Testing The Burton Genesis Step On Binding In Colorado
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- Опубліковано 15 гру 2021
- In this video, we test the new Burton Genesis Step On binding in Colorado. The women's version of this binding is called the Escapade. We get the opportunity to test these bindings in all different conditions and put them to the test. Are they more responsive than the regular step ons? Are they worth the extra money? Are they as comfortable as Burton says they are? We answer all those questions.
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Dude you were the main reason I was confident enough to buy my step ons last season. So glad I did! Thanks for all the extensive, in depth reviews man!!
same. this guys is goated
Glad to hear my videos helped buddy! You’re welcome! 🤙🏽
Your comment and this review got me to switch and I’m so happy thank you 🙏
@@ProjectRaijin 🤙🏽
Great content, informative, not biased. Tested well, i am happy you do what you do, please continue.
Thank you so much 🙏🏽
Good for you bro. Glad u enjoying making the videos we all appreciate!!! Keep it up man🤟🏼👍🏼
Thank you 🙏🏽
You're a solid DUDE! Thanks for your honest and detailed review! Happy Holidays Brotha!
Thank you so much! 🙏🏽 Happy Holidays my dude!
Another great vid, loving the channel. Bought some step ons finally after your reviews, getting them in the uk is like finding gold. I wanted the swath boots but can’t get those until after my holiday so went for the photon. Can’t wait until they arrive. Thanks again
That’s awesome Jim! 🙌🏽
Finally was able to find these in stock right now. Bought a set and plan to put these on my softer board. Thank you for the videos! Been riding step on for 2 seasons (before this one) and can't see myself going back to regular bindings anymore
That’s great! I liked these Genesis bindings.
How were the Genesis bindings for you this season?
I talked to Scott today and he was very helpful. Planning on visiting the Chicago Burton this week. Great review!
Cool! Scott is awesome 🤙🏽
Just got mine the other day. Very nice feeling to just get out of the lift, stomp your foot down on the binding and just ride back down. Very cool!
Awesome!! Glad you like them! 🤙🏽
Great vid as always Jimmy, thanks for taking the time and for providing excellent informative content. Based partly on your reviews I took the plunge and ordered a set of Genesis step on with Swath boots. 👍
Congrats that’s an excellent set up! The swath boot is great. You can put it on and take it off so fast and it’s really comfortable. Genesis step on is comfortable and responsive 👍🏽
Anthony, how are you liking your Genesis step ons??
I just bought the step on x 2022 bindings and OH MY GOD, they are great!
They're a lot of fun!
Great review chief! I think you are correct that the hammock eliminates fatigue, but they are supposed to do two other things.
The first is they should offer the same response edge to edge, but allow for more smooth tip to tail movement. For me this makes them feel more cruisey and fluid, but bite when you need them to.
The second thing is more relevant to the strap versions - the soft hammock material grips the boot, so you don't have to tighten the straps down so hard and you won't get heel lift, also adding to the comfortable and cruisey feel.
All the best, Rich in Sweden.
Awesome! Thanks for sharing Rich!
love that review of yours, gettin' my first snowboard + binding + boots this year and I am still considering whether to buy the regulars or the genesis. Gave me a good idea whether they are worth it for me, so thank you very much, ride on 🤙
No problem Nicolas 🤙🏽 No matter which of the two you buy, you’re going to be happy!
What did you go with? I went traditional so I can really learn to appreciate the step on convenience tbh
I finally got 4 days on mine... I left the levers as-is on the first day and it felt way further down than I kept trying to reach for and missed. I moved the levers before the 2nd day and it was so much easier to visually find and use. I ended up using my back arm to do it.
I got to ride in some wet/heavy pow and didn't have problems. I'd clear the base before stepping in and have to clear where the lever was to eject. I can strap in standing up anyway, but the process seemed faster overall. I need to work on my in-motion unstrapping and I never tried to step in while moving.
There is a learning curve. I had problems w/ the clips not holding my pants and just resorted to lifting the pants up when stepping in. I kinda needed to butter to get my back pinkie toe clicked the first 3 days, but the 4th day it just clicked in. I had one incident where I thought I heard clicks, but when I started moving, the heel wasn't in. I told a guy w/ Step Ons and he told me to jump in place to make sure that everything is in.
The Photons boots were the only ones that came in 14 Wide. I had a rough go at adjusting them w/ my wide feet/skinny ankles. They were either too tight or too lose. I have the non-Step On Photons and they just seemed easier to get right w/ the separate top/lower adjustment. The Step-On top adjustment still seems to tighten everything.
Needing a long #2 screwdriver to adjust forward-lean kinda sucked. When I last had Burton Bindings, I was used to F4, so I started at F3 and thought they were really responsive. I liked it but wanted to see F2. The resort's tool table was missing the #2. So on the second day, I tried F2 and it was "fine", but I ended up going back to F3 for days 3 and 4.
This is awesome! Thanks for sharing your experience. With more riding time you’ll understand them so much more and they just get more fun to ride. When in doubt, just lift the heel a little bit to see if you’re in. If I lift my heel and I’m only clicked in once, I’ll either Ollie or just hit a little bump and I’m clicked in twice right away. I do agree with you about the forward lean. I wish there was an easier way with that. Luckily the resorts I’ve gone to had the correct screwdriver.
awesome, thanks for the review!
No problem!
Great video! I don’t have the genesis binding but I do have both the old version and the version of the regular step ons and I love them. They are the most responsive and comfortable binding I’ve rode. Keep up the great work. 😀👍
Next thing I would like to get my hands on are the new laced step on compatible boots.
Thank you 🙏🏽 Yes the Step Ons are so much fun!
Do you see a major difference between the older version and the newer version of the step on bindings?
@@themidwestshredder Do you see a major difference between the older version and the newer version of the step on bindings?
Yes the major difference is getting in and out of the bindings. The new ones are much easier. But other than that….no. Love them ❤
@@Matthew_Pearson so, not need to update if I do not need too.
I'm getting mine Genesis tomorrow and will ride them over weekend. I ordered regular bindings but the store had run out them and as apology they offered me Genesis at extra discount. I made a quick decision but was not 100% sure bc earlier I tested regulars for 1 day. Your video gave me confidence, that I made a right choice. P.S. I went with Ion boots, bc I'm used to ride stiff boots and I'm into carving, mine previous ones were Driver X. I tried Photons but for me they were too soft. Can't wait to see how these bindings and boots will work together, hope for even better experience with Genesis.
Man that was nice of them 👍🏽 I think you’ll like them.
Marcin, how are the genesis bindings? Are you still using them?
I watched this video when you first posted it because I was looking for some "real world"
comments and feedback on the Burton Step On system. I didn't invest in them at the time,
I couldn't justify the cost and my current boot/binding system is working well. I am just now
watching the video again trying to pick up a bit more information on the overall system. I still
can't really justify the cost but, based on what I am hearing/reading, the Step Ons have come
a long way even since last season. I was able to find a set of the "standard" '22-'23 Step Ons
at a good discount and looking to go with the Photon Wide boots. I ride the whole mountain
and that setup looks as though it will "compliment" my riding style. At 57 years young not having
to bend over to strap in will be a big plus..... not that I can't but, the body hurts a lot more than it
used to. 😉
Thanks for posting up straightforward content, I subbed ya' this time. 😁
Keep yourself safe! 😃👍❤️🏂
Randy
Hi Randy, I think you will love them. One thing to remember is that the quality of the boots are top notch. If you break down the cost of a good quality binding and a quality non-step on boot, the cost is very similar. I have a good feeling you will love these. Glad you’re giving them a shot. You never know unless you try, right? Let me know if you have any questions. Take care and thanks for the sub.
@@themidwestshredder 😎👊
Good video keep up the good work
Thank you 🙏🏽 Btw your name rules 🙌🏽
Thanks for making vid, I'm committed..
They’re great, you won’t regret it.
I’m 68 and these bindings on a Hometown Hero is going to be my last snowboard purchase. I have a 3-D Fish with 2020 Step Ons for Pow.
That’s awesome!! I have a hometown hero and I love that board so much. I love it on groomers, the park, and in POW. I took it with me to Japan this past January and it worked great all over the place.
I’ve always wanted to try a 3-D Fish!
@@themidwestshredder they are a great Board in the Powder.
Dude. Great channel. Best review of the Burton step ins One more step for you is upgrade audio. Reverb/echo is going on. Video is tops
Thank you, you are right 👍🏽
Taking out my Escapade Step Ons for the first time this season tomorrow!
So stoked!
And yes, you read that correctly, I ride the Escapades cuz I have really small feet mens shoes don’t fit me at all!
Awesome man! Let me know what you think about them.
@@themidwestshredder they were great! Really responsive.
I went for the DC Mora boots along with the Escapades and they were super comfy! So smooth, can’t wait to take them to better conditions!
@@RavenSungOfficial that’s awesome man! I’m glad to hear you liked them 👍🏽
I’ve been boarding since 92 and remember the troubles I had with the first generation step-in bindings. Really excited about these bindings, but it’s the boot comfort I’m concerned with. I LOVE the comfort of my current soft boot and hear the Photon boot (even in wide) is really stiff, which concerns me. Any feedback you have on the boot is really appreciated. BTW…been watching a ton of reviews and yours was the most helpful by far. Thanks!
Hi Danielle, very cool! The photon which is the women’s Felix, is a stiffer boot for sure. The softest step on boot is the ritual and it’s very comfortable. I wear the men’s version sometimes which is the swath. Soft, flexy, and very easy to put on and take off. The next boot that is a little stiffer and kind of a medium flex is the limelight. Ritual has two boa dials for lower and upper boot adjustments. It has the articulated cuff which allows it to flex. The limelight is very simplified and has one boa dial. The Felix soft is a little stiff but has a little more flex at the ankles than the regular Felix. If you’re able to try them out at a store, that would be best. Boot fitment is super important with the Step Ons.
Great review. I got the genesis step on with the photon boot. Super comfortable and responsive. Best of both worlds. I did the mod you recommended in another video to change the release to the inside and at 6’3” it saves my back.
Only question. I dialed the forward lean to none and it’s easier to get in. I didn’t see any loss of heel side performance. So could we take the high back off completely ?
Your mod proves we really only need the heel cup with the clicker part. I feel like in these my toe connection engages way before the high back on a heel side turn.
It is possible to remove the highback for sure. Last season I rode most of the season without the highback. The highback portion does act like a spacer where the screws go in, so you would have to fill that space with washers.
I’m looking into getting the step on but I’m stuck on ether getting the x or Genesis, I love jumping, carving, tricks, etc. and at the same time I love just cruising around
I don’t think you can go wrong either of those. Just remember that the X model is the stiffest.
Finally ordered the black/white Genesis Step on and it is arriving this week, right before my Colorado trip next week. So I guess I am in the same situation as you were lol. As always love your content, I also live in Chicago so maybe we can shred together sometimes?
Nice 👍🏽 those are awesome bindings. Nice that they’ll get to you before CO. I’m always making last second decisions to where I want to ride but if you see me out, say what’s up and we’ll ride 🤙🏽
Damn Jimmy, Burton should sponsor you or pay you for these great comparison reviews!
That would be great but I would just be happy if they let me borrow gear to try out.
@@themidwestshredder Keep doing what you're doing bud! Your vids provide valuable consumer advice for people about to make a big purchase!
I’m excited to cop the 2.0v. Since they claim they resolve the hotspot/pressure spots on the front of the boots. I have the 1st gen and I get those issues from time to time. I’ll let you know if they really did fix it when I get one. Great bidding regardless and are happy with my step ons..Thanks for the vids!
Awesome Emmanuel 👍🏽 Yeah let me know if the hotspot is gone. Since I never had this problem, I’m not sure if they fixed this problem some people had.
The ppl need that update 👀🔥
Diggin that blue AK jacket
Thank you boss 🙏🏽
Thanks for the informative video! Is there a chance the heel cleat will get stuck behind the hammock when stepping on? And does the hammock influence the ease of stepping on when compared to the regular model?
Hi Lennard, since the hammock and the heel cleat are plastic, they both slide away from each other. I never experienced the cleat getting stuck on the hammock. I would say they’re both the same stepping on.
I finally got mine!
Nice 👍🏽 You’re going to like them. Enjoy!
u should review CLEW - most innovative step-in binding on the planet. If u like Stepon u will love Step-in :)
Hi Lukas, I would love to review the CLEW bindings and did reach out to them. Unfortunately, they don’t want to work something out or offer a discount code. It would be great to do this review in an unbiased setting. If the binding is good, this video would only help their company.
Thank you for posting this video dude I love it!! Im going to get the step ons either way but Im at a rock in a hard place on what version to choose. It's between the reflex x or genesis reflex. Im leaning towards the genesis. I had a question for you when say responsive what do you mean? Is it easier to whip turns on your toe and heel edge as well as stop and start on a dime when using the Genesis reflex or reflex x? What binding do you think will be better when doing these two things?
Hi, I’m talking responsiveness getting on a heel or toe edge carving or stopping. The step on x are the stiffest and most responsive. The regular step on and even the Genesis step on are also really responsive if you have a stiffer boot like photon or the ion. It really comes down to how stiff of a set up you want. Not everyone is looking for the stiffest most responsive set up. It’s all preference.
@@themidwestshredder Do you know if there is a difference between the genesis and the re:flex genesis? Or is this naming just new and the binding stayed the same?
@@jnfyeah that is the same binding. The Genesis step on is only made in reflex. Reflex is the style in which the binding mounts to the board. Burton also makes bindings that are called EST. That binding base can only be used with channel boards like the ones Burton makes. You cannot use it on other brand boards that do not have a channel system. The reflex binding base can be mounted on any snowboard brand. That’s why I prefer it. The non step on (strap) Genesis binding is made in EST and reflex. The step on Genesis is only reflex at this time. Hope that makes sense.
@@themidwestshredder That makes perfect sense and I appreciate your answer! Because on the Burton site I find the step-on binding only under re:flex, and on other websites only without the re:flex. Hence the confusion :)!
Hey Jimmy, great review man, one question though is the step on genesis better for buttering than the other two step on models?
I would say the genesis and the regular step on would be very similar. The X is stiffer so that one might be a little harder to butter with. Other factors like the stiffness of the board and the boots will obviously come into play as well.
Thanks for the review! Managed to buy a pair in white on Black Friday from the Burton site. Pairing with a new left over custom v from last year and I'm between the Swath and the Photon boots...any thoughts? I ride all mountain with a focus on butters.
If you're buttering buy the softer boots. I'm on day 2 of my photons and they are stiff. Also make sure to buy true to size, I think I might need a half size smaller. I might just add thicker insoles.
I own both (photon and swath) boots and I prefer the swath or the rulers over the photons for what I do. The swaths are super comfortable and they’re softer flex. I’m able to butter and they work for me in the park. They’re also super easy to put on and take off. The photons are great boots if you like something super stiff and carving is your main thing. In this video I was riding the swath. The rulers I would say are kind of in between the swath and the photon. The ruler is super comfortable as well and has one BOA.
I got the white Genesis binding, it looks great and feels good. However my mesh hammock broke off on the first day, it just disappeared. I assumed it came off when I unlatched... The Mesh is held on by a single flimsy rivet and the boot latch can catch and break it off without you knowing. The biggest problem when I contacted burton is that they don’t hold white spare parts so they were going to replace the whole Hi-back with a black one so I will have mis-match blinding. Later I was told they didn’t even have a spare Gensis Hi-back so they can’t help me. They offered a refund but I was on the mountain and no local shop sells the genesis so I was stuck with a broken binding for the rest of the trip. Without the mesh, the boot latch gets caught in the hi-back hole so you can’t easily step into the binding. This really wrecked my holiday and was not impressed with how the burton warranty department handle this…. One would expect more from such an expensive binding…
Hey man, really appreciate your videos on the step ons. I just bought the genesis based on your videos. I still haven’t got boots yet but from what I saw on your comparison vid, as a beginner rider, I think the swath might be the best as they aren’t too stiff and also allow that dual boa control. Is this a good choice? My main question however is, I know the 2021 or 2020 model boots fit on the 2022 bindings, but do they also work to not make the chatter noise everyone complained about on the 2021 and before models. Also, is the difference with the 2022 and 2021 boots only the colour design ? Cheers
Hi Christopher, the clicking noise does go away still with the old boots and newer 2022 bindings. The clicking came from the toe hook design on the older bindings. The Swath would definitely be a good choice for you. Super comfortable, not stiff, and super easy to take on and off.
Also, the boots are different in color but boots like the photon changed a little in 2022. Not much but the sole has a slight different design but honestly they all work fine.
I really like your content. I wonder if you can get the Genesis Hibacks and put them on older Step Ons?
I don’t think Burton will sell just the upper highback portion with hammock.
@@themidwestshredder You inspired me to flip the release lever on my Step Ons so I am ready to do surgery.
The XL ones only come in normal step-ons or I might have gotten the Genesis for the hammock.
I didn’t know that, hopefully they make them for next season in XL 🤙🏽
Hey Jimmy, after watching you reviews on these I went and bough the Genesis and Photon boots. Originally I had a UK 10.5 and the boot was sweet in the binding, however the boot was too big and I got this swapped for a UK10. Since getting the smaller boot (still with the correct L size binding) I am getting a heel clicking and a very small amount of play on the heel catch. This never happened with the UK 10.5 boot.
Has this happened to you at all? I've seen a number of videos of people complaining about this. Speaking to my local Burton dealer they aren't at all helpful.
I believe that the movement some people have (some more than others) is caused by the boot itself. With me, it doesn’t affect my riding one bit, and I don’t get a clicking. Let me see if I can find a fix for this.
im thinkin for years to get step ons but i´m one of those "classic is classic" guys, since its "new" tech on market was bit scared to buy the first gen, then after all the reviews i saw on YT and problems with clicking noise and that front lift up play , decided not to buy, but this version looks more promising. Change my mind mate. On a scale 1 to 10 , how much better is this version then the previous one ? Great vid btw
Classic is classic and we all know what they feel like already. Pull the trigger and try something new. Don’t keep wondering what these are like, just try them. I own good quality strap bindings myself. I wouldn’t be riding them and making videos for people if they sucked. I love snowboarding and love turning lap after lap. Believe me, getting in and out fast is awesome and a lot of fun. These are also light and responsive. The version 2s are great and eliminate the clicking and the extra play in the front that you mentioned. People who are not trying them or giving them a chance are missing out, trust me. When you first try them, use them for multiple days before you judge them. They get better and better the more you ride them. If you don’t like them, throw them on eBay and they will sell.
How is the forward lean (between none and f2/f4 (you mentioned in video your adjustment) on this binding working?
It works well. I adjusted the screws (moved them in) to F3 on the highback and moved the footpad up half a size. It feels great doing heelside carves and I like it because it makes me bend my knees more 👍🏽
Hi Jimmy. I’ve been ridding the regular Step On (wide photon version) for three years now, and I’ve ridden normal straps forever. The only “issue” with my Step On is that I can only forward lean to F3, instead of “my” normal F6 on the regular strap. My question is: Can you forward lean the Genesis beyond F3 (and does it come in a wide version). Thanks dude.
Hi Antonio, the Genesis is the same as the regular step on binding. It only goes to F3. The Genesis goes from a S to L, they don’t offer a XL right now. The wide boots should fit into any of these bindings.
Hey man, i am watching all your videos and you are doing great job. I have one question, did you tryed this genesis on warpig?
Hi, no I never tried them on the warpig, but they will work just fine on it 🤙🏽
@@themidwestshredder i hope so because normal step on warpig was little bit soft for me but myb that was bcs soft boots(burton ruller). This time i got photon so we will see soon.
@@nenadnikolic9212 it was because of the boots. The photons will make everything much stiffer and responsive.
Do you normally ride with the forward lean at F3? Curious if you would've found the binding to be as responsive as your regular Step-Ons at the same forward lean.
That’s a good point. I normally don’t run any forward lean but I did ride these Genesis bindings without forward lean the very first day out on them and they felt similar to the regular step ons. Only difference was the cushion from the highback.
@midwestshredder , Jimmy are the genesis the new version of step on bindings?(no clicking). or there is a new version of the base step on binding!(no clicking). if so how would i know if im getting the new version?
thank you for your content. i wish you more subscribers because you are able to answer most, if not all questions with step ons. we appreciate it a lot
Hi Jefferson, the Genesis come with the updated version 2 toe hooks. The new regular (base) step on binding does too. The older version has open toe hooks at the front of the binding. If you watch the video I made that says how to replace damaged toe hooks, you will see the difference there.
@@themidwestshredder thank you for taking the time. i just found out in your other video just now(version 1 vs 2). you are appreciated sir! thaank youu! now if only they have stocks haha(maybe a good idea for a video on where to find them:) )
Thanks for the video! Do you think the step on genesis would pair well with q Korua dart (stiff board) or I should get the normal step on?
Man that’s a nice set up. Both of them are similar stiffness. You can’t go wrong with either one. If you have the money, get the genesis.
@@themidwestshredder Thanks for your anwser!
I’m thinking about getting the photon boot but debating to get step on or not as I need new bindings anyway. What would you recommend? I mainly do carving and groomers here in the Illinois area
Hi, just depends how you like your set up. The photon is awesome for groomers and carving. It’s stiff and puts the board on an edge instantly. If you like a more medium flex, try the ruler or the swath. Never hurts to try something new. They work I can tell you that. If you never try, you never know. Let me know if you have any other questions.
I remember hearing a rep say the first Step On was designed to have some play in the front to mimic the feel of a strap binding, but then everyone complained about the sound. I wonder if getting rid of the play in the front means it no longer feels the same as a traditional strap binding?
I think the idea was good but it wasn’t necessary. The binding is still nice and responsive with the play but I think most people would rather not have the play. Some people would message me asking if this was normal. Now that it’s gone with the new toe hooks, the binding is better. It’s more responsive and feels great.
@@themidwestshredder Have you ever noticed play in the heel as demonstrated in this video? Apparently it's normal as well and I wasn't sure if you were referring to this above. ua-cam.com/video/1bpoPPTeLnA/v-deo.html
@@snowboarddoc6382 hi, the play in the front that the original post is referring to is different than what the video you posted is showing. What is happening in the video is normal though. The heelback portion of the highback is supposed to move together with the boot a little. In the video, one moves a little more than the other, but it won’t affect the performance. If you were fully locked in without movement at the lower portion of the highback, it would be hard to get on your toe edge. This movement is similar to how an ankle strap stretches as you get on your toes. You don’t think it’s stretching, but it is.
Does anyone know if it would be possible to combine the high back of the genesis with the bottom of the x?
That should work no problem. The molds are the same, but the materials are different.
Hey man question for anyone, I had to get the Photon because I needed a wide boot so that's what I went with and I also ride a Capita Mercury what binding would you suggest? I'm guessing the Genesis is softer or maybe about the same stiffness then the regular step on binging and the step on X is the stiffest but with the step on system already being highly reactive could I get buy with the Genesis or the regular step on binging while having the Photon boot and a stiffer board like I ride the Capita Mercury? Thanks in advance.
If you can afford the Genesis and they’re available, go with those. The hammock on the highback is comfortable in different conditions and it’s still responsive like the regular step on. Everything I mentioned in this video is true. I still want a pair of those. If you want extreme stiffness and response then go with the X.
Hey Bman, I have the Genesis/Photon combo with the 2021 Capita Mercury - I think they are a great combo.
not sure you ever experienced the pressure points on the sides of your feet at the toe cleets (i have wide feet)..can you comment on that? does it feel the same as the old bindings?
Unfortunately, I never experienced that pressure point with the old bindings so I can’t really answer this question. Sorry man.
@@themidwestshredder no problem...thanks for responding. you are lucky you didn't experience the pressure points. enjoy the step ons!
A friend of mine suggested not getting these because they accumulate snow on the foot pads. Did you experience that at all and was it a problem?
Hi, you have to treat the Step On binding just like your strap binding in this situation. It’s no different. If snow is on the foot pad, brush it off and then step on. I don’t know people who love to strap into a traditional binding with snow on the footpad. That doesn’t feel the best. Don’t let that stop you from getting a set of these. They work excellent. In this video, there’s a clip of me brushing away powder. That’s how any binding should be treated. Let me know if you have any other questions.
Can you answer me please😢 in your personal opinion wich boots you prefer between ruler or swath? Pleasee
Hi, sorry I haven’t been on UA-cam for a little while. Both of those boots are good. If I had to choose out of those two, I would pick the swath. My favorite boot now is the photon soft though. It’s stiffer than both of these and just an all around great boot.
New to riding and buying a board should i go with camber or flying v??
Hi Kevin, if you’re new to riding, the Flying V would be a friendlier board to learn on. It’s less catchy than a camber board. The truth is that you can learn on anything, but your chances of catching an edge are less on a rocker, flat board, or a hybrid like a Flying V.
Have you noticed lots of wear and tear on the heel latch where the cleat clicks in to. Mine are starting to shave off quite a bit. Burton directed me to their replacement parts section of website but I only saw the cleats for sale, not the actual latch that goes on the binding. Kinda sucks.
Hi, other than the paint coming off, I don’t have any significant wear and tear on any of my locking mechanisms. Reach out to them again and let them know that yours has a lot of wear and you’re concerned. They might have you send them pictures. I can tell you right now that the locking mechanism won’t be easy to replace. They might have to send you the lower portion of the highback already assembled with the mechanism. There’s a rivet that goes in through the mechanism and the stud holding it in place. Good luck, let me know what happens.
@@themidwestshredder thanks for the reply, yeah that sucks since the binding will be with them for a month at least. I'll just live with if until end of season and then try warranty
I want go to step on for the first time.I am in doubt between burton x and burton genesis,what do you think?Bye from Italy
For me personally, I would get the genesis. The regular step ons and the genesis are already really responsive. The X would be too much.
WR!❤❤
Thanks for this helpful review.
@@steffenvollert114 no problem! WR 🤙🏽
What about the Heel Lift Issue?
I want to buy another pair for my other Board but I heard that there’s a problem with Heel Lift.
Sorry I’m going through comments and not sure how I missed this one. I will be making a video about this heel lift this week.
@@themidwestshredder Ah, I should have scrolled down before posting! Has this video been made yet dude?
@@stewynew not yet. Sorry Stuart I’m running behind on content. Been working overtime at my full-time job.
Would you say these bindings are the best in the game? They seem like the most comfortable.
They're comfortable for sure. I use the regular step ons and they work great too.
Yo nice Video , thx for the testing...is there any chance u know the name of the song at 01:19 ? @The Midwest Shredder
Hi, I don’t remember the name of the song but it was made by an artist named G-wiz. Sorry for the late reply.
He is on sound cloud.
Is the high back clicking when you engage them after the toe side normal? Can you even hear it when riding? Just got them 👍🏻
That’s cool, you will like them. The two clicks when you engage the boot into the back of the binding is normal. Then you click the boot into both toe cleats in the front of the binding. You won’t hear clicking when you ride them. The older step on bindings would click near the front toe cleats here and there. There were easy solutions to get rid of that clicking. The new bindings don’t do that with the newer design. Not sure if I answered your question. If not, let me know. Thanks.
@@themidwestshredder I was wondering about once you are clicked in fully, I was moving forward and backward in my room simulating riding. And you can hear the high back hit. Probably normal I’m assuming? Once I get out there I hopefully won’t hear it. I put the forward lean all the way and it’s not as noticeable.
@@rb_gets_buckets7061 you won’t hear any of that when you’re riding 👍🏽
@@themidwestshredder update* went boarding today. Step ons are amazing. 10/10 recommend. But at times it was tricky to get that second heel click. I don’t know if you had that issue. Maybe because my forward lean is maxed out or possibly snow. I’ll have to see for sure.
@@rb_gets_buckets7061 it’s most likely because of the forward lean. They say if you move the footpad up a size, that could help.
I was able to find regular but couldn't find the Genesis I wanted. Is there a stiffness difference between regular and genesis?
No they’re about the same in my opinion.
@@themidwestshredder thanks, I scored one for $230 with coupon on evo.
@@ruturaj47 real good deal 👍🏽
How’s the ride on the show stopper?
I have to ride it more but so far I love it. It was super easy to maneuver and make turns. Unfortunately Colorado didn’t have a lot of coverage otherwise I would’ve taken it between trees. I think it would be amazing in between trees. We had a little POW day in the morning one day and it was nice and floaty for sure. I’ll be riding it a lot more 🤙🏽
Ive heard rumors the hammock part can be fragile. (And a point of frustration.) Any truth to that?
I haven’t experienced this myself, but I did see a guy in the lift line at steamboat one time with this problem. I think that if you constantly miss getting into the binding, the rear cleat of the boot hits the hammock and eventually can damage it.
Couple weeks ago I broke my toe hooks and step ons 2022 using it normally. Did it happen to you or do you know someone in same situation as me?
My toe hook broke first time stepping in at the chair lift 2 days ago on the new 2.0
No I’ve never broken a toe hook on my old ones or my new ones. Can you guys send me pics to my Instagram? I’m so curious to see what’s going on. My IG is the same name that I have here. Get in touch with Burton right away though. They should be able to take care of you guys.
Also what is the process you guys are using to step on?
Took them back to the store I bought them from and they just gave me new pair instantly. They said they would deal with warranty issue through Burton. Now I bring my old boots and cartels just incase
I didn't take a picture of it. It was a clean straight line break at the bottom of the toe hook base.
Dude try the Clew bindings , will be great if you can make review ....
It would be cool to ride them and compare them to the Step Ons, but unfortunately with the holidays coming up I don’t have the funds to buy a set.
Btw I did reach out to Clew since multiple people have been asking me to review this binding, but they are not interested in letting me try a set. I would’ve returned them. It’s understandable I guess, but not even a small discount code. At $500 it’s a little too much for me to spend right now with the holidays. Would’ve been cool to do an unbiased review. It’s not out of the question yet, but not anytime soon I don’t think.
Merci
What boots do you have?
I use the ruler and the swath. Those are the most comfortable for me. I’m this video, I used the swath boots. Comfortable and easy to get in and out of.
@@themidwestshredder how would you compare the swaths to the photons. I just got 2 days in and I'm finding the photons to be quite stiff. Do they get better? My other boots are burton imperials for comparison.
@@MG-sg2ci the swaths have a way softer flex and are really confortable. I like them for butters and park riding. Super easy to put on and take off. You can still carve well with them. The photon was just a little too stiff for me. I just felt like a couldn’t move the way I wanted to. My friend has them as well and he loves them. His main thing is carving. Everyone is different. I also like the ruler boot. I didn’t ride the photon enough to break it in I don’t think. I still plan on using them in the future though.
@@themidwestshredder Thank you for the reply!!
X or genesis?
I’ve only tried the Genesis and I liked them a lot!
@@themidwestshredder is it also good on high speed?
@@Angelo-dp1zt yes they are 👍🏽
Real boarders don't ride step ons!!!!!! Facts!!!!!!!
Tell that to guys like Mark Fawcett and Dave Downing. I doubt you’ll ever ride on their level. Now that’s Facts!!!
@@themidwestshredder got mad respect for those guys but that's 2 riders that are older now. It's only for convenience!! No that's facts. Nothing beats a strap binding!!!!!
@@tippss3332 they’re older but they still rip. You and I will never ride on their level. I still ride a strap binding too and it is great. For you to say real boarders ride straps only is a joke. Snowboarding is for everyone.
@@themidwestshredder not really!!!!
@@tippss3332 😆 snowboarding is supposed to be fun man. I’m sure you’re a cool dude man, no need to worry about other people’s gear.