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  • @logandaley1544
    @logandaley1544 7 місяців тому +8

    This is the first Warhammer product I’ve ever bought. I’m putting together a force for a local escalation league to help learn the rules so this is a big help.

  • @TheNosnibore
    @TheNosnibore 8 місяців тому +66

    As a dwarf player, I don’t know why I watched 3 hours about magic, seems like some elf nonsense. But I had a good time watching it! Great job guys, looking forward to more deep dives!

    • @Sandrip3926
      @Sandrip3926 8 місяців тому +3

      You've got to bring a good honest immovable grudgin anvil.

    • @zeldaaddicted6686
      @zeldaaddicted6686 8 місяців тому +5

      Know thy enemy.

    • @user-vd5wh7cj2e
      @user-vd5wh7cj2e 5 місяців тому +1

      I'm also a Dwarf player and I'm watching this to understand magic better so I can defeat magic.

  • @Legion_of_the_bland
    @Legion_of_the_bland 8 місяців тому +20

    The more of these you put out the more i'm tempted to give old world a try. Love watching you guys bounce off each other with such great enthusiasm ❤

  • @Nekorook
    @Nekorook 8 місяців тому +34

    Every deep dive needs to start with the submarine noise. Arguably the double awoooga. Val’s fuck up just established a new precedent.

  • @anderslundtoft2315
    @anderslundtoft2315 8 місяців тому +28

    You have now been my favorite Old world channel! Keep em coming! :D

  • @CutePoisonEU
    @CutePoisonEU 8 місяців тому +3

    Guys... I am one minute in and no matter how informative the video will be, thank you for your chemistry and the way that you present stuff!

  • @GlodansYT
    @GlodansYT 8 місяців тому +40

    I wish I could live life with half the enthusiasm Val puts into his interpretive dance intros.

  • @ahjington89
    @ahjington89 5 місяців тому +1

    Id wish they kept that crazy shit on the miscast table. I need more of that gameplay in my life

  • @hellboy_bloodbowl7981
    @hellboy_bloodbowl7981 8 місяців тому +1

    3 days and I made it to the end. A deep dive *insert sound effect* indeed! Great stuff.

  • @belannaertv
    @belannaertv 8 місяців тому +2

    3 hours of lovely background awesomeness while I paint some models. I ended up starting Wood Elf army and I 100% blame your video :D

  • @SimplyWarhammer
    @SimplyWarhammer 8 місяців тому +12

    Im new to the Old World and watching 😁 really excited to get in and ive chosen Dwarfs as my 1st army.
    Enjoying the content, thanks

  • @IceJoust
    @IceJoust 8 місяців тому +3

    Absolutely love the deep dive alarm 😂 3 hours is nearly enough square based for a week.. Don't kill yourselves chasing more but anything you put out I'll keep clicking it O7

    • @SquareBasedOldWorld
      @SquareBasedOldWorld  8 місяців тому +2

      We will keep making!! Thanks!!

    • @IceJoust
      @IceJoust 8 місяців тому +1

      @@SquareBasedOldWorld I made it out the other side! I want to see Biggles Dwarf vs the 8 Feet of Gork

  • @ClaudiosCollection
    @ClaudiosCollection 8 місяців тому +19

    I watch your videos more than once... sometimes more than three times! I love your videos! I can listen to you geeks talk-Hammer all day, over and over again! Keep up the great work!

    • @SquareBasedOldWorld
      @SquareBasedOldWorld  8 місяців тому +4

      I think we're ok with this? Should we start using a safe word?

  • @warpaintjj
    @warpaintjj 5 місяців тому +2

    Third watch, still learning every time 👍
    Deep dive on Lizards please… 🙏

  • @SSBBcore
    @SSBBcore 8 місяців тому +1

    This channel carry the hype for TOW so hard! Thank you guys!

  • @johndale8308
    @johndale8308 8 місяців тому +3

    Great stuff fellas - really excited to get some games in.

  • @joelfoster2256
    @joelfoster2256 8 місяців тому +2

    What an epic video. Love your work lads! You both have excellent chemistry feeding off each other, keep it up! I’m working on my Warriors of Chaos list and this video really helped in deciding how to flesh it out (taking more than one wizards now😂😂😂)

  • @edwoolley2985
    @edwoolley2985 8 місяців тому +2

    I tell you what is magic. These podcasts baby.

  • @Gizimpy
    @Gizimpy 8 місяців тому +2

    Someone's gotta correct me if I'm wrong. From the Sister's of the Thorn rules, their Deepwood Coven ability states that they know one spell "chosen by their controlling player before armies are deployed." That reads that it's not randomly generated. If so, that's crazy-useful to guarantee you have Curse of Arrow Attraction.

  • @oldex6564
    @oldex6564 7 місяців тому

    This was great. Listened on Spotify so just wanted to leave a comment for the algorithm so here's my top 58 albums of last year
    58. Asagraum - Veil of Death, Ruptured
    57. Ghosts of Atlantis - Riddles of the Sycophants
    56. Issa - Lights of Japan
    55. Tradtorned - Into The Void
    54. Sophie Lloyd - SHRED vol. 1
    53. Turmion Kätilöt - Omen
    52. Solence - Hope Is A Cult
    51. Void Chapter - humAnIty
    50. Ronnie Romero - Raised on Heavy Radio
    49. Warmen - Here For None
    48. Craving - Call of the Sirens
    47. Draconicon - Pestilence
    46. George Lynch & Jeff Pilson - Heavy Hitters II
    45. Metallica - 72 Seasons
    44. Liv Sin - KaliYuga
    43. Otep - The God Slayer
    42. U.D.O. - Touchdown
    41. Escape the Fate - Out of the Shadows
    40. Twisted Rose - Cherry Tales
    39. Conquer Divide - Slow Burn
    38. Obituary - Dying of Everything
    37. Self Deception - You Are Only As Sick As Your Secrets
    36. Delain - Dark Waters
    35. Phantom Elite - Blue Blood
    34. Powerwolf - Interludium
    33. Babymetal - The Other One
    32. Otherwise - Gawdzillionaire
    31. Lyrre - Not All Who Dream Are Asleep
    30. Red Cain - NÄE'BLISS
    29. 3Teeth - EndEx
    28. Bezerker Legion - Chaos will Reign
    27. Elysion - Bring Out Your Dead
    26. Burning Witches - The Dark Tower
    25. Redhook - Postcards From A Living Hell
    24. In This Moment - GODMODE
    23. Steve Morton - Technically Metal
    22. Aortha - Monolit
    21. When Plagues Collide - Chaotic Upheaval
    20. Manntra - War of the Heathens
    19. Dog Eat Dog - Free Radicals
    18. Avatar - Dance Devil Dance
    17. Beyond the Black - Beyond the Black
    16. Lordi - Screem Writers Guild
    15. Angus McSix - and the Sword of Power
    14. Ignea - Dreams of Lands Unseen
    13. Danko Jones - Electric Sounds
    12. Prognostic - Chaotic Upheaval
    11. Cobra Spell - 666
    10. Edge of Paradise - Hologram
    9. The Unslain - Descending
    8. HAWXX - Earth, Spit, Blood and Bones
    7. Nacarbide - The Identity of Discord
    6. Icon of Sin - Legends
    5. Butcher Babies - Eye For An Eye...
    4. Tulip - The Perpetual Dream
    3. Lovebites - Judgment Day
    2. Daedric - Mortal
    1. Butcher Babies - ... 'Til The World's Blind

  • @jacekay6031
    @jacekay6031 8 місяців тому +1

    Since you asked for comments on drain magic, I think it's a very weak effect. As Rob noticed, it's a remains in play, which means you opponent will get another free chance to dispel it, this time at it's base value, before they cast any spells. At 9+ that's trivial for a level 4 and pretty easy for even a level 2. Even if it's not dispelled it's quite weak. Unless you have low level wizards attempting high difficulty spells the +2 casting value requirement will mostly be irrelevant. A level 4 doesn't really care if it needs to roll a 6 instead of 4, on 2d6 since it's aiming for much higher than that or it will be easily dispelled.
    So for this spell to have any impact at all you need to:
    1 Successfully cast it.
    2 Opponent fail to dispel it
    3 Opponent fail to dispel it at it's base value on their turn
    4 Opponent roll exactly 1 or 2 below the new modified casting value
    That's an absurd requirement. Overall a very disappointing signature. Should have been -2 to the opponents casting roll, and lasts until your next start of turn sub phase instead of remains in play.

    • @mikereed4594
      @mikereed4594 8 місяців тому +1

      It's cast on a 9, you have to beat the casting value to dispel, so the dispel on their turn needs a 10+. That's pretty easy for a lvl 4 to beat, but pretty good against multiple lower level casters who are failing more than they succeed, and that's where the +2 casting value is also at its most effective. Certainly a very matchup dependent spell, but does not seem bad.

    • @jacekay6031
      @jacekay6031 8 місяців тому

      @@mikereed4594 That's true, good point. Yeah still quite easy for a level 4 but a little bit harder than I'd thought.
      I agree it's decent against multiple low level casters. It's just a shame that that's already when you're dispelling most enemy spells with your level 4. You'd really want drain magic to help when you're evenly matched or even behind (like against Chaos +6 to cast). But drain magic will do basically nothing there.

  • @jacekay6031
    @jacekay6031 8 місяців тому +4

    1:22:15 Here you say that you get to pick spells if you roll doubles? This isn't true though right? It just says you re-roll duplicate results. I think the picking on a double is from another edition. Also at 14:30 you say the same thing? You both seem very sure so I'm confused if I've missed something.

    • @roboticgadfly
      @roboticgadfly 8 місяців тому

      That was my read from the rules as well. Great video deep dive into Magic though! Lot is new, so important to dump out all the other editions of Warhammer Fantasy from the brain. 😅

  • @StrengthHammer
    @StrengthHammer 8 місяців тому +7

    Love you Val! Thanks for coming on my show last week!
    You two continue crush it!

  • @PRAISE_HASHUT
    @PRAISE_HASHUT 8 місяців тому +3

    So many cool spells to try but they’re gonna be difficult to learn. If only GW made a set of reference cards we could readily buy in shops or on their website.

    • @stevenshea990
      @stevenshea990 8 місяців тому +2

      And even if you did get a chance to pre-order, if you live in the East Coast USA, you couldn't get them anyway because the snow storms delayed all of the shipments to stores.

  • @joshvikis9993
    @joshvikis9993 8 місяців тому +8

    1 hour after dropping I've already enjoyed 3 hours of pure and unadulterated joy. #Squareblessed

  • @adamsboringvids
    @adamsboringvids 8 місяців тому +4

    2:48:29 WAG magic! Does it help you get married to a footballer?

  • @Emanon...
    @Emanon... 8 місяців тому +1

    Great video!

  • @nurglematthew893
    @nurglematthew893 8 місяців тому +8

    I like the part where we deep dive!

  • @nurglematthew893
    @nurglematthew893 8 місяців тому +4

    3 hours in and still a fan. What a thiccc, juicy review.

  • @Marsyas01
    @Marsyas01 8 місяців тому

    High Magic can only be cast once per caster. Range: Self. Hex says "cannot be cast on the same unit multiple times". You are casting it on yourself. With multiple spellcasters, you can put down multiple hexes.

  • @nicovideotube
    @nicovideotube 8 місяців тому

    I can't wait to see what bonuses to cast dark magic the Dark Elves get

  • @Linkusmax
    @Linkusmax 8 місяців тому +3

    I think the value of a lot of these Lores is increased by the Lore Familiar magic item which lets you choose your spells, especially ones like Elementalisim which have only a couple really good spells which if you can guarantee you can do a lot of list building around.

  • @diegoteutli9104
    @diegoteutli9104 8 місяців тому +4

    YOu guys are killing it with all this amazing content! Keep it up!

  • @kamael22
    @kamael22 8 місяців тому +1

    What about double ones on fated dispel? Who suffers miscast effects? If I missed the answer - sorry!

  • @MiniatureRealms
    @MiniatureRealms 7 місяців тому +1

    If anyone else did a 3hr hour video on magic it would have been dry as ….., great job guys.

  • @collinl5023
    @collinl5023 8 місяців тому +3

    I'm in love with the idea of a Beastlord with Mangelder, his bestigors having the Manbane standard, and that demonology spell for potentially -5 leadership.

  • @howardlewis9169
    @howardlewis9169 8 місяців тому +3

    Every deep dive needs that sound, put a smile on my face😂. Solid again lads. I commute home at the weekends and always listen to you guys for the 3 1/2 hours drive! Gutted I couldn't come to the opening at HQ as I only live 30 mins away but daughter was sick so couldn't make it. Keep up the great work lads, we are all still learning but it's fun doing it together, don't change a thing lads.

  • @JaykeHallOfLegends
    @JaykeHallOfLegends 8 місяців тому +2

    Thanks gang! I’d never have been able to sit and read all those, so big shout out to Val and Rob for helping this poor ADHDer out

  • @l337haxz0rn00b
    @l337haxz0rn00b 8 місяців тому

    I think I saw a unit of marauders can be skirmishers. 20-30 of them marked Tzentch and 5 Lv2 sorcerers spamming blue fire at +3 sounds wild.

  • @themidnightaristocrat
    @themidnightaristocrat 8 місяців тому +2

    This helps with my night shift 👌

  • @T0beyeus
    @T0beyeus 8 місяців тому +1

    I could not think of what one might do with Hammerhand unless playing Warriors of Chaos or a treeman, but if I am understanding Shield of the Lady for the Handmaidens of Bretonnia, it would mean they can be in the rear of the unit safe but still cast Hammerhand as if still in the front fighting rank. This could be very useful for a level 1 or 2 Damsel.

  • @TheMrSlize
    @TheMrSlize 8 місяців тому

    Illusion Spectral Doppelganger - Cast from Shadowdancer in WE :)
    And i think your Necromancy Slide is off, notice in armies who can use it it says "Illusion" so i think its armies who can use illusion, you forgot to swap this part from previous image.
    Very nice talk

    • @SquareBasedOldWorld
      @SquareBasedOldWorld  8 місяців тому +2

      A Copypasta error will probably one day destroy the planet

  • @jolamber
    @jolamber 8 місяців тому +2

    Thanks for the video

  • @mizzrum7591
    @mizzrum7591 8 місяців тому +2

    You smashed this video out the park guys.
    Information was great and going need to watch the video more than once lol.

  • @bobroll6530
    @bobroll6530 6 місяців тому +1

    Indeed, you need no engagement bait, ngl, i started watching this to make an informed decision on my sorcerers' lores, staid for the mathgammer, fun and vibes, built my last chosennas you were talking about the lores I can't even take and still learned a lot about what I'll be up against

  • @jolamber
    @jolamber 8 місяців тому +2

    Do you need vision and line of sight of the enemy wizard to wizardly dispell

  • @MattDer-ff2us
    @MattDer-ff2us 8 місяців тому +1

    I survived till the end..I might have absorbed %10 of the content.. Worth

  • @SwopetheDope
    @SwopetheDope 8 місяців тому +2

    3 hours of Rob and Val?
    Alrighty

  • @Brightminipainting
    @Brightminipainting 8 місяців тому +2

    Outstanding review and the best intro to date, cried with laughter - even more hilarious on twitch. Deep dive!!

  • @kellyhoesing2573
    @kellyhoesing2573 7 місяців тому +1

    I'm going to have vietnam flashbacks every time someone casts Drain Magic now.

  • @andrewsimmons2711
    @andrewsimmons2711 8 місяців тому

    Sunglasses Val is my favorite. Square based shutter shades when?

  • @PRAISE_HASHUT
    @PRAISE_HASHUT 8 місяців тому +3

    Our lads are in essentially sweat shop conditions, pumping out these videos thick and fast for our mass consumption!! 💕

    • @SquareBasedOldWorld
      @SquareBasedOldWorld  8 місяців тому +2

      Grafting like champions

    • @PRAISE_HASHUT
      @PRAISE_HASHUT 8 місяців тому +2

      @@SquareBasedOldWorld like champions, musicians and standard bearers. Full command.

  • @Willabrador
    @Willabrador 8 місяців тому +2

    Can you choose a fated dispel if you have a wizard available? Or is the wording that you only get a fated one if your wizard cannot dispel for whatever reason?

    • @SquareBasedOldWorld
      @SquareBasedOldWorld  8 місяців тому +3

      You can do a fated dispell once per turn for whatever reason you like. If you're out of range, don't have a wizard, or perhaps don't want to risk a Miscast.

    • @Willabrador
      @Willabrador 8 місяців тому +2

      @@SquareBasedOldWorld nice, thanks for the reply. Loving what you're making dude! Hyped for the Old World!

  • @uncouthboy8028
    @uncouthboy8028 8 місяців тому +2

    Why did they get rid of the schools of magic?

    • @Gizimpy
      @Gizimpy 8 місяців тому

      In-universe explanation: They haven't been invented yet. The Empire's Colleges of Magic outline the schools, and they literally haven't been built yet in the start year of the Old World.
      Rules explanation: ... uh, it's something different? Probably just to mix it up and separate it from older editions. Battle Magic is a good example, it's a nice all-round set of spells for a caster that will be up close. The more category-schools they have now are arguably better for giving casters specific roles.

    • @uncouthboy8028
      @uncouthboy8028 8 місяців тому

      @@Gizimpy I guess. If this was prior to Teclis, I thought magic was illegal in the empire at that time, consisting of hedge wizards and other petty wizards.

  • @KrisDirac
    @KrisDirac 8 місяців тому +1

    I low key want the music to keep going in the background..

  • @mjpyro7993
    @mjpyro7993 8 місяців тому +3

    By far the most entertaining warhammer duo. Keep up the great content!

  • @Coolduff.
    @Coolduff. 7 місяців тому +2

    This is so great. Thank you for all of the hard work.

  • @TheVigilante2000
    @TheVigilante2000 8 місяців тому +1

    Keep in mind the Phantasmagoria only triggers at the end of the enemies movement. So they have a chance to dispel, and move away from it before it even can make them Impetuous or Panic (and Impetuous can't even trigger turn one).

    • @Alfindeol
      @Alfindeol 8 місяців тому

      This was what I was coming here to say. Even if you plop it down turn one and the trigger it by moving, they don't really suffer any ill effects from impetuous unless we circle all the way around to their turn again AND they fail to dispel it a second time.

  • @Isante686
    @Isante686 8 місяців тому +2

    Orks! Dwarfs!

  • @Emanon...
    @Emanon... 4 місяці тому

    It's a bit of a shame that level 4 wizards are almost a must for a good army list.
    How about this idea:
    Level 1-2 get +1 on rolls. Level 3-4 get +2 on rolls. And as an added bonus for level 4, you get to reroll on the miscast table?
    Logic:
    A level 3 is still very good. Level 4 is still a great "bang for your buck" choice compared to level 3, especially with a familiar, and multiple level 1 and 2 wizards become more strategic on the battlefield especially if you go for signatures and know what spells you'll have.
    Thoughts?

  • @prlostinshadows
    @prlostinshadows 8 місяців тому +1

    Haha, tbis is the first time Ive watched on my TV instead of my phone.....let me tell you that the Val intro in 75 inch is something to behold.

  • @TheSirSpence
    @TheSirSpence 8 місяців тому

    Love your content guys, just a thought it would be really useful if you could share these presentations through Google Docs or something.

  • @morcar8991
    @morcar8991 6 місяців тому +1

    Arcane Urgency on Fanatics? Would it work this way?

  • @crimsonsun2000
    @crimsonsun2000 8 місяців тому +2

    Well I'm going to give this a listen while I support some STLs for spicing up my units in my Vampire counts army.. looking good, Witches in the wood should look super cool.

  • @thomasc6684
    @thomasc6684 8 місяців тому +1

    Nice. Looking forwards to the Empire overview you’ve said is coming soon and more deep dives with both of you.

  • @Gadge87
    @Gadge87 8 місяців тому

    Just noted some of the 3D printers on Etsy are temporary closed due to such an increase in demand. Seems to be some real hype for the old world. Hope it holds, and we get more resources thrown the studios way.

    • @anotherdadjoke
      @anotherdadjoke 4 місяці тому +1

      3 months later, Esty still haven't caught back up

  • @Rhaenday
    @Rhaenday 8 місяців тому +1

    Ok, now I *NEED* some people with lots of O&G make a narrative game, both using O&G, both taking as many wizards as possible and the entire battle turning into a place with giant godfeet of magic stomping all over the field xD

    • @SquareBasedOldWorld
      @SquareBasedOldWorld  8 місяців тому +1

      I genuinely tried this my first game with two wizards. The fickle foot of Gork was more interested in stomping me than the bretonnians, but man it was worth it.

  • @nurglematthew893
    @nurglematthew893 8 місяців тому +2

    What's Magic is the way these two speak to my heart

  • @ScatterDieGuy
    @ScatterDieGuy 8 місяців тому +1

    Another epic show. Loving this, keep it up guys.
    ALL the magical vortices!

  • @jensbalslev4693
    @jensbalslev4693 8 місяців тому +1

    I went all the way! I managed to magnetise 13 Ungors, put three Dragon Ogres together and paint a Bray-shaman. Good times!

  • @blastbeatpie3239
    @blastbeatpie3239 8 місяців тому +1

    Also, somehow this has made me even more excited to get my Night Gobbos on the table. It's going to be mayhem 😂

  • @bobbyfillier7931
    @bobbyfillier7931 8 місяців тому +1

    do you think its worth the points to have a functional level 5-6 wizard with Warriors of chaos? (5 spells known, +6 to cast)

  • @LokiDokiGG
    @LokiDokiGG 8 місяців тому +1

    Brilliant stuff as always, fun and educational, really loved getting Val's initial impressions on alot of the spells

  • @CatharsisChaser
    @CatharsisChaser 8 місяців тому +1

    The major secondary benefit of dispel magic from my pov is that it makes casting harder to proc in the first place therefore you don't have to risk dispells as often
    Also it would seem you can cast shield of saphery first and then cast another enchantment spell on the same unit since it only states it gets rid of ones cast previously
    Also I see those devious cogs turning in your mind Rob with regards to vortex spam ;P It was some of the first magical shenanigans I thought of as well
    Sisters of the thorn pillars of fire spam seems like a ridiculous standoff tactic since you can kite the casters away from potential dispels and keep crisping units whilst hampering their charges
    Wind blast is also a contender for me since you can utilize the poisoned javelins at 12" and follow up with a wind blast to widen the distance even more, seems like a bit more reliable damage but less control so a combination of the 2 would probably be ideal
    The fact that they are a special choice means that you can run 7 of them (@2k) as well which is just plain ridiculous since they all get to CHOOSE their spells BEFORE DEPLOYMENT from both battle magic and elementalism... the ultimate utility unit imho

  • @space_bees
    @space_bees 8 місяців тому +3

    I think Rob has convinced me to start a beastmen army

    • @adamsboringvids
      @adamsboringvids 8 місяців тому +1

      Me too

    • @colonelcabbage
      @colonelcabbage 8 місяців тому

      Rob has convinced me to expand me to expand my Beastmen army

  • @searnshaw100
    @searnshaw100 8 місяців тому +3

    That submarine intro was glorious!

  • @SebastienlovesCookieswirlc
    @SebastienlovesCookieswirlc 8 місяців тому +1

    Anyone else thinks the Demon Prince needs either an extra wound on the profile or a drop in points? I feel like the instability + warpspawn really make it not worth the points. I would take the lord anytime over the prince. Any thoughts from our Wonderful but stupendously arrogant (???) hosts or anyone else? How do you see the demon prince used, if at all? As an expensive flying wizard, maybe? Thanks for the timestamps on the video.

    • @iikkakangas2586
      @iikkakangas2586 8 місяців тому

      should have +1 WS and initiative atleast. its basicly a way to get 3x lvl4 sorcerers 😅

    • @SebastienlovesCookieswirlc
      @SebastienlovesCookieswirlc 8 місяців тому +1

      @@iikkakangas2586 Paying premium for it, though. I would up wounds and T score by one, that would make it kind of work.

  • @AbenZin1
    @AbenZin1 8 місяців тому

    Earthen Ramparts seems to be made for Sea Guard!

  • @Stonehorn
    @Stonehorn 8 місяців тому +1

    Id only Steed of Shadows could be cast before the charge phase, an 8x3 brick of say, chosen, or Knights of the Realm on foot. A 13-18 inch charge range.
    It’s still a fantastic spell though, but damn, I’d take it start of charge phase on an 11+!

    • @Stonehorn
      @Stonehorn 8 місяців тому +1

      Also, Daemonic Vessels, you guys kept talking about it buffing units, but it clearly says “self”, caster and mount only. The units don’t get +1 Str, attacks, and AP1. Only ever the caster.

    • @Stonehorn
      @Stonehorn 8 місяців тому +1

      Only other thing you guys seem to be missing is that most remain in play spells, like Drain Magic, templates, and buffs and hexes can be dispelled each round for its casting value. As it’s cast you need to beat the casters roll, but the next turn it’s dispelled at its value. Or that’s how I’ve seen it played in multiple places.
      Also, great work and great videos.

  • @Hobbitonhold
    @Hobbitonhold 8 місяців тому

    The lance formation doesn't give you rank bonuses any more like it used to right? only if you manage to get 4 at the back? I guess that's the bonus of disrupt on the charge.
    Also anyone got a clue where to find decals for the Brets! gutted they just give you the axe head decals :S

  • @alphshift7857
    @alphshift7857 8 місяців тому +1

    So if you have 2 wizard with the same spell can you cast that spell twice?

  • @Juliusstarcraft
    @Juliusstarcraft 8 місяців тому +1

    That was a wonderful video. I’m excited to see how wild Bret can be with magic!

  • @willd5328
    @willd5328 8 місяців тому +1

    This was so very helpful. Thanks!

  • @brett7773
    @brett7773 8 місяців тому

    Remains in play spells look like they be way to easy to dispel , especially with a +4 and 24” range to the caster.
    Feels like there’s a missing rule to curtail this a little such as a wizard may only attempt to dispel one remains in play spell per turn

    • @SquareBasedOldWorld
      @SquareBasedOldWorld  8 місяців тому

      There is just... tons of anti-magic and I'm still learning and waiting to find the best magic boosting abilities. There's just a lot to comb through.

  • @Eszjous
    @Eszjous 8 місяців тому +1

    "We cover all rules and all spell lores"
    Lies! Deceptions!
    We is my rune magic mate !?
    Runes are the future, you umgak! - Bardin Goreksson

    • @SquareBasedOldWorld
      @SquareBasedOldWorld  8 місяців тому +1

      Imagine calling runes magic? By grungis beard!!

    • @Eszjous
      @Eszjous 8 місяців тому

      @@SquareBasedOldWorld well, as the runes are future, lesser umgak races could learn better options than simple magic. Natural order would be to present Rune Lore as last, emphasising it's being a best solution of all previously shown.
      Due to modesty I would not expect a full dedicated show only focusing on Rune Lore (as it would be ... welll quite short!).

  • @davisj011018
    @davisj011018 8 місяців тому +2

    This video is as long as a lord of the rings movie and packs more content. I love it!

  • @CitadelSavage
    @CitadelSavage 8 місяців тому +1

    Loving all the content you guys are putting out! Keep up the good work

  • @skullfullofbats
    @skullfullofbats 8 місяців тому +2

    If I am going to Canada this year, I need a Pint or five with Val. What a dude!

  • @rosvall216
    @rosvall216 4 місяці тому +1

    The deep dive intro, it made my day!

  • @llyrthomas8580
    @llyrthomas8580 8 місяців тому +1

    I love this podcast, and thank you for your time, but please keep it free from real world politics (Bush commentary)

    • @SquareBasedOldWorld
      @SquareBasedOldWorld  8 місяців тому

      We won't at all. Bush is a war criminal

    • @llyrthomas8580
      @llyrthomas8580 7 місяців тому +1

      @SquareBasedOldWorld I think you have missed my point

  • @nicovideotube
    @nicovideotube 8 місяців тому +1

    @43:00 laser line plus the corner 45° arrow tool are indispensable

  • @philr7177
    @philr7177 8 місяців тому +1

    Phenomenal work thank you for what you're doing! Pretty sure you guys are why I'm getting into the old world!

  • @YetiLord
    @YetiLord 8 місяців тому +1

    Jesus christ these intros are the best

  • @diegoreds
    @diegoreds 7 місяців тому

    My Game Store Warhammer Old World has 27 Players & Growing as “FANTASY BATTLES,” get New Players?
    (League Allows Any 28mm Miniature ❤ Due Games Workshop Age of Sigmar miniatures COST & AVAILABLE Stock?
    Example “Giant Spider,” (T6) “Dragon Ogres,” (Only in Beast of Chaos Vanguard?)
    Also Fact “Kings of War,” kits are 40% off at store & Great value?
    GAMES WORKSHOP GET YOUR BUTT WORKING…. It’s getting Pathetic???
    Don’t Let “Old World,” turn out to be “Star Wars,Destiny,”

  • @GVS86
    @GVS86 8 місяців тому +1

    Def the best Old World channel. Factions dives are awesome. Can't wait for the rest.

  • @franpschorr3646
    @franpschorr3646 8 місяців тому +1

    If one character has fireball as a bound spell, can another wizard still cast fireball in the same phase if they know it as one of their enate spells?

    • @SquareBasedOldWorld
      @SquareBasedOldWorld  8 місяців тому +2

      Yes absolutely.

    • @franpschorr3646
      @franpschorr3646 8 місяців тому +1

      @@SquareBasedOldWorld ty. If I build an empire lost I want to spam magic missiles and the 20pt wizard staff.

  • @harrysmith2128
    @harrysmith2128 20 днів тому

    Re drain magic, if they’re casting on a 13 anyway, without drain magic in play, that’s still just as hard to dispel. All it’s doing is making the spell harder to cast and therefore less frequent. The difficulty to dispel isn’t actually changing because the dispel value isn’t fixed. It’s total fallacy to think that it’s making dispels harder all of a sudden.

  • @ExodusDisciple
    @ExodusDisciple 8 місяців тому +1

    You guys are fantastic.

  • @bigsmiles768
    @bigsmiles768 8 місяців тому +1

    lmao best intro

  • @Kristofer__B
    @Kristofer__B 8 місяців тому

    Drain Magic is basically useless vs lvl2+ enemy wizards as they will dispel it before they cast anything and it doesn’t affect the dispel attempt so they just beat the level 9 requirement with 2D6 plus their magic level. Basically useless vs. a lvl 2 or higher enemy mage