myself, I need a car that has more than 6 cylinders and doesn't make one feel like falling asleep at the sight of it (My beige 98 Camry) so after little to no research I found an 850 for sale at a very small price tag and thought that would be a good idea. It was a great car and it performed well but... every year something would break. The old 90's electronics, and this thing was packed full of them, lead to sensor after sensor after sensor needing to be changed. Was never helped by the fact that it had 2 of everything. But like you said about it being a highway cruiser, I have never had a more comfortable ride on the highway. I also constantly forgot the dash was reading miles and not km/h and would find myself wondering why everyone was going so slow that day.
I can't believe I just discovered this channel this month. I'm sorry I wasn't there for the ride. Your channel is amazing. Keep up the great work. Totally a new devoted fan.
ArthurAlcantara they will say it is for weight saving, but when you have a 2+ tonne big and expensive luxury cruiser a heavier, better revving and more powerful engine makes more sense than ”weight saving”
@@antonioakiki3716 I think that If it was meant to cruise the Autobahn with long gearing I doubt the engine needed a very high redline just better low end torque, hence the single cam instead of something like the trick double vanos that arguably wasn't the most reliable thing. And considering all the doubled components calling the engine design lazy without thinking about what It was supposed to do is by itself a lazy thing to do.
>"cause I'm already in 4th gear and there are only 4 gears. I'm not gonna shift down!" Laughed quite a bit there. The E31 is just glorious and just got such a great timeless design.
I've always loved this beautiful car, BUT unfortunately, it sufferS TERRIBLE electrics! it's a RAT NEST of electric & electronics TROUBLES! :( Horribly expensive to repair, IF it could be repaired at all! 'there was the fact that it was expensive and complex to repair and maintain. Ask a BMW technician about the 850i sometime. They’ll speak with deep regret in their voice, like the car was their White Whale. “I almost fixed one once,” they’ll say between long drags of a cigarette as they look mysteriously off into the distance, “but the son of a bitch got me in the end.”'
@@neon-kitty2281 I tell you why. Same reason why the honey bee goes to that predator flower to suck on the nectar and dies there. Same reason why many men will get married to a whore or prostitute, knowing that she is all after money but also they know she makes mind-blowing sex or bjobs. There is your answer.
A random swede plays Speaking from an automotive technician’s viewpoint I’d rather have a sister in the whorehouse than own one of the bastards. Stupid engineering, piss poor reliability and nothing so spectacular about them to justify putting up with shitty reliability.
I avoid them too. But my E36 325is is probably the best looking, most fun car I've had so far. I never understood why BMW called itself the ultimate driving machine until I owned one.
@@malachilatroy I can't speak for all of them but mine definitely isn't. I've saved a ton of money fixing it myself and it is the best looking and best sounding car I've owned. Despite that, I can't justify recommending a BMW to anyone who isn't either independently wealthy or mechanically inclined. Fun yes, will bury you yes. So are BMWs worth it? I wouldn't say so, and I own one.
thank you for this comment. i was singing it in my head going thats a video game i own and have played a lot! but i cant remember what the hell it is... then now i know its green hill zone!!
The 12 cylinder GTs, Ferrari aside, was a small club of BMW, Mercedes and Jaguar and all of those cars were quirky, even the SL600. But, it was the ultimate status symbol of it's time.
@@DiegoRuiz1991 What part of the comment was a joke? I was just saying that the world record cannonball car is a CL, but it isn't a CL600 or a CL65, it's a CL55.
I while searching for my first car to buy when I was 17. I found one of these on craigslist for only $3k it had 160k miles, and an average 160k mile BMW interior I knew it would be a horrible idea, and that I shouldn't do it butttt I really wanted it like a 15 year old boy really wants to see Susie's nutter butter. I still think about that car every now and again wondering if I could have made that v12 make it to 200k or not or how long I could I go before I get arrested for doing 150mph pulls on the highway. I should've bought it, even if it would blown up in half a year. Only reason I didn't buy it was "I NEED A MANUAL". My parents eventually forced me to get a 02 Buick regal LS it wasn't even the fast supercharged GS my inner dude bro died a bit when they handed me those keys. WHY DONT YOU LOVE ME SUSIE
Idk consider yourself lucky you didnt buy it, the insurance would have been outrageously, not to mention premium fuel prices, and chances are you wouldnt have the money to properly maintain it so you would have destroyed whats becoming a rare collectible car. Also for 3k no way you could have even made it home, it must have had so many issues at that price it would be a money pit for someone so young. Sad your parents wouldnt let you get manual though, thats alright the buick will make a great daily and you can get a manual sports car later.
It takes a lot to blow up the V12 and make it unreliable for starters it’s N/A means more reliable also it’s based off 6 cylinder engines so even better.. it would’ve been fine and pus if it made it to 160k it means it can probably do 200k
@@aidenp5768 the engine isn't the problem it's the early 90s electronics. Dashboard lights for days. Not to mention the inevitable timing chain that would need to be replaced. I can't even guess how much that would cost. Damn near the value of the car I bet
The 850i one of the few BMW I have ever wanted to own besides the M1 (the first one the E26) I was surprised you didn't mention the $10,000 factory wheel package option, the only option for the car. An M8 variant would have been a site to be hold (I would be interested in the project goals for the M8 they would have tried to achieve. )
BMW 850i, for the company exec who rawdogs his secretary but when goes back to his wife he leaves a note for her early in the morning with a 100 dollar bill attached to "forget about it and dont talk about it during work".
Yesterday I saw the new BMW 8 Series in Brown. It looked like a larger 6 series coupe. There's something about the old 8 Series that the new 8 series doesn't have...I dunno why I feel like that tho.
The old 8 feels special because its unique in the bimmer line up, there isnt any 6 serie during 90-99 when the old 8serie is sold. now however the 8 and the 6 are being sold at the same time, so the new 8serie doesnt feel the same way.
As an expat Australian, I understand. BMWs are extremely overpriced in Australia so when an Australian moves to America and sees BMWs at the prices they are (especially the used ones) they’re good value.
As an Australian, the car market in Australia is pathetic. Which is one of the reasons why cars are so much expensive here compared to the states. It was only 2016 when we officially started getting Mustangs, and only recently Cameros. The Australian carmarket is small compared to the states.
Toyota Supra JZA70 and BMW 850i had similar looks in the early 90s, no hates given. New Toyota Supra and BMW Z4 share platform, every Supra weeaboos got mad.
I remember the first time I saw a BMW 840. At the time, no one put 4-piston calipers on their cars unless you were Porsche or Ferrari. This car had them. It was then I realized that BMW was indeed the greatest car company ever... until the Bangle era and then I said goodbye. Favorite BMW's have to be the E38 7-series, this 8-series, and the Z8.
Fwiw nissan and Ford had 4 pot brakes on their sport's cars in the 80s, my 6cyl skyline made more power and torque than this while weighing less with better handling. I'd race one into 3 figures gladly, would be waiting a while for it though.
When I was stationed in Germany the "Lemon Lot" on Ramstein AFB featured 3 of these at any one time for $3-5k...I wanted one ever since C. Van Tune wrote a comparison of the 1994 Z/28 and the 850CSI in Motor Trend...
This is one of those cars that if I had the opportunity to get one I wouldn’t think twice on it. I know it’ll be a nightmare in repairs but it’s one of the most beautiful cars ever built from the Germans to me. I used to own a 525i e34 and although it was great a two door coupe from this era with a V12 in the front is just what it’s all about.
I had a 1991 750IL. Yes the V12 was not fast off the line but would cruise all day at 125 MPH without a sweat. It was ahead of its time which is why they had so many electronic issues. The M70 V12 was a beautiful motor!!!
I remember a mechanic saying it was pricey to maintain one of these properly so there are probably alot of these that need maintenance I personally feel it would be fun as I grew up with a 325 and this motor seems like two of those
@SplatoonTwo I respectfully disagree. Their music is technical and exotic. Many songs nowadays sound uncannily similar to one another. Dream Theater challenges the preconceived notions of what music should be, and pushes the boundaries in a way that flows with effortless complexity. Their mastery over their craft allows a story to be told without the use of lyrics, and when lyrics are added, a deep and fundamental message is conveyed that can resonate with most people. I would like to understand your reasoning behind your opinion, I'm sure you have a good reason not to like them.
@@NITESCIENTIST Dream Theater is the best progressive metal band out there bar none. If you can't respect their immense musical talent, then you can't respect music. It's that easy.
Another one of my dream cars . I remember 5 years ago when you could get one for half of what they are now..lol like a lot of the cars I liked and hoped to get rather than depreciate they appreciated
Ultimately the engine was done in by the heads. There was no way to get the engine to rev due to poor exhaust port configuration. The exhaust ports on every cylinder are pinched by a cooling jacket and then a quick 90-degree bend. Forced induction helps, assuming you can integrate it with the drive-by-wire throttle. There was an M8 prototype produced (one) that had completely redesigned heads with DOHC and mild headers, but no parts or design data are available. Given the problems with airflow, the rest of the design decisions were made with an eye toward tall gearing and 140 mph cruising on the autobahn rather than 0-60 times. I had one for about six years and enjoyed playing around with it, but it's really not a car for American driving unless you have to take I-80 across Nevada at least once a week.
GOD DAMMIT you got me so pumped up when you mentioned driving at 2:00 AM with Dream Theater as a background because this is exactly the kind of mood I would want to experience off a car.
BMW literally joined two V-6 engines for this car. Unfortunately, this model is prone to oil leaks. One advantage, these cars don't have the VANOS system.
It has many gaskets and they were made of paper at the time. If you replace all of those with better sealing modern products it will solve that problem.
OMG I had a BMW with one of those little flashlights! It was one of those many small features that felt like it was indicative of luxury. Also, the fact that the car radio gave me information like outside temperature and average fuel economy.
This is the kind of car you see on every single synthwave album cover
Dont forget the Countach, the Testa and sometimes the F40 :p
haha just like deloreans
@@RustyJamesify 911 turbo
Or the Delorean
i thought that was the Gen3 Trans Am
1991 BMW 850i: If "Knight Rider" was shot in Germany, this would be KITT.
This would be pretty dang cool as KITT, actually. Someone should write Knight Rider alternate-timeline fan fic with different cars.
100%
I think you could be right. Only it would look better, Handle better & be a lot quieter thanks to that smooth V12 rather than the 1950s rough V8!
@@Otto-AutoPilot the Opel Calibra? too cheap.
This car was not made then. Knight rider 1982-86.
"It's made for passing someone who's already going 100 mph." Love this statement.
100mph aint even that fast. your average 2.0 diesel estate goes 150mph if traffic allows.
@@leviathan5207 eh, not really 150mph, but 120-130 isn't a problem
@@Lolwutfordawin one exception would be Passat B8 2.0 BiTDI 240hp , that has a top speed of 149 mph .
Besides the Autobahn and the Bonneville Salt Flats in Utah, how many places are there where you have the option of driving over 100 mph? How many speeding tickets and reckless driving charges are you willing to rack up?
Here in the US, the highest speed limit is 85 mph (the Texas Highway 130 toll road), and it has been over 20 years since the Montanabahn ended. Just about any car you see on the road today has enough horsepower to go 85 mph, even an old Buick, an old minivan, or a low-end Kia. The Malaise Era Chevettes that shook at speeds over 55 mph, the Brougham land yachts with the big V8 engines that put out only 120 hp, and the Yugos with the 20-second 0-60 times are long gone.
Back in 1991, there was still a national 65 mph speed limit and thus even less reason to drive over 100 mph. Any car other than the very slowest Malaise Era beaters had the horsepower for 65 mph.
Oh, and if you still wanted a fast and sporty car back in 1991, there were much cheaper choices available than the BMW 850i available. There were Firebirds, Trans Ams, Camaros, Mustangs, Acuras, Lexuses, Supras, Nissan Z-cars, and Honda Preludes. All of these cars were not only cheaper to buy but to maintain as well.
@@leviathan5207 are you sure youre not confusing mph with kph?
You know why he didnt have many issues with this car? He can actually afford to own it and not just to buy it.
you refer to Running Costs !
CL500 owners can't relate
They’re pretty reliable actually, based on the BMW M30 which is already super reliable, this thing just has 2 of them smashed into 2
"you can take the steering wheel and go HUGHUHHUGHUGHUG and the car with go hooUGHhooUGHhooUGH"
2:37
why on earth do i know exactly what he means
@Taylor Lemoine No. What i understand is: you can take the steering wheel and jerk it quickly leftrightleftright and the wheels will follow your input, but the suspension is so soft for a luxurious purpose, the movement will rock the car left and right in a wacko way.
@Taylor Lemoine I think it sounds more like Tim Allen, from the Home Improvement days.
@@maldnomyar Doing the lords work. Good on you.
the Bimmer forum voice had me rolling
Andrew Frastaci sounded like butthead from beavis and butthead
@@camerongoyette4778 lol I thought I was the only one who heard that sucker's voice 😂😂😂
ACKCHYUALLY
Cameron Goyette 4:29
Jesus. I just got to that part. I’m in awe.
The king of electrical nightmares. While being one of the coolest looking BMW’s ever made!
Welcome To The Madness I’d put an LS but only into the V8 this 12 banger too rare😩😩
Welcome To The Madness you are everywhere man.. Doug, Tyler, Donut :D
E36 BEAMERBOY I have considered something like this...even at the cost of the V12. The purist would revolt and try to storm the castle.
Grünkohlaktionär It’s good to know you support those guys too man!
Welcome To The Madness sure!
One of the sexiest BMW's ever made
Agreed
Nah. M1 all the way.
but bladed.......wheres the miata?
Indeed, thing is a beauty
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I saw 1 guy driving this every day on my daily commute like 10yrs ago. I always wanted to have one of these, I don't care about 300hp or whatnot, I love how it looks!
i know someone from my area ... all nice and clean .. he takes care of it .. a Silver one !
How deep into three figures do you wanna race? Best question ever on this channel?
I fucking died cuz a frz was trying to play that game today on my way to work literaly stayed in 4th and he was barely inching on me till we got to 90 i was in the power band and boi do you hit 120mph quick where he basically is top speed i still have a 1:1 5th to go striaght to 150mph. a 3.0l v8 4dr executive saloon should not be able to just keep up with a 2dr "sports" car giving its all i almost weigh 4k lbs for crying out loud
@Gerald F it depends most free ways are 65 some 75 and some states have 85 now but california its not s felony unless you go over 130mph other wise just a normal ticket so doing 80 in a 65 is same thing
@Gerald F As an American, how fast do you normally drive on there?
Edit: oh yeah, btw - that was the best part of this vid. That's a whole different kind of racing. Hah
@Gerald F Danke for the reply. Sounds like fun. stay safe ;]
@Gerald F Did 260 km/h in my friend's R8 last time I was in Germany, outside of Munich. The scary part of this is when somebody in front of you doing 130 in the right lane decides they want to want to pull into the left lane and do 150.
I think the look of the car has an appearance that matches what it can do. It looks reserved while still communicating that it could very calmly whoop your ass.
Something entirely lost on modern car design: They all look like they came to invade earth, where in reality they only invade a preschool parking lot.
Which IMO is what Aston Martin has been doing reasonably well for a decade and a half now. Understated power that's secure in itself.
@@kz1000ps
I feel like they really lost their track with their current lineup, especially the Vantage.
@@X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X I know. I thought about putting in parentheses or an asterisk or something on my comment to mention how the new vehicles are straying.
You can't be angry looking all the time like new cars for long before it becomes a tired joke. These older snobby and arrogant looking cars keep their reserved yet dangerous look fresh for decades.
V12s from similar cars like the Jaguar and Benz were also not rockets like people expect them to be. I believe the purpose at the time of having 12 cylinders was not so much for 0-60 times and racing but luxurious silkiness, effortless and graceful response that makes you feel like a king being at the helm of something truly exclusive, a domesticated beast.
B-Wulf domesticated beast = cow 🐄
@@SilverScarletSpider I was thinking more like grizzly or sleeping dragon but I guess its up to everyone's interpretation. x D
I think cow is a great interpretation. Just think of the FUCKTONS of high-quality leather that's in your F12berlinetta or Ghost.
Gearbox and lack of grip kills the 0-60. The Merc s600 had more than 400 hp back in early 90s. Do a kickdown on the autobahn and you will sail past most modern cars (in a 30 year old car)... Btw the 850 csi (manual gear) did 0-60 in 5.7 sec - not bad when you consider the weight and technology at the time.
Oh yeah, jaguar v12 was the exact same in terms of specs. 300 HP na while barely turning 5 grand.
I remember a magazine ad for the 850i: "Mr Vader, your car is ready."
ReverendTed that was the impala SS but I rather have this
@@LIOX223C Holy mackerel, you're right! My memory was _certain_ it was the 850i. I must have been conflating it with the similar layout of the "If a car company can have a soul..." advertisement for the 850i.
Darth Vader owned a Mitsubishi GTO.
Vader's bathroom looks like KITT's interior. Ask Michael.
It’s lord Vader
"At two in the morning, with a CD player filled with nothing but Dream Theater."
For some of us, this is as close as reality in words you can get, amazing
If that V12 is an F1 engine, my Subaru H6 is clearly a Porsche engine.
Rok Gok the engine of the McLaren F1, aswell as a lot of Rolls Royces and 7 series share the same block as the S70 5.6 Litre V12 from the BMW 850csi, it’s a fact.
Rok Gok svx, or legacy/outback??
@@JsliceQB1026 Legacy, my AWD is also RWD because it sends power to the rear, so pretty much a porsche.
@@marcwheels6718 The 4B1 engine all have the same engine block, everyone gets an EVO.
Yeah and my V10 triton might as well be one then lol
"Long highway drives at 2AM with nothing in the CD player but dream theater"
This is heaven.
I knoooooow that feeeeeeeeeel 🎵
Hell yes
Progressive Metal is the working mans synthwave
I just remembered this comment and I'm going in a 8+ hour drive in June but in an EX-L Accord. It's gonna be a metal heaven.
"You can take the steering wheel and go HAGAGAGAGA and the car will go HUEHUEUHUE"
gold
What does that even mean?
@@rohitrai2000 You can jank the wheel left to right as fast as you can, and the car will only slightly roll side to side
@@annadelsiena Ahhh, that is what I thought it was but was still confused. Thanks anyway.
@@rohitrai2000 I felt like the noises explained it perfectly!
@@Visuwyg Yeah, I instantly knew what he was talking about when he said that,but I can understand how that would confuse people all the same
A guy in my city has an 850CSi and I spot him every month or so. 6-speed manual V12? Hell yeah!
Thank him for servicing the vehicle in this day and age
Jeezus. As if the V12 850 isnt rare as it is, a 6 speed 850 is the ultimate 8 series.
Fonzie Ramirez its also a csi, so 400hp+
wouldnt happen to be in san diego cuz there is a gey or silver on here only seen it once
@@Malibus_Most_Wanted Nope, it's a black one in Dresden, Germany.
Green Hill Zone BGM, another product of 1991
John Noonan - glad I figured it out too, would have been up all nite🌙
Omg thanks for this. I was cracking my head trying to figure out why I know this tune by heart.
Takes me back. I preferred the Spring Yard Zone theme.
one of the mostbeautiful cars ever made
yeah mk3 supras are cool
@@IMugMuggers haha nice meme friend. totally original.
No
@@Slayer0941 Its a uglier supra mk3
Not even close...
Nice take on the Sonic Green Hill Zone music.
I was singing it in my head a dozen times over trying to figure out what part of my childhood was being reached! Thanks!
I knew I recognized it. I was like damn it this is from a video game I have played a lot, I know it.
He's no Smooth McGroove, but it'll do!
Trance88 took me forever to place it but I got there.
Trance88 His songs fuck with my head so much when I’m high.
"At two in the morning, with a CD player filled with nothing but Dream Theater."
This resonates with me. Dear God, I'm the target audience.
There are dozens of us!
Dozens with tens on the way! I just commented about the Dream Theater reference right before I saw yours haha.
just can't help myself
I'm feeling like I'm going out of my head
Uncanny, strange Deja Vu
I did this on the flat-desert highways of Saudi Arabia on a 1997 740il. I suppose I don't need to describe the feeling for you guys.
As a Mk3 Supra owner, a big fan of classic Sonic the Hedgehog, and a huge Dream Theater fan, yeah... this video totally worked for me too. Shame finding one of these 850's with a manual is such a difficult task, they're really cool in person.
Finally a car I actually owned. When I was a young college graduate I thought to myself, I need a car that has more than 6 cylinders and doesn't make one feel like falling asleep at the sight of it (My beige 98 Camry) so after little to no research I found an 850 for sale at a very small price tag and thought that would be a good idea. It was a great car and it performed well but... every year something would break. The old 90's electronics, and this thing was packed full of them, lead to sensor after sensor after sensor needing to be changed. Was never helped by the fact that it had 2 of everything. But like you said about it being a highway cruiser, I have never had a more comfortable ride on the highway. I also constantly forgot the dash was reading miles and not km/h and would find myself wondering why everyone was going so slow that day.
Kudos to Roman for honoring the new live action Sonic movie
I can't believe I just discovered this channel this month. I'm sorry I wasn't there for the ride. Your channel is amazing. Keep up the great work. Totally a new devoted fan.
I love how R* slapped the rear end from this thing onto their interpretation of Mitsubishi Galant in GTA IV. Genius!
Skøut also love the Evo/STi mashup in the Sultan “STD”
The Maibatsu Vincent, loved that car
when you got SOHC in a 4cyl its cost saving but when you got SOHC in V12 thats just lazy engine designers
Or even worse, mercedes went from the dohc m120 v12 to sohc m137 v12 with less power for the next gen s600. That is really shitty
Comparable to getting an OHV V8 in a sporstcar or an OHV V10
I bet there's a very good german engineerig reason behind it.
ArthurAlcantara they will say it is for weight saving, but when you have a 2+ tonne big and expensive luxury cruiser a heavier, better revving and more powerful engine makes more sense than ”weight saving”
@@antonioakiki3716 I think that If it was meant to cruise the Autobahn with long gearing I doubt the engine needed a very high redline just better low end torque, hence the single cam instead of something like the trick double vanos that arguably wasn't the most reliable thing. And considering all the doubled components calling the engine design lazy without thinking about what It was supposed to do is by itself a lazy thing to do.
>"cause I'm already in 4th gear and there are only 4 gears. I'm not gonna shift down!"
Laughed quite a bit there.
The E31 is just glorious and just got such a great timeless design.
I've always loved this beautiful car, BUT unfortunately, it sufferS TERRIBLE electrics! it's a RAT NEST of electric & electronics TROUBLES! :( Horribly expensive to repair, IF it could be repaired at all!
'there was the fact that it was expensive and complex to repair and maintain. Ask a BMW technician about the 850i sometime. They’ll speak with deep regret in their voice, like the car was their White Whale. “I almost fixed one once,” they’ll say between long drags of a cigarette as they look mysteriously off into the distance, “but the son of a bitch got me in the end.”'
As someone who has had to work on some shitty cars is my life I just laughed my ass off!
So it’s not true since the v12 is bullet proof , it’s just everything else that breaks
that is something ive always wondered, bmw have a reputation for being unreliable, yet people still buy them?
@@neon-kitty2281 I tell you why. Same reason why the honey bee goes to that predator flower to suck on the nectar and dies there. Same reason why many men will get married to a whore or prostitute, knowing that she is all after money but also they know she makes mind-blowing sex or bjobs. There is your answer.
A random swede plays Speaking from an automotive technician’s viewpoint I’d rather have a sister in the whorehouse than own one of the bastards. Stupid engineering, piss poor reliability and nothing so spectacular about them to justify putting up with shitty reliability.
Took me a minute to realize that the intro song was the fucking green hill zone theme from Sonic.
This is why you are one of my favorite channels ever
I avoid BMWs on principle, but this one is sooo sleek. I love the night bomber comparison.
dont i have a e34 430i 5sp it does 150mph wtf is all i have to say some of the best 4dr cars made
e39 was claimed as "Worlds best car" and for a reason: Quiet, comfy yet sporty and pretty fast. And that desing is still one of the best
I avoid them too. But my E36 325is is probably the best looking, most fun car I've had so far. I never understood why BMW called itself the ultimate driving machine until I owned one.
@@RevoltingSnakeman99 so are bmws worth it?
@@malachilatroy I can't speak for all of them but mine definitely isn't. I've saved a ton of money fixing it myself and it is the best looking and best sounding car I've owned. Despite that, I can't justify recommending a BMW to anyone who isn't either independently wealthy or mechanically inclined. Fun yes, will bury you yes. So are BMWs worth it? I wouldn't say so, and I own one.
I see you’re a sonic fan.
Most of Roman's songs r rcr lyrics over game music lol
Mr. Grimm Gaming 2.0 a lot of final fantasy too
Chevrolet Sonic Fanfiction
thank you for this comment. i was singing it in my head going thats a video game i own and have played a lot! but i cant remember what the hell it is... then now i know its green hill zone!!
It is 1:00AM on a Sunday, study for my finals or watch the new RCR?
well lets go
study weeb
Monday! 1AM on a Monday!
It released at 4am as an east coast channel. But why 4am?
Pohlio yeah idk. I think they live in Florida but I could be wrong.
Med student? Im watching this after my last test
9:55 "With a CD player filled with nothing but Dream Theater" Nice one.
The 12 cylinder GTs, Ferrari aside, was a small club of BMW, Mercedes and Jaguar and all of those cars were quirky, even the SL600. But, it was the ultimate status symbol of it's time.
If there was ever a stock cannonball car
It would be this
Meh no, cl600 m120
MyLonewolf25 You would not make it
@@thjn23 Why not CL65? Also the world record cannonball car is a Mercedes CL.
@@keon5779 That was the joke, moron.
@@DiegoRuiz1991 What part of the comment was a joke? I was just saying that the world record cannonball car is a CL, but it isn't a CL600 or a CL65, it's a CL55.
I while searching for my first car to buy when I was 17. I found one of these on craigslist for only $3k it had 160k miles, and an average 160k mile BMW interior I knew it would be a horrible idea, and that I shouldn't do it butttt I really wanted it like a 15 year old boy really wants to see Susie's nutter butter. I still think about that car every now and again wondering if I could have made that v12 make it to 200k or not or how long I could I go before I get arrested for doing 150mph pulls on the highway. I should've bought it, even if it would blown up in half a year. Only reason I didn't buy it was "I NEED A MANUAL". My parents eventually forced me to get a 02 Buick regal LS it wasn't even the fast supercharged GS my inner dude bro died a bit when they handed me those keys. WHY DONT YOU LOVE ME SUSIE
But hey some people get like a slow honda civic as forst car sp what u got now is pretty sweet or was idont know😂
Hahaha nice comment how old are you now btw ? (I'm 17 now so I'm about to learn the lesson of compromise ) 😅😅
Idk consider yourself lucky you didnt buy it, the insurance would have been outrageously, not to mention premium fuel prices, and chances are you wouldnt have the money to properly maintain it so you would have destroyed whats becoming a rare collectible car. Also for 3k no way you could have even made it home, it must have had so many issues at that price it would be a money pit for someone so young. Sad your parents wouldnt let you get manual though, thats alright the buick will make a great daily and you can get a manual sports car later.
It takes a lot to blow up the V12 and make it unreliable for starters it’s N/A means more reliable also it’s based off 6 cylinder engines so even better.. it would’ve been fine and pus if it made it to 160k it means it can probably do 200k
@@aidenp5768 the engine isn't the problem it's the early 90s electronics. Dashboard lights for days. Not to mention the inevitable timing chain that would need to be replaced. I can't even guess how much that would cost. Damn near the value of the car I bet
if this car had a snatch, i'd pound it like it owed me money
tony hopper If you owned this car, it WOULD owe you money.
The dream theater reference at the very end made me shed a tear.
"So... ACKTCHUALLY... I have an F1 engine"
I work at a garage, had one of these in the other week. Norweigian owners, wealthy. Had a aircon problem.
awesome story
@@markbryant4641 yeah i agree
5:07 1 ECU for each bank, not cylinder
More video game inspired tracks from the Roman, yes please!
This is the first I've heard of this car, it's absolutely beautiful.
Really happy to see the reviews on the road again and not the track. Regular reviews should be in a regular area..Not a track
If only BMW could produce cars this attractive today. Oh well.
I think they do. The new 8 series looks great in my opinion.
@@MassiveBig I saw one the other day. It caught my attention, but it didn't hold my attention like this or an early M3 would.
@@mustardstain9593 i know what you mean. I used to drive a 1977 530i and people who were bmw fans loved it.
@@MassiveBig And with good reason. Probably one of the best looking 5 series ever.
@@mustardstain9593 the E12? Hell yeah. It and - of all things - the E60 are my fave 5ers
Love the Roman in this one. Would actually buy an album of Sonic-covers
Green Hill Zone - Sonic The Hedgehog 1991 (Sega Mega Drive/Genesis)
"equivalent of wearing your submariner to the gym" lololll great car great review
The 850i one of the few BMW I have ever wanted to own besides the M1 (the first one the E26) I was surprised you didn't mention the $10,000 factory wheel package option, the only option for the car. An M8 variant would have been a site to be hold (I would be interested in the project goals for the M8 they would have tried to achieve. )
Anyone else jump on Craigslist right after just for shits and giggles?
I'd love to have an 850 but as a technician, I wouldn't dream of owning one.
Pretty much any of his videos have me opening a new tab for a quick search.
How much is it today bro
@@lafete6863 go fuckin google it for yourself lazy ass
Go with a 3 series. Little less fun, a lot less to maintain. NO M series unless you got a lot of money, that's what Gran Turismo is for.
I only know of this car because Eazy E had one.
The Godfather himself
Yeah a sick white one
Yeah, but didn't Will Smith drive one?
one of the few pictures with it hes got the gat
LL had one too.
Slap in a Turbo and some other stuff and enjoy your 1000+hp
We'll use overnight parts from Japan if we have to
which won't last 10,000 miles.
Reverend Al considering that the f1 has 600 hp none turbo , it could most likely make 1000hp with a supercharger np
Theres a 1300hp 850 on yt lol
Gearbox would explode. It's 4HP24
I'm an owner and this is the funniest, most honest overview of the E31 🤣🤣🤣 well done.
That HP has to be underrated.
It's the powerband. It doesn't have a lot of HP but the torque comes early and stays til redline.
Wow uploading at 4 am, I cant possibly, explain why I'm awake but this was worth it.
BMW 850i, for the company exec who rawdogs his secretary but when goes back to his wife he leaves a note for her early in the morning with a 100 dollar bill attached to "forget about it and dont talk about it during work".
@TheGreenpiston Of Course not, he would have owned a maybach
At the very least a Phaeton
Yesterday I saw the new BMW 8 Series in Brown. It looked like a larger 6 series coupe. There's something about the old 8 Series that the new 8 series doesn't have...I dunno why I feel like that tho.
The new one isn't sleek, perhaps?
Probably the lack of pop up headlights 😂
The old 8 feels special because its unique in the bimmer line up, there isnt any 6 serie during 90-99 when the old 8serie is sold.
now however the 8 and the 6 are being sold at the same time, so the new 8serie doesnt feel the same way.
ToyGTone same with most modern BMW’s I think
It has excess.
I'm not sure a BMW 850 V12 is a regular car
Regular luxury coupe 😬
It's in the regular price range...
I don’t know what they go for now but when I was a teenager back in the late 90s they were super cheap.
Wait long enough and it will be. Imagine torn upholstery and peeling clearcoat.
@@allencrider no, it will increase price
This is one of the most beautyful cars ever made in automotive history!!
epic v12 style, why is my bank account empty?
You were sent to the gulags... because you fell for the capitalist ways.
Enjoy your 290hp
It will only get emptier if you get one. Although it will be worth it
communist degenerate
good tunes, roman.
As an expat Australian, I understand. BMWs are extremely overpriced in Australia so when an Australian moves to America and sees BMWs at the prices they are (especially the used ones) they’re good value.
American cars are even more overpriced here, a C5 corvette goes for like 100k in Australia.
BMW RHD is not as big a deal as there are a lot of UKDM models.
As an Australian, the car market in Australia is pathetic. Which is one of the reasons why cars are so much expensive here compared to the states. It was only 2016 when we officially started getting Mustangs, and only recently Cameros. The Australian carmarket is small compared to the states.
Toyota Supra JZA70 and BMW 850i had similar looks in the early 90s, no hates given. New Toyota Supra and BMW Z4 share platform, every Supra weeaboos got mad.
Nurrahman Dwi Haryoso came here looking for that comment 😂
Because no one give a damn f back then, now everyone who will not even buy the car mad at the new supra
I remember the first time I saw a BMW 840. At the time, no one put 4-piston calipers on their cars unless you were Porsche or Ferrari. This car had them. It was then I realized that BMW was indeed the greatest car company ever... until the Bangle era and then I said goodbye. Favorite BMW's have to be the E38 7-series, this 8-series, and the Z8.
I owned 2 E30 3 series and an E38 7. Awesome cars, miss the Aluminum V8 in my 740i.
Fwiw nissan and Ford had 4 pot brakes on their sport's cars in the 80s, my 6cyl skyline made more power and torque than this while weighing less with better handling. I'd race one into 3 figures gladly, would be waiting a while for it though.
What's the "Bangle era" referring to?
I love the character voices that mr regular comes up with.
I didn't know they were produced in such little numbers! I never see them on the road, so that makes sense.
We had one guy who would come to our dealer we called evil Santa who had 2 of these. He had wild white hair, and was very rude.
When I was stationed in Germany the "Lemon Lot" on Ramstein AFB featured 3 of these at any one time for $3-5k...I wanted one ever since C. Van Tune wrote a comparison of the 1994 Z/28 and the 850CSI in Motor Trend...
No way! I never saw any unfortunately. Only a couple 90s SLs and our old Volvo S40.
This is one of those cars that if I had the opportunity to get one I wouldn’t think twice on it. I know it’ll be a nightmare in repairs but it’s one of the most beautiful cars ever built from the Germans to me. I used to own a 525i e34 and although it was great a two door coupe from this era with a V12 in the front is just what it’s all about.
Lovin' the Green Hill Zone cameo in Roman's intro :)
My favorite car is finally here?!
A lot of people's favorite car :)
I've been waiting for this moment
-> dream theater. Yeah I'm starting to like this guy and his references.
Hell yeah
This was something really special back in the day, the new one seems to be "just" an upgraded 6 series...
This video is part education, part entertainment, part Beavis and Butthead, but all genius. Thank you
One of the most beautiful cars ever made. Unfortunately, it has the reputation of being a pimp car here in Germany.
Chrysler 300C in the US
Do German pimps get their style on with lederhosen?
@@MyDailyUpload oh boy... We're not as stereotyped as you think... It's Bavaria and not Germany. :)
@@AdrianVonGames American pimps wear jeans and sit on Walmart mobility scooters with a shitty cheeseburger in their hand.
In the Netherlands it's the car for unreliable car traders and cannabis growers.
BMW design team saw a 1976 Aston Martin Lagonda and thought "How do you recon that looks like with our grille kidneys?"
And Aston Martin saw a mach one mustang and thought "how can we make this slower and more expensive"
God
This is what the SVX wanted to be.
I had a 1991 750IL. Yes the V12 was not fast off the line but would cruise all day at 125 MPH without a sweat. It was ahead of its time which is why they had so many electronic issues. The M70 V12 was a beautiful motor!!!
I remember a mechanic saying it was pricey to maintain one of these properly so there are probably alot of these that need maintenance I personally feel it would be fun as I grew up with a 325 and this motor seems like two of those
2:41 enjoy
Whooaa!!! A Dream Theater reference! I think this one of the best looking BMWs ever made.
Holy Dream Theater reference! One of my favorite bands that not many know about!
that band sucks!!
@SplatoonTwo I respectfully disagree. Their music is technical and exotic. Many songs nowadays sound uncannily similar to one another. Dream Theater challenges the preconceived notions of what music should be, and pushes the boundaries in a way that flows with effortless complexity. Their mastery over their craft allows a story to be told without the use of lyrics, and when lyrics are added, a deep and fundamental message is conveyed that can resonate with most people. I would like to understand your reasoning behind your opinion, I'm sure you have a good reason not to like them.
@@NITESCIENTIST
Dream Theater is the best progressive metal band out there bar none. If you can't respect their immense musical talent, then you can't respect music. It's that easy.
@@RevoltingSnakeman99 I completely agree with that statement.
Hugely talented group of musicians who make highly technical, skillful, virtuosic and yet mostly mediocre music in my opinion
Another one of my dream cars . I remember 5 years ago when you could get one for half of what they are now..lol like a lot of the cars I liked and hoped to get rather than depreciate they appreciated
Been a RCR fan for awhile now and somehow missed this video until now. It figures it'd be the one where you mentioned my favorite band Dream Theater
TIME TO HIT AUTOSCOUT24
That is exactly what I did and then I remembered that I'm broke af
Yeah. Don't. If you did 5-10 years ago you could have bought quite a handfull of these for the price of one today
BMW HILL ZONE Act 1
twin turbo this and the stock V12 is good for 800hp +
Seriously. Awesome engine.
gotta be carefull ... nothing can probably suck more then a front heavy car !
One of the last cars I thought I would see on the channel. But man does it deliver.
Ultimately the engine was done in by the heads. There was no way to get the engine to rev due to poor exhaust port configuration. The exhaust ports on every cylinder are pinched by a cooling jacket and then a quick 90-degree bend. Forced induction helps, assuming you can integrate it with the drive-by-wire throttle. There was an M8 prototype produced (one) that had completely redesigned heads with DOHC and mild headers, but no parts or design data are available. Given the problems with airflow, the rest of the design decisions were made with an eye toward tall gearing and 140 mph cruising on the autobahn rather than 0-60 times. I had one for about six years and enjoyed playing around with it, but it's really not a car for American driving unless you have to take I-80 across Nevada at least once a week.
GOD DAMMIT you got me so pumped up when you mentioned driving at 2:00 AM with Dream Theater as a background because this is exactly the kind of mood I would want to experience off a car.
Dream Theater reference!! Hell yeah Mr. REGULARRRRR
Still looks good today
Not even that small twin-kidney grill nor the BMW logo can fool me that it looks like a 3rd gen Supra, but I love both of these cars...
BMW literally joined two V-6 engines for this car. Unfortunately, this model is prone to oil leaks. One advantage, these cars don't have the VANOS system.
It has many gaskets and they were made of paper at the time. If you replace all of those with better sealing modern products it will solve that problem.
That dream theatre mention was woke ✌🏿👍
Had to do a double take when I heard that one hahaha
By far my favourite bmw
Please do the Lexus SC400 next!
My God. I fucking love your regular car reviews. You earned my sub. Keep up the good work my man.
OMG I had a BMW with one of those little flashlights! It was one of those many small features that felt like it was indicative of luxury.
Also, the fact that the car radio gave me information like outside temperature and average fuel economy.