Review: Eureka Atom Coffee Grinder
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- Опубліковано 23 сер 2024
- In-depth review of the Eureka Atom coffee grinder. Marc from Whole Latte Love puts the extra quiet Atom grinder through its paces including tests of dosing weight consistency and grinding speed. Go "under the hood" to see what makes the Atom special. Learn about programming, things you'll like and things to be aware of.
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The best reviews on the internet. Many thanks.
Hi HSBT, Thanks for the comment. I do my best to be thorough with the reviews while keeping the running time reasonable!
I really like how you guys show the maintenance aspect of a grinder. Now I always look for your reviews, because you guys seem to be the only ones who show this kind of stuff.
Hi Anson, Thanks for the comment! Yes we do like getting inside!
Marc
Hi Mark. Great video.
I’m torn between the Mignon Specialita and the Atom 60. Some say the Specialita is better for home use. Which do you recommend for home use?
Cheers.
Hi Mark. What about their "Blow Up" system that is supposed to prevent retention? Does it require separate special hopper? And does it only work for single dosing?
It works only in theory. Completely impractical. You still get a huge retention when single dosing (up to 8 grams) and because the hopper is closed from the top, it also sucks the ground coffee up when refilling with air.
Great review! Will you review the new Eureka Mignon Specialita?
Hi, Thanks for the comment and request. Unfortunately I don't have the Specialita model variant of the Mignon grinder :( I have these: www.wholelattelove.com/eureka-mignon-espresso-grinder-in-chrome
Good review. You have the Eureka Mignon matched in some package deals. How about a review of it vs the Vario?
Will you be getting it? I’m also curious about the Specialita.
Hands down best reviews
Hi Cip, Thanks for the comment!
I like the cadence on this one. Sometimes too many unnecessary pauses when talking or reading the script? But this one seems perfect!
Nit picking, but hands down best video reviews online, so after watching them all, lol, it’s a bit much sometimes. But this style is 👍🏼👍🏼
Commenting on an older video. Just ordered Oro single dose in black. Hopefully ships soon!
Cheers
Hi Sky, Thanks for the critique. Enjoy your new grinder!
Marc
@@Wholelattelovepage such an awesome voice and the best reviews. 🙏🏻
Good review as always. You have the Erika Mignon matched in a few packages. How about a review of the Mignon with the Vario?
Hi Richard, Thanks for the comment and request. I'll see if I can squeeze in a compare of the Mignon vs. Vario. In the meantime, if you have specific questions on either I'd be happy to answer them here.
Hey Mike, I saw your review I bought it and I love it.
Hey jf, That's awesome Thanks for the feedback on your purchase.
Marc
Could you do a review on the Rocket Fausto? I believe it shares many parts with Eureka and is a great alternative for those in the atom market looking for something with that “classic” Italian look.
Hi Kyle, I've touched on the Fausto in a couple of other videos but do need to do a full review! FYI the Fausto is made for Rocket by Eureka. Grind adjustment mechanism is similar. The Fausto uses a funnel and timing control are on a plate atop the funnel. Other than that and aesthetics very similar to the Atom.
Marc
I'm torn between the atom or mignon xl
Great review, thanks, just one question though, how much coffee can i grind a day using this machine? i'm looking for something that can grind 5 KG or more a day (for selling ground coffee), but i'm on a budget, so something USD 1000 or less would be great, do you have any recommendation? Thanks :)
Excellent review - well done. Question: should the machine be running when adjusting grind size? That seems to be a requirement on all other grinders with this feature.
Hi U, Thanks for the comment and question. Grinder manufacturers always say to have the grinder running when making grind size changes. Truth is when adjusting grind coarser one does not have to have the grinder running. When adjusting finer without the grinder running partially ground beans can be compressed enough between the burrs to cause the motor not to run. if left on with out the motor spinning it could overheat. In my practical experience one can usually get away with a small adjustment to a finer setting without the motor running.
Marc
@@Wholelattelovepage Thanks Marc for taking the time from your rather busy schedule to explain the matter fully; I appreciate this.
Really enjoy the reviews. Currently trying to decide on the Olympus 75E or the Atom Speciality 75. Can you guys do a video comparing the 2? Pros and cons? Is the Olympus that much louder? is the construction worse on the atom? is the retention the same on both? Thanks!
Hi H, Thanks for the comment and question. I'll see if I can't work in a comparison video of the 2. My video cue is rather long at the moment so it might be awhile. In the meantime... Both produce essentially the same grind quality from their 800 watt motors driving 75mm burrs. The Olympus has a more coffee shop build quality. It's heavier and and has little touches like a huge turning power switch compared to a rocker switch on the Atom. If anything, the Olympus has a more mellow tone with the larger housing. Beyond that it comes down to aesthetics - preference for the interface layout. Here's a link to a side by side spec comparison: www.wholelattelove.com/pages/compare?products=MTU0NTk5ODkyNTg4Myw0MjUzMDAxNTgwNTk4 Olympus currently a great deal at just $30 more than the Atom.
Marc
What makes the Ceado EP5 worth the extra cost over the Eureka Mignon?
Hi Mr. Mark i am still waiting for a comparison between Eurika Zenith and Ceado E37s . I have to order one for my restaurant + cafe .
Hi sunny, Sorry for the delay. I'm holding off on videos for the Zenith until we receive short hoppers. Zeniths we have now came with standard (huge) commercial hoppers.
Another great review
Ardy Hagen Thanks!
Marc
Noticeable difference in flavour between atom (60mm) and the atom 65?
I usually brew lighter roasted modern espresso beans
Hi Jason, Thanks for the question. Here's a link to a side by side spec comparison of the Atom, Atom 65 and Atom 75, Larger burrs generally produce a more consistent grind particle size and they grind faster: www.wholelattelove.com/pages/compare?products=NDIxNjQyMTc0NDY5NCwxNTQ1OTk5NDUwMTcxLDQyNTMwMDE1ODA1OTg
In the specs take note of the watt ratings of each - it increases with burr size. Taste is subjective so hard to say with authority that it's a noticeable difference with larger burrs. If you do a lot of lighter roast specialty grade beans you probably already know they are harder/denser than darker roasts and occasionally present a challenge to lower powered grinders. Hope that helps!
Marc
The Atom or Rocket Fausto? Which would you choose? I know both are made by Eureka. I also know the Rocket has bigger burrs, bigger motor and a bigger price
Hi John, Thanks for the question. I believe the Fausto is based off the Eureka Zenith: www.wholelattelove.com/collections/eureka/products/eureka-zenith-65-e-hs-grinder-in-chrome
Fausto and Zenith specs and price are nearly identical. Currently the Fausto is $50 less. But if it's Atom or Fausto I'd go Fausto for the bigger burrs.
Marc
How is the Atom for durability and repairs ?
Hi Randy, Thanks for the question. Very reliable and durable IMO - no different than others in this price range.
Marc
Great stuff. what is the most important improvement from this compared to the specialita?
Hi ORB, See below for a link to a spec comparison between Specialita and the Atom. In short, Atom has 60mm burrs vs. 55mm in Specialita. Atom has much more powerful motor 450w vs 260w. Other: Larger bean hopper, buttons on Atom with touchscreen on Specialita. www.wholelattelove.com/pages/compare?products=MjE0ODI4NDQ2NTIwNiwxNTQ1OTk5NDUwMTcx
Marc
@@Wholelattelovepage Thanks for the quick reply!
Can I ask you an off topic question? We just got married and I have the choice (via a befriended service shop) between the alex duetto III (used) for 1400 euros and a new rocket mozzafiato R PID (heat exchanger) for 1900 euros. Which would you advise me? greetings from Amsterdam!
Hmm, this, the Fausto or the Quamar m80e which is significantly cheaper? Hard choice
Hi RR, A little secret... Eureka makes the Fausto as well. Long term (and they will go for decades) the Atom and Fausto are much better build quality and worth the investment IMO.
Marc
My grinder's manual button is shorted. Do you have another idea?
Sometimes when pressing the manual button it jerks.
Marc, I’m always worried that equipment using those soft foil push buttons (like on the atom control display) will eventually crack and not function, how do they hold up and are these replaceable.
Hi s, I know what you are talking about! I have a 2 on the fridge that have come off exposing the actual button behind them. On the Atom they feel robust. I wouldn't think they could fall apart. If they did the whole front panels can be replaced but I'd be surprised if that would be needed unless subject to abuse.
Marc
That is a fair bit of money for a grinder for the home. Very nice mind you.
thanks for the reviews, but living in the UK it would not be practical to order from your store.
Hi z, Thanks for the comment and you are welcome. The Atom is not a cheap grinder but it does compare well price wise to similar grinders from other manufacturers.
You have likely got something by now, but you can't go far wrong with a Rancilio. It is noisier for sure, but at 2/3rd less the price of this machine.
@@Django44 I decided to replace the coffee machine as well, so I went for a Sage barrister express, or Brevile in the U.S. it has a built-in grinder, My old Gaggia classic developed a fault, so I thought i may as well kill two birds with one stone. Thanks for the reply.
Hi Marc, when you have the review for the Eureka Atom 65? Thanks
Hi Leonardo, I Don't have an Atom 65 in house at the moment. When I do I will do a review. In the meantime, operationally it's very similar to this Atom but with bigger burrs, ~10% more power in motor and higher price.
Marc
Have you guys found any solution for the "popcorning" effect? I'm looking for a quiet grinder and having to keep the bean hopper half full all the time seems quite annoying. Or maybe you have suggestions for similar grinders? Thank you.
Hi Filipe, Thanks for the question. With the auger in the Atom there's no solution to popcorning. It's a setup which doesn't lend itself to single dosing. Have a look at the Ceado E6P: www.wholelattelove.com/ceado-e6p-electronic-dosing-grinder-v2 It uses a 64mm flat burr set compared to the 60mm in the Atom. It has 2 timed grinding presets but they are not as easy to adjust as the Atom's. But maybe that's not a concern as it sounds like you may be into single dosing. Might also have a look at Baratza Sette 270. Not the same build quality as the Eureka or Ceado grinders but very good and about half the price. Sette grinders have very low retention produce beautiful fluffy well distributed grinds and work well if single dosing: www.wholelattelove.com/grinders/burr?product_brand=121
You can see my Baratza Sette 30/270/270Wi review here: ua-cam.com/video/FzhtwrmB-60/v-deo.html
Marc
I use the atom grinder ,but I have difficulties in changing the course to fine .
Hi Kelly, Thanks for the question. Are you running the grinder when adjusting to a finer setting? Beans left between the burrs can/will make adjusting finer near impossible. Best practice is to have the grinder running when adjusting to a finer setting.
Marc
Whats your comment for the atom and the fausto? (both clean and silent?, speed?, controls?)
Hi PR, Sorry I missed your question last week. Here's a link to a side by side spec comparison. They are very similar under the hood: www.wholelattelove.com/pages/compare?products=MTU0NjAwNjAzNjUzOSw0MjE2NDEzNTg1NDYy
Marc
thx, i ordered the atom, with a bz16de !!
Am planning to upgrade from my old mignon, which is a better upgrade, this atom or the zenith 65e?
Hi, Ahmed, Thanks for the question. Given the choice I'd go with the Zenith. It has larger burrs and a more powerful motor.
I got one but the description on the box works at 50 Hz, is there a problem with that if it runs at a frequency of 60 Hz
Best regards
Hi 23, Hmm... I think the bigger question is the voltage and/or phase. Depends where in the world you are but you could be running 2 phase or single phase power. No guarantees, but usually not a going to cause damage if you plug something meant for higher voltage say 220 into a 110 circuit which is usually 60hz. May not operate properly but probably will not hurt anything. Going the other way can be an issue. In your shoes, I would check compatibility with a local electrician.
Marc
@@Wholelattelovepage Thank you for your reply
I appreciate that.
I have no problem with voltage Just frequency , please could you confirm that
Best regards
Hi Marc, is it possible to remove the impeller to reduce the pop corn effect when single dosing?
Hi JLTS, It may be possible - honestly have not tried. I believe doing so will result in less consistency in timed dosing weights as the impeller assists in providing consistent flow of beans to the burrs.
Marc
@@Wholelattelovepage I managed to remove the impeller and it significantly reduces pop corning and improves single dosing!
@@Sonicksg I did the same with mine. Unless all the beans in the hopper are going to be ground that day, single-dosing is my preference. The beans degrade quickly otherwise and become stale - just like most food exposed to air.
They kinda look like digital parking meters.
What grinders would you say have little or no retention ?
Hi Mary, I have a video comparing a bunch of popular espresso grinders which have very low retention: ua-cam.com/video/_5ZnraVs_7M/v-deo.html Most Baratza grinders have low retention.
Marc
Dear Sir, Could I use 65mm burr in atom grinder(original burr is 60mm)?
Hi CCE, Thanks for the question. Not something I've tried but I'd recommend against it. Grinding chamber may not fit the larger burr and the chamber is designed to work with the original burr.
Marc
@@Wholelattelovepage Dear Marc,Thank you for your prompt reply.
Can we see some extraction shots pls
How does this compare to the Ceado E5/6P?
Hi G, Thanks for the question. Programming timed dosing is easier on the Atom as it displays the time. E5p is manual only and with the E6P grind time is adjusted in .1 second increments with no display of grind time. I have a slight preference for the grind size adjustment on the Ceado grinders. Atom has a grinds bin for brew methods other than espresso. Hope that helps. Let me know if you have more questions!
Marc
Whole Latte Love Thanks for the response! Great video! What about the grinding performance on espresso and brew? What kind of improvements do you get from the 75mm version? Many thanks.
You are welcome and thank you for the kind comment. 75mm burrs produce a slightly better grind and grind faster. For average users grind quality increase with larger burrs may be hard to detect in finished espresso. As for grinding for espresso vs. brew... This type of grinder is IMO more oriented to espresso. It's not the grinder I would choose if only grinding for brew. Frankly, it's overkill as fine grind size adjustment for brew is not critical. Hope that helps. Let me know if you have more questions!
Marc
This coffee grinder is more quiet than my fart.
Jojo Pagay lol! Well, unless you are incredibly gassy I guess that’s an endorsement of the silent but deadly Atom!!!