Why Pirates of the Caribbean 4 Is Actually Good [On Stranger Tides]
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- Опубліковано 17 тра 2024
- I've always found Pirates of the Caribbean On Stranger Tides to be one of the most underrated movies ever made, so I thought I'd make a video trying to explain why I think it is actually pretty good.
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Footage Used From -
Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides
Pirates of the Caribbean: Curse of the Black Pearl
Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest
Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End
Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Men Tell No Tales
and a couple brief clips from The Black Cauldron
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Music Used -
Yoshi's Tropical Island (Mario Party Superstars)
Busted Bayou (Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze)
With Mila's Devine Protection (Super Smash Bros Brawl)
Horror Land (Mario Party Superstars)
Lighting Chariot Base (Kid Icarus Uprising)
Duty (Fire Emblem Awakening)
Tile Pool (Super Paper Mario)
Bowser Jr's Fiery Flotilla (Super Mario Galaxy)
Mini Boss (TLoZ: Skyward Sword)
Attacking Devine Beast Vah Medoh (TLoZ: Breath of the Wild)
Toad's Midway Madness (Mario Party 4)
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#pirates #piratesofthecaribbean #piratesofthecaribbeanonstrangertides #onstrangertides #disney #fountainofyouth #underrated #jacksparrow #blackbeard
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0:00 - Intro
1:30 - The Usual Complaints
2:41 - Jack Sparrow Is Amazing In This Movie
4:24 - Angelica Is Pretty Good Too Actually
5:50 - Blackbeard Is Actually A Great Villain
7:43 - Barbosa Is Great As Usual (Also Other Characters That I Don't Have Time For)
9:08 - The Plot Is Good Despite Being Centered On Jack Sparrow
10:57 - The Movie Is Very Intriguing and Well Paced
12:30 - A Great Scene With Blackbeard and Sirena
13:19 - Angelica's Knowledge of the Fountain Consistently Keeps Us On The Edges of Our Seats
13:46 - The Atmosphere of the Movie Is Incredible
15:07 - The Many Differing Motivations of the Characters
16:27 - The Many Great Action Sequences of the Film
17:20 - The Final Battle and Blackbeard's Ironic Fate
18:00 - Jack Sparrow Tricks Blackbeard Into His Death/The Best Scene In The Movie
20:01 - Epilogue Scenes
20:41 - Final Thoughts
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Fun Fact: When Phillip (The Preacher) saves Sirena from suffocating, he props open her carrying case with a bible, therefore she was literally saved by the word of God lol.
I just realized every time you say the preacher instead of Philip it puts a little hey my name is Phillip statement, lol.
All those movies are the best. Disney shot themselves in the foot by taking sides with his lying abusing turd 💩 of an ex. They should have either stayed with him or been neutral until after the trial that proved who she really was.
why the hate for movie 5? it's not nearly as good sure, but it's not an inherently terrible movie either
@@brittanybarthel1410 Same could be said with the entirety of the voice acting industry siding with Monica Rial and Jamie Marchi during the KickVic incident of 2019 or, to some extent, some UA-cam commentators and commenters siding with the MandoPony accusers during his drama (which, yeah, we had nothing to go off of that would support his side of the argument until the investigation last year, but my point still stands). It's best to remain neutral and not pick sides during dramas like what I just mentioned or the Amber Heard controversy, and let the proper authorities do their job and comb through evidence and form a consensus so we don't have to.
@@bachilles3285 too bad for Disney they didn’t do that. They sided with the 💩 and have so far been paying the consequences for it. Hopefully he continues to say no because of it. Because they absolutely don’t deserve him.
I love how Blackbeard’s whole motivation is “I am a bad man.” Sometimes we need a simple villain who’s just evil for the fun of it.
Also you know fear of death but whatever
Didn't expect to find Telesto under the comment section for Pirates of the Caribbean but here we are lmao
Its also pretty realistic, considering that many people in the real world are simply evil without any redeemable qualities.
it never crossed my mind how can anyone find Will and Elizabeth not being in the film bad, considering both their character arcs were properly concluded in At World's End. If anything, including Will and Elizabeth would feel unnecesary and forced fan service. Introducing Angelica, played wonderfully by Spanish actress Penelope Cruz, was a good thing, I think her relationship with Jack Sparrow is pretty interesting.
Also, Óscar Janeada looks absolutely badass in his role as the Spanish captain, he gives vibes that he was born to play it.
I dont think it wouldve been forced, Elizabeth is still the pirate king and with that alot of danger can come by, what disappoints me in this film is that in the trilogy before the world building was amazing you really felt the world was lived in but in this one and the one after you feel like that has been drasticaly toned down and they barely connect to what came before, jack didnt seem to have a goal in this movies and literally got kidnapped and forced to be in the narrative, blackbeards motivations are bizarre he will be killed by a one legged man so he needs to fountain to avoid that ? Im assuming if youre younger youre not gonna be immune to being stabbed by a one legged man or by any man with a sword for that matter.
And it just feels like blackbeard came out of nowhere, like where was he in the 3rd movie since he is this big pirate that all pirates fear ? If he was this big player i would assume he wouldve played a role in the big battle that decided the fate of all pirates in the 3rd movie.
They couldve made a cool connection to davey jones to explain that absence,
What if blackbeard was a big pirate years ago that commanded the seas with everyone fearing him for years and his big army of pirates owing all of that to a deal he made with davey jones just like jack did for his black pearl, but unlike jack when it was time to pay up blackbeard runs away to land giving up his pirating ways forever afraid of davey jones and never going back to the sea so he wont face him, showing the parallels between him and jack where one faced there fear and defeated the devil while the other ran away like a coward and like what jack wouldve become if he did succumb to his own fears like he almost did.
Fast forward a few decades later a year after davey jones is dead and theres a vacuum in power that needs to be filled, with blackbeards only reason thats keeping him away from the sea having died he can finaly come back and rebuild his army that he once had to take over the seas again, but after decades of waiting the man has become to old and needs to recover the years that he has lost and thats why he goes for the fountain of youth. You can split this story into 2 movies even with the first ending with blackbeard recovering his youth and the second one having him want to be the pirate king, since before when there was no king he needed the court to vote him in which wouldve never happened but now that there is a king they can add a rule in the narrative that a new king can be crowned after killing the old one paving the way for elizabeth to reenter the narrative and will to come back to protect his wife in the 5th movie and the bretheren court returning with the climax of the 5th movie being between blackbeards rebuilt army vs the bretheren court and all their army under king elizabeth all while jack is jumping around from side to side manipulating the whole situation so he can get back his black pearl.
@@gingerpotter21Yeah it would have been, their arc is done in At World's End. It was perfect.
@@LordVader1094 not really, will is cursed unable to see his love or child for every 10 years, and Elizabeth is still technicaly the pirate king there are still these 2 loose ends that can be capitalized on. Not to mention Will is immortal and he can probably see his wife and child around like 10 more times before they die and he lives on for eternity, i highly doubt thats a perfect end.
It was a great ending for at worlds end but for them there is still much to be expanded on
Yeah, it felt like the series had to move on from them. The series had plenty of them in 2 and 3. Jack, Gibbs, and Barbosa all felt like characters that would be pirating until the very end, but Will and Elizabeth's arcs felt finished. This movie isn't amazing, but watching it after THREE it felt so much better. I will maintain that three was the worst one. A slog that took itself too seriously, felt too dour and miserable, and just went on and on, even if it had some genuinely great moments. It's hard to believe that it was shot at the same time as 2, it feels like it was written and directed by a completely different team.
4 felt like the franchise was going to move down an episodic path, which was very welcome. Keep the movies self-contained, keep them cheeky and fun even if scary at parts.
It never had to be specifically Will and Elizabeth, but Jack not being THE main character is important. He works best as a foil to drive the plot without us ever truly knowing his motives until the end.
How could you say something so controversial yet so brave
Agreed 100%. This movie is very underrated! The action scenes are spectacular and captain Jack Sparrow and Barbosa antics carry this movie! The ending scene is also very good with Jack Sparrow walking through the sunset with all of Blackbeard’s bottles ships, unfortunately Dead man tells no tales retcons the ending by making Jack Sparrow a dumbass by not freeing the bottles ships because he doesn’t ask help to any sorcerer or Barbosa himself to free the ships.
Because Barbosa would have betrayed him like he actually does in the movie
Yea I agree
I watched this movie a lot when I was younger and was stumped when I found out people didn't like it. And in the past week I watched all the Pirates movies for the first time in years and... yeah I still think it's great even if it's not a continuation of the first three movies (which are perfectly fine as their own trilogy). Glad to hear some nice words about this film.
I SO AGREE! I’ve been saying this for YEARS. Finally someone makes a video about it
I'm going to be honest with you. I'm not really into pirates much, but there's just something so special about pirates of the Caribbean. that just makes you love them :)
Actually, I kind of agree, these are some of the only Pirate movies I actually like (even DMTNT is more interesting than most even if it's poorly written).
I totally agree! The only other pirate movie I have even watched recently (though I don't know if it counts fully) was treasure planet!
What is your reasoning for not liking it?
So, as a fun fact, this movie was loosely based on a book simply titled On Stranger Tides by Tim Powers. The two aren't exactly the same (among a number of other differences, the book's protagonist is a very different character than Jack Sparrow, though both do have the same first name), but the book does have Blackbeard as a villain using voodoo.
I recently found a used copy of that book. Knowing it was the inspiration for this movie, I bought it, and plan to read it soon.
This is the first Pirates of the Caribbean movie i ever watched, So it holds a special place in my heart
Same here
Same
As long as you got into the series. They’re all great
Why’d you start with the 4th 💀
@@Telesto_Timelostcould've been worse
Could've started with 5💀
Obviously the first 3 are the best. However, I agree that 4th is a great movie. Not a stellar sequel, but a good side story. Jack is still recognizable, the writing is mostly good, the main villian is fun, the romances have delightful chemistry and I love the idea of exploring Jack's past more. I wish they left the scene about how he became a pirate in. It strengthens his connection to Will and better explains his grey morality. His relationship with Angelica could do something similar. He was scared of who he was becoming again. She brought out the best in him. So he left because he didn't want to change, but didn't want to hurt someone he genuinely loved. Maybe seeing the preacher and the mermaid trying to overcome the odds could remind him of Will and Elizabeth, except they still have a chance at a happier ending. Jack is best as a side character, but a good character-driven movie about reconciling who he is vs who wants to be and how his trauma has shaped him could be great. He is ultimately a good man trying his best to be another version of Blackbeard. Yet when it really matters he chooses self-sacrifice and compassion. This movie could have done what the others didn't have the chance to because he wasn't the focus of the story.
I don't mind the lack of Will and Elizabeth's characters. Their arcs were satisfying concluded. And who thought Jack was going to stop being Jack just because their stories stopped overlapping? I will entertain the complaint that they could have made better reference to how the relationships Jack had with them impacted him.
The second and third films are direct sequels to the first. A direct continuation of the story (sort of) with all the same characters on a new adventure. Whereas On Stranger Tides is an indirect sequel. A new tale in the same universe with mostly new character.
Both are valid ways to do sequels. Difference is that Dead Man's Chest and At World's End are enhanced by their connection, and On Stranger Tides can stand on its own much more easily.
In my opinion, Jack Sparrow is at his best when he's not the main protagonist. Protagonists tend to get dragged into the conflicts, and Jack is better when he's one of the ones doing the dragging. He does get several chances to demonstrate the wit, cleverness, and adaptability that we know and love him for (which is better than Dead Men Tell No Tales gives him; the best he gets there is the flashback to when Salazar got trapped), but outside of those moments it feels like he's just along for the ride.
The lack of Will and Elizabeth would probably be less contentious if their nominal replacements (Philip and Sirena) were as well developed as they were even in their first movie. The plot should have been at least as much about them as it was about Jack and Angelica.
While I still consider this the weakest in the franchise for those reasons (I quite enjoyed Dead Men Tell No Tales despite its butchering of Jack), I would agree that it's a better film than people give it credit for when not viewed through the lens of "followup to a beloved film trilogy".
Interestingly the ending of the original trilogy (At World's End) is pretty contentious in the grand scheme of things, so the clean break from those films, demonstrating it’s a bigger world than just the stories of 2 characters, can be considered a refreshing change of pace to some. I know plenty who like this more than either Dead Man's Chest or At World's End for this reason.
My second favorite POTC movie (the 1st one is the best, imo).
Absolutly loved Jack and his interactions with the other characters, especially in an ending of the movie when he talks with Gibbs about life. One of my favorite scenes from the entire franchise.
Loved how there are multiple factions/characters with their own goals. Spanish were badass and I wish they were brought back in POTC5 somehow, since the main villain is spanish (if i'm not mistaken).
I haven’t watched this movie in forever but this was my first Pirates of the Caribbean movie and I remember enjoying it quite a bit. I look forward to watching this video.
Me also but,I didn't like it wen I first watched it cause I thought it was boring but,I was also like 11 year's old also so Idk or I don't know if that's why or not..... 😅
I never got why this movie is so disliked, I still find it one of the better films in the series and it did much better at recapturing what made the first movie great than 2 and 3
I like this movie a lot. It's well done life you said. Jack Sparrow is so iconic. Stay iconic Jack!
Finally someone says it. Yes, the main villain and final battle were underwhelming, but everything else about it is decent at the very least.
Also yes siiiir, Dead Man's Chest is the best one. Shimple as 🥂
Edit: On a side note, I think it's a shame that the algorithm buried this video, judging from the views on your other videos. More people need to know that this movie is highly underrated.
I don't remember that much about this movie, but I do remember Blackbeard's death being pretty epic
I don't think Captain Salazar is a bad villain. He was just thrown into a bad movie.
This movie is my second favorite film in the franchise after the first one. It’s not too dark like At World’s End and never gets too much like a parody like Dead Men Tell No Tales. I like that they got rid of Will and Elizabeth. Focusing solely on Jack was the way to go and he never has to be a supporting character to their story (which means no love triangle again). I also love Ian McShane as Blackbeard. He was a lot of fun to watch and I disagree that he was boring. The only truly bad thing I can say about this movie is the subplot with the missionary and the mermaid. There’s no reason for it and they blatantly feel like an attempt for the movie to replace Will and Elizabeth. Every time I watch this movie on rewatch, I skip those scenes. Otherwise I unapologetically love this movie.
At World End is not too dark
I love this movie, particularly for the music, specifically the use of guitars for Angelica’s theme
Even though I was sad the first time I watched it because Will Turner and Elizabeth Swann were not in it I still thought it was good. But watching it again recently I have realized that it really is a great movie and still feels like Pirates of the Caribbean! I also liked the new characters and I agree that having the new characters in the fourth movie was much better than bringing back familiar characters and then ruining them or not using them like movie number five did.
Love to actually hear some positivity about this movie. I rewatched the whole Pirates franchise recently and I liked this one even more than I remembered. Never understood why so many people seem to only like the first movie
You forgot to mention the scene where they're playing the mutiny. One of the best scenes
I agree this movie receives way to much hate. It's a good movie
Especially after derivative and hollow mess that Deadmen tell no tales was. Jack is not even himself there.
Jack is the best part of this movie hes still very clever, has some great scenes and isnt a mindless drunk like in the 5th
Jack is just an amazingly iconic character, when I saw the dead man tell no tales I was so Angry. Why... why would you do this!!!
This video made me want to watch the Pirates franchise again..
Finally! It's so good to hear some positive things said about this movie! I love all 4 pirate movies. (What 5th movie? There's no 5th movie.) It's my favorite franchise. People are so hard on it. Thanks for making a positive review!
While watching your Wreck-it Ralph video, I saw you community post about your latest two videos being dunked on my the Algorithm. I came to check it out immediately (oh and I subscribed once I started this video). I don’t understand why this video has only 556 views.
I agree with your statements about this film, I also don't need to give this film a 2nd chance because it won me over the 1st time I watched it
Same. I've always loved this movie lol
Also I like how you referenced the Lego game, I need to play it again!
Bruh finally someone said what ive been thinking for years
I think I've finally found a group of people here who have right opinion about this movie like me
Hey man, it’s me Tyler I was in your class, and just wanna say your channel is so good! I know I already said that but I just have to say it again you inspired me to creat a UA-cam channel man. Would be an honor to collab one day!
Yeah, I don’t see why Elizabeth Swan and Will Turner would be necessary to continue the franchise. Give us Captain Jack Sparrow doing his hi-jinx in a fairly well-written plot and the audience should be having fun. If they’re not having fun, then their rum is probably gone.
Yeah, I completely agree also a great reference to the movie, lol!
I feel like he just isnt as good of a character when he is in the center, he needs another one to take that spot to be effective in my opinion
I would have much preferred it if they made this the second movie instead and have the whole franchise be about following Jack Sparrow on his many different adventures that don't have much to do with each other besides having Jack in them, rather than have one three movie long story following the characters who's stories should have been resolved in the first movie and reduce Jack as a side character in his own franchise until he fourth movie. I actually think that the whole following independent adventures following Jack was what the creators originally intended for the franchise but then the Disney executives stepped in and said "Nooo! We have to get 'legolas' back in there he's too popular to leave out!"
Okay but then we wouldn't have had the greatness of the trilogy
I think the real reason that people hate this movie is because Jack doesn't have any motivation for getting the fountain. While the trilogy showed how he had a secret motivation within the plot, he doesn't have that in this movie. He's just dragged around. In fact everyone has a motivation but him,even the Spanish who showed up at the last second had reason to get to the fountain. I personally don't mind this because even though he doesn't have one, he is still represented way better than Pirates 5. Thank you for defending my favorite movie in the franchise.
I've been wanting to give these films another chance for a while, I just haven't had the time and energy to rewatch them. I love the first one (that one I HAVE rewatched multiple times, even quite recently, and it's one of my favourite movies of all time), I don't like 2 and 3 (only watched them once as a kid, don't remember most of them, only that I hated them back then and found them too dark), and I felt pretty meh about 4 and 5 (4 I've watched twice I think, 5 only once in cinema when it came out), like, they were not bad, but not special. But I really want to dive into that world again and give all of them another watch.
Fellow PotC fan here. I've always felt like we as a society never truly realized just how smart of writers Ted and Terry are. The criticisms against the sequels, specifically the ones that they wrote, have always felt super petty and strange to me. And even though I don't love OST as much as Gore Verbinski's trilogy, I cannot deny that it's a wonderful spiritual continuation that enjoy rewatching quite often. Great video!
I waited a year for the movie and it paid off. Finally i found someone who considers its worth and agrees with the rest of us in the comments for that. WHY THIS FILM HAS SO HATE??????
I completely agree. In this film Barbossa and Jack still have their own characters and have witty lines, while also showing a more serious side. That conversation when tied to the palm tree is legendary. The 5th film hasn't got any of that; Barbossa has become a stupid dad figure and is suddenly parenting, while Jack is a ghost of his former self. While this is also caused by the actors, I think the fact that the original writers who made a lore which made sense and build this world were not involved in the fifth film, is the reason that this film was horrible as it was. The 4th, though less stronger than the trilogy, is still a very good film which I enjoy watching and which has some great moments. It would've been amazing if this was continued as these stand-alone films about Jack and his adventures, rather than bringing back a Will+Elizabeth couple.
Extremely true!
Thanks for this video. In fact THIS is my favorite POTC movie.
*/!\ Big rant on Captain Salazar from Dead Men Tell No Tales /!\*
The thing that disappointed me the most about the 5th installment is how *underused and awful* Captain Salazar was. Imagine Davy Jones bringing up Sparrow's name like a trained parrot every 5 minutes and that was its only character trait. That'd be Salazar.
SO MUCH could have been done with that character: the built up resentment towards Pirate Kind after 20 years of imprisonment in the Devil's Triangle. Its invincibility and the Silent Mary's speed and intimidation factor could have risen the threat level to that of the Kraken but for every pirate in the Caribbean. The interaction it could have had with the British and Spanish Navy and governments, hell make it question if the world is better off with that ghost ship roaming the sea if it protected merchant fleet just for the anticipation of giving pirates their comeuppance. You can still keep the absolute rage Salazar has over what Jack did to him and his crew but you get to have more character development from him.
You know how Salazar's crew can walk on the water ? Here is a terrifying and gruesome way to kill extras in this movie: Have Salazar unleash their zombie sharks and assault a pirate ship. By the sheer sight of the Silent Mary opening its jaws before demolishing the ship, have the crew jump overboard and swim for their lives. As they go underwater, the Spanish soldiers jump off boat too, seeking the evading men still underwater, holding their breath. As the pirates try to gain some distance from the soldiers, have a few of them get charged and eaten alive by the sharks, have a bloody limb float in front of one of the pirates, making him panic and go to the surface for air. *Sword stab in the head* immediately as they go to the surface.
*U N D E R U S E D ! !*
Finally, someone saying what I’ve been thinking for years!! This one has always been my second favorite PotC film, after the first.
Even though I didn't like this movie after I watched it in the "Hollywood theater" in Garland Texas which was a "dollar movie theater" wen it was open (where new movies eventually go there after they've been in the AMC theaters or where the new movies first go,after they've been in those movie theaters,they went to the "dollar movie theater" before they came out on DVD,and blu-ray,and near the end of it's or the "dollar theaters" lifetime,4K DVD) now it's shut down since after covid sadly,and I was like 11 years old wen it came out,and I haven't seen any other Pirates of the Caribbean movies before then so maybe that's why I didn't like it,and the reason I didn't like it is cause I thought it was boring but,I haven't seen it since then (2011),and I'm 22 now so I should definitely rewatch it to see if my opinion will change but,Idk or I don't know..... but,we'll see..... I'll probably update this comment if I watch it again soon..... to answer to see if my opinion changed or not or my perspective on the movie..... (My favorite Pirates of the Caribbean movie was the last one with Jack Sparrow also btw,watched that wen it first came out also,watched it with my Dad as well so it definitely made it a better experience but,keep in mind I haven't watched the first,second or the third movies but,I've played the Lego game so I have a good idea somewat of wat it or they would be like throughout the cutscenes,and levels of the Lego game,not saying I won't ever watch those movies though cause of wat the Lego game made me see wat they're kinda' like in terms of story,and such throughout cutscenes,and levels,cause I will eventually but,I definitely want to rewatch this movie in this video (On Stranger Tides) first before doing so,so I will come back to this comment,and say my updated current opinion on Stranger Tides,and also the other Pirates of the Carribean movies wen I watch them for the first time,and I guess I'll rewatch my favorite 5th one also since I haven't seen that in awhile,and compare that movie to the other one's wen I watch them for the first time...... 😎😅)
Blackbeard is just a bad man, exactly as he says. He just wants power and to be immortal. He didn’t even give it a thought when he drank from the chalice he thought was going to make him immortal and told his own daughter to sacrifice herself for him. He’s not a deep character, he’s a villain plain and simple. Captain Jack Sparrow is the main character so you can have movies without Will and Elizabeth, but you can’t have a movie without Jack. I love all the Pirates of the Caribbean movies, I’ve watch the first one many many times.
Which is perfect because Barbossa and Davy Jones were partially sympathetic villains. Beckett wasn't a pirate.
Blackbeard was an evil pirate.
I’ve only seen the first three so maybe I’ll rewatch them as well as this one because it’s been a long time I last watched them
So, are we just going to ignore that Rockotar is currently 300 years old and will live to be 973 according to his tombstone?
On the note of it being one of the best looking films, it was indeed very expensive to make.
So expensive, in fact, that prior to Avengers Endgame in 2019 it was the most expensive film ever made.
EDIT: Turns out, this is still the most expensive film ever made. This film cost $379 billion whereas endgame only cost $356 billion
It's actually still the most expensive movie ever made.
@@lordofhostsappreciator3075 Oh (after some googling) so it is! I could've sworn I saw somewhere Endgame was more expensive though.
Thanks for the correction!
Millions. Not billions.
I think a lot of public opinion of this movie comes down to just what you said: it's not really a great sequel. The basic structure of PotC movies are that Jack Sparrow is a tool of comedy dragged along by a story that he'd really rather not be in, not the main driver. Therefore, even if jack sparrow is there, if people don't click with the story they dont like the movie. I think the general perception of this movie is one of ambivalence, but internet is as internet does and the most negative vocal opinions rise to the top when people don't have much to say about smth.
The thing I like least about Jack's character in this movie is he didn't really have that clear of a motivation, he was just kinda along for the ride. In the first 3 movies, he had a clearly defined motivation and a well thought out plan to go along with it, but not nearly as much in this movie. I still love this movie though.
Overall, I would rank the franchise:
1. At World's End 10/10
2. Dead Man's Chest 10/10
3. The Curse of the Black Pearl 8/10
4. On Stranger Tides 7/10
5. Dead Men Tell No Tales 3/10
9:00 Don't forget that Barbossa's last words before returning to piracy are "the Revenge is mine." Double meaning there, he could be talking about Blackbeard's ship "the Queen Anne's Revenge" or the revenge he'd been seeking throughout the movie against Blackbeard himself.
I can point out something bad and the only reason why its worse than the original 3: Jach has no Motivation himself but just gets dragged trough the story by the other characters. He doesnt know about the Pearl and that it is in Blackbeards possesion so thats not his Motivation, he has given up searching the fountain of youth so that is not his Motivation. So what is it then?
A fair point, but that doesn't really take away too much from the movie. I do agree that the first 2 are definitely better, the 3rd movie is hard for me to say though, as I have recently found it to be a bit of a mess, a good mess of course, but still a mess. But I think we can certainly agree that the 5th movie is definitely the worst.
I love the music you play during your videos! The super Mario Galaxy songs made me feel nostalgic.
I feel quite relieved when anyone says they liked this film
I wholeheartedly agree! I thoroughly enjoyed On Stranger Tides and I think it’s silly for people to get too hung up on Will and Elizabeth. They are great characters in the content of the first three films. But the true reason there even was a second and third film was primarily because of Jack Sparrow in the first film. Will and Elizabeth do contribute greatly to that story but Jack is where the magic happens. Johnny Depp made the Curse of the Black Pearl infinitely better than it could’ve been. I think everything about it is richer and sweeter because of Jack Sparrow and his shenanigans. At the end of the day, it’s really all about Captain Jack Sparrow. Just like On Stranger Tides. Highly underrated and all about Jack
I fully agree I think its good!!!!
This movie singlehandedly gave us LEGO POTC, so I'm glad you brought it up
I also loved it! (Though 2 will always be my favorite!) I literally looked up why people hate it and found your video! And you do put it best with viewing it as a Jack Spin off (Which there could be many more IF DONE RIGHT!)
Would you consider doing a video about Dead Men Tell No Tales? I saw it years ago but remember NOTHING (Which doesn't happen with movies I even slightly enjoy, let alone a PotC movie!)
Thanks for the video and standing up for this movie!!
God I love this movie franchise it has allweys bean my favorite since childhood.
If Johnny Depp came back for a sixth film, it really needs to retcon a lot of stuff from 5 like his back story with Salazar, and it needs to bring back characters from 4, I would start the movie off with Jack back on his feet, getting ready for a new voyage, when he stumbles across Angelica, (who escaped her marooning) who is revealed to have been responsible for Jacks previous streak of bad luck, having used the voodoo doll to negatively effect Jacks luck, though she recently lost it, and had spent the last month drinking her sorrows away. Davy Jones would return as a villain, but now in the service of the greater threat, Poseidon, who is rather peeved that his trident got smashed, and all his curses undone. Jack and the gang would get back together for one last adventure to end the evil of the heathen gods once and for all. I’m
As a huge Jack Sparrow fan who loves all 5 films, i can't thank you enough for this video. So tired of everyone bashing on potc 4. Thank you so much for this video man. Also amazing humor man. Thank you for this video and if i ever get the chance i will donate to your amazing channel.
I totally agree with the gentleman that made this video! On Stranger Tides is criminally underrated. As I enjoyed this video, a pretty great Theory occurred to me: yes, Jack Sparrow is different than usual in the 5th movie. But the post credit scene of On Stranger Tides was Angelica and the Jack Sparrow voodoo doll. My theory is that whatever she did with that voodoo doll messed Jack up so much that he was never the same. It’s also a great parallel for what was happening in Johnny Depp’s real life at the time they were filming the 5th movie. There was a real life wicked wench making his life hell. Yes, that last movie was the weakest but it’s pretty good all things considered.
Great video. keep it up
Lovely movie. I do have one huge complaint though, one you'll see echoed by other fans who are invested in the characters of this franchise: they killed off the entire black Pearl crew (minus Mr. Gibbs) off-screen (according to Barbossa).
The likes of Pintel, Ragetti and Cotton (Though... they brought back his parrot and Marty in Dead Men Tell no Tales?) just... dying off-screen to Blackbeard was a great big shame. The levity they brought to my childhood watching the first three movies is difficult to reconcile, as a fan of the franchise, when watching the fourth entry. Even when the creators of Dead Men Tell no Tales had the chance to bring them back by conjuring up ANY reason at all, they just didn't.
But as you say, there's nothing really wrong about the movie besides this cheap attempt at raising the already high stakes. The Pearl being miniaturized and Barbossa losing his leg was enough to paint a grim image.
Finally someone sees it. Nothing better than re-affirming your biases on UA-cam
People call it the worst but this movie immediately has a leg up on DMTNT and that sparrow is an actual character with actual stake in the story other than just being a target
I can always count on this channel to defend movies I like, thank you very much
This genuinely my favourite of the series other than the first and I just don't understand why people snub this film so much
On the subject of Will and Elizabeth, I don't think anyone at the time was looking to see more of them in a sequel, their story was more or less concluded after the first film and they just became baggage for the subsequent films, I found it quite refreshing that they weren't in the fourth film
I prefer this film over Dead Men Tell No Tales because this film perfectly portrayed Jack Sparrow character
I think it is as fun as the previous three but the lack of a very engaging story (the feeling of being somewhat unnecessary) as the first three makes it feel more dragging.
I appreciate that Jack Sparrow returns to the center of the plot. Pretty good film overall.
Im so glad to have finally found saomeone deffending this ovie. Its excellent in story, characters and of course the Queen Anne's Revenge. Its not been done justice until today (or 7 months ago sorry im late lol). But thank you sir!
Finally! Someone else who thinks this is a great movie. What most people don't know about it is that it was originally a novel called "On Stranger Tides" written by an American novelist named Tim Powell. Jack, Barbosa and Gibbs were added to the story. But the rest was a rough adaptation of Powells novel. Blackbeard, voodoo zombies, Ponce de Leon, the fountain of youth, they're all in the original story. If you ever find a copy of the book, give it a read.
What helps is that, despite the change in directors, it had the same writers of the first three movies
An excellent video, I too enjoyed this movie, it's my pick for the second best one. It tells a simpler story and I like it for that, I felt At Worlds End was too bloated and busy, it was time for the series to go back to basics.
Honestly. I’ve always been such a big fan of this movie. It works in similar way to how the original movie was supposed to be standalone. This is a more disconnected side adventure and it’s still very solid movie all around imo. The set-pieces are all incredibly memorable, the music ESPECIALLY Blackbeard’s normal theme and death scene theme are fantastic, there’s interesting twists and turns, with the Spanish destroying the fountain of youth due to it being “pagan water” being a very memorable little twist on their motivations.
Finally someone who says that! To be honest On stranger tides is my second favorite PotC movie (favorite one is Dead Man´s chest)! I especially loved the chemistry between Penélope Cruz and Johnny Depp, as well as the character Blackbeard and the story itself. It´s entertaining, exciting scenes and a deep story. I like the characters of Will and Elizabeth, but a film without them doesn´t make it bad at all. I haven´t missed them one single time while watching it.
Honestly, this was always my favorite one
I'll be on that hill with ya Brother ✋️🧜♀️🛶🏴☠️
Me too
FINALLY SOMEONE AGREES!!! YOU PUT IT SO WELL TOO!!!
id love see a video of you discussing why dead man's chest is so bad!
Dead Man's Chest is the good one, Dead Men Tell No Tales is the bad one, and yes I will probably talk about both eventually.
@@RockotarthepurplehatguyEven tho I did overall like Dead Men tell no tales I would like to see a video pointing out it's many flaws
Finally, I am vindicated!!! I agree with almost all of your points, except that I still think Blackbeard is a weak villain whose name we only remember because it's supposed to be _the_ Blackbeard. If it was just Captain Smith, Angelica's pirate father whom she loves and would do anything for, we wouldn't care. My main problem with him is that Ian McShane delivers his lines like he's genuinely _bored_. He sounded like he was just there for the paycheck and to be in a blockbuster franchise. Also, it was actually Angelica who came up with the plan to trick Serena into crying.
Blackbeard: "You are confident."
Angelica: "Yes. I am a woman. So is she."
For me, because At World's End left me, emotionally uninvolved (I really don't have any impression about that movie, positive _or_ negative. There were things I liked and things I didn't like), that On Stranger Tides was a welcomed palate cleanser that made me remember why I fell in love with this franchise in the first place. It really is a *good side story*.
I loved the second movie it's my favorite one. First one second. The third one and this one I don't know but one of them is in third, and Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Men Tell No Tales I enjoyed but not as much as the rest for sure so it get 4th in my book.
If anyone says the 4th film is bad all you need to do is show them Jack Jar Jar Binks-ing his way through the 5th film, accidentally succeeding and looking stupid
A thought i had that i would like to see you discuss in a dead men tell no tales video:
While i do get your point about Jack's characterization in dead men tell no tales, i feel like what you didn't consider was that he was like that on purpose in order to showcase that he had lost his luck. Jack's luck is gone, his ship and crew are gone, so he's become a mess, but then an opportunity, the trident of Poseidon is presented and he is given the chance to, in Henry's words, "be the one who rules the sea and become whta you once were, the great (cut off by Jack sleeping)", even without the trident he manages to get back to his feet and the movie ends with him on a high note, becoming the Jack we all know and love.
Although if you have an argument that proves me wrong please do bring it up.
And also an answer to the comments that Jack supposedly doesn't have any motivation of his own for the fountain: he does. At world's end already brought up that he wants to perhaps live forever, so ofcourse Jack wants to gain immortality, but he soon realizes that it's, in his own words, "better to not know which moment may be your last", perfectly wrapping up the AWE plotline of him wanting immortality, and also choosing his loved ones over immortality.
YES. ON STRANGER TIDES WAS VERY INTERESTING ASIDE FROM ITS HATE.
Barbossa's character development was pretty sick. Blackbeard was menacing, if only he was shown more tho. Jack and Angelica were great on screen and The Queen Anne's Revenge is badass.
Personally, I think the Pirates franchise is extremely underrated. Dead Man’s Chest and At Worlds End are my favorite movies of all time
I actually like the 4th movie a lot it’s also has some cool historical references like black beard being a real pirate and Queen Anne’s revenge is also a real pirate ship which was also belong to black beard and Penélope Cruz and Johnny Depp are perfect team
This is the case of people "feeling" that something is wrong, but not necessarily being able to put that feeling into words. The arguments they give shouldn't be taken at face value, rather, it should be indicative of a deeper fundamental issue.
It's like asking a person what makes CGI look fake, and they might struggle to point out what it is exactly, and if you pressure them, they will name a thing or 2, but those things shouldn't be taken as their actual complaints. An average person can't tell you what is wrong with the CGI exactly, but saying "their arguments don't make sense and therefore they are wrong - the CGI is realistic" is arguably a worse take - it's you refusing to acknowledge the problem that is clearly there.
There is definitely something wrong with Pirates 4, but it's difficult to pinpoint. You're right to say that a lot of the elements of the move are great and are similar to the trilogy. This makes me think that the real problem is the context:
Whenever you have the same constituent elements for 2 products, but one is praised while the other one is not, it points to the problem being the context. For instance, I might crack the funniest joke ever on the funeral, and the audience might even laugh, but they will keep telling me it wasn't funny, even though it clearly was - they laughed, because I told the joke in the context that didn't warrant the joking. People come to the funeral to mourn, not to have a good time. And so even if they hear the best joke of their lives, they will complain.
I believe Pirates of the Caribbean were very novel when they came out, and attracted audience who was tired of the conventional cinema tropes. But by the time the 4th movie came out, the things that used to be novel became the tropes themselves - the audience expects Jack to be weird, to have a great banter with Barbossa, to have a few awesome escape sequences, a few ridiculous sword fights, etc. And the movie delivers on all of that, yes, but at the cost of feeling formulaic, because all those things are no longer novel.
It's the same with the villain - what makes Blackbeard a bad villain is the context, a.k.a. the fact that he is in the same franchise as Davy Jones, and so people can't help but compare the 2. It might be unfair to expect the writers to top or match one the best villains of all times, but that's what people do. If you eat a decent meal after just eating the best meal of your life, well, the decent meal will look pale by comparison.
Salazar's revenge is a grate film change my mind.
It's not the worst movie I've ever seen, I like the parts with Barbosa and his daughter, but unfortunately I was unimpressed at best by the rest. But I'm glad you enjoyed it.
@@Rockotarthepurplehatguyyou're the best type of potc fan. A lot of other potc fans are toxic and hate anyone who enjoyed the last two films but you're actually open minded and don't hate on others.
I agree. I really like On Strangers Tide as well.
And I too would argue that Dead Men Tell No Tales is the only bad Pirates movie
thanks for the video
Great review I agree
I just watched it, waiting for it to finally get crappy due to what I've heard about it but it never did. What a relief...
I haven't seen the whole video yet, but I agree. DMC is the best in the saga, OST is really underrated, and Blackbeard is a great villain.
This movie feels out of place because it's isolated and plants the seeds for future plotpoints that never came back. Had it been the start of a second trilogy, it would be more fondly remembered.
EDIT: I've now seen the whole video and I agree with every single point except one.
I just can't see this movie, as good as it is, as the conclusion to the whole saga nor a spinoff. Too many loose ends for that.
I can't see it as any more than the really good truncated start to a Pirates second trilogy that sadly never came to be.
Very nice vid. I still think the movie is mid. But you make a good case for it being underrated. There's definitely good stuff here. Barbossa and Jack had some good stuff here, like that scene where they exchange booze from Barbossa's leg. Blackbeard is a pretty good character, and his ship is pretty badass. But the other characters I really disagree. I don't really like Angelica all that much, she isn't bad, but she isn't really that great either. The Spanish are also kinda undercooked, they had an interesting concept but need more screentime. The preacher and mermaid girl are also pretty forgettable, the preacher dude less so, since him trying to save Blackbeard's soul is interesting. But then he got tangled in the mermaid romance which became much less interesting.
18:46 I disagree on your point that Angelica willingly gives up her life for Blackbeard. Blackbeard is the one who makes the choice, Angelica only goes along with it after he already takes a drink from the one he thinks has the tear. It’s something I did really like myself. It demonstrates once and for all how selfish he is, despite his claims of loving his daughter she is just a means to an end and Angelica, despite actually loving her father and believing in the potential good in him is shown how wrong she was.
The fountain was ultimately a test and the one truly irredeemable character fails and is punished for it.
Thank you! Someone actually enjoying this movie, lmao! It is definitely not my favorite, but I love it all the same. As for why people tend to dislike it, I think it all comes to the scale. On Stranger Tides is just a smaller scale story compared to the original trilogy. I mean final confrontation at the Fountain of Youth is hardly on par with the Battle of Calypso's Maelstrom and stand off against Beckett's armada, but that's fine. It is mostly a stand alone story. And a good one at that. Also, smaller or not, I love that fight at the Fountain so much. I dunno, I just love it.
P.S.: RIP to the goats Gillette and Groves, they were the OGs. :(
It's called pirate's of the caribbean. Will and Elizabeth aren't Piratey.